Consistently Inconsistent

When I was at the Flyers/Caps rookie scrimmage last week, they had AHL refs doing the game. Perhaps that might explain the airband situation.

Here is a link to some color photos & a neat history of the Chicago College All-Star Game:

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So I’m guessing the Rays didn’t go with the powder blue road unis. Man I was really hoping for that. Please tell me they ditched the vests…

I hope the NHL referees are going to continue to wear the orange stripe instead of the silver one. The orange one is far more noticeable (at least to my eye).

Regarding the Dayton throwback jerseys in the sports ticker. I actually know a little about this, being a UD alum and having run cross country there. The story goes that the official school colors were red and and light blue, called Marianist blue (the Marianist are the religious order who founded the school). Supposedly, the school switched to navy blue during the eighties because the basketball court looked funny on TV when decorated light blue.
All of this came to my attention in 2003 when I was running cross country at UD. Our coach thought it would be a good idea to honor the school’s tradition by ordering Marianist blue jerseys. They were amazing looking. Unfortunately, the athletic department decided they were not officially school colors, and made us get new ones the following season. In fact, they were so against the light blue jerseys, they gave them to us at the end of the year, something they had never done before. So, it’s kind of ironic that they’re selling the throwback football jerseys for $150 on the website, but they were so against the throwback CC jerseys, they gave them away just to get rid of them.

[quote comment=”143964″]I agree… I think the new Sharks sweaters are sweet, incorporating their new logo with their original look (striping below the crest and sleeve numbers. And I love the contrasting shoulders![/quote]

One big problem though. The continued use by many teams of the front number. Pointless clutter. Plus I won’t be happy with any jersey until the rounded hemline is eliminated.

[quote comment=”143963″]So I’m guessing the Rays didn’t go with the powder blue road unis. Man I was really hoping for that. Please tell me they ditched the vests…[/quote]

Interesting. The vests were the only thing that I liked about the Rays’ current uniforms, but then again, I think that every team wearing vests looks good in them (Rockies excepted, but that goes without saying, right?).

Don’t know if anyone posted this yesterday about Julio Lugo’s pine tar stain.

I gather it’s from following through on his swing. If I stand up in my office and swing a bat (I actually have one) the label of the bat, where a lot of players “store” pine tar, hits me in the shoulder, right about where Lugo’s pine tar stain is.

I think navy, yellow and light blue are great new colors for the D-Rays. Hopefully having a new color scheme will help them gain eligibility to contend in the American League. It’s been so unfair of Major League Baseball to keep them from being a well run team since their inception.

The new color scheme sounds like it’s very similar to link. Nothing special with those uniforms, per se, but I love the colors.

They are changing their name to the Tampa Bay Rays as of next season.

They are also changing their colors.

Originally they had that ultra-bizarro rainbow lettering.

Then they switched to the current green/black/grey ensemble. Watching the D-Rays on tv was like watching an old black and white set.

Their new colors will be navy, yellow, and light blue.

I think they dropped the ball.

They should have come up with either a fierce looking sting ray or ditched the Rays thing altogether.

Start fresh.

The Devil Rays are synonymous with sucking.

(Only in the south. They actually had been under pressure to drop the ‘Devil’ part of their name for years)

They could have been the Tampa Tiger-Sharks (Tampa T-Sharks)

Tampa Sting or Stingers

Tampa Bay Sunshine (they could have had a happy face as a primary logo)

Tampa Bay Nippon Ham Fighters

Tampa Bay Rattlers or Racers after snakes from the region

Tampa Cranks (after all the old people in Florida)

Tampa Explos (after the early explorers of Florida)

Or some other names.

Devil Rays or Rays still equals loser to me.

Maybe they could be the Tampa Yankees after the minor league team that was there.
Or the Jr. Yankees.

They could buy into that whole redneck thing and be the Tampa Bay Rebels or TB Confederates.

Play up the whole Yankee hate thing down there.

Don’t know how minority players would dig it, but the free publicity would be out of sight.

How could anyone who roots for the Redskins (OMG how bad is that name by today’s standards), Braves, Indians, Twins, etc honestly protest the Rebels or Confederates?

Merchandise would fly off the shelves.

I would even take the job (at a huge salary) of presenting the new name and colors to the public.

Rebel flags everywhere.
Mascot who is a big cute Confederate soldier.
Dixie would be played in the 7th inning.

Make the players wear Confederate Army caps as a ‘throwback’ day.

I would be the point man on this.

Being highly paid because I knew the job would last 6-18 months before the pressure would be so hiogh they’d can me (blame me) and then they could rechristen themselves some bland vanilla name.

They would cash in on both selling the Rebel merchandise to rednecks and then the new name after they drop the Rebel theme.

Of course you know how the relief pitcher would enter the game?

In the General Lee.

They could not use the Tampa TigerSharks name without permission from my fanasy football team.

Is there a date yet for the Rays’ unveiling? You’ve piqued my curiousity (and raised fear)about how they’re going to use the yellow.

I prefer the white jersey/burgundy pant combo b/c they break out those sweet socks.

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[quote comment=”143989″][quote comment=”143986″]Is there a date yet for the Rays’ unveiling?[/quote]

Nov. 8th.[/quote]
My birthday! How thoughtful.

~E~

Paul, am I sensing some sarcasm regarding the new Sharks jersey? I think that’s one the worst jerseys (colors/logo/cut) in pro sports history. Just making sure there….

“How could anyone who roots for the Redskins (OMG how bad is that name by today’s standards), Braves, Indians, Twins, etc honestly protest the Rebels or Confederates?”

Pretty easy, actually. When asked my favourite NFL team, I say, “Washington” or sometimes “The Washingtons” to make a point that while players endeared me to the team in my youth, I’m no fan of the derogatory moniker. If the Washingtons were to change thier nickname, I’d be a very happy person.

