Very Tragic

anyone see the stripey socks on the cardinals starting pitcher on saturday?

Paul, that 1911 Dodgers photo may be from the pre-number era where some teams toyed with using different hosiery to denote position.

Hi

Finally a team that looked like the New York Mets played yesterday ,Blue caps and pinstripes the past and the future.

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Regarding the Dodgers “LA” cap logo ,when the team was in Brooklyn they where synominous with the thin line but nicely curved “B” on there caps ,but when the team moved to Los Angeles they went for a very straight Block “LA” font on the cap logo ,why did they choose this style? when the Angels came a few years later they wore a more curved “LA” on there caps which if the Dodgers used this style with thinner white lines in the style of the Brooklyn “B” cap would surely have fit in better with the franchise history.

Les

As far as on-deck circles go, i was at a cards game last week, and they had a cards logo for the home circle and the NL logo for the away circle. The New Era stuff must just be a Mets thing.

In the Sox game last night, Jason Varitek had the Jackie Robinson sticker on the back side his catcher’s helmet, so when he took the mask off it was visible to the audience. I’m looking for a shot now.
Not sure why the team wore patches instead of helmet stickers. Seeing Papi in 42, though, kinda reminded me of this link.

[quote comment=”74482″][quote comment=”74480″]Correct me if I’m wrong, but it sure looks to me like two of the guys in that “Brooklyn Dodgers” photo have a Detriot Tigers D on their jerseys. They are next to each other off to the left side of the photo, the 2nd and 3rd guys in.[/quote]

Brooklyn used the link in 1907-1908.[/quote]

Thanks!

The new MLS name-on-back regulation is as dumb as it gets. Why, in this instance, do they try to emulate the No Fun League?!? Trying to be more professional is insane. They need fannies in the seats. It would be a better idea to ENCOURAGE this! So, the MLS somehow sees all the other soccer leagues around the world as unprofessional because they allow nicknames on their shirts?!? Idiots.

[quote comment=”74475″]Paul, that 1911 Dodgers photo may be from the pre-number era where some teams toyed with using different hosiery to denote position.[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing; but after some research, discovered that the sock color-by-position designation was decreed by the NL briefly in the 1880’s. It still wouldn’t explain for the other varying uniform jerseys, caps, etc.

I think the Red Sox were wearing the helmet stickers, just on their caps. I remember seeing Jonathan Papelbon at the end of the game, and seeing a shiny reflection coming off the logo that made it look like glossy paper.

Can’t find picture evidence right now, but i’m pretty sure Manny was wearing the sticker on the right side of his cap, while everyone one else had it on the left.

New York Red Bulls of MLS also had VT logos on their kits. link

[quote comment=”74493″]I think the Red Sox were wearing the helmet stickers, just on their caps. I remember seeing Jonathan Papelbon at the end of the game, and seeing a shiny reflection coming off the logo that made it look like glossy paper.[/quote]

You are correct.

And Manny did have his sticker on the other side of his hat, I guess just to be different, or to be “Manny”.

Anyone else hear the ESPN ad for Sunday Night Baseball for next Sunday’s Cubs-Cards? The line of note was “…takes on Albert Pujols and the World Champion CUBS”! My wife heard this as well and asked me if I just heard what ESPN said.

On Monday, President Bush will welcome Coach Dungy and the Super Bowl XLI Champion Colts to the White House to congratulate them on their victory…..and someone walks away with a new jersey…..

[quote comment=”74503″]link I’m surprised Paul let that one go.[/quote]

A trade off, do you go high cuffed properly and show the logos on your socks, or do you go pajama pants and cover the logos? Chinese riddle for you.

Auburn’s Under Armour logos are no worse than, say, Nike’s logos on the Texas unis. Perhaps UA is trying to get the word out that they make baseball apparel by displaying their logo prominently on the jersey and socks?

link

[quote comment=”74509″][quote comment=”74503″]link I’m surprised Paul let that one go.[/quote]

A trade off, do you go high cuffed properly and show the logos on your socks, or do you go pajama pants and cover the logos? Chinese riddle for you.[/quote]

did anyone else notice that the Auburn player has VT written on his arm? kind of an odd placement for it.

and a quick question: how does just putting last names on jerseys professionalize a sport? i think thats the worst excuse i’ve heard.

[quote comment=”74496″]I know Wrigley Field has a Cubs logo for their on deck circle – not sure what is there for the visitors, though[/quote]

I’m pretty sure it’s the visiting team’s logo. I noticed it sometime this weekend; I was surprised to see the birds on a bat anywhere at Wrigley Field. (other than on the scores of Cards fans, of course!)

There was a hug new era logo/banner at Comerica Park on saturday behind the on deck circle by the tigers dugout (third base side) but didnt see the first base side

[quote comment=”74519″]Interesting note from link. Since the Sox were wearing their St. Patty’s day green, someone in the local media said they thought it was the first time the Sox had ever worn names on the backs of their jerseys at a home game.[/quote]
You know link mentioned it right?

Kinda cool, one of the link caps won this weekend

[quote comment=”74503″]link I’m surprised Paul let that one go.[/quote]
Anyone else notice the fact that Under Armor and Auburn University might be the most appropriate combination of Uni-supplier and university?

Paul:

Cubs put down the visting team’s logo on the visiting team on-deck circle.

