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New ESPN column today — here’s the link.

Meanwhile: Last week, in the middle of our server changeover, I got an e-mail from Chris Hill, with a subject line that read, “Homemade uniform traditions from Rochester.” For some reason it came through in teeny-tiny type that was nearly illegible, and there were 20 attached photos, all of which was more than I wanted to deal with in the midst of the site’s technical woes. I nearly deleted the e-mail altogether.

I’m glad I didn’t. What Chris had sent me was a document of a pretty amusing little project. I’ll let him describe it:

In 2006 a group of my friends and myself started playing baseball in a kid’s back yard. Within a week or so we decided to mow the grass to create an infield, and used his fence as a home run marker.

We played pickup games throughout the summer, but for the 4th of July we decided to have an All-Star Game. In order to make it official and over the top, we made up two teams: the Maplewood Steamboats and the Jambo City Harbors of Wellington. We also built a scoreboard and brought out a P.A. system and announcers for the game. We had yet to discover how to fully use the screen-printing uniform shop in town, so most of our uniforms were homemade. The Harbors even had separate batting practice uniforms, but no picture exists of us in those.

Winter came along and we decided to do the same thing with a football game. It was slightly less intense, but we once again had the same teams wearing homemade uniforms.

This past summer we all had some money and ideas, so baseball was much more enjoyable. We started off the year making spring training jerseys to wear randomly throughout the season. At some point we realized we were doing the All-Star Game wrong — it should be a game between two leagues, not two teams. So the Steamboats and harbors turned into the League of Steamboats and the Harbor Leagues. From there we created about 16 different teams, all based on inside jokes and cities someone had been to: the Douglas Gorns [that’s Chris wearing No. 44; note the all-star game sleeve patch! — PL], Joe Montana 3-D Graphichs Manipulators, Toronto Tippy Ducks, Gnomes, Tuscon Tra La Las, Mt. Rushmore Compatriots, Boise Canistorshots, Brockport USB-ports and the Ocean City Monsoons. The guy in that last photo got so into it that he had home and away jerseys made, but the shop mistakenly put the team name on the road jersey, instead of the city name, so he bought the botched jerseys at a discount and went back to have it done right, giving him a total of FOUR jerseys, when he just needed one — dedication.

Indeed. And that dedication is what I love about this project. Okay, so the uniforms kinda suck, and many of you probably think the whole thing has “Get a life” written all over it, but so what? The day you’re too cool to embrace your own little field of dreams fantasy is the day you may as well pack it in. Instead of sitting on their sofas watching the ballgame or playing with the latest EA video game, these guys built something real. I say good for them.

Raffle Results: The three winners of last night’s raffle are, in order, J. Yung (who gets his choice of an L.A. Kings jersey, a Washington Capitals T-shirt or an assortment of MLB sleeve patches), Mike Carpenter (who gets to choose from the remaining two items), and Rick White (who’ll get whatever item is left). The three winners should get in touch with me asap.

Thanks to all who entered — more raffles coming soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Yesterday’s comments included excerpts from this article, which suggests that the new NHL jerseys are (a) possibly causing injuries during fights and (b) tearing at the seams. I don’t have much sympathy for fight-related concerns (simple solution: ban fighting), but there’s a lot of very interesting info here — start with the sixth paragraph. ”¦ Also from yesterday: The UK has produced a really nice series of stamps documenting the history of British military uniforms. You can click through the gallery here. ”¦ We’ve all seen photos of Rich Karlis kicking barefoot. But Brendon Yarian found a photo of him doing, well, a little more than kicking. ”¦ Dynamite Hanshin Tigers uniform history site here. Even if you don’t care about Japanese baseball, this is worth checking out, because the site is nicely interactive (start clicking and you’ll see what I mean) and many of the designs are wicked cool (nice find by Scott Curl). ”¦ Yet another case of a 2 rendered in two different ways on the same jersey: the Rangers. ”¦ Still more typography news: Kansas’s university-wide move to the Trajan typeface has resulted in a backlash movement (with thanks to longtime Uni Watch pal Rob Walker, who first brought the anti-Trajan site to my attention on his own excellent blog, Murketing). ”¦ Best argument yet for a barter economy: Purple is being added to the $5 bill. Alarming details here. ”¦ The Washington Huskies will wear 1960 throwbacks on Sept. 29th. According to this page, the team wore navy back then, but it was called “Northwestern Purple.” Odd (with thanks to Rob Weber). ”¦ Who needs a game-worn jersey when you can have Sandy Koufax’s synagogue-worn yarmulke? ”¦ Good info here about the Redskins’ throwbacks, which they’ll be wearing this weekend while pounding the living shit out of playing the Giants. ”¦ Reprinted from last night’s comments: Texas A&M tight end Martellus Bennett changed his uni number from 13 to 85 to honor injured Bills player Kevin Everett, but his helmet still has his old uni number. … Arguably the weirdest reason ever for choosing a particular uni number: According to this article (forwarded by Jeff Barak), Wild rookie James Sheppard likes No. 15 because he “began wearing it as a 15-year-old midget player because he already had size 15 feet.” … If your coach can grab you like this, then your jersey’s definitely a few sizes too big. … My friend Liz Danzico, who’s more or less a genius, recently started a really good site called A Brief Message, which features a series of 200-word essays about design. I wrote a little something about uniforms for today’s installment, which longtime readers will recognize as a re-hash of the very first post that ran on this here blog. My own redundant content notwithstanding, A Brief Message is well worth checking out for anyone who cares even a little bit about design, sports-related or otherwise.

 
  
 
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    Big round of applause to the Field of Dreams gang. A bunch of friends goofing off and having fun together – no one is too cool in the room to appreciate that.

    Brings back my childhood memories of spray painting yard markers on the street where we played NERF football. Ah, vandalism…

    Props to those guys for getting out of the house and away from the video games. I wonder if they would be able to play under the light from the fireworks on the 4th of July like The Sandlot.

    You’re killin’ me, Smalls.

    Well, some may think it is lame (I’m sure my wife would), but I think it is cool that they had the dedication to make their own unis, and then play the games.

    Did anyone see the Braves/Brewers game last night? Jeff Bennett made his first major league start last night for the Braves, and he was rocking the stirrups. Of course, he got the win.

    Can’t find any pics, though.

    ~E~

    Slow day at the UW house?

    More importantly about the $5 bill…you know what they strong>CLAIM about Mr Lincoln…

    I can deal with the purple in the new fiver but what really pisses me off about the various new designs is that they’re so inconsistent from denomination to denomination. From the $5 up they all have mostly the same template, but the colors are kinda the same and kinda different. And they’re revamping each note one by one in this ad hoc, half-assed manner. Meanwhile the single hasn’t adopted any of the new features and looks like totally out of place.

    I know the Euro has taken some heat for having non-existent windows and bridges on the notes, but at least the design scheme is coherent, despite color and size variations.

    Seeing this feild of dream-ish post has given me an idea. I played competative Laser tag for about 7 years, nearly every team at competion was decked out in their respective uniforms, usually a nifty t-shirt and matching gym shorts. If anyone shows any interest I can spend some time later and dig up some of the better designs and post em here. If not I’ll just spend my afternoon looking at them by myself and crying myself to sleep on my huge pillow.

    [quote comment=”145629″]Well, some may think it is lame (I’m sure my wife would), but I think it is cool that they had the dedication to make their own unis, and then play the games.

    Did anyone see the Braves/Brewers game last night? Jeff Bennett made his first major league start last night for the Braves, and he was rocking the stirrups. Of course, he got the win.

    Can’t find any pics, though.

    ~E~[/quote]

    Video Evidence link.

    I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.

    Got to give it up t the sand lot gang. It should not even be a question if its cool or not. Who cares, I am just glad to see some youth doing something positive and pro-active. If I was in that town, i would have to volunteer to umpire the games. Good for them indeed.

    On another note, hockey can not, and should not, ban fighting. I’m not going to get into it, but fighting in hockey is not just two thugs going after eachother, it serves a purpose that, believe it or not, keeps the games safer and in order. I am sure the other hickey guys here would back me up.

    I can deal with the purple in the new fiver but what really pisses me off about the various new designs is that they’re so inconsistent from denomination to denomination. From the $5 up they all have mostly the same template, but the colors are kinda the same and kinda different.

    Which makes counterfeiting that much more difficult.
    In the Rich Karlis photo, I don’t get it. What are we looking at? It just looks like he’s watching the other players trying to recover the football.

    Who cares if the uniforms suck? Most of them are rockin’ the stirrups and high socks, something we need to see more of.

    Personally, I’m jealous I never had that growing up, in my back yard…

    [quote comment=”145637″]Got to give it up t the sand lot gang. It should not even be a question if its cool or not. Who cares, I am just glad to see some youth doing something positive and pro-active. If I was in that town, i would have to volunteer to umpire the games. Good for them indeed.

    On another note, hockey can not, and should not, ban fighting. I’m not going to get into it, but fighting in hockey is not just two thugs going after eachother, it serves a purpose that, believe it or not, keeps the games safer and in order. I am sure the other hickey guys here would back me up.[/quote]
    I meant the other hockey guys. I hope we don’t have any hickey guys here.

    My Christmas wish list:
    1. Pens win Cup
    2. Peace on Earth
    3. Edit button on Uniwatch Blog Comments

    How many NCAA teams have worn white at home recently. I’ve seen LSU, Vandy, and Mississippi State where white at home this season.

    Also, how many games have featured neither team wearing white, a la Rutgers-Norfolk State. Didn’t Oregon wear their yellow jerseys on the road last year once?

    [quote comment=”145631″]I can deal with the purple in the new fiver but what really pisses me off about the various new designs is that they’re so inconsistent from denomination to denomination. From the $5 up they all have mostly the same template, but the colors are kinda the same and kinda different. And they’re revamping each note one by one in this ad hoc, half-assed manner. Meanwhile the single hasn’t adopted any of the new features and looks like totally out of place.[/quote]

    They don’t look great, but I think that’s kind of the point, because they figure if they keep changing them (and they plan to change them all every few years) and make them different, they’ll be easier to tell apart and harder to fake. I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it anytime soon because it’s not often faked, and that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    [quote comment=”145645″]
    They don’t look great, but I think that’s kind of the point, [/quote]

    I should clarify that I didn’t mean that not looking good was the point, but that they’re supposed to all look a little different and have different colors.

