Let Us Now Praise Famous Men Uniforms

Speaking of museums, the Franklin Institute (a Science Museum) here in Philadelphia has a phyisics-of-sports exhibit, complete with unis for some local teams. PL will be pleased to know that the Phillies kit on display has the Liberty Bell stirrups. Does this mean they’re part of the official uniform? I know Jamie Moyer wears them but I don’t know if anyone else even shows sock.

i went to the lexington legends (class a) baseball game last night and the legends were wearing their regular style jerseys except they had an american flag pattern for their sleeves and red numbers (the legends colors are blue and green) in honor of memorial day. i am still efforting a pic.

I’m pretty sure Gaylord Perry wore that uniform for some MLB sponsored old-timers game. I can’t remember if it took place during the All-Star break, or Hall of Fame induction, but I remember seeing it on tv. I could be wrong though, of course.

Regarding whether the Bulls really did wear those “White Shadow” unis, the answer is yes, for most of the mid to late 70’s. Check out…
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Sorry, that should be CWS not WCWS…

I took my son to the uniform display in the summer of ’05. It’s irritating that it’s not there for the time being (it definitely will be back in some form, like the gorgeous new ballpark room).

I definitely have seen that picutre before. It’s coach Jim Rivera modeling the shorts before the season (He’s the same guy dancing like a crazy man after the Sox won the pennant in ’59 in the video mentioned above, too).
I want to say that I saw the pic in a Sox history book, but maybe all of the trips to Cooperstown as a kid are blending in my mind (It’s a fantastic thing to never live more than 2 hours from baseball heaven).

Between the all-red Indians uniform, the White Sox shorts, and the Pirates’ yellow stripes, it just goes to show how BAD uniforms were in the 70’s.

I watched a small bit of a UNC/Wake Forest game this past weekend and thought the UNC uniforms looked awful. They were a sleep inducing combo of gray and carolina blue: Gray hats with a blue visor, shiny blue shirts and gray pants. It was difficult to tell the difference between the blue and gray even in close-ups and the jerseys looked like they were purchased in the Ladies Sleepware department at Sears.

Regarding Sampras, I watched him play a few weeks ago, and I am pretty sure he could be a top 5 player on the tour right now.

[quote comment=”94134″]figured I’d post this for all of you to see. I whipped up a website showing all soccer (football) uniform changes for the upcoming year.
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Thanks Erik, I’m a huge soccer fan and love the site. I agree that Man City’s new unis are tops. But, is that REALLY Chelsea’s new home jersey??? The florescent yellow/green? It looks like a keepers jersey.

link from Kim in the photo that Paul linked on the big page.

Anyone with a tip on what kind of pitch he’s throwing there? Results of backyard testing to follow…

Looking at this link, it reminds me of how minor-league jerseys seem to have the little “minor leagues” logo several inches below the collar, instead of right on it like the big-league clubs do. Anyone know why this is?

(And could they please get rid of it? Yet another thing cluttering up link link jerseys.

The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was. (Listening to the game on XM while away from NY because I wanted to hear the Mets game.)

[quote comment=”94138″]How can major league baseball have a “hall of fame” and NOT have a uniform display?[/quote]

Very simple. They don’t “get it”.

I like the new link except for the low riding name on the front of the jersey. It looks like it is almost sitting on top of the numbers.

[quote comment=”94150″][quote comment=”94124″]Between the all-red Indians uniform, the White Sox shorts, and the Pirates’ yellow stripes, it just goes to show how BAD uniforms were in the 70’s.[/quote]
Yep, most teams kind of lost their minds in the 70s. I do look back on those unis with a sense of nostalgia because they were what I was raised on.[/quote]

Well put. I would throw a fit if teams these days started trotting out red-over-red uniforms or anything like what the Astros used to wear. However, I look back on those old looks with fondness, if for no other reason than that I thought that they were seriously cool when I was ten years old.

Maybe I watched it too many times raising my kids…but linkreminds me a lot of link…

i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
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why don’t softball players wear hats?

[quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
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why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.

[quote comment=”94178″][quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
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why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.[/quote]
I’ve seen a few wear visors, but its definitely not ‘uniform’.

As a big fan of the purple-black combo (my high school actually wore purple, and it just looked better for us with black), I love Kaz Matsui’s batting gloves.

Of course, I don’t necessarily love the Rockies’ unis (much like the Pirates…ugly is ugly even if the colors are nice), but I’m definitely one of those guys who strongly disagrees with Paul’s views on purple.