Given the white tops of David Wright’s cleats, they would have looked even smarter with apprpriately worn stirrups with the white sanitary portion matching up with the white tops of the cleats, it would give almost a football spat-type effect.

On Saturday, I was photographing the local (Chelsea, MI) high school baseball team, and later in the game, one of the players stepped in front as he warmed up for his turn at the plate. At that point, I couldn’t help but look at the back of his batting helmet, and something caught my eye. There was link on the back of the helmet, and though I know nothing about it, I remembered seeing it appear at least once or twice here on Uni Watch. Normally I wouldn’t be photographing the back of anyone’s helmet, but this time I did, solely out of curiosity. So I’m hoping you all will address my curiosity: what is the logo, and why have I seen it here before?

[quote comment=”74537″]On Saturday, I was photographing the local (Chelsea, MI) high school baseball team, and later in the game, one of the players stepped in front as he warmed up for his turn at the plate. At that point, I couldn’t help but look at the back of his batting helmet, and something caught my eye. There was link on the back of the helmet, and though I know nothing about it, I remembered seeing it appear at least once or twice here on Uni Watch. Normally I wouldn’t be photographing the back of anyone’s helmet, but this time I did, solely out of curiosity. So I’m hoping you all will address my curiosity: what is the logo, and why have I seen it here before?[/quote]

The logo is the linkof the helmet.

[quote comment=”74496″]I know Wrigley Field has a Cubs logo for their on deck circle – not sure what is there for the visitors, though[/quote]

Hmmm. I would have thought they’d have a ‘For Sale’ sign there.

There was a hug new era logo/banner at Comerica Park on saturday behind the on deck circle by the tigers dugout (third base side) but didnt see the first base side

There were New Era signs by both dugouts. On the third base side (Tigers’ dugout), the banner featured the Tigers’ home cap. On the first base side (visitors’ dugout) it featured the Tigers’ road cap.

[quote comment=”74514″]Anyone notice that a bunch of the Mets were wearing the old blue hats yesterday?

Even Willie Randolph had grey under the brim of his blue hat.

I was under the assumption that all 2007 hats were going to have black under the brim.

Am I wrong or what?[/quote]

I bought a 59fifty at Citizens Bank Park last week that was made of wool and had a grey underbrim. (Things that make you go “Hmmmm.”)

went to the yankees-indians game last wednesday and they too had new era on deck circles.

[quote comment=”74556″][quote comment=”74514″]Anyone notice that a bunch of the Mets were wearing the old blue hats yesterday?

Even Willie Randolph had grey under the brim of his blue hat.

I was under the assumption that all 2007 hats were going to have black under the brim.

Am I wrong or what?[/quote]

I bought a 59fifty at Citizens Bank Park last week that was made of wool and had a grey underbrim. (Things that make you go “Hmmmm.”)[/quote]

link

Weird……….it even says “Performance undervisor is black to reduce glare.”

Paul??

Just because they switched to the new 59Fifties doesn’t mean that the old ones just disappeared. I’m sure there are plenty of them out there and still being sold at regular prices or, if you’re lucky, at a discounted rate.

The first thing that caught my eye with the photo of the 1911 Brooklyn Dodgers “team” was that, while there are reflections in front of the team of the buildings and trees, there are no reflections of the players themselves. As someone who uses Photoshop for eight or nine hours a day, I’m guessing there’s been some alterations maybe? Just a thought.

[quote comment=”74563″][quote comment=”74556″][quote comment=”74514″]Anyone notice that a bunch of the Mets were wearing the old blue hats yesterday?

Even Willie Randolph had grey under the brim of his blue hat.

I was under the assumption that all 2007 hats were going to have black under the brim.

Am I wrong or what?[/quote]

I bought a 59fifty at Citizens Bank Park last week that was made of wool and had a grey underbrim. (Things that make you go “Hmmmm.”)[/quote]

link

Weird……….it even says “Performance undervisor is black to reduce glare.”

Paul??[/quote]

You can still buy last year’s 5950 model at team stores all over they run out, and you can also still find them online at mlb.com. But they are no longer in production. This isn’t really strange or surprising.

Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll!

One guy that was missed in the linked “Bespectacled Players” article, and my personal fave – Eric Plunk, who on his less than effective days was known as Eric “Ker” Plunk. The guy looked a bit like that turtle from the kid’s cartoon on PBS and wore some pretty LARGE glasses in his days with the Indians of the mid-90’s.

[quote comment=”74571″][quote comment=”74563″][quote comment=”74556″][quote comment=”74514″]Anyone notice that a bunch of the Mets were wearing the old blue hats yesterday?

Even Willie Randolph had grey under the brim of his blue hat.

I was under the assumption that all 2007 hats were going to have black under the brim.

Am I wrong or what?[/quote]

I bought a 59fifty at Citizens Bank Park last week that was made of wool and had a grey underbrim. (Things that make you go “Hmmmm.”)[/quote]

link

Weird……….it even says “Performance undervisor is black to reduce glare.”

Paul??[/quote]

You can still buy last year’s 5950 model at team stores all over they run out, and you can also still find them online at mlb.com. But they are no longer in production. This isn’t really strange or surprising.[/quote]

My main question is………yesterday, why was Willie Randolph still wearing last year’s hat with the grey undervisor?

The Denver Broncos had a Columbine helmet decal… i cant find any great pictures, link

A little googling (and a memory jog) showed that link was wearing #00 for the spurs at the time.