    I think those kids rule. When i was a kid we had a wiffle park in my yard we kept stats and everything I wish we had thought of the uni’s. i totaly love that there are more people like me out there. Now i don’t feel compleatly nuts

    where do they live? i wanna join… man ohh man i haven’t played ball in 3 years (since high school) and i miss it soo much… the field and the uniforms and the pa system makes me want to move to suburbia and go field of dream on my backyard.

    [quote comment=”145643″]How many NCAA teams have worn white at home recently. I’ve seen LSU, Vandy, and Mississippi State where white at home this season.

    Also, how many games have featured neither team wearing white, a la Rutgers-Norfolk State. Didn’t Oregon wear their yellow jerseys on the road last year once?[/quote]
    LSU wears white at a majority of their homes games.

    LAME??? No effin’ way! I want to play in those games so bad it hurts! Props to all involved! Home made unis, no logo creep and even All-Star game patches! On a scale of one to ten, this goes to eleven!

    That’s awesome!

    The funniest part is that I’m wondering if those kids live in my development as I live in a suburb of Rochester and it’s called Wellington.

    I’ll need to wander around next summer and search out the field.

    Did anyone else catch the Hampton/Morgan State football game on ESPNU last night? I ask because I noticed 2 Morgan State players that added decals to their helmets.

    Normally, the Morgan State helmet looks like link. However, there were 2 individuals – one being the QB and another on the defense – that had a “Morgan” wordmark decal – similar to the link – stuck on the front of the helmet as well.

    Just wanted to know if anyone caught this or got a screen grab or picture of it.

    Nice to see they decided to model their homemade football uniforms after the classic and storied University of Oregon.

    I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it…that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    Of course they can solve the aesthetic problem problem AND save money at the same time by axing the $1 note at committing to the dollar coin.

    [quote comment=”145657″]I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it…that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    Of course they can solve the aesthetic problem problem AND save money at the same time by axing the $1 note at committing to the dollar coin.[/quote]
    When I was in Scotland a couple years ago, I got used to not having anything below a 5-pound note as far as “foldin’ money”. It didn’t take long to grow accustomed to the 1 and 2 pound coins.

    I’d be all for losing the 1 dollar bill, as well as the penny.

    Fighting in hockey doesn’t happen all that often enough for it to be banned. Besides, if Cam Janssen gets hurt from fighting, the entire league is better off for it. However, fighting in hockey is as integral as hitting in football. If you take it out, I guarantee you that cheap shots on star players goes up exponentially.

    As for the Sandlot crew, that is probably the best things I have seen to date to warrant an “Honourary Member” status. They created jerseys with stirrups for individula teams, made their own scoreboard, and are having fun. If anyone should be honoured with member status, those guys should be.

    It takes me back to our days of 3-on-3 baseball. That was a workout and a half.

    I love how the nameplate isn’t even close to being centered over the numbers:
    link

    And this is a logo that I had not seen before… and not sure I want to see again:
    link

    A uni-related question to team historian Lee Remmel from Packers.com:

    “Hi Lee, when was the last game, if ever, in which the Packers wore their road uniforms for a regular season game at Lambeau? Thanks! – Frank, Los Angeles

    Dear Frank, I haven’t been able to come up with a definitive answer to your question, but I have found some related information. Equipment Manager Gordon “Red” Batty said, “We haven’t worn white in “Lambeau” in my 14 years here. But Bryan Nehring (assistant equipment manager) has been here longer and may have other information from previous years).”

    And Nehring did have an answer, although he wasn’t able to identify the specific year involved. He recalled, “It was in the late ’80s or early ’90s, very hot, in the first three weeks of September, and we were playing Tampa Bay, who had Vinny Testaverde at quarterback. We decided to wear white because we wanted to see if the white jersey would be cooler than the green we normally would wear for a home game.”

    The jury apparently is still out on that specific question. “We haven’t done it since that time (worn white jerseys at home),” Nehring said, “so I would guess it wasn’t a big factor.” ”

    Anyone here remember this at all?

    The current helmet logo, of an Indian chief in full head-dress, was adopted in 1972.

    Sometimes, of course, there’s a sense of superstition involved in the look of the team. In 2005, for instance, the team went 6-0 (including a playoff win) with its white-on-white attire late in the season.

    The six game playoff “white on white” superstition sent a new design for the Redskins unis into the never to be seen again files. They were burgundy. black and yellow. Very sweet.

    [quote comment=”145641″][quote comment=”145637″]

    My Christmas wish list:
    1. Pens win Cup
    2. Peace on Earth
    3. Edit button on Uniwatch Blog Comments[/quote]

    In that order? Really?

    The Washington Huskies will wear 1960 throwbacks on Sept. 29th. According to this page, the team wore navy back then, but it was called “Northwestern Purple.”

    Nice swooshes. Just like Mom used to make back in ’60.

    Hey James, we don’t all live in the development but we play there (I live in the city). I didn’t know if anyone from Rochester even read this. Some of the neighbors out there got real mad at us but cars would just like park out there and watch. I, Ryan (the shorter of the Mt.Rushmore set), would like to say this probably made my year being “featured” on this site.

    Last night I watched the end of the Mullen-Cherry Creek football game (because John Elway’s son is the Cherry Creek QB, and they gave him the ball with 2:00 left down by 7, and just like in the movies he had no protection so he was sacked twice and fumbled twice and they lost) and the Mullen helmets had a “BB” decal on the back. Any Denver-area folks know what that’s about?

    Also, Mullen’s uniforms had some link. (Plus they had some big UA logos. *thumbs down*

    I love how it’s always people who don’t follow hockey who want to suggest all of the changes to the sport. I wish the NHL would do what they should have done a long time ago–tell the critics to cram it and do whatever they want to do. Most of those people will never watch hockey in the first place–so why listen to them and subsequently anger your hardcore fans?

    [quote comment=”145636″]I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.[/quote]

    I have hated the burgundy pants since the team started wearing them decades ago. That color does not look good on pants in general, and the two thick stripes look awkward and unbalanced. I was loving the white-on-white look and wished that the team would have stuck with it.

    [quote comment=”145639″]
    In the Rich Karlis photo, I don’t get it. What are we looking at? It just looks like he’s watching the other players trying to recover the football.[/quote]

    exactly what i was thinking…

    those pics of the field got me thinking,
    one of my favorite sports comedians, john caponera, links to this wiffle ball field.
    link

    [quote comment=”145676″][quote comment=”145636″]I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.[/quote]

    I have hated the burgundy pants since the team started wearing them decades ago. That color does not look good on pants in general, and the two thick stripes look awkward and unbalanced. I was loving the white-on-white look and wished that the team would have stuck with it.[/quote]

    I love the burgundy pants/white top combo. It’s the burgundy top/white pants I dislike.

    [quote comment=”145675″]I love how it’s always people who don’t follow hockey who want to suggest all of the changes to the sport. I wish the NHL would do what they should have done a long time ago–tell the critics to cram it and do whatever they want to do. Most of those people will never watch hockey in the first place–so why listen to them and subsequently anger your hardcore fans?[/quote]

    I am a lifelong hockey fan. When I was 8 yrs old, I’d fall asleep to the sounds of Marv Albert calling Rangers games on the radio (home games weren’t televised in those days). Before I knew anything about college, I wanted to go to Cornell just because Ken Dryden went there.

    And yes, I’d like to see the NHL ban fighting. I’m not trying to start that debate here, so let’s not go down that road. I’m just saying that you can’t write me (or anyone) off as someone who “doesn’t follow the sport” simply because I’m proposing something you disagree with.

    Actually the home uniform was modeled after the nike “football is everything” commercial. We snuck into a local high school to play, so i used that template a few hours before we played. I am a huge Oregon fan tho, and the numbers were going to be modeled after the ducks tapered ones but they cam out no looking like that. (I’m number 19 in the black) Heres the commercial:
    link

    [quote comment=”145660″]
    I’d be all for losing the 1 dollar bill, as well as the penny.[/quote]

    Please – think of the strippers, man.

    I just read in yesterday’s USA Today the the Cleveland Indians will be searching for a corporate partner to rename their ballpark. So good-bye Jacobs Field and Helloooo LendingTree.com Park!

    Thought I’d throw link Marseille photo out there for comments.

    Paul….it has no purple or black…..but you may have comments.

    [quote comment=”145672″]Hey James, we don’t all live in the development but we play there (I live in the city). I didn’t know if anyone from Rochester even read this. Some of the neighbors out there got real mad at us but cars would just like park out there and watch. I, Ryan (the shorter of the Mt.Rushmore set), would like to say this probably made my year being “featured” on this site.[/quote]

    Henrietta representin’!! I wore my Uni-Watch shirt to the Public Market a couple of weeks ago and actually had some random guy mention he liked it, so unless it was one of your gang, there’s at least one more out there…

    And props to the pickup games in general, let alone the uniforms (although I love the effort put forth on those)! It’s been a long time since I’ve been able to participate in a pickup hockey game, and we used to do all the stats and stuff too, back in the day. I miss that!

    [quote comment=”145669″]The current helmet logo, of an Indian chief in full head-dress, was adopted in 1972.

    Sometimes, of course, there’s a sense of superstition involved in the look of the team. In 2005, for instance, the team went 6-0 (including a playoff win) with its white-on-white attire late in the season.

    The six game playoff “white on white” superstition sent a new design for the Redskins unis into the never to be seen again files. They were burgundy. black and yellow. Very sweet.[/quote]

    Any more information on what the design would have been>

    Soerry for the REPRINT
    Schutt is known for creating custom masks from at least the 1970’s (Doug Williams with the Tampa Bay Bucs wore one when he broke his jaw back in the late 70’s) and to this day they feature custom masks on their website as an option. Also, I know that for many teams who wear Riddell helmets (with the Revolution model being an exception) they still use Schutt masks due to a better quality mask.
    P.S. Steelers definitely need to wear grey facemasks and black shoes to complete the throwback look.
    P.S.S. HelmetHut.com has a great article on the Iowas State throwback helmets.

