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Uni Watch Exclusive: More NBA Leaks

Last month I had exclusive news on new uni designs being developed for the Nets and Hornets. The same source who provided me with that scoop recently got back in touch with more NBA news, this time regarding a bunch of new uniforms to which he’s had access.

Just like last time, it’s not clear whether these new designs are prototypes, or still in development, or what. No visuals, either — just descriptions. Here’s what my source saw:

• There was a sleeved Warriors jersey in very dark gray, with a dark gray logo on the front and yellow numbers.

• There was another sleeved Warriors jersey (Golden State is apparently trying to set some kind of record in this category), this time in black with red and gold trim, and with Chinese characters on the front where the uni number would normally be.

• There was also a Magic jersey that’s essentially the same as their current home jersey, but in gray and with sleeves.

• And there was a new edition of the Raptors’ original purple uniform — a throwback for next season, perhaps..?

• My source also saw what appeared to be the 2015 All-Star warm-ups. They were black and white, had hoods, and basically had what my source describes as “a boxing look” (which would make sense, because next season’s All-Star Game is being played at Madison Square Garden, which still likes to call itself “the Mecca of Boxing,” even though it was long ago supplanted by Vegas in that regard). The sleeves had patches on the arms for personal achievements — MVP, Rookie of the Year, etc.

• Related to the above: There was also a Lakers jersey and a Bulls jersey. Standard tank tops, no sleeves. The Lakers design was very dark gray with a white wordmark and numbers, and the Bulls design was a light silver with red letters and numbers. For reasons not worth explaining here, my source thinks these could be the templates for next year’s All-Star uniforms. If so, that would mean the league is doing something similar to the All-Star concepts recently proposed by Uni Watch reader Scott Moody (but Scott’s color choices for the two conferences were a lot better than dark gray and light silver).

Finally, my source also saw a bunch of new WNBA uniforms for next season, each with a racer-back design and team names on the back but no uni numbers or NOBs, and also Nobody cares.

That’s all we have for now. Further details as they become available.

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PermaRec update: An old passport that once belonged to Marvin Gaye (the photo from which is shown at right) was recently found inside an LP that someone purchased for 50 cents! More details on that, and some additional thoughts on old passports, in the latest entry on the Permenant Record blog.

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Baseball News: The Reds’ Mr. Red character has traditionally been shown wearing No. 27, but no explanation for that has ever been given. Now Todd Radom has found the story behind the story. Great job, Todd! … Speaking of Mr. Red, here’s a T-shirt showing him with Pete Rose’s head. “Best haircut in baseball history,” says Greg Hotopp. … The Hanshin Tigers will wear green for their Ultra Tigers Summer 2014 special campaign (from Jeremy Brahm). … Brian Gross picked up a few old baseball magazines and came up with some good photos, including a Brooklyn Dodgers satin uni shot, a view of an interesting Cardinals jacket, and a a simple but beautiful Indians shot. … Speaking of old photos, Bruce Menard sent in a very nice team portrait of the 1927 Tigers in their tiger-head road uniforms. … Yesterday was the anniversary of the unveiling of the Astros’ blue/gold uni set. “A day that shall live in infamy,” says David Wilson. … John English saw this Hollywood Stars exhibit at an L.A. farmers’ market, of all places. … New logo for the Wilmington Sharks. … Here’s one of the best, clearest photos I’ve ever seen of the Astros’ old space-suited grounds crew (big thanks, Brinke). … The good news is that the Rays are outfitting 70 Tampa-area tee ball leagues with uniforms. The bad news is that 12 of the 18 jersey options are either flag-desecration or GI Joe. Tee ball seems a tad young for jingoism, no? ”¦ The Royals have a cool new billboard (thanks, Brinke). ”¦ Craig MacHenry was at a local Goodwill and found an old cap from the Brisbane Bandits of the Australian Baseball League. “That logo is from ’89 but it has a great ’70s feel,” he says.

NFL News: Former Giants backup QB Jared Lorenzen — aka the Hefty Lefty, the Round Mound of Touchdown, and other weight-related sobriquets — is now playing in an arena league, and the uniform looks pretty weird on him (thanks, Phil). … Yesterday’s Seattle Times included a back-page Macy’s ad that showed Seahawks WR Golden Tate without any logos or numbers. “Just like the old days,” says Scott M.X. Turner. … Gil Neumann spotted this Seahawks-themed semi while driving home from lunch yesterday.

