Time for another bunch of vintage NFL screen shots from reader Steve K., who continues to document unusual uni-related items from the 1970s (if you’ve missed the previous entries featuring his work, they’re here and here). Here we go:
• If you think John Hadl’s NOB looked off-center in this shot (which was featured in one of Steve’s earlier reports), check him out here — yikes.
• Oilers DB Willie Germany wore some white tape stripes on his thighs.
• Note the small type on Emery Moorehead’s NOB, circa 1977. “Only a few Giants had this font that season, including Moorehead and OL Jim Pietrzak,” says Steve. “From 1977-80, the Giants had numerous inconsistencies in their NOB fonts which, I’ll document another time.”
• Alfred Jenkins’s NOB type wasn’t small — it was missing altogether in this 1977 shot.
• Speaking of missing uni elements, here’s Rick Upchurch wearing a blank helmet in 1975 — shocking! But he had a logo-clad helmet in the second half of the same game.
• Meanwhile, here’s Upchurch’s teammate Billy Van Heusen with no space between the two part of his surname.
• On the other end of the spectrum, check out James McAlister’s NOB with a wide space. This appears to have been Philly’s standard style in 1975.
• Speaking of the Eagles, check out the livery on this helicopter — interesting mix of the helmet wing and an eagle’s head.
• Steve has documented several instances of the mid-’70s Chargers NOBs with the first initial coming after the surname, and here’s another one. “That’s little-known OL Booker Brown,” says Steve. “Oddly, there was no other Charger with the surname Brown on the team in 1975.”
• “We all know that the NFL changed the end zone markers from from flags to orange pylons beginning in 1974,” says Steve. “But the Broncos appear to have used striped pylons for this 1975 game against the Eagles.”
• We’ve had plenty of discussion about the inconsistencies in the Dolphins’ numerals over the years, but here’s a particularly glaring example: Check out the TV numbers in this shot.
• 1970s coaching attire was always good for a laugh (especially when the coach in question was Bum Phillips). And even if the coach was dressed conservatively, there was usually someone on the field to remind you which decade you were in.
That’s enough for now. More stuff coming from Steve soon.
Friendly Reminder: If you’ve been uni-tracking a team for Phil, he wants to hear from you asap. Full details here.
Uni Watch News Ticker: New sleeve patches for Navy. Further details here (with thanks to Mike Althouse and Kevin Whisman, respectively. ”¦ Mike Hersh picked up some cool stuff at the National in Cleveland last week, including this awesome 1939 Eagles photo and a great view of some killer Michigan logo socks. ”¦ John Moist was vacationing in Philly and spotted a waiter wearing faux stirrups at the Old City Tavern. “They are required to wear white socks,” he says. “I told him about Uni Watch and that this photo may appear. Sorry, didn’t get his name. Also, another waiter had swoosh socks. I did not take his photo.” ”¦ Big news from Jeff Ash, who writes: “I am working on a Packers photo history book that may be of interest to uni enthusiasts. Titletown’s Team won’t be out until November, but it will have more of the old Packers photos I’ve posted at the Green Bay Press-Gazette‘s web site over the last couple of years. We also will be putting some of that material online.” ”¦ I don’t like Nike, but I might make an exception in this case (big thanks to Chad Todd). ”¦ Here’s a patch I’d never seen before, because it was never worn on the ice. The Flyers wore it for promo photos after their 1975 Stanley Cup championship. Here’s one more view (nice find by Paul Richard Cook). ”¦ Here’s an article about which UK soccer team has the most sponsor patches (with thanks to Craig Sallinger). ”¦ Michael Chamberlain is the track announcer at Sam Houston Race Park in Houston. “In our first race this Saturday, the #2 horse is named Uni. 6-1 odds on the morning line, and I will certainly plan on picking him in my tip sheet and will probably put a couple of bucks on him also to honor the Uni Watch site.” Thanks, Michael! ”¦ Small item buried within this guide to NYC museums: “On the second floor of the American Wing [at the Met], there’s an open storage area where art is displayed in glass cases while galleries undergo renovations. There you can admire a fraction of the museum’s thousands of rare baseball cards, donated by electrician Jefferson R. Burdick. (The rest, including a 1909 Honus Wagner valued at more than $2 million, are stored in the archives.) Until 1993, the cards were available for viewing by appointment only: It’s rumored that practice stopped because fanatic card collectors would pocket the valuable ones” (big thanks to Laura Forde). ”¦ Coupla good finds on the Chris Creamer board, including a new 50th-anniversary logo for the Lakers, an upcoming white-out for FSU, and new cleats for Matt Hasselbeck. Didn’t he get in trouble a few years back for wearing white shoelaces with black shoes? ”¦ NOBs have been restored at Iowa State, which had been NNOB for the past two seasons (with thanks to Chris Andringa). ”¦ According to Dressed to the Nines, “In 1895, a number of ballplayers, including future Hall of Fame outfielder Jesse Burkett, experimented with baseball caps that had green-tinted, transparent bills. The idea was to allow the fielder a better range of view while protecting him from the glare of the sun, but apparently the see-through bills never caught on.” I knew about that. But I didn’t know that a variation on that concept was still being sold in the Sears catalog in 1923 (nice find by David Neuman). ”¦ Apparently nobody has told the folks at AFLAC (or at FSN Rocky Mountain) that the Orioles no longer have “Orioles” on their road jersey (with thanks to Matt Hiett). ”¦ Tim Burke notes that Rays catcher Michel Hernandez was missing his manta ray sleeve patch last night. ”¦ “Does he tear EVERYthing?” asks Brinke Guthrie. ”¦ Entertaining survey of high school team logos here (with thanks to Kurt Esposito). ”¦ The Titans will wear a Steve McNair memorial decal this season. ”¦ Vicente Padilla was sporting the Pedro Padilla Porthole last night (as spotted by Jay Shive). ”¦ Paul Getz II notes that the Phillies have stopped wearing their World Series championship sleeve patch. ”¦ Can someone please order one of these for Luis Castillo? ”¦ There’s a blog devoted to the Arizona Wildcats equipment staff (with thanks to Eric Sing). … Speaking of the Mets, had a great time at Shea yesterday with Phil. Two uni-notable items: (1) Cards catcher Jason LaRue wore navy shinguards with a red chest protector, and (2) Bobby Parnell had been with the Mets all season long without coming up to bat, until the bottom of the 8th yesterday. He promptly got a base hit, at which point they showed him on the jumbotron, which is when I saw that he had his own batting helmet. Just think how many times that helmet has been packed, unpacked, put in the helmet rack, put back in the helmet bag, taken on the road, etc., all season long, just waiting for its chance to finally be used in a game. I take a lot of shots at Charlie Samuels, but I give him credit for having a helmet for every player, even the ones who might never get a turn at bat.
Not used to seeing the Houston Oilers so predominately displayed.
The McNair patch link doesnt woik
Shameful use of gradients and drop shadows in that Lakers logo.
Perhaps they were onto something with a mid-century, nearly art deco type treatment (“50” and “fifty” “years”)to celebrate the founding era. But they blew it.
Truly AWFUL graphic design work. Current sports logo design in general needs an enema.
If I recall correctly the NFL rule is that the shoe laces and tongue match. So Matt Hasselbeck got fined for white shoe laces with a black tongue. These new shoes have a white tongue, so no problem.
Steve McNair decal link = 404
[quote comment=”344185″]Steve McNair decal link = 404[/quote]
Thanks. Now fixed.
“Players also wore a No. 21 sticker after the death of former Redskin Sean Taylor during the 2007 season.”
Really. News to me.
One reason for Bum Philips odd sideline attire is that he is colorblind as is his wife.
[quote comment=”344184″]If I recall correctly the NFL rule is that the shoe laces and tongue match. So Matt Hasselbeck got fined for white shoe laces with a black tongue. These new shoes have a white tongue, so no problem.[/quote]
All players on a team must wear same colors shoes, right? So wouldn’t it be easier just to say all players also must wear the same color shoelaces?
Talk about being overly specific.
—Ricko
I know it’s a little late now, but I was listening to the ATL-SD game yesterday and about 3:25 MDT the Padres radio guys were discussing hosery issues (pants under the shoes vs. stirrups). Can’t remember what inning and didn’t catch who was playing to start the discussion, but since there has been transcripts of such things on here, I thought I’d throw it out there. In case someone wants to look into it…
Paul (and everyone), enjoy your late summer vacation.
I don’t think the tape ‘stripes’ on the football pants are decorative – anyone who played high school football in the 80s remembers guys who taped their thigh pads down because the issued insert pads were so bulky that the material would stretch out and they’d kinda bounce/flop against your legs as you ran.
Rare to see it in the pros, but not rare to see in football in general in that era..
Vacationing in Philly?
[quote comment=”344181″]Not used to seeing the Houston Oilers so predominately displayed.[/quote]
I’m not a Houston Oilers fan, but they did have sharp uniforms and the white helmets were the best look. When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind. Unfortunately, for the Titans, it’s Steve McNair.
Larue has done that ever since he’s been with the Cards, and it drives me nuts
Had hoped to post the in season uni differences today for NFL teams in the 1968-1973 era but my home pc, where the doc is was very uncooperative this morning.
Will shoot for tomorrow.
I am sorry.
[quote]Big news from Jeff Ash, who writes: “I am working on a Packers photo history book that may be of interest to uni enthusiasts. Titletown’s Team won’t be out until November, but it will have more of the old Packers photos I’ve posted at the Green Bay Press-Gazette’s web site over the last couple of years. We also will be putting some of that material online.” … [/quote]
Thanks for the heads-up. Just ordered my copy.
However, I am at work on the NOB database for baseball.
I can report on the 1960-1964 era for MLB:
Chicago White Sox:
1960 (road only), 1961-1964.
Kansas City Athletics:
1963 (home only)
Cincinnati Reds:
1964 (under the numerals)
Milwaukee Braves:
1963-1964
St. Louis Cardinals:
1962-1964
Two surprises for me were the A’s with NOB’s on the homes in 1963 and I hadn’t thought the Cardinals had NOB’s as far back as 1962. I thought they adopted NOB’s in ’63.
While I haven’t attempted to formally scope the NBA, I did run across NOB’s for the Lakers as far back as the 1961-62 season.
That 1939 Eagles t-shirt is beautiful. Great logo.
[quote comment=”344185″]Steve McNair decal link = 404[/quote]
Steve McNair was a great quarterback, I don’t think anyone can debate that. That being said, am I the only one that questions why the team would memorialize a guy who was cheating on his wife and the mother of his four children with a nearly underage waitress that ended up killing him in a murder/suicide?
Entertaining survey of high school team logos here:
Don’t forget about the Itasca Wampus Cats (Itasca, TX)
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[quote comment=”344192″]Vacationing in Philly?[/quote]
My thoughts exactly.
[quote comment=”344200″][quote comment=”344185″]Steve McNair decal link = 404[/quote]
Steve McNair was a great quarterback, I don’t think anyone can debate that. That being said, am I the only one that questions why the team would memorialize a guy who was cheating on his wife and the mother of his four children with a nearly underage waitress that ended up killing him in a murder/suicide?[/quote]
Character, we are learning every day, is becoming irrelevant.
If you can play ball. Or ever did.