On another note, I think the captain and alternate letters over seams looks really sloppy. Poor planning. And yes, I thought the same when link previously. In fact, it looked worse on Preds uniforms, because oflink

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Living in Florida, I can assure you that you would have Nooooooooo problem getting fans to display the Rebel flag. I see tons of them everyday in yards, on cars, truck windows etc…sigh…

I will step out on the ledge with Josh D. and say that I hate the new Sharks’ unis. Why? Because I feel about teal/aquamarine/powder blue as Paul does about purple. There is no room in sports for light blue. Actually, there is no room in sports for pastels at all. Plus, the shark needs to be scarier-looking.

As for Morten Anderson, what, is he cryogenetic? They put him on ice when he’s not in the league and thaw him when a reliable kicker is needed? Good for you, Mort, keep rocking the facemask old-school.

Tampa Rays, I like it. Much easier to say than Tampa Bay Rays.

I think the reason for the Red Wings moving the ‘C’ and ‘A’ is not just because of the seam, but also with the way the main logo curves up on the left-hand side of the shirt – it’s higher than it used to be. That’s not an issue with the Flyers.

It does raise the question, though – since they can clearly stitch a Captain’s letter over the seam, why does the Rangers’ logo need to be so compressed?

Wait, I just saw the Twins being thrown in with the Indians, Braves, etc. How did the Twins get lumped in with that group? Twins are twins! We have the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St. Paul), which is how we got the Twins. There is nothing derogatory about that.

Wait.

How is ‘Twins’ an offensive nickname?

I think the Sharks jersey looks like one of those jerseys you see in video games such as NHL 08 or the one ESPN produced.

It looks like the made up uniforms and logos from those games.

I haven’t dug their colors since they changed from their original teal, black, and silver.

Shark is cool but looks a little cartoonish.

As for the Redskins I have no problem with it. But I’m not Native American.

I don’t have a problem with Fightin’ Irish and to my knowledge there are no Italian themed names.

I was there to witness the horror of St. Johns dropping the name Redmen.

Then the horror of the proposed name changes

the Red
the Red Wizards
the Beast
the Red Knights
the Red Lobsters
etc

here’s the kick- the Redmen were named such because there first teams wore red jerseys.

Later on they adopted the Native American lampooning character.

It will always be Redmen to me.

My $0.02:

The flyers jersey looks pretty bad on Briere. The arm looks all wrong or something. And the alternate captaincy over the seam looks incredibly stupid.

I agree with whoever said that teh Panthers’ jersey looks too crowded with the A.

[quote comment=”143967″]Regarding the Dayton throwback jerseys in the sports ticker. I actually know a little about this, being a UD alum and having run cross country there. The story goes that the official school colors were red and and light blue, called Marianist blue (the Marianist are the religious order who founded the school). Supposedly, the school switched to navy blue during the eighties because the basketball court looked funny on TV when decorated light blue.
All of this came to my attention in 2003 when I was running cross country at UD. Our coach thought it would be a good idea to honor the school’s tradition by ordering Marianist blue jerseys. They were amazing looking. Unfortunately, the athletic department decided they were not officially school colors, and made us get new ones the following season. In fact, they were so against the light blue jerseys, they gave them to us at the end of the year, something they had never done before. So, it’s kind of ironic that they’re selling the throwback football jerseys for $150 on the website, but they were so against the throwback CC jerseys, they gave them away just to get rid of them.[/quote]
I grew up in Dayton and used to have this UD basketball warm-up shirt. Picture Houston Astros Tequila Sunrise unis in shades of light to navy blue.
I loved the ‘Marianist Blue’ Dayton Football Jerseys. I may have to pick one up!

[quote comment=”143975″][quote comment=”143963″]So I’m guessing the Rays didn’t go with the powder blue road unis. Man I was really hoping for that. Please tell me they ditched the vests…[/quote]

Interesting. The vests were the only thing that I liked about the Rays’ current uniforms, but then again, I think that every team wearing vests looks good in them (Rockies excepted, but that goes without saying, right?).[/quote]

If you’re talking about the Rockies’ black vests, I completely agree. But their white pinstriped ones look fine, IMO:

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Speaking of placement of captain C’s and assistant A’s, I thought the Canucks could have come up with a link of denoting these link and help avoid the link.

tampa bay rays…
it still sounds like the “bay ray” is a type of ray, and it is indigenous to tampa.

Yup. The same deal as the Nippon Ham Fighters, where the team is the Fighters, sponsored by Nippon Ham, but instead sounds like a bit from Belushi’s Samurai Delicatessen.

The Canucks should have made the C in VanCouver

I like East Bay Ray from the Dead Kennedys

[quote comment=”144017″][quote comment=”143975″][quote comment=”143963″]So I’m guessing the Rays didn’t go with the powder blue road unis. Man I was really hoping for that. Please tell me they ditched the vests…[/quote]

Interesting. The vests were the only thing that I liked about the Rays’ current uniforms, but then again, I think that every team wearing vests looks good in them (Rockies excepted, but that goes without saying, right?).[/quote]

If you’re talking about the Rockies’ black vests, I completely agree. But their white pinstriped ones look fine, IMO:

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You are correct, sir, I was referencing the black vests. The pinstriped version is a-ok.

The Rams had two different “2”s with their old uniforms. Checkout this…

Compare the two on #25’s back, and the 2 on Faulk’s sleeve.