Hockey News: Henrik Lundqvist’s Stadium Series mask is up for auction (from Chris Flinn). … The South Carolina Stingrays are going Pink in the Rink (thanks, Phil). ”¦ Here’s the Canadiens’ new acquisition, Dale Weise. “That 22 on his helmet looks weird,” says Mike Engle. “They used to use Helvetica for the helmet numbers, and it isn’t that. Then they recently switched to a sticker font that matches the jersey number font, and it definitely isn’t that either, because they use diagonal 2s. Weird.”

Soccer News: Here are some redesign concepts for the Columbus Crew (from Kevin Mueller). … Five Brazilian club teams have new third jerseys honoring the Brazlian national team (thanks, Phil). … New York’s new MLS team is having a logo design contest (from Francis Fay). … I’ll go out on a limb and say that Iran is probably going to be the first World Cup team to have a cheetah on its jerseys. Can the Cheetos jersey ad be far behind? … New kit for Real Salt Lake (from Karson Kalian). … Color-vs.-color is one thing, but Chelsea and Manchester City went blue-vs.-blue on Monday (from Yusuke Toyoda). … Also from Yusuke: Everton is switching from Nike to Umbro. … “Was looking through some of my old soccer programs from my days of going to Minnesota Kicks games and came across this Pro Keds ad,” says Jimmy Lonetti. “If I ever came across a pair of these on eBay or something, I think I’d have to break the bank. Wonder if they made them for other NASL teams?” Hmmmm, anyone know? ”¦ Everything from here to the end of the soccer section is from Trevor Williams: Among World Cup nations, new kits for Brazil, Ecuador, and Costa Rica (home and away). For non-Cup nations, new kits for New Zealand, Turkey, Slovenia, Poland, and Zambia. And among club teams, new kits for Liverpool, Real Madrid, Galatasaray, Man U, Ceará Sporting Club, Club Guaraní, Palmeiras, Millonarios, Recreativo de Huelva, and Alianza Lima.

NBA News: Nike has a new line of NBA player caps (from Phil). ”¦ Paul Lee was at Target and noticed two NBA basketballs for sale with the same UPC code but different designs.

College Hoops News: Villanova went GFGS on Monday. … Pink uniforms this Saturday for the Colorado State women’s team (thanks, Phil).

Olympics News: Nike is bringing the glove-palm salute to the Winter Games. Grrreeeeaaaaat (thanks, Phil). … Also from Phil: Here’s one observer’s ranking of the 10 best Olympic figure skating costumes. … Excellent piece on Olympic mascots. ”¦ Here’s a good gallery of Team USA opening ceremony outfits through the years (Phil again).

Grab Bag: What if famous brands used cartoon characters as their mascots? This (from Gordon Blau). … Kenn Tomasch was watching an old episode of Battle of the Network Stars and spotted actor Doug McKeon with a very awkward-looking McNOB. … Aussie football news from Leo Strawn Jr., who writes: “Here’s the St. Kilda Saints’ new preseason jumper. The club made an open call to designers and then the finalists’ designs were voted on by the public. The stick figure was their actual logo in the ’70s and ’80s, but my understanding is that the club quit using that logo due to a lawsuit over this logo from the 1960s TV series The Saint.” … Here’s a nice proposal for rebranding the Italian city of Bologna (from Ben Fortney). … Check out the little icons on the New York State Adventure License. Very cool (from the New Girl). … Got a note yesterday from Brinke, with the subject line “This just seems like a Paul story.” Sure enough — it’s about ketchup packet design! Don’t miss. … CNBC set up a curling sheet in their lobby (from Gordon Blau). ”¦ New trophy for the World Volleyball Championships (from Jeremy Brahm).

 
  
 
Comments (137)

    The “nobody cares” comment regarding the WNBA is really frustrating. I doubt I’m the only one, but at least one person cares.

    Second that.

    As a female and dedicated Uni Watch reader, I find this very disappointing. Sure, the WNBA isn’t the world’s biggest sporting league, but isn’t this site all about the small details? My impression is that the ethos of this site is a socially progressive one, so I don’t understand the need to be so dismissive of a female sports league.