—Ricko
What was the shade of red in the Houston Oilers jersey, was it bright red, or was it darker shade? Did it remain consistent?
With Phil’s idea to change the Brewers unis, could they be changing their unis? –
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Didn’t another team have a uni sale before changing them?
[quote comment=”344204″]What was the shade of red in the Houston Oilers jersey, was it bright red, or was it darker shade?
Did it remain consistent?[/quote]
I don’t know that the Oilers ever used anything but standard issue red (“scarlet” in the catalogs) from Day One in 1960. Lighting conditions, of course, always create illusions.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344205″]With Phil’s idea to change the Brewers unis, could they be changing their unis? –
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Didn’t another team have a uni sale before changing them?[/quote]
It’s a league-wide sale, according to the email I got. All personalized jerseys are 25% off.
The AFLAC guys also missed the Mets black alt (I know we would like to forget about it) that they now wear on the raod with no city name.
[quote comment=”344205″]With Phil’s idea to change the Brewers unis, could they be changing their unis? –
link
Didn’t another team have a uni sale before changing them?[/quote]
As much as I would like the Brewers to change their jerseys (not like I have link), I highly doubt that this means they’re changing them any time soon.
Unless link….
[quote comment=”344200″][quote comment=”344185″]Steve McNair decal link = 404[/quote]
Steve McNair was a great quarterback, I don’t think anyone can debate that. That being said, am I the only one that questions why the team would memorialize a guy who was cheating on his wife and the mother of his four children with a nearly underage waitress that ended up killing him in a murder/suicide?[/quote]
I agree McNair was a very good player, clearly not a hall of famer, though. The reason teams like Tennessee go overboard in this situation, is quite simply, tradition. The Titans have only been in Tennessee about 15 years, and while they have had playoff teams, only once did they reach the Super Bowl. McNair and Eddie George have been the top two players in non-Oiler franchise history, so they’re blowing it out of proportion.
Teams that don’t win championships often do this, because of the lack of tradition. Outside of 1999, the Titans have flopped in the playoffs. Some of you may remember the immature terrible towel stomping incident near the end the the Titans-Steelers game last season. Players and fans on teams without tradition get really excited over regular season wins, because that’s the highlight of their season.
Getting back to McNair, we’ve seen this syndrome before outside of sport. Michael Jackson fans didn’t want to hear the truth, and neither do Titan fans.
The shots of Upchurch with and without a helmet decal show the opposite sides of the helmet. Maybe just one side decal fell off?
Looked funny to see Upchurch in the standard jersey rather than the lighter colored tearaway.
never was a big fan of combining “red” and powderblue as did the oilers, and never was a fan of the red facemask…but…
you gotta admit, that was, OCD speaking, a PERFECT uniform — all the stripes, both pattern and width, on helmet, pants and sleeves matched brilliantly; sometimes even the socks joined the party
i mean, c’mon, even in all white, that was a gorgeous uni
[quote comment=”344211″]The shots of Upchurch with and without a helmet decal show the opposite sides of the helmet. Maybe just one side decal fell off?
Looked funny to see Upchurch in the standard jersey rather than the lighter colored tearaway.[/quote]
Possible logical solution: A problem during pre-game with Upchurch’s regular helmet. Used his backup until the equipment guys fixed whatever was wrong. Not uncommon, just that today the backups and regulars usually are identical, and there is more equipment repair gear right on the sidelines.
—Ricko
That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
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Also, the nearby West De Pere Phantoms use the same ghost logo on their athletics. Weird when the teams play each other (not that often).
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-Greenie
[quote comment=”344212″]never was a big fan of combining “red” and powderblue as did the oilers, and never was a fan of the red facemask…but…
link, that was, OCD speaking, a PERFECT uniform — all the stripes, both pattern and width, on helmet, pants and sleeves matched brilliantly; sometimes link joined the party
i mean, link, that was a gorgeous uni[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more, Florida Atlantic University football has borrowed that striping pattern, onl the stripes are at the shoulders, not sleeves. They use dark blue, instead of light blue with the red.
“When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344214″]That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
link
Looks like you’re partially right. “Ghosts” for the all-white uniforms, “Galloping” later added to inspire the team towards Red’s heights.
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They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.
[quote comment=”344217″][quote comment=”344214″]That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
link
Looks like you’re partially right. “Ghosts” for the all-white uniforms, “Galloping” later added to inspire the team towards Red’s heights.
link
They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.[/quote]
Heck, even the school’s link provides a great start for a new logo.
[quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
For some reason, I think of Charlie Tolar
:)
[quote comment=”344207″][quote comment=”344205″]With Phil’s idea to change the Brewers unis, could they be changing their unis? –
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Didn’t another team have a uni sale before changing them?[/quote]
It’s a league-wide sale, according to the email I got. All personalized jerseys are 25% off.[/quote]
Whoops – Sorry – Just saw that in mlb.com – I get a few teams’ email, but, only got word of it from Brewers email.
[quote comment=”344218″][quote comment=”344217″][quote comment=”344214″]That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
link
Looks like you’re partially right. “Ghosts” for the all-white uniforms, “Galloping” later added to inspire the team towards Red’s heights.
link
They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.[/quote]
Heck, even the school’s link provides a great start for a new logo.[/quote]
And, just because I apparently can’t leave this alone, there’s link on the Athletics site.
[quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL
[quote comment=”344220″][quote comment=”344207″][quote comment=”344205″]With Phil’s idea to change the Brewers unis, could they be changing their unis? –
link
Didn’t another team have a uni sale before changing them?[/quote]
It’s a league-wide sale, according to the email I got. All personalized jerseys are 25% off.[/quote]
Whoops – Sorry – Just saw that in mlb.com – I get a few teams’ email, but, only got word of it from Brewers email.[/quote]
No problem! Just was helping you out… and trying to keep the Brew Crew fans from starting an uprising. LOL
[quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
For some reason, I think of Charlie Tolar
:)[/quote]
Hey, I remember those players, although only Blanda and Houston were hall of famers, and Houston’s great days were mostly with the Washington Redskins. Clearly, Earl Campbell was the greatest Oiler/Titan.
Those other players mentioned were very good, but the most successful franchises in the NFL, have tons of those kinds of players.
Personally, the Oiler that was most fun to watch, had to be Billy “White Shoes” Johnson.
[quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
Agreed.
However, the “Second Generation” of the Oilers’ Light Blue helmets (1972-1974) were my favorite of all NFL unis at that time, because the Light Blue was a slightly darker/different shade than previously worn, almost an “Ice Blue”. the striping and color match were outstanding.
The original Oilers wore Light Blue helmets, then switched to Silver Helmets and pants, then back to Light Blue helmets in 1972. The Saints seemed to have played them every preseason, and we were pretty aware of their unis in New Orleans.
I specifically recall the Oilers playing the Saints in the very first preseason game to open the Superdome in 1975, where the Oilers broke out there White Helmets for the very first time – I believe this was also Bum Phillips very first full season as head coach – he took over fior Sid Gillman during the previous season – in team history. My first impression was that Bum may have had something to do with the helmet switch.
It was a HUGE dissappointment for me to see the White helmets, as the 1972-1974 Oilers uni was my absolute favorite with the “second Generation” Blue helmet. The Whites were OK, but not nearly as sharp or unique.
[quote comment=”344222″][quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL[/quote]
More of that damned North Coast bias
[quote comment=”344215″][quote comment=”344212″]never was a big fan of combining “red” and powderblue as did the oilers, and never was a fan of the red facemask…but…
link, that was, OCD speaking, a PERFECT uniform — all the stripes, both pattern and width, on helmet, pants and sleeves matched brilliantly; sometimes link joined the party
i mean, link, that was a gorgeous uni[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more, Florida Atlantic University football has borrowed that striping pattern, onl the stripes are at the shoulders, not sleeves. They use dark blue, instead of light blue with the red.[/quote]
i din’t so much mean the classic northwestern striping, but i meant how each color is perfectly replicated on each article (helmet, sleeve, pant)… i hate when teams mix and match or reverse the colors in the pattern…
like this matchup…see how helmets don’t match pants don’t match sleeves
/just offends my OCD, ya know?
[quote comment=”344221″][quote comment=”344218″][quote comment=”344217″][quote comment=”344214″]That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
link
Looks like you’re partially right. “Ghosts” for the all-white uniforms, “Galloping” later added to inspire the team towards Red’s heights.
link
They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.[/quote]
Heck, even the school’s link provides a great start for a new logo.[/quote]
And, just because I apparently can’t leave this alone, there’s link on the Athletics site.[/quote]
Hey Chance, they still have a rider present the game balls at the football games. Mostly just for Homecoming, he’ll ride right in from the parade, but they still do it.
-Greenie
[quote comment=”344226″][quote comment=”344222″][quote comment=”344219″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL[/quote]
More of that damned Great White North Coast bias[/quote]
Fixed! ;o)
[quote comment=”344227″][quote comment=”344215″][quote comment=”344212″]never was a big fan of combining “red” and powderblue as did the oilers, and never was a fan of the red facemask…but…
link, that was, OCD speaking, a PERFECT uniform — all the stripes, both pattern and width, on helmet, pants and sleeves matched brilliantly; sometimes link joined the party
i mean, link, that was a gorgeous uni[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more, Florida Atlantic University football has borrowed that striping pattern, onl the stripes are at the shoulders, not sleeves. They use dark blue, instead of light blue with the red.[/quote]
i din’t so much mean the link, but i meant how each color is perfectly replicated on each article (helmet, sleeve, pant)… i hate when teams link or link the colors in the link…
link…see how helmets don’t match pants don’t match sleeves
/just offends my OCD, ya know?[/quote]
Check out Florida Atlantic, I think you’ll approve of that look. The Owls are rarely on TV, so their uniform is unknown to most of the country.
[quote comment=”344225″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
Agreed.
However, the “Second Generation” of the Oilers’ Light Blue helmets (1972-1974) were my favorite of all NFL unis at that time, because the Light Blue was a slightly darker/different shade than previously worn, almost an “Ice Blue”. the striping and color match were outstanding.
The original Oilers wore Light Blue helmets, then switched to Silver Helmets and pants, then back to Light Blue helmets in 1972. The Saints seemed to have played them every preseason, and we were pretty aware of their unis in New Orleans.
I specifically recall the Oilers playing the Saints in the very first preseason game to open the Superdome in 1975, where the Oilers broke out there White Helmets for the very first time – I believe this was also Bum Phillips very first full season as head coach – he took over fior Sid Gillman during the previous season – in team history. My first impression was that Bum may have had something to do with the helmet switch.
It was a HUGE dissappointment for me to see the White helmets, as the 1972-1974 Oilers uni was my absolute favorite with the “second Generation” Blue helmet. The Whites were OK, but not nearly as sharp or unique.[/quote]
i think what we’re all saying is that powder blue and red wouldn’t seem a likely uni combination, but that all in all the Oilers did a damn fine job with it…before they ran away from home and became Greek country singers…or something (yesterday there was talk about Athens and Nashville and daggers and Titans and a mini-Parthenon and maybe even about whether Aristotle wrote “Rocky Top” on the jews harp…I dunno, it just got to be a blur….LOL).
—Ricko
Check out this link on a Red Sox road jersey.
Big V, small a, small n, big BUREN.