[quote comment=”144014″][quote comment=”144005″]Wait, I just saw the Twins being thrown in with the Indians, Braves, etc. How did the Twins get lumped in with that group? Twins are twins! We have the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St. Paul), which is how we got the Twins. There is nothing derogatory about that.[/quote]
(Sarcasim) Come on Minna – do you know how difficult it is to be labeled a Twin and have somebody look just like you, or at least share the same DNA? I’d much rather be called a Redskin or Brave, or even worse a Viking than be called a Twin. Seriously, would you liked to be dressed like sombody else each and every day of your todler life? With your luck, if you had a twin they’d love the color pink too. Oh the horror.(Sarcasim)[/quote]

Damn, Joe D., you hit the nail on the head. I mean, having people mix you up all the time and having to share the same birthday…That IS worse than the other names. Not only would my twin like pink, she would hate sports and only go to the gym to look cute in her thong leotard. Thank you for opening my eyes, Joe D.; I will now root for the St. Paul Saints instead. Except, I’m agnostic, so that would be against my (non) religion….

As for the Sharks unis, I love ‘em. Take the numbers off the front

I also agree with dilbert719 on the front numbers…I hate those. They look stupid on the shoulder and even worse on the front of the Stars home unis.

The Joe Namath Jets, at one point, had a varsity 2 on the green jerseys (white number set) and the more diagonal, for a lack of a better tern, 2 digit with the green numbers on the white jerseys.

[quote comment=”143978″]Don’t know if anyone posted this yesterday about Julio Lugo’s pine tar stain.

I gather it’s from following through on his swing. If I stand up in my office and swing a bat (I actually have one) the label of the bat, where a lot of players “store” pine tar, hits me in the shoulder, right about where Lugo’s pine tar stain is.[/quote]

It just dawned on me.

If I were pitching on Lugo’s team and needed some extra movement on the ball, I would call a mound conference and pat him on the shoulder for “good luck.”

Was watching the Big Ten network and they were showing a Purdue v. Notre Dame game from ’99. One of the players on Notre Dame had a gold chin strap. It looked pretty cool. Sadly, I don’t have a photo.

[quote comment=”144042″]There may be prototypes or model NHL jerseys out there with the C/A sewn over the seam but it won’t be practical in game use. The shoulders and upper arms of these new jerseys are a different, more elastic, material than the body of the jersey. I’d imagine the stitching would pop right out once they got moving/fighting/getting dressed over time. Of course, Paul would have a field day posting pictures of letters popping off but equipment managers would hate it. :D[/quote]

On the jersey I got from the Flyers, there was no stitching of the numbers, logos, or letters. They all appeared to be affixed in other ways. But that may be an artifact of the commercial use of my jersey as opposed to game use.

Also remember that the Flyers have said that they’ll be using jerseys two sizes too big. That’ll eliminate any stretching. Also I would think that the front of the shoulder area shouldn’t see too much stretching, but more compression.

Regarding the “ANF” decals on Iowa’s helmets (from yesterday): it’s nice that the Hawkeyes have brought them back, and I like this design better than the old one, but their present position is buried on the back of the helmet, along with all the other stuff (number, flag, safety label, etc.). At least with the old logo, it was prominently positioned so that you were going to see it. If you’re going to promote the message that America needs farmers, you can get the message out better by putting the decal in a place where people are going to see it.

And another thing: the first time Iowa wore the old stickers, they beat Michigan, which was ranked #2 at the time (apparently they used to be good). Maybe switching to the old design and placement will switch Iowa’s luck on the field as well.

[quote comment=”144046″][quote comment=”143992″]I wish they’d drop the bay, too. Say it out loud. Tampa Rays. A lot less cumbersome than the Tampa Bay Rays, no?[/quote]
They should have been the Tampa Stingrays from day one. It sounds good, and everybody knows what a stingray is.

Do they honestly think that somebody won’t go to the games simply because they don’t have “Bay” in the team name? As for not actually playing in Tampa, well, the Giants and Jets don’t play in New York, either. If you want to get really technical, the Cowboys don’t play in Dallas, and the Bills don’t play in Buffalo.[/quote]
Florida is really screwed up Geographically. For example, the U. of South Florida isn’t even in South Florida, its in Tampa.

I haven’t seen the new identity package, but it sounds like the Devil Rays dropped the ball big time on this one. “We won’t use Stingrays because people could call us the Stinkrays.” So freaking what!

I really thought that they would fix the mistake that Naimoli made 10+ years ago in not paying the Maui Stingrays for the rights to Stingrays.

Unbelieveable.

Anyways, Paul, any other clues/hints/info you can give on the logos? Did they carry anything over from the current identity? What about the cap logo? Not being a jersey wearer, the cap is the most important element for me.

I wish they’d drop the bay, too. Say it out loud. Tampa Rays. A lot less cumbersome than the Tampa Bay Rays, no?

Tampa link?

[quote comment=”144046″][quote comment=”143992″]I wish they’d drop the bay, too. Say it out loud. Tampa Rays. A lot less cumbersome than the Tampa Bay Rays, no?[/quote]
They should have been the Tampa Stingrays from day one. It sounds good, and everybody knows what a stingray is.

Do they honestly think that somebody won’t go to the games simply because they don’t have “Bay” in the team name? As for not actually playing in Tampa, well, the Giants and Jets don’t play in New York, either. If you want to get really technical, the Cowboys don’t play in Dallas, and the Bills don’t play in Buffalo.[/quote]

That like the Orioles never wearing “Baltimore” on their jerseys so Angelos can claim more of a regional domain. He’s not fooling any of us (re: Washingtonians) that the O’s are our team… trust us we’d rather have our sub-par Nats than his sub-par O’s any day.

Its completely shallow and possibly useless information, but the rounded hemline of the NHL jerseys flaps nicely in the back when a player is skating full speed. That has always been one of my favorite sights to see on a hockey rink.

If I had to guess, I’d say its a remnant from when the jerseys were originally designed to be tucked into the pants, though.

[quote comment=”144049″]Regarding the “ANF” decals on Iowa’s helmets (from yesterday): it’s nice that the Hawkeyes have brought them back, and I like this design better than the old one, but their present position is buried on the back of the helmet, along with all the other stuff (number, flag, safety label, etc.). At least with the old logo, it was prominently positioned so that you were going to see it. If you’re going to promote the message that America needs farmers, you can get the message out better by putting the decal in a place where people are going to see it.