    Has nothing to do with gender. If those had been uniforms from the D-League (which, like the WNBA, is subsidiary of the NBA), I would have done the same thing. The point is that those uniforms don’t have the same status or import as everything else in today’s lede.

    I run WNBA news (and D-League news) in the Ticker whenever it comes up.

    The D-League/WNBA analogy isn’t quite right. The WNBA is, in theory, the highest-level women’s league (along with the European leagues where many of the top women ply their trade in the winter months). The D-League is by definition a minor league.

    Okay, so why not put this WNBA info into the ticker as opposed to the lede? Some people do care about D League and WNBA news, and that way this content wouldn’t need to be derided with the “nobody cares” refrain.

    Yeah, I could have done that, but it was part of the same info that was provided by the same source.

    Literally: I was compiling all the info that the source gave me, and as I was typing up that last graf I thought to myself, “Nobody’s gonna care about this the same way they care about all the other leaks.” Like, I was using a big “Uni Watch Exclusive!” hed, but the last graf wasn’t the kind of news that would normally justify that kind of treatment. So I did the strike-thru thing.

    Was it cavalier? Yeah.

    As long as you knew you were going to catch some flak for it, fair play. Unfortunately, the market has decided the value of the highest-ranking league of women’s professional teams, and it’s somewhere between major-league soccer and major-league lacrosse. As such, it’s likely appropriate the uniforms all follow one or two templates, and teams sold the fronts of their jerseys to the highest bidders. Oh, sure, they could turn the uniforms into masterpieces, but the return on their investment of money and effort wouldn’t warrant it.

    The context makes the implication of dismissal on the basis of gender unavoidable, even if it’s not intended (which I trust it’s not). Why write the text, strike it out, and add a “Nobody cares” comment? That doesn’t communicate an assessment of the lower status of the WNBA versus the NBA; it communicates the writer’s desire to be seen ridiculing the WNBA. And we all know that the widespread ridicule NBA fans shower on the WNBA is because it’s the equivalent of the D-League and has nothing to do with gender, right? Anyone who buys that, I’ve got a theory about how “Redskins” demonstrates honor and respect for American Indians to sell you.

    If nobody cares, don’t include the info. If the info doesn’t belong alongside NBA content, put it elsewhere.

    If nobody cares, don’t include the info. If the info doesn’t belong alongside NBA content, put it elsewhere.

    That’s a perfectly logical, sensible critique.

    But sometimes it’s more fun to be cavalier.

    I realize that I myself generally trade in logical, sensible critiques, and that cherrypicking the junctures when we get to be cavalier is an intellectually weak approach. Guilty as charged. But it was still more fun this way. And I’ve enjoyed seeing the response it generated (although that wasn’t my intent).

    Funny is funny, and that was funny. Not everyone is going to laugh at every joke, but I’m sure the majority gave at least a grin.

    Just because Paul took a jab at the WNBA doesn’t take away from your enjoyment of it. Not everyone has to like everything you like, and you don’t have to like everything everyone else likes.

    What surprises me is that there was more than 1 person here who was willing to admit thy enjoy the WNBA. See that? I took a jab.

    If only there was a WNHL to take similar jabs at! At the NCAA level, I prefer to watch the women’s game. Flows better; you often see more refined formation play.

    If you want to go into a discussion of women’s sports, that’s fine by me. But I repeat: If the uniforms in question had been from the D-League instead of the WNBA, I would have done the exact same thing. And most likely nobody would have said a peep.

    And that’s fine — women are a marginalized class, so it makes sense that references to them in the media should receive heightened scrutiny, like the scrutiny I’m getting right now. All fair game.

    See the thing is, I think a lot of the people that come here view it as a fun, informative and somewhat informal site, and the writer has some personal quirks (purple, redskins) that are his (on his website) and unless you’re brand new here and a huge redskins fan you’re going to accept them as his opinions.

    So when he basically says fuck you to anyone who cares about the WNBA, it is a bit unexpected and a pretty big WTF for people who actually do care. Are there people who read this site that care about the WNBA? Sure. Do I? No. Do I care that he said nobody cares? No I got a chuckle out of it and wondered how soon the shitstream would start and it didn’t take long. Was it appropriate? It probably was.

    It’s probably just a surprise though when folks who’ve been coming here for a longtime and enjoy the somewhat informative and somewhat unbiased opinion are suddenly jolted that the guy they’ve come to respect doesn’t give a shit about a sport they care about.