Perfectly consistent with other names like that (DeROSA, DiPINO, LoDUCA), but somehow it feels like the whole “van” should be small. In Dutch they write the “van” in all lowercase, right?
The Oilers, of course, were accustomed to complex lyrics.
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
Houston Oilers number one.”
(Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.)
(And repeat)
(And repeat…)
Seriously, that was maybe the best pro football song ever, at least right up there with hailing to the Redskins. For simplicity and singability, though, maybe even slightly better than the D.C. tune.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344222″][quote comment=”344219″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL[/quote]
Pretty sure not a single one of those players was in the NFL Teebz,although that Greatsky guy sounds familiar. Methinks you has a faulty memory this morning.
And we haven’t addressed this, but may I just say, with all due respect to many great team names…
“Houston Oilers” was one of the all-time best.
RIP
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344228″][quote comment=”344221″][quote comment=”344218″][quote comment=”344217″][quote comment=”344214″]That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
link
Looks like you’re partially right. “Ghosts” for the all-white uniforms, “Galloping” later added to inspire the team towards Red’s heights.
link
They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.[/quote]
Heck, even the school’s link provides a great start for a new logo.[/quote]
And, just because I apparently can’t leave this alone, there’s link on the Athletics site.[/quote]
Hey Chance, they still have a rider present the game balls at the football games. Mostly just for Homecoming, he’ll ride right in from the parade, but they still do it.
-Greenie[/quote]
mental_floss offers 31 unbelievable high school mascots link My nephews’ and nieces’ school, Hesston, has its Swathers.
Hey! Number 12 looks like the Islanders.
[quote comment=”344234″][quote comment=”344222″][quote comment=”344219″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL[/quote]
Pretty sure not a single one of those players was in the NFL Teebz,although that Greatsky guy sounds familiar. Methinks you has a faulty memory this morning.[/quote]
The statement of “when you think about the Oilers…” was what prompted the orange-and-blue memories. Mention “Oilers” and I instinctively have flashbacks to Gretzky and Co. dismantling opponents.
And you gotta know that somewhere someone is still laughing up his sleeve that the dumb bastards actually used…
“Winged Beavers.”
Ah, well, maybe the school is famous for it gynecology department.
[quote comment=”344238″][quote comment=”344234″][quote comment=”344222″][quote comment=”344219″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL[/quote]
Pretty sure not a single one of those players was in the NFL Teebz,although that Greatsky guy sounds familiar. Methinks you has a faulty memory this morning.[/quote]
The statement of “when you think about the Oilers…” was what prompted the orange-and-blue memories. Mention “Oilers” and I instinctively have flashbacks to Gretzky and Co. dismantling opponents.[/quote]
Betcha a round that you didn’t think you were gonna have to explain that one, huh, Teebz.
[quote comment=”344238″][quote comment=”344234″][quote comment=”344222″][quote comment=”344219″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL[/quote]
Pretty sure not a single one of those players was in the NFL Teebz,although that Greatsky guy sounds familiar. Methinks you has a faulty memory this morning.[/quote]
The statement of “when you think about the Oilers…” was what prompted the orange-and-blue memories. Mention “Oilers” and I instinctively have flashbacks to Gretzky and Co. dismantling opponents.[/quote]
Was that the earl campbell or warren moon eras? :-P
(i’ll stop now)
[quote comment=”344193″][quote comment=”344181″]Not used to seeing the Houston Oilers so predominately displayed.[/quote]
I’m not a Houston Oilers fan, but they did have sharp uniforms and the white helmets were the best look.[/quote]
I disagree. When I was a kid, I liked the Oilers simply because they looked like this link
They went 1-13 in that uniform, but I still liked them. Then they switched to white helmets (and coincidentally got better), but they were no longer my favorite team.
[quote comment=”344236″][quote comment=”344228″][quote comment=”344221″][quote comment=”344218″][quote comment=”344217″][quote comment=”344214″]That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
link
Looks like you’re partially right. “Ghosts” for the all-white uniforms, “Galloping” later added to inspire the team towards Red’s heights.
link
They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.[/quote]
Heck, even the school’s link provides a great start for a new logo.[/quote]
And, just because I apparently can’t leave this alone, there’s link on the Athletics site.[/quote]
Hey Chance, they still have a rider present the game balls at the football games. Mostly just for Homecoming, he’ll ride right in from the parade, but they still do it.
-Greenie[/quote]
mental_floss offers 31 unbelievable high school mascots link My nephews’ and nieces’ school, Hesston, has its Swathers.[/quote]
Winged Beavers is pretty weird, but my fav is the Poca Dots. List doesn’t include goodies like the Unionville Midgets.
BTW: Those Oiler pics are giving me a Pastorini jones.
[quote comment=”344243″][quote comment=”344236″][quote comment=”344228″][quote comment=”344221″][quote comment=”344218″][quote comment=”344217″][quote comment=”344214″]That was my high school mascot on the list of unusual ones. Kaukauna Galloping Ghosts. I think it was inspired by Red Grange or some crap.
link
Looks like you’re partially right. “Ghosts” for the all-white uniforms, “Galloping” later added to inspire the team towards Red’s heights.
link
They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.[/quote]
Heck, even the school’s link provides a great start for a new logo.[/quote]
And, just because I apparently can’t leave this alone, there’s link on the Athletics site.[/quote]
Hey Chance, they still have a rider present the game balls at the football games. Mostly just for Homecoming, he’ll ride right in from the parade, but they still do it.
-Greenie[/quote]
mental_floss offers 31 unbelievable high school mascots link My nephews’ and nieces’ school, Hesston, has its Swathers.[/quote]
Winged Beavers is pretty weird, but my fav is the Poca Dots. List doesn’t include goodies like the Unionville Midgets.
BTW: Those Oiler pics are giving me a Pastorini jones.[/quote]
Did Kaukauna High School have an in-school souvenir store? link
[quote comment=”344241″][quote comment=”344238″][quote comment=”344234″][quote comment=”344222″][quote comment=”344219″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
[/quote]
I think of Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Bill Ranford, Steve Smith’s own goal, Peter Pocklington, Glen Sather, Craig MacTavish’s dome, Ryan Smyth, Dave Semenko, Marty McSorley, and Curtis Joseph.
But that’s just me. LOL[/quote]
Pretty sure not a single one of those players was in the NFL Teebz,although that Greatsky guy sounds familiar. Methinks you has a faulty memory this morning.[/quote]
The statement of “when you think about the Oilers…” was what prompted the orange-and-blue memories. Mention “Oilers” and I instinctively have flashbacks to Gretzky and Co. dismantling opponents.[/quote]
Was that the earl campbell or warren moon eras? :-P
(i’ll stop now)[/quote]
From 1984 until 1990. So the tail end of Campbell’s illustrious career, and entirely during Moon’s run from 1984 until 1993.
Before moving to the NFL Oilers, he was the QB for the Edmonton Eskimos from 1978-1983. I’m hearing X-Files music all of a sudden. Edmonton Eskimos-Houston Oilers-Edmonton Oilers….
[quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
For some reason, I think of Charlie Tolar
:)[/quote]
I was a Zeke Moore fan. Didn’t know anything about him, but as a kid I loved the number 22. That’s why I liked Cyril Pinder of the Bears and Paul Krause of the Vikings as well. As I grew up I appreciated Krause for being a darn good player, too.
[quote comment=”344246″][quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
For some reason, I think of Charlie Tolar
:)[/quote]
I was a Zeke Moore fan. Didn’t know anything about him, but as a kid I loved the number 22. That’s why I liked Cyril Pinder of the Bears and Paul Krause of the Vikings as well. As I grew up I appreciated Krause for being a darn good player, too.[/quote]
So, then, your feeling about Doug Flutie would be…
Damn, trying to think of an active NFL player of note who wears 22. Kinda of a forgotten number these days.
(Feel free to shake my head, I’m obviously stuck)
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344233″]The Oilers, of course, were accustomed to complex lyrics.
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
Houston Oilers number one.”
(Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.)
(And repeat)
(And repeat…)
Seriously, that was maybe the best pro football song ever, at least right up there with hailing to the Redskins. For simplicity and singability, though, maybe even slightly better than the D.C. tune.
—Ricko[/quote]
Just to share a personal (and probably boring) experience that has a sorta Oilers/Skins thread.
The Jack Pardee-coached Skins hosted the Oilers and Campbell at RFK early in the 1979 season. From my endzone seat I saw Campbell juke Lemar Parrish out of his jock in the flat on a running play. I’ve seen alot of games in person and a handful of plays are burned in my memory, and that is one of them. He could have easily abused Parrish (probably outweighed him by 50-60)but left him grabbing air. And it wasn’t some Deion Sanders ole’ attempt either. (Ken Houston played in that game too.)
btw, Oilers won 29-27.
But I might have to take exception with Ricko about best song.
Have you hailed your Skins today?
[quote]I was a Zeke Moore fan. Didn’t know anything about him, but as a kid I loved the number 22. That’s why I liked Cyril Pinder of the Bears and Paul Krause of the Vikings as well. As I grew up I appreciated Krause for being a darn good player, too.[/quote]
do you collect ONLY the #22 baseball cards in a set too?
[quote comment=”344199″]That 1939 Eagles t-shirt is beautiful. Great logo.[/quote]
Absolutely. That shirt needs to be reproduced as a T-shirt immediately.
I appreciated Krause for being a darn good player, too.
One of the absolute worse trades ever by the Skins! for f-ing Marlin Mckeever. Still elicits emotional response. (can you tell?)
“But I might have to take exception with Ricko about best song.
Have you hailed your Skins today?”
I said only Oilers song might be a slight bit better (as a commodity) because was simple. Gotta admit, doesn’t take long to learn the lyrics. For most Texans, a couple weeks, tops.
(Ohhhh, I’m just funnin’ ya).
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344202″][quote comment=”344192″]Vacationing in Philly?[/quote]
My thoughts exactly.[/quote]
Uh, birthplace of the nation? Valley Forge? Brandywine? Four major pro sports franchises? Atlantic City and shore points just 1.5 hrs away? Great location to branch out to NYC and Baltimore for day trips (both just 2 hrs away)? Pocono mountains 2 hrs away?
What’s not to like?
A few training camp tidbits:
Marques Colston, always a Reebok guy, is now with the swoosh:
link
link
Minna’s fave, wearing size smedium:
link
Forget Matt Hasselbeck:
link
Bernie Madoff’s cell:
link
Plebe:
link
[quote comment=”344253″][quote comment=”344202″][quote comment=”344192″]Vacationing in Philly?[/quote]
My thoughts exactly.[/quote]
Uh, birthplace of the nation? Valley Forge? Brandywine? Four major pro sports franchises? Atlantic City and shore points just 1.5 hrs away? Great location to branch out to NYC and Baltimore for day trips (both just 2 hrs away)? Pocono mountains 2 hrs away?
What’s not to like?[/quote]
Philly.
It’s “Geographic Zinger Day” at Uni Watch.
[quote comment=”344230″]
Check out Florida Atlantic, I think you’ll approve of that look. The Owls are rarely on TV, so their uniform is unknown to most of the country.[/quote]
The link are undefeated in bowl games! I think their link are fairly good, although I’d rather see blue pants with the white shirts.
And when I think of the Oilers, Warren Moon comes to mind first.