[quote comment=”94117″]Regarding whether the Bulls really did wear those “White Shadow” unis, the answer is yes, for most of the mid to late 70’s. Check out…
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and later than that…
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[quote comment=”94143″]It is my understanding that Nike started making basketball shoes in the mid 70’s. In fact, due to their close proximity to Portland (Beaverton is HQ for Swooshville) their famous ‘Blazer’ sneaker was inspired by/for the Portland Trail’Blazers’. (Recently, the Blazers have been reissued in a variety of color and fabric/leather combinations by Nike.)This hi top, all leather sneaker had a lo top companion called the ‘Bruin’. Nikes’ next generation basketball sneaker was called the ‘Franchise'(both hi and lo top versions were available). The franchise was most famously worn by George Iceman Gervin in the infamous Nike poster ‘The Iceman’. The franchise was a bit more rounded in the toe than the Blazer and had numerous but slight stylistic variations (gum sole bottoms, suede toe cap, no toe cap, leather toe cap, etc.). Here is where things got a little confusing as far as I remember. I believe the next shoes were called the ‘Legend’, an all leather sneaker that had a series of holes perforated on the toe and was a generally heftier version of the Franchise and the ‘Dynasty’, a hybrid sneaker made of suede and mesh. The ‘Legend’ was worn by Darrell Dr. Dunkenstein Griffith (in another infamous Nike poster, “Dr. Dunkenstein’ and with the Utah Jazz) and the early Ewing led Georgetown Hoyas. The ‘Dynasty’ shoe was worn by the Phi Slamma Jamma great Clyde Drexler, Larry Micheaux, etc. (Akeem wore Adidas.) Next came the ‘Air Force 1’ a.k.a. ‘Uptowns’that started the explosion into ‘Air Jordans’, ‘Dunks’, etc. The Air Force 1 was orginally made in white leather with silver trim and had the matching silver velcro strap across the ankle.[/quote]

great mini history xyz… much more detailed than what i had planned…
nike originally operated under the name blue ribbon sports, when it imported onitsuka tigers (now asics, in the model of the current cortez) in 1971, phil knight and bill bowerman (track legend and original investor) chose to make their own and decided on nike as a name. from the winged goddess of victory. if i remember correctly from the book swoosh, knight wanted the name to be dimension six. finally in 1972, the kit and caboodle was put together and the rest is history…

Cliff Floyd is wearing a Nike Dri-Fit T-shirt with the “Cactus League” logo on the front. The logo is orange, and is a horizontal rextangle. I am currently looking for a picture of the logo I can post here, but I haven’t found one as of yet.

Couple of notes….

The Marlins’ announcers talking about the pants were Dave Van Horne and Roxy Barnstein…two of the better announcers. Marlins have a great announcing set up for radio and TV.

Softball hats….usually they wear visors if at all due to pony tails. Mostly, according to the women on our team here, it’s a personal preference thing.

And as far as people saying the Hall of Fame “doesn’t get it” … um, I believe the uniforms are coming back in some form…..they are doing renovations up there…besides that’s why we have this little haven.

Frank

Curses! My post was just eaten… I’ll try again:

I’d like to renew an old topic from last week regarding the necessity of names on jerseys and first initials and all that, and “what’s the point if they’re wearing numbers?”

In rugby a player’s jersey number is not his own, but rather is determined by his position in the starting lineup:

1 & 3 – Props
2 – Hook
4 & 5 – Locks
6 & 7 – Flankers
8 – The Eight
9 – Scrum Half
10 – Fly Half
11 & 14 – Wings
12 – Inside Center
13 – Outside Center
15 – Fullback
16-22 – Reserves

This means that a player wear a different number from match to match if he switches positions or is relegated to the bench (Tana Umaga, New Zealand’s longtime captain, went back and forth between 12, 13, & 14 in his career).

It would stand to reason, then, that names would appear on jerseys so that fans might quickly identify favorite players, and yet this is extremely uncommon – especially at the international level. Most recently (to my knowledge) Wales put link on their link in 2005, but they were link by 2006. It should also be noted that when Wales had names they had 3 guys name Jones in the starting lineup, and they all had first initials on their backs.

Why are names so uncommon on rugby shirts? Do they commonly use names at the club level, and I’ve just overlooked the practice? Are numbers positional in order to help the referee in some way? Does a certain non-positionally determined number ever stick with a player regardless of where he’s at, maybe as a sign of respect?

I look to my fellow rugby-philes to help me understand.

[quote comment=”94182″]Regarding the Mets uniform in link, is the outlining of “Mets” in red, or a very dark orange? It doesn’t look like it matches the orange on the cap or the orange in 2007’s uniforms.[/quote]

I think it’s orange; it looks the same color as the Orioles jersey to the left of it. The embroidery on the cap is a different material so it shouldn’t be surprising that the oranges are different shades.

In the same photo, though, there’s a Pirates jersey, #36, and you can see white space between what should be the yellow and black layers of the number. Does this mean that instead of sewing two layers on top of each other like they do now, they instead sewed a black number and then a yellow outline around it?

Is that a link on the Phillies all-burgandy uni? A really odd feature for 1979 if it is..

The Philies had zipper fronts into the 80’s. They were by far the last team to have them.

Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

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“I’m not worried about the Hall,” the San Francisco slugger said during a recent homer drought. “I take care of me.”

Barry being Barry.

How can those Jockeys see through all of those goggles? I would think it probably has some sort of bottle effect. I guess you probably don’t need to see much when you’re a jockey, just make sure you whip that thoroughbred enough times.

Cliff Floyd is wearing a grey nike drifit, and the logo is a spring training logo…. All players receive them in Spring Training.

Those Ducks uni numbers are rediculously huge.
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[quote comment=”94202″][quote comment=”94145″]link from Kim in the photo that Paul linked on the big page.