    I don’t really follow the WNBA, but I would be interested in uni changes because the racer back look is a rare innovation in bball uniforms. The racer back seems like a natural evolution of the uniform as opposed to sleeves.

    I would like to see or have a discussion about the WNBA uniforms, mostly because the majority of them have ads on them and how the new “racer back” affects that.
    Also, I believe the ad thing is a glimpse into the NBA’s future uniforms (regarding ads).

    Racerbacks have become nearly ubiquitous in women’s field hockey, principally at the behest of the players themselves.
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    The t-shirt jersey, for all the musculature it conceals, is fast becoming an anachronism much like the traditional button-down shirt/plaid kilt look.
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    No one cares about HBCU sports on this site either, but I don’t get upset. The site is for those fans of major pro/college sports. No need to get upset that fun is made of something you care about.

    Actually I didn’t read any of today’s lede (descriptions of alternate basketball jerseys with sleeves?) No thanks. I skipped over it but did read the struckthrough text because I find the revisions to the columns interesting. Nobody cares? Not where I would have went but hey, the strikethrough got me to read something I wouldn’t have in the first place.

    I did the same. The strikethrough caught my eye so I read it.

    I still don’t care about the WNBA, or the NBA for that matter. Or soccer, now that someone else mentioned it…

    I thought it was funny.

    I thought it was funny. I always delight in the type of humor in which 95% of the listeners/readers chuckle and 5% are outraged with the upmost righteous indignation.

    Me too.

    I’d rather Paul left out the comment entirely rather than choose to be snide (for no particular reason, to boot).

    My 2 cents.

    Lee

    I agree. Seems like a little extra effort to type out the sentence, strike through it, and type Nobody cares. It ain’t lifting bricks, but I think you know what I mean.

    Why bother at all? It’s a site about uniforms/logos/etc. But he chides an entire professional league because “nobody cares”?

    Yet there is a link to the South Carolina Stingray hockey team simply because they are going pink? Talk about nobody caring….

    I see now that he struck through because it wasn’t an “important” league, but at first pass thru by me, I thought it was because it was women’s sports. (Which I did find odd, from him).
    I am sure part of my reaction was that the attitude towards the WNBA is so negative in general, I thought he was pandering to that demographic as well.

    Whatever.

    Lee

    Agree with the “nobody cares” frustration. Just like on Sunday when it was celebrated that this is Seattle’s first sports title since the SuperSonics, all the while their WNBA team has won 2 titles. Women matter in sports whether you like it or not. People DO “care”. No need to generalize a small group of folks to be the norm when you’re doing the same with your push for a name change in DC.

    I got a submission on the Ticker! First time! Even though it says ‘Gary Hotopp’ instead of ‘Greg Hotopp’, I’ll take it! And I think I’ll order that Pete Rose shirt this afternoon. it’s actually a pretty ingenious design.

    Greg, I designed and printed that Pete Rose shirt. I’m a little late to the game here but just wanted to say thanks for the nice words. I’d be happy to print one up for you!

    Those Man U & Galatasaray shirts aren’t match kits, rather they are training kits/warm-up shirts

    Also, DHL is the training gear sponsor, not Aon. And by the time those unis are produced, Chevrolet will have replaced Aon on match uniforms too. Not that it all matters too much, since they’re all mockups.

    The boxing style warmup are going to go over well with the kind of folks who use the word “thug” to describe NBA players.

    Former Giants backup QB Jared Lorenzen is now playing in an arena league

    Actually, that’s an indoor league. They play with different rules than “Arena” football, and are much lower budget.

    Also, bad link in the Olympic section of the ticker.

    Paul, regarding that Warriors jersey, when you say “Chinese characters on the front where the uni number would normally be”, were the characters in fact numbers?

    The numbers 0 through 5 look like this: 〇 一 二 三 四 五

    And 6 through 9, look like this: 六 七 八 九

    You can either write or omit the powers of 10 (十), so 24 can be either 二十四 or 二四.

    I’d be there on day one if a jersey with Chinese numerals on it were actually made.

    Those Liverpool kits aren’t the “official” kits as of yet. Those have been floating around for a few weeks. The guy who made them was pretty close with his designs last year. He has also made about 3 other sets for Liverpool. No word from Warrior yet on what the kits will look like.