And another thing: the first time Iowa wore the old stickers, they beat Michigan, which was ranked #2 at the time (apparently they used to be good). Maybe switching to the old design and placement will switch Iowa’s luck on the field as well.[/quote]

in the movie “the program” iowa had the flag and anf decals on the helmet like pictured yesterday. a detail often missed in these kinda films. “invinceable” was very good in catching these details, especially in the facemasks used.

You could argue the Dallas Stars went to the black as a primary color when they were still the Minnesota North Stars, but I think that was something ownership did knowing they’d be moving south as both a way to lessen the impact of losing the North Stars Minnesota fans on the team, and rebrand themselves as a new team once in Dallas.

so the tape finally goes all the way around the hockeystick on the sharks logo

I have to admit that I wasn’t a fan of the new RBK uniforms when they were rolled out. But seeing them in game action during the preseason via photos, I have come around. They look pretty sharp on most teams, even the ones that I didn’t love when they were revealed.

interesting last sentence in this article…
did i miss a day? i was under the impression that the blue/gray one was going to be used more often to the point when the orange was weeded out.
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[quote comment=”144061″][quote comment=”144046″][quote comment=”143992″]I wish they’d drop the bay, too. Say it out loud. Tampa Rays. A lot less cumbersome than the Tampa Bay Rays, no?[/quote]
They should have been the Tampa Stingrays from day one. It sounds good, and everybody knows what a stingray is.

Do they honestly think that somebody won’t go to the games simply because they don’t have “Bay” in the team name? [/quote]

Do you honestly think that more people would go to games just because the name would sound better without “Bay”? Why potentially upset a portion of the fanbase if it’s not going to help the team?[/quote]
Do people go to the games as it is?

[quote comment=”144067″]
So here’s where I’m going with this, for what it’s worth (and if it’s been done already, I apologize in advance): Do you think it’s a worthwhile cause to start documenting all the teams that have ditched a main color for black in effort to see how far its gone (and possibly organize a larger voice to end this practice)? I don’t necessarily mean the teams with alternate jerseys or that added black accents or trimming like the Detroit Lions, I mean where a team actually has prominent enough addition of black that it’s essentially a team color now (although documenting black accents could be worthwhile too). Any thoughts about this?[/quote]

I alluded to this trend of black on my blog entry about the Flyers. The Flyers had link before they went black. Everything about those jerseys were right: contrasting shoulder yoke to jersey, black accentuation to highlight the contrasts, a clear and crisp logo, and a distinct and unique colour for their look.

That’s what makes a uniform. The team can be identified from what they are wearing. Why do you think UPS pushes the “what can brown do for you” motto? It’s what makes them different and recognizable no matter where they are or where they go.

Black is worn out. The Raiders are acceptable with the silver and black. The Saints can pass too. Everyone else needs to move away from black… sooner than later.

Sorry, Minna. I know your love of black, but if you cheer for the Twins who refuse to wear black uniforms, you may not be tied to it for all other teams. Historically, if a team has a black jersey, it can stay, in my opinion. If it does not, it should be banned.

Referees in Flyers/Devils game last night wearing orange armbands. Their jerseys appeared with the NHL crest, meaning they are not AHL officials. Appears to be Kerry Fraiser in one picture, wearing orange arm bands.

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[quote comment=”144082″]
Black is worn out. The Raiders are acceptable with the silver and black. The Saints can pass too. Everyone else needs to move away from black… sooner than later.[/quote]

What about the White Sox? They’ve had the same black uniforms for 16 years now (a very long time in White Sox uniform terms), and it’s hard to imagine them changing (nor should they).

[quote comment=”143973″][quote comment=”143964″]I agree… I think the new Sharks sweaters are sweet, incorporating their new logo with their original look (striping below the crest and sleeve numbers. And I love the contrasting shoulders![/quote]

One big problem though. The continued use by many teams of the front number. Pointless clutter. Plus I won’t be happy with any jersey until the rounded hemline is eliminated.[/quote]
I like the Sharks new look. However I agree the small number on the upper right makes it cluttered. What happens if teams with numbers on the upper right make it to the Stanley Cup Finals, where will they put the patch?

Also the shoulder logos seem to big. Having these logos is repetitive of the main crest. I was hoping they would use the Shark Fin on the shoulders.

But overall an ok uniform.

agreed. when black is a complementarey color in a teams uni, my opinion is that its ok to throw a black alternatie in once in a while as a change of pace.

my hatred of dook was only stoked when they started with the black alternate, and then added it as a complementary color.

Paul,
This could quite possibly go into your least favorite uniform section of the FAQ’s very quickly.
Hope you haven’t eaten recently: link and link

[quote comment=”144020″]Speaking of placement of captain C’s and assistant A’s, I thought the Canucks could have come up with a link of denoting these link and help avoid the link.[/quote]

Alternates, not assistants.

[quote comment=”144107″]The NHL jerseys are looking good in action and on the ice.[/quote]

I disagree there. St. Louis, Calgary and Florida all look awful, while Edmonton just looks incredibly boring.

It’s not surprising, but the NHL has really done an awful job here.

Why is Michigan wearing adidas when Nike sponsors their jerseys?

[quote comment=”144105″]link look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).[/quote]

Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….

Looks like the other Jim and I are on about the same time alot recently … going to a different, less likely to be repeated name …

A favor to ask of everyone … lots and lots of comments for the next couple days (and be nice, would ya?) … just had all four wisdom teeth removed this morning … I’ll be spending alot of time here (and now thinking it’s worth getting my own membership). Without uniwatch, I’ll be forced to either talk with family or work from home. If it means anything, subject matter like Cubs uniforms would definitely keep my interest.