Paul Bako was not alone in wearing a Virginia Tech wristband, as the entire Orioles team did. Here’s a link of Brian Roberts and Melvin Mora sporting the tribute.

Could someone explain why the Los Angeles Dodgers uniform has a red number on the front of the jersey and red is used nowhere else in the uniform. Was there some original significance to this or just a fashion decision

[quote comment=”74579″][quote comment=”74571″][quote comment=”74563″][quote comment=”74556″][quote comment=”74514″]Anyone notice that a bunch of the Mets were wearing the old blue hats yesterday?

Even Willie Randolph had grey under the brim of his blue hat.

I was under the assumption that all 2007 hats were going to have black under the brim.

Am I wrong or what?[/quote]

I bought a 59fifty at Citizens Bank Park last week that was made of wool and had a grey underbrim. (Things that make you go “Hmmmm.”)[/quote]

link

Weird……….it even says “Performance undervisor is black to reduce glare.”

Paul??[/quote]

You can still buy last year’s 5950 model at team stores all over they run out, and you can also still find them online at mlb.com. But they are no longer in production. This isn’t really strange or surprising.[/quote]

My main question is………yesterday, why was Willie Randolph still wearing last year’s hat with the grey undervisor?[/quote]

Aaron Heilmann wasn’t wearing the new cap yesterday either.

[quote comment=”74600″][quote comment=”74579″][quote comment=”74571″][quote comment=”74563″][quote comment=”74556″][quote comment=”74514″]Anyone notice that a bunch of the Mets were wearing the old blue hats yesterday?

Even Willie Randolph had grey under the brim of his blue hat.

I was under the assumption that all 2007 hats were going to have black under the brim.

Am I wrong or what?[/quote]

I bought a 59fifty at Citizens Bank Park last week that was made of wool and had a grey underbrim. (Things that make you go “Hmmmm.”)[/quote]

link

Weird……….it even says “Performance undervisor is black to reduce glare.”

Paul??[/quote]

You can still buy last year’s 5950 model at team stores all over they run out, and you can also still find them online at mlb.com. But they are no longer in production. This isn’t really strange or surprising.[/quote]

My main question is………yesterday, why was Willie Randolph still wearing last year’s hat with the grey undervisor?[/quote]

Aaron Heilmann wasn’t wearing the new cap yesterday either.[/quote]

Oops, forgot the link. link

[quote comment=”74580″][quote comment=”74573″]Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll![/quote]
The fisheye effect is because old cameras had to physically rotate in order to create a wide-angle image. Notice the line drawn on the ground at the feet of the players — this line was actually a semicircle drawn around the camera, and the rotation of the camera makes it look like they are standing in a straight line. The background, which actually IS in a straight line, gets the fisheye treatment.[/quote]

Yes, it looks like a genuine old panoramic photo. It doesn’t seem to me that mysterious that the shirts and socks are different. Team owners of the time were notoriously stingy, so why wouldn’t some players have uniforms that were a 2 or 3 years old? (Especially if they weren’t starters?) Or maybe it was Spring training, etc. In those days, things seemed less standardized, and teams were not concerned with things like batting practice jerseys, etc.

It was s different time, when even the nicknames for teams were not set in stone. (I believe they were called the “Superbas” rather than Dodgers in those days.) The players in that photo would probably wonder what the players in a photo from today were up to, with the baggy pants, “do-rags” under their caps, flashy shoes, etc.

So I’m sitting in the library on campus and notice a guy walking by with one of link on. After reading all the comments yesterday, I thought I had seen the last of it. I guess not.

The link player also has “VT” written just below his elbow.

I’m pretty sure that the late Bison Dele wore #8 for the Pistons because it’s the infinity symbol sideways… I can’t believe that he’s the only athlete to do so….

Let’s try smaller, partial comments:

Someone mentioned on one of the weekend threads that link had written “Gil 0” on his shoes as some sort of tribute to the injured link. Indeed — right up near the collar on the lateral side.

[quote comment=”74612″][quote comment=”74573″]Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll![/quote]
[quote comment=”74580″][quote comment=”74573″]Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll![/quote]
The fisheye effect is because old cameras had to physically rotate in order to create a wide-angle image. Notice the line drawn on the ground at the feet of the players — this line was actually a semicircle drawn around the camera, and the rotation of the camera makes it look like they are standing in a straight line. The background, which actually IS in a straight line, gets the fisheye treatment.[/quote]
[quote comment=”74580″][quote comment=”74573″]Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll![/quote]
The fisheye effect is because old cameras had to physically rotate in order to create a wide-angle image. Notice the line drawn on the ground at the feet of the players — this line was actually a semicircle drawn around the camera, and the rotation of the camera makes it look like they are standing in a straight line. The background, which actually IS in a straight line, gets the fisheye treatment.[/quote]

I can’t find the picture on the web, but I remember seeing a similar picture of the golfers from an early 1900 U.S. Open Golf tourney where two jokers ran behind the camera as it did it’s pan and they are standing on both the left and right sides of the group. I’ll post here if I can find it.[/quote]

I’ve seen many High School Senior Class pictures with this prank done.

And finally, on the Va-Tech note:

link, another Adidas endorser among the Wizards, scrawled a makeshift, link onto his shoes. Or maybe it’s just a “V” and a “T”.

