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Timelessly Representing the Ballclub, PAC-12 Edition


By Phil Hecken

I’m back again today with another installment of the popular “Timelessly Representing” series. Last weekend we looked at the NCAA’s B1G (Big 10), and today we’ll look at the PAC-12.

Originally envisioned for baseball, several readers have submitted their thoughts on which uniform and stadium (or arena/building) would serve as a “snapshot,” if you will, of a club’s perfect uniform and home, if one were to consider a team’s entire history. It’s subjective, of course, and very likely can be heavily influenced by the ballclubs and stadia from a particular reader’s childhood, although this is not necessarily the case. But based on the more recent vintage chosen of both team and building, it seems like one’s formative years play a role in this.

We’ve now tackled MLB, the NFL, the NBA, the CFL, and the NHL — if you’d like to check those out, here are NBA, Part I; NBA, Part II NFL, NFC Edition; NFL AFC Edition; MLB, National League Edition; MLB, American League Edition, the CFL, NHL, Part I, NHL, Part II, and NCAA B1G Conference.

I’m pleased now to bring you UW reader Geoffrey J. Magliocchetti, who, like several others, compiled this list during the summer — I had hoped to get to these during Paul’s blog-cation, but I was just overwhelmed with reader suggestions for articles. Now that it’s deep in the heart of football season, I’ll continue to run those I received for the NCAA. Keep in mind that I received this near the end of July, so some of the costumes uniforms the teams currently sport may not even have been considered (although those wouldn’t yet be “timeless” would they)?

So let’s get started with Geoffrey’s …

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Looks of the PAC 12
By Geoffrey J. Magliocchetti

The Pacific-12 conference has been sponsoring football since 1916, known simply as the Pacific Coast Conference. For the 1959 season, the conference adapted the complicated name of the Athletic Association of Western Universities, but nine years later, the name was thankfully simplified to the Pacific 8. Two Arizona schools joined in 1978, with the conference appropriately becoming the Pac-10. The additions of Colorado and Utah made it the Pac-12, showing that the conference has a much better grasp of counting than the Big 10.

Each team have the Pac-12, even it’s newest members, has built a sense of identity and culture through their looks and performances. What follows is a visual history of the most memorable looks in the conference’s illustrious history of uniforms and stadiums.



Uniforms2000’s home uniform/Current

Arizona has always been better known as a basketball school. Wildcats football enjoyed a period of prosperity under Dick Tomey from 1987-98, the epitome of which was a shocking 29-0 victory over Miami in the 1994 Fiesta Bowl. After a 12-1 campaign in 1998, however, the team went through ten consecutive bowl-less seasons, and was the verge of falling of the map entirely. However, Mike Stoops and QB Nick Foles put the program back on track, and the team started getting national recognition again.

StadiumArizona Stadium

The revitalization of the Wildcats football program called for a $72 million expansion project, which broke ground in 2011. The new look will debut this season. The Tuscon facility now boasts the football offices, a weight training area, a cafeteria for student athletes, and the fourth largest video screen in college football. The stadium also expanded its capacity by over 4,000.


Arizona State

Uniforms1990’s home uniform

Sun Devils fans have never really gotten over the demotion of Sparky, the pitchfork wielding demon that graced the Sun Devils’ helmets until 2010, from primary to alternate logo. ASU football spent straight holiday seasons watching the bowl games at home, until Jake “The Snake” Plummer led the Sun Devils back to the Rose Bowl, all with Sparky on his side. The fact that ASU had gained the reputation off the biggest party school in America over the 90’s and 2000’s only made their representation by Sparky all the more appropriate.

StadiumSun Devil Stadium

Now that the stadium’s other illustrious tenants (the Fiesta Bowl and the Arizona Cardinals) have moved on to University of Phoenix stadium in Glendale, the Sun Devils rule the enormous Tempe facility, which currently houses all of ASU’s athletic offices. In addition to hosting Super Bowl XXX and currently the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl (sadly this game always had a corporate sponsor), SDS has also built up quite the filmography, appearing in films like Jerry Maguire and Raising Arizona.



