In Which We Learn That Pudge Rodriguez Is a Bit of Weirdo

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Glad to see PSU made it at #6.

[quote comment=”341228″]Here is the picture of Pozatto’s new uniform.

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Pozatto rides for a Russian team and his Italian Champion’s jersey (shown in the ticker) featured a silhouette of Red Square. Maybe that’s why they didn’t like it so much.

Check that on #6, it was 14-13, A’s.

I agree ASU had a good look going. Why mess it up?

Regarding the Nike 7 on 7 tournament:

This spring, Nike was pushing gear designed solely for 7 on 7.

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Also check out the number treatments on some of these jerseys:
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Very similar to Florida”s hoops and Boise football unis, no?

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[quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same

[quote comment=”341238″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]

To be trendy, hip and modern, of course.[/quote]

As an alumnus I do not approve. The collar, the weird seam patterns, the piping that makes it look like a vest with sleeved tacked on.. And what is the deal with the seam just below the numbers?

[quote comment=”341242″][quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

CFCS
(Change for Change’s Sake)[/quote]
Fair enough. You’re right. But the last time they switched up was 1997. In this day and age, that is EONS.
And besides, I’m trying to play Devil’s Advocate. Pun TOTALLY intended!! Get it…? ASU…Sun DEVILS…”Devil’s Advocate”….?? Hello? Anyone? Anyone….?

Can we have these unis back, please?
And lose the maroon pants, too. Especially because sans stripes, they look like something “all the girls in Tempe are wearing to aerobics class these days”.

—Ricko

This Pudge story reminds me of a period of time when Benito Santiago, annoyed by the fact that his catcher’s gear obstructed his uni number of “9,” changed his number to “09” so that the chest protector strap went between the numbers.

[quote]the pitchers get to choose. Also bullshit[/quote]

ricko’s rule #25?

[quote comment=”341242″][quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

CFCS
(Change for Change’s Sake)[/quote]

I REALLY liked ASU’s classic look, and it’s a shame they had to go away from it. But as far as makeovers go, it could have been worse. I actually like the collar striping, and if it was applied to the sleeve ends (omitting the piping of course) as well, this look really wouldn’t be THAT bad. I’m with Cooper’s Dad, though – I really hope the helmet stays the same.

In reference to the Yankees’ lawyers’ cease-and-desist requests…wouldn’t that sort of thing be protected by Fair Use? I thought the Fair Use section of US Copyright Law protected satire and parody. This sort of sounds like both.

[quote comment=”341251″][quote comment=”341242″][quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

CFCS
(Change for Change’s Sake)[/quote]

I REALLY liked ASU’s classic look, and it’s a shame they had to go away from it. But as far as makeovers go, it could have been worse. I actually like the collar striping, and if it was applied to the sleeve ends (omitting the piping of course) as well, this look really wouldn’t be THAT bad. I’m with Cooper’s Dad, though – I really hope the helmet stays the same.[/quote]
Ah-ha! Bernard..!! Coming thru in the clutch!

[quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

It could have been worse (man, that’s some damning praise):

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[quote comment=”341243″][quote comment=”341242″][quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

CFCS
(Change for Change’s Sake)[/quote]
Fair enough. You’re right. But the last time they switched up was 1997. In this day and age, that is EONS.
And besides, I’m trying to play Devil’s Advocate. Pun TOTALLY intended!! Get it…? ASU…Sun DEVILS…”Devil’s Advocate”….?? Hello? Anyone? Anyone….?[/quote]

I think the adidas disasters were more recent, like early 2000s:

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[quote comment=”341259″][quote comment=”341243″][quote comment=”341242″][quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

CFCS
(Change for Change’s Sake)[/quote]
Fair enough. You’re right. But the last time they switched up was 1997. In this day and age, that is EONS.
And besides, I’m trying to play Devil’s Advocate. Pun TOTALLY intended!! Get it…? ASU…Sun DEVILS…”Devil’s Advocate”….?? Hello? Anyone? Anyone….?[/quote]

I think the adidas disasters were more recent, like early 2000s:

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“One more bumper sticker and my car will be perfect.”

[quote comment=”341254″][quote comment=”341227″][quote comment=”341225″]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/galleries/sports_alltime_greatest_uniforms/sports_alltime_greatest_uniforms.html[/quote]

Glad to see PSU made it at #6.[/quote]

That UCLA pic is from the Cade McNown era; they don’t wear those numbers anymore. News travels slow from the left coast to NYC, I guess.

Would THIS still make the list? Probably.

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jonathon,

in defense of the title of the article (tho i disagree with a number of the choices, and as UWers, these articles are kind of a joke), it was called Sports All-Time Greatest Uniforms, so the cade mcnown era does apply (plus they threw in the garbage from the magic and had an old ‘diques, plus ‘stros tequila sunrise)…

of course, when you lazily (tho i agree they are great) throw in yankees, penn state & alabama, you could show a pic from 30 years ago or today

cowboys “all time greatest”? sorry…that uni fails on so many levels

I think Paul may hate the Mets more that he hates Nike or the color Purple.

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Wasn’t Mrs. Landingcap the President’s secretary on THE WEST WING?

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of course, when you lazily (tho i agree they are great) throw in yankees, penn state & alabama, you could show a pic from 30 years ago or today

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I like the idea that a lot of the uni’s on that list could have pictures from either today or the 1950’s, and 99.99% of the people couldn’t tell the difference. Yanks, Tigers, Leafs, Canadians, some of the college football teams: good stuff.

JMHO, but when you find a classic you should hold on to it.

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of course, when you lazily (tho i agree they are great) throw in yankees, penn state & alabama, you could show a pic from 30 years ago or today

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I like the idea that a lot of the uni’s on that list could have pictures from either today or the 1950’s, and 99.99% of the people couldn’t tell the difference. Yanks, Tigers, Leafs, Canadians, some of the college football teams: good stuff.

JMHO, but when you find a classic you should hold on to it.[/quote]

Precisely why powder blue tuxedos with huge ruffled shirts are virtually extinct.
Except maybe on MY NAME IS EARL.

How long do you think it will be before Nike trys to sue the Boy Scouts? This is from Northern Tier, the Boy Scout High Adventure Camp in Minnesota and Canada.

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Wow, after seeing the NY Daily News “coolest” uniforms – and seeing how hockey uniforms dominate the top 10, (keeping in mind New York is not exactly a hockey mecca) – is another indication, the best looking uniforms in team sports are in hockey.

I was surprised to see the Quebec Nordiques on the list – that uniform I always thought was pretty forgettable.

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Precisely why powder blue tuxedos with huge ruffled shirts are virtually extinct.
Except maybe on MY NAME IS EARL.[/quote]
Anybody else remember the era when weddings not only had the ruffled shirts, but also a rainbow of shirt colors designed to coordinate with the color of the women’s dresses? :-))

That should be somewhere on one of those “awful pictures” websites.

With low stirrups and tight (non-blousing) pants, this is about as good as you can get.
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[quote comment=”341279″]With low stirrups and tight (non-blousing) pants, this is about as good as you can get.
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Although, looks like stirrups just might be on backwards.
Damn.

[quote comment=”341263″][quote comment=”341254″][quote comment=”341227″][quote comment=”341225″]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/galleries/sports_alltime_greatest_uniforms/sports_alltime_greatest_uniforms.html[/quote]

Glad to see PSU made it at #6.[/quote]

That UCLA pic is from the Cade McNown era; they don’t wear those numbers anymore. News travels slow from the left coast to NYC, I guess.

Would THIS still make the list? Probably.

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jonathon,

in defense of the title of the article (tho i disagree with a number of the choices, and as UWers, these articles are kind of a joke), it was called Sports All-Time Greatest Uniforms, so the cade mcnown era does apply (plus they threw in the garbage from the magic and had an old ‘diques, plus ‘stros tequila sunrise)…

of course, when you lazily (tho i agree they are great) throw in yankees, penn state & alabama, you could show a pic from 30 years ago or today

cowboys “all time greatest”? sorry…that uni fails on so many levels[/quote]

that’s true. good call phil. how were those late 90s ucla unis really better than the ones they wear now, or the troy aikman threads, which were truly their best look?