    [quote comment=”145690″]
    And props to the pickup games in general, let alone the uniforms (although I love the effort put forth on those)! It’s been a long time since I’ve been able to participate in a pickup hockey game, and we used to do all the stats and stuff too, back in the day. I miss that![/quote]

    Now we’re talking.

    We used to have “regular season” games between streets in the neighbourhoods around my place. There were four streets that had enough kids (read: 6) to “ice” a full street hockey team. Every Sunday, there would be games to 10 played in a dead end section of the street in “Old Timer Arena” or the racquetball court at a local tennis court, called “Madison Squared Garden”. After 12 weeks (usually December to February), playoffs would be played on a weekend in early March – Saturdays for the semi-finals, and Sunday for the finals.

    I wish I was 12 again. :o)

    [quote comment=”145685″][quote comment=”145660″]
    I’d be all for losing the 1 dollar bill, as well as the penny.[/quote]

    Please – think of the strippers, man.[/quote]
    that makes for a whole new coin slot

    [quote comment=”145662″]Fighting in hockey doesn’t happen all that often enough for it to be banned.[/quote]

    i understand the justification, but does fighting happen enough in baseball and basketball for it to be wrong there?

    [quote comment=”145662″]
    As for the Sandlot crew, that is probably the best things I have seen to date to warrant an “Honourary Member” status. They created jerseys with stirrups for individula teams, made their own scoreboard, and are having fun. If anyone should be honoured with member status, those guys should be.[/quote]

    hmm, like this?
    link

    [quote comment=”145697″][quote comment=”145662″]If anyone should be honoured with member status, those guys should be.[/quote]

    hmm, like this?
    link

    Post of the day. Or the week.

    [quote comment=”145685″][quote comment=”145660″]
    I’d be all for losing the 1 dollar bill, as well as the penny.[/quote]

    Please – think of the strippers, man.[/quote]

    Not a problem. I understand that in Canada the patrons toss dollar coins (“Loonies”) to the performers.

    Locally (DFW), the clubs give change in two dollar bills to encourage larger tips.

    Rochester eh?

    Being Canadian I can only wish that I could live near that neighbourhood!!! Ya’ don’t see stuff like it in downtown Toronto… trust me!

    Great to see spirit like that! Bravo!

    [quote comment=”145666″]I love how the nameplate isn’t even close to being centered over the numbers:
    link

    And this is a logo that I had not seen before… and not sure I want to see again:
    link
    That Rebels’ logo is quite the startling juxtaposition for a semiotician to unpack.

    [quote comment=”145697″][quote comment=”145662″]Fighting in hockey doesn’t happen all that often enough for it to be banned.[/quote]

    i understand the justification, but does fighting happen enough in baseball and basketball for it to be wrong there?[/quote]

    The difference is that fighting in hockey is a way that the players police themselves. You don’t hit a Wayne Gretzky or a Steve Yzerman knee-on-knee without knowing that Dave Semenko or Bob Probert was going to kill you on your next shift. It was a way to keep a highly emotional and violent game in check… before the ridiculous instigator rule was made up.

    The Anaheim Ducks proved the importance of fighting last season as none of their stars missed significant time due to the Ducks sticking up for one another. Anaheim had the most fighting majors last season in the NHL, 32% more than second-place Phoenix. Brian Burke even said, “That’s why Corey Perry doesn’t get roughed up after whistles. That’s why Ryan Getzlaf doesn’t get punched in the head after he takes a shot at the net. We have a team that makes people accountable. That’s never going to change as long as I’m here.”

    As long as it’s being used in the right way, and you’re not just icing a bunch of goons, fighting in hockey is as important as the puck.

    [quote comment=”145697″][quote comment=”145662″]
    As for the Sandlot crew, that is probably the best things I have seen to date to warrant an “Honourary Member” status. They created jerseys with stirrups for individula teams, made their own scoreboard, and are having fun. If anyone should be honoured with member status, those guys should be.[/quote]

    hmm, like this?
    link

    Awesome cards, Todd. Those should be the Honourary Member Cards. That’s sweet!

    [quote comment=”145660″][quote comment=”145657″]I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it…that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    Of course they can solve the aesthetic problem problem AND save money at the same time by axing the $1 note at committing to the dollar coin.[/quote]
    When I was in Scotland a couple years ago, I got used to not having anything below a 5-pound note as far as “foldin’ money”. It didn’t take long to grow accustomed to the 1 and 2 pound coins.

    I’d be all for losing the 1 dollar bill, as well as the penny.[/quote]

    Things like this work well in Europe or even Canada eh…but lets face it, Bums, stripers and those idiot guitar playing suitcase open subway performers wont like lugging around coins, nor does the average man…rememeber Sachagawia? (spelling is like darts, close is good enough) therefore we as american will never loose the $1 BILL, we dont coins…why do you think so many of us are stupid enough to throw them in wishing ponds? B/c paper doesnt sink

    Yesterday’s comments included excerpts from this article, which suggests that the new NHL jerseys are (a) possibly causing injuries during fights and (b) tearing at the seams.

    A few years back, largely as a result of Marty McSorley’s pre-fight striptease, the league instituted a rule that a player received a misconduct penalty if his jersey came off during a fight. It’ll be interesting to see how that’s enforced if jerseys are TORN off during fights.

    [quote comment=”145667″]A uni-related question to team historian Lee Remmel from Packers.com:

    “Hi Lee, when was the last game, if ever, in which the Packers wore their road uniforms for a regular season game at Lambeau? Thanks! – Frank, Los Angeles

    Dear Frank, I haven’t been able to come up with a definitive answer to your question, but I have found some related information. Equipment Manager Gordon “Red” Batty said, “We haven’t worn white in “Lambeau” in my 14 years here. But Bryan Nehring (assistant equipment manager) has been here longer and may have other information from previous years).”

    And Nehring did have an answer, although he wasn’t able to identify the specific year involved. He recalled, “It was in the late ’80s or early ’90s, very hot, in the first three weeks of September, and we were playing Tampa Bay, who had Vinny Testaverde at quarterback. We decided to wear white because we wanted to see if the white jersey would be cooler than the green we normally would wear for a home game.”

    The jury apparently is still out on that specific question. “We haven’t done it since that time (worn white jerseys at home),” Nehring said, “so I would guess it wasn’t a big factor.” ”

    Anyone here remember this at all?[/quote]
    Kind of related… the Pack wore their home jerseys in a preseason game versus the Titans this year. I thought it was extremely odd to see the Pack in green jerseys away from Lambeau.
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    [quote comment=”145675″]I love how it’s always people who don’t follow hockey who want to suggest all of the changes to the sport. I wish the NHL would do what they should have done a long time ago–tell the critics to cram it and do whatever they want to do. Most of those people will never watch hockey in the first place–so why listen to them and subsequently anger your hardcore fans?[/quote]
    Best post of the day.

    I like how Janssen is mentioning the jersey issues when the dude who kicked his can is trained in martial arts.

    NHL meets UFC means some real knockouts… just ask Todd Fedoruk.

    I went to the “Trajan Sucks” site and it mentions the Yankees are changing their font to Trajan…was that a joke or is there something up with that?

    [quote comment=”145706″]Yesterday’s comments included excerpts from this article, which suggests that the new NHL jerseys are (a) possibly causing injuries during fights and (b) tearing at the seams.

    A few years back, largely as a result of Marty McSorley’s pre-fight striptease, the league instituted a rule that a player received a misconduct penalty if his jersey came off during a fight. It’ll be interesting to see how that’s enforced if jerseys are TORN off during fights.[/quote]

    It was Rob Ray. The rule is called the “Rob Ray Rule” regarding the fighting strap not being done up or altered in any way so that it came apart. Ray was always topless after a fight.

    The “Marty McSorley Rule” is if any player is caught altering their jersey. McSorley used to wear a jersey that had extra fabric sewn into the sleeves so that if he got into a fight, he could still throw punches while a guy hung onto his extra-loose sleeves. These was deemed an unfair advantage, and was banned by the league.

    Redskins throwback unis look great and helmets have grey facemasks! Would have loved to see the feather helmet instead of the Lombardi ‘R’.

    The Washington Huskies color referred to is actually “Northwest Purple,” not “Northwestern.” But it’s described as navy blue, not purple at all, so it still doesn’t make much sense.

    Ah, bringing me back to the days of old. I remember playing whiffle in my back yard with the neigbor kids. We played 1 on 1 and had a league of 3 teams. The foul poles were the exhaust vents, with the home run fence being the driveway gate. Anything off the wall/roof was fair play, and as long as you cought it before it hit the ground, it was an out. We even had our plastic batting helmets we got at ball games and 3 or 4 different whiffle bats to choose from when batting.

    [quote comment=”145703″][quote comment=”145697″][quote comment=”145662″]Fighting in hockey doesn’t happen all that often enough for it to be banned.[/quote]

    i understand the justification, but does fighting happen enough in baseball and basketball for it to be wrong there?[/quote]

    The difference is that fighting in hockey is a way that the players police themselves. You don’t hit a Wayne Gretzky or a Steve Yzerman knee-on-knee without knowing that Dave Semenko or Bob Probert was going to kill you on your next shift. It was a way to keep a highly emotional and violent game in check… before the ridiculous instigator rule was made up.

    The Anaheim Ducks proved the importance of fighting last season as none of their stars missed significant time due to the Ducks sticking up for one another. Anaheim had the most fighting majors last season in the NHL, 32% more than second-place Phoenix. Brian Burke even said, “That’s why Corey Perry doesn’t get roughed up after whistles. That’s why Ryan Getzlaf doesn’t get punched in the head after he takes a shot at the net. We have a team that makes people accountable. That’s never going to change as long as I’m here.”

    As long as it’s being used in the right way, and you’re not just icing a bunch of goons, fighting in hockey is as important as the puck.

    [/quote]

    let me see if i understand this correctly. the fighting or policing (which i think is probably a better word because when fighting is used, im imaginging these 1 on 1 bloodbaths) is similar to a charles oakley hard foul on a piston who may have fouled jordan a bit too hard? or a brush back pitch to a batter who earlier may have cleated a short stop in a take out slide that was too wide?