Uniforms1980’s home uniform

The band was out on the field, but so were these timeless duds that the Golden Bears have been best known for their traditional blue unis at home. 1982, the year The Play occurred, was a transition for Cal uniforms, which had returned to their traditional Yale blue color that season.Throughout the 1970’s the Golden Bears had combined a lighter shade of blue with a yellow helmet that went out of style around 1975.

StadiumMemorial Stadium

Memorial Stadium was erected in 1923 as a way to pay tribute to soldiers of World War I. The project cost $1.4 million, a ridiculous price for a collegiate stadium at the time, but opened in time for the Cal-Stanford game, a 9-0 Golden Bears win that capped off a 9-0-1 season. However, the Stadium’s best feature isn’t even inside, rather coming from the form of Tightwad Hill, which rises 100 feet above the east side of the stadium, where Golden Bears fans have enjoyed free views of games for years. Also visible from Tightwad Hill are the UC campus, downtown Berkeley, and part of the San Francisco Bay.



Uniforms2000’s home/current

The Buffalos made a valiant effort to separate themselves from the black trend in college football with some blue “Colorado sky” jerseys, but CU football was in desperate need of a makeover after they went from 1979-84 with just 14 wins. Head coach Bill McCartney, who helped the team out its funk, was largely the one to blame…or thank…for phasing blue out of the Buffalos’ repertoire. By 1988, blue was completely out of the uniform, and in 1989, the Buffalos completed an undefeated regular season, and a year later they were national champs in their black uniforms.

StadiumFolsom Field

Originally named Colorado Stadium, the stadium was later dedicated to Fred Folsom, who coached CU football at three separate times during the program’s early years. Located over a mile above sea level, Folsom Field is the third highest field in college football. In 2008, the stadium also became the first “zero waste” stadium in the NCAA for its cleaning and recycling efforts.



UniformsEarly 2000’s home

There is no middle ground on the ridiculousness that is Oregon football’s Nike jersey combinations. I happen to dislike them, but it’s become such a part of the team’s culture that you have to accept it. Oregon’s standard colors are green and yellow, so I’ve selected a jersey that has showcased these colors and has gone without the unnecessary add-ons (like faux-steel and feathers). This uniform comes from their epic 2001 season, just before Nike went out of control with the jerseys.

StadiumAutzen Stadium

The Ducks have had Autzen to call their own since 1967. Originally costing $2.5 million, a measly price for a building like Autzen, the Ducks’ growing success and consistency called for a $90 million renovation plan, which expanded the capacity by over 12,000.


Oregon State

Uniforms2000’s Home Uniform

The Beavers recently said goodbye to a classic look and logo. Many a Civil War has been played with the Beavers dressed in black, and while most teams are guilty of adding black for black’s sake, the Beavers did a great job of owning the color throughout their history. Honorable mention goes to their orange alternate, which made the color of orange enjoyable on a football jersey for a change.

StadiumParker/Reser Stadium

Normally I’m against corporate sponsorships on stadiums, but I’ll make a small exception for Reser’s Fine Foods, which was run by OSU graduates Al and Pat Reser. Charles T Parker, the Portland businessman who strongly backed the stadium’s construction, is still honored on OSU Saturdays, however. Parker Plaza, which is located between Reser and Gill Coliseum, home of OSU hoops, becomes a party zone between September and March.



UniformsCurrent Home

The Cardinal posses a simple look, almost like the Penn State of the West, and a little lighter than Alabama. The team has fallen victim to the Nike Pro Combat disease, but they even mention to keep that look classy.

StadiumStanford Stadium

The Palo Alto landmark underwent a massive renovation in 2006, though the spirit has remained the same. Stanford Stadium has played host to some of the biggest events in sports, which have included several Cardinal games in the past decade. The stadium has played host to a different kind of football, featuring six games in the 1994 World Cup (the final of which was an exciting quarterfinal match where Sweden beat Romania on penalty kicks) and was the alternate home for soccer at the 1984 Olympics. The stadium has also hosted Super Bowl XIX, appropriately won by the San Francisco 49ers, the closest a team has ever come to winning the Super Bowl in their home city.