[quote comment=”74579″][quote comment=”74571″][quote comment=”74563″][quote comment=”74556″][quote comment=”74514″]Anyone notice that a bunch of the Mets were wearing the old blue hats yesterday?

Even Willie Randolph had grey under the brim of his blue hat.

I was under the assumption that all 2007 hats were going to have black under the brim.

Am I wrong or what?[/quote]

I bought a 59fifty at Citizens Bank Park last week that was made of wool and had a grey underbrim. (Things that make you go “Hmmmm.”)[/quote]

link

Weird……….it even says “Performance undervisor is black to reduce glare.”

Paul??[/quote]

You can still buy last year’s 5950 model at team stores all over they run out, and you can also still find them online at mlb.com. But they are no longer in production. This isn’t really strange or surprising.[/quote]

My main question is………yesterday, why was Willie Randolph still wearing last year’s hat with the grey undervisor?[/quote]

Maybe he likes the wool-blend instead of the polyester model

[quote comment=”74486″]David [quote comment=”74506″][quote comment=”74490″][quote comment=”74486″]David Wright was wearing the Nike Shox Monster Metal. They were obviously customized for him, but they are not his ‘signature model’.

It was so refreshing to see the Mets wearing the blue caps this weekend.[/quote]

The TBS announcers (particularly Don Sutton?) were ragging on Wright’s shoes for the entire game, (jokingly) suggesting that maybe the white tops was causing him problems while batting. Don did seem to like the traditional Mets uniforms, though.[/quote]

That was Joe Simpson, not Don Sutton. Sutton works for MASN and the Nationals now. And, yes, Wright’s shoes are horrendous. Just like his batting stats against Atlanta this weekend.

Go Braves![/quote]
Wright was wearing the Nike Shox Monster Metal. They were obviously customized for him, but they are not his ‘signature model’.

It was so refreshing to see the Mets wearing the blue caps this weekend.[/quote]

Wright has been wearing those customized Monsters for a while now, but I suspect he’ll be wearing the Nike Shox Fuse Metal pretty soon, since Nike’s 2008 cleats are starting to hit the field. The first I’ve seen of the new models were link this weekend, which are the new Nike 5-Tools. You can see those and the Shox Fuse cleats link, and the full footwear and equipment catalog link.

Paul,

Now batting. Shortstop. #8. Cal Ripken Jr.

[quote comment=”74501″][quote comment=”74493″]I think the Red Sox were wearing the helmet stickers, just on their caps. I remember seeing Jonathan Papelbon at the end of the game, and seeing a shiny reflection coming off the logo that made it look like glossy paper.[/quote]

You are correct.

And Manny did have his sticker on the other side of his hat, I guess just to be different, or to be “Manny”.[/quote]

Not only that, he also had moved the sticker to the top of the bill on his hat by the 8th or 9th inning, I hope someone can get a screen grab of it. I remember him fielding a fly ball and seeing that and thinking “he represents everything that is wrong about how to wear a baseball uniform, from head to toe.” He can’t even be a part of a tribute without bringing it down a peg or two.

Also, Paul, Randy Johnson took #41 for 2 reasons when he joined the Yankees in 2005. First because 51 was taken by Bernie Williams, but 41 was also selected because he was 41 years old when signing the Yankees contract to prove he could still pitch up to his expectations.

The Astros and Phillies will wear #42 tonight to make up for their Jackie Robinson day rainout.
link

Concerning the photo of the 1911 Dodgers. On the left side, in the background, there’s a small mountain, not part of the topography of Brooklyn. On the very left edge, behind the smiling face of the half-cropped civilian, are two bare trees. The Dodgers held spring training in 1910-1912 in Hot Springs, AR. Thus, the mini-mountain (Arkansas) and the trees (March) But here’s the kicker: behind the players is a building with it’s name clearly on the front: Majestic. Here’s another picture of the
Concerning the photo of the 1911 Dodgers. On the left side, in the background, there’s a small mountain, not part of the topography of Brooklyn. On the very left edge, behind the smiling face of the half-cropped civilian, are two bare trees. The Dodgers held spring training in 1910-1912 in Hot Springs, AR. Thus, the mini-mountain (Arkansas) and the trees (March) But here’s the kicker: behind the players is a building with it’s name clearly on the front: Majestic. Here’s another picture of the
link in Hot Springs, AR.

The photo was probably taken early in the morning before catching a train to New York, or embarking on a barnstorming route toward NYC. These are the players that made the team, dressed in a variety of older uni’s, good for spring training use. Keep in mind it’s probably 5 or 6 am, and the players that made the team are most likely hung over, so the probably grabbed whatever uni’s were still unpacked for the photo.

Case solved.

[quote comment=”74655″]Concerning the photo of the 1911 Dodgers. On the left side, in the background, there’s a small mountain, not part of the topography of Brooklyn. On the very left edge, behind the smiling face of the half-cropped civilian, are two bare trees. The Dodgers held spring training in 1910-1912 in Hot Springs, AR. Thus, the mini-mountain (Arkansas) and the trees (March) But here’s the kicker: behind the players is a building with it’s name clearly on the front: Majestic. Here’s another picture of the
Concerning the photo of the 1911 Dodgers. On the left side, in the background, there’s a small mountain, not part of the topography of Brooklyn. On the very left edge, behind the smiling face of the half-cropped civilian, are two bare trees. The Dodgers held spring training in 1910-1912 in Hot Springs, AR. Thus, the mini-mountain (Arkansas) and the trees (March) But here’s the kicker: behind the players is a building with it’s name clearly on the front: Majestic. Here’s another picture of the
link in Hot Springs, AR.