    [quote comment=”145703″][quote comment=”145697″][quote comment=”145662″]Fighting in hockey doesn’t happen all that often enough for it to be banned.[/quote]

    i understand the justification, but does fighting happen enough in baseball and basketball for it to be wrong there?[/quote]

    The difference is that fighting in hockey is a way that the players police themselves. You don’t hit a Wayne Gretzky or a Steve Yzerman knee-on-knee without knowing that Dave Semenko or Bob Probert was going to kill you on your next shift. It was a way to keep a highly emotional and violent game in check… before the ridiculous instigator rule was made up.

    The Anaheim Ducks proved the importance of fighting last season as none of their stars missed significant time due to the Ducks sticking up for one another. Anaheim had the most fighting majors last season in the NHL, 32% more than second-place Phoenix. Brian Burke even said, “That’s why Corey Perry doesn’t get roughed up after whistles. That’s why Ryan Getzlaf doesn’t get punched in the head after he takes a shot at the net. We have a team that makes people accountable. That’s never going to change as long as I’m here.”

    As long as it’s being used in the right way, and you’re not just icing a bunch of goons, fighting in hockey is as important as the puck.

    [/quote]

    Amen. Take fighting out of hockey and you will start to see more cheap shots like high-sticking, knee on knee hits, elbows to the head, etc.

    [quote comment=”145670″][quote comment=”145641″][quote comment=”145637″]

    My Christmas wish list:
    1. Pens win Cup
    2. Peace on Earth
    3. Edit button on Uniwatch Blog Comments[/quote]

    In that order? Really?[/quote]
    Yes, in that order. Well, actually, numbers one and two default each other, because if the Pens win the Cup, then that would bring Peace on Earth. Don’t ask me how, it just would.

    This article got me out of bed this morning after a phone call from chris saying we made it on uniwatch. it’s what we live for in the summers between work and whatever else is going on, and every year it gets better and better. yea STEAMBOATS!!!!

    -Rob
    #10 Mt. Rushmore

    [quote comment=”145712″]The Washington Huskies color referred to is actually “Northwest Purple,” not “Northwestern.” But it’s described as navy blue, not purple at all, so it still doesn’t make much sense.[/quote]

    From what I gather (and Paul will appreciate this) it was really hard to find a purple dye that would hold in the wool football uniforms of the time, so the Huskies went with Navy blue (evidently readily available). Wait, wasn’t the world in black and white back then anyway?

    [quote comment=”145721″]Quick, what does everybody think of link alteration to the new Sharks jersey?

    Rough as hell, but you get the idea.[/quote]
    A little top heavy, but not displeasing to the eye overall.

    [quote comment=”145707″]
    Kind of related… the Pack wore their home jerseys in a preseason game versus the Titans this year. I thought it was extremely odd to see the Pack in green jerseys away from Lambeau.
    link
    link[/quote]

    Well a number of teams use white home unis so I don’t think it’s surprising to see the pack wear green away from Lambeau, but to wear white at Lambeau is a whole other story.

    [quote comment=”145714″]
    let me see if i understand this correctly. the fighting or policing (which i think is probably a better word because when fighting is used, im imaginging these 1 on 1 bloodbaths) is similar to a charles oakley hard foul on a piston who may have fouled jordan a bit too hard? or a brush back pitch to a batter who earlier may have cleated a short stop in a take out slide that was too wide?[/quote]

    Somewhat similar, but not entirely the same.

    Wayne Gretzky, Steve Yzerman, and Mario Lemieux are the guys that put people in the seats and, for the most part, put wins on the scoresheet. If those players get hurt by a knee-on-knee hit or a check from behind into the boards or concussion from a punch to the head, your team could miss the playoffs depending on how long he is out. All of those “cheap shots” I just listed normally result in injury, and losing your most-skilled player for any length of time will certainly hurt your team. Don’t forget: hitting is hockey is football on ice, only faster. Taking a clean bodycheck hurts. Taking a dirty, unexpected one hurts a lot more.

    Once the fight is over, the game resumes. If there is any other bad blood between the two teams, normally the designated goons will slug it out, not the skilled players. Occasionally, there is a retaliation of going after the other team’s skilled player, but once the fight happens to “rectify” the situation, it rarely carries over.

    A hard foul on a Piston will only result in a harder foul being put on Jordan. What Oakley has done, in your example, is made a bad situation worse. Instead of making it equal, he has forced the Pistons to one-up Oakley’s antics again.

    Cleating a shortstop in a takeout slide is not part of the game, and the player in baseball who commits this foul should be ejected and/or suspended. Hitting him with a beanball only makes a bad situation worse as most beanball retaliations result in bench-clearing brawls.

    [quote comment=”145714″][quote comment=”145703″][quote comment=”145697″][quote comment=”145662″]Fighting in hockey doesn’t happen all that often enough for it to be banned.[/quote]

    i understand the justification, but does fighting happen enough in baseball and basketball for it to be wrong there?[/quote]

    The difference is that fighting in hockey is a way that the players police themselves. You don’t hit a Wayne Gretzky or a Steve Yzerman knee-on-knee without knowing that Dave Semenko or Bob Probert was going to kill you on your next shift. It was a way to keep a highly emotional and violent game in check… before the ridiculous instigator rule was made up.

    The Anaheim Ducks proved the importance of fighting last season as none of their stars missed significant time due to the Ducks sticking up for one another. Anaheim had the most fighting majors last season in the NHL, 32% more than second-place Phoenix. Brian Burke even said, “That’s why Corey Perry doesn’t get roughed up after whistles. That’s why Ryan Getzlaf doesn’t get punched in the head after he takes a shot at the net. We have a team that makes people accountable. That’s never going to change as long as I’m here.”

    As long as it’s being used in the right way, and you’re not just icing a bunch of goons, fighting in hockey is as important as the puck.

    [/quote]

    let me see if i understand this correctly. the fighting or policing (which i think is probably a better word because when fighting is used, im imaginging these 1 on 1 bloodbaths) is similar to a charles oakley hard foul on a piston who may have fouled jordan a bit too hard? or a brush back pitch to a batter who earlier may have cleated a short stop in a take out slide that was too wide?[/quote]
    Great way of putting it. Baseball is even trying to do away with the bean ball and I’m not OK with that either. A guy spikes a player or thinks his ego is bigger than the game, hit em on the butt or thigh. Guy crowds the plate, hit em. I won’t comment on basketball as it’s not my sport.

    [quote comment=”145705″][quote comment=”145660″][quote comment=”145657″]I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it…that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    Of course they can solve the aesthetic problem problem AND save money at the same time by axing the $1 note at committing to the dollar coin.[/quote]
    When I was in Scotland a couple years ago, I got used to not having anything below a 5-pound note as far as “foldin’ money”. It didn’t take long to grow accustomed to the 1 and 2 pound coins.

    I’d be all for losing the 1 dollar bill, as well as the penny.[/quote]

    Things like this work well in Europe or even Canada eh…but lets face it, Bums, stripers and those idiot guitar playing suitcase open subway performers wont like lugging around coins, nor does the average man…rememeber Sachagawia? (spelling is like darts, close is good enough) therefore we as american will never loose the $1 BILL, we dont coins…why do you think so many of us are stupid enough to throw them in wishing ponds? B/c paper doesnt sink[/quote]

    The single can stay. The penny on the other hand, needs to be revamped. Who would make a coin worth 1 cent that costs 2 cents to make? … Who would take that 2 cents worth of metal and use them in transactions where the only got 1 cent of worth out of them? …

    [quote comment=”145721″]Quick, what does everybody think of link alteration to the new Sharks jersey?

    Rough as hell, but you get the idea.[/quote]

    Practice jersey. That’s what it looks like.

    [quote comment=”145712″]The Washington Huskies color referred to is actually “Northwest Purple,” not “Northwestern.” But it’s described as navy blue, not purple at all, so it still doesn’t make much sense.[/quote]

    Northwestern was known as “The Purple” before they got a mascot, which was the Fighting Methodists, and now the Wildcats.

    [quote comment=”145727″]
    Great way of putting it. Baseball is even trying to do away with the bean ball and I’m not OK with that either. A guy spikes a player or thinks his ego is bigger than the game, hit em on the butt or thigh. Guy crowds the plate, hit em. I won’t comment on basketball as it’s not my sport.[/quote]

    But again, the beanball is retalitory. If the shortstop was allowed to get up and deck the guy that did it, do you think he would? I would bet dollars to dimes that he would. No one likes to get cleated.

    That’s what the hockey fight does. It makes the player who has done something stupid accountable for his actions. You want to check a superstar from behind or hit him knee-on-knee? You’re going to be accountable for that move on the next shift.

    [quote comment=”145724″][quote comment=”145707″]
    Kind of related… the Pack wore their home jerseys in a preseason game versus the Titans this year. I thought it was extremely odd to see the Pack in green jerseys away from Lambeau.
    link
    link[/quote]

    Well a number of teams use white home unis so I don’t think it’s surprising to see the pack wear green away from Lambeau, but to wear white at Lambeau is a whole other story.[/quote]
    But I don’t remember the Titans to be one of those teams who wear white at home. Am I wrong on this?

    Rochester, NY i assume? I grew up in Pittsford. Where abouts are you guys? Man that would have been awesome to have a sweet baseball league like that. We had a small rollerblade hockey league going in my neighborhood with custom uniforms made of undershirts and decorated using markers. Ahhh to be a kid again.

    Who would make a coin worth 1 cent that costs 2 cents to make? … Who would take that 2 cents worth of metal and use them in transactions where the only got 1 cent of worth out of them?

    They’re thinking about making steel pennies again.

    But I don’t remember the Titans to be one of those teams who wear white at home. Am I wrong on this?

    No, but some teams do that in the preseason.

    at my community park they have a morning activity program.

    20 yrs ago they started a morning baseball league (using nerf baseballs, remember those?)

    it was played on a basketball court which butted up against a tennis court that provided a huge fence in left field, in right it was like the polo grounds… a long way. into a creek.

    that was called pine tree park due to the large pine trees down by the creek.

    eventually there was a move to a new field across the creek called triple dip stadium due to the large hill from left to center with 3 natural “dips” in to them (a great sleigh riding hill by the way). the ball was then changed to the “rag balls”.

    there has always been an allstar game and our borough’s works department paints the logo and a hit it here spot.

    the league works just like mlb with a hr derby, etc.

    each year, gold gloves are awarded at each position, division, pennant and world series winners, as well as career home runs, all since 1986.

    a hall of fame was created after the first “group” of players graduated HS. really, you only play this until your freshman or sophomore year of HS, then you are HOF eligible after HS graduation.

    the one year i was tied for the HR lead with 34 going into the last day… i hit 4, the guy i was tied with hit 7, one every at bat… nothing worse than losing the HR battle after hitting 4 in a day…

    ahh, summer memories of youth.