Anyone with a tip on what kind of pitch he’s throwing there? Results of backyard testing to follow…[/quote]
I’m no pitcher, but my first thought is that perhaps he’s not pitching, but rushing a play in the field. Maybe?[/quote]

My guess – a variation on the link “Vulcan Change”

To me the object on Clemens belt looks like link a security pager for a Harley Davidson. The fourth picture looks like it has the bar and shield logo on it. click on view two of the pager for a better look.

I am not sure how to put the link in the post so here it is. link look at view 2.

Anyone know what the link is???

[quote comment=”94220″][quote comment=”94215″]Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

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“I’m not worried about the Hall,” the San Francisco slugger said during a recent homer drought. “I take care of me.”

Barry being Barry.[/quote]
Man I hope he tears up his knee again. What an ass.[/quote]

In all honesty, if no one wants him in the HOF, why would you want any of his stuff there? Will there be an asterisk next to his items? Either ignore him or embrace him. We can’t have it both ways.

The pitch Kim is throwing is a change up. There’s no one way to throw it, he just has a different way of gripping it.

Ok, I don’t know if it was mentioned already today (I was too lazy to read through all the comments) but they do still have somewhat of a uni display in Cooperstown. I went just last year, and instead of having an old display like that, they have a new room where every team in represented in a “locker.” In the locker, each linkhad at least link jersey hanging up, with some teams having link jerseys. (if you zoom into that Padres’ picture, you can see a patch of the game they played vs the Mets in Mexico in I believe 1997). Also in this “locker room,” there were some other jerseys, such as link jersey from the World Baseball Classic. Gotta love those embroidered helmet decals.

A few other things I saw uni-related:

– There was a display from the previous year’s World Series, featuring three game worn link.

– A close up of a Phillies (I believe) zip-up link.

– Curt Schilling’s bloody link.

– link another view of that hat Stengel wore. As you can see, the logo’s stretched all the way around it.

– Some of Ted Williams old link, including those ever-famous Red Sox striped stirrups. Check out the #9 at the bottom of the stirrup. I never noticed that until just now.

– Uni’s from baseball movies, including link, and link.

I got other things, but I’m getting tired of linking everything. Real quick, though, in closing. The reason we went up to Cooperstown was because my little brother had a baseball tournament at the Cooperstown Dreams Park. Very nice facility, great place to play/watch a game. Anyways, in order to avoid uni-corresponding confusion (with over 100 teams there, it would be easy to have a game where two teams are wearing generally similar uniforms) the park gave out two jerseys to each team. A red one, and a blue one. Another rule they imposed was that each player had to wear their socks high. If not, they’d be removed from the game. Well, my little brother usually wore his pants low, as you can kinda see link. However, this tournament forced him to wear them high, and as a result hit his first link. Later he hit his second off Roger Clemens’ son’s team, with the Rocket in attendance.

I think the reason most MLB players don’t wear their pant legs high, is because their teammates discourage it. Many of these guys come to “the show” with their socks showing, like they wore them in College, and then after a while, most become victims of “peer pressure,” and wear the pant legs down. Management isn’t going to enforce proper uniform wearing because too many players are, at this point, making loads of money, and have become more important than the fans. Too many players (e.g., Manny just being “Manny”) get away with looking stupid because they have great stats.

[quote comment=”94271″]I think the reason most MLB players don’t wear their pant legs high, is because their teammates discourage it. Many of these guys come to “the show” with their socks showing, like they wore them in College, and then after a while, most become victims of “peer pressure,” and wear the pant legs down. Management isn’t going to enforce proper uniform wearing because too many players are, at this point, making loads of money, and have become more important than the fans. Too many players (e.g., Manny just being “Manny”) get away with looking stupid because they have great stats.[/quote]

I’ve heard this story too – David Wright has mentioned he felt this type of peer pressure from his Mets teammates when he made it to the bigs. Wright is seen with high socks through most of his minor league stay. It’s too bad that the baggy look wins out like that.

Great feature on the HOF uni display. However, the picture of the link seems to disagree with what link shows and what the Mariners wore last year in their link game. In fact, in “Rain Check; Baseball in the Pacific Northwest”, they show a Pilots team picture and they are wearing tops with block numbers. Who to believe? The HOF, with their Red Sox font top, or every other source with their athletic font top?

[quote comment=”94151″]The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was.

it was Dave Van Horne…other comments from the mets/marlins series this weekend. first, paul, the eye black/war paint thing has been going on all season during day games, several players doing it for the marlins–mainly cabrera and alfredo amezaga, couple other guys here and there as well. also, noticed that the mets were NOT wearing the bp caps at all this weekend (a la tony gwynn jr)…they were actually wearing the regular blue, classic caps pre-game and during bp.

Hanley Ramirez wore the same undershirt as Cliff Floyd did in yesterdays game at Wrigley. Attached is a link with a little better look at Floyd’s undershirt.

what a travesty that they’ve taken the uni exibit out. by far the best exibit the hallf of fame had. hey, paul. remember, the ill-fated phillies blue caps which was a modern example of a classic mistake? i always hoped to see them in that exibit one day

[quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

[sarcasm]
Well, obviously!
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No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University, the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.

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What, no stirrups?

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In other news, the President will be welcoming the Houston Dynamo to the White House in an hour. I sense a new jersey on the way. Any bets on the number?

[quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

Same with the University of Kansas and KU. Why?

[quote comment=”94299″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

[sarcasm]
Well, obviously!
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No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University, the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.[/quote]

As a WVU Alum, I HATE it when people say University of West Virginia….or worse yet, University of Western Virginia….ugh

[quote comment=”94309″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

Same with the University of Kansas and KU. Why?[/quote]
The University of Colorado has ‘CU’ on their helmets.

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I just threw up in my mouth a little.[/quote]

Why can’t that picture be of 2 girls? Just my $0.02

[quote comment=”94304″][quote comment=”94299″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

[sarcasm]
Well, obviously!
[/sarcasm]

No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.[/quote]
Is ‘West Virinia’ the same thing as ‘West Virgina’ and/or ‘West Virginia’?[/quote]

Oh sorry, that should be link!

[quote comment=”94324″][quote comment=”94313″][quote comment=”94301″]link[/quote]

I just threw up in my mouth a little.[/quote]

Why can’t that picture be of 2 girls?

Just my $0.02[/quote]

or of jamie kotsay…
very nice…

[quote comment=”94336″][quote comment=”94328″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

Its official name is “University of Oklahoma.” Maybe it’s OU because it was established after Oregon, or because Oklahoma (the state) was admitted 2nd?[/quote]

Same to be said of Kansas. UK is Kentucky, Kansas is KU to differentiate themselves. I am sure there are some tricky trademarks involved as well.[/quote]

There are definately a few link link link.

Good old baseball pics. here in an article of the US’s oldest stadium (click on the like that says (Click for more photos by Kenny Smith))

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I lust, yes, lust for the Pilots’ unis. I would love to see the uni exhibition when they get it back up and running.

As for the North Carolina black and blue jerseys–ugh. What a waste of black. I never thought I’d say this, but that is one ugly jersey–mostly because of the blue armpit blotches. Try again!

I really got a kick out of the video decrying Oklahoma wearing black. “What kind of team would model themselves after the Nazis? It’s up for you in your heart of hearts to decide.” Brilliant.

[quote comment=”94351″][quote comment=”94314″][quote comment=”94309″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

Same with the University of Kansas and KU. Why?[/quote]
The University of Colorado has ‘CU’ on their helmets.[/quote]

When the Big 8 was created they wanted to stand out from the other conferences. Like how Tennessee is UT and Kentucky is UK, the Big 8 decided to flip it it.[/quote]
Seriously? That’s friggin’ bizarre.

[quote comment=”94158″][quote comment=”94142″][quote comment=”94134″]figured I’d post this for all of you to see. I whipped up a website showing all soccer (football) uniform changes for the upcoming year.
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Thanks Erik, I’m a huge soccer fan and love the site. I agree that Man City’s new unis are tops. But, is that REALLY Chelsea’s new home jersey??? The florescent yellow/green? It looks like a keepers jersey.[/quote]

looks like it’s been mislabelled on the site. I’d say that might be a third shirt there, rather than home…[/quote]

It is indeed, their third, alternate jersey. Worn when teams clash, or sometimes for out of league games

Looking at those soccer uniforms, it’s absolutely official in my mind. Nike has far surpassed Adidas as far as making soccer uniforms. Bizarrely, Nike has emphasized individual teams over company template. The results are simple classic uniforms that look excellent. Meanwhile, Adidas has made template based jerseys with all these bells and whistles (so to speak) that just add clutter and stupidity to their designs.

I mean, even the pinstriped US jersey, which I’m not a fan of, is probably better than every single Adidas jersey Is aw on that site.

Also, West Ham hasn’t had decent jerseys since they were made by Fila. The switch to Umbro sadly hasn’t changed it.

[quote comment=”94372″]To continue the state university talk, Indiana is also IU, despite the fact many people refer to them as “the university of indiana.” what’s funny is that this usually only applies to references to the football team. It seems they never mess up when talking about the basketball team.[/quote]
But they ARE actually link

Interesting little piece of equipment seen on Scott Neidermayer’s right footlink. It appears to be a brace that players occasionaly wear to protect their feet from pucks when blocking shots.

[quote comment=”94368″]Why “CU” and not “UC”, from the Colorado website:

A question often asked of many former Big Eight schools: Why is it the University of Colorado, but the moniker is CU and not UC? (The same applies at Kansas-KU, Missouri-MU, Nebraska-NU and Oklahoma-OU). “Midwestern casualness,” says CU historian Fred Casotti. It has always been this way at Colorado, for whatever reason, and at the other four listed above-but seemingly nowhere else in the USA.

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I do not know whether I buy the “midwestern casualness” concept. In Nebraska, nearly everyone refers to the University as UNL (short for University of Nebraska-Lincoln), to distinguish it from its smaller siblings, UNO and UNK.

On campus, many signs say NU, while others say UNL. There is no real rhyme or reason to it, and I do not think that anyone there feels strongly about it one way or the other.

[quote comment=”94283″]Long shot, but is there any way someone could transcribe the video for those of us who are hearing impaired? Thanks in advance.[/quote]

As you wish…
The Oklahoma Sooners took the field this week in the big 12 baseball tournament wearing black jerseys. This remake of Men in Black couldn’t be more shocking than if Britney Spears made an appearance with her navel covered up, if Jack Nicholson made an appearance at a Laker’s sideline without his trademark sunglasses, if Bob Stoopes had dropped his visor in favor of a Bud Wilkenson fedora.

