Keep Your Pants On

i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?

So “Moore” “Goode” and “Dick” are real?! I always thought that was just a Photoshop job due to the mentioned mis-match typography…

In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”

[quote comment=”25858″]Moore. Goode. Dick.

Gotta love the person who saw them standing there and knew he had to take the picture.

Also gotta love that Nutt had to choose from among Dick and Johnson to be the QB of the Hogs.

Good god, I sound like Tobias Funke.[/quote]

I think you just Blue your cover. You’ve made huge mistake.

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[quote comment=”25867″][quote comment=”25859″]In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”[/quote]
I say puffy eyelids. Or eye”unders”??[/quote]

That’s what I thought at first too, but they are darker than anyone elses eyes on the team and much more square.

[quote comment=”25854″]i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?[/quote]

I don’t have the NFL Network either, and didn’t catch the highlights so I went and checked out the pictures at ESPN.com.

Check out link compared to link. Definitley something screwy going on there. Looks like Ocho Cinco’s helmet has some sort of plate on the side covering up parts of the stripes.

[quote comment=”25870″]I know we all saw Chad’s orange chinstrap last night.[/quote]

Ah ha, so it’s an orange chin strap. And the orange straps are covering the stripes on the helmet. Good catch. It looked like a plate to me at first because it matches the helmet color. (Or maybe I wasn’t looking hard enough and searching for a quick answer.)

Gotta say, I like the white better.

It may just be the way the stripes are set up on the different styles of helmets?

Plus the orange chin straps are blending into the helmet’s base color.

Not so much about the bearded official, but check out the socks on the players!

I’m on board with thinking Moore/Goode/Dick is fake. Besides the Moore typography being different, it is also not centered over the number.

[quote comment=”25883″][quote comment=”25879″]Not so much about the bearded official, but check out the socks on the players![/quote]

Also, #4 in that picture is wearing what appears to be soccer-style shin guards under his socks. I’ve never seen that before in football, but I can imagine it’s pretty functional.[/quote]
Someone mentioned on this site that Clinton Portis? has done it.

Since the NHL All-Star Game has become less about the best players playing hockey against one another and more about the players playing pond hockey and lighting the lamp, is it any wonder that the NHL wants to introduce another ridiculous element to the All-Star Weekend?

Skill competition can stay, Fan and Media Scrums can stay. The old NHL All-Star Game jerseys were, for the most part, well-designed, and looked good. If you can have jerseys like link, link, link, or link, I say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

Thanks for ruining the way hockey looks, Reebok. Real classy move.

I really like the “new”/old changes to the link jersey. An instant,.here’s that word, classic.

And just to finish up…

link

link

[quote comment=”25872″][quote comment=”25854″]i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?[/quote]

I don’t have the NFL Network either, and didn’t catch the highlights so I went and checked out the pictures at ESPN.com.

Check out link compared to link. Definitley something screwy going on there. Looks like Ocho Cinco’s helmet has some sort of plate on the side covering up parts of the stripes.[/quote]

I believe that it just looks screwy because CJ has switched to the Revolution helmet for last nights game. The Revolution has a piece of the helmet that comes down over the cheek. It is made this way because a study was done by Ridell and they concluded that most concussions happen by being hit on the side of the head and from the jaw line. These helmets help to disperse the energy better.

[quote comment=”25893″][quote comment=”25872″][quote comment=”25854″]i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?[/quote]

I don’t have the NFL Network either, and didn’t catch the highlights so I went and checked out the pictures at ESPN.com.

Check out link compared to link. Definitley something screwy going on there. Looks like Ocho Cinco’s helmet has some sort of plate on the side covering up parts of the stripes.[/quote]

I believe that it just looks screwy because CJ has switched to the Revolution helmet for last nights game. The Revolution has a piece of the helmet that comes down over the cheek. It is made this way because a study was done by Ridell and they concluded that most concussions happen by being hit on the side of the head and from the jaw line. These helmets help to disperse the energy better.[/quote]
sorry that should be Riddell

Paul, what is the latest on the quiz? Have you had many entries yet?

[quote comment=”25886″]Since the NHL All-Star Game has become less about the best players playing hockey against one another and more about the players playing pond hockey and lighting the lamp, is it any wonder that the NHL wants to introduce another ridiculous element to the All-Star Weekend?

Skill competition can stay, Fan and Media Scrums can stay. The old NHL All-Star Game jerseys were, for the most part, well-designed, and looked good. If you can have jerseys like link, link, link, or link, I say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

Thanks for ruining the way hockey looks, Reebok. Real classy move.[/quote]

link are some of the ugliest uniforms ever. They have them hanging in Halftime Pizza across the street from the TD Banknorth Garden. Everytime I go in there I want to hurl from the site of those jerseys. Teal and purple with in the shape of a big star?

And, if you’re going to have a big star that looks like it’s running over the shoulders to the back of the jersey why not finish the star on the other side instead of flattening it out. You still probably could have fir the name plate on there judging fron the size of this enormous star.

[quote comment=”25853″]Anyone else notice that they’re playing with an AFL football (Arena League)?

link

It kind of looks like it, but it’s link.

Are the link this weekend?

These are some of the best throwbacks in the NFL (San Diego in the Powder Blues are still the best, Cleveland was nice last week too.)

[quote comment=”25908″]The link looked good in their uni’s Thursday night, they must’ve felt good too shutting out the Maple Leafs 5-0, whoa.[/quote]
The Thrashers wouls look better if they eliminated the stupid “ATLANTA” on only one arm. The color scheme is great, the logo leaves a little to be desired, but only having one sleeve different is really stupid.

[quote comment=”25905″][quote comment=”25853″]Anyone else notice that they’re playing with an AFL football (Arena League)?

link

It kind of looks like it, but it’s link.[/quote]

I stand corrected. Good call.

That kid in the ‘Bengals-esque’ helmet is rocking some baseball cleats.

Here’s a post I made to my personal blog about “Moore Goode Dick” back in October:

“A little over a month ago, I posted a picture containing a number of Arkansas football players standing in a rather curious position. I have since discovered that said photo is too good to be true, and naught but a work of Le Photoshop.

Upon looking the picture over, it jumps out at me that Clarke Moore’s nameplate has obviously been altered as it is much chunkier than the other two players’ nameplates. Why I didn’t notice that before is anyone’s guess. So what is player #65’s real name? Demarcus Love! Yes, if left unchanged, their nameplates would have read “Love Goode Dick” instead of the not-quite-as-funny “Moore Goode Dick.”

However, this presents another conundrum. According to the player bio’s, D. Love is 6’5, while B. Goode and C. Dick come in at 6’1 and 6’2, respectively. Take another look at the picture and you will see that “Moore/Love” is actually much shorter than the other two players! So what’s going on here? My first thought was that the picture may have been taken from a previous year. However, there was no #65 on the Arkansas roster in 2005, or 2004, and back in 2003, B. Goode and C. Dick were not on the team. So, we’re left with player heights as our final clue to the mystery of the player on the left.