    So I just checked the daily photo on NHL.com and they have a pic of the Thrashers and their all-star patch. The partch is in the normal right chest spot, but what gets me, is that becasue of the stick of the Thrasher logo raising above, to me it creates the same effect as the tip of the wing on the Red Wings logo. Since the tip forced the wings to move the C and A to the other side to avoide stitching over seams, I’d think the Thrashers would have had to relocate their all-star patch.

    Just another instance of the Red Wings theory coming up short.

    I don’t mind hitting in hockey, it belongs there. I don’t turn away from hockey fights, they belong in the game also. It’s that UFC shite that is disgusting, men in underwear creating human pretzels with their bodies and knocking the sense out of eachother. (I wish I was the winner of the L.A Kings jersey)! now I’m gonna have to stop payment on my mortgage this month to buy one, shitey.

    [quote comment=”145622″]psssh I don’t think those unis are lame at all. I’ll take the gnomes and tra-la-las font anytime.[/quote]

    yeah, the gnomes uni is better than the new Tampa Bay Rays design!

    I saw this on Game used universe regarding new Tampa Bay Rays jerseys..

    Logos:
    link

    Home Jersey: link

    Away Jersey: link

    Sorry if this was discussed or is “old news”

    [quote comment=”145676″][quote comment=”145636″]I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.[/quote]

    I have hated the burgundy pants since the team started wearing them decades ago. That color does not look good on pants in general, and the two thick stripes look awkward and unbalanced. I was loving the white-on-white look and wished that the team would have stuck with it.[/quote]

    i’m with you on the “unbalanced” pants stripes. i’ve hated that since day one. the stripes should be the same as the pattern on the helmet THREE STRIPES!!!! sleeve stripes on the jersey should also use the 3 stripe pattern.

    Here’s what I don’t get about that “Rays” uniform thing (aside from the obvious ‘why such a fugly logo?’ question): The socks/stirrups are part of the uniform – shouldn’t they have done up a drawing of a player showing some sock? I mean, I think they would probably be blue, but who knows?

    [quote comment=”145679″][quote comment=”145676″][quote comment=”145636″]I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.[/quote]

    I have hated the burgundy pants since the team started wearing them decades ago. That color does not look good on pants in general, and the two thick stripes look awkward and unbalanced. I was loving the white-on-white look and wished that the team would have stuck with it.[/quote]

    I love the burgundy pants/white top combo. It’s the burgundy top/white pants I dislike.[/quote]

    I thought they looked good on Mon night, but maybe it’s the particular color. My favorite was the burgundy with gold pants they wore in ’02. Wish they had kept ’em.

    link

    according to indians.com…

    “Wednesday, September 26 is a doubleheader vs. the Cleveland Indians, both games being played at Safeco Field. Game 1 starts at 4:05 p.m. PT with Game 2 starting approximately 20 minutes following the conclusion of Game 1.

    Game 1 is a make-up from the postponed April 9 game in Cleveland. The Indians will be listed as the home team and will bat second. For Game 2, the Mariners will be the home team.”

    i wonder how much of that 20 minutes will be used to change from whites to grays…

    this also means the indians have played home games in 3 different parks this year.

    [quote comment=”145623″]Big round of applause to the Field of Dreams gang. A bunch of friends goofing off and having fun together – no one is too cool in the room to appreciate that. [/quote]

    Hear hear!

    Brings back my wiffle-ball days. A backyard field with a foul pole complete w/ screen, a “real” green monster (huge bank of 12 ft. hedges), homemade t-shirt unis, and a foil-wrapped championship trophy.

    We had a 2-0n-2 league with playoffs & World series which continued on well past our teen years, and ended after a game we played the day after my brother’s bachelor party made us all sick (literally)!

    Great subject today! Many props go out to these guys.

    In regards to wiffle ball and wiffle ball fields, there is a bar outside of Madison WI called link that has a link and actually holds a league there.

    This place is FULL of sports memorabilia (I mean FULL!)and the entire wall-space of the men’s bathroom is covered in baseball cards. Right above one of the urinals is the infamous link.

    If you ever get the chance to go there, it’s pretty sweet!

    [quote comment=”145752″]according to indians.com…

    “Wednesday, September 26 is a doubleheader vs. the Cleveland Indians, both games being played at Safeco Field. Game 1 starts at 4:05 p.m. PT with Game 2 starting approximately 20 minutes following the conclusion of Game 1.

    Game 1 is a make-up from the postponed April 9 game in Cleveland. The Indians will be listed as the home team and will bat second. For Game 2, the Mariners will be the home team.”

    i wonder how much of that 20 minutes will be used to change from whites to grays…

    this also means the indians have played home games in 3 different parks this year.[/quote]

    Even though they are the home team, the Tribe isn’t planning to wear the home whites. They didn’t want the hassle of packing the home unis for the road trip, so they’ll be wearing road grays or the alt blue.

    [quote comment=”145667″]A uni-related question to team historian Lee Remmel from Packers.com:

    “Hi Lee, when was the last game, if ever, in which the Packers wore their road uniforms for a regular season game at Lambeau? Thanks! – Frank, Los Angeles

    Dear Frank, I haven’t been able to come up with a definitive answer to your question, but I have found some related information. Equipment Manager Gordon “Red” Batty said, “We haven’t worn white in “Lambeau” in my 14 years here. But Bryan Nehring (assistant equipment manager) has been here longer and may have other information from previous years).”

    And Nehring did have an answer, although he wasn’t able to identify the specific year involved. He recalled, “It was in the late ’80s or early ’90s, very hot, in the first three weeks of September, and we were playing Tampa Bay, who had Vinny Testaverde at quarterback. We decided to wear white because we wanted to see if the white jersey would be cooler than the green we normally would wear for a home game.”

    The jury apparently is still out on that specific question. “We haven’t done it since that time (worn white jerseys at home),” Nehring said, “so I would guess it wasn’t a big factor.” ”

    Anyone here remember this at all?[/quote]

    The game Nehring mentions likely was 1988, 1989 or 1991. I’ll try to dig up more info on this and report back.

    I’d rather see the Washington Redskins’ spear/arrow and feather helmet from the late ’60s. A simple, classic design, first and foremost. A tad more understated and culturally sensitive as well, for the many folks who care about that.

    Didn’t anyone tell the US Mint that $5s are supposed to be link
    After all, we have green $20s and blue $50s already…

    Re: Rays unis, I can’t tell if it is just an outline or — do they have blue piping around the placket?

    [quote comment=”145660″][quote comment=”145657″]I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it…that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    Of course they can solve the aesthetic problem problem AND save money at the same time by axing the $1 note at committing to the dollar coin.[/quote]
    When I was in Scotland a couple years ago, I got used to not having anything below a 5-pound note as far as “foldin’ money”. It didn’t take long to grow accustomed to the 1 and 2 pound coins.[/quote]

    We still have the link – it’s just quite rare, but they do crop up now and again. They’re great fun with English and Welsh retailers (The Bank of England hasn’t issued pound notes since 1988) since they are perfectly acceptable forms of currency.

    [quote comment=”145636″]I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.[/quote]

    They went 6-0 because the stuck to the run, and limited the mistakes, not because they went with white pants.

    That uni-combo was awful…The Redskins are white on burgundy…and occasionaly burgundy on white. They should NEVER be white on white or burgundy on burgundy (something that Spurrier mentioned he’d considered!)

    [quote comment=”145738″]Rochester, NY i assume? I grew up in Pittsford. Where abouts are you guys? Man that would have been awesome to have a sweet baseball league like that. We had a small rollerblade hockey league going in my neighborhood with custom uniforms made of undershirts and decorated using markers. Ahhh to be a kid again.[/quote]

    Pittsford? In Rochester? I knew a gal in Brighton!

    [quote comment=”145769″]I’d rather see the Washington Redskins’ spear/arrow and feather helmet from the late ’60s. A simple, classic design, first and foremost. A tad more understated and culturally sensitive as well, for the many folks who care about that.[/quote]

    IIRC Snyder already used that for the 70th anniversary. By going to a different throwback, you now have to buy yet another jersey. I’m sure the 80th anniversary will bring Sammy Baugh throwbacks or something.

    [quote comment=”145773″][quote comment=”145660″][quote comment=”145657″]I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it…that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    Of course they can solve the aesthetic problem problem AND save money at the same time by axing the $1 note at committing to the dollar coin.[/quote]
    When I was in Scotland a couple years ago, I got used to not having anything below a 5-pound note as far as “foldin’ money”. It didn’t take long to grow accustomed to the 1 and 2 pound coins.[/quote]

    We still have the link – it’s just quite rare, but they do crop up now and again. They’re great fun with English and Welsh retailers (The Bank of England hasn’t issued pound notes since 1988) since they are perfectly acceptable forms of currency.[/quote]

    Are they still issued by the Bank of Scotland? Fun. I know that in the UK, unlike the US, bills “expire” and are no longer legal tender (though they can be exchanged at the bank for new bills).

    [quote comment=”145782″][quote comment=”145769″]I’d rather see the Washington Redskins’ spear/arrow and feather helmet from the late ’60s. A simple, classic design, first and foremost. A tad more understated and culturally sensitive as well, for the many folks who care about that.[/quote]

    IIRC Snyder already used that for the 70th anniversary. By going to a different throwback, you now have to buy yet another jersey. I’m sure the 80th anniversary will bring Sammy Baugh throwbacks or something.[/quote]

    I’m surprised they haven’t used link at some point. You’d think that would be a natural, with customized number fonts being all the rage….

    Just saw the video of the Giants visit, great stuff Paul. I think you could do a whole days thread just on chinstraps and facemask choices. (Although I am a little biased because these are my FAVORITE items to pay attention to).