Hey, Matt…
Weren’t you supposed to tell us this guy is running to catch up with the rest of the cyclists?
link
[quote comment=”344247″][quote comment=”344246″][quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
For some reason, I think of Charlie Tolar
:)[/quote]
I was a Zeke Moore fan. Didn’t know anything about him, but as a kid I loved the number 22. That’s why I liked Cyril Pinder of the Bears and Paul Krause of the Vikings as well. As I grew up I appreciated Krause for being a darn good player, too.[/quote]
So, then, your feeling about Doug Flutie would be…
Damn, trying to think of an active NFL player of note who wears 22. Kinda of a forgotten number these days.
(Feel free to shake my head, I’m obviously stuck)
—Ricko[/quote]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
No Phil, I don’t collect #22 cards. :)
Oh yeah, along with Zeke Moore, how could I forget Billy White Shoes? He’s one of the reasons 84 is another of my favorite numbers.
And this beauty too,
link
All these mentions of the Houston Oilers and not one mention of the great Billy “White Shoes” Johnson. All of you, report to the woodshed immediately and bring a switch with you.
[quote comment=”344261″]All these mentions of the Houston Oilers and not one mention of the great Billy “White Shoes” Johnson.
All of you, report to the woodshed immediately and bring a switch with you.[/quote]
Hey, I mentioned a ton of great Oilers. Granted, none of them are NFL Oilers, but still… great Oiler legends.
Do I have to report? LOL
[quote comment=”344261″]All these mentions of the Houston Oilers and not one mention of the great Billy “White Shoes” Johnson.
All of you, report to the woodshed immediately and bring a switch with you.[/quote]
well, not quite (that’s #43, if it don’t link right)
FSN Rocky Mountain also doesn’t appear to have the right fonts on the jersey backs either.
[quote comment=”344261″]All these mentions of the Houston Oilers and not one mention of the great Billy “White Shoes” Johnson.
All of you, report to the woodshed immediately and bring a switch with you.[/quote]
Beat you by a few seconds…see comment 78. ;)
[quote comment=”344259″][quote comment=”344247″][quote comment=”344246″][quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]”When you think about the Oilers, the great Earl Campbell comes to mind.”
Kinda depends on how long you’ve been on the planet, doesn’t it?
I think of Campbell when I think of the Oilers, but also think of silver-helmeted Jerry Levias, George Webster and Ken Houston, and powder-blue helmeted George Blanda, Charlie Hennigan and Billy Cannon.
:)
—Ricko[/quote]
For some reason, I think of Charlie Tolar
:)[/quote]
I was a Zeke Moore fan. Didn’t know anything about him, but as a kid I loved the number 22. That’s why I liked Cyril Pinder of the Bears and Paul Krause of the Vikings as well. As I grew up I appreciated Krause for being a darn good player, too.[/quote]
So, then, your feeling about Doug Flutie would be…
Damn, trying to think of an active NFL player of note who wears 22. Kinda of a forgotten number these days.
(Feel free to shake my head, I’m obviously stuck)
—Ricko[/quote]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
No Phil, I don’t collect #22 cards. :)
Oh yeah, along with Zeke Moore, how could I forget Billy White Shoes? He’s one of the reasons 84 is another of my favorite numbers.[/quote]
I don’t think anyone’s calling him great, but link.
Apparently Phil has the Houston Oiler song stuck in his head.
Okay….everybody….
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
Houston Oilers number one”
(feel free to wave your LUV YA BLUE placard)
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
“Houston Oilers number one.”
repeat. there you go. repeat again. and again.
Perfect.
—Ricko
don’t think anyone’s calling him great, but here’s a #22 of note
His number should be 40.
:)
[quote comment=”344200″][quote comment=”344185″]Steve McNair decal link = 404[/quote]
Steve McNair was a great quarterback, I don’t think anyone can debate that. That being said, am I the only one that questions why the team would memorialize a guy who was cheating on his wife and the mother of his four children with a nearly underage waitress that ended up killing him in a murder/suicide?[/quote]
I guess it is you that are without sin, since you have cast the first stone.
Are you serious? Steve McNair was the defining player of the Jeff Fisher-era thus far in Tennessee and was the guy that really helped bridge the gap between the move from Houston and the pre-Titans days in Tennessee.
Regardless of the circumstances of his death, it would be downright disrespectful if they DIDN’T honor him somehow.
[quote comment=”344259″][quote comment=”344247″][quote comment=”344246″][quote comment=”344219″][quote comment=”344216″]I was a Zeke Moore fan. Didn’t know anything about him, but as a kid I loved the number 22. That’s why I liked Cyril Pinder of the Bears and Paul Krause of the Vikings as well. As I grew up I appreciated Krause for being a darn good player, too.[/quote]
So, then, your feeling about Doug Flutie would be…
Damn, trying to think of an active NFL player of note who wears 22. Kinda of a forgotten number these days.
(Feel free to shake my head, I’m obviously stuck)
—Ricko[/quote]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
No Phil, I don’t collect #22 cards. :)[/quote]
Roger Wherli was another #22 I really liked link
One of the last I can think of that stood out for me was Marcus Dupree link
Speaking of the Oilers, does anyone out there have a photo of Jeff Alm, showing his NOB?
[quote comment=”344202″][quote comment=”344192″]Vacationing in Philly?[/quote]
My thoughts exactly.[/quote]
I guess you guys don’t realize that the tourism industry is pretty big in Philadelphia (Philly is the 11th most visited city in the US), and on any given summer day, there are tons of tour buses, tour carriages, and tour boats loaded with people who make Philadelphia either a stop on their vacation or the primary part of it.
Also don’t forget, it’s less than two hours from a lot of shore points.
ZEKE MOORE …..
Zeke Moore figures into a story of my attending an Oilers/Saints game in 1976 that I still recall as being the best, most memorable Saints game that I have ever attended.
The Hank Stram Saints are playing the Bum Phillips/Pastorini Oilers in the Superdome, and fall behind maybe 31-10. Bum Phillips pulls some of his starters, even replaces Pastorini with John Hadl. The Saints then mount a furious 4th quarter comeback behind Bobby Douglass (yes, that Bobby Douglass !!!) and close score to 31-26. The crowd is going NUTS!!!
Next Saints possession, Saint WR Tinker Owens goes for and/or catches a pass, and Oilers DB Zeke Moore gouges Tinker Owens eyes with his fingers after the play. Either a turnover or change of possession is the result. very controversial play.
After the play, Owens is flailing, blind, and obviously injured and blinded. The Saints players go after Zeke Moore. Team benches clear, fights abound, total pandemonium in the Superdome. It takes a long while for the referees to calm things down.
Finally, Tinker Owens is taken from the field, and it becomes apparent that Zeke Moore committed a serious, cheapshot gouging of Tinker Owens’ eyes. After a loooooooooong conversation and huddle, the referees eject Zeke Moore from the game. Cops walk Zeke Moore from the Oilers bench, along the sideline, to the endzone field exit tunnel. The crowd is booing Zeke Moore profusely, loudest that I ever remember in 30 plus Superdome years.
And at the exact right moment, a fan leaps from his endzone seat, onto the field, unbeknownst to the cops or Zeke Moore, and runs up behind Zeke Moore and in full view of 70,000 screaming fans kicks Zeke Moore squarely in his ass, to the immense delight of everyone involved (other than the Oilers). The boos turn to cheers, and the ass-kicker fan is given a standing ovation.
Pure catharsis!!!
The Saints lost, 31-26, but it was the most memorable and exciting Saints game that I ever attended.
This “exclusivity” crap is getting out of control.
link
[quote comment=”344206″][quote comment=”344204″]What was the shade of red in the Houston Oilers jersey, was it bright red, or was it darker shade?
Did it remain consistent?[/quote]
I don’t know that the Oilers ever used anything but standard issue red (“scarlet” in the catalogs) from Day One in 1960. Lighting conditions, of course, always create illusions.
—Ricko[/quote]
create illusions – as in Astrodome lighting.
I thought what you’re saying is true, but remember as a child being disappointed with gradually coming to that realization – I always thought a darker red, would have looked better – (the Astrodome lighting took care of the issue by itself). Although I agree with the overall positive sentiment towards the uniform.
I do seem to recall another 22 for the Cardinals…pretty good running back by the name of Emmitt Smith link
As much as I hate to point it out, here’s another 22.
link
[quote comment=”344185″]Steve McNair decal link = 404[/quote]
So’s he, by the way.
(Too soon?)
I think the helmet decal is appropriate. If they retired his number…well, I don’t know. If they did it immediately, it might be an overreactive, Korey Stringer-esque retirement.
It’s very possible that the Titans would have retired #9 at some point anyway – and even before this, it was likely there’d be a de facto retirement (a la #12 in Pittsburgh, etc.). Solely my opinion, but I think a little distance would be good, the helmet decal is appropriate without saying you’re condoning anything and everybody moves on.
That’s just my opinion, though.
As for the 70s coaching attire, I sent Paul a great screengrab of Don Coryell in all red with white athletic socks and black shoes and what we used to call “crabbin'” pants from 1977 a while back. He never used it to my knowledge. I’ll see if I can scare it up when I get home.
For those who don’t know the Oilers song…
link
It’s the last part, the chorus (and yeah, I messed up the lyrics, I have hearing loss issues), that, at games, fans repeated over and over and over.
Careful, the damn thing will get stuck in your head (as the writer of my share of commerical jingles in the past, that’s what I appreciate about it).
—Ricko
link.
[quote comment=”344267″]Apparently Phil has the Houston Oiler song stuck in his head.
Okay….everybody….
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
Houston Oilers number one”
(feel free to wave your LUV YA BLUE placard)
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
“Houston Oilers number one.”
repeat. there you go. repeat again. and again.
Perfect.
—Ricko[/quote]
Yeah, it’s too bad the newer NFL team in Houston wasn’t able to retain the Oiler name and heritage. The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL, along with Buffalo and Atlanta. The Falcons need to ditch their current setup, and go back to the red helmet of the William Andrews era. The logo is fine, but a black falcon against a red background pops out more than the current helmet.
[quote comment=”344276″]I do seem to recall another 22 for the Cardinals…pretty good running back by the name of Emmitt Smith link
Of course, but I was thinking of—as said—active NFL players of note.
Looking back, there’s Bob Hayes, too…also a Cowboy #22.
(I’m not being huffy, just not wanting to look stupid)
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344281″]Yeah, it’s too bad the newer NFL team in Houston wasn’t able to retain the Oiler name and heritage.[/quote]
You gotta admit…Houston Oilers is one of the more appropriate and simple and good names in sports history.
I’m not sure Bob McNair did or didn’t want it or wouldn’t have if it hadn’t been retired. Maybe the bad blood at the end soured the 35-year relationship, I don’t know.
Taking the step of permanently retiring the name…I still don’t know exactly why the NFL felt the need.
[quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.
22’s (current; sorry about that oversight)
carlos rogers
asante samuel
[quote comment=”344281″]The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL[/quote]
i agree, that of the six possible uni combos, these five SUCK…however,
this one is damn fine…and highly underrated
the rest tho…awful
[quote comment=”344281″][quote comment=”344267″]Apparently Phil has the Houston Oiler song stuck in his head.
Okay….everybody….