Nothing against black, it’s a fine color, and one that graces the uniforms of many a fine institution. But the Sooners wear crimson and cream. Have since not long after someone invented the wheel and nailed it to a (buckboard?). So what is OU doing going all Texas Tech on us? Black with red trim? And while it’s a dang sharp look, adopting the color scheme of Bobby Knight seems countrerproductive to the university mission.

OU’s archrival happens to claim black as a primary color. Oklahoma State agreed to forgo black in the bedlam game Friday night so the Sooners could wear the color. Many a bedlam showdown has featured black uniforms vs. white, but rarely with the Cowboys in the whites. Hope fans didn’t sit on the wrong side of Bricktown Ballpark.

Black uniforms are all the rage these days. The rappers adopted the Raiders and before you knew it, Duke basketball, Florida State football, and the Baltimore Ravens trotted out black jerseys. And every little league team from Iowa City to Fort Lauderdale had declared war on red and blue.

Blame it all on the Nazis, when in 1932 invented black uniforms, designing them for their SS military, before going on a variety of humanitarian maneuvers. Why anyone would want to mimic the Nazis is a question you’ll have to answer in your own heart of hearts.

The Sooners wore black this week because Nike asked them to. And in 21st century America, you don’t say no to Nike—the company of Michael Jordan, Bo Jackson, and 10 year old Pakistanian assembly line workers.

Black appeals to the younger crowd, whose spending habits keep the US economy humming. That’s why sporting events these days tend to look like a mafia funeral, there’s so much black being worn.

I don’t have a problem with teams occasionally dressing outside the box. The Red Sox wore green the other day to honor Boston legend Red Auerbach. Kelvin Sampson’s Sooners wore orange t-shirts in warmup at (Gallagher-Ibar?) Arena to honor the 10 killed in the OSU plane crash. But wearing black so Nike can sell 500 new jerseys to some Oklahoma kids? What’s next? Scrap the schooner in favor of a Mustang? Wear UO on the cap? Go all black—pants, shirts, caps? Men in Black—that’s a sequel I don’t want to see.

[quote comment=”94378″]Well its the University of North Carolina, and referred to UNC in all instances except for one song, which cries NCU.[/quote]

dammit! beat me…
from hark the sound…
Hark the sound of Tar Heel voices
Ringing clear and True
Singing Carolina’s praises
Shouting N.C.U.

Hail to the brightest Star of all
Clear its radiance shine
Carolina priceless gem,
Receive all praises thine.

‘Neath the oaks the sons true hearted
Homage pay to thee
Time worn walls give back their echo
Hail to U.N.C.

Though the storms of life assail us
Still our hearts beat true
Naught can break the friendships formed at
Dear old N.C.U.

I’m a Tar Heel born I’m a Tar Heel bred
And when I die I’m a Tar Heel dead.
So it’s RAH, RAH, Car’lina ‘lina
RAH, RAH, Car’lina ‘lina
RAH, RAH, Car’lina
RAH! RAH! RAH!

from here comes carolina…
Here comes Carolina-lina.
Here comes Carolina-lina.
We hail from NCU.

We’ve got the spirit in it.
We’ve got the team to win it.
We wear the colors white and blue,

So it’s fight, fight, fight for Carolina
As Davey did in days of old
As we gather round the Well
Cheer that Tar Heel team like hell
For the glory of NCU.

I’m a Tar Heel born.
I’m a Tar Heel bred.
And when I die I’ll be a Tar Heel dead.
So it’s rah rah Carolina-lina.
Rah rah Carolina-lina.
Rah rah Carolina-lina–go to hell State!

[quote comment=”94180″][quote comment=”94178″][quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
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why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.[/quote]
I’ve seen a few wear visors, but its definitely not ‘uniform’.[/quote]

Back in the mid 90’s there was a Nike tennis shoe called the air resistance that had a huge toe on it that was supposedly made of kevlar so that tennis players wouldn’t ruin thier shoes by dragging the toe on the serve followthrough. I had a pair in High School but by the time I got to college they stopped making them

In all honesty, if no one wants him [Barry Bonds-RB] in the HOF, why would you want any of his stuff there? Will there be an asterisk next to his items? Either ignore him or embrace him. We can’t have it both ways.

As much as I can’t stand Bonds, I totally agree with this poster. I don’t think me, Joe Average Fan who hates Bonds, can talk about not wanting his HR record to count or say he’s a cheater and shouldn’t be embraced by America as the home run king, and then be upset because he won’t share any of his historic home run chase with the Hall. How hypocritical is that?

Gee, I never thought I’d be agreeing with or sticking up for Bonds.

[quote comment=”94402″][quote comment=”94253″]Real point, we discussed Biggio’s pin and how Billy Martin wore a pin on his cap while managing the A’s and the Yankees. However, while visiting Monument Park this weekend, I noticed something odd on Billy Martin’s link Between the Y on his cap is a crucifix pin! I found it strange that the Yankees would use this on his plaque.[/quote]

That is a great observation!