There are only a handful of Razorbacks under 6’0, and an even smaller number who are of the caucasian persuasion indicated in the photo. It boils down to one of about three players, and I’m placing my vote for #59, Stephen Arnold. His hair color and sideburns match the picture, plus he’s the backup kicker; a player who would hangout along the sidelines with B. Goode (longsnapper) and C. Dick (backup QB). The linchpin of my decision is that the numbers 5 and 9 can be easily transposed, and the 9 flipped to give you 65. This obviously explains the Photoshoppery, as I think we can all agree, “Arnold Goode Dick” just isn’t very funny.”

I always wondered what link was all about…and then noticed that the old St Louis Browns used a similar link. Apparently, I’m not up on my Brothers Grimm link. Just thought it was interesting.

How can you diss HomestarRunner/Strong Bad? Annoying? Never! It’s the best animation site out there. All free too, no advertising.

Oh, and the kickoff temperature of the Monday night game was 34 degrees. Which is…of course, not THAT cold.

Let me know when you link… I’ll be the first one to buy it!

[quote comment=”25899″]
link are some of the ugliest uniforms ever. They have them hanging in Halftime Pizza across the street from the TD Banknorth Garden. Everytime I go in there I want to hurl from the site of those jerseys. Teal and purple with in the shape of a big star?

And, if you’re going to have a big star that looks like it’s running over the shoulders to the back of the jersey why not finish the star on the other side instead of flattening it out. You still probably could have fir the name plate on there judging fron the size of this enormous star.[/quote]

So do the linkmake you hurl as well? The 94-97 All-Star Jerseys were introduced in NYC at MSG for the All-Star Game. They look far better than link, far better than link, and 100 times better than link. Are those lines supposed to be like the linklamps around the marquee?

sorry my bad. the new link thing is odd to me.

[quote comment=”25919″]
I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.

Regardless of who Reebok is targetting with this stupid idea, you don’t see the Yankees wearing purple or teal because it’s “fashionable” (sorry, Paul), do you? Steinbrenner won’t even allow the jersey makers to have their logo on the jersey anywhere. Reebok needs to leave well-enough alone, and stick to making jerseys, not designing them. As for the people within the NHL who are supporting this “new jersey = new merchandise dollars” idea… they’re no better than Beaverton, Oregon.

[quote comment=”25925″]Yay! Paul, I’m excited to see that you have discovered the glorious world of link and link! (If it’s your first time, link) I’m tellin’ you, this is quite possibly the second best website ever! (I think we all know what the best one is.)[/quote]
yeah it is, i have the StrongBad Messenger bag to use as a diaper bag

[quote comment=”25927″]

Maybe an Arkansas fan can clear this up for me. When I made my original post in October, there was a Stephen Arnold who wore #59 listed on hogwired and on ESPN as the Razorbacks backup punter. Five minutes ago, when I went back looking for links to match the earlier post, he’s nowhere to be found. Did he transfer, or maybe lose eligibility?[/quote]

Ok last one, I promise.

Here is the original link I found to Stephen Arnold’s bio. link
It seems his number has been changed to #34, link, although he is not listed on ESPN, or the official Alabama football roster at rolltide.com. There’s one other big change worth noting. There is no longer a Clarke Moore on the roster, but there is a Courtney Moore (who also wears #34), who is short enough to be the Moore in the picture. However, I have yet to find a picture of him, to verify ethnicity. I think the unfortunate habit of multiple and switching uni numbers will make this one just about impossible to shake out.[/quote]

Or how about I’m an idiot who mixed up Alabama and Arkansas? And how about adding the ability to delete posts to cover this sort of idiocy in the future?

[quote comment=”25877″]Thumbs up to the new Dodgers road jersey. It is a nice improvement and is as close to Dodgers road jersey perfection as can be attained.[/quote]

Agreed.

Thumbs way up to new LA Dodgers threads.

The white ‘outline’ marred the old unis.

[quote comment=”25907″]Are the link this weekend?

These are some of the best throwbacks in the NFL (San Diego in the Powder Blues are still the best, Cleveland was nice last week too.)[/quote]
What is the over/under on the amount of yardage gained by LT this Sunday, 350 ?
It’s gonna be ugly.

MArk said:

Just curious…why different letters on all the hats in that 1928 Christy Razors photo

I believe that it is because my Great-grandfather did some recruiting from neighboring towns. Clyde, Sandusky, not quite sure about the W on the white hat though, with the F being Fremont.

interesing that jerseys would change and not hats. pretty cool though.

heres the link

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[quote comment=”25926″][quote comment=”25919″]
I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.

Regardless of who Reebok is targetting with this stupid idea, you don’t see the Yankees wearing purple or teal because it’s “fashionable” (sorry, Paul), do you? Steinbrenner won’t even allow the jersey makers to have their logo on the jersey anywhere. Reebok needs to leave well-enough alone, and stick to making jerseys, not designing them. As for the people within the NHL who are supporting this “new jersey = new merchandise dollars” idea… they’re no better than Beaverton, Oregon.[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more Teebz, hockey is a game that is deeply rooted in tradition and if you read the reports of the “new jersey” unveiling one of the first lines reads “The NHL will be breaking with tradition….”. As for Gary Bettman, he is all about breaking with tradition, no fighting, no red-line, 2 referees, ugly jerseys, hockey in Nashville, etc etc etc. He is terrible for hockey, someone wake me when the nightmare is over!!

While researching the quiz, came across this great photo of link. Not sure if this accurate, but he may have been the first goalie to decorate his mask. He added “stitches” to every spot on his mask that got hit with a puck. This photo alone makes one wonder why it took goalies so long to start wearing masks.

[quote comment=”25941″]As for Gary Bettman, he is all about breaking with tradition, no fighting, no red-line, 2 referees, ugly jerseys, hockey in Nashville, etc etc etc. He is terrible for hockey, someone wake me when the nightmare is over!![/quote]

Some truth to this, but it’s not quite all him. The Competition Committee, composed of three voting groups, made most of these recommendations to the NHLPA and GMs. The voting members of the Committee are:

– NHL players Rob Blake, Martin Brodeur, Jarome Iginla, Trevor Linden, and Brendan Shanahan.
– GMs Bob Gainey (Mtl), Kevin Lowe (Edm), David Poile (Nas), and Don Waddell (Atl).
– owner Ed Snider (Phi).

The moderators are Colin Campbell, respresenting the NHL, and Mike Gartner, representing the NHLPA.

Rules aren’t traditional in so much as the look of the NHL. There is always outcry at NHL uniform changes, but to radically change the look of teams who have been around for almost 100 years is blasphemous. If MLB forced the Yankees or Red Sox or Dodgers to radically change their uniform design, the backlash towards Selig would probably kill him.