UniformsCurrent Home

Long before baseball teams like the Royals and Blue Jays were capitalizing on the powder blue look, the Bruins were owning it. A stark contrast from their Los Angeles counterparts, the color has always dominated UCLA’s home uniforms. The jersey, like most jerseys, has been tweaked slightly several times to keep up with the times, but powder blue has always remained a staple. The numbers also went from white to a more positive gold…perhaps a jab at their in-state rival Cal?

StadiumRose Bowl

Unfortunately for Bruins fans, the Rose Bowl has served only as a home stadium over the past decade, not as a postseason destination. With their recent resurgence, the Bruins hope to change that trend soon. Located in the LA suburb of Pasadena, little needs to be said of the events the Rose Bowl has hosted in addition to its bowl game of the same name. The stadium is not only a national historical landmark, but a California Historic Civil Engineering Landmark as well. How many stadiums can say that?




Can you recall a time USC ever went in an alternate uniform? These jerseys manage to look sophisticated and detail without being too complicated. The uniform has also become a symbol of winning and consistency. Once you see those red jerseys entering the playing field, you know you’re in for a challenge, whether the Trojans enter the game 10-0 or 0-10.

StadiumLos Angeles Memorial Coliseum

How much history can you fit in one building? Take a look around. Behind one end zone, you’ll see oversized memorials to the great Trojans of the past like Marcus Allen and Carson Palmer. Raise your gaze just a little bit, and you’ll see the Olympic Cauldron, which is still lit during every 4th quarter. Keep in mind that the stadium has hosted the Olympics not once, but twice, in 1932 and 1984. The fact it hosted two Super Bowls almost seems irrelevant after hearing just those two facts alone, but also consider that like its Pasadena rival, the Coliseum too is a National Historical Landmark.



Uniforms2000’s away

While many call Boise St the go-to mid-major team, they tend to forget that the Utes won not one but two BCS games while calling the Mountain West Conference home. These road unis only emphasize the Utes’ underdog status, wearing these duds against the mighty Alabama Crimson Tide in 2009 Sugar Bowl. The Utes rolled the Tide, taking a 21-0 lead after one quarter and never looking back. The upset in New Orleans not only capped off an undefeated campaign, but basically confirmed that the Utes would seek a move to a higher conference.

StadiumRice-Eccles Stadium

The Utes called Rice Stadium home for almost 70 years, but it is at Rice-Eccles where they have become a household name in the homes of college football fans. Located 330 feet above Salt Lake City, Rice-Eccles served as one of the venues of the 2002 Winter Olympics. The only part of Rice Stadium still standing is the south end zone stands, which were built in 1982.



Uniforms2000’s home/Current

Purple has never been a popular option for a sports uniform color, but the Huskies pull it off with great success. The purple duds stand out tremendously in the usually bleak and overcast Pacific Northwest weather, and the team’s refrain from changing up their look has built a timeless sense of culture and continuity in Seattle.

StadiumHusky Stadium

At 71,900, Husky Stadium is the largest stadium in the Pacific Northwest. The stadium combines both the best of urban and rural settings, as fans can see the Space Needle in downtown Seattle from one view, and the majestic Mount Rainier from the other. And while they haven’t had much to celebrate over the past decade, Husky Stadium is notorious for being one of the loudest stadiums in sports, even louder than their NFL counterparts. A crowd of 73,333 broke 130 decibels during the Huskies 29-14 nationally televised victory over Nebraska in 1992. Dozens of boats also tailgate on nearby Lake Washington, which always makes for an enjoyable Saturday afternoon.


Washington State

Uniforms1990’s home

The Cougars enjoyed a period of prosperity where fans were treated to three of the most exciting quarterbacks college football had ever seen. While the look was updated for the final of three (Jason Gesser), the first two, Drew Bledsoe and Ryan Leaf, popularized the team’s classic red look. Bledsoe started to revitalize the program in the red look, and then Leaf took it a step further by taking the team to their first Rose Bowl since 1931.