The photo was probably taken early in the morning before catching a train to New York, or embarking on a barnstorming route toward NYC. These are the players that made the team, dressed in a variety of older uni’s, good for spring training use. Keep in mind it’s probably 5 or 6 am, and the players that made the team are most likely hung over, so the probably grabbed whatever uni’s were still unpacked for the photo.

Case solved.[/quote]

That was ome nice detective work.

[quote comment=”74606″]I have to say the whole MLS thing regarding no nicknames is so incredibly dumb. Nicknames are a part of soccer, it provides the game with personality and makes people memorable. I can think of a number of Portuguese and Brazilian players who go by a single name: Deco, Pauleta, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, etc.

The article specifically stated that nicknames for Brazilian/Portuguese players would be permitted on MLS jerseys.[/quote]

I understand that, I was just using it as an example of how nicknames make players more recognizable. What if someone is like me, an American born person who is also a Portuguese citizen, who wanted to just use my first name to play ball, would I be denied the opportunity because I was born in the states?

[quote comment=”74615″]

The rule is fair. There was a guy on Columbus who had “Loco” on his jersey. Later he had it changed to his actual last name. This rule prevents “He Hate Me” junk on the jerseys.

I think a guy like Cobi Jones (as much as I hate him) has done enough for US soccer and MLS to warrant having his first name on his jersey. It’s not like you can’t pick out the little guy (and his Sideshow Bob hair) on the field.[/quote]

No offense to football players, but I think they’re more likely to come up with dumb nicknames than soccer players. Some limits are fair, someone can’t just make up a nickname when they start playing just because they think it’s cool, like “He Hate me” which has no basis on real life. But if someone has been called a certain name since they were kids, I think it’s fair to allow them to use that name as their identity. I’m probably making a big deal out of nothing, because I can’t think of any player who isn’t Spanish or Portuguese speaking who only goes by a nickname.

#115 by Michael Emody on 04.23.07 2:20 pm

Great work, Sherlock!

if the rules of the league concerning uniformity and the way that player names are represented state that only surnames are to represent the player on a jersey, i really dont see how anyone can argue that.

because it is done on the international level and in europe, doesnt mean it has to follow through to the states and its league.

[quote comment=”74487″]The new MLS name-on-back regulation is as dumb as it gets. Why, in this instance, do they try to emulate the No Fun League?!? Trying to be more professional is insane. They need fannies in the seats. It would be a better idea to ENCOURAGE this! So, the MLS somehow sees all the other soccer leagues around the world as unprofessional because they allow nicknames on their shirts?!? Idiots.[/quote]

While it may sound stupid, I actually agree. The only players you really see with their first or nick names ont he uniform is the brazilian/portuguese, and they will be allowed in MLS, a la Fred at DC. I really dont see the big deal, Cobi and Herculez shoudl be wearing their surnames

[quote comment=”74612″][quote comment=”74573″]Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll![/quote]
[quote comment=”74580″][quote comment=”74573″]Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll![/quote]
The fisheye effect is because old cameras had to physically rotate in order to create a wide-angle image. Notice the line drawn on the ground at the feet of the players — this line was actually a semicircle drawn around the camera, and the rotation of the camera makes it look like they are standing in a straight line. The background, which actually IS in a straight line, gets the fisheye treatment.[/quote]
[quote comment=”74580″][quote comment=”74573″]Also the fact that the background has a fisheye lens effect while the players don’t. I’m not saying the the whole thing is a fake, maybe it’s done for design reasons? Maybe the whole thing is a composited from still shots of each player? Maybe it’s a conspiracy! Someone check for a second shooter on the grassy knoll![/quote]
The fisheye effect is because old cameras had to physically rotate in order to create a wide-angle image. Notice the line drawn on the ground at the feet of the players — this line was actually a semicircle drawn around the camera, and the rotation of the camera makes it look like they are standing in a straight line. The background, which actually IS in a straight line, gets the fisheye treatment.[/quote]

I can’t find the picture on the web, but I remember seeing a similar picture of the golfers from an early 1900 U.S. Open Golf tourney where two jokers ran behind the camera as it did it’s pan and they are standing on both the left and right sides of the group. I’ll post here if I can find it.[/quote]

i did this on my college class picture, taking a picture of 1,000 kidslined up is difficult

[quote comment=”74611″]So I’m sitting in the library on campus and notice a guy walking by with one of link on. After reading all the comments yesterday, I thought I had seen the last of it. I guess not.[/quote]

MGreen, it is your duty as a Uni-Watch citizen to go up to this guy and whap that thing off his head. He will thank you for it later.

I think we have covered nude jocularity before. Here is some more (no pics, don’t worry) from Brian Giles. Read the link. What if the ball hit him? That would hurt.

I’ll be honest Minna and Kim…I froze out of sheer horror that someone was actually wearing something like that. Next time I’ll be better prepared.

Regarding the MLS name regulations, I think there are is definitely inconsistency on who the MLS allows to wear their first name on their jersey. Ezra Hendrickson of the Crew is from St. Vincent and he is allowed to wear Ezra on the back of his jersey. I wish I could find a photo, but the MLS website has virtually no photos and Google didn’t help any.