I believe Nike basketball shoes debuted in ’73 with the link; I think the original colorway is the one on the left in that photo. I think their first major endorser was link of — duh — the Blazers, who shared the ’71 Rookie of the Year award with the Celtics’ Dave Cowens and is now the GM of the Sacramento Kings.[/quote]
Funny, I thought George Gervin and his Ice Man advertisements were first.

[quote comment=”94398″]Back in the mid 90’s there was a Nike tennis shoe called the air resistance that had a huge toe on it that was supposedly made of kevlar so that tennis players wouldn’t ruin thier shoes by dragging the toe on the serve followthrough. I had a pair in High School but by the time I got to college they stopped making them[/quote]

The kevlar was overkill, but still most high-end tennis shoes (link) have some sort of reinforcement link, often just in the form of denser, more plasticky rubber.

[quote comment=”94404″]Funny, I thought George Gervin and his Ice Man advertisements were first.[/quote]

Surely Gervin’s endorsement had more staying power. Most fans don’t even remember Petrie as a player.

In the absence of any concrete evidence, I’m sticking with Petrie ’cause Iceman Slim didn’t even play pro ball ’til ’73. (He was in the ABA ’til ’76.)

But, really, who cares?

Just to add $.02. Here in Texas, Longhorns refer to the campus in Austing as UT (as in the University OF Texas). Those fans of A&M refer to it as TU (Texas University)- refusing to refer to the burt-orange clad as the preferred University. FYI.

And that should be in Austin, not Austing.

The soccer jerseys are all wrong. Just go to Chelsea or Rwngers’ online store and you will quickly see the examples this joker gives are completely hosed up.

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[quote comment=”94263″]Ok, I don’t know if it was mentioned already today (I was too lazy to read through all the comments) but they do still have somewhat of a uni display in Cooperstown. I went just last year, and instead of having an old display like that, they have a new room where every team in represented in a “locker.” In the locker, each linkhad at least link jersey hanging up, with some teams having link jerseys. (if you zoom into that Padres’ picture, you can see a patch of the game they played vs the Mets in Mexico in I believe 1997). Also in this “locker room,” there were some other jerseys, such as link jersey from the World Baseball Classic. Gotta love those embroidered helmet decals.

A few other things I saw uni-related:

– There was a display from the previous year’s World Series, featuring three game worn link.

– A close up of a Phillies (I believe) zip-up link.

– Curt Schilling’s bloody link.

– link another view of that hat Stengel wore. As you can see, the logo’s stretched all the way around it.

– Some of Ted Williams old link, including those ever-famous Red Sox striped stirrups. Check out the #9 at the bottom of the stirrup. I never noticed that until just now.

– Uni’s from baseball movies, including link, and link.

I got other things, but I’m getting tired of linking everything. Real quick, though, in closing. The reason we went up to Cooperstown was because my little brother had a baseball tournament at the Cooperstown Dreams Park. Very nice facility, great place to play/watch a game. Anyways, in order to avoid uni-corresponding confusion (with over 100 teams there, it would be easy to have a game where two teams are wearing generally similar uniforms) the park gave out two jerseys to each team. A red one, and a blue one. Another rule they imposed was that each player had to wear their socks high. If not, they’d be removed from the game. Well, my little brother usually wore his pants low, as you can kinda see link. However, this tournament forced him to wear them high, and as a result hit his first link. Later he hit his second off Roger Clemens’ son’s team, with the Rocket in attendance.[/quote]

I think the red Astros jersey on the right is actually the jersey Chris Burke wore in the NLDS against the Braves when he hit a walkoff solo HR in the 18th inning. I suppose it’s possible he wore it in the World Series too, but it seems like the Hall would’ve wanted a Biggio jersey to go along with that Jeff Bagwell #5 since it was the first (and only for Bags) World Series for both of them.

Personally, I actually LIKE when the jerseys have the linklinkthe link. But I don’t necessarily like the rest of the jersey automatically.

Aghhhhh. My post was just eaten.

[quote comment=”94398″][quote comment=”94180″][quote comment=”94178″][quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
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why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.[/quote]
I’ve seen a few wear visors, but its definitely not ‘uniform’.[/quote]

Back in the mid 90’s there was a Nike tennis shoe called the air resistance that had a huge toe on it that was supposedly made of kevlar so that tennis players wouldn’t ruin thier shoes by dragging the toe on the serve followthrough. I had a pair in High School but by the time I got to college they stopped making them[/quote]

Those were my favorite tennis shoes. The best part was that they would replace them if you wore through the shoe, which I always did. I would still buy that shoe (even without the guarantee) if they made it. I tried several other Nike tennis shoes, but I never found one I liked after they stopped making the Air Resistance. That’s the way it goes with athletic shoes, though, especially from Nike. If they make one I like, they change or drop the style after a year or 2.

Kansas being referred to as “KU” is one of those “just because” things. Even prior to the turn of the last century, you can find references to “KU” in articles and photos.

It has nothing to do with “conflicting” with Kentucky, or Big 8 symmetry, it’s just always been that way – our alma mater concludes with “Hail to Old K.U.”

(I’ve also seen really old articles that refer to Kansas as “KSU”, back in the days when that godawful purple-wearing school down the road was the “Kansas State Agricultural College.”)

