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NHL Sets Record for Most Unveilings in One Month

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My college football preview column will be up later today on ESPN. I’m gonna be traveling (more on that in a sec), so Vince will add the link when it goes live. Drum roll please… here it is.

The Canucks unveiled their new uniforms yesterday, and everything you need to know about them can be found in this photo.

Looks pretty good as a T-shirt, right? But when you add sleeve stripes, sleeve numbers, shoulder patches, and waist striping, the total effect is way too busy. Throw in a captain’s “C” and you’ve reached critical mass.

Personally, I have no problem with the city name on the front (at the very least, it’s certainly not part of any other template we’ve seen, right?), and I give them credit for rendering it in a simple typeface with no drop shadow, no outlining, no bells or whistles. But why pair it with the orca, which nobody ever liked to begin with? Feels like a shotgun wedding. And why make the orca so big? If you combine the logo and the wordmark, the combined acreage takes up much more of the jersey than a typical NHL crest — it’s too much.

Other notes:

• The rear typography is fine.

• As much as I love lower-jersey stripes, I’m starting to think they just don’t work with Reebok’s rounded hemline.

• Nice to see the stick/rink logo on the pants.

Personally, I’m still hoping they’ll eventually use this.

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Membership News: As you can see at right, Scott really outdid himself with the Colorado Caribous treatment for Matt Thompson‘s card. My original plan was to glue some real fringe to Matt’s laminated card, but I’ve tabled that idea, since it would obscure Scott’s excellent work.

Yesterday’s batch of new designs (which, like all the membership designs, are on display in the card gallery) had two other notable entries: First, there’s our first playing surface-based design. True, it’s not a uniform, but I’ve occasionally written about field design, and that Robert Indiana-designed court was definitely part of the Bucks’ graphic identity in the 1990s, so why not? Looks pretty swank when cloaked in the Uni Watch border, too.

And then there’s this, based on the WFL’s old Southern California Sun. Scott thinks this one’s gonna be controversial because you’re all gonna start screaming, “Hey, that’s purple, what gives?” I say you’re all smart enough to recognize the difference between purple and fuschia. And yeah, fuschia is arguably the more offensive of the two, but it almost never comes up in the uni world, so I can’t get too worked up about it. More of a kitschy indulgence than a loathsome plague.

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Weekday Road Trip: Just in case the purple fuschia card design sparks an uprising, Scott and I are high-tailing it upstate today to catch a Binghamton Mets game. If any Bingotown-area readers want to join us for beer and spiedies, we’ll be at the always-wonderful Sharkey’s from about 5:00 to 6:15.

Sorry for the super-short notice. And if you can’t make it to Sharkey’s but want to join us at the game, e-mail your name and cell number to Vince. He’ll get the info to me later in the day, and then I’ll call you from the stadium to let you know where we’re sitting.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s a doozy: MLB exec Bob Watson actually entered the Red Sox dugout during last night’s game to tell Bosox skipper Terry Francona to wear a jersey instead of his usual fleece pullover. Details here. … According to the last item on this page, the 49ers are thinking about wearing Montana-era throwbacks all season long, as a tribute to Bill Walsh (good find by Chris Rogers). … “I happened to stumble across a hurling match on one of the more obscure Dish channels,” writes Craig Ward. “I found it odd that the players wore all sorts of different colored helmets — there doesn’t appear to be any rhyme or reason to it, just personal preference.” Anyone know more about this? … Several readers noted that the MLB logo was missing from Robinson Cano’s jersey on Tuesday night. … “Tuesday night, Comcast ran a special piece about Ryne Sandberg and his life as the manager of the Peoria Chiefs, the Cubs’ single-A affiliate,” writes Pat Ratliff. “Ryne said that when some of his players saw old pictures of him rocking the high stirrups back in his playing days, they were blown away, as if they hadn’t seen stirrups in their lives. Ryne proceeded to order a supply of stirrups from the Cubs for his team to wear on the field. Looks like he needs to take his own advice and show some sock. Also looks like none of his players in the pic are actually wearing stirrups — just socks.” … A source in the Rangers’ clubhouse reports that skipper Ron Washington does not wear a cup. The source also offers this bit of news: “A promising development for next season — we’re most likely going to use the Cool Base material for our sleeveless jerseys, which would provide the benefits of the cooler material without the weird underarm gussets.” … Penn State is pulling a Wisconsin (with thanks to William F. Yurasko). … Vince will be minding the store today while I’m road-tripping. So if you have spam-filter problems or other site-related issues, contact him. Ticker tips can still come to me.

 
  
 
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    Gotta disagree with you on the Vancouver jerseys. The city on the front is unique, I like the orca, and the stick-rink is a nice throwback. If you want to give an example of a mess, look no further than the Islanders new unis. Totally pathetic, and I’m an Islander fan. I’d rather see the fishsticks uni than this mess.

    Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great. If I was smarter I’d post a picture.

    Are there still going to be those f*cking jock tags on the player’s lower left hand side of the jersey? When not tucked in, they’re going to look like dumbasses. I hope equipment managers are smart enough to do a Clemens (cut off that damn tag).

    [quote comment=”138329″]Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great. If I was smarter I’d post a picture.[/quote]
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    About the Cano jersey…

    Many of the Yankees are using the same Pinstripe jersey over and over again, and the MLB logo is actually wearing off from all the washes that need to be done to get them looking white. You can see the same thing on Arod, Giambi, among others.

    Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.

    [quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]
    Yeah, but consistency counts (and this from a Yankees fan). . .Did Watson walk over to the Yankees dugout and reprimand Ron Guidry who was wearing a pullover and not a jersey? Torre might have been pullover-clad as well (He DEFINITELY was on Tuesday night!) No mention of that in the piece from the Post

    My guess on the hurling helmets has to do with funds. While hugely popular in Ireland, hurling is still a game played exclusively by amateurs. Since teams are playing for their home counties in the all ireland championships, they probably play for other teams within their county during other parts of the year.

    Also, I dig the new canucks uniforms. The whale is a bit large, but i like what they’ve done with the wordmark.

    “I happened to stumble across a hurling match on one of the more obscure Dish channels,” writes Craig Ward. “I found it odd that the players wore all sorts of different colored helmets — there doesn’t appear to be any rhyme or reason to it, just personal preference.” Anyone know more about this?

    With GAA you have your local club and if you are good enough, also play for the county (Cork as shown in the pic) all players would wear the helmets of the local club as there is no one helmet for the county. This is mainly because GAA is not professional so they have to save costs wherever possible.

    [quote comment=”138341″]they probably play for other teams within their county during other parts of the year.

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    Meant to add: thus the different color helmets

    The various hurling helmets have something to do with lack of funds, but the helmet is also not considered a part of the standard uniform. It’s totally optional for players over 21. So I liken it to NBA players wearing different wristbands, or MLBers wearing different batting gloves.

    The Vancouver unis don’t even work as t-shirts. They are ugly, and I agree that the lower stripe does not look good on the rounded hemlines of the jerseys.

    Hey! I’m back from England, y’all. I only watched one footy game on the telly, and it was only a friendly between England and Germany. Nothing much to report in terms of unis.

    However, in the Chicago O’Hare airport, there were pink caps a’plenty. Even though I am the supposed target audience for such cappery (yes, I just made up that word), looking at them made me want to scream. I hate pink.

    [quote comment=”138334″][quote comment=”138329″]Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great. If I was smarter I’d post a picture.[/quote]
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    Thanks for the pics. Man, those jerseys are sweet. WAY better than the new ones. They are just too cramped and busy. I like the blue and green though. If they wanted blue and green just should have stuck with the ‘stick and rink’ jersey they wore as their third jersey last year. Those were great too.

    [quote comment=”138340″][quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]
    Yeah, but consistency counts (and this from a Yankees fan). . .Did Watson walk over to the Yankees dugout and reprimand Ron Guidry who was wearing a pullover and not a jersey? Torre might have been pullover-clad as well (He DEFINITELY was on Tuesday night!) No mention of that in the piece from the Post[/quote]

    Torre weares his jersey under the jacket when he wears the jacket.

    I can’t stand any manager or coach not wearing their jersey in favor of a freaking pullover. I find it interesting that Watson said something to Francona when he did…

    I would have rather seen Johnny Canuck under “Vanocuver” myself. Much better than that stupid orca.

    Vancouver did a few things right. The blue/greeen colour combo is by far superior to the red/black/blue/silver of the last few years. Glad to see the rink/stick logo still intact, but the city name gives it a college football feel that is weird. Not sure about the font either, at least they had the decency of creating their own font (pretty sure), but it still looks a little true-type-y.

    If the Leafs jersey’s are as bad, Toronto might just be the worst jersey town collectively (Jays, Raps, Leafs). Maybe that’s a new poll.

    [quote comment=”138351″]I would have rather seen Johnny Canuck under “Vanocuver” myself. Much better than that stupid orca.[/quote]
    I think we have another entry that we can file under the ‘not great’, but ‘not completely terrible either’ category. I like the colors (though i also like the black, yellow, and orange as well), just a bit busy. The Johnny Canuck would have been better.

    [quote comment=”138342″]“I happened to stumble across a hurling match on one of the more obscure Dish channels,” writes Craig Ward. “I found it odd that the players wore all sorts of different colored helmets — there doesn’t appear to be any rhyme or reason to it, just personal preference.” Anyone know more about this?

    With GAA you have your local club and if you are good enough, also play for the county (Cork as shown in the pic) all players would wear the helmets of the local club as there is no one helmet for the county. This is mainly because GAA is not professional so they have to save costs wherever possible.[/quote]

    Besides helmuts, footwear i ssupplied by the player not the county, so they will not match either

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    [quote comment=”138353″][quote comment=”138351″]I would have rather seen Johnny Canuck under “Vanocuver” myself. Much better than that stupid orca.[/quote]
    I think we have another entry that we can file under the ‘not great’, but ‘not completely terrible either’ category. I like the colors (though i also like the black, yellow, and orange as well), just a bit busy. The Johnny Canuck would have been better.[/quote]

    Yea, it could have been the Panthers’ uniform, so while it’s not the best jersey unveiled, it’s definitely not the worst.

    [quote comment=”138354″]The very same Bob Watson that scored baseball’s one millionth run?[/quote]

    Yes.

    I just read a comment on yesterday’s post expressing hope that the Rbk Edge jersey template goes the way of the new NBA ball. Personally, I would love to see that happen, as all but 2 of these jerseys thus far (Bruins, Red Wings) are atrocious on some level or another (whether it be apron strings, weird sleeves and hemlines, shoulder piping, etc). However this will not happen unless the players express their displeasure with the jerseys (remember, no one cared what basketball fans thought of the new ball; it was player gripes that finally sent it back to the drawing board). So far, I haven’t heard any player comment other than “Well, it was weird at first, but I kinda like it now” or something to that effect. Bottom line: Gary Bettman hates real hockey fans, and he is destroying the game those fans love to attract more casual, dumber fans so ratings go up and bank accounts get bigger.

    Rant over.

    [quote]”I happened to stumble across a hurling match on one of the more obscure Dish channels,” writes Craig Ward. “I found it odd that the players wore all sorts of different colored helmets — there doesn’t appear to be any rhyme or reason to it, just personal preference.” Anyone know more about this?[/quote]

    Ah, Sentanta Sports, the all-soccer, -Australian Football League, -rugby and -hurling channel.