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The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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[quote comment=”341282″][quote comment=”341264″][quote comment=\”341263\”]
cowboys \”all time greatest\”? sorry…that uni fails on so many levels[/quote]

PSHAW! Thou dost offend me good sir.[/quote]

i disliked their unis link

i hated them even more afterwards

/just MHO…[/quote]

Oh I get where you are coming from Sir Hecken, I just disagree, on principle.

I don’t see what the big deal is with the Arizona St unis. I mean, the piping is new, but at the same time, its different but in a good way. If it just rings the sleeve and doesn’t do any weird shit on the back or anything like that, I’ll actually really like it. Its an interesting concept that could be pretty cool. However, if Nike went all Miami Hurricanes on them and added a pointless horizontal stripe to the end of the ring, it gets a giant STUPID for a rating.

As it was said before, it could be worse. Just look at the VT jerseys (sans the throwback, of course) and you can see how bad it could be. In Nike terms, this was a conservative approach to a jersey redesign.

[quote comment=”341285″]The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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1. The new logo looks a whole lot like the hood of a Firebird, which, for a town named Pontiac, is completely awesome.

2. What a wasted opportunity to honor the legacy of both schools by adopting one color from each, red and black (one of my favorite looks when executed properly).

[quote comment=”341291″][quote comment=”341285″]The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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1. The new logo looks a whole lot like the hood of a Firebird, which, for a town named Pontiac, is completely awesome.

2. What a wasted opportunity to honor the legacy of both schools by adopting one color from each, red and black (one of my favorite looks when executed properly).[/quote]

Let’s hope there’s a team in Arizona called the Phoenix High Pontiacs.

It would there was some kind of balance in the world.

[quote comment=”341285″]The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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A phoenix, eh? I don’t think that is too fitting for the Pontiac area. They have done the part of destroying the city, but I doubt they are going to rise from the ashes any time soon.

When will the Mets sport these badboys as a throwback?

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[quote comment=”341297″]When will the Mets sport these badboys as a throwback?

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[quote comment=”341293″][quote comment=”341291″][quote comment=”341285″]The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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1. The new logo looks a whole lot like the hood of a Firebird, which, for a town named Pontiac, is completely awesome.

2. What a wasted opportunity to honor the legacy of both schools by adopting one color from each, red and black (one of my favorite looks when executed properly).[/quote]

Let’s hope there’s a team in Arizona called the Phoenix High Pontiacs.

It would there was some kind of balance in the world.[/quote]

Alas.. there is not. There not even a Phoenix High any longer.

[quote comment=”341301″]Alas.. there is not. There not even a Phoenix High any longer.[/quote]
Well there’s always hope that it will rise.

[quote comment=”341302″]How can you have a list of Sports’ All-Time Coolest Uniforms and limit it to the four big pro sports in the U.S. and almost nothing vintage?

(OK, vintage isn’t the word I’m looking for. Maybe “not currently in use.”)[/quote]
Squiddie, any nominations?

If I went with a list of “unfortunate new uniforms” at the top would be the Phoenix Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings and Atlanta Falcons. IMHO, the Cards might be a candidate for the SI list if they had their old unis.

Maybe the Vikes too.

[quote comment=”341298″][quote comment=”341285″]…Pontiac Central Chiers…
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Is that a misspelling: and if not, is there a story behind “Chiers”?[/quote]

I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.

[quote comment=”341307″][quote comment=”341298″][quote comment=”341285″]…Pontiac Central Chiers…
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Is that a misspelling: and if not, is there a story behind “Chiers”?[/quote]

I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.[/quote]

That’s great, but who are the Chefs?

[quote comment=”341310″][quote comment=”341258″][quote comment=”341256″]I’m exactly opposite Pudge.

I’m wearing #77 this season for softball because a more veteran guy on the team wanted #25. I was always #25, and I lost it this year out of respect to another solid player.

But I never changed my number mid-game. LOL[/quote]
66 wasn’t available?[/quote]

I used to wear that number, but I hated the Juan Guzman reference when I was pitching.[/quote]

Coulda said, “Nah, it means 6-for-6.”

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I was surprised to see the Quebec Nordiques on the list – that uniform I always thought was pretty forgettable.[/quote]

They are the ONLY hockey team that looked amazingly great in light blue.

The Thrashers can kiss my posterior in using that colour.

[quote comment=”341307″]I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.[/quote]I definitely considered that as a strong possibility, not only because of the proximity on the keyboard but Pontiac and Indian imagery go together.

Just wanted to hear one way or another. Thanks.

[quote comment=”341311″][quote comment=”341310″][quote comment=”341258″][quote comment=”341256″]I’m exactly opposite Pudge.

I’m wearing #77 this season for softball because a more veteran guy on the team wanted #25. I was always #25, and I lost it this year out of respect to another solid player.

But I never changed my number mid-game. LOL[/quote]
66 wasn’t available?[/quote]

I used to wear that number, but I hated the Juan Guzman reference when I was pitching.[/quote]

Coulda said, “Nah, it means 6-for-6.”[/quote]

I’ll stick with 7-fer-7. LOL

[quote comment=”341312″]“Uh, whatever you say, Pudgester.”

Never thought I’d see the day when UniWatch would be giving a player a hard time for putting some thought into his own uniform number.[/quote]

Haha, I know!

Maybe CFCS could mean “Complaining for complaining’s sake”?

[quote comment=”341309″][quote comment=”341307″][quote comment=”341298″][quote comment=”341285″]…Pontiac Central Chiers…
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Is that a misspelling: and if not, is there a story behind “Chiers”?[/quote]

I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.[/quote]

That’s great, but who are the Chefs?[/quote]

Great googly moogly. Haha
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I was surprised to see the Quebec Nordiques on the list – that uniform I always thought was pretty forgettable.[/quote]

They are the ONLY hockey team that looked amazingly great in light blue.

The Thrashers can kiss my posterior in using that colour.[/quote]
Thrashers wouldn’t be so bad if not for just about everything they do other than the light blue color. Stripe on one sleeve only? Ugly as Joan Rivers logos? A color combination that includes navy blue, orange, yellow, and maroon? Ugh…

If they were to simplify it, ditch the shoulder stripe, add a wordmark to the chest (instead of the logo) that was maroon on navy blue with the yellow/orange as a piping that outlines the maroon. Keep the stripe they have on the hemline, those are nice. Make a cuff stripe of navy blue and you’ll have a pretty good jersey. Certainly better than the crap they have now.

Did you see that David Beckham got into a yelling match with some L.A. Riot Squad members? At one point they even threw a Galaxy jersey at him.

You know things are pretty bad when fans are throwing away perfectly good jerseys. (Insert Herbalife sponsorship jokes here.)

Maybe they’re upset that he’s wearing short sleeves.

[quote comment=”341322″][quote comment=”341316″][quote comment=”341309″][quote comment=”341307″][quote comment=”341298″][quote comment=”341285″]…Pontiac Central Chiers…
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Is that a misspelling: and if not, is there a story behind “Chiers”?[/quote]

I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.[/quote]

That’s great, but who are the Chefs?[/quote]

Happy Chef used to sponsor a pretty good softball team.[/quote]

wasn’t that a link?[/quote]

Give that man a Snickers!

although i do not mind the new Arizona St unis
the set they have been wearing was so classic and clean. i really do not like all of the piping that has been going on either stripes on sleeves, “northwestern stripes” or just numbers-but have an original identity. these new unis are looking the same and like crap. i am glad ohio state, oklahoma, penn state, ‘bama and others have not let nike try to do the “piping thing” to them. and notre dame going back to a more plain jersey was great too.
-Stoops

[quote comment=”341322″][quote comment=”341316″][quote comment=”341309″][quote comment=”341307″][quote comment=”341298″][quote comment=”341285″]…Pontiac Central Chiers…
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Is that a misspelling: and if not, is there a story behind “Chiers”?[/quote]

I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.[/quote]

That’s great, but who are the Chefs?[/quote]

Happy Chef used to sponsor a pretty good softball team.[/quote]

wasn’t that a link?[/quote]

Huh? Who own da Chiefs?