I hurt. Please help.

Thanks

[quote comment=”144119″][quote comment=”144046″][quote comment=”143992″]I wish they’d drop the bay, too. Say it out loud. Tampa Rays. A lot less cumbersome than the Tampa Bay Rays, no?[/quote]
They should have been the Tampa Stingrays from day one. It sounds good, and everybody knows what a stingray is.

Do they honestly think that somebody won’t go to the games simply because they don’t have “Bay” in the team name? As for not actually playing in Tampa, well, the Giants and Jets don’t play in New York, either. If you want to get really technical, the Cowboys don’t play in Dallas, and the Bills don’t play in Buffalo.[/quote]

Or they could drop the Tampa and just be the Bay Rays.
“…I’m in da club hollerin’ Ay Bay Rays…”[/quote]

“The Tampa Rays of St. Petersburg, Tampa, Orlando, Destin, Miami – but only if you’re not already a Marlins Fan, South Beach, and Pensicola … Unless, Of Course, We’re Alienating You, In Which Case Send Us An E-mail, And We’ll Include Your City On The Next Homestand Programs”

From the some-times amusing, often preachy TMQ, via ESPN.com . .

“Briscoe High to Wear White on Road: Two other NFHS (National Federation of State High School Associations) notes. First, starting in 2012, high school uniform looks will be standardized — the home team will be required to wear a colored jersey and the visiting team required to wear whites. Alternative uniforms have reached down even to the high school ranks, and they have been causing confusion.”

Glad to see the NFHS “Gets it(TM)”

[quote comment=”144116″][quote comment=”144113″]Why is Michigan wearing adidas when Nike sponsors their jerseys?[/quote]

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Explain what you mean here[/quote]

Michigan goes to Adidas next school year, I believe.

[quote comment=”143983″]I was really disturbed by the Redskins unis last night. The three different shades of burgundy they had on looked like crap. I don’t remember them being that bad in the past. Is it that hard to have your helmet, socks and jersey all be the same color. I guess that’s why they wear the whites so much.[/quote]

The helmet, jerseys and socks weren’t as different as they looked on tv last night. If you look at the pictures from the photographers at field level, you’ll see that it’s all much closer in shade.

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I think that the tv cameras and the blue/white light from the stadium lights caused the jersey to reflect more toward the purple end of burgundy than the red.

I’ve noticed in the past that the Ravens purple jerseys turn almost blue when they play under the lights.

But it doesn’t seem to pick up as badly in the still photos as it does in video.

As far as the Skins name…I’ve grown up a Skins fan. I used to be much more closed-minded about the team name. (I mean honestly, when was the last time you heard someone who wasn’t a potato called a “Red-skin?”) But if people are HONESTLY offended by it…(and I don’t mean just trying to get their 15 minutes of fame by taking advantage of the fact that their great grandmother was 1/4 cherokee to latch on to a lawsuit)…if a significant group of people to whom that heritage is still very much part of their life is offended by it, then I think you change it…or find a way to work with the offended group to find a middle ground. (Though I hate the Seminoles, I think it’s awesome the way they’ve engaged the Seminole tribe in their use of the term.)

From a Yankees fan watching the series this weekend, Lugo’s pine tar stain on his front shoulder while batting is from him lifting the sleeve of that arm with the hand that is covered from pine tar from his bat. It’s just from his fingers.

[quote comment=”144106″][quote comment=”144020″]Speaking of placement of captain C’s and assistant A’s, I thought the Canucks could have come up with a link of denoting these link and help avoid the link.[/quote]

Alternates, not assistants.[/quote]
I have heard both terms used interchangeably. The Bruins refer to link and link as Assistant Captains.

[quote comment=”144136″][quote comment=”144106″][quote comment=”144020″]Speaking of placement of captain C’s and assistant A’s, I thought the Canucks could have come up with a link of denoting these link and help avoid the link.[/quote]

Alternates, not assistants.[/quote]
I have heard both terms used interchangeably. The Bruins refer to link and link as Assistant Captains.[/quote]
Can’t believe the Bruins let that get on their website. I’ve always known it to be Alternate, not Assistant. Of course, Harry Sinden has also always done what the hell he wanted…

[quote comment=”144140″][quote comment=”144136″][quote comment=”144106″][quote comment=”144020″]Speaking of placement of captain C’s and assistant A’s, I thought the Canucks could have come up with a link of denoting these link and help avoid the link.[/quote]

Alternates, not assistants.[/quote]
I have heard both terms used interchangeably. The Bruins refer to link and link as Assistant Captains.[/quote]
Can’t believe the Bruins let that get on their website. I’ve always known it to be Alternate, not Assistant. Of course, Harry Sinden has also always done what the hell he wanted…[/quote]

I agree, I’ve always cringed at “assistant” too. Likewise, I’ve always called the uniform a “sweater”, but with the new Rbk design I think jersey is more appropriate. I guess we’re losing a little of the tradition of the game in these small details.

[quote comment=”144132″]Along with the Rams, as I said earlier, the Steelers used to have mismatched 2’s when it came to serifs when they still wore the “block” numerals.link and link back in the 70’s. link with John Stallworth

But this continued into the 90’s with link.[/quote]

I just noticed someting in the Bradshaw picture … the font used to display the number on the front of the helmet back then … is that the same font now used for the jerseys? (please don’t boil me in oil if it’s been discussed before … it’s still baseball season in my little brain until the Cubs are out of it – shouldn’t be long, he he, I know – and I pay more attention to MLB matters than NFL, NBA, and that other major sport … you know … MLS).

[quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105″]link look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).[/quote]

Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….[/quote]
A fully gray hockey uniform? I dont know how that would look. And I mean when did team colors have to reflect their mascot? Should the D-rays be totally black cause thats what a ray is? should the the chicago bears be brown (cause their mascot is a grizzly). Should the Lions be gold?[/quote]
I can’t find a picture, but I remember Ohio State wearing all grey unis once.

On the topic of alternate vs. assistant captains. I’ve known it as both. I think the hockey purist who call jerseys sweaters refer to them as alternates. Both are right though.

[quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105″]link look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).[/quote]

Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….[/quote]
A fully gray hockey uniform? I dont know how that would look. And I mean when did team colors have to reflect their mascot? Should the D-rays be totally black cause thats what a ray is? should the the chicago bears be brown (cause their mascot is a grizzly). Should the Lions be gold?[/quote]

I don’t know about gray…but a gun-metal gray, maybe a little darker than the pewter that the Buccaneers use…that would make for a sharp jersey color!

[quote comment=”144140″]
Can’t believe the Bruins let that get on their website. I’ve always known it to be Alternate, not Assistant. Of course, Harry Sinden has also always done what the hell he wanted…[/quote]

Sinden hasn’t been directly involved with the Bruins now for a few seasons. Jemermy Jacobs and Peter Chiarelli are the men in charge now.

[quote comment=”144148″][quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105″]link look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).[/quote]

Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….[/quote]
A fully gray hockey uniform? I dont know how that would look. And I mean when did team colors have to reflect their mascot? Should the D-rays be totally black cause thats what a ray is? should the the chicago bears be brown (cause their mascot is a grizzly). Should the Lions be gold?[/quote]
I can’t find a picture, but I remember Ohio State wearing all grey unis once.

On the topic of alternate vs. assistant captains. I’ve known it as both. I think the hockey purist who call jerseys sweaters refer to them as alternates. Both are right though.[/quote]

They’re pretty bad

link

It looks even worse on the ice. Providence College also had a pretty nasty third jersey three years so, I think, with a P in the middle. It was more ‘silver’ if I remember correctly.

[quote comment=”144155″][quote comment=”144148″][quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105″]link look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).[/quote]

Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….[/quote]
A fully gray hockey uniform? I dont know how that would look. And I mean when did team colors have to reflect their mascot? Should the D-rays be totally black cause thats what a ray is? should the the chicago bears be brown (cause their mascot is a grizzly). Should the Lions be gold?[/quote]
I can’t find a picture, but I remember Ohio State wearing all grey unis once.

On the topic of alternate vs. assistant captains. I’ve known it as both. I think the hockey purist who call jerseys sweaters refer to them as alternates. Both are right though.[/quote]

They’re pretty bad

link

It looks even worse on the ice. Providence College also had a pretty nasty third jersey three years so, I think, with a P in the middle. It was more ‘silver’ if I remember correctly.[/quote]

Interesting to be a Nike jersey with what looks an aweful lot like the Rbk Edge NHL collars ….

[quote comment=”144034″]With regards to the Sharks jersey, I agree with Paul that the horizontal stripe at the bottom of the jersey will not look good with the rounded bottom.

While I like the classic look of the Blackhawks jersey. However, I hate the white bottom to the red home jersey. It makes it look like they have a huge diaper on. They should have just kept the red at the bottom.

Sharks jersey’s are ok. Teal is not my favorite color.

They are better than Islanders, Sabres et al but, despite Paul’s opinion (because someone made the accusation yesterday that no one would disagree with Paul…which was quickly proven wrong) The Sharks unis are not as good as the Blues. I won’t defend the Blues’ pants…those are goofy. But I like the sweaters.[/quote]

I can’t describe how much I want to see some team, or big name player tell their equipment manager to cut off the rounded part and leave a flat bottom on the jersey.

not uni related but: “African-American quarterbacks face more pressure and more criticism than their white counterparts, Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb says in an interview”…
Give it up McBarff, shall I press replay on the game last night for ya??? What was there not to criticise.??!

Alternates, not assistants.[/quote]
I have heard both terms used interchangeably. The Bruins refer to link and link as Assistant Captains.[/quote][/quote]

Would that be Ass Captains for short?

[quote comment=”143973″][quote comment=”143964″]I agree… I think the new Sharks sweaters are sweet, incorporating their new logo with their original look (striping below the crest and sleeve numbers. And I love the contrasting shoulders![/quote]

One big problem though. The continued use by many teams of the front number. Pointless clutter. Plus I won’t be happy with any jersey until the rounded hemline is eliminated.[/quote]

I must agree with you as well; get rid of the number on the front and the rounded hemline!!!

[quote comment=”143966″]Paul, the Oilers are also guilty of the captaincy over a seam. You can see it link, and link.

I’ve emailed Rbk Hockey for an explanation. If I get anything (which I doubt), I may have to refer it back to you since you’re the one with ESPN credentials. :o)[/quote]

That looks like shit on a stick.

Colorado has link their uniforms, I hope everyone is happy now..

[quote comment=”144170″]

UNH had grey sweaters last year. It was a very light grey maybe 15%

and No both aren’t right. It’s sweater and alternate. Sure many, many people say jersey and assistant but that doesn’t make it correct. A lot of people say AIN’T but that doesn’t mean it’s proper.[/quote]

And what makes “sweater” correct?
The NHL rulebook, as well as the IIHF rulebook, use both the terms “sweater” and “jersey”.
I get the impression that many (not all) hockey fans use the term “sweater” just to prove to each other that they’re real hockey fans.

Kind of like the people (who were born and raised in the US) that call soccer balls “footballs”.

[quote comment=”144184″][quote comment=”144180″]Colorado has link their uniforms, I hope everyone is happy now..[/quote]
haha yeah right.
I don’t know if this is alink, but asst.coach Tremblay’s NHL shield is going in the down direction, and it’s clearly the new logo.[/quote]

But the Rbk logo is slanting the “right” way … interesting!