[quote comment=”74689″]Regarding Ohio University’s Virginia Tech logo…

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Nice…did you notice the guy in white has a mismatched helmet/jersey number?

[quote comment=”74701″][quote comment=”74697″]I’ll be honest Minna and Kim…I froze out of sheer horror that someone was actually wearing something like that. Next time I’ll be better prepared.[/quote]

Remember, I am not advocating violence; just a whap for the person’s own good. That goes double if you see one of link, link, or link.[/quote]

I smell a new topic for Paul……….worst merchandise currently available for sale on the internet from a pro sports team. haha

As promised, POTUS and his new jersey

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Teams not from the same town as Va Tech wearing “VT” patches = Cheap sentiment masquerading as genuine concern.

It was a tragedy, but as a platform for billion-dollar commercial enterprises to show they “care,” it’s a fucking sham.

[quote comment=”74710″]Teams not from the same town as Va Tech wearing “VT” patches = Cheap sentiment masquerading as genuine concern.

It was a tragedy, but as a platform for billion-dollar commercial enterprises to show they “care,” it’s a fucking sham.[/quote]

Why do you assume that the teams don’t care? How is it a sham? I think in a case like this, people DO care, regardless of if they are connected to the town/university or not. I don’t see this as a platform for anything other than a show of support, and I’m pretty cynical.

If your argument is that they should donate some money to the school/community, etc., we don’t know if they have or haven’t. With so many things to take offense over, this is pretty low on the list.

Taken from the Ohio University Football website:

“The Bobcats took the opportunity to remember Ohio soccer player Sarah Merritt who passed away on March 21 and the victims of last week’s tragedy at Virginia Tech. Each player sported a Virginia Tech logo on one side of their helmet and the number 26, Merritt’s jersey number at Ohio, on the other.”

Here’s the link to the story. Third to last paragraph.

[quote comment=”74549″]As you know, I’m trying to assemble a full numerical roster of players who’ve worn a particular number for a particular reason, with at least one example for each number from 0 to 99.

Big thanks for all the help that you’ve provided so far, but I still have about two dozen gaps to fill in. Here are the numbers for which I don’t yet have specific examples:

8, 27, 35, 41, 46, 47, 48, 53, 54, 59, 61, 63, 64, 65, 67, 70, 74, 78, 82, 83, 86, and 95.

If you know of anyone in any sport who wore one of these numbers for a particular reason, please get in touch with me ASAP — thanks! (Please, no suggestions for any other numbers.)[/quote]

For #8: Joe Morgan (who had worn 18 for a while) couldn’t wear it when he got to the Reds, since Ted Kluszewski was wearing it, so he adopted #8 for Willie Stargell.

[quote comment=”74710″]Teams not from the same town as Va Tech wearing “VT” patches = Cheap sentiment masquerading as genuine concern.

It was a tragedy, but as a platform for billion-dollar commercial enterprises to show they “care,” it’s a fucking sham.[/quote]

for schools who wore hokie colors, a patch, a message, a hat, helmet decals, etc; whatever these teams did for their spring game, baseball game, softball game, lacrosse match, etc.

to say that it is masked concern because they arent from blacksburg va is ridiculous.
they ARE from the same community… the college community.

this could have happened at any of the schools listed in todays entry who had uniform tributes and unfortunately there is no guarantee that it wont happen there in the future.

these were college students showing solidarity for their fellow college students. im sure most college students have said or thought this in the last week, “jesus, that could have happened here.”

to say the concern was cheap and masked is completely insensitive.

The bespectacled ballplayer article sadly omits link, who also sports an awesome porn star moustache.

[quote comment=”74723″]The bespectacled ballplayer article sadly omits link, who also sports an awesome porn star moustache.[/quote]

Oh, and Fred should get extra bonus points for the stiped stirrups.

I believe Jose Rijo wore #27 in honor of his father-in-law, Juan Marichal.

Regarding number 47: is anyone clued into this?

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[quote comment=”74549″]As you know, I’m trying to assemble a full numerical roster of players who’ve worn a particular number for a particular reason, with at least one example for each number from 0 to 99.

Big thanks for all the help that you’ve provided so far, but I still have about two dozen gaps to fill in. Here are the numbers for which I don’t yet have specific examples:

8, 27, 35, 41, 46, 47, 48, 53, 54, 59, 61, 63, 64, 65, 67, 70, 74, 78, 82, 83, 86, and 95.

If you know of anyone in any sport who wore one of these numbers for a particular reason, please get in touch with me ASAP — thanks! (Please, no suggestions for any other numbers.)[/quote]

For #47: “NBA player Andrei Kirilenko has chosen to wear the number 47, unusual in the NBA, on his gear, because of the coincidence that his initials together with this number form the abbreviation AK-47, the name of the famous Russian rifle, named after its inventor and the year it was invented (Avtomat Kalashnikova 1947).”

That comes from Wikipedia, so take it with like 600 grains of salt, but still.