“2. Wasn’t Gretzky the first hockey player to have a ginormous number and wasn’t 99 an homage to Hull and Howe? (Be gentle here, I didn’t grow up in hockey culture).”

Didn’t number change coincide with a big new contract that ran through ’99? Thought that’s what I heard at the time.

Teebz?

Oakland 14, Minnesota 13 ?
I though Favre was supposed to generate some offense for those guys.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”341334″]That Teebz. He’s quick.[/quote]

Ricko, keep Hockey Day In Minnesota (Feb. 23, 2010) open. I might make the trek down that day. I was thinking it would be awesome to spend a few days watching pond hockey and a Gophers game.

[quote comment=”341336″][quote comment=”341313″][quote comment=”341275″]
I was surprised to see the Quebec Nordiques on the list – that uniform I always thought was pretty forgettable.[/quote]

They are the ONLY hockey team that looked amazingly great in light blue.

The Thrashers can kiss my posterior in using that colour.[/quote]

I would pick the Penguins current retro uni, as the best light blue uni, although I’m not as in love with it, as some are.

The Nordiques uniform had several big strikes against it, in my books:

1. Far too nationalistic
2. A logo that looks like it was designed by someone with no natural artistic ability
3. A strange use of the colour red, major splash in the logo, and then hardly non-existent.

I agree with the Thrashers rebuke, for many of the reasons Beardface points out – it a total mess, with an incredibly annoying one arm striping pattern.[/quote]

Nordiques were more Air Force Blue than Powder Blue, right?
Well, okay the very first ones were powder, I guess. With red breezers. Not a good look. Got much better with all Air Force Blue. Logo, good or bad, is distinctly ’70s, that’s for sure.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”341338″][quote comment=”341335″][quote comment=”341334″]That Teebz. He’s quick.[/quote]

Ricko, keep Hockey Day In Minnesota (Feb. 23, 2010) open. I might make the trek down that day. I was thinking it would be awesome to spend a few days watching pond hockey and a Gophers game.[/quote]

Deal. I keep better in the winter, too.[/quote]

I found all those WHA newspapers, btw.

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Huh? Who own da Chiefs?[/quote]
Well, I think it’s the son of Lamar Hunt. I don’t think his first name is Mike though.

No. There were several players who wore #99 before Gretzky did in the NHL. He chose #99 as a player on the Soo Greyhounds already wore #9 – the number of Gordie Howe, Gretzky’s hero.

thank you, that didn’t hurt a bit.

On another topic:
I always thought the UCLA helmet logo made no sense. Shouldn’t it read U C L A, not Ucla like it’s the word “Ucla”. Is there more here than meets my eye? (Have also never been a fan of script helmet markings: “Terrapins” and 90’s “Beavers” come to mind).

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The Nordiques uniform had several big strikes against it, in my books:

1. Far too nationalistic…[/quote]

Which WHA team had the maple leaf in the middle of the oval letter: Ottawa or Quebec?

I personally liked that logo. It comes from the era of the Chicago Cougars “stepping on his own tail” logo.

[quote comment=”341339″][quote comment=”341338″][quote comment=”341335″][quote comment=”341334″]That Teebz. He’s quick.[/quote]

Ricko, keep Hockey Day In Minnesota (Feb. 23, 2010) open. I might make the trek down that day. I was thinking it would be awesome to spend a few days watching pond hockey and a Gophers game.[/quote]

Deal. I keep better in the winter, too.[/quote]

I found all those WHA newspapers, btw.[/quote]

For those interested, I’m talking about THE HOCKEY SPECTATOR, an WHA-oriented weekly tabloid initiated with beginning of WHA (kinda of an “oh, yeah” THE HOCKEY NEWS, which largely ignored the WHA). Existed for first season-and-a-half. I was part owner and editor and have, to my knowledge anyway, the only complete set of every issue. Partners/Teams sold virtually no ads, so I had room to run lots of photos, big. Black & white, sadly, but I guarantee many of them have never been seen anywhere else.

Includes all the box scores from every game during the time we published, too. Added coverage of NHL in ”73-’74 until the pub folded, so some pretty nice NHL photos in those issues, too.

Every once in a while an issue shows up on ebay, but couldn’t find one today.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”341291″][quote comment=”341285″]The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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1. The new logo looks a whole lot like the hood of a Firebird, which, for a town named Pontiac, is completely awesome.

2. What a wasted opportunity to honor the legacy of both schools by adopting one color from each, red and black (one of my favorite looks when executed properly).[/quote]

yep:

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[quote comment=”341340″][quote comment=”341279″]With low stirrups and tight (non-blousing) pants, this is about as good as you can get.
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Love it.[/quote]

This got me to thinking. Has Columbia blue ever been used in the big leagues? If not, it’s a worthy consideration. Ditto for maroon-and-gold. Any other combos that haven’t been used, but should?

BTW Ricko, my compliments on Benchies.

I tried to catch you Sunday but I don’t know if you saw my post.

[quote comment=”341348″]

link. Nationals are there.[/quote]
There it is, thanks.

Not too anything for me. Subtle, a play on the theme of “Nationals”-no problem at all IMHO.

[quote comment=”341355″]Not too anything for me. Subtle, a play on the theme of “Nationals”-no problem at all IMHO.[/quote]
And I should have added “if any logo could be called nationalistic, it would be that one” to go back to the original point.

But since IMHO that one isn’t too nationalistic, none of them are.

UCLA band spells out “Ucla” in script on the field, similar to the Ohio State routine, and was doing it for years before that “look” was added to the side of the plain gold Bruin helmets.

Didn’t just come from nowhere, that’s my point.

It doesn’t make sense to me that it would be represented that way by the band, either. Just sayin…
:)

Oh, and doesn’t the Ohio State band just spell out “Ohio”? Never got that one either. After all, there is an Ohio University. Ferris…, anyone?

[quote comment=”341351″][quote comment=”341340″][quote comment=”341279″]With low stirrups and tight (non-blousing) pants, this is about as good as you can get.
link

Love it.[/quote]

This got me to thinking. Has Columbia blue ever been used in the big leagues? If not, it’s a worthy consideration. Ditto for maroon-and-gold. Any other combos that haven’t been used, but should?[/quote]

Do you mean athletic gold or metallic? Maroon and metallic gold was used by the Redskins from 1937-1969. They sport athletic gold today.

As for Columbia blue, the Chargers use it in their throwbacks and fauxbacks (if not necessarily back in the day). The Houston/Tennessee Oilers wore it for almost fofty years.

I believe that “ON” logo actually was designed while they were still planning to play in Hamilton as the Ontario Nationals. But lack of a venue forced them to move to Ottawa…where the graphic could remain.

[quote comment=”341361″][quote comment=”341351″][quote comment=”341340″][quote comment=”341279″]With low stirrups and tight (non-blousing) pants, this is about as good as you can get.
link

Love it.[/quote]

This got me to thinking. Has Columbia blue ever been used in the big leagues? If not, it’s a worthy consideration. Ditto for maroon-and-gold. Any other combos that haven’t been used, but should?[/quote]

Do you mean athletic gold or metallic? Maroon and metallic gold was used by the Redskins from 1937-1969. They sport athletic gold today.

As for Columbia blue, the Chargers use it in their throwbacks and fauxbacks (if not necessarily back in the day). The Houston/Tennessee Oilers wore it for almost fofty years.[/quote]

Ah, of course. You ment the real Big Leagues.