    [quote comment=”145749″]Here’s what I don’t get about that “Rays” uniform thing (aside from the obvious ‘why such a fugly logo?’ question): The socks/stirrups are part of the uniform – shouldn’t they have done up a drawing of a player showing some sock? I mean, I think they would probably be blue, but who knows?[/quote]
    I was thinking the same thing, but since no one wears socks/stirrups anymore, why show them?

    The Eagles are wearing their 75th anniversary throwbacks this weekend too. I was at a Philadelphia CHamber of Commerce event last night at Lincoln Financial Field and the Eagles have repainted their endzones blue and gold to go with the throwback unis.

    Hey I just watched the video on espn that accompanies Paul’s article, and I am wondering if anyone else caught the equipment manager cursing. It comes when they are talking about shoes and he says that Plaxico Burress “fucks around with the strap”. Watch the video and listen for this.

    [quote comment=”145731″]Take the hitting out of hockey and you’re left with girls hockey..Yawn.[/quote]

    Sports being modified to protect girls from themselves or something (along with ones in which they wear skirts – making it uni-related) is a HUGE pet peeve of mine.

    Todays main topic reminds of playing backyard football as a kid, when my dad would give our yard the checkerboard pattern. At the time, it was the coolest thing ever.

    I hope this doesn’t get caught up in the comments, but while reading this week’s Sports Illustrated, a story about Curtis Granderson said he had DONT THINK HAVE FUN under his cap. I was intrigued, so I checked google and link and some link (link another shot)

    [quote comment=”145797″]Hey I just watched the video on espn that accompanies Paul’s article, and I am wondering if anyone else caught the equipment manager cursing. It comes when they are talking about shoes and he says that Plaxico Burress “fucks around with the strap”. Watch the video and listen for this.[/quote]
    I think he says “futz,” but I could be mistaken…

    ~E~

    Paul, I would like to request that you do a video at least once a week, or at least an audio. Thanks.

    I like the Field of Dream gang, and I admire their dedication to the game, but I have to say, PINK?????? Really????? Let me reiterate: There IS no room in sports for pink.

    The Tampa Bay Rays, new unis are astoundingly non-memorable. I have seen them several times, and they disappear from my mind within seconds each time. There is no there, there.

    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.

    Oh, and I second the motion that the Field of Dream gangs should all have honary hand-made UniWatch cards.

    [quote comment=”145793″]Hearty congratulations to Paul for describing the new link as “a stupefyingly characterless monument to tedium.” What a fantastic line.[/quote]
    Vote in a link about how you feel about the new Rays unis!

    Hey I just watched the video on espn that accompanies Paul’s article, and I am wondering if anyone else caught the equipment manager cursing. It comes when they are talking about shoes and he says that Plaxico Burress “fucks around with the strap”. Watch the video and listen for this.

    I think he says “futz,” but I could be mistaken…

    Proper subject/verb agreement would make it, “futzes”, and I don’t think that’s what he said.

    [quote comment=”145812″]Hey I just watched the video on espn that accompanies Paul’s article, and I am wondering if anyone else caught the equipment manager cursing. It comes when they are talking about shoes and he says that Plaxico Burress “fucks around with the strap”. Watch the video and listen for this.

    I think he says “futz,” but I could be mistaken…

    Proper subject/verb agreement would make it, “futzes”, and I don’t think that’s what he said.[/quote]

    He said “futz”, as in “he’ll futz around with the strap.” I was listening to it through headphones and it was very clear.

    [quote comment=”145805″]

    Oh, and I second the motion that the Field of Dream gangs should all have honary hand-made UniWatch cards.[/quote]

    oh, so you want HAND MADE EHH?
    im sure the south park guys could drum up a real good one using construction paper, but in the mean time, will this suffice?
    link

    [quote comment=”145813″][quote comment=”145812″]Hey I just watched the video on espn that accompanies Paul’s article, and I am wondering if anyone else caught the equipment manager cursing. It comes when they are talking about shoes and he says that Plaxico Burress “fucks around with the strap”. Watch the video and listen for this.

    I think he says “futz,” but I could be mistaken…

    Proper subject/verb agreement would make it, “futzes”, and I don’t think that’s what he said.[/quote]

    He said “futz”, as in “he’ll futz around with the strap.” I was listening to it through headphones and it was very clear.[/quote]

    I was there — it’s “futz.” Trust me.

    [quote comment=”145806″][quote comment=”145793″]Hearty congratulations to Paul for describing the new link as “a stupefyingly characterless monument to tedium.” What a fantastic line.[/quote]
    Vote in a link about how you feel about the new Rays unis![/quote]

    They forgot the best option … to borrow a line from one of my favorite movies “Vote None of The Above”.

    Side note: Just mentioned on the Cubs broadcast: Jack Wilson of the Pirates SHOULD be the new patron saint of Uniwatch … but not quite. He has a new daughter; her name? Jersey … but … he mis-spelled it: Jersi.

    So close, yet so far.

    [quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…

    [quote comment=”145829″][quote comment=”145806″][quote comment=”145793″]Hearty congratulations to Paul for describing the new link as “a stupefyingly characterless monument to tedium.” What a fantastic line.[/quote]
    Vote in a link about how you feel about the new Rays unis![/quote]

    They forgot the best option … to borrow a line from one of my favorite movies “Vote None of The Above”.

    [/quote]

    Ah…Brewster’s Millions…

    [quote comment=”145748″][quote comment=”145676″][quote comment=”145636″]I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.[/quote]

    I have hated the burgundy pants since the team started wearing them decades ago. That color does not look good on pants in general, and the two thick stripes look awkward and unbalanced. I was loving the white-on-white look and wished that the team would have stuck with it.[/quote]

    i’m with you on the “unbalanced” pants stripes. i’ve hated that since day one. the stripes should be the same as the pattern on the helmet THREE STRIPES!!!! sleeve stripes on the jersey should also use the 3 stripe pattern.[/quote]

    I completely agree with all the above. As a life long Skins fan…the two thick sripes have always bothered me. They now seem so 80’s. When I wear my skins jersey I feel like I should revive my “joan jett” mullet.

    That old ranking list from a couple comments down is stupid and old, but one thing I noticed that I’d never seen before…count the Blazers as a team with link drop shadow.

    “Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go?”

    Absolutely….My personal preference are the “Lombardi uniforms,” which they are going to wear this weekend.

    Second choice, these beauties

    [quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.

    Tampa shouldn’t have changed…but since they did, they should have chosen link, complete with stirrups. They wore those(I know it was covered) at a game I went to last June in which I recieved one of link .

    [quote comment=”145848″]Tampa shouldn’t have changed…but since they did, they should have chosen link, complete with stirrups. They wore those(I know it was covered) at a game I went to last June in which I recieved one of link .[/quote]

    Just FWIW, Ebbets Field Flannels, who made the uniforms for that game, link. Good company – they deserve our support.

    And for their next throwbacks, I’d like to see the Devil Rays wear link.

    Just got read through all the comments, and was thrilled to read people defending the presence of fighting in hockey. Having played in college, and then in ECHL (AA Pro Hockey), I will tell you that it is an essential part of the game.

    When I played in college, you would not believe the amount of cheap stuff that goes on during the play because there is no way to police it (slashing, high sticks, spearing, cross-checks to the back, etc.). I was just as guilty as everyone else, because I knew that I wasn’t going to have to fight and defend myself.

    Long story short, I cut that crap out of my game when I moved on to the professional ranks. Players understand the unwritten rules of when/why to fight, and if they don’t, they soon find out.

    Paul, I respect your opinion, but anyone who ever played in both college and the pros will never push to remove fighting. It has it’s place in the game.

    Beantown,

    You bring up a great point I think I failed to bring up in any argument I’ve ever had. Anybody who has played at a level higher than high school defends fighting because they understand it. To the fan who may be a rabid fan, but played only though hgih school, they don’t fully understand all that stick work that does go on and doesn’t look all that harmfull. You said it best and I’ll leave it at that.

    To those who want fighting out of hockey, I’ll fight you over it, winner’s beliefs prevail…just kidding.

    [quote comment=”145845″][quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.[/quote]

    That’s such a typical devils fan thing to say. The fact is, they are incredibly boring to watch, and the majority of their fans are obnoxious. There’s a reason that so many people hate the Devils, and the trap is only half the reason.

    Paul,

    Re: Uni Watch video

    Were still photographs used to better explain the uniform details? Or are NFL game clips not allowed to be used on the ESPN website, based on their broadcast agreement? Ya know, like how Sportscenter can’t show video clips of Olympic highlights, or MTV Cribs shows stills of Jermaine Dye on his crib tour. Just curious.

    [quote comment=”145864″][quote comment=”145845″][quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.[/quote]

    That’s such a typical devils fan thing to say. The fact is, they are incredibly boring to watch, and the majority of their fans are obnoxious. There’s a reason that so many people hate the Devils, and the trap is only half the reason.[/quote]

    Obviously a (st)Rangers fan. Talk about obnoxious. The worst fans in the NHL, with there ugly sweaters and their Potvan sucks chants. At least we don’t have to deal with them past March.

    OK, this is a shocking development, but Idaho State University is hosting a soccer tournament, and the first game has the U.S. Air Force Academy, and they have an American Flag patch on the right sleeve, but the patch is backwards. And when I mean backwards, I mean the patch has the field on the left….but the field should be on the right, showing the motion of the flag. I asked one of the administrators about it, and he couldn’t believe that no one caught it. I actually have a photographer coming over to get a shot of their sleeve, and I’ll get it to Paul for Monday, but I’m just floored that the U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY made this mistake.

    Frank

    [quote comment=”145733″]
    Northwestern was known as “The Purple” before they got a mascot, which was the Fighting Methodists, and now the Wildcats.[/quote]

    1) Fighting Methodists? How great is that? Pity they ever changed.

    2) It drives me crazy that they don’t have Northwestern stripes on their football unis.

    [quote comment=”145869″]OK, this is a shocking development, but Idaho State University is hosting a soccer tournament, and the first game has the U.S. Air Force Academy, and they have an American Flag patch on the right sleeve, but the patch is backwards. And when I mean backwards, I mean the patch has the field on the left….but the field should be on the right, showing the motion of the flag. I asked one of the administrators about it, and he couldn’t believe that no one caught it. I actually have a photographer coming over to get a shot of their sleeve, and I’ll get it to Paul for Monday, but I’m just floored that the U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY made this mistake.