    As far as the new NHL jersey’s go, here’s how I would rank Vancouver in with all the other jersey’s that have been officially unveiled so far

    Bruins
    Red Wings
    Rangers
    Blue Jackets
    Senators
    Capitals
    Canucks
    Lightning
    Islangers
    Predators
    Panthers

    [quote comment=”138329″]A source in the Rangers’ clubhouse reports… The source also offers this bit of news: “A promising development for next season — we’re most likely going to use the Cool Base material for our sleeveless jerseys, which would provide the benefits of the cooler material without the weird underarm gussets.” …[/quote]

    i still dont get this cool base jersey situation. will someone please explain it to me?

    ok, i understand the material and its benefits with moisture and cooling and all its technology.

    but if its such a good material, why arent all jerseys (home, road, alternates) made with the cool base material? why just 1 of the jerseys?
    it makes no sense!

    i refuse to accept cost as an answer, i mean, its the freakin major leagues!

    [quote comment=”138364″]As far as the new NHL jersey’s go, here’s how I would rank Vancouver in with all the other jersey’s that have been officially unveiled so far

    Bruins
    Red Wings
    Rangers
    Blue Jackets
    Senators
    Capitals
    Canucks
    Lightning
    Islangers
    Predators
    Panthers[/quote]

    The Islanders jersey’s are so bad that they changed their name and the old ones went into hiding. They are in the “Jersey Protection Program”

    [quote comment=”138329″]Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great.[/quote]

    Egads, no. There’s something about those colors and that logo that just screams “diner” to me. Probably mostly the logo.

    I actually like the Canucks’ new duds, but I think the Orca C would work better as a secondary mark on the sleeve. Imagine how awesome having the rink-stick under that ‘VANCOUVER’ lettering would be.

    Hallelujah!!!!
    I’m so glad the 9ers are considering the old jerseys. I’ve thought the new design was a “maroon mistake” since day one…and the black outline on everything, PLEASE!!
    The old unis were classics. Maybe they will win the Super Bowl and refuse to go back for b/c of superstition…yeah right!

    I have been pissed ever since the 49ers ditched their classic uni’s for their current Reebok garbage (back in ’96). I wonder if they’ll consider wearing the white jerseys while on the road?

    [quote comment=”138362″][quote comment=”138354″]The very same Bob Watson that scored baseball’s one millionth run?[/quote]

    Yes.[/quote]
    Yep, link.

    [quote comment=”138369″][quote comment=”138329″]Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great.[/quote]

    Egads, no. There’s something about those colors and that logo that just screams “diner” to me. Probably mostly the logo.

    I actually like the Canucks’ new duds, but I think the Orca C would work better as a secondary mark on the sleeve. Imagine how awesome having the rink-stick under that ‘VANCOUVER’ lettering would be.[/quote]
    Okay, I’ll expose my ignorance. . .

    Is there something that linking an orca to the city of Vancouver that would make it a natural selection for the logo of a team??
    Please forgive an ignorant American who has spent his entire life on the East Coast.

    If you need footage of Bob Watson wearing the Tequila Sunrise uni, watch ‘The Bad News Bears in Breaking Training’. He may even have a line or two during the famous “LET THEM PLAY” scene at the Astrodome.

    BTW, on link he’s credited as Robert J. Watson.

    [quote comment=”138369″][quote comment=”138329″]Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great.[/quote]

    Egads, no. There’s something about those colors and that logo that just screams “diner” to me. Probably mostly the logo.

    I actually like the Canucks’ new duds, but I think the Orca C would work better as a secondary mark on the sleeve. Imagine how awesome having the rink-stick under that ‘VANCOUVER’ lettering would be.[/quote]
    Now that’s not a bad idea. I think that’s the way the city name would work best.

    On another note, I too like the old orange and black skate logo, but wouldn’t want it back full time, maybe as an alternate when alternates are allowed again.

    [quote comment=”138363″][quote]”I happened to stumble across a hurling match on one of the more obscure Dish channels,” writes Craig Ward. “I found it odd that the players wore all sorts of different colored helmets — there doesn’t appear to be any rhyme or reason to it, just personal preference.” Anyone know more about this?[/quote]

    Ah, Sentanta Sports, the all-soccer, -Australian Football League, -rugby and -hurling channel.[/quote]

    D’you mean link?

    [quote comment=”138381″][quote comment=”138369″][quote comment=”138329″]Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great.[/quote]

    Egads, no. There’s something about those colors and that logo that just screams “diner” to me. Probably mostly the logo.

    I actually like the Canucks’ new duds, but I think the Orca C would work better as a secondary mark on the sleeve. Imagine how awesome having the rink-stick under that ‘VANCOUVER’ lettering would be.[/quote]
    Okay, I’ll expose my ignorance. . .

    Is there something that linking an orca to the city of Vancouver that would make it a natural selection for the logo of a team??
    Please forgive an ignorant American who has spent his entire life on the East Coast.[/quote]

    Orcas are prevalent in the waters off the western coast of Canada, and Vancouver is near the coast. One of the articles I read said the jerseys included “our natural neighbor, the orca”

    [quote comment=”138385″][quote comment=”138381″][quote comment=”138369″][quote comment=”138329″]Vancouver needs to go back to the black, yellow and orange ‘Canuck’ Design of the 90’s. Those were great.[/quote]

    Egads, no. There’s something about those colors and that logo that just screams “diner” to me. Probably mostly the logo.

    I actually like the Canucks’ new duds, but I think the Orca C would work better as a secondary mark on the sleeve. Imagine how awesome having the rink-stick under that ‘VANCOUVER’ lettering would be.[/quote]
    Okay, I’ll expose my ignorance. . .

    Is there something that linking an orca to the city of Vancouver that would make it a natural selection for the logo of a team??
    Please forgive an ignorant American who has spent his entire life on the East Coast.[/quote]

    Orcas are prevalent in the waters off the western coast of Canada, and Vancouver is near the coast. One of the articles I read said the jerseys included “our natural neighbor, the orca”[/quote]
    I knew Vancouver is on the coast . . .I did not know about the prevalence of orcas off said coast. Thank you for the education. . . everything makes more sense now (except of course the wordmark on the front of the jersey!)

    [quote comment=”138364″]As far as the new NHL jersey’s go, here’s how I would rank Vancouver in with all the other jersey’s that have been officially unveiled so far

    Bruins
    Red Wings
    Rangers
    Blue Jackets
    Senators
    Capitals
    Canucks
    Lightning
    Islangers
    Predators
    Panthers[/quote]
    here’s mine: Senators, Red Wings, Bruins, Rangers, Blue Jackets, Capitals, Lightning, Canucks, Predators, Panthers, Islanders.

    It looks as though Vancouver has a “self-esteem” issue.

    Why else would they feel the need to showcase the city they’re from? Imagine if the Rangers placed a NEW YORK over the liberty head logo… It would look like crap.

    Thumbs way down.

    Isn’t the Orca on the jersey also supposed to resemble a totem pole, kinda like the Seahawks helmet?

    Isn’t the Orca on the jersey also supposed to resemble a totem pole, kinda like the Seahawks helmet?

    Yes. It’s done using motifs from First Nation (the Canadian term for their indigenous people) art.

    The Johnny Canuck would have been better.

    If you go to Chris Creamer’s logo page, he has a number of new secondary marks for the Canucks, one of which is a block “V” with Johnny Canuck’s head. Perhaps for the third jersey that might debut in 2008-2009?

    Ottawa Citizen ranks the top (or bottom depending how you look at it) 5 worst NHL jerseys (their word, not mine…)

    I have an idea for Paul (and Vince). With all the money that you have raised from the very successful membership program, why doesn’t Uniwatch sponsor a little league baseball team and supply appropriate leg-wear and uniforms? Change the “Get It” T-shirt to a jersey; I would totally get one for myself.

    What saddens me: the “update” of the wonderfully abstract and iconic stick-in-rink.

    How could they? Why would they?

    [quote comment=”138323″]Gotta disagree with you on the Vancouver jerseys. The city on the front is unique, I like the orca, and the stick-rink is a nice throwback. If you want to give an example of a mess, look no further than the Islanders new unis. Totally pathetic, and I’m an Islander fan. I’d rather see the fishsticks uni than this mess.[/quote]

    The city on the front would be unique if Nashville hadn’t done link weeks earlier on their road jerseys. That’s like saying that Tampa Bay is unique for only putting the jersey number on link when link started the trend.

    As I stated in my blog, it’s not like Vancouver didn’t know about the huge sales of their retro jerseys last season. Why not swap the stick-in-rink logo for the Orca logo? Put the Orca on the shoulder, and then link to make it far more pleasing to the eye. The Orca looks stupid on the home jerseys mostly because link.

    The Canucks dropped the ball on this one. They had a chance to be as good as the Bruins, but they seemingly lost their minds when it came to the front of the jersey.

    Does anyone know why the Galaxy were wearing a black armband last night during the SuperLiga final?

    [quote comment=”138401″]Does anyone know why the Galaxy were wearing a black armband last night during the SuperLiga final?[/quote]

    For Antonio Puerta, of Sevilla. He passed away after having multiple heart attacks (seemingly one on the field). It was very frightening when I saw it on TV.

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    [quote comment=”138364″]As far as the new NHL jersey’s go, here’s how I would rank Vancouver in with all the other jersey’s that have been officially unveiled so far

    Bruins
    Red Wings
    Rangers
    Blue Jackets
    Senators
    Capitals
    Canucks
    Lightning
    Islangers
    Predators
    Panthers[/quote]

    Wow! I agree with you 100% on your list order.

    Sorry Matt Thompson, but the Colorado Caribou top my list of worst uniforms EVER!

    You are a brave man to have this uniform illustrated on you UniWatch membership card.

    Paul, sorry to be picky but the Robert Indiana-designed Mecca floor debuted in ’77, and was gone by (IIRC) ’88. Still, one of the nicest courts I’ve ever seen, although the ’96 – ’99 Hornets court was always my favourite.

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court & field designs…

    [quote comment=”138410″]Paul, sorry to be picky but the Robert Indiana-designed Mecca floor debuted in ’77, and was gone by (IIRC) ’88. Still, one of the nicest courts I’ve ever seen, although the ’96 – ’99 Hornets court was always my favourite.

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court & field designs…[/quote]
    Although fictitious, link must make that column.

    Bob Watson seriously needs to get some balance in his life. Who really cares if a manager wears a licensed fleece pull over or a jersey? He spends 99.9% of his time in the dugout! I’m no Red Sox fan, but I applaud Francona for throwing Watson out on his ass.

    1. The new Canucks unis are very good. They would have been better if the orca and the stick/rink logos were swapped, however. I’d have made the typeface on the Vancouver a little smaller, but that’s nitpicking.

    2. Waistline stripes on the jersey not meshing (har har) with the Reebok rounded hemline is 176% Reebok’s fault. There is absolutely no reason to have the rounded hemline, especially when it ruins traditional hockey jersey striping.

    3. The 49ers should return to the “Montana Era” jerseys full-time and permanently.

    4. As a resident of Boston, Terry Francona needs to take off that ugly pullover and start wearing a jersey pronto. The only thing that would look worse than him wearing that pullover is if they link to coach the team.

    5. God bless the MECCA Arena.

    I dont understand why everyone is hating on the orca C so much. Without a doubt the orca is the most common animal assosciated with the city and it is famous for its ocean wildlife. Compared to any other logo the Canucks have had as of yet the orca C is the only one that even remotely displays any sembelance of sanity and to me it has always seemed to fit the city and its identity…i dont see how a square with a line through it would have been better?

    The “VANCOUVER” on the front of the Canucks’ new sweaters is a shout-out to the old Vancouver Millionaires and the WHL Canucks of old, both of whom had “VANCOUVER” arched across the front of the jersey, with player numbers underneath.