I also have to agree that 78-79 or so was when Nike really started gaining traction as “the shoes for the cool kids”. That was 8th grade for me, and Nikes were everywhere.

But since my father was firmly in the “I’m not paying $30 for a pair of tennis shoes!” camp, “everywhere” didn’t include my house.

[quote comment=”94467″]I also have to agree that 78-79 or so was when Nike really started gaining traction as “the shoes for the cool kids”. That was 8th grade for me, and Nikes were everywhere.

But since my father was firmly in the “I’m not paying $30 for a pair of tennis shoes!” camp, “everywhere” didn’t include my house.[/quote]

I believe I was the first guy @ Mariemont HS to wear Nike. (The All-courts.” We had a Puma Clyde school. blue/yellow or yellow/black. THE official shoe. People kept asking me about the design.

BTW, my first great pair of shoes- 29.95 in 1972 for the Adidas ABA Americana. Couldn’t believe they cost that much, heheh.

That authentic old Padres hat puts all of the replicas to shame. What an awesome pic. It just bugs me all to hell they can’t reproduce that cap accurately, and with such blasphemy results, too.

[quote comment=”94482″][quote comment=”94425″][quote comment=”94372″]To continue the state university talk, Indiana is also IU, despite the fact many people refer to them as “the university of indiana.” what’s funny is that this usually only applies to references to the football team. It seems they never mess up when talking about the basketball team.[/quote]

The miniature championship banners and the shirts in my closet are telling me to kill you…

Nah, J/K. Still, I do get seriously ticked when I hear anyone say “University of Indiana”. Unlike our friends in Big XII world, we like to keep our abbreviations consistent with the university names (IU, PU, NU, OSU, UW, PSU, etc, etc)[/quote]

Everyone knows my school in the state of minnesota as the “U” or the “U of M” not “UM” because of hated michigan and “MU” because of marquette potentially, plus it sounds horrible.[/quote]

Yeah, I did leave out a couple on my list there. I know Illinois is commonly referred to as U of I, but I’m not 100% sure what Iowa is. I don’t get much news out of Minnesota, so now I know about the U of M thing. And, since we’ve mentioned every other school, I’ll give MSU and their sort-of-new uniforms a shout out.

And now for something completely different…mets have the stripes with the black hats. booo

[quote comment=”94387″][quote comment=”94283″].
Blame it all on the Nazis, when in 1932 invented black uniforms, designing them for their SS military, before going on a variety of humanitarian maneuvers. Why anyone would want to mimic the Nazis is a question you’ll have to answer in your own heart of hearts.[/quote]

“Blame it all on the Nazis”? That’s a stretch. There were Prussian [i.e., German] Hussars who sported black uniforms as far back as the 18th century, complete with skull and crossbones. As well, some German cavalry regiments wore black in the early 20th century.

Haven’t noticed anyone else wearing it but tonight Carlos Gomez is wearing the black mets hat with a blue brim but the NY has white in it like on all the all black hats. Definitely the first I have ever seen of this…

sorry, neil, i didn’t see your comment. crazy, right?

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rugby numbers are set in stone, you cannot wear a number that isnt assigned with your position. And in the case of helping the referee: yes, there are certain rules backs/forwads must adhere to, more along the lines of elgigible/ineligible recever recognition in football[/quote]

Rugby numbers are only set in stone nowadays. Before rugby went professional you had Leicester (and a couple of other clubs) wearing letters (previously mentioned). Also, for some reason, unfortunately I don’t know what that reason is, Bath rarely used the number 13 shirt. Resulting in the outside centre wearing 14, the right-wing wearing 15, and the full-back getting 16 (Jon Callard was the lucky recipient that I can remember).

The Yankees announcers just mentioned how their 3rd base coach, Larry Bowa, has the high pants tonight.

Speaking of uniform cameos and oddities. Todd McFarlane have combined both of these into his latest Wayne Gretzky figure.

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It is “The Great One” sporting that odd slanting striped version of the St. Louis Blues jersey from the 1996 season where he played a quick 31 games with the blue-notes. It’s a must-have for me.

[quote comment=”94528″]Just watching the Cubs game, and the Cubs are wearing their home white pinstripes. I don’t know how many teams have this, but in the armpits of their jerseys, there is a mesh material. I just noticed because it is not pinstriped, so it stood out. Do all teams have this, or at least the option on warmer days?[/quote]

That is the Cool Base jersey that debuted last year.

yes..the bulls wore those uniforms..the red ones had chicago in script going up and the baseball style side numbers…doesnt anyone remember jordns first few seasons???
wow…

[quote comment=”94502″]Haven’t noticed anyone else wearing it but tonight Carlos Gomez is wearing the black mets hat with a blue brim but the NY has white in it like on all the all black hats. Definitely the first I have ever seen of this…

sorry, neil, i didn’t see your comment. crazy, right?[/quote]

How could something like that get by New Era’s quality control?