The only one I can think of off the top of my head is the link.

[quote comment=”341365″][quote comment=”341361″][quote comment=”341351″][quote comment=”341340″][quote comment=”341279″]With low stirrups and tight (non-blousing) pants, this is about as good as you can get.
link

Love it.[/quote]

This got me to thinking. Has Columbia blue ever been used in the big leagues? If not, it’s a worthy consideration. Ditto for maroon-and-gold. Any other combos that haven’t been used, but should?[/quote]

Do you mean athletic gold or metallic? Maroon and metallic gold was used by the Redskins from 1937-1969. They sport athletic gold today.

As for Columbia blue, the Chargers use it in their throwbacks and fauxbacks (if not necessarily back in the day). The Houston/Tennessee Oilers wore it for almost fofty years.[/quote]

Ah, of course. You ment the real Big Leagues.

The only one I can think of off the top of my head is the link.[/quote]

That was somewhere between Air Force and Royal. I was thinking of the 20s. Remember in Okkonen some light blue stirrups with white stripes. Think was Dodgers.

[quote comment=”341353″]BTW Ricko, my compliments on Benchies.

I tried to catch you Sunday but I don’t know if you saw my post.[/quote]

Thank you. Did see your post.

—Rcko

[quote comment=”341305″][quote comment=”341302″]How can you have a list of Sports’ All-Time Coolest Uniforms and limit it to the four big pro sports in the U.S. and almost nothing vintage?

(OK, vintage isn’t the word I’m looking for. Maybe “not currently in use.”)[/quote]
Squiddie, any nominations?

If I went with a list of “unfortunate new uniforms” at the top would be the Phoenix Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings and Atlanta Falcons. IMHO, the Cards might be a candidate for the SI list if they had their old unis.

Maybe the Vikes too.[/quote]

The St. Louis Football Cardinals and the Metropolitan Stadium-era Vikings do indeed deserve a place on the SI list. So do the classic Rams and the USFL Michigan Panthers. Just to throw in another sport, how about the Seattle Sounders? And don’t even get me started on indoor soccer…

[quote comment=”341372″][quote comment=”341370″]Okay, wasn’t socks. Was big “B” and bill of cap.
link

—Ricko[/quote]

Let’s try that link again (if doesn’t work, it’s 1931 Dodgers at DTTN)…
link

–Ricko[/quote]
Are we not counting link in the Columbia blue discussion?

[quote comment=”341373″][quote comment=”341372″][quote comment=”341370″]Okay, wasn’t socks. Was big “B” and bill of cap.
link

—Ricko[/quote]

Let’s try that link again (if doesn’t work, it’s 1931 Dodgers at DTTN)…
link

–Ricko[/quote]
Are we not counting link in the Columbia blue discussion?[/quote]

Don’t think he meant a trim color, but yeah if we count the Blue Jays we’d have to count that.

[quote comment=”341376″]As already pointed out by Jim at 10:56 and by Leon at 12:39, there is nothing weird about a player taking a number that is similar to his preferred number if the preferred number is unavailable, as we see here on the part of Ivan Rodriguez. (Please, kiddies: “Pudge” is Carlton Fisk.)

Others:

* Keith Hernandez: no. 37 with Cards; took no. 17 with Mets because no. 37 is retired for Stengel.

* Lou Piniella: no. 14 with Yanks; took no. 41 with Reds because no. 14 remains unused since Pete Rose.

* Shaq: no. 32 with Orlando; took no. 34 with Lakers because nos. 32 and 33 are retired for Magic and Kareem; returned to no. 32 with Miami and Phoenix; took no. 33 with Cleveland because no. 32 taken by Joe Smith.

Then there are the players who switched to a different number in order to pay some homage:

* Reggie Jackson: no. 9 with A’s and O’s, but found no. 9 worn by Nettles with Yanks. Reggie adopted no. 44, in honour of Henry Aaron. Reggie became more known for his new number than his old, and even wore it upon his return to the A’s. However the A’s retired Reggie’s original number, the no. 9.

* Rickey Henderson: no. 35 with A’s; took no. 24 with Yanks in honour of Mays because Phil Niekro had no. 35. Like Reggie, Rickey went on to become more identified with his new number, which he wore everywhere it was available, even with the Mets and even on subsequent trips back to Oakland. (Unlike the Reggie situation, the A’s will retire no. 24, not no. 35, for Rickey this season.)

* Ron Darling: best known for no. 12 with the Mets, but also wore nos. 44 and 15. Upon joining A’s he took no. 17 in homage to Keith Hernandez.

* David Cone: no. 44 with the Mets; changed to no. 17 in Hernandez’s honour after Hernandez left the Mets, and kept this number for one year in Kansas City.[/quote]

As pointed out, none of them did it mid-inning/quarter.

[quote comment=”341342″][quote comment=”341336″]
1. Far too nationalistic[/quote]

Nationalistic? The name means “Northman”, and was an homage to the native peoples in the Ungava region of Quebec before representing all the northern peoples of Quebec. It’s a highly regional logo, and has little to do with anything else in Canada.
[quote comment=”341336″]2. A logo that looks like it was designed by someone with no natural artistic ability[/quote]
The logo, according to the media guides, is an igloo with a hockey stick in the front as the entrance/exit to the igloo – again, referring to the native peoples in the Ungava region. It was designed to look like Inuit or native peoples’ drawings. It’s supposed to look simplistic. That’s the beauty of it.
[quote comment=”341336″]3. A strange use of the colour red, major splash in the logo, and then hardly non-existent.[/quote]
The red colour was introduced during their WHA days. The blue and white is clearly referencing the blue-and-white flag of the province of Quebec. It’s also where they get the fleur-de-lis from. However, the logo and jerseys have changed a number of times. The link has them all, and red gets moved and changed on the jerseys often. However, it clearly stands out, and makes the logo that much more noticeable – entirely what you’d like any logo to be. Ask Nike how well that works. ;o)[/quote]

In terms of point 1, Nationalism in this context meaans Quebec nationalism, i.e. separating from Canada.) The Fleur de lys, which is on the provincial flag, is a symbol of that desire. I would have no problem with it appearing on a uniform, provided there was balance, in much the manner the Flames currently do (although in that case, both can go). Clearly the proliferation of the fleur-de-lys , with no sign of anything Canadian was making a political statement in a sports uniform. Which the owners have the right to do, but I was glad to see it go. The Quebec provincial flag is the same blue and white of the Nordiques uni, and I think the dropping of the red, was deliberate, to again distinguish itself as the team that represented a proud and separate Quebec.

As to the comment of Inuit art being simplistic, I think you should stick to commenting on hockey.

And Pudge Rodriguez honored Carlton Fisk by accepting his sobriquet. BTW, Fisk reversed his number when he went to the White Sox. And I’m no Kiddie!

:)

[quote comment=”341380″][quote comment=”341276″][quote comment=”341253″]In reference to the Yankees’ lawyers’ cease-and-desist requests…wouldn’t that sort of thing be protected by Fair Use? I thought the Fair Use section of US Copyright Law protected satire and parody. This sort of sounds like both.[/quote]
I’m not a lawyer, but I believe his protected right to parody ends at selling the shirts.[/quote]
If it’s legal to sell these:
link

I don’t see how the Yankees could have a case…[/quote]
You’re presuming that it is legal to sell those.

[quote comment=”341343″]No. There were several players who wore #99 before Gretzky did in the NHL. He chose #99 as a player on the Soo Greyhounds already wore #9 – the number of Gordie Howe, Gretzky’s hero.

thank you, that didn’t hurt a bit.

On another topic:
I always thought the UCLA helmet logo made no sense. Shouldn’t it read U C L A, not Ucla like it’s the word “Ucla”. Is there more here than meets my eye? (Have also never been a fan of script helmet markings: “Terrapins” and 90’s “Beavers” come to mind).[/quote]

I think the “Terps” script on the Maryland helmet is great. The problem is that the jersey has too many sharp angles of colors and stripes, so it clashes with the script on the helmet. The Nike jersey that preceded the Under Armour uni was much better.