[quote comment=”25943″]While researching the quiz, came across this great photo of link. Not sure if this accurate, but he may have been the first goalie to decorate his mask. He added “stitches” to every spot on his mask that got hit with a puck. This photo alone makes one wonder why it took goalies so long to start wearing masks.[/quote]

The slapshot was a large reason goalies started wear masks. On November 1st, 1959, Plante stopped a shot with his unprotected face that required 200 stitches to repair. The mask he appeared on the ice with was one he had been wearing in practice since 1955. After returning to win the game against the Rangers by a score of 4-1, the Canadiens won 11 straight games and the Stanley Cup with Plante wearing the mask. He was supposed to stop wearing the mask once his face had healed, but refused to take it off for safety reasons.

However, the man creditted with the “invention” of the slapshot, Bernie “Boom Boom” Geoffrion of the Montreal Canadiens, started playing in the league in 1951. The slapshot was used by few players early on, but after Geoffrion won the Art Ross Trophy with Montreal for most points in 1955, the slapshot was adopted by many.

As you can see, 1955 was a critical year: Geoffrion uses the slapshot to win the award for best offensive player, and teammate Plante protects his face in practice against Geoffrion by wearing a mask.

[quote comment=”25922″][quote comment=”25899″]
link are some of the ugliest uniforms ever. They have them hanging in Halftime Pizza across the street from the TD Banknorth Garden. Everytime I go in there I want to hurl from the site of those jerseys. Teal and purple with in the shape of a big star?

And, if you’re going to have a big star that looks like it’s running over the shoulders to the back of the jersey why not finish the star on the other side instead of flattening it out. You still probably could have fir the name plate on there judging fron the size of this enormous star.[/quote]

So do the linkmake you hurl as well? The 94-97 All-Star Jerseys were introduced in NYC at MSG for the All-Star Game. They look far better than link, far better than link, and 100 times better than link. Are those lines supposed to be like the linklamps around the marquee?[/quote]

Yes, the San Jose Sharks uniform is quite nauseating.

I never said anything about the other uniforms as I don’t follow hockey that’s the first time I have never seen those.

A mention by the esteemed Paul Lukas (though I remember specifying it should be black) AND a link to Strongbad in one blog? Best. Blog. Entry. Ever.

I disagree that the elimination of the piping on the Dodgers’ away jerseys make it look better. The jersey looks blah to me without it.

Teebz. I feel your pain. The only consolation for me is that the North Stars did not live to see the day. It makes losing them…no, it doesn’t. Never mind.

Burrill–I will be watching the Wild! hame tonight against your Winged Wheels (TM). Two nice unis with not-no-nice logos.

Ok. I am off to buy UniWatch (TM) stuff. I foresee loved ones receiving UniWatch (TM) magnets—along with the tats—in their stockings this Christmas.

Oh, and al, this is for you: link

[quote comment=”25933″][quote comment=”25877″]Thumbs up to the new Dodgers road jersey. It is a nice improvement and is as close to Dodgers road jersey perfection as can be attained.[/quote]

Agreed.

Thumbs way up to new LA Dodgers threads.

I also like that the player names have returned to the style of each letter being stitched to the jersey, rather than to a nameplate. Wonderful, clean look.

The white ‘outline’ marred the old unis.[/quote]

Since it hasn’t been mentioned, if any of you get TSN by satellite or cable, I suggest tuning in tonight. For the first time ever during an NHL game, Christ Cuthbert and Glenn Healy, the broadcast team for TSN, will be broadcasting from directly between the benches. TSN and NBC have had colour guys down there before, but this will be an NHL first for an NHL broadcasting team.

link.

[quote comment=”25960″] Christ Cuthbert and Glenn Healy…[/quote]

Um… that should be Chris, not Christ. He might know his stuff, but he’s not even close to being on that level.

Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)

[quote comment=”25962″][quote comment=”25960″] Christ Cuthbert and Glenn Healy…[/quote]

Um… that should be Chris, not Christ. He might know his stuff, but he’s not even close to being on that level.

Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

Teebz, six cups????? What are you doing to yourself? My excuse is that I haven’t had my one cup yet, which I’m about to pour.

p.s. It’s ok, Teebz. We know you think hockey is god (TM).

[quote comment=”25966″][quote comment=”25964″]p.s. It’s ok, Teebz. We know you think hockey is god (TM).[/quote]

OK, that’s it — enough with the TM symbols already, please.[/quote]

Awright, Mr. Grumpy. I will put a moratorium on the trademark symbol unless it’s truly worranted.

p.s. Tbeez, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?

[quote comment=”25968″][quote comment=”25962″]

Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

siX, htats nnothingg!!!! i havvvvvvvvve sssix cupppsof cofffeee by 9inthemorning. imat 3 potsrigh t now….[/quote]

todd, I’m surprised you can type at all! Sheesh. Maybe we need to start a coffee addict support group along with a uni-obseesed support group. Come to think of it, perhaps the two are related.

This is way off topic, but more on target, if you get what I mean. I was disturbed by the Twins’ mock-up helmet on that helmet site posted yesterday. Their helmet would not be red, but blue. The red helmet did not look good at all (and I am strong proponent of the color red).

[quote comment=”25969″]
p.s. Teebz, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

Not at all. He’s one being. He can’t change Neilsen’s system. ;o)

And Todd, I’ll meet you at Starbucks later for as much caffeine as we can get. And an overspeed conversation on all things uniform.

[quote comment=”25974″]Sharks logo – not bad at all – Sharks jersey with all the unnecessary piping and strange font for the names, no good – Black Sharks jersey – terrible.

Teebz, you make me almost want to order the center ice package just to see this broadcast thing…plus I love Glen Healy. Remembere when he and Pat Flatley used to do “Heals and Flats”? Classic name for the two of them together – and they may be the only teammates to be teammates on botht he Rangers and the Islanders. Not sure if that’s true, but I can’t think of any others….[/quote]

BB

Flats and Pat Lafontaine might have missed each other by a year with the Rangers, but they’re the only other combo that comes immediately to mind

just a quick weigh-in on the Dodgers’ unis: great!

that white outline looked like crap. nice, simple Dodger blue is all they need. now they look like the classy old-school team that they are.

[quote comment=”25968″][quote comment=”25962″]

Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

siX, htats nnothingg!!!! i havvvvvvvvve sssix cupppsof cofffeee by 9inthemorning. imat 3 potsrigh t now….[/quote]

See, I used to have the six cups of coffee thing going on but recently I have been able to keep it to 3 cups before noon. Then I switch over to the Red Bulls for the rest of the day. That’s healthier, right?