StadiumMartin Stadium

Unlike most stadiums, which run north-south, Martin Stadium runs east-west. Again located above sea level, 2,520 feet to be exact, the current incarnation of Martin opened in 1972. While it hasn’t been heard much in recent times, the chant of “That’s another…COUGER FIRST DOWN!!!” is still an amazing Pullman tradition. The Cougars had to share their home with rival Idaho from 1999-2001 when the Vandals, making the transfer from I-A to I-AA, were undergoing expansion renovations at their Kibbie Dome.


Agree? Disagree? Shoot me an email at or follow me on Twitter @GeoffMags5490.

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Thanks Geoff! Quite the in-depth review (and although you skew towards more recent uniforms, you make compelling points). Readers? What say you?



all sport uni tweaks

Uni Tweaks Concepts

We have another new set of tweaks, er…concepts today. After discussion with a number of readers, it’s probably more apropos to call most of the reader submissions “concepts” rather than tweaks. So that’s that.

So if you’ve concept for any sport, or just a tweak or wholesale revision, send them my way.

Please do try to keep your descriptions to ~50 words (give or take) per image — if you have three uniform concepts in one image, then obviously, you can go a little over, but no novels, OK? OK!. You guys have usually been good with keeping the descriptions pretty short, and I thank you for that.

Like the colorizations, I’m going to run these as inline pics — click on each one to enlarge.

And so, lets begin:


We begin today with Timothy Lloyd, with a retro-update for the Rams:

Rams White Road - Timothy Lloyd

Rams White Throwback - Timothy Lloyd

Hi Phil,

Please see my versions of what I would like to see the (Los Angeles?) Rams uniforms look like.

Rams White Road Uniform (left)

A simplification based on the old road uniform without the horned sleeves because of space limitations with the newer sleeveless type jerseys. The pants are the traditional Rams white and not the 70’s yellow style. The shoulder crescents need to be thick and not the thin type. The helmet horns are larger and come together like the 50’s, 60’s helmets.

Rams Blue & White Throwback Uniform (right)

I would liked to have put the large 5″ sleeve numbers (which the Rams were known for) on this throwback jersey but the sleeveless style prohibits this. The shoulder crescents need to be thick and not the thin type. The helmet horns are larger and are slightly spaced where the horns meet in the front like the original helmets.

Rams Blue Home - Timothy Lloyd

Rams Home Uniform

Another simplification based on the old home uniform without the horned sleeves because of space limitations with the newer sleeveless type jerseys. The pants are the traditional Rams white and not the 70’s yellow style. The shoulder crescents need to be thick and not the thin type. The helmet horns are larger and come together like the 50’s, 60’s helmets.



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Next up is Mark Dion, who came up with a soccer tweak this past summer:

Chicago Fire Alternates - Mark Dion

Hi Phil,

The ticker yesterday (over the summer) had an item regarding the Chicago Fire inviting fans to design the team’s 2014 third jersey. I immediately started designing jerseys to enter into the contest. When I attempted to submit my creations I learned that the contest is only open to people living within 75 miles of Chicago (super lame). Now that I’ve spent hours designing 4 concepts I don’t want them to go to waste, so I’m submitting them as uniform tweeks/concepts. All 4 designs are based on the City of Chicago’s unique (gorgeous) flag. Enjoy!

Mark Dion

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We close today with Derek Reese who concepted some Florida baseball:

HOMFlamingos - Derek Reese

FTLAnglers - Derek Reese

Hey Phil,

Here in South Florida we have two ballparks that have gone largely unused since the early 90s. Fort Lauderdale Stadium, longtime home of the Yankees Spring Training and their Florida State League club and later O’s Spring Training, and the Homestead Sports Complex, built in the early 90s for the Indians(the field dimensions match Jacob’s Field), but Hurricane Andrew caused significant damage and it was never used. So I created some new Florida State League teams to occupy the stadiums.

The Fort Lauderdale Anglers, a tribute to my dearly departed teal & black Florida Marlins, and the Homestead Flamingos, inspired by the Miami Beach Flamingos of the 40s.

Derek Reese

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And that’s it for today. Back with more next time.



Guess The Game…From The Scoreboard


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It’s baaaaaack.

OK, readers — you know the drill (and if you don’t it’s quite simple) — you simply need to figure out what game is being played using the clues found on the scoreboard. Not much of a scoreboard this weekend, but the clues are more ON the field than on the scoreboard. This one should be a wee bit harder than last weekend.