Nike –
link

Under Armour –
link

And the white helmet is much better than the black one they had before it:
link

Lance armstrong just twittered that there woul dbe a new American team sponsor announced on Thursday for Team Astana. Could it be Nike…?

For whoever is interested i’ve scanned in a bunch of historical cricket photos and drawings dating back to the 1800’s here:

link

[quote comment=”341300″][quote comment=”341297″]When will the Mets sport these badboys as a throwback?

link

ack…never i hope
[/quote]
Correct answer. Henleys suck. Either full-length buttons (or zippers) or pullovers. BP tops are henleys nowadays. I hate that look. End.

[quote comment=”341392″]been off line for over a week. came back and uniwatch looks terrible. both at home and work. something happen? no banner at the top etc. site looks like it has been hacked (at least on my computers). what’s the word on this?[/quote]

Adblock Plus. Turn it off, and you’re fine.

re: yesterdays ‘rup banter
cubs 1 will be the 1927~1956 model. yes i know there were variations, but all blue with red stripes. i may make the bottom white, but doubtful.
cub 2 will be 1957, blue with white stripes, not opening day white bottom hose.

sox 1 and 2 are the 59 go go sox regular season and world series hose.

oh by the way, i may totally change my mind in the next two weeks and drop a 57 reds, 62 colt 45’s, and 69 padres hammer on your asses.

[quote comment=”341243″][quote comment=”341242″][quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

CFCS
(Change for Change’s Sake)[/quote]
Fair enough. You’re right. But the last time they switched up was 1997. In this day and age, that is EONS.
And besides, I’m trying to play Devil’s Advocate. Pun TOTALLY intended!! Get it…? ASU…Sun DEVILS…”Devil’s Advocate”….?? Hello? Anyone? Anyone….?[/quote]

Coop Daddy — Last time Penn State and the Yankees changed was . . . when? They both made the Daily News’ list, and for good reason.

ASU had really good uniforms; why change? Besides, I’m old enough to remember 1997. Isn’t that they year they almost won the national title in the Rose Bowl? — G.

Does anybody know if the Steelers plan on wearing their 1960’s throwbacks again this year and if so, in which games?

[quote comment=”341388″][quote comment=”341379″]
In terms of point 1, Nationalism in this context meaans Quebec nationalism, i.e. separating from Canada.) The Fleur de lys, which is on the provincial flag, is a symbol of that desire. I would have no problem with it appearing on a uniform, provided there was balance, in much the manner the Flames currently do (although in that case, both can go). Clearly the proliferation of the fleur-de-lys , with no sign of anything Canadian was making a political statement in a sports uniform.

Which the owners have the right to do, but I was glad to see it go. The Quebec provincial flag is the same blue and white of the Nordiques uni, and I think the dropping of the red, was deliberate, to again distinguish itself as the team that represented a proud and separate Quebec.[/quote]

Les Quebecois are a distinct culture unlike any in Canada. However, I fail to see how designing your uniforms after something like flag is a political statement instead of a point of pride – something all Quebecers are blessed in spades with.

Marcel Aubut and Paul Racine were the original owners, and despite your seemingly overwhelming hatred for all things Quebec. Aubut, in case you haven’t kept up with any hockey news, is the President of the Canadian Olympic Committee, because, y’know, you want a separatist in that role. He’s also an Officer of Canada (Canada’s highest civilian honour), an appointment he accepted in 1993 – again, something you give to a separatist.

Now if you want to split hairs over the fleur-de-lis, that must also mean that Louisiana is looking to leave the USA. It’s a symbol of french culture, not of separatists. Just because you associate it to separatists doesn’t mean that its true symbolism is dead.

In 1979-80, in their first year in the NHL, the Nordiques used a white logo surrounded by a red outline on their road jerseys. The following seasons, until they moved to Colorado, they always had a red logo. In 1991, they added more red as they outlined their numbers in red as well. So, therefore, they actuallyADDED more red to their jersey while in the NHL rather than having it removed. And for what it’s worth, the cleaner, less-cluttered jersey looks much sharper.

[quote comment=”341379″]As to the comment of Inuit art being simplistic, I think you should stick to commenting on hockey.[/quote]

I never said it was simplistic, so please don’t paraphrase what I wrote. I said it was reflective of Inuit art. I own several pieces of Inuit work, and they are gorgeous. But the Inuit carvings rarely have an immense amount of detail on them.

I then stated that “it’s supposed to look simplistic” in that regard. That’s why it is so good – it doesn’t do too much, but says so much. It stands on its own as a perfect representation of an iconic structure in the north.

If you interpreted that as a slight, my apologies. But when I have the Nordiques jerseys as one of my all-time favorite jerseys in all sports – and several readers here know this – you might want to take a step back.[/quote]

Your comments are utter rubbish. I have no idea how you jump to ” I hate Quebec” from my suggestion their uniform should have had some balance – to avoid being construed as being political.

View any Separatist rally – and what you would see are fleur-de-lys being waved on mass. What Marcel Aubut is, is irrelevant – and I said nothing anti – Quebec, and take offence to you saying that. The Fleur-de-lys and the Quebec flag were clearly the symbols of the national movement in Quebec, and the Owners were overtly catering to that audience in the design of the uniform, partly to help differentiate themselves from Montreal Canadiens – who were perceived to represent the establishment. There really is no doubt to the issue. And as I don’t think politics and sports mix, I was glad to see it go – that not anti-Quebec – I meant it strictly from an uni perspective.

btw, i just been teased, so in case you missed it yesterday…
i own a pair of crocks that i wear in the studio, and i don’t care who knows it. that’s right, i said it, i love crocks, they are flippin comfy:)

Unlike some on here, I like the script writing on football helmets. Would like to see a mock-up of the turtle shell idea though. I like Washington State with the script Cougars, link

The Ole Miss looks good too, I think. link

Florida is OK, not my favorite though: (I Prefer the big “F”) link

Who can honestly say they don’t prefer this to what Pitt currently has? link (or with their newer colors: link )

Cal is nice: link Without all the other stuff on it they added recently…

[quote comment=”341395″]re: yesterdays ‘rup banter
cubs 1 will be the 1927~1956 model. yes i know there were variations, but all blue with red stripes. i may make the bottom white, but doubtful.
cub 2 will be 1957, blue with white stripes, not opening day white bottom hose.

sox 1 and 2 are the 59 go go sox regular season and world series hose.

oh by the way, i may totally change my mind in the next two weeks and drop a 57 reds, 62 colt 45’s, and 69 padres hammer on your asses.[/quote]
Cubs 1 and 2? Sox 1 and 2?

Wait, what? You’re thinking about doing two of each?

P.S. fuck anyone who’s dissing the Crocs.

[quote comment=”341320″][quote comment=”341305″]
If I went with a list of “unfortunate new uniforms” at the top would be the Phoenix Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings and Atlanta Falcons. IMHO, the Cards might be a candidate for the SI list if they had their old unis.

Maybe the Vikes too.[/quote]

I’d include the Vikings, but if you grow up around people wearing purple, you get used to it.

Perhaps I’m stuck in the past, but have any new football uniforms been an improvement over the unis they replaced? I think some have been draws, but unless a team has gone back to an older design I can’t think of too many improvements.[/quote]

Still thinking…

[quote comment=”341397″][quote comment=”341243″][quote comment=”341242″][quote comment=”341239″][quote comment=”341236″]Noooooo…. WTH ASU? Why???[/quote]
Wait…hold the phone on that. I actually like the sleeve piping. It’s not over the top. It’s a subtle change. Let’s hold off judgment until we see the pants. And let’s hope the helmet stays the same[/quote]

CFCS
(Change for Change’s Sake)[/quote]
Fair enough. You’re right. But the last time they switched up was 1997. In this day and age, that is EONS.
And besides, I’m trying to play Devil’s Advocate. Pun TOTALLY intended!! Get it…? ASU…Sun DEVILS…”Devil’s Advocate”….?? Hello? Anyone? Anyone….?[/quote]

Coop Daddy — Last time Penn State and the Yankees changed was . . . when? They both made the Daily News’ list, and for good reason.