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
Houston Oilers number one”
(feel free to wave your LUV YA BLUE placard)
“Oilers, Houston Oilers,
“Houston Oilers number one.”
repeat. there you go. repeat again. and again.
Perfect.
—Ricko[/quote]
Yeah, it’s too bad the newer NFL team in Houston wasn’t able to retain the Oiler name and heritage. The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL, along with Buffalo and Atlanta. The Falcons need to ditch their current setup, and go back to the red helmet of the William Andrews era. The logo is fine, but a black falcon against a red background pops out more than the current helmet.[/quote]
Even more to the point, Black or very dark helmets look horrible in many Domed Stadiums, particularly when worn with dark uniforms of the sdame color, as the lighting in many of the domes do not allow for the colors to be appreciated.
The Vikings are probably the only exception that can think of, and perhaps it is because the Purple is not as dark, or that the HHH dome lighting may be better than most.
I am a fan of the Saints aborted Black Helmet (1970), and many Saints fans aggitate for it to return to this day, but it would look HORRIBLE in the Superdome. Tulane University went from White helmets to Dark Green helmets in 1998, and the players seem lost and unfollowable given the Superdome’s lighting, etc. Not a really wise or practical look given the circumstances.
That said, the current Falcons Red/Black/or White jerseys when worn with the White Pants are nowhere near as horrible as the current Bills, Bengals or Titans unis. Nowhere near as bad.
[quote comment=”344286″][quote comment=”344281″]The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL[/quote]
i agree, that of the six possible uni combos, link…however,
link…and highly underrated
the rest tho…awful[/quote]
AGREED. A very good look. It even makes Vince Jones look good …
I have never seen the White jersey/White pants combo in action, but it did look good on the earlier Madden video games, where it was the titans’ default road uni.
I am at a loss as to whether the Titans have ever actually worn it.
[quote comment=”344286″][quote comment=”344281″]The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL[/quote]
i agree, that of the six possible uni combos, link…however,
link…and highly underrated
the rest tho…awful[/quote]
Have Titans ever worn powder jersey, white pants?
That’s the one I’d like to see, just to evaluate it.
Would hark back to the Oilers TOO much for them, maybe.
(Keep singing, Phil. “We’re the Oilers, Houston Oilers…:”)
—Ricko
Nick, thanks for the eye-opening story (sorry Tinker Owens, pun intended) about Zeke Moore.
He’s an ambassador for the Texans now. Their website mentions his “hard hitting and agressive play” but conveniently leaves off his eye-gouging incident. Sounds as if he’d make a fine ambassador for the Raiders…
guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.
:)
link
[quote comment=”344278″][quote comment=”344185″]Steve McNair decal link = 404[/quote]
So’s he, by the way.
(Too soon?)[/quote]
Incorrect though. He was at least *found*…
[quote comment=”344284″]I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
One might argue that a true traditionalist would recognize that original traditions of football link hold true to link and that link held onto that tradition link (or, in some cases, link).*
*I just realized…another #21 for the Rams was Nolan Cromwell, who had been a college quarterback and was – IIRC – LA’s disaster quarterback for a while (though he only threw one pass in his NFL career).
Anyway, I’m not saying you’re wrong to dislike the look or think it’s out of place. Just saying that the tradition of which you speak isn’t absolute, nor does it hold up the farther back you go.
The coolness, to me, is in the fact that you rarely see it anymore.
[quote comment=”344284″][quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
Or, for the traditionalist, on the occasional wideout: Lennie Moore, Tommy McDonald, Ahmad Rashad, Jimmy Orr, Bob Hayes, Gary Garrison, Haven Moses, Fred Biletnikoff, Cliff Branch….
—Ricko
I don’t know if this link to FIFA will work. Here goes.
link
The Easter Island team is in red. They lost to Colo Colo in white.
[quote comment=”344255″][quote comment=”344253″][quote comment=”344202″][quote comment=”344192″]Vacationing in Philly?[/quote]
My thoughts exactly.[/quote]
Uh, birthplace of the nation? Valley Forge? Brandywine? Four major pro sports franchises? Atlantic City and shore points just 1.5 hrs away? Great location to branch out to NYC and Baltimore for day trips (both just 2 hrs away)? Pocono mountains 2 hrs away?
What’s not to like?[/quote]
Philly.[/quote]
Q: What’s worse than a vacation in Philly? A: A day trip to Baltimore
[quote comment=”344284″][quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
That “tradition” is relatively new, as in the last 30 years. John Hadl wore #21, Ron Lancaster in the CFL wore #23, and if you go waaay back you have Sammy Baugh wearing #33 and Otto Graham wearing #60 (yeah that was in the AAFC, but still). It wasn’t until the NFL went completely anal in the early ’70s with their numbering system that you couldn’t wear anything except 1-19.
Guess you’d hate CFL receivers wearing numbers in the 70s, as we discussed about a month ago. It looks weird at first, but you get used to it.
[quote comment=”344289″][quote comment=”344286″][quote comment=”344281″]The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL[/quote]
i agree, that of the six possible uni combos, link…however,
link…and highly underrated
the rest tho…awful[/quote]
Have Titans ever worn powder jersey, white pants?
That’s the one I’d like to see, just to evaluate it.
Would hark back to the Oilers TOO much for them, maybe.
(Keep singing, Phil. “We’re the Oilers, Houston Oilers…:”)
—Ricko[/quote]
link (except for the player with glasses, who is wearing the “no contact” pants)
[quote comment=”344288″][quote comment=”344286″][quote comment=”344281″]The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL[/quote]
i agree, that of the six possible uni combos, link…however,
link…and highly underrated
the rest tho…awful[/quote]
AGREED. A very good look. It even makes Vince Jones look good …
I have never seen the White jersey/White pants combo in action, but it did look good on the earlier Madden video games, where it was the titans’ default road uni.
I am at a loss as to whether the Titans have ever actually worn it.[/quote]
will keep lookin’ but…
white top/powder pants
white top/dark blue pants
dark blue top/dark blue pants
dark blue top/white pants
dark blue top/powder pants
powder top/dark blue pants
powder top/powder pants
——-
that’s seven (out of 9, not six)…to my knowledge, there was never powder over white nor white over white
oh timmy brulia? can you help?
[quote comment=”344293″][quote comment=”344284″]I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
One might argue that a true traditionalist would recognize that original traditions of football link hold true to link and that link held onto that tradition link (or, in some cases, link).*
*I just realized…another #21 for the Rams was Nolan Cromwell, who had been a college quarterback and was – IIRC – LA’s disaster quarterback for a while (though he only threw one pass in his NFL career).
Anyway, I’m not saying you’re wrong to dislike the look or think it’s out of place. Just saying that the tradition of which you speak isn’t absolute, nor does it hold up the farther back you go.
The coolness, to me, is in the fact that you rarely see it anymore.[/quote]
It’s all what you’re used to.
I still think this numbers-in-the-teens for wideouts is unnecessary. No team is going to carry 10 WR or TE, you wouldn’t think. So no real reason not to keep them in the 80s…other than free agent signings finding “their” number might already be taken.
Oh, they’ve been plenty of wideouts in the teens…Alworth, Maynard and others…but it wasn’t all that common. 20’s more common cuz, technically, one of the wideouts is in the backfield most of the time.
Isn’t bad, just takes some getting used to…all those QBs in the game at once. LOL
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344294″][quote comment=”344284″][quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
Or, for the traditionalist, on the occasional wideout: Lennie Moore, Tommy McDonald, Ahmad Rashad, Jimmy Orr, Bob Hayes, Gary Garrison, Haven Moses, Fred Biletnikoff, Cliff Branch….
—Ricko[/quote]
I miss #00, Kenny Burrough. Another casualty of the NFL fashion police – you can’t wear that number anymore.
[quote comment=”344295″]I don’t know if this link to FIFA will work. Here goes.
link
The Easter Island team is in red. They lost to Colo Colo in white.[/quote]
So their nickname is, like, the Easter Island Big Giant Heads?
[quote comment=”344285″]22’s (current; sorry about that oversight)
carlos rogers
asante samuel[/quote]
Nate Clements
[quote comment=”344301″][quote comment=”344294″][quote comment=”344284″][quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
Or, for the traditionalist, on the occasional wideout: Lennie Moore, Tommy McDonald, Ahmad Rashad, Jimmy Orr, Bob Hayes, Gary Garrison, Haven Moses, Fred Biletnikoff, Cliff Branch….
—Ricko[/quote]
I miss #00, Kenny Burrough. Another casualty of the NFL fashion police – you can’t wear that number anymore.[/quote]
At home I have a couple(?) B&W photos of him wearing 00 for the Saints against the Vikings at the Met. Not easy to find shots of him with Saints. And I know you haven’t seen these…cuz I took ’em. Used sideline pass that day, and my photographer handed me one of his Nikons and said, “Look busy.”
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344286″][quote comment=”344281″]The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL[/quote]
i agree, that of the six possible uni combos, link…however,
link…and highly underrated
the rest tho…awful[/quote]
Before I clicked – that’s the one I guessed , and I agree
Other numbers I’d like to see:
Heinz Ward: 57
Sonny Sixkiller: 40
Jeff Saturday: 6
Bill Olds: 88
[quote comment=”344300″][quote comment=”344293″][quote comment=”344284″]I still think this numbers-in-the-teens for wideouts is unnecessary. No team is going to carry 10 WR or TE, you wouldn’t think. So no real reason not to keep them in the 80s…other than free agent signings finding “their” number might already be taken.
Oh, they’ve been plenty of wideouts in the teens…Alworth, Maynard and others…but it wasn’t all that common. 20’s more common cuz, technically, one of the wideouts is in the backfield most of the time.
Isn’t bad, just takes some getting used to…all those QBs in the game at once. LOL
—Ricko[/quote]
If you have six or seven receivers and three tight ends, and one or two retired numbers, you’ll need other nubmers besides the 80s.
I wish the NFL would lighten up on the numbering system. I understand the need to distinguish between eligible receivers and linemen (although Mel Hein wearing 7 at center and Jim Otto wearing 00 was cool), but other than that who cares if QBs wear 20 or kickers wear 33 or running backs wear 5. I don’t buy the argument that it separates the NFL from looking like the colleges. That just seems to be a condescending slap in the face to the system that provides them with their players.
[quote comment=”344297″][quote comment=”344284″][quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
That “tradition” is relatively new, as in the last 30 years. John Hadl wore #21, Ron Lancaster in the CFL wore #23, and if you go waaay back you have Sammy Baugh wearing #33 and Otto Graham wearing #60 (yeah that was in the AAFC, but still). It wasn’t until the NFL went completely anal in the early ’70s with their numbering system that you couldn’t wear anything except 1-19.
Guess you’d hate CFL receivers wearing numbers in the 70s, as we discussed about a month ago. It looks weird at first, but you get used to it.[/quote]
Ok, so “tradition” may not be the best word, but I do like the “order” of the NFL’s numbering system. I’m not a fan of receivers wearing low numbers though. Had I seen those odd QB numbers back in the day, I’d have objected too, and said, “hey, can we get some order here!”