[quote comment=”25973″]

And Todd, I’ll meet you at Starbucks later for as much caffeine as we can get. And an overspeed conversation on all things uniform.[/quote]

starbucks? shoot, id be happy with a 50 gallon drum of folgers crystals and some hot water, hanging in the rec room. but hell, lets face it, outside of the cast of “friends”, and “frasier” who gets together to hang out and drink, ahem, coffee… lets do 2 30 packs of miller lite, the carolina/kentucky game at noon, and then the army/navy game at 230… although i do have a ticket to the army/navy game if i want it…

Minna, it looks like the Wings are at the Wild! tonight. Does that mean it’ll be the Wings’ whites against the Wild!’s Christmas unis? I wouldn’t mind that combination. Not at all.

But tomorrow I have to go see the Sharks in person. Not sure about that. At least it’ll be the away Sharks unis. And the home Wings unis will be eye-catching enough to offset that.

As a Dodgers faithful, I like the new away jersey. Reminds me of one of the link.

[quote comment=”25986″][quote comment=”25979″]

See, I used to have the six cups of coffee thing going on but recently I have been able to keep it to 3 cups before noon. Then I switch over to the Red Bulls for the rest of the day. That’s healthier, right?[/quote]

its only healthier if you have half a can of red bull and you add either a shot of jaeger or a shot of cherry vodka, you know the jaegerbomb, and the cherry bomb! now thats healthy livin’![/quote]

Oh, you mean the Heart Attack Special. An EMT friend of mine said the alcohol slows the heart and the Red Bull speeds it up. The heart doesn’t know what to do. But, at least they taste great!

[quote comment=”25980″]The Myrtle Beach Pelicans (Braves’ A affiliate) unveiled their new logo and uniform designs yesterday. Gone are black and teal replaced by powder blue and navy blue.

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Some neat detail on the logo, the rope border around the outside and a cresent moon (from the SC state flag). Looks more like a hockey logo (substitute bat for hockey stick). Powder blue is becoming the new teal though. A mortitorium may be needed like, right now. The powder blue jersey with gold numbers and lettering looks pretty sharp though. The sleeveless regular unis will be nice for your average 85 degree/85% humidity night in South Carolina.[/quote]

Mike Miller, it’s not powder blue; it’s Pelican Blue. Yeah, right. That’s powder blue if I’ve ever seen it. I am with you on the death knell for powder blue. To be fair, I never liked it in the first place, not even these:

link

I like the logo (the pelican), though.

[quote comment=”25970″]I don’t think the link are all that bad. I kinda like the Broncos look on the hockey jersey. Though I think they do need to redo that link, it looks minor-league and very mid-90’s.[/quote]

Note that the Sharks altered their jerseys (not the logo)in the mid 90s and the current is an improvement

[quote comment=”25981″][quote comment=”25973″]

And Todd, I’ll meet you at Starbucks later for as much caffeine as we can get. And an overspeed conversation on all things uniform.[/quote]

starbucks? shoot, id be happy with a 50 gallon drum of folgers crystals and some hot water, hanging in the rec room. but hell, lets face it, outside of the cast of “friends”, and “frasier” who gets together to hang out and drink, ahem, coffee… lets do 2 30 packs of miller lite, the carolina/kentucky game at noon, and then the army/navy game at 230… although i do have a ticket to the army/navy game if i want it…[/quote]

hey, todd, am I invited even if I don’t drink beer? I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty. Party at todd’s place! (Closer to my beloved Troy P.).

You are even hesitating to go to the Army/Navy game? You have to go! Think of the pomp! Think of the circumstance! Think of the uniformed soldiers who always watch!

[quote comment=”25998″][quote comment=”25996″]I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty.[/quote]

Flank? Too funny, Minna. :o)[/quote]

Ooooh, Freudian slip. I’m hitting that java a bit too hard. I meant, flask, of course.

[quote comment=”25963″][quote comment=”25938″]Hey Paul:

You got a mention in the Wall Street Journal Online today. They even posted a link to uni watch.
link[/quote]

[quote comment=”25939″]heres the link

link[/quote]

so, what did it say in the journal online…[/quote]

The article talked about college rules allowing for multiple teammates to wear the same number. At the end the reporter said he got it from the always entertaining Paul Lukas’ uniwatchblog.

[quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

link says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.

[quote comment=”26004″][quote comment=”25995″]I wish it could be red on red-and-green. That would be fantastic. Too bad you’re not going to tonight’s game (if it were in Detroit), Burrill. I could try to pick you out of the crowd in your Flying Wheels jersey and UnderArm, UnderAll, UnderWhatever hat.[/quote]

I will be wearing a shirt with a Flight-Certified Wheels logo, but I may wear my Michigan helmet, just to be an oddball. Besides, hockey is a dangerous sport. Or so I will claim, if I wear it.[/quote]

I was going to suggest that helmet, but I didn’t want to appear disrespectful. You should post pics when you go.

Speaking of dangerous sports: link

Just in case you need more justification to wear the Flying Wings helmet (reminds me of flying, for some reason).

Flight-Certified Wheels. *snicker*

Man, I love you guys! (The rum in my flank talking).

[quote comment=”26006″][quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

link says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.[/quote]

As the self-declared number one Reds fan who posts here, this has me verrrrrrrry nervous.

I can’t believe that there isn’t more outrage regarding the duplicate uni numbers in college by uniwatch readers. It is so stupid. Why would any player want to share an “identity” with another player on the same roster? Ohio State does plenty of it and it drives me crazy. Who cares if a player has gotten attached to a certain number. If a number is taken, tell him to pick another one. End of conversation. I can’t believe Tress goes along with this.
Speaking of Tress – does anyone know for sure what jersey color OSU is wearing for the national championship game? We would have the home jersey choice – but have won two straight bowls in AZ wearing white and I think they should wear white again.

[quote comment=”25922″][quote comment=”25899″]
linkmake you hurl as well? The 94-97 All-Star Jerseys were introduced in NYC at MSG for the All-Star Game. They look far better than link, far better than link, and 100 times better than link. Are those lines supposed to be like the linklamps around the marquee?[/quote]

I loved those 2000 All star jersey’s. Dug the horizontal stripe, although it looked better on the White Goalie Sweater than the on the dark skaters.

[quote comment=”25996″]
hey, todd, am I invited even if I don’t drink beer? I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty. Party at todd’s place! (Closer to my beloved Troy P.).[/quote]

Ha, thats kinda funny Minna. I have this friend and all she drinks is captain and cokes (or diet, but whatever). She goes so far as to carry her own fifth of Captain Morgans in her purse when we hang out.

P.S. damn you midwesterners and your pop!

[quote comment=”26011″][quote comment=”26006″][quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

link says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.[/quote]

As the self-declared number one Reds fan who posts here, this has me verrrrrrrry nervous.[/quote]

I would be worried , Robert. A press conference on Friday after business hours? Classic spin control.