ASU had really good uniforms; why change? Besides, I’m old enough to remember 1997. Isn’t that they year they almost won the national title in the Rose Bowl? — G.[/quote]

’96, but technically the ’97 Rose Bowl

[quote comment=”341402″]Oh… and I just may need my Uni Watch membership revoked. I was at the NASA Night Astros game, did not notice Pudge’s new number or even the fact that they had on the NASA caps… Massive Fail on my part! I do offer that I was pretty high up, could not see much of anything, and was quite fixated on link. Please have mercy on me![/quote]

The picture of that play is probably about the right size from where you were sitting, Susan. It’s like I was there! LOL

Mark: I Completely understand the UCLA argument….I wonder what the historical reasoning was behind making it script (and lowercase). I may have to do a little research on it… :)

[quote comment=\”341412\”]
When the USA broke free from England, they rallied behind the 13 stars and stripes on their flag representing the 13 colonies. It stood for America in the same way that the flag of Quebec stands for Quebec. It’s a rallying point for those behind the cause, and it’s a symbol of that country/people’s push for independence.[/quote]

Whoa there boy. Ever body know there is 53 states not no 13. Why don’t yew stick that that there Canadia histry since thats where yew be frum.

[quote comment=”341405″]Unlike some on here, I like the script writing on football helmets. Would like to see a mock-up of the turtle shell idea though. I like Washington State with the script Cougars, link

The Ole Miss looks good too, I think. link

Florida is OK, not my favorite though: (I Prefer the big “F”) link

Who can honestly say they don’t prefer this to what Pitt currently has? link (or with their newer colors: link )

Cal is nice: link Without all the other stuff on it they added recently…[/quote]

I take the side of anyone who likes the script Pitt helmet!

Other scripts are good, too. I think the script Cougars looks better than this link

Just for fun, Johns Hopkins or some other school with a strong medical program should have script football helmets…with really bad handwriting.

Grumble. I meant to say, @Teebz, I am going home and rocking my #27 HEXTALL blue Nords chandail on my afternoon walk, just for you.

[quote comment=”341419″][quote comment=”341405″]Unlike some on here, I like the script writing on football helmets. Would like to see a mock-up of the turtle shell idea though. I like Washington State with the script Cougars, link

The Ole Miss looks good too, I think. link

Florida is OK, not my favorite though: (I Prefer the big “F”) link

Who can honestly say they don’t prefer this to what Pitt currently has? link (or with their newer colors: link )

Cal is nice: link Without all the other stuff on it they added recently…[/quote]

I take the side of anyone who likes the script Pitt helmet!

Other scripts are good, too. I think the script Cougars looks better than this link

Just for fun, Johns Hopkins or some other school with a strong medical program should have script football helmets…with really bad handwriting.[/quote]

(script Cougars look better than THIS, that is) link

Speaking of stirrups, the latest issue of Baseball America has a cover photo of Marlins prospect Mike Stanton rocking some gorgeous blue stirrups with white stripes. Can’t find it online; if someone has the mag and more tech capability than I, it’s worth scanning.

Re best unis no longer in use: 64-75 San Francisco 49ers (before they went to those bizarrely wide pants stripes); San Francisco Warriors (with “The City” on the front and the cable car on the back); 71 Astros (orange, pre-sansabelt); early 70s Atlanta Hawks (yes, the lime green/blue/white ones – guilty pleasure!!!); early 70s Baltimore Bullets (red/blue/white “J” stripes); 61-71 Minnesota Twins; 68-71 Washington Senators.

Re Nordiques and red: yeah, they used red throughout their history. The one that really gets me is the Dodgers, who are completely blue and white except for the front numbers, which are red. Why??? Why don’t they match the numbers on the back?

OK, I can’t get a WSU Cougar logo that shows up, but you know the one I mean…

[quote comment=”341402″]Oh… and I just may need my Uni Watch membership revoked. I was at the NASA Night Astros game, did not notice Pudge’s new number or even the fact that they had on the NASA caps… Massive Fail on my part! I do offer that I was pretty high up, could not see much of anything, and was quite fixated on link. Please have mercy on me![/quote]

And you can’t even blame it on Ausmus playing for the Astros any more…

For shame…

[quote comment=”341426″]There is no such thing as “Quebec City” in the province of Quebec. Everyone calls the city “Quebec”.[/quote]

Oh, and -1.

Make that -2.

[quote comment=”341410″][quote]P.S. fuck anyone who’s dissing the Crocs.[/quote]

how about mandals?[/quote]
That’s a rather broad category, sir. You gotta be more specific.

link
The UCLA Graphic Identity Program

This does not provide me why they use Ucla the way they do though…

[quote comment=”341436″]”I don’t know how you can make that statement when Montreal was a city-based team, and Quebec represented the population as a whole. They weren’t the Quebec City Nordiques. They were the Quebec Nordiques.”

Teebz –

So by using your same logic, the New York Mets and New Yankees represent the entire state of New York because they are not called the New York City Yankees/Mets?[/quote]

It’s funny how their following extends outside of the region known as New York City. You know, the same way that the Quebec Nordiques’ following did.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

[quote comment=”341407″][quote comment=”341395″]re: yesterdays ‘rup banter
cubs 1 will be the 1927~1956 model. yes i know there were variations, but all blue with red stripes. i may make the bottom white, but doubtful.
cub 2 will be 1957, blue with white stripes, not opening day white bottom hose.

sox 1 and 2 are the 59 go go sox regular season and world series hose.

oh by the way, i may totally change my mind in the next two weeks and drop a 57 reds, 62 colt 45’s, and 69 padres hammer on your asses.[/quote]
Cubs 1 and 2? Sox 1 and 2?

Wait, what? You’re thinking about doing two of each?

P.S. fuck anyone who’s dissing the Crocs.[/quote]

that’s right friend. we did 1-success. we are trying 2-successish. why not 4? am i mad? aha ahhahahha hahgahhahhha ahha ahahah

[quote comment=”341424″][quote comment=”341409″][quote comment=”341320″][quote comment=”341305″]
If I went with a list of “unfortunate new uniforms” at the top would be the Phoenix Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings and Atlanta Falcons. IMHO, the Cards might be a candidate for the SI list if they had their old unis.

Maybe the Vikes too.[/quote]

I’d include the Vikings, but if you grow up around people wearing purple, you get used to it.

Perhaps I’m stuck in the past, but have any new football uniforms been an improvement over the unis they replaced? I think some have been draws, but unless a team has gone back to an older design I can’t think of too many improvements.[/quote]

Still thinking…[/quote]
The Chargers almost managed to pull it off with their most recent update.

I think they took a step forward when link replaced link.

Unfortunately they took a step backwards when link replaced link.

And they took two giant leaps backwards when link replaced link.[/quote]

Agreed. It’s not like the Chargers were starting from scratch.

[quote comment=”341440″][quote comment=”341434″]Just a side note about the Cards/Astros game last night. The Cards TV guys (Young guy and the formerly Mad Hungarian) were talking about the birth of the Astrodome, and showed the footage of the construction. It was a great overhead shot of old Colt Stadium right beside the nearly finished Harris County Domed Stadium. Also great footage of Mantle swatting the first homer in the dome…[/quote]

If a paragraph includes the words “Colt Stadium” and “swatting,” how can it not also include “mosquitos”?[/quote]

I considered it!