If you solve it, as a courtesy to other readers, simply LINK (go to Baseball Reference) to the game and post that link in your comment — feel free to describe HOW you solved it, using any clues you may have gleaned from the Scoreboard.

OK? OK! Post your answer (in link form) in the comments section below. Good luck.

Last week’s scoreboard/answer: August 8, 2012




U.W.F.F.L. Week 5 Update
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By Rob Holecko

Here’s what going on in the UWFFL this week, clockwise from upper left: Texas is going with a nice, classy understated throwback look at home against New York; Miami is breaking out a new combo, a grey-out ala the Seattle Seahawks, at Seattle no less; Birmingham is 5-0 and leading the Central League, and they are debuting a new combo as well, this white-over-gold uniform set against Swisshelm; and the Chicago Cyclones have tweaked their home reds by adding a little white to the numerals hoping to make them a little more readable from the stands. Plus San Diego shows it’s fan appreciation, and Minnesota, Brooklyn, Sacramento, Anchorage, Dallas and others all try to stay undefeated. All that and much, much, more this week in the UWFFL.

(Click here or the above graphic to go vote!)




Alex Rocklein’s MLB Playoff Tracker


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I’m pleased to announce that MLB Playoff Tracker Alex Rocklein is back for another year of, well, tracking the uniforms worn by the MLB teams in the playoff hunt.

As you can see by the graphic, both play-in games and three out of the four current series have featured at least one team wearing a softball top — with the Rays and Red Sox both sporting the alt jerseys yesterday. Not shown is the regular-season 163rd elimination game between the Rangers and Rays, who also both wore softball tops. For the purists among us, this doesn’t bode well. Only the Braves and Dodgers went white versus gray (so far — the Braves like to wear their blue softball top on the road, so we’ll see if they break that out when the series resumes in Dodger Stadium).

Three of the eight playoff teams won’t be wearing a different color top — although the Cardinals do have a cream colored uniform; the Tigers and Dodgers have only their classic white and gray unis. Everyone else has at least one alt, with the Braves having two alt (blue and red) tops, and a cream colored alternate uniform; The Bucs have been wearing black for much of their season ending run, and all three games so far in the playoffs — will they wear the black tops at home on Sunday (when they have traditionally worn their early 1970s throwbacks)? Over in the AL, the A’s have both their green and gold alts (plus a gray and white jersey), and the Red Sox have a red and a blue alt. The Rays wear navy on the road and powder at home as often as not.

It’s a colorful post season (if that’s your cup of tea) to be sure. We’ll see how the uni-gods treat the alt-wearing teams soon enough.



That’s going to do it for today, folks. There won’t be any Ticker this weekend (sorry), as I’ve personally had a brutal week and Paul graciously relieved me of Ticker duty for the weekend. Don’t worry, it will return next weekend.

Big thanks to Geoff (and the concepters and Rob and Alex)! More interesting uni shenanigans ahead today in the NCAA, and Terry, Catherine and Tim E. will have all of your rundowns, Duck Tracking and 5 & 1 tomorrow! You guys have a great Saturday.

Follow me on Twitter @PhilHecken.


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“Wow! Paul and The Jeff are in complete agreement on something. Did the world just end while I wasn’t looking?”

Comments (84)

    Kudos to both of you on those Rams designs. My NFL allegiances lie elsewhere, but those look like winners to me.

    Great job. I love this the Timelessly Representing series. I personally would have picked the 1998-ish uniforms for both Arizona and UCLA but hard to argue against either way.

    Geoff, thanks for putting the “Timelessly representing” together. Unfortunately, in my opinion, your selection of the current UCLA uniforms undermines your credibility immensely. The Troy Aikman era jersey not only features gold numbers, but also includes true “UCLA stripes.” To choose the current iteration means consciously selecting a poorly executed version of a concept done markedly more effectively in the past.

    That said, appreciate your work on the piece!

    My only quibbles with being the “current” UCLA uniform is that the pictured version is from a few years ago when the numbers were gold with white and blue outlines, but the numbers since 2012 were gold with blue trim (no white outline between those two colors).