    Frank[/quote]

    That’s not a mistake.

    It’s actually proper military flag placement.

    More info link:

    “The full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is worn so that the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward.

    The rule dates back to the Army’s early history, when both mounted cavalry and infantry units would designate a standard bearer, who carried the Colors into battle. As he charged, his forward momentum caused the flag to stream back. Since the Stars and Stripes are mounted with the canton closest to the pole, that section stayed to the right, while the stripes flew to the left.”

    Oops, sorry.

    As soon as I posted that, I realized that by “wrong” you actually did mean the “right” way, which is actually “wrong”.

    Sorry.

    Prime time sports on the Fan radio network devoted about 15 minutes to the new nhl jerseys, very interesting discussion. Thought i might Share it

    [quote comment=”145845″][quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.[/quote]

    They play the same boring style of trap hockey. The trap used by Lemaire is the reason a lot of the new rules were instituted.

    [quote comment=”145892″][quote comment=”145845″][quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.[/quote]

    They play the same boring style of trap hockey. The trap used by Lemaire is the reason a lot of the new rules were instituted.[/quote]

    I am well aware of their style of play and I don’t find it boring at all.

    And it’s been YEARS since Lemaire left and their style has evovled a great deal in that time.

    [quote comment=”145896″]
    I am well aware of their style of play and I don’t find it boring at all.

    And it’s been YEARS since Lemaire left and their style has evovled a great deal in that time.[/quote]

    I don’t think you are aware. You’ve let the winning cloud your judgment.

    As for evolved, are you trying to convince me that Larry Robinson, Robbie Ftorek, Pat Burns, Claude Julien and Lou Lamiorello didn’t use the trap?

    Here’s evolution. The highest point total any Devil has attained by one player in one season since Jacques Lemaire took over the reins in 1993-94 in New Jersey is 96 in 2000-01 when Larry Robinson coached. That player was Patrik Elias.

    In fact, since the 93-94 season, they’ve had their leading scorer record a 90-point campaign once; an 80-point campaign twice; a 70-point campaign three time (99-00 Championship season); a 60-point season five times; and a 50-point season once (02-03 Championship season). And I didn’t even include the strike-shortened 1995 season in there. The worst part of it all is that they’ve never finished below .500 once in that same time, and only have missed the playoffs once.

    Defensive hockey? There’s no doubt.

    [quote comment=”145856″]Just got read through all the comments, and was thrilled to read people defending the presence of fighting in hockey. Having played in college, and then in ECHL (AA Pro Hockey), I will tell you that it is an essential part of the game.

    When I played in college, you would not believe the amount of cheap stuff that goes on during the play because there is no way to police it (slashing, high sticks, spearing, cross-checks to the back, etc.). I was just as guilty as everyone else, because I knew that I wasn’t going to have to fight and defend myself.

    Long story short, I cut that crap out of my game when I moved on to the professional ranks. Players understand the unwritten rules of when/why to fight, and if they don’t, they soon find out.

    Paul, I respect your opinion, but anyone who ever played in both college and the pros will never push to remove fighting. It has it’s place in the game.[/quote]

    And I respect the opinion of anyone who’s played the game. Here’s a question: What about international amateur hockey, like in the Olympics? No fighting, right? Is there a higher level of cheap shots?

    I’m not trying to be a smart-ass here — I’m trying to learn what’s what.

    [quote comment=”145868″]Paul,

    Re: Uni Watch video

    Were still photographs used to better explain the uniform details? Or are NFL game clips not allowed to be used on the ESPN website, based on their broadcast agreement? Ya know, like how Sportscenter can’t show video clips of Olympic highlights, or MTV Cribs shows stills of Jermaine Dye on his crib tour. Just curious.[/quote]

    I had nothing to do with the editing — no idea about the process or terms through which those still shots ended up in the video.

    [quote comment=”145763″][quote comment=”145667″]A uni-related question to team historian Lee Remmel from Packers.com:

    “Hi Lee, when was the last game, if ever, in which the Packers wore their road uniforms for a regular season game at Lambeau? Thanks! – Frank, Los Angeles

    Dear Frank, I haven’t been able to come up with a definitive answer to your question, but I have found some related information. Equipment Manager Gordon “Red” Batty said, “We haven’t worn white in “Lambeau” in my 14 years here. But Bryan Nehring (assistant equipment manager) has been here longer and may have other information from previous years).”

    And Nehring did have an answer, although he wasn’t able to identify the specific year involved. He recalled, “It was in the late ’80s or early ’90s, very hot, in the first three weeks of September, and we were playing Tampa Bay, who had Vinny Testaverde at quarterback. We decided to wear white because we wanted to see if the white jersey would be cooler than the green we normally would wear for a home game.”

    The jury apparently is still out on that specific question. “We haven’t done it since that time (worn white jerseys at home),” Nehring said, “so I would guess it wasn’t a big factor.” ”

    Anyone here remember this at all?[/quote]

    The game Nehring mentions likely was 1988, 1989 or 1991. I’ll try to dig up more info on this and report back.[/quote]

    The Packers wore their road whites at Lambeau Field on Sept. 10, 1989, for the regular-season opener against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    According to the Green Bay Press-Gazette, turns out it had nothing to do with hot weather. (It was only 66 at kickoff.)

    Rather, it apparently had more to do with the Packers trying to take advantage of Vinny Testaverde’s colorblindness, having him throw into a sea of indistinguishable light-colored jerseys, between the Packers’ white and the Bucs’ light orange.

    It didn’t work. The Bucs won 23-21.

    Funny excerpt from Paul’s ESPN column today:

    “Now that they’re publicly circulating [Rays uniforms], however, Uni Watch is free to weigh in with some highly detailed analyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.”

    Pardon if it’s already been posted, but here’s a forum with the Shea Stadium link the Mets will be wearing next year.

    Unconfirmed, I’d imagine.

    It looks pretty good with the orange and blue, interlocking old / new exterior, and subtle skyline in the background.

    Sniff, sniff.

    I’m really going to miss the place…

    [quote comment=”145896″][quote comment=”145892″][quote comment=”145845″][quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.[/quote]

    They play the same boring style of trap hockey. The trap used by Lemaire is the reason a lot of the new rules were instituted.[/quote]

    I am well aware of their style of play and I don’t find it boring at all.

    And it’s been YEARS since Lemaire left and their style has evovled a great deal in that time.[/quote]

    Evolved into what? I’ll give you that the Devils system is effective, but between the neutral zone trap and the left wing lock, watching the Devils is like watching Italian soccer. Boooooring!

    [quote comment=”145909″]
    And I respect the opinion of anyone who’s played the game. Here’s a question: What about international amateur hockey, like in the Olympics? No fighting, right? Is there a higher level of cheap shots?

    I’m not trying to be a smart-ass here — I’m trying to learn what’s what.[/quote]

    The Olympics isn’t a business like the NHL is, Paul. The Olympic spirit is what is pushed whereas the NHL has a win-at-all-costs mentality. The best and most-skilled players are asked to be at the Olympics rather than the muckers and grinders. Teams like Canada, the USA, Russia, and the Czechs often have first-line NHLers playing on their fourth-lines. The skill level is much higher in the Olympics, so there are rarely ever any injuries or cheap shots.

    The reason fighting is banned is because the Olympics pushes the idea of fair play internationally. The Olympics is about pushing the spirit and comraderie of the Games, whereas the NHL does not. It is about winning now, and providing entertainment. That’s the major difference.

    [quote comment=”145783″][quote comment=”145773″][quote comment=”145660″][quote comment=”145657″]I agree that the $1 looks really out of place now, but they have no plans to do anything about it…that’s fine, because I’d rather the government not spend millions of dollars fixing something that doesn’t need fixing.

    Of course they can solve the aesthetic problem problem AND save money at the same time by axing the $1 note at committing to the dollar coin.[/quote]
    When I was in Scotland a couple years ago, I got used to not having anything below a 5-pound note as far as “foldin’ money”. It didn’t take long to grow accustomed to the 1 and 2 pound coins.[/quote]

    We still have the link – it’s just quite rare, but they do crop up now and again. They’re great fun with English and Welsh retailers (The Bank of England hasn’t issued pound notes since 1988) since they are perfectly acceptable forms of currency.[/quote]

    Are they still issued by the Bank of Scotland? Fun. I know that in the UK, unlike the US, bills “expire” and are no longer legal tender (though they can be exchanged at the bank for new bills).[/quote]

    It’s only the Royal Bank that issue them now, and there’s no such thing as legal tender in Scotland :*)

    I’m watching the Braves – Brewers game right now and I just noticed something very odd. The Braves broiught in Tyler Yates to pitch. Yates wears #33. Yates, like the other Braves, are wearing a memorial patch for Johnny Sain and Lew Burdette. The memorial patch has the number 33. Can anybody come up with another example of a player wearing a memorial patch with his own number on it?

    [quote comment=”145867″][quote comment=”145864″][quote comment=”145845″][quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.[/quote]

    That’s such a typical devils fan thing to say. The fact is, they are incredibly boring to watch, and the majority of their fans are obnoxious. There’s a reason that so many people hate the Devils, and the trap is only half the reason.[/quote]

    Obviously a (st)Rangers fan. Talk about obnoxious. The worst fans in the NHL, with there ugly sweaters and their Potvan sucks chants. At least we don’t have to deal with them past March.[/quote]

    at least the rangers didt have to relocate 3 times like the devils did. kansas city scouts Colorado rockies

    [quote comment=”145964″]Pardon if it’s already been posted, but here’s a forum with the Shea Stadium link the Mets will be wearing next year.

    Unconfirmed, I’d imagine.

    It looks pretty good with the orange and blue, interlocking old / new exterior, and subtle skyline in the background.

    Sniff, sniff.

    I’m really going to miss the place…[/quote]

    Come on Shea is such a dump, how r u gonna miss it?

    [quote comment=”145914″][quote comment=”145763″][quote comment=”145667″]A uni-related question to team historian Lee Remmel from Packers.com:

    “Hi Lee, when was the last game, if ever, in which the Packers wore their road uniforms for a regular season game at Lambeau? Thanks! – Frank, Los Angeles

    Dear Frank, I haven’t been able to come up with a definitive answer to your question, but I have found some related information. Equipment Manager Gordon “Red” Batty said, “We haven’t worn white in “Lambeau” in my 14 years here. But Bryan Nehring (assistant equipment manager) has been here longer and may have other information from previous years).”