    I would love the new jerseys had they not used such a large logo beneath the wordmark, and especially if they had used the old stick-rink-C logo instead, with no shoulder patches.

    That damn Reebok tail has got to got, though; it even sullies the excellent new sweaters of my beloved Bruins. They should at least match the bottom tail to the breezers, so it would blend in…

    Is there any reason Joe Torre and other Yankees coaches don’t have the “10” tribute to Phil Rizzuto on their sleeves? I’ve noticed the lack of the “10” the past two nights while watching the Sox/Yankees games.

    This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.

    [quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]
    Padres & White Sox also come to mind for multiple color schemes in baseball. There are many in the NBA like the Bucks, Cavs & Hawks to name just a few.

    [quote comment=”138410″]

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court and field designs…[/quote]

    court winner:
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    1st runner up:
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    i always liked the faux “netting” outlining the lanes in new jersey
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    i give a thumbs down to courts which utilize different color floor stains to highlight the perimeter from beyond the arch…
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    if you are gonna change floor stains, do it for the lane and the lane only…

    [quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.

    [quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]

    I think what they were getting at were “re-designs” of a teams identity. Such as when the Islanders whet from link to link. They are not counting the total amount of jersey designs they currently have. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    [quote comment=”138410″]

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court and field designs…[/quote]

    court winner:
    link

    1st runner up:
    link

    i always liked the faux “netting” outlining the lanes in new jersey
    link

    i give a thumbs down to courts which utilize different color floor stains to highlight the perimeter from beyond the arch…
    link

    if you are gonna change floor stains, do it for the lane and the lane only…

    Regarding the hurling helmets – I do know that one of the preferred helmets is an old style hockey/skating helmet that hasn’t been in production for almost 20 years. It was an old Cooper SK100 or SK200. It is basically a couple of pieces of plastic held together with a couple of screws and foam lining is like a denser styrofoam.

    The true originals seem to go for incredibly high amounts whenever offered on ebay, most of them going to Ireland for hurling as most of the descriptions usually are aimed at those players.

    It’s too bad I never scooped up some of the old hockey helmets that would be sitting in stock for years when I worked in an old sports shop – they’re worth a gold mine now

    here’s mine: Senators, Red Wings, Bruins, Rangers, Blue Jackets, Capitals, Lightning, Canucks, Predators, Panthers, Islanders.


    how could I forget the LA Kings’ wicked looking jersey. They could be rated before or after the Senators as best to worst.

    [quote comment=”138435″][quote comment=”138410″]

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court and field designs…[/quote]

    court winner:
    link

    1st runner up:
    link

    i always liked the faux “netting” outlining the lanes in new jersey
    link

    i give a thumbs down to courts which utilize different color floor stains to highlight the perimeter from beyond the arch…
    link

    if you are gonna change floor stains, do it for the lane and the lane only…[/quote]
    I think link uses different color stains pretty well. The parquet is a bit much, but I like the state outline.

    [quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    Since when is the Statue of Liberty in NJ?

    [quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.

    [quote comment=”138440″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    Since when is the Statue of Liberty in NJ?[/quote]

    Google Map it and check out where the state line is in the Upper New York Bay… It (and Ellis Island) actually sits in NJ’s waters.

    >Since when is the Statue of Liberty in NJ?

    I used to think the same thing myself. If you look on most maps, Liberty Island falls on to the west of the NY-NJ line.

    Turns out that NJ has never claimed jurisdiction over the dry land portion of Liberty Island, even though the submerged portions lie in NJ waters.

    [quote comment=”138439″][quote comment=”138435″][quote comment=”138410″]

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court and field designs…[/quote]

    court winner:
    link

    1st runner up:
    link

    i always liked the faux “netting” outlining the lanes in new jersey
    link

    i give a thumbs down to courts which utilize different color floor stains to highlight the perimeter from beyond the arch…
    link

    if you are gonna change floor stains, do it for the lane and the lane only…[/quote]
    I think link uses different color stains pretty well. The parquet is a bit much, but I like the state outline.[/quote]
    The best part of the A&M court is the “Texas” sized center logo

    [quote comment=”138435″][quote comment=”138410″]

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court and field designs…[/quote]

    court winner:
    link

    1st runner up:
    link

    i always liked the faux “netting” outlining the lanes in new jersey
    link

    i give a thumbs down to courts which utilize different color floor stains to highlight the perimeter from beyond the arch…
    link

    if you are gonna change floor stains, do it for the lane and the lane only…[/quote]

    Let’s not forget about link as a weird playing surface.

    [quote comment=”138440″]Since when is the Statue of Liberty in NJ?[/quote]

    Always has been . . . Liberty Island is in New York Harbor, but the NY/NJ state line runs through the harbor. Liberty Island is technically on the Jersey side of the harbor.

    The legs of the M’s on that Mecca card look too thick, perhaps to accommodate the aspect ratio of the card. Good photos of the floor are impossible to find on the web, but I have a lithograph at home…

    Great, great, floor.

    [quote comment=”138364″]As far as the new NHL jersey’s go, here’s how I would rank Vancouver in with all the other jersey’s that have been officially unveiled so far

    Bruins
    Red Wings
    Rangers
    Blue Jackets
    Senators
    Capitals
    Canucks
    Lightning
    Islangers
    Predators
    Panthers[/quote]

    That’s a very decent ranking…I can endorse that order.

    [quote comment=”138439″][quote comment=”138435″][quote comment=”138410″]

    Hey, there’s a thought… A column about weird and wonderful court and field designs…[/quote]

    court winner:
    link

    1st runner up:
    link

    i always liked the faux “netting” outlining the lanes in new jersey
    link

    i give a thumbs down to courts which utilize different color floor stains to highlight the perimeter from beyond the arch…
    link

    if you are gonna change floor stains, do it for the lane and the lane only…[/quote]
    I think link uses different color stains pretty well. The parquet is a bit much, but I like the state outline.[/quote]

    exactly right stuby. whether you use parquet or not, that is a nice floor based simply on those lanes…

    One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.

    [quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.

    [quote comment=”138442″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.[/quote]

    Point being they have changed there uniforms more than the Caps and Kings.

    [quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link

    [quote comment=”138467″][quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    link is a better picture.

    I’m trying to remember which NBA team had their 3-point area fade from one color one one side to a different color on the other. Was it the Charlotte Hornets? Truly a bad look, though.

    [quote comment=”138340″][quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]
    Yeah, but consistency counts (and this from a Yankees fan). . .Did Watson walk over to the Yankees dugout and reprimand Ron Guidry who was wearing a pullover and not a jersey? Torre might have been pullover-clad as well (He DEFINITELY was on Tuesday night!) No mention of that in the piece from the Post[/quote]

    link is the issue from the Boston Globe standpoint.

    ps – sorry for being away for so long. i’ve missed you guys, but work’s been hectic.

    [quote comment=”138461″][quote comment=”138442″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.[/quote]

    Point being they have changed there uniforms more than the Caps and Kings.[/quote]
    No they didn’t. They changed “crests.” The jerseys have been the same since the dawn of the team.

    [quote comment=”138409″]Sorry Matt Thompson, but the Colorado Caribou top my list of worst uniforms EVER!

    You are a brave man to have this uniform illustrated on you UniWatch membership card.[/quote]

    I am a true fan. Well, I was barely alive during their one season, but it was always a uniform legend in Colorado.

    Oh, and, as we all know, the actual name of the team was The Caribous of Colorado. Really. They had a sweet “Old West”-y frontier font worthy of Disney.

    [quote comment=”138474″][quote comment=”138461″][quote comment=”138442″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.[/quote]

    Point being they have changed there uniforms more than the Caps and Kings.[/quote]
    No they didn’t. They changed “crests.” The jerseys have been the same since the dawn of the team.[/quote]

    I don’t think the silver has been there since the dawn of the team. and isn’t the crest a big part of the jersey design any way?

    [quote comment=”138479″][quote comment=”138474″][quote comment=”138461″][quote comment=”138442″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.[/quote]

    Point being they have changed there uniforms more than the Caps and Kings.[/quote]
    No they didn’t. They changed “crests.” The jerseys have been the same since the dawn of the team.[/quote]

    I don’t think the silver has been there since the dawn of the team. and isn’t the crest a big part of the jersey design any way?[/quote]
    What silver? I’ve owned game worn Rangers jerseys from this century and don’t know what you’re talking about. Sure the crest is significant but to say they’ve changed more times than the Astros, Kings or Nucks is incorrect. Its not like they went from purple/gold to silver/black to purple/black.

    [quote comment=”138365″][quote comment=”138329″]A source in the Rangers’ clubhouse reports… The source also offers this bit of news: “A promising development for next season — we’re most likely going to use the Cool Base material for our sleeveless jerseys, which would provide the benefits of the cooler material without the weird underarm gussets.” …[/quote]

    i still dont get this cool base jersey situation. will someone please explain it to me?

    ok, i understand the material and its benefits with moisture and cooling and all its technology.

    but if its such a good material, why arent all jerseys (home, road, alternates) made with the cool base material? why just 1 of the jerseys?
    it makes no sense!

    i refuse to accept cost as an answer, i mean, its the freakin major leagues![/quote]

    Cost has nothing to do with it. All the regular road gray unis aren’t made in COOLBASE because Majestic can’t match the gray COOLBASE material to the gray of any of the teams’ doubleknits. Absolutely bush-league, since Majestic has had a couple of years to get it right.

    Bill Henderson has a great write-up about the COOLBASE game jerseys in his Style Guide. Incidentally, the game jerseys are NOT the same material as the COOLBASE batting jerseys. Henderson says the difference between COOLBASE game jersey material and doubleknit is pretty significant (he has a closeup photo to point this out), and the COOLBASE jerseys really are more comfortable in the heat.

    Some teams aren’t going to switch to COOLBASE for obvious reasons (the Yanks didn’t like the underarm gussets ruining the look of the pinstripes and the Astros have no need for them in an indoor ballpark). But every team should at least have the option, and until Majestic gets their act together and makes a “suitable” gray jersey, then only whites and alts will be available in COOLBASE.

    Paul must not have seen this change because it’s purple. But apparently Northwestern is changing their number font from link to link.

    In other purple news, the Northwestern wikipedia entry notes that Northwestern’s mascot used to be “The Purple” like Harvard is the crimson. And in the 70’s students voted to change the name from wildcats to “Purple Haze”, which seems sweet to me. Obviously it didn’t stick, lucky for you Paul.

    Go Cats!

    [quote comment=”138481″][quote comment=”138479″][quote comment=”138474″][quote comment=”138461″][quote comment=”138442″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.[/quote]

    Point being they have changed there uniforms more than the Caps and Kings.[/quote]
    No they didn’t. They changed “crests.” The jerseys have been the same since the dawn of the team.[/quote]

    I don’t think the silver has been there since the dawn of the team. and isn’t the crest a big part of the jersey design any way?[/quote]
    What silver? I’ve owned game worn Rangers jerseys from this century and don’t know what you’re talking about. Sure the crest is significant but to say they’ve changed more times than the Astros, Kings or Nucks is incorrect. Its not like they went from purple/gold to silver/black to purple/black.[/quote]

    The Rangers word mark sweater has horizontal sleeve stripes, The New York crest sweater had vertical stripes and the numbers did not have drop shadows or borders. The Liberty crest sweater had diagonal stripes, red forearms and a lot of silver as well as a much darker shade of blue. NOT the same uniforms since the beginning.

    I love link uniform.

    Busy, sure, but it is so so classic with the VANCOUVER in simple letters above the C-Orca. Then the hockey stick C on the shoulders and shorts (where a swoosh or other branding typically goes).