    My wife loves the new Heinz ketchup packets so much, she bought a case of them. There is no ketchup bottle in our house anymore!

    (ketchup? …catsup? …ketchup? …catsup?)

    I think it’s ketchup if you’re talking Heinz. IIRC it was Hunt’s that always called it catsup, which always sounded weird to me.

    Yay! I submitted that (or was at least one person who submitted that)!

    Glad that people are enjoying it!

    Wasn’t the actor Philip McKeon (not Doug) – from Alice; also the brother of Nancy – from Facts of Life?

    I wish Adidas would JUST STOP. I’ve probably posted this same rant before, but as much as traditionalists like myself have objected to certain of Nike’s work (and business practices) through the years, it is so much more frustrating to see Adidas (and its Reebok brand in the NHL) continue to roll out designs that look like Nike’s Junior Varsity. In my opinion, the creativity level at Adidas is severely wanting, and it kills me that two of the big four pro leagues, plus a substantial number of colleges, are subject to their subpar product.

    PS — I wonder how a Chinese “ethnic appreciation night” uniform (assuming that’s the explanation for the Warriors duds) featuring red and yellow will play in the Chinese-American community. The flag of the People’s Republic is fraught with symbolism, and it’s the red, white and blue flag of the Republic of China that flies over some Chinatowns…

    Not excusing the NBA and the respective teams at all. My overarching beef is with Adidas because their less-than-inspired designs are the common denominator with so many poorly executed uniforms throughout the NBA, NHL and NCAA. At some point, where there are many dozens of teams and several leagues/conferences involved, the critical finger must point at the company that conceives (or at least plays a large role in conceiving) and executes the product we see on the field/court/ice.

    The problem with my initial “JUST STOP” post was the suggestion that Adidas is behind the proliferation of sleeved jerseys and shades of gray. In each case, the NBA (as to the sleeves) and some combination of actors (as to the gray) deserve to share in the “blame” for my dissatisfaction.

    At the end of the day, I’m just not a big fan of the product that Adidas/Reebok puts out (the shortcomings of which seem glaringly obvious to me when held up against competing manufacturers at the college level), and I find it frustrating that that particular design team has a monopoly on the NBA and NHL. That is all.

    I can’t imagine there’d be any backlash to the red and yellow. Yes, they’re PRC’s national colors, but they’re also festive colors.

    To wit, the Lunar New Year celebration in DC is organized by the Taiwanese community here, which is always awkward because of PRC’s diplomatic presence, so you see the ROC flags, but otherwise, red and yellow are everywhere.

    No more so than I’m giving college football news a rest. There were no items to report today in those categories, so they’re not included. When there’s news to report, they’ll reappear.

    Paul, bad link error in Olympic news ticker…

    “Here’s a good gallery of link USA opening ceremony outfits through the years (Phil again).”

    The Hollywood Stars Exhibit is at the Farmers Market in Los Angeles, which is near the former site of the Stars’ home ball park, Gilmore Field.

    The site of Gilmore Field is now CBS Television Studios (Tonight Show, Price is Right).
    And it is only a long home run from there to the Farmers Market.

    And though it’s called the “Farmer’s Market,” it’s more of a public market in the vein of Seattle’s Pike Place Market or Cleveland’s West Side Market.

    Gilmore Stadium, a football and auto-racing venue, was just to the west of Gilmore Field, and just to the east was the Pan Pacific Auditorium.

    Re: that stupid Nike glove thing: The Olympics should do what college football did a few years ago and penalize(/disqualify) people for doing the god-awful Nike corporate salute with those gloves.

    My father and his friends actually owned the Brisbane Bandits. They won the rights to sell all Australian League merchandise in the U.S. That very hat was probably in the back of my dad’s Infiniti SUV at some point.

    “… Here’s a nice proposal for rebranding the Italian city of Bologna (from Ben Fortney). …”

    Very interesting. I like the type font a lot.

    those leaked nets uniforms look sweet. i like when teams have unique uniforms. i wish the heat would just go back to those aba uniforms beacuse their different.

    “Nobody cares” was weak. Uni-watch itself can be derided as a “nobody cares” site, so it really to see you going there.
    It’s like a fat kid making fun of someone else for being just as fat: misplaced, unnecessary, and rude.