[quote comment=”144132″]Along with the Rams, as I said earlier, the Steelers used to have mismatched 2’s when it came to serifs when they still wore the “block” numerals.link and link back in the 70’s. link with John Stallworth

But this continued into the 90’s with link.[/quote]

I think their biggest problem is inconsistency in the helmet number font and the jersey number font.

Looks wierd.

[quote comment=”144193″]but id have to say that nhl players havent worn sweaters since, well, the last time they wore sweaters. i mean, havent they really been jerseys for decades?[/quote]

People who insist on calling the piece of fabric that hockey players wear to cover their shoulder pads and undershirts a “sweater” are the same people that are having difficulty accepting the distinction between Division 1 Bowl Subdivision and Division 1 Championship Subdividsion

: )

[quote comment=”144189″]and No both aren’t right. It’s sweater and alternate. Sure many, many people say jersey and assistant but that doesn’t make it correct. A lot of people say AIN’T but that doesn’t mean it’s proper.
I’m Canadian, in my late 20’s, have been around hockey, the NHL, international hockey tournaments all my life (what else is there to do up here lol) and we have always used jersey and assistant captain, not that we’re correct, but Canadians know hockey.[/quote]

Perfect example, obviously someone wanting to preserve tradition (or prove himself a “real” hockey fan) calls them sweaters. I’m willing to accept that they are now “jerseys” since they are so technologically advanced now. What is it 5.8% faster due to the more tapered cut?

As for the captain issue, I prefer alternate, mainly due to the fact that I think of the “A” taking the “C” ‘s place in case of injury, ejection, etc. Plus, that is what is in the link.

[quote comment=”144155″][quote comment=”144148″][quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105″]link look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).[/quote]

Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….[/quote]
A fully gray hockey uniform? I dont know how that would look. And I mean when did team colors have to reflect their mascot? Should the D-rays be totally black cause thats what a ray is? should the the chicago bears be brown (cause their mascot is a grizzly). Should the Lions be gold?[/quote]
I can’t find a picture, but I remember Ohio State wearing all grey unis once.

On the topic of alternate vs. assistant captains. I’ve known it as both. I think the hockey purist who call jerseys sweaters refer to them as alternates. Both are right though.[/quote]

They’re pretty bad

link

It looks even worse on the ice. Providence College also had a pretty nasty third jersey three years so, I think, with a P in the middle. It was more ‘silver’ if I remember correctly.[/quote]
link it is.

Aren’t the Devil Rays named after Tampa Bay, despite their St. Petersburg location, to incorporate the whole bay area? Under that assumption, I thought the “Bay Area Rays” would be a fine sounding name that covered all the needed bases. And done so without leading the team to sound like Tampa Bay Ray, a guy who hustles people at snooker in all night billiard halls.

[quote comment=”144199″][quote comment=”144155″][quote comment=”144148″][quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105They’re pretty bad

link

It looks even worse on the ice. Providence College also had a pretty nasty third jersey three years so, I think, with a P in the middle. It was more ‘silver’ if I remember correctly.[/quote]
link it is.[/quote]

Oh, that’s cool! Kind of reminds me of the Stars old jerseys… :(

[quote comment=”144206″][quote comment=”144199″][quote comment=”144155″][quote comment=”144148″][quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105They’re pretty bad

link

It looks even worse on the ice. Providence College also had a pretty nasty third jersey three years so, I think, with a P in the middle. It was more ‘silver’ if I remember correctly.[/quote]
link it is.[/quote]

Oh, that’s cool! Kind of reminds me of the Stars old jerseys… :([/quote]

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The points and all…

Do they honestly think that somebody won’t go to the games simply because they don’t have “Bay” in the team name?

I might be wrong on this, but I seem to recall a lot of people wanting to call the team the “St. Petersburg Devil Rays.”

[quote comment=”144158″][quote comment=”144155″][quote comment=”144148″][quote comment=”144143″][quote comment=”144115″][quote comment=”144105″][/quote]
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I can’t find a picture, but I remember Ohio State wearing all grey unis once.
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link

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Interesting to be a Nike jersey with what looks an aweful lot like the Rbk Edge NHL collars ….[/quote]

That is actually not a Reebok collar, Nike did it first seen link (sorry you gotta scroll down to see the collar) with their international jersey (pre Nike Swift).

[quote comment=”144140″][quote comment=”144136″][quote comment=”144106″][quote comment=”144020″]Speaking of placement of captain C’s and assistant A’s, I thought the Canucks could have come up with a link of denoting these link and help avoid the link.[/quote]

Alternates, not assistants.[/quote]
I have heard both terms used interchangeably. The Bruins refer to link and link as Assistant Captains.[/quote]
Can’t believe the Bruins let that get on their website. I’ve always known it to be Alternate, not Assistant. Of course, Harry Sinden has also always done what the hell he wanted…[/quote]

If you look at the picture of Bergeron, it has a black bar on it that says “Alternate”. The same with Murray.

Tampa Bay Rays will do fine. As an area resident, I have to tell you the pettiness of the Tampa-St. Pete almost defies belief.

Until you live here long enough and you grow to accept it.

I know St. Pete residents who whine, moan and kvetch every single time some sportscaster calls the D-Rays TAMPA and not TAMPA BAY.

RE: Teal is a horrible color for a sports uniform. Always hated the teal in SJ unis. Since when is a shark teal? They are more gray I feel. SJ Sharks would looke SO much better if they replaced the teal with gray. In my opinion anyways……….

The color teal is in reference to a shark’s habitat which is the Pacific Ocean. I believe, the offical color name is Pacific Teal.