    The colors are aquatically simple…

    I love this jersey.

    It’s not impossible that it doesn’t have something to do it’s similarities to link.

    Love live the Whale.

    This is my list:
    Bruins
    Red Wings
    Rangers
    Canucks
    Blue Jackets
    Lightning
    Kings
    Senators
    Capitals
    Islanders
    Predators
    Panthers

    Basically anything that’s traditional enough to not include different colored sidepanels or puppetstrings has been winning points with me… I didn’t realize how much i hate the “whale tail” until i saw the wings/canucks sweater.

    I still like the red, gold and black Vancouver uniforms with the skate logo the best.

    Field designs…Hmm, Tennessee football’s checkerboard end zones might make for a neat card.

    Two things:

    Francona – I seem to remember seeing him start ing to wear the jersey under the pullover when MLB first made a big deal about managers not wearing jerseys last month. It was on a nationally televised game, and I remember seeing the jersey through the neck line of the fleece.

    ESPN Column Note, The W Cap from the Nats Game – Wasn’t that one of the prototype caps that the “Bring Baseball Back To Washington” group was using as a potential logo for a team (expansion or otherwise)? Or was that a part of that initial run of prototype merchandise for the Nats after the move was announced but no new name or official colors had been decided upon? I remember that the folks in DC were selling Washington Baseball stuff right after the move went through, but I don’t remember if the stuff was in Expos colors or not.

    In terms of calling for the stick being the main logo for Canucks jersey, Great nostalgia, great as a should patch, Would love it it they return the vintage jersey as a third when they can.

    For that to be the main logo on the regular jerseys? As much as it would go well here, I’m thinking to myself a logo that makes makes the CH of Montreal or B of Boston look complex. Would the nostagia of it run out and as result the Canucks be stuck with a really simple logo?

    Granted Vancouver isn’t Nashville, but especially given the history of the Canucks jerseys I’m not too sure the love would last forever.

    I know Paul’s not reading this, but nice column today. You forgot to mention Texas A&M has switched to Adidas this year. They added the number outline, and also added pants striping. Somethign they haven’t had in a while.

    [quote comment=”138488″]I love link uniform.

    Busy, sure, but it is so so classic with the VANCOUVER in simple letters above the C-Orca. Then the hockey stick C on the shoulders and shorts (where a swoosh or other branding typically goes).

    The colors are aquatically simple…

    I love this jersey.

    It’s not impossible that it doesn’t have something to do it’s similarities to link.

    Love live the Whale.[/quote]

    First of all talk about a double negative. Oh man, it took me about 3 reads to get what you were saying and I’m still not sure I understand.

    Just asking for clarification here but, what does “aquatically simple” mean? Meaning they are “water-related” colors but are simple? I don’t know how a color can be “simple” unless you are using all primary colors, which they are not.

    I don’t think it’s such an awful jersey either but nothing is classic about it except for the elbow stripes and hemline stripe. The rest (wierd neckline, the odd font on the sleeve numbers, shoulder patches, logo) is very modernized.

    I don’t love this uniform, especially the “Vancouver” workmark above the logo, but it’s not awful.

    [quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]

    Francona has well-documented circulation problems, which have been referenced numerous times (see link in comment #93) as a reason why he eschews wearing the jersey. So you might want to rethink your tough guy traditionalist stance. If Barry Bonds can get a medical exemption to wear a piece of freaking armor on his elbow I don’t see what the big deal about a manager not wearing a jersey.

    If the issue for Watson and MLB is the standard tripe about “respecting the game” why did they choose to interfere with Francona’s managing while the game was being played? Where was the respect for the game there?

    [quote comment=”138440″][quote comment=”138430″]
    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    Since when is the Statue of Liberty in NJ?[/quote]

    First off, the Rangers have (like all teams right now) 2 jerseys – home & away. Any talk of recent changes or 3rd jerseys doesn’t really apply going forward (though I’d expect to see the Lady Liberty return). I think the previous poster was talking about a lack of consistency/identity (i.e. changes in color, overall style/design, etc.). I think the NYR jerseys are pretty recognizable & fit with the team identity, even if you DO include any alternate jerseys.

    Statue of Liberty in NJ? No. Liberty Island is within the territorial jurisdiction of the State of New York, a status that was established in 1664, reaffirmed in 1834, and which has never been officially disputed. The island has been owned by the federal government since 1800. The belief that Liberty Island is “in” New Jersey could be a mistaken inference from three facts: Liberty Island’s proximity to Jersey City; its appearance on maps on the New Jersey side of the state line; New Jersey’s victory in a 1998 lawsuit with New York over the ownership of parts of Ellis Island. The islands of New York harbor have been part of New York since the issuance in 1664 of the colonial charter that created New Jersey. An 1834 compact between New York and New Jersey, which primarily concerned the status of Staten Island, set the boundary line between the States as the middle of the Hudson River but reaffirmed that Staten Island and the other islands belonged to New York.

    Great follow up article on Francona and his jersey issue. Guess he has his reasons for not having worn a jersey until now. Great photo of him and Watson too:
    link

    [quote comment=”138484″][quote comment=”138481″][quote comment=”138479″][quote comment=”138474″][quote comment=”138461″][quote comment=”138442″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.[/quote]

    Point being they have changed there uniforms more than the Caps and Kings.[/quote]
    No they didn’t. They changed “crests.” The jerseys have been the same since the dawn of the team.[/quote]

    I don’t think the silver has been there since the dawn of the team. and isn’t the crest a big part of the jersey design any way?[/quote]
    What silver? I’ve owned game worn Rangers jerseys from this century and don’t know what you’re talking about. Sure the crest is significant but to say they’ve changed more times than the Astros, Kings or Nucks is incorrect. Its not like they went from purple/gold to silver/black to purple/black.[/quote]

    The Rangers word mark sweater has horizontal sleeve stripes, The New York crest sweater had vertical stripes and the numbers did not have drop shadows or borders. The Liberty crest sweater had diagonal stripes, red forearms and a lot of silver as well as a much darker shade of blue. NOT the same uniforms since the beginning.[/quote]
    Whew! You’re right about the link, watch out for all that silver! As for the standard homes/roads, you’re saying that switching to a design, then switching back to the original design constitutes the number of changes that Vancouver or LA has had? Just want to make sure I understand you’re flawed logic…

    [quote comment=”138484″][quote comment=”138481″][quote comment=”138479″][quote comment=”138474″][quote comment=”138461″][quote comment=”138442″][quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    The Rangers don’t use the “New York” diagonally anymore. They only used that from 78-87. Also the NY shield was only used for 2 years (76-78). But they did have a white and blue Liberty alternate at one point recently. The rest of the jersey aside from these minor differences has been the same. I fail to see your point.[/quote]
    Point being they have changed there uniforms more than the Caps and Kings.[/quote]
    No they didn’t. They changed “crests.” The jerseys have been the same since the dawn of the team.[/quote]
    I don’t think the silver has been there since the dawn of the team. and isn’t the crest a big part of the jersey design any way?[/quote]
    What silver? I’ve owned game worn Rangers jerseys from this century and don’t know what you’re talking about. Sure the crest is significant but to say they’ve changed more times than the Astros, Kings or Nucks is incorrect. Its not like they went from purple/gold to silver/black to purple/black.[/quote]

    The Rangers word mark sweater has horizontal sleeve stripes, The New York crest sweater had vertical stripes and the numbers did not have drop shadows or borders. The Liberty crest sweater had diagonal stripes, red forearms and a lot of silver as well as a much darker shade of blue. NOT the same uniforms since the beginning.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”138440″][quote comment=”138430″]
    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]
    Since when is the Statue of Liberty in NJ?[/quote]

    First off, the Rangers have (like all teams right now) 2 jerseys – home & away. Any talk of recent changes or 3rd jerseys doesn’t really apply going forward (though I’d expect to see the Lady Liberty return). I think the previous poster was talking about a lack of consistency/identity (i.e. changes in color, overall style/design, etc.). I think the NYR jerseys are pretty recognizable & fit with the team identity, even if you DO include any alternate jerseys.

    At this point, Marty Met, I think you’re looking for something here. Lots of teams have had 3rd jerseys or minor modifications, but NYR have remained red, white, and blue. A team like the Caps has gone from the old r/w/b star uniforms to the blue Eagle, to the Black Capital building… The Kings have gone from purple and gold to black and silver, then bringing back some purple, etc. It was about a lack of identity, not just going back and trying to catalog all jersey changes. Incidentially, the primary Rangers jersey has been mostly unchanged for 80+ years.

    Statue of Liberty in NJ? No. Liberty Island is within the territorial jurisdiction of the State of New York, a status that was established in 1664, reaffirmed in 1834, and which has never been officially disputed. The island has been owned by the federal government since 1800. The belief that Liberty Island is “in” New Jersey could be a mistaken inference from three facts: Liberty Island’s proximity to Jersey City; its appearance on maps on the New Jersey side of the state line; New Jersey’s victory in a 1998 lawsuit with New York over the ownership of parts of Ellis Island. The islands of New York harbor have been part of New York since the issuance in 1664 of the colonial charter that created New Jersey. An 1834 compact between New York and New Jersey, which primarily concerned the status of Staten Island, set the boundary line between the States as the middle of the Hudson River but reaffirmed that Staten Island and the other islands belonged to New York.

    Sorry for the repost on the boston globe article, didn’t realize someone else had posted it

    [quote comment=”138500″][quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]

    Francona has well-documented circulation problems, which have been referenced numerous times (see link in comment #93) as a reason why he eschews wearing the jersey. So you might want to rethink your tough guy traditionalist stance. If Barry Bonds can get a medical exemption to wear a piece of freaking armor on his elbow I don’t see what the big deal about a manager not wearing a jersey.

    If the issue for Watson and MLB is the standard tripe about “respecting the game” why did they choose to interfere with Francona’s managing while the game was being played? Where was the respect for the game there?[/quote]

    Completely agree with you. Bob Watson coming INTO the dugout during a game (not even during a break in the game) was unprofessional and uncalled for.

    Of course, I can’t stand the fact that managers have to wear uniforms in the first place. Why not let them wear suits? Why not let them link like link (well the link ones anyway)?

    Sure it would be a bit wierd for a while, but it’s gotta be better than a grown man going out to the mound looking like link.

    [quote comment=”138502″]Great follow up article on Francona and his jersey issue. Guess he has his reasons for not having worn a jersey until now. Great photo of him and Watson too:
    link

    It’s not like the guy is going to go out and sub at SS or pinch hit. Why does he have to have a uniform at all?

    [quote comment=”138468″][quote comment=”138467″][quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    link is a better picture.[/quote]
    thanks for the pic, I wanted to include it in my post, but couldn’t find one, guess I was looking in all the link

    So, are the Canucks on heroine?! Why not just take EVERY iteration of their logos over the years and splatter them all over the new uniforms? I like the stick-and-rink as a secondary, along with the original color scheme, but do the home unis need to remind fans what city they’re in? It’s just too damn much! And I’m not even gonna touch the whole Orca issue…

    [quote comment=”138484″]The Rangers word mark sweater has horizontal sleeve stripes, The New York crest sweater had vertical stripes and the numbers did not have drop shadows or borders. The Liberty crest sweater had diagonal stripes, red forearms and a lot of silver as well as a much darker shade of blue. NOT the same uniforms since the beginning.[/quote]

    This is one of the dumber arguements I’ve ever seen here. A few diffences in shadows or stripes and some different colors on an alt is hardly ” radically altering their uni-look multiple times during their existence.”