Raphael Septien: 7
Tra Thomas: 3
Kent Nix: 9
Rashad Baker: 13
[quote comment=”344302″][quote comment=”344295″]I don’t know if this link to FIFA will work. Here goes.
link
The Easter Island team is in red. They lost to Colo Colo in white.[/quote]
So their nickname is, like, the Easter Island Big Giant Heads?[/quote]
Well, they call it Rapa Nui, you can see the name on the socks, so it would have to be Rapa Nui Big Heads.
The crest on the front of the jersey is the reverse of the island’s flag which is red on white. I’m assuming everything else is sponsors.
[quote comment=”344308″][quote comment=”344297″][quote comment=”344284″][quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
That “tradition” is relatively new, as in the last 30 years. John Hadl wore #21, Ron Lancaster in the CFL wore #23, and if you go waaay back you have Sammy Baugh wearing #33 and Otto Graham wearing #60 (yeah that was in the AAFC, but still). It wasn’t until the NFL went completely anal in the early ’70s with their numbering system that you couldn’t wear anything except 1-19.
Guess you’d hate CFL receivers wearing numbers in the 70s, as we discussed about a month ago. It looks weird at first, but you get used to it.[/quote]
Ok, so “tradition” may not be the best word, but I do like the “order” of the NFL’s numbering system. I’m not a fan of receivers wearing low numbers though. Had I seen those odd QB numbers back in the day, I’d have objected too, and said, “hey, can we get some order here!”[/quote]
Fair enough. You sound like a friend of mine, who is a big Browns fan. He was glad when “order” was imposed on the numbers. When Bernie Kosar was drafted, I got him a white t-shirt with “20” in brown and “KOSAR” as the NOB. He laughed – never wore the shirt, but he still has it. I almost made one for myself, but just couldn’t imagine wearing something Browns-related.
[quote comment=”344264″]FSN Rocky Mountain also doesn’t appear to have the right fonts on the jersey backs either.[/quote]
That’s because they just grabbed images of the old replicas, inaccurate fonts and all.
link
[quote comment=”344307″][quote comment=”344300″][quote comment=”344293″][quote comment=”344284″]I still think this numbers-in-the-teens for wideouts is unnecessary. No team is going to carry 10 WR or TE, you wouldn’t think. So no real reason not to keep them in the 80s…other than free agent signings finding “their” number might already be taken.
Oh, they’ve been plenty of wideouts in the teens…Alworth, Maynard and others…but it wasn’t all that common. 20’s more common cuz, technically, one of the wideouts is in the backfield most of the time.
Isn’t bad, just takes some getting used to…all those QBs in the game at once. LOL
—Ricko[/quote]
If you have six or seven receivers and three tight ends, and one or two retired numbers, you’ll need other nubmers besides the 80s.
I wish the NFL would lighten up on the numbering system. I understand the need to distinguish between eligible receivers and linemen (although Mel Hein wearing 7 at center and Jim Otto wearing 00 was cool), but other than that who cares if QBs wear 20 or kickers wear 33 or running backs wear 5. I don’t buy the argument that it separates the NFL from looking like the colleges. That just seems to be a condescending slap in the face to the system that provides them with their players.[/quote]
I agree with you and that was, obliquely I guess, my point. Instead of limiting WR to the teens, just lighten up. Go back to the ’60s-’70s mindset that, hey, they’re eligible receivers. Let ’em wear 0-49, if they want, but confine TE’s, generally, to the 80s, since they are on the line. 40s on a TE look kinda weird, too.
I mean, Charley Taylor (42), Bobby Mitchell (49), Paul Warfield (42), Eddie Bell (7), Randy Vataha (18), Pete Gent (35), Bernie Casey (30), Gino Cappelletti (20) and others didn’t exactly confuse the hell out of fans, officials or the other team about what position they were playing.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344242″][quote comment=”344193″][quote comment=”344181″]Not used to seeing the Houston Oilers so predominately displayed.[/quote]
I’m not a Houston Oilers fan, but they did have sharp uniforms and the white helmets were the best look.[/quote]
I disagree. When I was a kid, I liked the Oilers simply because they looked like this link
They went 1-13 in that uniform, but I still liked them. Then they switched to white helmets (and coincidentally got better), but they were no longer my favorite team.[/quote]
I can totally relate, case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link. Good thing is, they had a couple of decent seasons finishing a respectable 9-7 in the tough AFC West, before they switched to the white shoes, stripeless socks, and logo on the sleeves.
The funny thing about that Oiler fight song is that the Dolphins used the same song note-for-note, though there were additional lyrics such as,
“Miami has the Dolphins
The greatest football team
They take the ball from goal to goal
Like no one’s ever seen”
If memory serves, so many people thought the song was corny that they had a contest to select a new song at one point.
Billy “White Shoes” Johnson: I believe he invented the touchdown dance. There should be a statue of him somewhere with his legs bowed out.
[quote comment=”344293″][quote comment=”344284″]I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
One might argue that a true traditionalist would recognize that original traditions of football link hold true to link and that link held onto that tradition link (or, in some cases, link).*
*I just realized…another #21 for the Rams was Nolan Cromwell, who had been a college quarterback and was – IIRC – LA’s disaster quarterback for a while (though he only threw one pass in his NFL career).
Anyway, I’m not saying you’re wrong to dislike the look or think it’s out of place. Just saying that the tradition of which you speak isn’t absolute, nor does it hold up the farther back you go.
The coolness, to me, is in the fact that you rarely see it anymore.[/quote]
Nicely put together response KT. Indeed, a good point you made.
[quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?
[quote comment=”344300″][quote comment=”344293″][quote comment=”344284″]I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
One might argue that a true traditionalist would recognize that original traditions of football link hold true to link and that link held onto that tradition link (or, in some cases, link).*
*I just realized…another #21 for the Rams was Nolan Cromwell, who had been a college quarterback and was – IIRC – LA’s disaster quarterback for a while (though he only threw one pass in his NFL career).
Anyway, I’m not saying you’re wrong to dislike the look or think it’s out of place. Just saying that the tradition of which you speak isn’t absolute, nor does it hold up the farther back you go.
The coolness, to me, is in the fact that you rarely see it anymore.[/quote]
It’s all what you’re used to.
I still think this numbers-in-the-teens for wideouts is unnecessary. No team is going to carry 10 WR or TE, you wouldn’t think. So no real reason not to keep them in the 80s…other than free agent signings finding “their” number might already be taken.
Oh, they’ve been plenty of wideouts in the teens…Alworth, Maynard and others…but it wasn’t all that common. 20’s more common cuz, technically, one of the wideouts is in the backfield most of the time.
Isn’t bad, just takes some getting used to…all those QBs in the game at once. LOL
—Ricko[/quote]
Right, old football terminology stated in a two back, two receiver formation, the WR on the line of scrimmage was considered the split end. The was an outshoot of older terminology where the tight end as we know it, was really just referred to as an end. I’m guessing the term tight end only came to be once formations were opened up.
The other receiver in said formation was normally referred to as a flanker, short for flankerback, meaning that player was in the backfield, techincally speaking. This could be the reason that you saw numbers in the 20-49 range for wide receivers in that late 60s, early 70s era.
[quote comment=”344315″]The funny thing about that Oiler fight song is that the Dolphins used the same song note-for-note, though there were additional lyrics such as,
“Miami has the Dolphins
The greatest football team
They take the ball from goal to goal
Like no one’s ever seen”
If memory serves, so many people thought the song was corny that they had a contest to select a new song at one point.
Billy “White Shoes” Johnson: I believe he invented the touchdown dance. There should be a statue of him somewhere with his legs bowed out.[/quote]
Elmo Wright, in college with Houston and then in NFL with KC Chiefs, did what he called a “victory dance” when he scored.
Held his hands up, ball in one of them, and ran in place, knees high.
That predated “White Shoes”. And it wasn’t really much of a dance. But that’s what he called it, so, technically…
—Ricko
FWIW
Don’t know about the others, but Mitchell and Charley Taylor both started out as running backs and were used as “flankers” in the parlance of the times. So, numbers in the 40’s, I guess. But you’re right-it wasn’t confusing to anybody.
[quote comment=”344318″][quote comment=”344300″][quote comment=”344293″][quote comment=”344284″]I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
One might argue that a true traditionalist would recognize that original traditions of football link hold true to link and that link held onto that tradition link (or, in some cases, link).*
*I just realized…another #21 for the Rams was Nolan Cromwell, who had been a college quarterback and was – IIRC – LA’s disaster quarterback for a while (though he only threw one pass in his NFL career).
Anyway, I’m not saying you’re wrong to dislike the look or think it’s out of place. Just saying that the tradition of which you speak isn’t absolute, nor does it hold up the farther back you go.
The coolness, to me, is in the fact that you rarely see it anymore.[/quote]
It’s all what you’re used to.
I still think this numbers-in-the-teens for wideouts is unnecessary. No team is going to carry 10 WR or TE, you wouldn’t think. So no real reason not to keep them in the 80s…other than free agent signings finding “their” number might already be taken.
Oh, they’ve been plenty of wideouts in the teens…Alworth, Maynard and others…but it wasn’t all that common. 20’s more common cuz, technically, one of the wideouts is in the backfield most of the time.
Isn’t bad, just takes some getting used to…all those QBs in the game at once. LOL
—Ricko[/quote]
Right, old football terminology stated in a two back, two receiver formation, the WR on the line of scrimmage was considered the split end. The was an outshoot of older terminology where the tight end as we know it, was really just referred to as an end. I’m guessing the term tight end only came to be once formations were opened up.
The other receiver in said formation was normally referred to as a flanker, short for flankerback, meaning that player was in the backfield, techincally speaking. This could be the reason that you saw numbers in the 20-49 range for wide receivers in that late 60s, early 70s era.[/quote]
Precisely the reason, in fact.
[quote comment=”344291″]guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.
:)
link
I remember seeing a photo of Otto and it must have been shortly after he switched to #14. It was a close up and you can still see the stiching where the #60 was.
Obviously in a day and age when uni sets were recycled from year to year!
[quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
Very similar to Texas Stadium. I remember seeing the field in person for the first time at 13 and being amazed at how much of a crown there was.
[quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
so, there was a drainage issue with the kingdome?
[quote comment=”344199″]That 1939 Eagles t-shirt is beautiful. Great logo.[/quote]
I like that shirt a lot
[quote comment=”344306″]Other numbers I’d like to see:
Heinz Ward: 57
Sonny Sixkiller: 40
Jeff Saturday: 6
Bill Olds: 88[/quote]
86’s name is hines ward, not heinz ward.
[quote comment=”344325″][quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
so, there was a drainage issue with the kingdome?[/quote]
Ain’t the Kingdome. We went through this a few months back, but I’m having a hard time remembering the location. Preseason game for sure — Spokane, maybe?
[quote comment=”344320″]FWIW
Don’t know about the others, but Mitchell and Charley Taylor both started out as running backs and were used as “flankers” in the parlance of the times. So, numbers in the 40’s, I guess. But you’re right-it wasn’t confusing to anybody.[/quote]
Yeah, maybe I heard that about Taylor and Mitchell.
Lennie Moore, too, I think. ;)
And in today’s NFL they’d probably have to change numbers.
Talk about anal. But that’s the No Fun League we know and love.
Warfield, for example, was RB in college, Browns drafted him to play wideout but gave him his college number. Same story wth Tommy McDonald. USFL let Anthony Carter keep his #1.