[quote comment=”26017″][quote comment=”25996″]
hey, todd, am I invited even if I don’t drink beer? I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty. Party at todd’s place! (Closer to my beloved Troy P.).[/quote]

Ha, thats kinda funny Minna. I have this friend and all she drinks is captain and cokes (or diet, but whatever). She goes so far as to carry her own fifth of Captain Morgans in her purse when we hang out.

P.S. damn you midwesterners and your pop![/quote]

Now, that is hardcore. Or is it just so hard to get rum where you are (where are you?) with your soda? I don’t have a flask, so I would have to rely on a thermos if I were to venture outside with my drink.

We should have regional UniWatch parties, with or without Paul. Maybe we could have softball teams and elimination rounds and everything. Of course, we would never get past the ‘planning the uniform’ stage….

[quote comment=”26015″]
I loved those 2000 All star jersey’s. Dug the horizontal stripe, although it looked better on the White Goalie Sweater than the on the dark skaters.[/quote]

The players looked like clowns.

[quote comment=”26023″][quote comment=”26015″]
I loved those 2000 All star jersey’s. Dug the horizontal stripe, although it looked better on the White Goalie Sweater than the on the dark skaters.[/quote]

The players looked like clowns.[/quote]

Why?

[quote comment=”25926″][quote comment=”25919″]
I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.

Regardless of who Reebok is targetting with this stupid idea, you don’t see the Yankees wearing purple or teal because it’s “fashionable” (sorry, Paul), do you? Steinbrenner won’t even allow the jersey makers to have their logo on the jersey anywhere. Reebok needs to leave well-enough alone, and stick to making jerseys, not designing them. As for the people within the NHL who are supporting this “new jersey = new merchandise dollars” idea… they’re no better than Beaverton, Oregon.[/quote]

Here’s what I don’t understand… From what I’ve heard, the fit of the jersey’s is going to change. Why would you think that would lead to some radical re-design of the traditional jersey’s and color changes? I’m just guessing since no one has seen them yet, but I bet the Habs jersey is going to look the same, just tighter. Why so alarmist?

[quote comment=”26019″][quote comment=”26011″][quote comment=”26006″][quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

link says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.[/quote]

As the self-declared number one Reds fan who posts here, this has me verrrrrrrry nervous.[/quote]

I would be worried , Robert. A press conference on Friday after business hours? Classic spin control.[/quote]

Reds Fest is being shown live on mlb.com, so we should be able to see the new uniforms as they are unveiled.

[quote comment=”26029″][quote comment=”26010″]Hopefully the Reds will alter their link “C” and come up with something similar their link ball cap.[/quote]

Ahem. The Reds were using the wishbone “C” long before the Bears’ franchise even existed.[/quote]
Any proof?

[quote comment=”26028″]Why so alarmist?[/quote]

Reebok radically changed the practice jerseys already, and the Dallas Stars have already announced they have to eliminate the star on their jersey for the new template to work. As you have seen with the Barney Rubble Hairpieces jerseys, no hem striping, and that was always a vital piece to an NHL jersey.

The issue? Templates. No longer can a team be “unique” with their design. It has to follow the template. Be gone, tradition and history. Reebok has proved that the almighty dollar is far more important than the integrity of the game.

Has anyone noticed that all the current color/studio guys were, at one point, teammates by degrees of seperation? Kelly Hrudey (CBC), Glenny Healy (TSN), Tie Domi (TSN), Pat Flatley, Bil Berg (NHL Network), Ed Olczyk (NHL on NBC), Ray Ferraro (NHL on NBC), Greg Millen (CBC), and Nick Kypreos (Rogers Sportsnet) all fit the pattern. Heck, even Cammi Granato (NHL on NBC) does!

link.

[quote comment=”25973″][quote comment=”25969″]
p.s. Teebz, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

Not at all. He’s one being. He can’t change Neilsen’s system. ;o)
[/quote]

Of course, if you are Catholic, you can count Him (or Her) for three in the ratings.

I’m a free agent in terms of a region. No one else from my city that I know of even comments on this site. And I’m a pretty good softball player. ;o)

I’ll start the bidding for my services at $1 and a six-pack of your best regional beer.

[quote comment=”26036″][quote comment=”26028″]Why so alarmist?[/quote]

Reebok radically changed the practice jerseys already, and the Dallas Stars have already announced they have to eliminate the star on their jersey for the new template to work. As you have seen with the Barney Rubble Hairpieces jerseys, no hem striping, and that was always a vital piece to an NHL jersey.

The issue? Templates. No longer can a team be “unique” with their design. It has to follow the template. Be gone, tradition and history. Reebok has proved that the almighty dollar is far more important than the integrity of the game.[/quote]

You seem to be jumping to conclussions that every team will have the same design like Nike College football teams.

They are changing the fit, not design. Because of the new fit, will some design be affected? Sure. No more hemline design, which I would hardly call vital, and Dallas can’t do their design because it impacts the hemline, but that doesn’t mean team’s can’t be unique in their design or keep the design they have now. Montreal will have the same logo, so will the leafs, so will the rangers, so tradition seems intact to me.

Being from Buffalo, I hate that new logo, but that was the organization’s choice. The Owner wanted a completely new logo, and he got one. On the other hand, I love that front uni number, which is completely unique.

And I just don’t see how a tighter Jersey impacts the integrity of the game. A new fitted jersey, that fits better over modern equipment doesn’t affect the integrity of the game at all in my opinion.

[quote comment=”25926″][quote comment=”25919″]
I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.
[/quote]

An link to be wary of big changes in hockey uniforms. (Link from SI’s “Sports Fashion Mis-statements” photo essay)

Dodgers new road unis look great because they got rid of the piping. Piping on baseball jerseys remind me too much of pajamas!

Hockey is in the toilet. A great (I really mean) great game detroy by Stern’s NBA Entertainment lawyer (true).

Since Bettman took over hockey has seen the following catastrophic events:

1. Lost an entire season to a player lockout.
2. Ratings: Down.
3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)
5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.
6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.
7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)
8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.
9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)
10. Canadian market: slipping south.

I used to absolutely adore the great game of hockey. Now you cannot pay me to attend a game and the local team the Blackhawks, an amazing history can’t draw 7,000 fans a game… it’s sad, pathetic tragic and then here comes Reebok…the only outfitter WORSE than NIKE…

Blame the guy at the top, Commissioner Bettman.

Minna, I am planning to take my camera to the game, but the Wings have an unpleasantly specific camera policy, so I have to figure out which lens to take. I prefer Comerica Park, where they really don’t care what gear you bring as long as you stay in your seat and don’t use a tripod.

[quote comment=”26061″]Minna, I am planning to take my camera to the game, but the Wings have an unpleasantly specific camera policy, so I have to figure out which lens to take. I prefer Comerica Park, where they really don’t care what gear you bring as long as you stay in your seat and don’t use a tripod.[/quote]

Why is that, Burrill? Are they afraid of…bootleg photos? Disturbances? What? That is strange. Well, do the best you can to capture the Flying Wheel awash in a sea of red. Oh, and you can be official cameraman for the Midwestern Conference—when you’re not pitching, of course. Hopefully, you will not run into Kenny Rogers–or vice-versa.