    And Nehring did have an answer, although he wasn’t able to identify the specific year involved. He recalled, “It was in the late ’80s or early ’90s, very hot, in the first three weeks of September, and we were playing Tampa Bay, who had Vinny Testaverde at quarterback. We decided to wear white because we wanted to see if the white jersey would be cooler than the green we normally would wear for a home game.”

    The jury apparently is still out on that specific question. “We haven’t done it since that time (worn white jerseys at home),” Nehring said, “so I would guess it wasn’t a big factor.” ”

    Anyone here remember this at all?[/quote]

    The game Nehring mentions likely was 1988, 1989 or 1991. I’ll try to dig up more info on this and report back.[/quote]

    The Packers wore their road whites at Lambeau Field on Sept. 10, 1989, for the regular-season opener against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    According to the Green Bay Press-Gazette, turns out it had nothing to do with hot weather. (It was only 66 at kickoff.)

    Rather, it apparently had more to do with the Packers trying to take advantage of Vinny Testaverde’s colorblindness, having him throw into a sea of indistinguishable light-colored jerseys, between the Packers’ white and the Bucs’ light orange.

    It didn’t work. The Bucs won 23-21.[/quote]

    I recall they wore the white jerseys for their next home game against the Saints.

    [quote comment=”145867″][quote comment=”145864″][quote comment=”145845″][quote comment=”145833″][quote comment=”145805″]
    Count me on the no-fighting side in hockey, no hard fouls in basketball, and no beanballs in baseball. I am more for the, ‘eject someone who cleats, comes in low, etc.’ I have enough problems with sports without there being added violence to them.
    [/quote]

    Minna, are you telling me that the Wild don’t need a guy like Derek Boogaard? If they didn’t have the Boogeyman on the ice, the Wild would as boring as the New Jersey Devils.

    If only there was a way for Boogaard to stop Gaborik from hurting himself…[/quote]

    3 Cups is boring? hmmmmmm. I’d rather watch the Devils in their AWESOME sweaters win than the Wild or the Icelanders lose.[/quote]

    That’s such a typical devils fan thing to say. The fact is, they are incredibly boring to watch, and the majority of their fans are obnoxious. There’s a reason that so many people hate the Devils, and the trap is only half the reason.[/quote]

    Obviously a (st)Rangers fan. Talk about obnoxious. The worst fans in the NHL, with there ugly sweaters and their Potvan sucks chants. At least we don’t have to deal with them past March.[/quote]
    Worst fans my buttcheeks. You wanna talk worst fans, look at your own team. What kind of team has walk-up tickets available to Game 7 of the 2003 Finals?. What kind of team has 8,000 fans a game because their “fans” can’t make a drive up the turnpike to see them? Keep your comments to yourself. Wait til Marty retires, then none of us will hear a peep out of you Devil fans.
    Ugly sweaters? Just shows how clueless you really are.

    [quote comment=”145988″][quote comment=”145964″]Pardon if it’s already been posted, but here’s a forum with the Shea Stadium link the Mets will be wearing next year.

    Unconfirmed, I’d imagine.

    It looks pretty good with the orange and blue, interlocking old / new exterior, and subtle skyline in the background.

    Sniff, sniff.

    I’m really going to miss the place…[/quote]

    Come on Shea is such a dump, how r u gonna miss it?[/quote]

    Because it is the home of the New York Mets and has been since before I was born.

    Skyboxes, wide concourses, and outfields with funny angles do not make a ballpark great. I don’t go to baseball games to be pampered, I go to watch a baseball game.

    Shea Stadium is one of the most underrated stadiums in history and that is a damn shame. It is the oldest ballpark in New York (the Yankee Stadium that stands today is a product of the 70’s), has better sightlines than Fenway (and you won’t need a chiropractor after the game), has more character than anything on the West Coast, and hosted the most famous rock n’ roll concert in history.

    City Field (as in NYC, not some bank) will be a great place to watch a baseball game, but you won’t be able to daydream between innings to imagine the Fab Four, Agee’s catch, the 1969 Field Invasion, Broadway Joe, Lenny’s Leap, Game Six, the Grand Single, or Endy’s Catch.

    I’m going to miss Shea Stadium.

    … that’s some effin’ patch, eh?

    Two nice uni-related items in a story on Iowa State football in today’s Waterloo (Iowa) Courier:

    link

    … Before the 2007 season began, the Cyclones’ head coach chose to remove the names from the back of the uniforms. That means of identifying players had been there throughout the Dan McCarney era at ISU….

    … During the uniform discussion, a reporter asked Chizik if ISU’s players might continue to wear the throwback jerseys from the 1977 team that appeared in the Peach Bowl. The coach deferred to his boss, director of athletics Jamie Pollard.

    “That’s way out of my department,” said Chizik….

    [quote comment=”145997″][quote comment=”145988″][quote comment=”145964″]Pardon if it’s already been posted, but here’s a forum with the Shea Stadium link the Mets will be wearing next year.

    Unconfirmed, I’d imagine.

    It looks pretty good with the orange and blue, interlocking old / new exterior, and subtle skyline in the background.

    Sniff, sniff.

    I’m really going to miss the place…[/quote]

    Come on Shea is such a dump, how r u gonna miss it?[/quote]

    Because it is the home of the New York Mets and has been since before I was born.

    Skyboxes, wide concourses, and outfields with funny angles do not make a ballpark great. I don’t go to baseball games to be pampered, I go to watch a baseball game.

    Shea Stadium is one of the most underrated stadiums in history and that is a damn shame. It is the oldest ballpark in New York (the Yankee Stadium that stands today is a product of the 70’s), has better sightlines than Fenway (and you won’t need a chiropractor after the game), has more character than anything on the West Coast, and hosted the most famous rock n’ roll concert in history.

    City Field (as in NYC, not some bank) will be a great place to watch a baseball game, but you won’t be able to daydream between innings to imagine the Fab Four, Agee’s catch, the 1969 Field Invasion, Broadway Joe, Lenny’s Leap, Game Six, the Grand Single, or Endy’s Catch.

    I’m going to miss Shea Stadium.

    … that’s some effin’ patch, eh?[/quote]

    But you make new memories in new buildings.

    Field of Dreams:

    I think this is the best Uni Watch postI have seen in a long time, for two reasons.

    (1) Watching MLB is great, becuase you get to see some amazing athletes. I’m all for it. However, this is a *job* for these people. As such there is an acute element of *passion* missing from the game. The only place you find this passion on a substantive level is in little league, high school, college, local leagues, and things like the Field of Dreams post. It is *here* that the real heart of baseball (and sport) lives. Given the chance of watching a game of something like MLB or Field of Dreams, I’d take latter any day. Becuase it is only there that you get to see real heart and soul…and that is what it is all about.

    (2) This one is obvious…the local crowd is rocking the proper stirrups and knee highs. Good for them. This proves the axium “Wear stirrups locally, but think globally.”

    [quote comment=”145780″][quote comment=”145738″]Rochester, NY i assume? I grew up in Pittsford. Where abouts are you guys? Man that would have been awesome to have a sweet baseball league like that. We had a small rollerblade hockey league going in my neighborhood with custom uniforms made of undershirts and decorated using markers. Ahhh to be a kid again.[/quote]

    Pittsford? In Rochester? I knew a gal in Brighton![/quote]

    umm i know poughkeepsie and new paltz… beat that.

    Paul, given your intense aversion to purple, how did it feel to traipse around the Giants’ purple carpet in the locker room? I enjoyed the video aside from the jarring vision of purple and the dorky cards in the transitions — seriously, a spinning headline accompanied by a whirring noise? Did ESPN.com farm out the editing to the junior high A/V Club?

    Am I the only one that looks at the Rays new uni’s, and automatically assumes it’s a uni for a Mariner’s minor league affiliate?

    [quote comment=”146019″][quote comment=”145997″][quote comment=”145988″][quote comment=”145964″]Pardon if it’s already been posted, but here’s a forum with the Shea Stadium link the Mets will be wearing next year.

    Unconfirmed, I’d imagine.

    It looks pretty good with the orange and blue, interlocking old / new exterior, and subtle skyline in the background.

    Sniff, sniff.

    I’m really going to miss the place…[/quote]

    Come on Shea is such a dump, how r u gonna miss it?[/quote]

    Because it is the home of the New York Mets and has been since before I was born.

    Skyboxes, wide concourses, and outfields with funny angles do not make a ballpark great. I don’t go to baseball games to be pampered, I go to watch a baseball game.

    Shea Stadium is one of the most underrated stadiums in history and that is a damn shame. It is the oldest ballpark in New York (the Yankee Stadium that stands today is a product of the 70’s), has better sightlines than Fenway (and you won’t need a chiropractor after the game), has more character than anything on the West Coast, and hosted the most famous rock n’ roll concert in history.

    City Field (as in NYC, not some bank) will be a great place to watch a baseball game, but you won’t be able to daydream between innings to imagine the Fab Four, Agee’s catch, the 1969 Field Invasion, Broadway Joe, Lenny’s Leap, Game Six, the Grand Single, or Endy’s Catch.

    I’m going to miss Shea Stadium.

    … that’s some effin’ patch, eh?[/quote]

    But you make new memories in new buildings.[/quote]

    That doesn’t mean you don’t miss the old ones.

    The inspiration of the new park is evidence of that.

    RE: The Huskies uniform color:

    The team wore Navy because the red dye necessary to make purple was very expensive. It’s the same reason the purple is often associated with royalty.

    [quote comment=”145636″]I like the Redskins wearing throwbacks. Does anyone else think their burgundy pants need to go? The article said the team went 6-0 when it went white on white in 2005. I think it was because they ditched the burgundy pants.[/quote]

    I’m pretty far from a skins fan, but let’s not forget they won 3 Super Bowls in those burgundy pants.

    [quote comment=”145771″]Didn’t anyone tell the US Mint that $5s are supposed to be link
    After all, we have green $20s and blue $50s already…[/quote]
    Not to mention yellowish $10s.

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