AND—OH GREAT GOD IN HEAVEN—THE PACKERS LET PAUL HORNUNG KEEP HIS NOTRE DAME #5 EVEN AFTER IT WAS OBVIOUS HE’D NEVER PLAY QB IN NFL!!!!
Know what, the NFL survived and thrived, and the world is still spinning, despite such numerical system discord. Amazing, huh.
Just sayin’, makes sense to ID eligible and ineligible. The rest isn’t really such a big deal.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344325″][quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
so, there was a drainage issue with the kingdome?[/quote]
Though we established that photo from a preseason game in Spokane or something?
[quote comment=”344325″][quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
so, there was a drainage issue with the kingdome?[/quote]
unless that was maybe husky stadium? did they play there in 1994 or 1995?
[quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
Is that a neutral-site exhibition game? Note the stands – looks like bleachers and a wall on the top right. Plus it looks more like an overcast day than the inside of a dome.
I liked those jerseys, Mike, but I really liked the bird on the sleeve ones, too.
One of my biggest regrets was donating my old Curt Warner (yes I spelled it right – the Penn State RB) Seahawks jersey. I don’t regret the concept of donating, just that particular item. Besides, I’m sure some homeless guy was thinking, “Gee thanks. At least the mesh keeps half the cold wind off my body…”
If it wasnt’ authentic it was pretty close. And it was only 25 bucks. Even in the mid-80s that was a deal for an authentic jersey. The birds on the sleeves just made an already cool jersey even cooler, IMHO.
[quote comment=”344327″][quote comment=”344306″]Other numbers I’d like to see:
Heinz Ward: 57
Sonny Sixkiller: 40
Jeff Saturday: 6
Bill Olds: 88[/quote]
86’s name is hines ward, not heinz ward.[/quote]
sorry, i was thinking of Duncan Heinz.
:)
[quote comment=”344297″][quote comment=”344284″][quote comment=”344259″]
Loved it when Flutie wore 22 for B.C. and the Generals (and B.C. in the CFL as well). The Flutie Hail Mary game was great not just for the final play, but because both QBs wore numbers in the 20s. Kosar wore 20 for Miami.
Yeah, I can’t think of a great #22 off the top of my head now. Have to think about that.
[/quote]
I guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.[/quote]
That “tradition” is relatively new, as in the last 30 years. John Hadl wore #21, Ron Lancaster in the CFL wore #23, and if you go waaay back you have Sammy Baugh wearing #33 and Otto Graham wearing #60 (yeah that was in the AAFC, but still). It wasn’t until the NFL went completely anal in the early ’70s with their numbering system that you couldn’t wear anything except 1-19.
Guess you’d hate CFL receivers wearing numbers in the 70s, as we discussed about a month ago. It looks weird at first, but you get used to it.[/quote]
I kinda like to see the monotony broken by QBs wearing #20, #21 or #22. I played QB in High School and always watched the QBs and their 3s, and while I did not want a numeral in the 20’s, I thought it broke the boredom a bit.
Around the time John Hadl went to the Rams and had that good first season in 1973, there was an outburst of QB’s in New Orleans wearing #21 at the playground and High School level. Really widespead for the time, and a bit weird since 1.) Rams were not particularly liked by Saints fans, 2.) Hadl wore #21 for YEARS prior with the Chargers, but it wasn’y until 1973 with the Rams that it caught on, and 3.) Hadl really only lasted a season with the Rams, replaced by James Harris and was traded mid-season 1974 to the Packers … where he was at first forced to wear #12, intil their #21 was traded/cut and #21 became available.
Still, the #21 QB fad ran for awhile in New Orleans …. weird.
Was it like that around other parts of the country at that time?
When it comes to players complaining about the numbers they can or can’t get I’ve always wondered why they can’t just list them different on the depth chart? You have free substitution in football so you can take any player on your roster and play them anywhere.
So if Reggie Bush wants #5 list him as a kicker. If Chris Cooley (just to grab a name out of the air) want number 40 just list him as a fullback.
Problem solved neh?
[quote comment=”344327″][quote comment=”344306″]Other numbers I’d like to see:
Heinz Ward: 57
Sonny Sixkiller: 40
Jeff Saturday: 6
Bill Olds: 88[/quote]
86’s name is hines ward, not heinz ward.[/quote]
A tribute to Pittburgh-based Heinz Co. link
[quote comment=”344314″][quote comment=”344242″][quote comment=”344193″][quote comment=”344181″]Not used to seeing the Houston Oilers so predominately displayed.[/quote]
I’m not a Houston Oilers fan, but they did have sharp uniforms and the white helmets were the best look.[/quote]
I disagree. When I was a kid, I liked the Oilers simply because they looked like this link
They went 1-13 in that uniform, but I still liked them. Then they switched to white helmets (and coincidentally got better), but they were no longer my favorite team.[/quote]
I can totally relate, case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link. Good thing is, they had a couple of decent seasons finishing a respectable 9-7 in the tough AFC West, before they switched to the white shoes, stripeless socks, and logo on the sleeves.[/quote]
Totally agree – They should have kept this uni and moved the TV numbers to the shoulders if needed.
[quote comment=”344183″]Shameful use of gradients and drop shadows in that Lakers logo.
Perhaps they were onto something with a mid-century, nearly art deco type treatment (“50” and “fifty” “years”)to celebrate the founding era. But they blew it.
Truly AWFUL graphic design work. Current sports logo design in general needs an enema.[/quote]
Could not agree more. This is putrid.
Did Joey Buss do this in photoshop?
[quote comment=”344322″][quote comment=”344291″]guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.
:)
link
I remember seeing a photo of Otto and it must have been shortly after he switched to #14. It was a close up and you can still see the stiching where the #60 was.
Obviously in a day and age when uni sets were recycled from year to year![/quote]
kek,
I too remember seeing that photo, the caption below the photo even commented on the stitching being left over from the numeral change.
I believe I saw the photo and caption in a hardcover football book some time (pre-UW) ago.
[quote comment=”344330″][quote comment=”344325″][quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
so, there was a drainage issue with the kingdome?[/quote]
Though we established that photo from a preseason game in Spokane or something?[/quote]
Yep, it was a pre-season game in Spokane.
[quote comment=”344331″][quote comment=”344325″][quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
so, there was a drainage issue with the kingdome?[/quote]
unless that was maybe husky stadium? did they play there in 1994 or 1995?[/quote]
That 1976 pre-season game pic. was played in Spokane. They played in Husky stadium in 1994, for five or so games when the Kingdome ceiling came down a bit. Then, they played at Husky stadium for the 2000 season for the Qwest Field build.
I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet, but there is at least one WR with his number in the 20’s.
link
[quote comment=”344331]unless that was maybe husky stadium? did they play there in 1994 or 1995?[/quote]
5 games in 1994, after the cieling tiles started falling out in the Kingdome.
[quote comment=”344342″]I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet, but there is at least one WR with his number in the 20’s.
link
Good catch! And a good start. Let’s see some more, NFL.
By the way, full moon tonight, so be careful going home or going out tonight. Here’s a little something to commemorate the event link
[quote comment=”344341″][quote comment=”344331″][quote comment=”344325″][quote comment=”344323″][quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
One of them crowned fields we was talkin’ ‘ bout that make having the Winter Classic in a many football stadia difficult.
But, please, let’s just accept it and not make Teebz explain it all again.
—Ricko[/quote]
so, there was a drainage issue with the kingdome?[/quote]
unless that was maybe husky stadium? did they play there in 1994 or 1995?[/quote]
That 1976 pre-season game pic. was played in Spokane. They played in Husky stadium in 1994, for five or so games when the Kingdome ceiling came down a bit. Then, they played at Husky stadium for the 2000 season for the Qwest Field build.[/quote]
thanks mike (and ricko)
i realized (and why later asked about husky field) after my first post that the folks in the stands looked awfully heavily dressed for an indoor game
no drainage problems in the kingdome, tho, right ;)
[quote comment=”344345″]
thanks mike (and ricko)[/quote]
Fuckin’ ingrate.
Today’s topic reminds me – when I had ESPN Classic I taped more than 6 hours of This Week In Pro Football with Pat Summerall, Tom Brookshier and Charlie Jones. Great great stuff, and I’ll bet I could get some more screen shots to add to this.
They could do so much better than that logo, especially since they used to have a ghostly rider on horseback at the games.[/quote]
Heck, even the school’s link provides a great start for a new logo.[/quote]
And, just because I apparently can’t leave this alone, there’s link on the Athletics site.[/quote]
Hey Chance, they still have a rider present the game balls at the football games. Mostly just for Homecoming, he’ll ride right in from the parade, but they still do it.[/quote]
Did Kaukauna High School have an in-school souvenir store? link
Flip, yeah, there’s a store in the school. Kids taking business classes learn to run it, and others in the tech department can screen print the t-shirts that they sell. Kept wanting to take that screen printing class, but never had room for it.
-Greenie
[quote comment=”344328″]Ain’t the Kingdome. We went through this a few months back, but I’m having a hard time remembering the location. Preseason game for sure — Spokane, maybe?[/quote]
Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
AGAIN???
:-)
Someone here said it was Soldier Field during the first go-round.
Highlight of my visit to Comiskey (other than the win) was a vintage Bo Jackson jersey: except the “8” on the front was about double the size it should have been.
Another fun item was the group t-shirt in the “SEX” typeface saying “Sox Bus Trip”. :-) I don’t think I would have paid much attention unless someone here had commented on his “Sex” hat.
[quote comment=”344349″][quote comment=”344328″]Ain’t the Kingdome. We went through this a few months back, but I’m having a hard time remembering the location. Preseason game for sure — Spokane, maybe?[/quote]
Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
AGAIN???
:-)
Someone here said it was Soldier Field during the first go-round.[/quote]
Oh man, do we have to revisit my dumb and dumber moment. Yea, that was me who thought it was Soldier Field, the first go-round. Oi! Then I was like, yea it’s Husky Stadium…….No!?!? …..Right, of course it was in Spokane. :o/
[quote comment=”344346″][quote comment=”344345″]
thanks mike (and ricko)[/quote]
Fuckin’ ingrate.[/quote]
heh heh…lol
Also, left off the list of High School nickmanes is the Kingsford (MI) High School Flivvers.
[quote comment=”344351″] …..Right, of course it was in Spokane. :o/[/quote]
Yeah, we went round and round about that a while back. I remember that I jumped in when someone suggested the game was in Chicago.
Seems like we went thru about the entire range of stadium possibilities for a Bear/Seahawk game that day, including Dyche Stadium in Evanston. :-)
[quote comment=”344353″]Also, left off the list of High School nickmanes is the Kingsford (MI) High School Flivvers.[/quote]
Now THERE’S a team that should be either the Fire or the the Flames.
Do you think the girls squad is called the Tin Lizzies?
[quote comment=”344355″][quote comment=”344353″]Also, left off the list of High School nickmanes is the Kingsford (MI) High School Flivvers.[/quote]
Now THERE’S a team that should be either the Fire or the the Flames.
Do you think the girls squad is called the Tin Lizzies?[/quote]
I saw their football team in the early 90’s at the MHSAA Football Championship. They ran the single wing.