    My quibble with current UCLA uniforms is that the powder blue is no longer powder blue but a light royal. I’m too lazy to go back in time to check when they started to darken the blue, probably in an effort to have a “tougher” color, but the blue I grew up with in the sixties and seventies was powder blue. To call the current shade powder blue is to ignore what right in front of you.

    I admit I have only scrolled through quick to get to the comments section so I didn’t really read anything yet but for a “Timelessly” section there’s a lot of “2000’s” and “Current” listed for this one. I hate all (nost) things throwbackish/retro but having so many that are so close to today’s uniforms doesn’t say timeless to me. More like saying “What I see when I turn on a Pac 12 Game in the last 5 years”. Yes I can agree with some but no Moon or 90’s Huskies, Aikman UCLA, no Elway Stanford, no “Desert Swarm” Arizona?

    This. It seems like all the “Timelessly” posts lately have been written by teenagers/20somethings, with very short memories.

    Now get off my lawn, all of you!!!

    Agreed. If I said “Colorado, 5th down,” would there be some head scratching ’round here? Or Rashaan Salaam?

    (BTW, google each of the above for Colorado’s true timeless representation….)

    Could that be the first ever Rashaan Salaam mention on UW? All that’s missing now is Eric Bieniemy.

    I wish I could say, “A for Effort” on this series. If this was a 5th Grade Research Project, I would give high marks. I am not trying to disparage anything this person has done, but the quality is definitely not up to par with the rest of the content on this website. As Paul says, “Kids love shiny things”. This project echoes that sentiment. New, or current, does not automatically equal better, or “timeless”. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but “Timelessly Representing The Ballclub” is something I would expect to unfortunately discover on Bleacher Report, not on a website such as this one.

    Get off my lawn, get off my lawn indeed.

    As an Oregon fan I am severely disappointed with the decision to go with that uniform. All of the newer ones are better and the older one is better as well. Way to pick the ugliest of their unis.

    Two notes for Alex’s Playoff Tracker:

    1. The Reds wore their road grays in the wild card game.

    2. The LCSs and World Series are 2-3-2, not 2-2-1-1-1.

    1. Of course they did! Wow. I’m not entirely sure why that happened.

    2. And as far as the series structure goes, I must still have the hockey format on my mind.

    I’ll clean those up!

    Guess the game: Obviously it’s a Dodgers-Yankess World Series game from either 1977, 78 or 81, my first instinct was to identify the pitcher as Charlie Hough.

    Looking at his post-season gamelog, he pitched in 3 WS games… Gm 6 ’77, Gm 3 ’78 & Gm 5 ’78.

    My next thought was the home plate umpire is wearing a red jacket and has the outside chest protector, which would mean it’s an AL ump. Looking at the box scores of those three games, the home plate umpires were John McSherry, John Kibler and Frank Pulli. I remember Pulli & McSherry were definitely NL umps, so I was going to go with the Kibler ump’d game, which was Game 3 1978, Friday Oct. 13, 1978.

    But curiosity got the best of me, I wanted to verify this & Kibler’s Wikipedia page said he too was an NL ump. So maybe Wikipedia’s wrong or maybe I remembered wrong about only AL umps wearing red jackets, or baseball-reference is wrong about who the umps were for these games.

    So back to square one… the 1977 game was the one that Reggie Jackson hit the three HRs, the third off of Hough and so even though says the NL’s John McSherry was behind the plate and this picture shows a ump in a red jacket, I’m going to guess that game.

    Also, I remember McSherry was more rotund than this pic, but I’m thinking of him later when he died of a heart attack behind home plate in Cincinnati on opening day.

    Still, other than that I got nothing. I just think it’s likely that a picture like this would show up of a pitcher who gave up Reggie Jackson’s 3rd HR in a WS game. (Although maybe it isn’t Hough, I’m not so sure, now.)

    If is right, Hough didn’t pitch in a WS game at Yankee Stadium with an AL umpire behind the plate.

    Those homestead flamingo uniforms are THE BEST and MOST UNIQUE thing I’ve ever seen on here.

    Classic look. Inspired!