    [quote comment=”138502″]Great follow up article on Francona and his jersey issue. Guess he has his reasons for not having worn a jersey until now. Great photo of him and Watson too:
    link
    Just to clarify . . .I think everyone needs to respect the current uniform standards (I was going to say “tradition of the game”, but didn’t want the deluge of ‘Walter Alston and Connie Mack didn’t wear uniforms’). John Gibbons in Toronto, Terry Francona in Boston and ever other baseball professional who appears on the field during the game (which is the distinction here between baseball and the other major sports . . . no one wants to see Don Nelson in a tank top and shorts!) should be wearing the uniform of the game.

    That being said, to approach a manager in the middle of a game, in the middle of an inning is woefully inappropriate and disrespectful to the game itself. As Susyn Waldman put it on the opening to today’s Yankees/Red Sox game on the radio, “MLB has games that are starting at 11:05 pm EDT, and they’re worrying over whether or not Terry Francona’s wearing his uniform top?”

    Give me a break!

    [quote comment=”138515″]More creative court designs, once again from the land of the blue turf:
    link

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    [quote comment=”138514″][quote comment=”138468″][quote comment=”138467″][quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    link is a better picture.[/quote]
    thanks for the pic, I wanted to include it in my post, but couldn’t find one, guess I was looking in all the link[/quote]

    Broker you gotta throw a NSFW on that, people(including me) blindly click links on this site because we rarely have NSFW stuff

    [quote comment=”138518″]As Susyn Waldman put it on the opening to today’s Yankees/Red Sox game on the radio, “MLB has games that are starting at 11:05 pm EDT, and they’re worrying over whether or not Terry Francona’s wearing his uniform top?”
    [/quote]

    What does one have to do with the other?

    [quote comment=”138520″][quote comment=”138514″][quote comment=”138468″][quote comment=”138467″][quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    link is a better picture.[/quote]
    thanks for the pic, I wanted to include it in my post, but couldn’t find one, guess I was looking in all the link[/quote]

    Broker you gotta throw a NSFW on that, people(including me) blindly click links on this site because we rarely have NSFW stuff[/quote]

    Yeah, it got me too. Funny though…I got a good chuckle out of it.

    [quote comment=”138499″][quote comment=”138488″]I love link uniform.

    Busy, sure, but it is so so classic with the VANCOUVER in simple letters above the C-Orca. Then the hockey stick C on the shoulders and shorts (where a swoosh or other branding typically goes).

    The colors are aquatically simple…

    I love this jersey.

    It’s not impossible that it doesn’t have something to do it’s similarities to link.

    Love live the Whale.[/quote]

    First of all talk about a double negative. Oh man, it took me about 3 reads to get what you were saying and I’m still not sure I understand.

    Just asking for clarification here but, what does “aquatically simple” mean? Meaning they are “water-related” colors but are simple? I don’t know how a color can be “simple” unless you are using all primary colors, which they are not.

    I don’t think it’s such an awful jersey either but nothing is classic about it except for the elbow stripes and hemline stripe. The rest (wierd neckline, the odd font on the sleeve numbers, shoulder patches, logo) is very modernized.

    I don’t love this uniform, especially the “Vancouver” workmark above the logo, but it’s not awful.[/quote]

    That’s why my post wasn’t about why you love the uniform.

    The double negative was intentional and the colors blue and green recall the ocean without leaving the basic Crayon box.

    I realize that these particular shades may be custom or not, but it’s still a blue and green uniform.

    Simple.

    Classic.

    I love it!

    [quote comment=”138507″][quote comment=”138505″]link[/quote]
    Also mentioned in the article is a special patch???[/quote]

    Maybe a 40th anniversary patch?

    Why wouldn’t the Canucks put “Canucks” on their home jerseys instead of the city name? I’m guessing their fans already know where they live. That’s what the Bruins are doing with the new shoulder crests on their jerseys… “Bruins” at home, “Boston” on the road. Makes sense.

    The first line of the Penn pulling a Winsconsin article reads “flattery is the sincerest form of imitation”. I’m no English major, but I do believe the phrase goes “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”.

    [quote comment=”138521″][quote comment=”138518″]As Susyn Waldman put it on the opening to today’s Yankees/Red Sox game on the radio, “MLB has games that are starting at 11:05 pm EDT, and they’re worrying over whether or not Terry Francona’s wearing his uniform top?”
    [/quote]

    What does one have to do with the other?[/quote]

    I took it to mean that the umpires are doing things that are not in the best interest of the game (see: Yankees @ Detroit 8/24) but the powers that be are worried about dugout personnel’s dress standards.

    I gotta say, I really don’t understand why baseball coaches wear the uniform in the first place, rather than a suit or a polo or something. It’s always looked to me as A)They were still living in their glory days and pretending they were actually playing, or B) They fully intended to run on the field and play in case one of their guys got hurt.

    I also think that coaches and managers should be distinct from their players- in my opinion, it’s a matter of authority- I’m the coach, you’re the player, we’re not on equal footing.

    [quote comment=”138430″][quote comment=”138427″]This travesty in Vancouver has got me thinking about why certain franchises feel compelled to radically alter their uni-look multiple times during their existence. Yes, the majority of teams will make changes now and again, but just think through the uni-history of these franchises:

    Vancouver Canucks
    Washington Capitals
    Los Angeles Kings
    Houston Astros

    (There’s probably some NBA teams that should be added, but I haven’t paid close enough attention.)

    Multiple logos, multiple color schemes – no clear identity. (Also no championships, but that has nothing to do with the argument.)

    And listen up, Arizona D-backs, Phoenix Coyotes, and Anaheim Ducks. These teams just feel like they could go down the same fuschia and teal alley.[/quote]

    The Rangers (blech!!) have more jersey designs than the Kings or the Caps. Statue of Liberty (even though the real statue is in New Jersey); Crest; Rangers word mark diagnally; New York word mark diagnally.[/quote]

    sounds like ur from new jersey which would make u a devils fan. the rangers may have changed our jerseys but at least we didt have to move the team a couple of times, Kansas city scouts,Colorado Rockies

    [quote comment=”138344″]The various hurling helmets have something to do with lack of funds, but the helmet is also not considered a part of the standard uniform. It’s totally optional for players over 21. So I liken it to NBA players wearing different wristbands, or MLBers wearing different batting gloves.[/quote]

    Yeah, I was over in ireland a week or two ago and had the same thoughts. Under 21’s though have to wear helmets with facemask by rule. A very interesting game. Whats even more interesting is that Gaelic football and hurling are played on the exact same field. Same markings, same way to score etc. And as a last thought, anyone playing hurling WITHOUT a helmet and facemask is probably crazier than an NHL goalie not wearing one. Those guys have no fear.

    [quote comment=”138512″][quote comment=”138500″][quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]

    Francona has well-documented circulation problems, which have been referenced numerous times (see link in comment #93) as a reason why he eschews wearing the jersey. So you might want to rethink your tough guy traditionalist stance. If Barry Bonds can get a medical exemption to wear a piece of freaking armor on his elbow I don’t see what the big deal about a manager not wearing a jersey.

    If the issue for Watson and MLB is the standard tripe about “respecting the game” why did they choose to interfere with Francona’s managing while the game was being played? Where was the respect for the game there?[/quote]

    Completely agree with you. Bob Watson coming INTO the dugout during a game (not even during a break in the game) was unprofessional and uncalled for.

    Of course, I can’t stand the fact that managers have to wear uniforms in the first place. Why not let them wear suits? Why not let them link like link (well the link ones anyway)?

    Sure it would be a bit wierd for a while, but it’s gotta be better than a grown man going out to the mound looking like link.[/quote]

    By “grown” man, do you mean fat? Because it’s not like the players are a bunch of little kids. And an old guy can look fine in a baseball uniform if he doesn’t have a huge gut (this would not apply to a basketball jersey).

    [quote comment=”138502″]Great follow up article on Francona and his jersey issue. Guess he has his reasons for not having worn a jersey until now. Great photo of him and Watson too:
    link
    Nice hat with your suit there, Bob.

    [quote comment=”138491″]I still like the red, gold and black Vancouver uniforms with the skate logo the best.

    Field designs…Hmm, Tennessee football’s checkerboard end zones might make for a neat card.[/quote]

    very nice..
    link

    But baseball coaches and to a lesser degree managers DO take the field before the game to hit fungoes and watch the players during batting practice. We see basketball and football coaches all the time in shorts and T-shirts when they are conducting practices and drills. Could baseball managers and coaches wear more formal attire during the game? Sure. But I find no problem with their wearing uniforms.

    [quote comment=”138482″][quote comment=”138365″][quote comment=”138329″]A source in the Rangers’ clubhouse reports… The source also offers this bit of news: “A promising development for next season — we’re most likely going to use the Cool Base material for our sleeveless jerseys, which would provide the benefits of the cooler material without the weird underarm gussets.” …[/quote]

    i still dont get this cool base jersey situation. will someone please explain it to me?

    ok, i understand the material and its benefits with moisture and cooling and all its technology.

    but if its such a good material, why arent all jerseys (home, road, alternates) made with the cool base material? why just 1 of the jerseys?
    it makes no sense!

    i refuse to accept cost as an answer, i mean, its the freakin major leagues![/quote]

    Cost has nothing to do with it. All the regular road gray unis aren’t made in COOLBASE because Majestic can’t match the gray COOLBASE material to the gray of any of the teams’ doubleknits. Absolutely bush-league, since Majestic has had a couple of years to get it right.

    Bill Henderson has a great write-up about the COOLBASE game jerseys in his Style Guide. Incidentally, the game jerseys are NOT the same material as the COOLBASE batting jerseys. Henderson says the difference between COOLBASE game jersey material and doubleknit is pretty significant (he has a closeup photo to point this out), and the COOLBASE jerseys really are more comfortable in the heat.

    Some teams aren’t going to switch to COOLBASE for obvious reasons (the Yanks didn’t like the underarm gussets ruining the look of the pinstripes and the Astros have no need for them in an indoor ballpark). But every team should at least have the option, and until Majestic gets their act together and makes a “suitable” gray jersey, then only whites and alts will be available in COOLBASE.[/quote]

    thanks for the response. ive been wondering this for a while. cant get it to match though?
    thats a bunch of horse shit.

    i would say to majestic, get it together, or we’re shopping the apparell contract. gussets should be pinstriped and match up with the underarm stripes, colors should match, all jerseys should be coolbase. its freaking 2007 for crissake!

    [quote comment=”138529″]The first line of the Penn pulling a Winsconsin article reads “flattery is the sincerest form of imitation”. I’m no English major, but I do believe the phrase goes “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”.[/quote]

    Penn State, two different schools.

    When I first read that I thought that Penn State was going to have a “one and done” jersey like Wisky, because that is what people had been talking about all week. I almost had a stroke.

    [quote comment=”138345″]The Vancouver unis don’t even work as t-shirts. They are ugly, and I agree that the lower stripe does not look good on the rounded hemlines of the jerseys.

    Hey! I’m back from England, y’all. I only watched one footy game on the telly, and it was only a friendly between England and Germany. Nothing much to report in terms of unis.

    However, in the Chicago O’Hare airport, there were pink caps a’plenty. Even though I am the supposed target audience for such cappery (yes, I just made up that word), looking at them made me want to scream. I hate pink.[/quote]
    Actually, doesn’t Nike now outfit the DFB (the German soccer team, or Deutschland Fussball Bund)? Or am I jumping the gun and that’s a year or so down the road?

    Regarding the ESPN column, what’s up with Bowling Green’s helmet change? The old Falcon logo was very identifiable, especially considering they are a smaller school. I don’t get the change to a totally bland ‘BG’ logo.