    “The Curious Resurgence of Pogs”

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    If we can expand “sports” a bit to include tabletop gaming, then this is a fascinating intersection of sports design and the GI Joe trend.

    I’m not sure how much yellow counts for color-vs-color. So many schools do that at home now that it’s almost an extension of white. Still, that does look pretty cool with tOSU’s red unis.

    That Columbus Crew rebranding work is terrific; really hope the team works with this guy to implement his ideas.

    I disagree.
    I liked the thought he put in, and walking us through the process, but the end product (especially the badge) left me “meh”.

    Lee

    as a crew supporter, i’m even less impressed than you are, lee…i didn’t like the logo redesign at all…

    What do you think of the SJ Earthquakes re-brand? (They are my MLS club).
    I really like their uniforms, not so thrilled with their badge though.

    Lee

    As a Crew-guy too, I enjoy MWillis’ design work. Not a huge fan of the Crew mockup crest, but he did incredible work and thought for this project. I do support involving him in the design work, it could be interesting to see where they could go with it. I think the “identity” that he’s developed could work.

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; a crest can be a logo, but a logo is not always a crest. I enjoy the Crew logo mockup, but would prefer more of a crest.

    I liked the design, but his description of Columbus – I doubt he’s ever been there. Neither have I, but calling a city of 750k or so ‘medium-sized’? Is he on crack? And a fifteen-year old stadium is hardly ‘aging’. Maybe it isn’t Red Bull Arena or Jeld-Wen Field, but it isn’t exactly falling apart is it?

    Well, in terms of “bells and whistles,” it is falling apart. It doesn’t have all the “new” stuff that some may expect from stadiums. But, depending on what you mean by “falling apart” too…there was an awful scoreboard fire during a match last year.

    Could you imagine that happening during a World Cup qualifier? Crew Stadium did host two of them in 2012-2013. That is embarrassing. Now, I know it can happen at any age of stadium, but nothing has been upgraded since the stadium was built.

    Not uni related, but feels like a good Uni Watch tangent

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    I have NEVER heard that I should only use 1 space after a period. Highschool, college, 5+ years of professional work/roles and I’ve never even heard this mentioned. Posted the link to FB and received lots of responses from communications, marketing, and law friends of mine informing me that 1 space is correct. Paradigm shift.

    If 1 space is correct, should MS Word flag double spaces the same way it flags extra spaces between words?

    Not asking this to be an ass, Adam, but how young are you? Older word processing software actually required 2 spaces after periods.

    I prefer one space, to be honest. It looks neat and tidy.

    No assiness detected Teebz. I’ll be 30 this year. (gulp) A couple of the friends involved in the discussion also swear they were told in school to put one space after a comma and two spaces after a period. So, is this a correct vs. incorrect issue? Or a preference issue like the Oxford comma?

    I believe it may have been limitations on software before. I also have heard that people used to double-space on typewriters “way back when” in order to give a proper break between sentence.

    Because typewriters are set to “monospace” for each character – that is, each character, including spaces, occupies the same space on the page – a double-space would indicated a better break between sentences.

    Old word processing programs were of the same thought process – monospaced characters – and people continued to use the process to make things look proper.

    With new and unique fonts introduced later in the life of the computer, the double-space fell to the wayside as improvements to the way we print fixed the double-spacing.

    Is it wrong? No. It’s just antiquated. :o)

    Also, one space is the acceptable norm. Lots of people – my mom, for example – still double-spaces everything after periods because of her job in data entry way back when.

    It’s annoying as all hell when copying something out of her emails to me. lol

    All the pleadings, motions, memoranda, correspondence, etc., that I file (or have seen filed)and/or decisions, entries and orders I receive always have two (2) spaces after a period.

    I use two spaces after a period. That’s what I was taught in typing class way back when. *ding*

    Old habits die hard, I reckon.

    I believe I learned the 1-space technique in 2009. Up until then, for me, it was 2-space.

    Since then, I have tried to instill the same habit in others who may not know.

    In this overly pc world we live in its sad a writer cannot make a tongue in cheek joke about the WNBA. If it’s made about a white male, no one would care.

    He can make his tongue in cheek comment. No one is stopping him. Nor are we trying to.

    On the other hand, we get to express our disappointment with him for doing it.

    That’s America baby.