Balco Bonds is pitch hitting at Shea tonight. A chant of “You did steroids” just started, and was pointed out by the announcers! haha

[quote comment=”94549″]Even more bizarre from tonight’s yankee game (besides the straight steal of home) is the fact that first base coach tony pena has PULLED HIS PANTS UP MID-GAME!! sometime between the sixth and eighth inning!!

by the way the comment from john flaherty on the YES network incorrectly stated that bowa “pulled his socks up” not his pants!![/quote]

3rd base coach Larry Bowa had his pants up the whole game. Very odd. Whatever……..it didn’t work! haha

[quote comment=”94567″]I’m watching the Cardinals-Rockies game, and in the top of the 4th inning the announcers were talking about Matt Holliday. The cameras showed Holliday standing in the outfield during their chat, and suddenly Holliday busts out a long pack of seeds and pour some into his mouth, then put the pack back into his back pocket. I thought that was pretty funny. I’ve never seen a player carry a big pack of seeds onto the field before.[/quote]

A lot of players have seeds or dip in their pockets. Last year Cliff Floyd always used to have tons of seeds in his back pocket, and he’d pop a few in his mouth in between pitches.

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I just threw up in my mouth a little.[/quote]

Why can’t that picture be of 2 girls?

Just my $0.02[/quote]

or of jamie kotsay…
very nice…[/quote]

You’d think that if you were going to shell out that kind of money for a jersey, you’d at least buy the matching pro-cap.

It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?

[quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]

link link.

The Colorado Rockies also have mismatched link and link.

[quote comment=”94591″][quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]
Basically, the two-tone helmet has a blue brim that bleeds up onto the black crown of the helmet. The black and blue ball cap has a royal brim and a black crown, with a distinct separation of colors. Does that explain it?[/quote]
I don’t see the purpose for the two-tone helmet at all. If they started with the black hats to move more merchandise, why have a different batting helmet? Are fans buying batting helmets like that and wearing them out in public?

Rockies: seven straight wins in the purples, and more dreadful NL Central opponents waiting. Double Yoi.

Not uni-related at all, but……

ESPN reporter Erin Andrews showed up on the Shea scoreboard Kiss Cam. She obliged, kissing her hand and planting it on her cameraman’s cheek.

[quote comment=”94151″]The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was. (Listening to the game on XM while away from NY because I wanted to hear the Mets game.)[/quote]

Isn;t Dave Van Horn the Marlin’s play by play guy?

Stole him out of Montreal …

[quote comment=”94611″][quote comment=”94151″]The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was. (Listening to the game on XM while away from NY because I wanted to hear the Mets game.)[/quote]

Isn;t Dave Van Horn the Marlin’s play by play guy?

Stole him out of Montreal …[/quote]

It’s great listening to the Mets current trio of Ron Darling, Gary Cohen and Keith Hernandez. They tend to discuss topics like uniforms on a regular basis. Mex in particular likes to point out stuff like proper stirrups and the use of shoulder patches……

Hands down, though, the most entertaining booth duo in recent memory for the Mets had to be the weekend announcing team of Gary Thorne and Tom Seaver. Before they started doing double duty on SNY and the CW-11, the Mets had different announcing teams for FSNY/MSG and WPIX-11. The cable side had the horrendous Fran Healy, Ted Robinson, Howie Rose (both very underrated play-by-play guys IMHO), and Mex. The WPIX side had Thorne and Seaver. Keeping in mind that these were the tempestuous Bobby Valentine years, there was never a shortage of tabloid fodder, and Thorne and Seaver would take it and run with it. They had no problem ripping Valentine, or the Mets, on the air, and on more than one occasion infuriated Mets ownership with their honesty and habit of calling a spade a spade. These two did not sugarcoat anything. Eventually it got Thorne fired (under the guise that his ESPN hockey duties were interfering with this Mets work) and led to the hiring of Dave O’Brien, who ironically was almost a dead-ringer for Thorne vocally, and whose ESPN MLS and baseball work interfered more with his Mets duties than Thorne.

Sorry for the departure from uni-talk.

I checked back through here- apparently must have been the only person watching Det-TB earlier on Extra Innings when they announced new D-Rays unis for 2008- said they fast-tracked it and would have done it sooner if they could have

[quote comment=”94143″]It is my understanding that Nike started making basketball shoes in the mid 70’s. In fact, due to their close proximity to Portland (Beaverton is HQ for Swooshville) their famous ‘Blazer’ sneaker was inspired by/for the Portland Trail’Blazers’ blah blah[/quote]

reminds me of growing up in western WA, when we all wore Nikes before you BANDWAGONERS jacked our style…

:)

[quote comment=”94380″]Aside from the torn pant leg, note that the American flag is worn backwards by Brad Snyder as well.

Did you mean he’s wearing the flag on the wrong sleeve? The flag itself is displayed just fine.[/quote]

Nope. Should be on the other sleeve due to the way the field of blue is situated. The field of blue should either be in the top right corner of the patch, or the patch should be on the other sleeve.

link also wore this version.

[quote]• I can remember the first time I saw the catalog page with the little uniform swatches shown at the left side of this photo. “Man,” I thought, “I sure would love to have some catalogs like that!” Now, of course, I do.[/quote]

Some gems in your shot of the swatches!
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“BROOKLYN” down the buttonline. Awesome.

“BRAVES” with the “V” in the buttonline. Quirky.

And a MLB team with an elephant logo? Explain. Somebody. Please.