[quote comment=”344326″][quote comment=”344199″]That 1939 Eagles t-shirt is beautiful. Great logo.[/quote]
I like that shirt a lot[/quote]
No Mas, where are you? (Or would there be trademark issues with NFL Properties?)
[quote comment=”344353″]Also, left off the list of High School nickmanes is the Kingsford (MI) High School Flivvers.[/quote]
Plus the Monroe Cheesemakers link and Freeport Pretzels link though Mental Floss did mention another high school with a pretzel mascot.
[quote comment=”344358″]…with a pretzel mascot.[/quote]It should have been the Freeport Pretzels of Illinois, but he went with the New Berlin Pretzels.
BTW, does anyone think that the Idaho school in the hometown of the “state hospital” would get away with “Maniacs” if they started today?
[quote comment=”344300″]
I still think this numbers-in-the-teens for wideouts is unnecessary. No team is going to carry 10 WR or TE, you wouldn’t think. So no real reason not to keep them in the 80s…other than free agent signings finding “their” number might already be taken.[/quote]
That and the fact that there are 12 retired numbers in the 80s league-wide, with more who could be. Indianapolis and Minnesota have two each.
[quote comment=”344308″] Had I seen those odd QB numbers back in the day, I’d have objected too, and said, “hey, can we get some order here!”[/quote]
No you wouldn’t have. Because that would have BEEN the order of the day.
[quote comment=”344286″][quote comment=”344281″]The Tennessee Titans now have one of the worst uniforms in the NFL[/quote]
i agree, that of the six possible uni combos, link…however,
link…and highly underrated
the rest tho…awful[/quote]
As long as the helmet has those idiotic partial stripes, they all suck.
[quote comment=”344291″]guess I’m a traditionalist in that I totally dislike any QB wearing any number in the 20s. It just looks completely wrong, and I cringe that anyone would like that look. 20s belong on DBs or RBs.
:)
link
Big time.
[quote comment=”344317″][quote comment=”344314″]case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link.[/quote]
holy shit, mike…did they bury someone in the kingdome turf or is that just a really bad/weird photograph angle?[/quote]
no you have to have a crown in an indoor field so the rain can drain off. oh wait…
Although that looks like the Bears and Sweetness on the sideline.
[quote comment=”344356″][quote comment=”344355″][quote comment=”344353″]Also, left off the list of High School nickmanes is the Kingsford (MI) High School Flivvers.[/quote]
Now THERE’S a team that should be either the Fire or the the Flames.
Do you think the girls squad is called the Tin Lizzies?[/quote]
I saw their football team in the early 90’s at the MHSAA Football Championship. They ran the single wing.[/quote]
I’d love to see the single wing and the wishbone, as well as the spread and the wildcat. Heck, let’s bring back the dropkick! Too bad Flutie wasn’t wearing 22 when he made his dropkick. link
[quote comment=”344365″][quote comment=”344356″][quote comment=”344355″][quote comment=”344353″]Also, left off the list of High School nickmanes is the Kingsford (MI) High School Flivvers.[/quote]
Now THERE’S a team that should be either the Fire or the the Flames.
Do you think the girls squad is called the Tin Lizzies?[/quote]
I saw their football team in the early 90’s at the MHSAA Football Championship. They ran the single wing.[/quote]
I’d love to see the single wing and the wishbone, as well as the spread and the wildcat. Heck, let’s bring back the dropkick! Too bad Flutie wasn’t wearing 22 when he made his dropkick. link
Usually, once every couple of years a team from the UP makes it to the MHSAA Championship that runs the single wing. It is fun to watch but it SUCKS! to do stats for with all the fake handoffs.
This may be a stupid question, and it may have been discussed in the past, but when did the SF Giants add the gold drop shadow to their numbers and lettering?
I just now noticed it.
[quote comment=”344367″]This may be a stupid question, and it may have been discussed in the past, but when did the SF Giants add the gold drop shadow to their numbers and lettering?
I just now noticed it.[/quote]
2005. Dang.
I either missed it, or forgot it.
[quote comment=”344367″]This may be a stupid question, and it may have been discussed in the past, but when did the SF Giants add the gold drop shadow to their numbers and lettering?
I just now noticed it.[/quote]
Well, if they think it’s for their 50th year in San Francisco, someone in the organization needs remedial arithmetic.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344364″]Although that looks like the Bears and Sweetness on the sideline.[/quote]
Not too far from the immortal NFL HOFer Dick Butku….er, I mean someone else the Bears gave number “51” to because they were mad at Butkus for years and wouldn’t retire his number.
[quote comment=”344369″]
Well, if they think it’s for their 50th year in San Francisco, someone in the organization needs remedial arithmetic.[/quote]
Ricko, if they thought it would sell even one additional cap to some fan from Utah or Oregon they’d say it was in honor of 150, 37 or 86 years in SF. :-(
[quote comment=”344367″]when did the SF Giants add the gold drop shadow to their numbers and lettering?[/quote]
when they won the world series, no?
(ducks)
[quote comment=”344314″][quote comment=”344242″][quote comment=”344193″][quote comment=”344181″]Not used to seeing the Houston Oilers so predominately displayed.[/quote]
I’m not a Houston Oilers fan, but they did have sharp uniforms and the white helmets were the best look.[/quote]
I disagree. When I was a kid, I liked the Oilers simply because they looked like this link
They went 1-13 in that uniform, but I still liked them. Then they switched to white helmets (and coincidentally got better), but they were no longer my favorite team.[/quote]
I can totally relate, case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link. Good thing is, they had a couple of decent seasons finishing a respectable 9-7 in the tough AFC West, before they switched to the white shoes, stripeless socks, and logo on the sleeves.[/quote]
By the way, Mike, plan on doing any artwork of kickers? (pause for laughter from most football fans) I’d like to see Tom Dempsey, Fred Cox, and of course Pat Summerall. I like the soccer-style guys too, but that straight-on kicking is so old-school cool.
[quote comment=”344372″][quote comment=”344367″]when did the SF Giants add the gold drop shadow to their numbers and lettering?[/quote]
when they won the world series, no?
(ducks)[/quote]
That would explain why it’s old gold.
link
Logo overload on T.O.’s helmet?
sorry… pic #48 at the above link
[quote] I’d like to see Tom Dempsey, Fred Cox, and of course Pat Summerall. I like the soccer-style guys too, but that straight-on kicking is so old-school cool.[/quote]
somethin’ like this jim?
The Red Sox new pitcher Billy Traber wears his pants bunched up around the ankles, so a little bit of his socks show through.
[quote comment=”344372″][quote comment=”344367″]when did the SF Giants add the gold drop shadow to their numbers and lettering?[/quote]
when they won the world series, no?
(ducks)[/quote]
That was just a coupe years back. I take uni-pride we have 1 home set…1 road set….1 cap.
(BP top and cap don’t count- everyone has those.)
Speaking of Charlie Tolar (who, I didn’t know, died in late April at age 65)…
link
(Photo #10 in the set).
RIP, Human Bowling Ball.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”344306″]Other numbers I’d like to see:
Heinz Ward: 57
Sonny Sixkiller: 40
Jeff Saturday: 6
Bill Olds: 88[/quote]
Sonny Sixkiller. What a name. Bengals had a lot of skill positions players with lo numbers in the early 70’s; besides QBs- Eric Crabtree WR-10, Speedy Thomas WR-17..Paul Robinson RB-18..Essex Johnson RB-19..Ken Riley CB-13. In fact, in 71, #’s 10 thru 19 were all taken.
[quote comment=”344378″]The Red Sox new pitcher Billy Traber wears his pants bunched up around the ankles, so a little bit of his socks show through.[/quote]
Ah, yes, the “I’m from the Ozarks” look.
[quote comment=”344380″]Speaking of Charlie Tolar (who, I didn’t know, died in late April at age 65)…
link
(Photo #10 in the set).
RIP, Human Bowling Ball.
—Ricko[/quote]
thought norm bulaich was the human bowling ball
[quote comment=”344383″][quote comment=”344380″]Speaking of Charlie Tolar (who, I didn’t know, died in late April at age 65)…
link
(Photo #10 in the set).
RIP, Human Bowling Ball.
—Ricko[/quote]
thought norm bulaich was the human bowling ball[/quote]
Nope. Tolar was first, back in ’60.
The nickname was borrowed later.
And it was for a teammate of Bulaich’s, as I recall. Don Nottingham, maybe?
Just like real “Fearsome Foursome” was Chargers…Ernie Ladd, Earl Faison, Ron Nery and Sid? Hudson. Rams stole it.
—Ricko
Well, probably LA media stole it. Not gonna blame the Rams.
re: Chargers Fearsome Foursome…
link
[quote comment=”344373″][quote comment=”344314″][quote comment=”344242″][quote comment=”344193″][quote comment=”344181″]Not used to seeing the Houston Oilers so predominately displayed.[/quote]
I’m not a Houston Oilers fan, but they did have sharp uniforms and the white helmets were the best look.[/quote]
I disagree. When I was a kid, I liked the Oilers simply because they looked like this link
They went 1-13 in that uniform, but I still liked them. Then they switched to white helmets (and coincidentally got better), but they were no longer my favorite team.[/quote]
I can totally relate, case in point, my obsession with the late seventies Seahawks when they looked like link. Good thing is, they had a couple of decent seasons finishing a respectable 9-7 in the tough AFC West, before they switched to the white shoes, stripeless socks, and logo on the sleeves.[/quote]
By the way, Mike, plan on doing any artwork of kickers? (pause for laughter from most football fans) I’d like to see Tom Dempsey, Fred Cox, and of course Pat Summerall. I like the soccer-style guys too, but that straight-on kicking is so old-school cool.[/quote]
Damn good suggestion Jim. I think we need to get on that.
hey MIKE PRINCIP…
can you contact me at your convenience?
ricko is sending me something he’s sure you’ll want to see for your site
thanks
Mets radio guy Wayne Hagin has been piling up memorable misstatements all season, but he really outdid himself a few minutes ago. Speaking of Bobby Parnell, who’s coming out of the bullpen to start Saturday’s game, Hagin said: “They want him to throw 60 to 75 pitches — whichever comes first.”
I caused some uni-centric trouble this evening:
I was driving North up New York’s Palisades Parkway when, to my surprise, a Ford Mustang, complete with pinstripes and yankee logos on the doors and hood, merged.
I caught up, honked solely to show the driver that I was wearing my Carlton Fisk era BoSox cap.
Good timimg with tonight’s game.
BTW, the car looked VERY similar this:
link
[quote comment=”344377″][quote] I’d like to see Tom Dempsey, Fred Cox, and of course Pat Summerall. I like the soccer-style guys too, but that straight-on kicking is so old-school cool.[/quote]
somethin’ link jim?[/quote]
Oh yeah! Now we’re talkin’…
How can you forget Bobby Layne! QB and captain of the Lions during their glory years of the 50’s!!!
*side note*
He wore 22 lol.
[quote comment=”344392″]How can you forget Bobby Layne! QB and captain of the Lions during their glory years of the 50’s!!![/quote]
I did forget, and he also led the Steelers to their best years before the Super Bowl era
link
Thanks for the reminder!
[quote comment=”344392″]How can you forget Bobby Layne! QB and captain of the Lions during their glory years of the 50’s!!![/quote]
I didn’t forget. Linked one of his photos above.