[quote comment=”144129″][quote comment=”143983″]I was really disturbed by the Redskins unis last night. The three different shades of burgundy they had on looked like crap. I don’t remember them being that bad in the past. Is it that hard to have your helmet, socks and jersey all be the same color. I guess that’s why they wear the whites so much.[/quote]

The helmet, jerseys and socks weren’t as different as they looked on tv last night. If you look at the pictures from the photographers at field level, you’ll see that it’s all much closer in shade.

link

I think that the tv cameras and the blue/white light from the stadium lights caused the jersey to reflect more toward the purple end of burgundy than the red.

I’ve noticed in the past that the Ravens purple jerseys turn almost blue when they play under the lights.

But it doesn’t seem to pick up as badly in the still photos as it does in video.

As far as the Skins name…I’ve grown up a Skins fan. I used to be much more closed-minded about the team name. (I mean honestly, when was the last time you heard someone who wasn’t a potato called a “Red-skin?”) But if people are HONESTLY offended by it…(and I don’t mean just trying to get their 15 minutes of fame by taking advantage of the fact that their great grandmother was 1/4 cherokee to latch on to a lawsuit)…if a significant group of people to whom that heritage is still very much part of their life is offended by it, then I think you change it…or find a way to work with the offended group to find a middle ground. (Though I hate the Seminoles, I think it’s awesome the way they’ve engaged the Seminole tribe in their use of the term.)[/quote]
I think the uni’s last night on the skins looked pretty good…get so use to seeing the white on burgundy that it’s a good change…but IMHO the skins should go back to the gold pants…that was a good look.

[quote comment=”143967″]Regarding the Dayton throwback jerseys in the sports ticker. I actually know a little about this, being a UD alum and having run cross country there. The story goes that the official school colors were red and and light blue, called Marianist blue (the Marianist are the religious order who founded the school). Supposedly, the school switched to navy blue during the eighties because the basketball court looked funny on TV when decorated light blue.
All of this came to my attention in 2003 when I was running cross country at UD. Our coach thought it would be a good idea to honor the school’s tradition by ordering Marianist blue jerseys. They were amazing looking. Unfortunately, the athletic department decided they were not officially school colors, and made us get new ones the following season. In fact, they were so against the light blue jerseys, they gave them to us at the end of the year, something they had never done before. So, it’s kind of ironic that they’re selling the throwback football jerseys for $150 on the website, but they were so against the throwback CC jerseys, they gave them away just to get rid of them.[/quote]

Keep in mind that while UD itself looks hypocritical for that, it could be a completely different group of people over-seeing those two decisions.

UD probably has an entirely new marketing department since 2003. College athletics departments turn over marketing staffs pretty frequently… especially a place like UD that would want to have young, entry-level people in that position.

Plus the marketing department is in the Arena (along with the football equipment room) and the cross country administrators and CC equipment man in the Frericks Center, right?

[quote comment=”144105″]link look amazingly sharp on ice (except for the numbers on front).[/quote]

I’m digging the new Sharks jersey…interestingly enough the rounded shirttail isn’t all that noticeable in action….hmmmmm.

When Georgia Tech played Notre Dame, RB Choice (#22) was the only Tech player wearing that style 2…there was an offensive lineman wearing 62, and the 2 was squared off. Someone proove me right…Saturday GT should be back in the road whites against Virginia.

Another Uni-Watch reader who’s a Tech and Braves fan, who loved last year’s throwbacks / white helmets!

I thought the current Rays uni is under-rated as well.

I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but the chicago bears navy pants seem to have orange and white stripes with the white jerseys, but red and white with the navy jerseys. just thought that was interesting

I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but the chicago bears navy pants seem to have orange and white stripes with the white jerseys, but red and white with the navy jerseys. just thought that was interesting.

It could be your eyes playing tricks on you. Darker jerseys sometimes make any other colors seem darker than usual, especially when your mind is processing the outfit as a whole.

That Ted Ginn picture is from last year I believe. It looks like their new jersey (well new last year) in that pic.

I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but the chicago bears navy pants seem to have orange and white stripes with the white jerseys, but red and white with the navy jerseys. just thought that was interesting.

It could be your eyes playing tricks on you. Darker jerseys sometimes make any other colors seem darker than usual, especially when your mind is processing the outfit as a whole.
Ah.

[quote comment=”144262″]Holy crap! Watching the Rockies/Dodgers game right now and Mark Redmond is wearing a black undershirt with HUGE gray arm-pit pannels that are very visible every time he raises his arms to throw. No screen grab but it look hideous.

PS- Tulo for Rookie of the Year[/quote]
Probably nothing new maybe link?

Before any panic sets in just remember that baseball undershirts have a rich history of being one color on the sleeves and another on the body like link.

They just don’t go well with vests.

First, I think this story: link
will be of much interest to everyone. Is it possible the new RBK Edge jerseys can injure players? Will the tearing be something we see a lot during the season?

About the Sharks new jerseys, I think they’re sharp, though I really hate the addition of the orange stripe, its the new “it” color and teams keep finding a way to through it in as an accent color.

On the customized replica RBK Edge jerseys, this is what you’re getting “single layer screen-printed twill personalized name and number heat pressed on the back.” Not sure if the authentics will be stitched and/or if the actual ones the players are wearing are the traditional stitched numbering. When I found out about the “heat pressed” numbers it definitely stopped me from considering laying down $170 for a customized replica.

[quote comment=”144062″]
If I had to guess, I’d say its a remnant from when the jerseys were originally designed to be tucked into the pants, though.[/quote]

When I see all the new jerseys without horizontal stripes along the bottom (especially the horror that is Toronto’s), this is exactly my thought. I really hope this will be done away with by next year…

Alabama has gone with black laces this year. I don’t like it. There have been too many Bama games with black shoes and white laces, nothing should change on those uniforms, ever.

I think it’s pretty funny that the high school jersey with the FSU motif is in Gator colors. Playing to both sides?

Isnt the Nike Total 90 a Rugby cleat (rugby has two 45 minute halves)