[quote comment=”26059″]

1. Lost an entire season to a player lockout.[/quote]

This was essential to control league-spending and players’ salaries. This was hardly catastrophic as the NHL has come back better than what it was before.

[quote comment=”26059″]2. Ratings: Down.
3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)[/quote]

Pascal Leclaire, Rick Nash, David Vyborny, Espen Knutsen, Rostislav Klesla, Adam Foote, Sergei Fedorov, Manny Malhotra. Is that enough?
[quote comment=”26059″]5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.[/quote]

Ownership changes, not Bettman, prompted these changes.
[quote comment=”26059″]6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.[/quote]

A brutal idea, yes. But you can’t fault him for trying to use technology to make the game better. The other leagues have tried things as well that failed miserably.

[quote comment=”26059″]7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)[/quote]

Most of the new rules were put in place by the Competition Committee made up of players, GMs and an owner. Colin Campbell hands down disciplinary action, not rule changes.

[quote comment=”26059″]8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.[/quote]

But far more entertaining for the fans. And allows for the players to be creative and have some fun. It’s not life or death like the Olympics, but it’s a fun and exciting way to earn an extra crucial point.

[quote comment=”26059″]9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)[/quote]

Signage on and around the boards has been there since before Bettman took over.

[quote comment=”26059″]10. Canadian market: slipping south.[/quote]

The markets that Quebec City and Winnipeg moved into are bigger than the ones they left. Have you been to Toronto? You can’t get a ticket from a ticket booth, and scalpers want no less than $500 per ticket. Why? Because the passion is still there.

[quote comment=”26059″]I used to absolutely adore the great game of hockey. Now you cannot pay me to attend a game and the local team the Blackhawks, an amazing history can’t draw 7,000 fans a game… it’s sad, pathetic tragic and then here comes Reebok…the only outfitter WORSE than NIKE…

Blame the guy at the top, Commissioner Bettman.[/quote]

The guy who owns the Blackhawks is to blame, not Bettman. Bettman is the commissioner. He works for the owners. If Wirtz wasn’t such a moron, his team wouldn’t be in the position it is today. Your GMs and the owner are squarely to blame for the sorry state of affairs in Chicago, not the Commish of the NHL.

[quote comment=”26067″]Not link of a link for the link, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.[/quote]

Not much of a change? They are completely different in almost every respect. No pinstripes, no sleeveless, all red home cap, GREATLY reduced black, Mr. Red returns. On a possitive note, the aways look really nice, on a negative note…WHY THE PIPING?

[quote comment=”26058″][quote comment=”26050″]
They are changing the fit, not design. Because of the new fit, will some design be affected? Sure. No more hemline design, which I would hardly call vital, and Dallas can’t do their design because it impacts the hemline, but that doesn’t mean team’s can’t be unique in their design or keep the design they have now. Montreal will have the same logo, so will the leafs, so will the rangers, so tradition seems intact to me.
[/quote]

A logo does not define a team. Otherwise, remove the pinstripes from the Yankees.

The hemline stripe has been on NHL jerseys since the 1920s. The Canadiens have always had a stripe. Toronto’s jerseys have barely changed from the 1930s. And why is Reebok so dead-set on tucking in the jerseys? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Reebok is to the NHL as much as Nike is to college football. Excuse the sarcasm, but all love what Nike did to college football jerseys.[/quote]

I’ll absolutely grant you the point of the logo not being the ultimately defining thing about a team, but there is a difference between the yankees, who are known for their pinstripes, and any hockey team, none of which are known for the hemline stripe. Teams went years without a stripe at all, including the Leafs and Habs. Granted that most teams had a stripe. The fact of the matter is that I’m attached to it as a design element.

I just have an open mind to the jersey’s. Maybe I will hate them, but I’m not opposed to change, so I’m willing to see them before casting judgement.

[quote comment=”26068″][quote comment=”26067″]Not link of a link for the link, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.[/quote]

Not much of a change? They are completely different in almost every respect. No pinstripes, no sleeveless, all red home cap, GREATLY reduced black, Mr. Red returns. On a possitive note, the aways look really nice, on a negative note…WHY THE PIPING?[/quote]

As a Red fanatic, I like the changes. Its a quality update with a nod toward the past. Very appropriate for MLB’s oldest franchise, in my opinion. The re-introduction of Mr. Redlegs is totally AWESOME!

The lockout.
This was hardly catastrophic as the NHL has come back better than what it was before.
It is? Hardly. You’re in minority who think so.

2. Ratings: Down.
No comment?
3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
No comment?

4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)

Pascal Leclaire, Rick Nash, David Vyborny, Espen Knutsen, Rostislav Klesla, Adam Foote, Sergei Fedorov, Manny Malhotra.

Is that enough? Yep. My point exactly. OK Federov I get…what city is it? Cincinnati?

5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.
Ownership changes, not Bettman, prompted these changes.
Changes still run through the league office I assume…

6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.
A brutal idea, yes. But you can’t fault him for trying to use technology to make the game better. The other leagues have tried things as well that failed miserably.
The yellow 1st down marker on the football field has failed? It’s awesome invention…

7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)
Most of the new rules were put in place by the Competition Committee made up of players, GMs and an owner. Colin Campbell hands down disciplinary action, not rule changes. Huh?

8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.
But far more entertaining for the fans. And allows for the players to be creative and have some fun. It’s not life or death like the Olympics, but it’s a fun and exciting way to earn an extra crucial point.
Nothing says gimmick more than “it’s not life or death…”

9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)
Signage on and around the boards has been there since before Bettman took over.
Doesn’t mean he should’nt/can’t fix it…

10. Canadian market: slipping south.
The markets that Quebec City and Winnipeg moved into are bigger than the ones they left. Have you been to Toronto? You can’t get a ticket from a ticket booth, and scalpers want no less than $500 per ticket. Why? Because the passion is still there.
An option to the Raptors or the Blue Jays.

Fully agree with you on the Blackhawks…

My opinion //Hockey is broke and Bettman.

JimmyMac said:

[quote comment=”26076″]

Open minds are the only thing anyone can have. However, unless a change is necessary, why make one? I oppose the change for three reasons:

1. Tradition.
2. Unnecessary “Nike” tactics.
3. Cash-grab.[/quote]

1. Traditionally, the sweaters fit tighter than they do now. It’s only been since the 80’s that they started getting loose. That’s why they had to start mandating equipment tie downs.

2. Can you define these tactics? What specifically do you mean.

3. I think that it’s less a cash grab and more a marketing measure. Hockey players are some of the strongest, fittest athletes out there, but you wouldn’t know it from the formless jersey.