[quote comment=”74684″][quote comment=”74487″]The new MLS name-on-back regulation is as dumb as it gets. Why, in this instance, do they try to emulate the No Fun League?!? Trying to be more professional is insane. They need fannies in the seats. It would be a better idea to ENCOURAGE this! So, the MLS somehow sees all the other soccer leagues around the world as unprofessional because they allow nicknames on their shirts?!? Idiots.[/quote]

While it may sound stupid, I actually agree. The only players you really see with their first or nick names ont he uniform is the brazilian/portuguese, and they will be allowed in MLS, a la Fred at DC. I really dont see the big deal, Cobi and Herculez shoudl be wearing their surnames[/quote]

You forget all the Spanish and Turkish players plus countless others who do the same.

Just about any rule or law is inherently stupid if it says that you can’t do something but “those” people can. Sorry, you’re an American, you can’t do that.

Few years ago players of Galatasaray in Turkey used to have funny numbers, based on their hometown zipcodes. I think you could find several 50 something to 80 something in their link.

Arthur Rhodes and Bobby Abreu both wear #53, though I haven’t been able to find out if there’s a reason for it.

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27- Ron Hextall with the quebec Nordiques after the flyers traded him.

Or whatever jersey John Smoltz wore with the Tigers.

[quote comment=”74750″]oR
27- Ron Hextall with the quebec Nordiques after the flyers traded him.

Or whatever jersey John Smoltz wore with the Tigers.[/quote]
Paul is looking for the reasons players wear particular numbers.

[quote comment=”74651″]Oh. You wanted a reason WHY Cal wore #8. — Didn’t he choose it because his dad was #7 ?[/quote]

Cal Sr. didn’t wear #7 when Junior came up – Mark Belanger did. Cal Sr. wore #47 as a coach then wore #7 the year he managed.

It’s always bugged me that the O’s honored Cal Sr. by painting #7 in the 3rd base coaches box when he died. He wore #7 in a wholly forgettable year, and the team never really honored Blade Belanger when he died.

I presume the logic of the #7 honor was that #47 was active at the time (Jesse Orosco, who will be wearing #47 for someone somewhere for the next 138 years, give or take).

And it appears the Columbus Destroyers are also wearing the VT polos…

This is of course in addition to helmet decals…and logos on at least on of the sideline walls…

dale davis gave a kid in need in the detroit area some nice shoes for his graduation. they were size 18’s. thought that was interesting. happens to be dale davis’ shoe size as well.

Shawn Green watch…….he just lost his hat twice in the span of about 4 pitches chasing foul balls. The second one he caught for the final out of the inning.

Good news everybody. Shin Soo Choo and his double-earflapped batting helmet are back in the bigs. The Tribe called him up to replace David Dillucci, who went on the DL.

[quote comment=”74762″]Supposedly, the 1980s and early ’90sversion of Cincinnatti’s “Mr. Red” wore 27 after the number of outs in a nine-inning game[/quote]

I always heard that they wore 27 because 1-25 represented the players on the roster, no. 26 the fans, leaving no. 27 for the mascot.

Perhaps I’m a bit cynical. No, I am cynical. I’ve been trying to imagine what the extent of tributes would be like if the Virginia Tech tragedy had happened at a university that no one had heard of before, didn’t have a recognizable logo/color scheme.

If this had happened at my alma mater, Sacramento State, or a Kansas Wesleyan University or an Albion College, would we have SEC baseball players and Arena League coaches wearing those logos?

I like to think that the tributes would be the same. I don’t know.

Watching TB/NYY right now, I’m reminded that Joe Maddon was once asked why he wore #70. He said that after changing numbers several times throughout his coaching career, he finally just decided to pick a number no one else would want.

Hands down the best #70 in the game right now.

On another note entirely, if Brian Bruney gains 30 more pounds, he will be Bob Wickman. Am I right?

I think I mentioned this a few days ago, but Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti gave up his #19 to 2B and family friend Kevin Frandsen. He then took #46 in honor of former Giants pitcher Kirk Rueter.

As a way of showing support for Wagner, Brendon and Virginia Tech, Titleist sent 100 maroon golf caps with Titleist on the front and VT on the side for the players to wear in this week’s PGA TOUR event at TPC-Louisiana. Johnson said that all of the Titleist staff members are wearing the caps and will do so throughout the week. In addition, he received a request from The Golf Channel for something that the announcers could wear during the telecast so VT lapel pins were sent to them by overnight express.

[quote comment=”74782″]For some evidence of the “same person twice int he same picture,” take a look here. The blur under the middle arrow is her running to the other side; the camera caught her.

Also look for the idiot without a jacket. That was me.[/quote]

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[quote comment=”74784″][quote comment=”74782″]For some evidence of the “same person twice int he same picture,” take a look here. The blur under the middle arrow is her running to the other side; the camera caught her.

Also look for the idiot without a jacket. That was me.[/quote]

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Hey, is that the Close-Up program? I did that in high school, and they took a group picture and did the exact same thing — some guy ran from one end to the other. I’d forgotten all about it!

[quote comment=”74715″]Did anyone else notice how high Jon Papelbon’s 42 patch was on his hat?

It wasn’t to the bottom like most side hat patches are… it was raised way higher.[/quote]

Yeah, I caught that too. I’m guessing tht because they were stickers instead of patches, quality control wsa a little lower than usual. Kinda surprised I didn’t see more about it here today.

Demarr Johnson of the Nuggets wore #3 untill AI was traded there, then switch to #8 so Kobe’s magic would wear off on him.