    [quote comment=”138520″][quote comment=”138514″][quote comment=”138468″][quote comment=”138467″][quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    link is a better picture.[/quote]
    thanks for the pic, I wanted to include it in my post, but couldn’t find one, guess I was looking in all the link[/quote]

    Broker you gotta throw a NSFW on that, people(including me) blindly click links on this site because we rarely have NSFW stuff[/quote]
    If I knew what NSFW meant, I probably would’ve..

    [quote comment=”138551″][quote comment=”138520″][quote comment=”138514″][quote comment=”138468″][quote comment=”138467″][quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    link is a better picture.[/quote]
    thanks for the pic, I wanted to include it in my post, but couldn’t find one, guess I was looking in all the link[/quote]

    Broker you gotta throw a NSFW on that, people(including me) blindly click links on this site because we rarely have NSFW stuff[/quote]
    If I knew what NSFW meant, I probably would’ve..[/quote]

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    [quote comment=”138548″][quote comment=”138345″]The Vancouver unis don’t even work as t-shirts. They are ugly, and I agree that the lower stripe does not look good on the rounded hemlines of the jerseys.

    Hey! I’m back from England, y’all. I only watched one footy game on the telly, and it was only a friendly between England and Germany. Nothing much to report in terms of unis.

    However, in the Chicago O’Hare airport, there were pink caps a’plenty. Even though I am the supposed target audience for such cappery (yes, I just made up that word), looking at them made me want to scream. I hate pink.[/quote]
    Actually, doesn’t Nike now outfit the DFB (the German soccer team, or Deutschland Fussball Bund)? Or am I jumping the gun and that’s a year or so down the road?[/quote]
    As of linkGermany still wore adidas.

    [quote comment=”138551″]
    If I knew what NSFW meant, I probably would’ve..[/quote]

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    [quote comment=”138548″][quote comment=”138345″]The Vancouver unis don’t even work as t-shirts. They are ugly, and I agree that the lower stripe does not look good on the rounded hemlines of the jerseys.

    Hey! I’m back from England, y’all. I only watched one footy game on the telly, and it was only a friendly between England and Germany. Nothing much to report in terms of unis.

    However, in the Chicago O’Hare airport, there were pink caps a’plenty. Even though I am the supposed target audience for such cappery (yes, I just made up that word), looking at them made me want to scream. I hate pink.[/quote]
    Actually, doesn’t Nike now outfit the DFB (the German soccer team, or Deutschland Fussball Bund)? Or am I jumping the gun and that’s a year or so down the road?[/quote]

    Nike had offered a giant contract, like 500 mil or something, but just within the last few days the re-signed with adidas through 2018 i think. I don’t think the adidas contract is worth as much though.

    [quote comment=”138548″][quote comment=”138345″]The Vancouver unis don’t even work as t-shirts. They are ugly, and I agree that the lower stripe does not look good on the rounded hemlines of the jerseys.

    Hey! I’m back from England, y’all. I only watched one footy game on the telly, and it was only a friendly between England and Germany. Nothing much to report in terms of unis.

    However, in the Chicago O’Hare airport, there were pink caps a’plenty. Even though I am the supposed target audience for such cappery (yes, I just made up that word), looking at them made me want to scream. I hate pink.[/quote]
    Actually, doesn’t Nike now outfit the DFB (the German soccer team, or Deutschland Fussball Bund)? Or am I jumping the gun and that’s a year or so down the road?[/quote]

    DFB just reupped their Adidas contract through 2018. link

    [quote comment=”138555″][quote comment=”138551″][quote comment=”138520″][quote comment=”138514″][quote comment=”138468″][quote comment=”138467″][quote comment=”138459″][quote comment=”138456″]One of the field designs that stick in my mind was when the Mets designed their outfield of the skyline. Was it painted? cut that way? It was truely amazing. I used to work as a grounds crew on a golf course and had a different design everyday. We used the same seed for our greens as the Washington Redskins used for their playing field at RFK.[/quote]

    I agree, I thought it was amazing that they were able to do it, I just didn’t like the way that it looked on TV.[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    link is a better picture.[/quote]
    thanks for the pic, I wanted to include it in my post, but couldn’t find one, guess I was looking in all the link[/quote]

    Broker you gotta throw a NSFW on that, people(including me) blindly click links on this site because we rarely have NSFW stuff[/quote]
    If I knew what NSFW meant, I probably would’ve..[/quote]

    Not
    Safe
    For
    Work[/quote]
    gotcha, but I gotta admit I guessed: NOT Safe For Woman.

    (1) The Celtics’ floor is great, but if you’re going to do it right, do it like they did in the ’80s, with the half-court logo being in green and white only. And get rid of those “TD Banknorth Garden” labels behind the baskets.

    (2) Sure, McGillicuddy never wore a uniform, but he never dressed like a slob, either.

    I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that the Canucks are owned by a group named Orca Bay. With that name, there’s no way in heck Shamu was coming off the jerseys.

    Also, the MECCA design: the lithograph and the floor design aren’t quite the same. The Bucks and MECCA officials made some minor changes to make the design fit better with the rules and to get the MECCA logotype on the floor.

    [quote comment=”138567″]I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that the Canucks are owned by a group named Orca Bay. With that name, there’s no way in heck Shamu was coming off the jerseys.[/quote]

    Actually Orca Bay was bought out in Novemeber 2006, which fueled the speculation that the orca would be removed from the jersey as part of the relaunch.

    [quote comment=”138528″]Why wouldn’t the Canucks put “Canucks” on their home jerseys instead of the city name? I’m guessing their fans already know where they live. That’s what the Bruins are doing with the new shoulder crests on their jerseys… “Bruins” at home, “Boston” on the road. Makes sense.[/quote]

    The arched Vancouver wordmark is a specific historic reference to the original Vancouver hockey teams; the Millionaires and WHL Canucks. “VANCOUVER” for the Millionaires, the Arch for the WHL Canucks:

    link

    link

    link

    from the Penguins website: “After more than two years of research, the NHL and Reebok created a uniform system that features technologically-enhanced materials and fabrics that are more breathable, more water-resistant, more comfortable and more compatible with equipment”-> and sometimes putrid looking.

    [quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]

    I think that it is a joke that Bob Watson would enter the dugout during a critical game, or any game for that matter, to “check to see if Francona is wearing his jersey”. Whether you choose to believe Francona or not is your call but the man has had nearly 20 knee surgeries, lately some of them have caused complications with his circulation. He stated that it is simply uncomfortable to tuck the jersey in around his waiste and down to his knees and legs. I think Bob and his cronies at MLB have much bigger fish to fry than what the coaching staff is wearing. Good pick for your hero!

    [quote comment=”138542″][quote comment=”138482″][quote comment=”138365″][quote comment=”138329″]A source in the Rangers’ clubhouse reports… The source also offers this bit of news: “A promising development for next season — we’re most likely going to use the Cool Base material for our sleeveless jerseys, which would provide the benefits of the cooler material without the weird underarm gussets.” …[/quote]

    i still dont get this cool base jersey situation. will someone please explain it to me?

    ok, i understand the material and its benefits with moisture and cooling and all its technology.

    but if its such a good material, why arent all jerseys (home, road, alternates) made with the cool base material? why just 1 of the jerseys?
    it makes no sense!

    i refuse to accept cost as an answer, i mean, its the freakin major leagues![/quote]

    Cost has nothing to do with it. All the regular road gray unis aren’t made in COOLBASE because Majestic can’t match the gray COOLBASE material to the gray of any of the teams’ doubleknits. Absolutely bush-league, since Majestic has had a couple of years to get it right.

    Bill Henderson has a great write-up about the COOLBASE game jerseys in his Style Guide. Incidentally, the game jerseys are NOT the same material as the COOLBASE batting jerseys. Henderson says the difference between COOLBASE game jersey material and doubleknit is pretty significant (he has a closeup photo to point this out), and the COOLBASE jerseys really are more comfortable in the heat.

    Some teams aren’t going to switch to COOLBASE for obvious reasons (the Yanks didn’t like the underarm gussets ruining the look of the pinstripes and the Astros have no need for them in an indoor ballpark). But every team should at least have the option, and until Majestic gets their act together and makes a “suitable” gray jersey, then only whites and alts will be available in COOLBASE.[/quote]

    thanks for the response. ive been wondering this for a while. cant get it to match though?
    thats a bunch of horse shit.

    i would say to majestic, get it together, or we’re shopping the apparell contract. gussets should be pinstriped and match up with the underarm stripes, colors should match, all jerseys should be coolbase. its freaking 2007 for crissake![/quote]

    It IS absolutely horse shit! The unfortunate part is that Majestic has the contract for a few more years (until after the 2009 or 2010 season) and it seems MLB is more concerned with their managers being dressed “properly” than their players being dressed “correctly” (i.e. using their alt jerseys as an alternative, not as a primary).

    And Majestic are a complete pain-in-the-ass to deal with, so I hope MLB goes back to Russell or Rawlings.

    [quote comment=”138528″]Why wouldn’t the Canucks put “Canucks” on their home jerseys instead of the city name? I’m guessing their fans already know where they live. That’s what the Bruins are doing with the new shoulder crests on their jerseys… “Bruins” at home, “Boston” on the road. Makes sense.[/quote]

    I’m guessing that their fans already know the team nickname is the Canucks (or Burins), too.

    OK, I’m done being a smartass.

    [quote comment=”138570″]from the Penguins website: “After more than two years of research, the NHL and Reebok created a uniform system that features technologically-enhanced materials and fabrics that are more breathable, more water-resistant, more comfortable and more compatible with equipment”-> and sometimes putrid looking.[/quote]

    “and completely incompatible with any reasonable sense of style or tradition.”

    [quote comment=”138469″]MLB never told link to wear a uniform.[/quote]

    I don’t think that Connie Mack every wore a smock in the dugout, however.

    [quote comment=”138583″][quote comment=”138469″]MLB never told link to wear a uniform.[/quote]

    I don’t think that Connie Mack every wore a smock in the dugout, however.[/quote]

    Love the guys in the background wearing suits, too. Am I allowed to say they’re “classy?”

    [quote comment=”138571″]Whether you choose to believe Francona or not is your call but the man has had nearly 20 knee surgeries, lately some of them have caused complications with his circulation. He stated that it is simply uncomfortable to tuck the jersey in around his waiste and down to his knees and legs. [/quote]

    Francona wears a jersey that reaches his knees? That’s quite a jersey. Perhaps he could wear one that is not quite so long.

    Good luck to the 49ers in their quest to wear the throwbacks all season. Didn’t the Bills try a couple seasons ago to wear their 60’s throwbacks for more than 2 games, and the NFL didn’t give them permission? Didn’t the NFL have a policy on how many times throwbacks could be worn? If this was all true, I’d imagine the 49ers will run into the same problem. After all, this is the same league that clamped down on small-scale tributes to Johnny Unitas (Manning’s shoes) and coaches wearing suits (at least until this year).

    BTW, I’m of the opinion they should go to the throwbacks full-time. It actually looks like a higher-quality team on the field, simply because they’re wearing the uniforms that the Niners’ best teams wore. I’d imagine most 49er fans would agree: if the NFL wanted some positive PR in the San Fran area, this might help.

    About 20 years ago, I was at the mall and they had one of those make-your-own greeting card booths, featuring NFL team logos. The one they had for the Giants was interesting, to say the least. It was a large red apple with an outline of the New York skyline superimposed over it. The booth was taken away before long and I never saw this logo again. Even the Giants themselves say they don’t remember it, but I saw it so it existed for a short while. Can any of you tell me the story behind it?