    Lee

    Who said Paul “can’t make a … joke”? Some of us just didn’t think it was a good joke. Does your ideal non-“PC” world require everyone to find every joke equally funny? Paul is allowed to crack a joke. We’re allowed to find it funny or not. And whether we do or not, we’re allowed to say so. That’s not “PC,” that’s freedom of speech. That’s liberty.

    And what do “white males” have anything to do with a WNBA vs NBA joke? Have you seen the NBA? (Joke! Which you’re obliged to find hilarious and not complain about, because you wouldn’t want to be PC, right? [Also a joke!])

    Paul is absolutely free to make his joke. Everybody else is absolutely free to respond in a manner they see fit, whether that be support or opposition. And the government never gets involved. That’s how free speech works. It is not “I said this and no one can respond or criticize it because I have the right to say it,” which seems to be a widely held view for some reason.

    Pretty much every complaint about “PC run amok” translates to “I don’t know why the joke didn’t land, so I’ll blame the people who didn’t find it funny” or “Please stop pointing out that certain words or actions make people look like jerks.”

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I’ve never understood the hatred for the Astros navy uni set.

    Granted, I’m impartial, the midnight/gold cap is still one of my favorite caps in the collection, but hear me out.

    In the mid-90s almost every baseball team that redesigned was going “faux-retro,” the Astros didn’t follow the pack, and updated to a modern style that stayed true to their “futuristic” identity. Yes they eliminated the orange, but they moved to a metallic that is a color much more associated with space. They moved from a mishmash of 1970s, 1980s looks – which is what the early 90s uni had become – and went totally modern. Plus, the main logo kept an homage to the Astrodome.

    Not to mention that they were successful during the time period, and 2 HOFers (and 1 almost HOFers) wore the look.

    Take a look at what came link and link that set. Hell, take a look at the ‘Stros link. Was link worthy of the scorn heaped upon it? IMHO, no.

    (I will concede that the link was a little too much, but I stick to my other points.)

    I basically agree. I’ve always thought that Astros set was flat-out ugly, in the sense of, “Do I think it looks pretty or not?” But trying to consider it objectively, I have to say it was well designed. It was a sound idea for the team.

    Of course, I also think the set that followed was under-appreciated and actually more space-appropriate than most people give it credit for, so what do I know?

    The Astros have unique branding issues which complicate the job of the interested graphic designer. Never mind that they switched leagues: the look most identified with the team is one that tends to be a source of derision. You find love for the tequila sunrise duds on this website; it’s harder to come by in the rank-&-file world where the Yankees and Dodgers are deified. The 1992 redesign was looked upon as the owner running from the rainbow motif as completely as he could. In a vacuum, the uniforms were nice, if a little staid. But on these pages it seems the mood is for the ‘Stros to own their history and embrace it. A few bits of branding gold are uniquely theirs: the rainbow pattern (in a baseball surrounding), the five-pointed star (ditto) and the space travel theme. The gold-&-navy years yielded a good cap insignia and nice jersey graphics, not to mention the Astrodome patch. But they screwed up the grey jersey script the final year. They could have finessed the gold star into the lettering better.

    I always thought the Astros should have had gold lame pants for Saturday night games.

    Guess Warriors didn’t get that Chinese New Years jersey approved. It was supposed to be for last nights game….

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    When i was an undergrad, we were taught it was 1 space in newspapers and 2 spaces for academic writing.

    Actually viewed the figure skating costumes and was reminded of the crush I had on Dorothy Hamill while in high school.

    Have a “Referral Denied” when clicking on the link for “this logo from the 1960s TV series The Saint” in the etc section.

    Shame, I do like the red alts (i have a sweet Smoltz one), I was hoping with the release of their throwback diamond cap that we’d get a 1974 style jersey, still hanging on to that thought. Bring back the feathers!

    Given all the ways MLB has uglified uniforms to “appreciate” the military, this may be the one I like best. It has, glaring red shirt notwithstanding, a touch of restraint and elegance. Compared to pretty much all of MLB’s other “stars and stripes” and camo unis. Grading on the curve here.

    Anyway, the real test is not, “Does this look awesome?” It’s, “Would you rather they wore this, or digital camo lettering?” I’ll take this every time.

    ““Would you rather they wore this, or digital camo lettering?” I’ll take this every time.”

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    How about they just wear their regular, standard, white jersey? You know, the one that is probably the top 5 best looking jerseys is all of baseball?