    When I attempted to submit my creations I learned that the contest is only open to people living within 75 miles of Chicago (super lame)

    The intent was to use geography as a way to ensure that only Chicago Fire fans participated in the contest. Lame perhaps, but is there another way to do it?

    The winning design will be revealed on Tuesday, the 142nd anniversary of the Chicago Fire, and the 16th anniversary of the founding of the club.


    Great designs for the Chicago Fire….if I were you I would mail them to the Fire offices anyway. What the heck, maybe they’ll consider them for 2015!

    So assuming it was 1978, and assuming they alternated between AL & NL home plate umps, then games 2, 4, 6 had AL home plate umps. Of those three only Game 4 was in NY, and the Dodgers pitchers were Tommy John, Terry Forster and Bob Welch.

    Either that, or this was from 1977 World Series.

    I don’t think so – only AL umpires wore the red coats and the umpire that night was John Kibler of the NL.

    BTW – Sutton was the starter in 1977 Game 1 at Yankee Stadium.

    Also, this may be a red herring, but Sutton was also the NL starting pitcher in the 1977 All Star Game, held at Yankee Stadium.

    I originally looked at Wiki for the game info and not BBRef which lists all of the pitchers for the game, which is why I thought he didn’t pitch at Yankee Stadium in 77.

    I stand corrected.

    It is definitely Sutton pitching and the batter is Lou Piniella.
    The game is Game 1 of the 1977 World Series, October 11, 1977.
    Piniella is leading off the bottom of the 2nd inning. This is the only time he faced Sutton at Yankee Stadium in the 77 or 78 World Series with no outs.
    Nestor Chylak of the AL is the home plate umpire

    I’m pretty sure you’re right about the game, except he must be leading off the 7th, not the 2nd. Unless there was a rain delay, the 2nd wouldn’t be taking place at 10:29 PM. And he led off the 7th with a single to right and was thrown out trying to stretch it into a double.

    It seems that the second inning would be earlier, since the time appears to say 10:29. Unless there was a rain delay, 10:29 would be much too late to only be the second inning.

    Unless it is a count-up clock that started at 0:00 when the game started.

    Yes, you got me. I should have looked later into the game. Itdoes appear tp be leading off the 7th.

    You’re probably right, it’s not like the interview covered anything else…it was all about the Redskins and that is the President’s sole focus these days. Save your outrage for something more important, like NBA uni ads….

    Here’s the rest of what was covered in the interview (HINT–it’s not just the Redskins–that was a side questions):

    He also said he understands the reluctance of people to change because of the nostalgia attached to the team nickname, which is refreshing. It seems to me most people on the “change it” side of the debate are of the attitude: “Screw your nostalgia, it’s a racial slur. End of story.”

    This is October 11, 1977, Game 1 of the 1977 World Series. 7th inning. Don Sutton pitching to Lou Piniella. The photo is of the second pitch thrown during the at bat, which Piniella would swing at for a strike.


    Manufacturer’s Hanover sign used in 1977 season. See video evidence – about 20 seconds in.

    Manny Hanny had a different sign in 1978 – Game 4 -

    10:29 at night, late in the game

    Looks like Suttton on the mound. Sutton pitched in game 1 1977 Series.

    Yankees batting. 0 outs, 1 ball. Matches Piniella’s at bat, which also lines up with being late in the game.

    I hate all (most) things throwback/retro/classic so this week’s PSU-Indiana game would be cringe worthy for me anyway. But throw in them playing this in October with the pink added in? Let’s just say it helped my diet. I’m in no hurry to get anywhere near food right now after the sight of this has my stomach churning.

    Technically USC did wear alternate uniforms at a home game against Notre Dame. It was either 1994 or 1996. USC’s normal jersey for that period that had sleeve stripes. The alternate resembled the gold shoulder stripe that they wear now.

    The special jerseys that USC wore for that one home game was just a one shot deal. They didn’t switch to the current jersey until 2002 (Carson Palmer’s senior year). The jersey that they wore for that one game was totally different.