    [quote comment=”138586″]Good luck to the 49ers in their quest to wear the throwbacks all season. Didn’t the Bills try a couple seasons ago to wear their 60’s throwbacks for more than 2 games, and the NFL didn’t give them permission? Didn’t the NFL have a policy on how many times throwbacks could be worn? If this was all true, I’d imagine the 49ers will run into the same problem. After all, this is the same league that clamped down on small-scale tributes to Johnny Unitas (Manning’s shoes) and coaches wearing suits (at least until this year).

    BTW, I’m of the opinion they should go to the throwbacks full-time. It actually looks like a higher-quality team on the field, simply because they’re wearing the uniforms that the Niners’ best teams wore. I’d imagine most 49er fans would agree: if the NFL wanted some positive PR in the San Fran area, this might help.[/quote]
    I don’t know what policies have changed since the ’94 season, but back then the Niners got on a roll and were allowed to keep wearing the 75th anniversary throwbacks all year and through to the Super Bowl.

    Mike Nolan has wanted to switch back permanently anyway as I recall. Maybe this will be the catalyst for a permanent change. Let’s hope so.

    Francona wears a jersey that reaches his knees? That’s quite a jersey. Perhaps he could wear one that is not quite so long.[/quote]

    The circulation around his knees is affected by the jersey being tucked in around his waiste. Again, so he says. Why aren’t we taliing about the brutal hat that your hero was wearing when he came into the dugout in the middle of a game? I think that your hero needs to smarten up. Did I mention how impressed I am by your choice of heroes?

    [quote comment=”138527″][quote comment=”138507″][quote comment=”138505″]link[/quote]
    Also mentioned in the article is a special patch???[/quote]

    Maybe a 40th anniversary patch?[/quote]

    That’s a good call I didn’t thinks of that.

    [quote comment=”138602″]Found this to be quite entertaining: link
    looks like this is what it’s coming to.

    [quote comment=”138596″]Francona wears a jersey that reaches his knees? That’s quite a jersey. Perhaps he could wear one that is not quite so long.[/quote]

    The circulation around his knees is affected by the jersey being tucked in around his waiste. Again, so he says. Why aren’t we taliing about the brutal hat that your hero was wearing when he came into the dugout in the middle of a game? I think that your hero needs to smarten up. Did I mention how impressed I am by your choice of heroes?[/quote]

    Um, yeah, you did mention how im pressed you were with his choice of heroes.

    That and you misspelled the word waist in both your entries.

    more court talk. UNC just refinished and repainted the dean dome court for the first time ever this summer. pics here…

    [quote comment=”138607″][quote comment=”138596″]Francona wears a jersey that reaches his knees? That’s quite a jersey. Perhaps he could wear one that is not quite so long.[/quote]

    The circulation around his knees is affected by the jersey being tucked in around his waiste. Again, so he says. Why aren’t we taliing about the brutal hat that your hero was wearing when he came into the dugout in the middle of a game? I think that your hero needs to smarten up. Did I mention how impressed I am by your choice of heroes?[/quote]

    Um, yeah, you did mention how im pressed you were with his choice of heroes.

    That and you misspelled the word waist in both your entries.[/quote]
    Sorry for the misspelled word, but I should note that “impressed” is one word. I am starting to think that the most appropriate spelling is : waste

    Paul,
    Any interest/thought in regards to teams not playing their home games at home. NY Giants and NY Jets immediately come to mind!?! NY Giants at the Polo Grounds and the NY Jets at Shea. Hate that these historic football clubs play in Jersey. (No disrespect to Jersey but you had the Generals not our fault the USFL folded.)

    A classic look for the Carolina court. One thing that has always bugged me, though, is that they continue the Carolina Blue paint outside the state outline to the edge of the circle at half-court.

    I know my wife hates that I notice these things.

    [quote comment=”138602″]Found this to be quite entertaining: link
    All that’s missing are little flashing LED lights.

    Also interesting tennis attire on view link.

    Marquette University has came out with a new golden eagle link. It was said to complement the Marquette link better than the previous link As if being known as the “Gold” wasn’t bad enough, now Marquette has this link eagle.

    Additional views link, link, and link, and the offcial press release is link.

    [quote comment=”138597″][quote comment=”138527″][quote comment=”138507″][quote comment=”138505″]link[/quote]
    Also mentioned in the article is a special patch???[/quote]

    Maybe a 40th anniversary patch?[/quote]

    That’s a good call I didn’t thinks of that.[/quote]
    It will be the 40th Anniversary patch.

    The new UNC court looks better. They seem to have toned it down to a lighter colored wood. That court always looked good aesthetically, but that brightly colored wood combined with the Carolina blue made for a serious eyesore on tv.

    Greatest headline ever on ESPNs homepage….

    “Yankees wave magic Wang and sweep Red Sox”

    Pinella does the pullover a lot- I’ve seen Bochy do it- I don’t see the problem. Torre, too.

    As an official (ref) for the Saint Louis Gaelic Athletic Club I second the notion of the players of both Hurling and Gaelic Football being crazy. Also some of the best athletes I have ever seen. BTW, the NAGAA National Championships are going on this weekend in Chicago. If you live in the area I highly suggest you go. They have a website, just google it!
    Up Saint Louis!
    Slainte’
    Mike

    [quote comment=”138536″][quote comment=”138344″]The various hurling helmets have something to do with lack of funds, but the helmet is also not considered a part of the standard uniform. It’s totally optional for players over 21. So I liken it to NBA players wearing different wristbands, or MLBers wearing different batting gloves.[/quote]

    Yeah, I was over in ireland a week or two ago and had the same thoughts. Under 21’s though have to wear helmets with facemask by rule. A very interesting game. Whats even more interesting is that Gaelic football and hurling are played on the exact same field. Same markings, same way to score etc. And as a last thought, anyone playing hurling WITHOUT a helmet and facemask is probably crazier than an NHL goalie not wearing one. Those guys have no fear.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”138441″]Regarding best court designs…

    link.[/quote]
    did anyone else notice that the celtics were getting beat 76-47 by the hawks…that’s about right

    [quote comment=”138596″]Francona wears a jersey that reaches his knees? That’s quite a jersey. Perhaps he could wear one that is not quite so long.[/quote]

    The circulation around his knees is affected by the jersey being tucked in around his waiste. Again, so he says. Why aren’t we taliing about the brutal hat that your hero was wearing when he came into the dugout in the middle of a game? I think that your hero needs to smarten up. Did I mention how impressed I am by your choice of heroes?[/quote]

    Oh, thanks for clearing that up about Francona’s jersey. You threw me off when you initially said that “it is simply uncomfortable to tuck the jersey in around his waiste [sic] and down to his knees and legs.” That said to me that he wore his jersey down to his knees, and I was taking you at your word.

    Just wondering, why are you so sensitive about this topic?

    [quote comment=”138613″][quote comment=”138457″]I personally believe, link, like since, ever.[/quote]

    I said it yesterday, link[/quote]

    I personally believe, that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because, uh, some, uh… people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and… I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., err, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our…

    [quote comment=”138632″]link

    [/quote]
    Wow, that looks like crap. Way over on the ‘Stupid’ side of the Good v. Stupid meter.

    Paul —

    A couple of quick corrections to your college football preview regarding the Pac-10.

    – Washington had the names removed TWO years ago, not last season. (Thank God he’s putting them back, as the Huskies go crazier with the double-numbers than most.

    – USC’s kicker who perished is MARIO Danelo, not Matt.

    [quote comment=”138636″][quote comment=”138613″][quote comment=”138457″]I personally believe, link, like since, ever.[/quote]

    I said it yesterday, link[/quote]

    I personally believe, that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because, uh, some, uh… people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and… I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., err, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our…[/quote]

    Anyone else ever notice that all of todd krevanchi’s humour just comes from him repeating other things that are funny? Get a personality!

    [quote comment=”138615″][quote comment=”138602″]Found this to be quite entertaining: link
    All that’s missing are little flashing LED lights.

    Also interesting tennis attire on view link.[/quote]

    While the gold is a bit much, it isn’t all bad.

    Besides, she’s got a history of really good attire…see link

    [quote comment=”138649″][quote comment=”138630″]link the new NFL logo[/quote]

    wow. the difference is stunning.[/quote]

    I want to see the price tag for this dramatic change…

    [quote comment=”138640″][quote comment=”138632″]link

    [/quote]
    Wow, that looks like crap. Way over on the ‘Stupid’ side of the Good v. Stupid meter.[/quote]

    I disagree. I think that the update is well-done, understated, and well-thought out.

    Adjusting the football to echo the Lombardi trophy instead of a hamburger = good.

    Replacing 25 random stars that represented nothing and were often left off anyway with 8 stars that represent the 8 divisions = good.

    Not putting in a drop shadow or a black accent simply because they could have = good.

    It’s a simple and classy update of a great logo.

    [quote comment=”138649″][quote comment=”138630″]link the new NFL logo[/quote]

    wow. the difference is stunning.[/quote]

    I think the change looks good. The serifs on the old logo were a little dated, and I like the new football in the top of the crest. But all the marketing-speak that is spewed forth in this article makes me vomit. All the “leaner, meaner” stuff I can do without.

    Returning to the subject of number “shadows”, I noticed that the new Pitt uniforms, as seen in the new ESPN column today, have shadows going down and to the left instead of the right:

    link

    I’ve noticed two things so far.

    1) LSU in purple
    2) LSU ,similar to ohio state last year, is going flyless

    [quote comment=”138571″][quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]

    I think that it is a joke that Bob Watson would enter the dugout during a critical game, or any game for that matter, to “check to see if Francona is wearing his jersey”. Whether you choose to believe Francona or not is your call but the man has had nearly 20 knee surgeries, lately some of them have caused complications with his circulation. He stated that it is simply uncomfortable to tuck the jersey in around his waiste and down to his knees and legs. I think Bob and his cronies at MLB have much bigger fish to fry than what the coaching staff is wearing. Good pick for your hero![/quote]

    In case you haven’t read the article, Francona takes blood thinners, which cause him to feel cold, regardless of the temperature in the dugout. He also wears long underwear under his uniform pants all season long. As another poster noted, wearing his #47 jersey tucked in affects his circulation, which the blood thinners are meant to address in the first place.

    And the picture of Tito showing Yankee Bob the collar of his uniform shirt was taken before the game. What set him off was the fact that an MLB official demanded he come into the runway to show that he was wearing MLB-deemed proper attire in the middle of an inning- with runners on base in a critical situation of the game. When asked if it could wait, the official refused.

    Another poster mentioned that coaches are on the field during BP. Well, the players are not wearing their full uniforms at that time either, as they have different tops and caps on. Or at least the league thinks they should.

    I personally do not see the big deal about coaches’ attire. Basketball and hockey have their “tradition” of the coaches wearing suits. and ties. Baseball managers wear a baseball uniform, or something that resembles one. Football coaches wear team-logo’ed apparel. I’m kind of on the fence, even though I am a Patriot fan, regarding the cutoff hoodie. If it’s what’s comfortable for the job that BB needs to do on the sideline, then it should be OK. But is there something in the pro shop that doesn’t need a pair of scissors to meet the coach’s fit requirements? A cutoff grey hoodie is much different from the 80’s sweaters I picture Ditka and Parcells wearing with their team name across the chest in block letters.

    [quote comment=”138671″]Leafs fans , please sit down before you read this link

    click under Leafs new jersey.[/quote]

    GULP!!

    no source but i remember reading a while back that Pitt will be bringing back the blue pants this year along with the gold pants. This is probably the reason for the disappearance of the gold side panels.