[quote comment=”341433″][quote comment=”341410″][quote]P.S. fuck anyone who’s dissing the Crocs.[/quote]

how about mandals?[/quote]
That’s a rather broad category, sir. You gotta be more specific.[/quote]

in the general sense of the term, and for the purpose they serve, a simple yea or nay will suffice, my esteemed colleague

[quote comment=”341438″]
I think your opinion would if you were to survey hockey fans in Quebec, would be by far in the minority.[/quote]

I can’t believe I have to say this, but the Montreal Canadiens – the “establishment” as you called them – had a far larger fanbase than the Nordiques did at any time in the NHL’s history. That would mean more people want the establishment, and less people were aligned as separatists.

Yet they’ve held referendums to separate as recently as 1995.

How can this be??? This is a direct contradiction of the riling establishment and the aligned separatists! World are colliding.

Or simply that the Nordiques were not aligned politically whatsoever.

I’ll opt for the latter since it’s way easier to explain and comprehend.

[quote comment=”341438″]In a politically charged environment – common sense would dictate – that you should simply stay away from making any statement – to make sure you are viewed as neutral on a very sensitive issue. The Quebec Nordiques did not do that – they deliberately waved the flag – the Quebec flag – leaving it very open and reasonable to make the interpretation they were pro-Separatist. Keep in mind, Quebec City – where they played – is and always has been largely Separtist.[/quote]

I’m not a political activist, but it’s usually a good idea to have large numbers of people in large, capital cities for things like demonstrations and rallies. Which is what Quebec City is. Again, I’m no political activist, but you rarely see people in small towns that are hundreds of miles away from the government center making an impact on government with political messages.

Marching on your capital city? Worked for Julius Caesar. Where do people in the US go when they want to drive home a political message for change? Washington, DC.

[quote comment=”341438″]That the last I say on it.[/quote]
Let the insanity end.

Setting the record straight on ASU’s new unis.

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[quote comment=”341448″][quote comment=”341437″][quote comment=”341436″]”I don’t know how you can make that statement when Montreal was a city-based team, and Quebec represented the population as a whole. They weren’t the Quebec City Nordiques. They were the Quebec Nordiques.”

Teebz –

So by using your same logic, the New York Mets and New Yankees represent the entire state of New York because they are not called the New York City Yankees/Mets?[/quote]

It’s funny how their following extends outside of the region known as New York City. You know, the same way that the Quebec Nordiques’ following did.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.[/quote]

Huh? I think it’s the opposite. I’m sure if you polled people in Rochester NY, and asked them whether they feel an affinity to the NY Jets, because they’re called the New York Jets as opposed to the New York City Jets, they would tell you to jump in a lake. Rochester is generally a Buffalo Bills city.[/quote]

And I’m sure if you polled people in Rimouski, Quebec, they would say they are for the Montreal Canadiens.

It’s the way hockey works. Fanbases in hockey rarely change. You grow up cheering for a team, and you rarely deviate from that allegiance. As it so happened in the older days, nearly everyone in Quebec was a Canadiens fan until the Nords came along. Sure a few thousand jumped aboard the Nordiques’ bandwagon, but the large majority of people in Quebec are still Habs fans to this day.

Ask people in Buffalo if they are fans of the Rangers. The answer is a resounding “no”. Ask people on Long Island if they are a fan of the Islanders, and it’s a resounding “no”.

What does it all mean? People from Quebec are still generally Canadiens fans. But for a few short years, the Nordiques made inroads with players like Stastny, Goulet, Sakic, and Forsberg.

And it had nothing to do with politics.

[quote comment=”341445″][quote comment=”341433″][quote comment=”341410″][quote]P.S. fuck anyone who’s dissing the Crocs.[/quote]

how about mandals?[/quote]
That’s a rather broad category, sir. You gotta be more specific.[/quote]

in the general sense of the term, and for the purpose they serve, a simple yea or nay will suffice, my esteemed colleague[/quote]
Well, considering that…

1) I had to part with a pair of link recently becuause the soles had finally worn out

B) I’ve got a pair of link that I’ll wear from time to time

III) When I golf and it’s warm enough, I wear link.

…I’ll have to cast a yea vote.

[quote comment=”341454″][quote]Ask people on Long Island if they are a fan of the Islanders, and it’s a resounding “no”.[/quote]

wait…what?

aight…you win[/quote]

I was reading a report today about that very topic, Phil. It was heartbreaking from a Fisherman’s point of view. LOL

[quote comment=”341453″][quote comment=”341445″][quote comment=”341433″][quote comment=”341410″][quote]P.S. fuck anyone who’s dissing the Crocs.[/quote]

how about mandals?[/quote]
That’s a rather broad category, sir. You gotta be more specific.[/quote]

in the general sense of the term, and for the purpose they serve, a simple yea or nay will suffice, my esteemed colleague[/quote]
Well, considering that…

1) I had to part with a pair of link recently becuause the soles had finally worn out

B) I’ve got a pair of link that I’ll wear from time to time

III) When I golf and it’s warm enough, I wear link.

…I’ll have to cast a yea vote.[/quote]

I was never much of a sandal guy, until I got a pair of these:

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Not so much for the comfort or style, but for the feature in the sole:

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For those scoring at home, that’s a bottle opener.

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For those scoring at home, that’s a bottle opener.[/quote]

Greatest innovation in beach footwear EVER!

[quote comment=”341435″]http://www.identity.ucla.edu/overview/athleticscript.shtml
The UCLA Graphic Identity Program

This does not provide me why they use Ucla the way they do though…[/quote]

If it originated as a marching band move (which I believe it did), writing script is far more interesting that forming four separate capital letters. I’m guessing that’s all there is to it.

—Ricko

Check the lead picture on TSN right now.

link, anyone?

[quote comment=”341463″]Check the lead picture on TSN right now.

link, anyone?[/quote]
Damn, if it doesn’t look like Rock is wearing powder blue in that pic.

The Quebec Nordiques did not do that – they deliberately waved the flag – the Quebec flag – leaving it very open and reasonable to make the interpretation they were pro-Separatist. Keep in mind, Quebec City – where they played – is and always has been largely Separtist.

I also recall the Nordiques got a special dispensation from the NHL to give their PA announcements solely in French (they had a small intercom installed in the pressbox and the visitor’s bench area which would relay English language announcements for convenience). Canadiens players of the time, especially the French-Canadians, really resented what they saw as the Nordiques’ attempt to brand themselves as the “French” team — and, by contrast, the Canadiens as the “English” team.

Me, I liked the Nordiques jerseys. FWIW.

[quote comment=”341467″]The Quebec Nordiques did not do that – they deliberately waved the flag – the Quebec flag – leaving it very open and reasonable to make the interpretation they were pro-Separatist. Keep in mind, Quebec City – where they played – is and always has been largely Separtist.

I also recall the Nordiques got a special dispensation from the NHL to give their PA announcements solely in French (they had a small intercom installed in the pressbox and the visitor’s bench area which would relay English language announcements for convenience). Canadiens players of the time, especially the French-Canadians, really resented what they saw as the Nordiques’ attempt to brand themselves as the “French” team — and, by contrast, the Canadiens as the “English” team.

Me, I liked the Nordiques jerseys. FWIW.[/quote]

That is due to Quebec being a mostly French city. They have no English-speaking radio stations or English-written daily newspapers to this date. Because of their high number of French citizens (said to be nearly 80%), they asked that announcements for NHL games be in French for as much as possible.

International events, such as Rendez-Vous ’87, didn’t get the same treatment.

Montreal has a very distinct English segment of the population, and it counts for approximately 40% of the city’s population.

Gibbets…I am not allowed to wear my crocs off of my property although I LOVE THEM!

Actually sometime ago I did hear the Florida Marlins were so named for Florida and not Miami because they were to represent the entire state of Florida, and may have done so until the Rays entered the league. I moved here in 2000 (central florida) so always thougth it was odd they were called Florida and not Miami.

I also liked these Maryland unis over the current Under Armour set:

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War Damn Eagle, me too!
What ever happened to Bruce Perry and EJ Henderson?