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David Halberstam was link today. He was a truly amazing author. Among his sports books, link is one of my favorite books ever (about the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry when it wasn’t so damn nauseating). I’d recommend it highly to any of you who haven’t checked it out.

Also, apparently posts are timing out after a short time. That’s kinda annoying.

Kobe wore #8 because it was the number he wore a kid in Italy and because his ABCD camp numbers (143) add up to 8. He now wears 24 because that is the number he wore in high school, with the exception of his senior year at Lower Merion (PA) when he wore 33, in honor of his dad.

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[quote comment=”74771″]Perhaps I’m a bit cynical. No, I am cynical. I’ve been trying to imagine what the extent of tributes would be like if the Virginia Tech tragedy had happened at a university that no one had heard of before, didn’t have a recognizable logo/color scheme.

If this had happened at my alma mater, Sacramento State, or a Kansas Wesleyan University or an Albion College, would we have SEC baseball players and Arena League coaches wearing those logos?

I like to think that the tributes would be the same. I don’t know.[/quote]

stuby, I will agree with you on this one. I think the fact that VaTech is such a powerhouse football-wise definitely played into the magnitude of the memorials. Sadly, if this happened at MY alma mater, St. Olaf, I am pretty sure the tributes would be strictly regional.

I also agree with Christopher that the thirty gunshot deaths that happen today across the nation won’t get as much play because there is something about an anomaly, especyally one of a horrific nature, that grabs the collective consciousness and won’t let go. It’s not fair, but it’s understandable and shouldn’t take away from the heartfelt sorrow engendered across the nation.

On a lighter note, stuby, thanks for posting a pic of Jack Morris. He will always be a hero in MN. Are you a relocated Twins’ fan?

[quote comment=”74472″]anyone see the stripey socks on the cardinals starting pitcher on saturday?[/quote]
Anthony Reyes has worn the high, striped socks every since he has been in the majors. I tried to find a picture of him in the minors wearing the high socks or when he was at USC, but I was unable to do so.

[quote comment=”74819″][quote comment=”74809″][quote comment=”74771″]Perhaps I’m a bit cynical. No, I am cynical. I’ve been trying to imagine what the extent of tributes would be like if the Virginia Tech tragedy had happened at a university that no one had heard of before, didn’t have a recognizable logo/color scheme.

If this had happened at my alma mater, Sacramento State, or a Kansas Wesleyan University or an Albion College, would we have SEC baseball players and Arena League coaches wearing those logos?

I like to think that the tributes would be the same. I don’t know.[/quote]

stuby, I will agree with you on this one. I think the fact that VaTech is such a powerhouse football-wise definitely played into the magnitude of the memorials. Sadly, if this happened at MY alma mater, St. Olaf, I am pretty sure the tributes would be strictly regional.

I also agree with Christopher that the thirty gunshot deaths that happen today across the nation won’t get as much play because there is something about an anomaly, especyally one of a horrific nature, that grabs the collective consciousness and won’t let go. It’s not fair, but it’s understandable and shouldn’t take away from the heartfelt sorrow engendered across the nation.

On a lighter note, stuby, thanks for posting a pic of Jack Morris. He will always be a hero in MN. Are you a relocated Twins’ fan?[/quote]

to go off of that, those Case people know about the shooting here a few years ago, nowhere near the magnitude of VTech, but no one wore memorial patches including our own teams. so part of the reason for all of these memorial patches or gestures is because it is such a large university that almost everyone knows about[/quote]

Dan, are you talking about this?
link.

We had a pretty horrific shooting here as well. The Red Lake shooting. High school boy killed his grandfather, the grandfather’s girlfriend, then went to school and started shooting. He killed seven people there before killing himself. I don’t remember a single team paying tribute. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

[quote comment=”74810″][quote comment=”74596″]The Colorado Avalanche also wore a link in memory of the tragedy there. It was only worn in the playoffs due to the timing of the shooting in terms of the NHL season.[/quote]

Sorry, couldn’t find any closeups.[/quote]

Good job, Lord Stanley.

I did find some close-ups and clear shots of the patch, though. link. link. Klemm link as a Red Wing (2-in-1 photo!). link.

This is an old article, but the Carlton Fisk thing had been bothering me for quite some time. I decided to look into it just now and found that Japanese catchers wear 27 NOT for Fisk, but for former Yomiuri Giants catcher Masahiko Mori, who played between 1955-74. (So HE definitely didn’t wear it in honor of Fisk) The trend gained momentum with Yakult Swallows’ Akihiko Ohya, whose career more or less coincided with Fisk’s across the pond. Incidentally, aces on the Giants’ pitching staff have traditionally worn 18, and this has spread to pitchers on other teams in Japanese baseball as well. Hence, Daisuke Matsuzaka.

Mori’s playing days were the golden era of the Giants, and he won 12 titles as a player including 9 straight from 1965-73. In 1978, Mori became coach for the Swallows, where Charlie Manuel played. In the late 80’s to early 90’s, he managed the Seibu Lions, winning 6 titles. (and for some reason changed his first name to Masa-aki) He didn’t manage former Lions Kaz Matsui or Matsuzaka, but did manage current ESPN analyst Orestes Destrade. Later with the Yokohama Bay Stars, he turned now-Dodger Takashi Saito into a closer.

Anyway, it appears to be sheer coincidence that so many Japanese catchers wear Carlton Fisk’s number.