I’m bummed because I thought today’s column was going to answer my “why does Adam “Pac-Man” Jones wear a jersey that says ‘P. Jones’ and not ‘A. Jones'”-question.

[quote comment=”26089″]David,

I had a bit of the same reaction, but I think its because I’m so used to the sleeveless unis they’ve been using since they changed the pinstripe unis in the 90’s. The change is a bit of a knock-off of the Tigers layout, but that’s not a bad thing. There are too many pinstriped and sleeveless “template” (for lack of a better word) uniforms used in baseball. Don’t get me wrong, pinstriped and sleeveless unis are good. I just think the piping used by the Reds harken to the classics like the Tigers and Red Sox home unis; teams that, collectively with the Reds, have a long standing tradition and history.[/quote]

I have been looking at the uniforms on and off all night and I am starting to come around to the home uniforms. I think it may just be the stark contrast of the red piping on the stark white uniform that makes the home uniforms look a little off to me. I think I am also adjusting to having sleeves again and losing the pin stripes(both are nice to be getting used to). It is just such a different look, one that we haven’t really seen since the 80’s pullovers.

I think this is a uniform that will go through some tweaks over the next few years, but I think it is a uniform that, if tweaked correctly, can be one that we keep for a long time.

I think the new Reds Unis are an improvement. I’m always in favor when teams clean things up a bit.

My only gripe is that they have this classic, 1930’s look, but they use the 70’s-looking “REDS inside the wishbone” logo. Go with a red wishbone C in that location, and I’d be elated. Everyone knows you’re the Reds.

Oh, and get rid of any and all black dropshadows. I hate dropshadows.

this = better

There is a picture of the Reds new BP jersey and cap on their home page right now along with the other jerseys. It’s one of those changing stories on the main page that says “Reds to don new uniforms for the 2007 season” It looks like there is something on the side of the cap and I remember Paul had mentioned something about there being some stretch fabric on the sides of the caps or something like that.
Reds

good catch, ed! yeah that’s definitely the new bp jersey on the site and you can see the white/black sidepanneling. definitely a carbon copy of the sidepanneling from the ’06 allstar game in pittsburgh this year.

[quote comment=”26073″][quote comment=”26025″][quote comment=”26020″][quote comment=”25969″]

p.s. Tbeez, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

Doesn’t fall into the all-important male 18-45 demographic.[/quote]

Dane, words of wisdom. But it begs the question: if hockey doesn’t appeal to males aged 18-45, why the hell not?[/quote]

Sorry, that joke misfired. I wanted to indicate that God(TM) doesn’t fall into the 18-45 demographic, which is why it doesn’t help the ratings.

(insert Opie & Anthony car crash sound here)[/quote]

Dane, that makes it very funny. Careful, though, with the trademark symbol—don’t want to send Paul into an apoplectic fit.

[quote comment=”26105″]Sorry, I misread your post.

None the less, the “reds” inside the wishbone C has been around since 1913:

link

Good point. I think it’s the black dropshadows that bug me, which is very much a fancy of the late 90’s. You have this late 90’s-ized logo on a classic uniform design, and it just looks weird, in my opinion.

At least it’s not the Bengals, right?

If link still played in the NBA, I have a feeling link would get him fined.

But I give the players credit for link regarding the new Technical calls and the new ball. Reactions are natural. I understand when they OVER react, but hitting the post because you missed a lay up? Understandable in my book.

I like the new Reds jersey..great upgrade from the disasters they’ve been wearing the past few years..and am I the only one really digging the new font “Redlegs”?

On another note..I’m really happy that the world of Homestar Runner has merged with the Uni Watch one..

I even named one of my dogs after the character of link.

I’m not sure why you want to test me with this, but here we go.

[quote comment=”26077″]
It is? Hardly. You’re in minority who think so.[/quote]

Are you a Devils fan? Because if you loved clutching-and-grabbing, sign here. Scoring is up, and excitement is what you want. So unless you’ve been sleeping, the game is faster, the goals are more plentiful, and the games are far more exciting.

[quote comment=”26077″]2. Ratings: Down.
No comment?[/quote]

When you have no major US television contract like the NFL or MLB, it’s hard to push ratings up. I assumed this would be a no-brainer, but I’d be happy to explain in greater detail if you like.

[quote comment=”26077″]3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.[/quote]

Define “major”. Toronto? No. Vancouver? No. Denver? No. New York? No. In fact, attendance is up in Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Nashville, and Anaheim. Since Los Angeles is brutal, and Anaheim is so close, would it be fair to say that the true hockey fans in LA migrate to Anaheim where the team is winning?

[quote comment=”26077″]Yep. My point exactly. OK Federov I get…what city is it? Cincinnati?[/quote]

Either you don’t follow hockey, or this is sarcasm. Either way, it’s a slap to the face for the entire city of Columbus, Ohio.

[quote comment=”26077″]
Changes still run through the league office I assume…[/quote]

Why would the league block a jersey change? If they are comfortable with the Reebok change, why would they prevent a team from updating/changing their logo/colours? They have far bigger things to worry about than team colours. That’s what trademarks are for (had to throw that in for you, Paul).

[quote comment=”26077″]The yellow 1st down marker on the football field has failed? It’s awesome invention…[/quote]

The orange baseball. The officials’ cam. The balata ball experiment in baseball. Astroturf in FIFA matches. The BCS. Fox broadcasting the NHL. And these are only what I can think of off the top of my head.

[quote comment=”26077″]Huh? – the response to Colin Campbell’s job[/quote]

Colin Campbell in charge of handing down suspensions of players and overseeing the league’s on-ice officials, not creating and mandating rules.

[quote comment=”26077″]Nothing says gimmick more than “it’s not life or death…”[/quote]

Nothing says desperate for a rationalization than attributing a good addition for the paying fans to being a gimmick. Is it a gimmick in the Olympics? No. If you’re paying top dollar for a seat to watch your team, a tie is not the way you want to go home. It’s boring and counter-productive to the fans’ interests, and the latter reason is the more important reason.

[quote comment=”26077″]Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t/can’t fix it…[/quote]

Are you implying that the teams should give up the revenue they make off the advertisements on the boards? You’ll need a better reason than “he should fix it”. I can guarantee you that no team nor the league will take this seriously.

[quote comment=”26077″]An option to the Raptors or the Blue Jays.[/quote]

Are you saying they are passion-less? Chris Bosh would argue that. Vernon Wells would argue that.

[quote comment=”26077”]Fully agree with you on the Blackhawks…

My opinion //Hockey is broke and Bettman.[/quote]

You’re certainly entitled to it. I will never debate that. :o)

[quote comment=”25853″]Anyone else notice that they’re playing with an AFL football (Arena League)?

link

yah thats the LCP Bengals in Leander-Cedar Park texas, where I live, they use those fo a reason i dont know but the sports stores in the areas sell a BOAT load of AFL footballs

[quote comment=”26064″]Why is that, Burrill? Are they afraid of…bootleg photos? Disturbances? What? That is strange. Well, do the best you can to capture the Flying Wheel awash in a sea of red. Oh, and you can be official cameraman for the Midwestern Conference—when you’re not pitching, of course. Hopefully, you will not run into Kenny Rogers–or vice-versa.[/quote]

The Wings prohibit lenses over 80mm. This is irritating to me because my most useful lens for this sort of occasion extends to 85, putting it just over the cutoff.