ANd Phil, we here at UW, would consider these gimmicks when possible purchasing such an object!

Who uses a bottle opener anymore?

[quote comment=”341471″]Gibbets…I am not allowed to wear my crocs off of my property although I LOVE THEM![/quote]
With some of the ridiculous-looking footwear in your collection, it’s the Crocs she objects to you wearing in public?

[quote comment=”341447″][quote comment=”341438″]
I think your opinion would if you were to survey hockey fans in Quebec, would be by far in the minority.[/quote]

I can’t believe I have to say this, but the Montreal Canadiens – the “establishment” as you called them – had a far larger fanbase than the Nordiques did at any time in the NHL’s history. That would mean more people want the establishment, and less people were aligned as separatists.

Yet they’ve held referendums to separate as recently as 1995.

How can this be??? This is a direct contradiction of the riling establishment and the aligned separatists! World are colliding.

Or simply that the Nordiques were not aligned politically whatsoever.

I’ll opt for the latter since it’s way easier to explain and comprehend.

[quote comment=”341438″]In a politically charged environment – common sense would dictate – that you should simply stay away from making any statement – to make sure you are viewed as neutral on a very sensitive issue. The Quebec Nordiques did not do that – they deliberately waved the flag – the Quebec flag – leaving it very open and reasonable to make the interpretation they were pro-Separatist. Keep in mind, Quebec City – where they played – is and always has been largely Separtist.[/quote]

I’m not a political activist, but it’s usually a good idea to have large numbers of people in large, capital cities for things like demonstrations and rallies. Which is what Quebec City is. Again, I’m no political activist, but you rarely see people in small towns that are hundreds of miles away from the government center making an impact on government with political messages.

Marching on your capital city? Worked for Julius Caesar. Where do people in the US go when they want to drive home a political message for change? Washington, DC.

[quote comment=”341438″]That the last I say on it.[/quote]
Let the insanity end.[/quote]

To be honest – I’m having a hard time time following the logic of what you’re saying.

My point was – if you ask hockey fans in Quebec “Did the Quebec Nordiques uniform have political overtones – the majority would say “Yes it did” – that’s it.

I’m not sure what the point is – in stating the majority of Quebecois still pulled for the Habs? It’s irrelevant to the point I’m making. It has nothing to do with how as a hockey team they were run.

I will elaborate on a small point – there is a small movement in Western Canada that wants to separate, nothing compared to the movement in Quebec. Alberta is – if there is a hot-bed – which is an over-statement – probably where the movement is most active. I guarantee the reason the Flames stuck both the Provincial and National logo on, as opposed to just the Provincial – was to avoid any chance of being accused of making a Political statement.

I have no clue as what you meant by the next paragraph: (fyi – the heart of the Separtist support is in rural Quebec – Quebec City relative to Montreal votes more in favour of sovereignty.

I’m not a political activist, but it’s usually a good idea to have large numbers of people in large, capital cities for things like demonstrations and rallies. Which is what Quebec City is. Again, I’m no political activist, but you rarely see people in small towns that are hundreds of miles away from the government center making an impact on government with political messages.

[quote comment=”341481″]fyi – the heart of the Separtist support is in rural Quebec – Quebec City relative to Montreal votes more in favour of sovereignty.[/quote]

Because they have a larger French population than Montreal does. And, politically, it was the French that wanted to separate. Not just Quebec City Francophones, but the majority of the French – both Habs and Nords fans. The link, and would have a much smaller effect on the demographics of the vote.

Anyone know where I might buy the white/green special St. Patrick’s edition of the NY Giants cap? I sent this request out a few days ago and if you posted a reply, I’m sorry — I’ve been having trouble with my computer. Thanks.

[quote comment=”341485″]Anyone know where I might buy the white/green special St. Patrick’s edition of the NY Giants cap? I sent this request out a few days ago and if you posted a reply, I’m sorry — I’ve been having trouble with my computer. Thanks.[/quote]

somewhere beyond the gates of hell.

[quote comment=”341459″][quote comment=”341457″]
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For those scoring at home, that’s a bottle opener.[/quote]

Greatest innovation in beach footwear EVER![/quote]

True. That is, until these came along…

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Here is a look at the Plymouth Whalers 20th anniversary logo. This is the 20th season for the franchise although they haven’t always used the Whalers name during that time.

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[quote comment=”341492″][quote comment=”341462″][quote comment=”341410″][quote]P.S. fuck anyone who’s dissing the Crocs.[/quote]

how about mandals?[/quote]

tease me, it is fine, i can take it. i too think they are pretty friggin stupid. but damn if they ain’t comfy. and you can’t get a better shoe for the studio. they can get trashed etc. they are also perfect for cleaning my brushes, again etc.

so in summation…crocks are stupid, i have crocks, so link. but i am not giving them up, and will wear them proud.[/quote]
Crocs are ugly as a mud fence, but they are functional. You’d be surprised how many surgeons and surgery personnel swear by them (rather than just about them) for work – don’t want your feet to be taking your mind off someone else’s surgery. I only wear them at home myself.[/quote]

Y’all just need these in your sneakers link

[quote comment=”341479″][quote comment=”341471″]Gibbets…I am not allowed to wear my crocs off of my property although I LOVE THEM![/quote]
With some of the ridiculous-looking footwear in your collection, it’s the Crocs she objects to you wearing in public?[/quote]

how do we know he’s allowed to wear any of those in public?

[quote comment=”341490″]
Neither did Pudge. Where are people getting the idea that he switched his number in the middle of the game?[/quote]

I was simply pointing out the lack of a press conference to highlight this monumental change in the planet’s orbit. lol

[quote comment=”341331″][quote comment=”341322″][quote comment=”341316″][quote comment=”341309″][quote comment=”341307″][quote comment=”341298″][quote comment=”341285″]…Pontiac Central Chiers…
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Is that a misspelling: and if not, is there a story behind “Chiers”?[/quote]

I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.[/quote]

That’s great, but who are the Chefs?[/quote]

Happy Chef used to sponsor a pretty good softball team.[/quote]

wasn’t that a link?[/quote]

Huh? Who own da Chiefs?[/quote]

owwwnZUH! owwwnZUH!

I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet but the Seattle Mariners bullpen has three helmets like the ones the Spartans wore in the movie 300 cause they are warriors. Sorry no screen grabs.

[quote comment=”341285″]The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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WTF? Are you my neighbor or something? Michiganhelmetproject.org doesn’t have the helmet up yet though.

[quote comment=”341503″]WTF? Are you my neighbor or something? Michiganhelmetproject.org doesn’t have the helmet up yet though.[/quote]

He must not be the only one – I used to live a half-mile from Pontiac Northern.

[quote comment=”341331″][quote comment=”341322″][quote comment=”341316″][quote comment=”341309″][quote comment=”341307″][quote comment=”341298″][quote comment=”341285″]…Pontiac Central Chiers…
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Is that a misspelling: and if not, is there a story behind “Chiers”?[/quote]

I wondered the same thing at first, but it should read “Chiefs”.[/quote]

That’s great, but who are the Chefs?[/quote]

Happy Chef used to sponsor a pretty good softball team.[/quote]

wasn’t that a link?[/quote]

Huh? Who own da Chiefs?[/quote]
OWNS! OWNS!

[quote comment=”341503″][quote comment=”341285″]The Pontiac School District in Pontiac, MI has merged their two High Schools due to declining enrollment. The two High Schools Pontiac Northern Huskies (Colors Red and White) and Pontiac Central Chiers (Colors Black and Orange) will now be the Pontiac High Phoenix.

The Phoenix will be done in purple, black and silver – the new colors for the combined Pontiac High School that will open in September in the existing Northern High School building. The first football game is Aug. 22.

Above paragraph is from the article linked below.

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WTF? Are you my neighbor or something? Michiganhelmetproject.org doesn’t have the helmet up yet though.[/quote]

Well, I have no idea where you live but I am from Clarkston.

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