    In terms of the MLB Playoffs, it could be worse, Phil. What if Selig and his cronies thought it would be a good idea to force the teams to wear their BP jerseys? Either wear this year’s jerseys to clear out the inventory or bust out next year’s to tease people (Like the NFL does with hats, etc. during Super Bowl week). And don’t forget strong-arming teams to wear the BP hats during not-BP action. It could always be worse with Selig.

    That gives me an idea, though.

    What if after teams were mathematically eliminated, they had to wear the BPs jerseys? Sort of like they don’t qualify to wear the “real” unis anymore.

    The photo of the game in question is Game 6 of the 1977 World Series, which was played on October 18, 1977. The reason why I know it is that game is that the ads in the picture match the video coverage of this game, the game in which Reggie Jackson hit 3 home runs game 6.

    Game 6 of 1977 World Series

    However, the picture above is not of Reggie Jackson’s third home run. The reason it is not him is that he hit his third home run on the first pitch of the at bat. Replays of the Jackson’s at bat show that Reggie hit his third homer at 10:25 pm not 10:29 as indicated. So why am is saying this is still Game 6?

    Well, the next batter that comes at bat is in fact the batter in the photo. The next batter does in fact take a first pitch ball, as the photo indicates. With the few minutes that it took for Reggie to run the bases and marvel about the homer, it was Tuesday, October 18, 1977 at 10:29, where Chris Chambliss is facing pitch from Charlie Hough. That pitch (the one in the photo) is Ball 2. Chambliss would ground out on the third pitch in the third pitch to Davy Lopes at second for the first out in the 8th.

    So the correct answer is Game 6 of the 1977 World Series, where at 10:29 PM, Chris Chambliss of the NY Yankees checks his swing on ball 2 from Charlie Hough, at (the old remodeled) Yankee Stadium on Tueseday, October 18, 1977.

    *PS- the pitch is at 1:40:43 on the clip I posted above.

    You need to take another look at that clip. It was an NL umpire the night Jackson hit three home runs – note the blue coat with the chest protector worn inside the coat.

    The photo clearly shows an AL plate umpire – red coat with an external chest protector. Game 1 was the only game played in Yankee Stadium with an AL plate umpire in the ’77 series.

    You claim the batter is Chambliss who batted left, as shown in the video you cite, when the batter in the photo is clearly batting right. Even if you think the photo is flipped, the text of the ad sign is the right way around, proving it is not.

    Timothy Lloyd’s Rams designs are tremendous. Well done, sir. (And I usually skim over the uni tweaks. Glad everyone enjoys them. Just not my cup of tea.)

    Do we think that as Maryland left the field after the game today they said things like…

    “Yeah, well, WE have a whole closet-ful of cool modern football outfits that high school recruits really love.”

    Clemson is playing Syracuse and neither team is wearing orange? Clemons in road whites, and Syracuse in all blue.

    What’s wrong with the world? The next thing you know, the Browns will wear all-brown. Oh, wait…

    Michigan is wearing small LHS initial stickers on the rear left side of the helmets in honor of grad assistant/former player Adam Stenavich’s infant son Luke, who died on September 27th. IIRC, first memorial decal since the Bo/Gerald Ford stickers in the 2007 Rose Bowl.

    RE: ASU…

    What kid doesn’t grow up dreaming of playing big time college football wearing a helmet that looks like an old lady’s bowling ball.

    Each of the elements of ND’s uniform look really good, but assembled together on the field…not so much. Can’t really put my finger on it.

    I blame the lack of blue and the white pants and the fact that they are going against an opponent that looks awful doesn’t help either.

    Baylor breaking out the gold chrome buckets in a gold-black-black against WVU’s road blue-white-white combo. Will Baylor break the century mark?

    Granted I haven’t had as much time today to watch games as many games as usual today but I am SO glad I don’t have to do the 5&1 tomorrow. Of the games I’ve seen I think maybe 2 or 3 at best would rate high enough to be included and all but maybe 1 of those I have enough issues with one or the other team to disqualify it from consideration.

    But then again teams wearing all white on the road, teams with matte/chrome helmets, teams wearing numbers on one or both sides of their helmets, teams wearing gray facemasks with none of that color anywhere in their official colors are almost always disqualified from my choices so it’s been a tough week for me to watch.

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