As for why, maybe they want to restrict aspiring photographers in the crowd; maybe they’re just trying to limit the physical size of spectators’ cameras. I suspect the former is more likely than the latter. Either way, I’m not too fond of it, but I can deal with it.

Wow — you’re trusting me with the position of pitcher? You’re brave. I haven’t played any sort of baseball-like game since I played t-ball. But I’ll do my best to avoid Kenny “Hey, What’s Up With His Hat? Is He Wearing A Different Hat?” Rogers.

Burrill, link look better in motion, even when brutally cutting down my Wild!

Before the game, they showed footage from games past—which means the North Stars, of course. Tomorrow, the Wild! play the Dallas Stars, which will not be a pretty sight. I want link back!!!!!

Have fun at the game tomorrow, Burrill—try to smuggle in your best lens. I expect pictures posted Sunday morning!

re: Houston Cougars…. link is better than link

[quote comment=”26131″]re: Houston Cougars…. link is better than link[/quote]

Bob A. Agreed. This is definiely better than that, but it’s because that has two different shades of red. If that had a jersey that matched the pants, well, my eyes would explode.

[quote comment=”26134″][quote comment=”26132″]Teebz, time to lay off the coffee, man. It’s not good for your blood-pressure.

At least switch to decaf.[/quote]

Like any fanatic, I shall defend my religion until death. :o)[/quote]

As long as it’s not your death. Who will speak for hockey if you are no longer around to champion it? So, I say, it’s as much for your religion as yourself that I implore you to cut down to five cups a day.

Banker B. and Bluenoser can only do so much on their own—with a little help from Kenny, of course. Hockey needs you, Teebz. Don’t forget that.

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If only the NHL had me employed….

I can dream the impossible dream, can’t I?[/quote]

You could be the official uni-tweaker. No team could change their unis without your approval. Think of the power!

[quote comment=”26047″][quote comment=”25868″][quote comment=”25867″][quote comment=”25859″]In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”[/quote]
I say puffy eyelids. Or eye”unders”??[/quote]

That’s what I thought at first too, but they are darker than anyone elses eyes on the team and much more square.[/quote]

I am pretty sure that the “eye black” is the shadow of the cap’s brim. This accounts for it appearing to be square, and it accounts for it looking different on some players (depending on their position in the photo).[/quote]

I spoke to my Dad tonight to get a little more back story on the pictures that are posted. He said in a joking fashion that the guys that usually played for my great-grandfather were pretty big booze hounds,he said that it was probably from the having a long night before the championship game. Which would also explain why the guys had different hats on. Another thing that he cleared up for me was something that you aren’t going to like Paul. He said that the majority of the hats that my grandfather got for the team were purple, only because the high school colors we purple and white.

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I spoke to my Dad tonight to get a little more back story on the pictures that are posted. He said in a joking fashion that the guys that usually played for my great-grandfather were pretty big booze hounds,he said that it was probably from the having a long night before the championship game. Which would also explain why the guys had different hats on. Another thing that he cleared up for me was something that you aren’t going to like Paul. He said that the majority of the hats that my grandfather got for the team were purple, only because the high school colors we purple and white.[/quote]

Those are fantastic pictures, Tim. Thanks to you and your dad for sharing them. I really enjoy looking at the old-timey pictures. Ahhh, those were the days of booze and women….

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You’re kidding me. Those are (are you listening, todd k.?) an abomination! I hope they wear those tomorrow. It would make me feel better…no, it wouldn’t. Never mind.[/quote]

Dallas already discontinued wearing them. Let’s just say that they didn’t sell very well.[/quote]

Gee, I wonder why. What a waste of money. What would you want to do for the NHL?

Chad’s striping issue do not come from his new Revolution helmet, but rather his new orange chinstrap tails that cover the bottom portion of his stripes

I really like the link on those nre Cincinnati jerseys!

And how about that 1869 jersey in the background… are they going to be wearing that?

One thing the Reds need to never, ever bring back is the disgustingly-huge player surnames on the jerseys of the 1970s-80s. Poor Dave Concepcion looked ridiculous! If a jersey has to have surnames, make them small like Baltimore’s.

[quote comment=”26059″]Hockey is in the toilet. A great (I really mean) great game detroy by Stern’s NBA Entertainment lawyer (true).

Since Bettman took over hockey has seen the following catastrophic events:

1. Lost an entire season to a player lockout.
2. Ratings: Down.
3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)
5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.
6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.
7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)
8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.
9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)
10. Canadian market: slipping south.

I used to absolutely adore the great game of hockey. Now you cannot pay me to attend a game and the local team the Blackhawks, an amazing history can’t draw 7,000 fans a game… it’s sad, pathetic tragic and then here comes Reebok…the only outfitter WORSE than NIKE…

Blame the guy at the top, Commissioner Bettman.[/quote]
JMac,
I nominate you as Uni-nation’s ambassador to the NHL. Keep woking on your list for presentation to Bettman. You can go to the league offices in NYC and nail it to their office doors akin to Martin Luther. Think of the changes you could inspire, You Go Boy !

[quote comment=”26125″]whats with those Charlotte helmets? a “C” and then a Bears logo over a star? and a plain “W” for the “Wind?” Love that Southern CA Sun logo tho.[/quote]

The New York Stars up and moved to Charlotte and became the Charlotte Stars, during the season! (Check out the NY 1974 helmet and compare it to the Charlotte 1974 edition).

Hey guys,

I just got and started to read link this morning (Saturday) and the article says that the Leaf logo is changing and that they would be introducing the new Leaf logo at the All-Star Game. Did anyone hear about this beforehand? How about you, Paul?

I’m going to try to repost this comment in the Saturday open thread when it opens this morning.

Paul- I was catching up on your last ESPN column and the part about eye black. It struck me that you should have some UniWatch branded eye strips to go with the rest of the UniWatch catalogue stuff. Yes, I know the tattoos arent really moving but it would be cool to see a set of those eye strips pop up on the NFL network some Sunday.

Who knows, if they were available, UniWatch could become the (un)official sponsor of my son’s NFL flag football team!

Can anyone make out the patch on the Florida jersey? At first i thought it was a patch for the game, but it looks like a Florida helmet and a white helmet.

Any ideas?

Al, the Eagles’ numbers are a bit different; check out the points on the 2 and 6 for Cincinnati (the Eagles don’t have those). There are also curves in places where the Eagles have straight lines. It’s close, but different.