    I know, I know, the “we’re going to have as many damn alternates as we please so don’t even bother to fight us” horse has long left the barn. I just see absolutely NO NEED for this jersey.

    Anyway, the real test is not, “Does this look awesome?” It’s, “Would you rather they wore this, or digital camo lettering?”

    That’s setting the bar waaaaaay too low. Applying that standard accepts, and therefore legitimizes, the notion that a “military appreciation” jersey is appropriate in the first place (which it is not).

    A military appreciation jersey not less appropriate than a Latino Heritage jersey or a Jackie Robinson Day jersey. I like Cerveceros jerseys and Negro League throwbacks and the like, so I can’t object to military appreciation jerseys as such. I just wish they didn’t suck so much, and the Braves jersey very much doesn’t suck as much as MLB’s recent average.

    Alternatively, I guess I could get all outraged and be like, “A team substituting blue lettering with white stars on its jersey to show support for the troops? An outrage without link in the link of link!”

    “A military appreciation jersey not less appropriate than a Latino Heritage jersey or a Jackie Robinson Day jersey.”

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    You’re right. It’s not. But god forbid anyone by the Yankees and Tigers (I think that’s it now, right?) should be the only teams with just a home and away jersey.

    I’m not saying EVERY team should only have home and away (I can dream though), but none of these alternates is necessary.

    But because a military jersey is no less appropriate than a Latino or JRR jersey, that doesn’t make it appropriate.

    Wouldn’t a Jackie Robinson jersey be just a little more appropriate since he actually played baseball?

    A military appreciation jersey not less appropriate than a Latino Heritage jersey or a Jackie Robinson Day jersey.

    In a vacuum, this is true.

    But we don’t live in a vacuum. We live in a world where sports teams relentlessly celebrate the military to the near-exclusion of all other sectors of society. And that is wrong.

    Not all soldiers are heroes, not all heroes are soldiers.

    My son just moved from the Little League by our old house to another league affiliated with Cal Ripken Baseball. The new league has a sponsorship with the Diamondbacks for their uniforms (I’m in the Phx area). As a coach, I was provided with a .pdf to chose which uniform choice I wanted for our team.
    There were options for red, white, black, or gray with the style of the current Diamondbacks jerseys. There were also throwback options with the old purple & teal colors. We could choose from black, white, or gray throwbacks.
    Finally, there were options with the current style jerseys with camo lettering, and then a green jersey with the current lettering.
    All of the options made sense (even the camo – kids like that crap)…but I didn’t get the green one. I don’t recall the Diamondbacks ever wearing green…I don’t think they even do the St. Patty’s day gimmick in spring training.

    Estate sale, eh? Perhaps liberated from the Donovan Building (Motown offices) before the City of Detroit, for show, demolished vacant buildings downtown prior to hosting the Super Bowl. Another guy went in and saved a bunch of stuff and gave it to the Burton Historical Collection of the Detroit Public Library.
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    From the article:
    “Every time a corporation uses a veteran to shill its goods, the dignity of service is eroded . . .

    We are your warfighters . . . We are not broken objects to be pitied at a safe distance.

    And we are not your goddamn beer salesmen.”

    Far more discussion of someone dissing the WNBA than the WNBA usually gets for being….a basketball league.

    I have no beef with the WNBA. I try to go to the local team’s game once a season or so. They have one of the best players in the world – male or female – and I spotted the high-profile rookie last summer skateboarding through downtown late one night. They’re cool. I like watching them play. I don’t go religiously or anything, but I think they have a place and don’t necessarily deserve scorn and ridicule.

    That said, it’s Paul’s site and Paul explained why he wrote what he did, and you can get all huffy about it or we can all move on.

    “If only there was a WNHL to take similar jabs at”

    Wow what an annoying comment!

    Do people actually sit around just looking and waiting to think or better yet write a negative comment?

    Such negativity will get you nowhere.

    Rare sighting in the opening ceremony outfit gallery: in the 1960 Squaw Valley photo the team is carrying a 49 Star Flag

    Amazing Columbus Crew Re-brand! What thought and planning into a concept like that. It all looks great, I Love the diamond shape logo hearkening to a construction/hazmat sign. I hope that whole design gets picked up by the Crew. Although I agree that the Logo isn’t exactly a “Crest” but it still looks great!

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