    Chiming in late on Tito and his uniform. I just think it is bush league for MLB personnel to check on him in the middle of a game. If they want to send memos or fine him for being out of uniform, that is okay, but they should not check on him in the middle of a game.

    Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but tonight is a rare sighting of the LSU’s purple jerseys. MSU is wearing white at home.

    [quote comment=”138676″]I’ve noticed two things so far.

    1) LSU in purple
    2) LSU ,similar to ohio state last year, is going flyless[/quote]

    On top of that, not a single one of them is wearing the standard knee-high socks.

    What’s this with Miss Mississippi announcing the players on ESPN? I can’t wait for a S. Carolina game.

    “Umm, we have, like, some guys. I think they, such as, South Africa, have a lot in common with we as US American Carolinians. And the Iraq is wrong. Go Cocks!”

    [quote comment=”138658″][quote comment=”138640″][quote comment=”138632″]link

    [/quote]
    Wow, that looks like crap. Way over on the ‘Stupid’ side of the Good v. Stupid meter.[/quote]

    I disagree. I think that the update is well-done, understated, and well-thought out.

    Adjusting the football to echo the Lombardi trophy instead of a hamburger = good.

    Replacing 25 random stars that represented nothing and were often left off anyway with 8 stars that represent the 8 divisions = good.

    Not putting in a drop shadow or a black accent simply because they could have = good.

    It’s a simple and classy update of a great logo.[/quote]

    I agree it could have been much worse, but I’m going to miss that old lettering with the curly “L.”

    Additionally, and actually uniform related, Miss St. lineman just checked out of the game because the front of his jersey was completely ripped off.

    [quote comment=”138671″]Leafs fans , please sit down before you read this link

    click under Leafs new jersey.[/quote]

    I am seriously hoping that’s just misdirection marketing and not what they’re actually going to look like. The word ‘blasphemy’ comes to mind.

    [quote comment=”138696″]Additionally, and actually uniform related, Miss St. lineman just checked out of the game because the front of his jersey was completely ripped off.[/quote]

    Geez, now the Miss. St. running back Dixon’s pants were ripped so far up the leg that his knee pad was flapping around in the air as he ran. It looked like they took him out just to tape it up. Either LSU is that physical or there’s some crap uniforms coming out of Alex City.

    Can anyone post a picture of the new red wings uniforms please, cant seem to find one, thanks

    [quote comment=”138659″][quote comment=”138649″][quote comment=”138630″]link the new NFL logo[/quote]

    wow. the difference is stunning.[/quote]

    I think the change looks good. The serifs on the old logo were a little dated, and I like the new football in the top of the crest. But all the marketing-speak that is spewed forth in this article makes me vomit. All the “leaner, meaner” stuff I can do without.[/quote]
    I think the serifs were part of the charm of the old-school NFL logo, like in the main logo and that of the NFL Network. You know when you saw that typeface you thought NFL and nothing else.
    Yeah, it made me think of the history .. George Halas and the Hupmobile and all that.
    Oh well, progress. Though having less stars and a cleaner looking football does make the logo less busy – easier to see in those little uniform shields, on TV and so on.

    [quote comment=”138409″]Sorry Matt Thompson, but the Colorado Caribou top my list of worst uniforms EVER!

    You are a brave man to have this uniform illustrated on you UniWatch membership card.[/quote]

    Hate to be the killjoy, but the number one is usually a goalkeeper’s shirt (In Football, the only exceptions I can think of are national teams that decide to distribte numbers alphabetically). That means the uni would NOT look like the rest of the team’s.

    Splitting hairs, I know, but hey, that’s what we do.

    linkThe Penguins’ logo and colors will remain the same, although there will be some modifications to the striping, the shoulder areas, the pants and the socks.
    Penguins players also will be wearing a special patch for the 2007-08 season that will be displayed for the first time on Sept. 5.

    Was going through old Canucks pics when I found link of Kirk McLean from the 87-88 season. The patch on his right shoulder looks like “BAME” or “BAMF”. Any clue(s)?

    [quote comment=”138735″]Was going through old Canucks pics when I found link of Kirk McLean from the 87-88 season. The patch on his right shoulder looks like “BAME” or “BAMF”. Any clue(s)?[/quote]

    Nightcrawler?

    I hope someone gets this joke.

    The ESPN article mentioned Minnesota’s new larger M, but failed to mention the addition of not one, but two patches. One for I-35W (which is near the campus) and one for the past director of compliance, Frank Kara.

    [quote comment=”138690″]Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but tonight is a rare sighting of the LSU’s purple jerseys. MSU is wearing white at home.[/quote]

    LSU wearing purple isn’t as rare as most people think. They always wear purple for the homecoming game, plus they also wear it for one other non conference game at home. Of course, neither one of those games usually make it to regular (non pay-per-view) TV.

    [quote comment=”138735″]Was going through old Canucks pics when I found link of Kirk McLean from the 87-88 season. The patch on his right shoulder looks like “BAME” or “BAMF”. Any clue(s)?[/quote]

    I believe that would be “BABE”, for Babe Pratt. He died in December 1988, so I think the picture would actually be from the 88-89 season.

    Babe Pratt played with the Maple Leafs and Rangers, and was a longtime goodwill ambassador for the Canucks up until his death.

    It has always been my understanding (and if I heard it, read it or just assumed it, I’ve long since forgotten) that a manager could wear a suit, a la Connie Mack and the Dodgers’ Burt Shotton (though I think Shotton wore a cap and team jacket along with a bow tie), but couldn’t step on the field during the game. Anybody know if this is an actual rule?

    I dunno if anyone else is watching, but on WGN the announcers had a little inane conversation about white after labor day in relation to the Cubs’ unis.

    Also, I think Prince Fielder is suiting up in pajama pants these days.

    [quote comment=”138738″][quote comment=”138735″]Was going through old Canucks pics when I found link of Kirk McLean from the 87-88 season. The patch on his right shoulder looks like “BAME” or “BAMF”. Any clue(s)?[/quote]

    Nightcrawler?

    I hope someone gets this joke.[/quote]

    haha

    Here’s a good view of the memorial patches the Indiana University football team will wear this season in memory of link.

    Alas, I will not be at that game but will catch the Hoosiers next weekend vs. Western Michigan.

    [quote comment=”138472″][quote comment=”138340″][quote comment=”138336″]Bob Watson is officially my hero. Next time he needs to have the MLB security guy escort the fleece-wearer to the clubhouse for a little reeducation on the importance of wearing a jersey.[/quote]
    Yeah, but consistency counts (and this from a Yankees fan). . .Did Watson walk over to the Yankees dugout and reprimand Ron Guidry who was wearing a pullover and not a jersey? Torre might have been pullover-clad as well (He DEFINITELY was on Tuesday night!) No mention of that in the piece from the Post[/quote]

    link is the issue from the Boston Globe standpoint.

    ps – sorry for being away for so long. i’ve missed you guys, but work’s been hectic.[/quote]

    Francona said Watson first contacted him to start wearing the uniform in Cleveland in late July. Watson informed him that there was a uniform top crackdown because MLB wanted their managers to respect the game and wear the proper attire.

    It’s too bad that they can’t get the players (Manny Ramirez) to respect the game too.

    Found an interesting article in the link tonight. It is written by Jason Clermont, a slotback with the CFL’s B.C. Lions, and takes an interesting point of view on how players dress.

    He also makes a unique defence of the Canucks putting “Vancouver” on their home jerseys.

    Anyone looking at the uniforms Argentina’s basketball team is wearing in this game versus the USA? Yikes.

    I’m watching the Utah @ Oregon State game and OSU looks like crap. The orange bib looks like a tank top pulled above the breasts. And the nameplate on some players extends beyond the rear bib area, creating a 4 pointed effect. Utah isn’t looking great either with piping going everywhere and half the team leaving on the injury cart.

    Also #63 Kyle Gunther for Utah had his name peeling off of the back of his jersey early in the first half. The camera clearly caught the ‘n’ missing and now with the 4th quarter starting, he is completely name free.

    [quote comment=”138698″][quote comment=”138671″]Leafs fans , please sit down before you read this link

    click under Leafs new jersey.[/quote]

    I am seriously hoping that’s just misdirection marketing and not what they’re actually going to look like. The word ‘blasphemy’ comes to mind.[/quote]

    Well, that new idea for the Leafs jersey made me gag.

    But then I felt better when I started laughing at the dumbass teenagers who decided it’d be cool to yell “EW” into the microphone. Smooth, boys.

    [quote comment=”138698″][quote comment=”138671″]Leafs fans , please sit down before you read this link

    click under Leafs new jersey.[/quote]

    I am seriously hoping that’s just misdirection marketing and not what they’re actually going to look like. The word ‘blasphemy’ comes to mind.[/quote]

    Well, that new idea for the Leafs jersey made me gag.

    But then I felt better when I started laughing at the dumbass teenagers who decided it’d be cool to yell “EW” into the microphone. Smooth, boys.

    [quote comment=”138738″][quote comment=”138735″]Was going through old Canucks pics when I found link of Kirk McLean from the 87-88 season. The patch on his right shoulder looks like “BAME” or “BAMF”. Any clue(s)?[/quote]

    Nightcrawler?

    I hope someone gets this joke.[/quote]

    ja, mein herr

    [quote comment=”138689″]Chiming in late on Tito and his uniform. I just think it is bush league for MLB personnel to check on him in the middle of a game. If they want to send memos or fine him for being out of uniform, that is okay, but they should not check on him in the middle of a game.[/quote]

    As I recall, his name is Terry. His father is Tito.

    [quote comment=”138748″][quote comment=”138735″]Was going through old Canucks pics when I found link of Kirk McLean from the 87-88 season. The patch on his right shoulder looks like “BAME” or “BAMF”. Any clue(s)?[/quote]

    I believe that would be “BABE”, for Babe Pratt. He died in December 1988, so I think the picture would actually be from the 88-89 season.

    Babe Pratt played with the Maple Leafs and Rangers, and was a longtime goodwill ambassador for the Canucks up until his death.[/quote]

    great, thanks

    Can someone please explain the support for the wearing of baseball uniforms by fat old men who haven’t played the game in 30 years?

    Please don’t have your explanation pertain to the fact that it’s been this way forever. All traditions are not necessarily good.

    [quote comment=”138586″]Good luck to the 49ers in their quest to wear the throwbacks all season. Didn’t the Bills try a couple seasons ago to wear their 60’s throwbacks for more than 2 games, and the NFL didn’t give them permission? Didn’t the NFL have a policy on how many times throwbacks could be worn? If this was all true, I’d imagine the 49ers will run into the same problem.[/quote]

    If I were the 49ers, I’d tell the NFL to go fuck itself, and wear whatever jersey I wanted.

    Hell, why not play the game in lime green jerseys and hot pink pants, with orange and magenta helmets, just to see how messy of a load they made in their pants?

    [quote comment=”138878″][quote comment=”138689″]Chiming in late on Tito and his uniform. I just think it is bush league for MLB personnel to check on him in the middle of a game. If they want to send memos or fine him for being out of uniform, that is okay, but they should not check on him in the middle of a game.[/quote]

    As I recall, his name is Terry. His father is Tito.[/quote]

    many people call Terry “Tito” anyway, for some retarded reason.

    [quote comment=”138636″][quote comment=”138613″][quote comment=”138457″]I personally believe, link, like since, ever.[/quote]

    I said it yesterday, link[/quote]

    I personally believe, that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because, uh, some, uh… people out there in our nation don’t have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and… I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., err, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our…[/quote]

    Love how J. Todd took something current and relevant and made a joke about it. Super Cool!!

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