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‘How Are They Gonna Know I’m a Hurricane?!’

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As many of you have heard by now, Miami will have new football uniforms next season. Naturally, it’s premature to judge a set simply on the basis of an illustration schematic, but that’s never stopped us before, so let’s take a look:

Jerseys: The uni numbers are supposedly wider, although it’s hard to tell from the illo. The bigger issue is that handlebar piping, which looks pretty bad on the front (where you can bet that it won’t look nearly so slick and streamlined when it’s stretched over a 300-pound lineman’s torso) and totally bogus on the back. Nameplates look kinda small too, although I’ve gotta believe the type will be bigger on the actual jerseys. Meanwhile, count all the seams and panels — it’s a friggin’ crazy quilt!

Pants: I’m gonna say it right now: I love — love — how the top stripe sort of crosses over the smaller stripe. Looks so damn cool. Did I mention that I love it? I wish the top stripes didn’t wrap all the way around to the butt cheeks, but maybe it’ll create a sort of faux belt effect — need to see it on an actual player before deciding how much to hate it. And what’s that little logo on the rear-center belt loop? Closer inspection reveals it to be the team’s secondary ibis/hurricane logo. I’m generally opposed to putting any logo in that spot (the only other example I can think of is the Rice University baseball team), but having a storm cloud emerging from the players’ butt cracks seems like a particularly bad idea, y’know?

All in all, on a scale of one to five quacks (one being relative normalcy, five being a full-on U. of Oregon nightmare), I’d rate this a fairly tame 2.5.

NBA Raffle Reminder: In case you missed it on Friday, I’m raffling off a Tracy McGrady NBA All-Star jersey. Entries are running fairly slow at the moment, so your odds of winning aren’t too shabby, at least for now. For details, scroll down to the “Yet Another Raffle” section of Friday’s entry.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The player names on the back of the North Texas State jerseys sure are big. … System of Dress undershirt sighting here (good catch by Bryan Redemske). … Fascinating note from Matt Fitzpatrick, who recently took a tour of Chase Field, the Diamondbacks’ stadium: “The tour guide said the team decided last season to add a red Sunday jersey for this year and filed the proper paperwork with MLB. The league responded by asking if the Diamondbacks would instead consider a complete overhaul and sent out a representative to make a presentation to the team. MLB wanted colors that better reflected the region, but the guide noted that Arizona merchandise sales had dropped to 29th in the league last year. He said his info came straight from the team president and he seemed pretty reliable. I know that leagues always have input but I am disturbed by the idea that they are now initiating uniform changes.” … Jeremy Brahm notes that Chunichi Dragons catcher Masaumi Shimizu wears his uni number on this throat protector. … Also from Jeremy: Amusing crackpot-ish article here about cricket team colo(u)rs. … And yet one more from Jeremy: “Hichori Morimoto has been named an ambassador for the Hokkaido Shinkansen Construction Promotion Association. So to enter the field, he wore a special bullet train hat, which matches the one shown on the Association’s home page.” … The Red Sox, who wore green jerseys for St. Patrick’s Day, plan to wear them again on April 12th as a tribute to Red Auerbach. Whatever you think of the symbolism (hmmm, Red Auerbach, Red Sox), I believe this is the first time a team has uni-memorialized someone from another sport since 2000, when the Expos wore that black “9” for Rocket Richard. … Good news from Flushing, where an inside source reports, “The Mets’ black uniforms are to be used less this season. How much less isn’t yet clear.” … Reprinted from Saturday’s comments: Good PDF article here about U. of Wisconsin’s seemingly never-ending battle against motion-W logo ripoffs. … Good article here about USC’s Ryan Francis memorial patch. … If you skip ahead about two-thirds of the way through this podcast, you’ll hear some interesting comments about uniform numbers from John Madden (with thanks to Uni Watch ukulele songstress Christine Freeman). … A few days ago there was a good discussion in the comments section about official scorers wearing zebra-striped shirts at college and high school basketball games. But Brian Temke noticed an interesting variation on this theme during the Pitt/VCU game: The scorer was wearing a zebra-striped vest. … For those sad, benighted few who might not get the reference in today’s headline, click here.

 
  
 
Comments (115)

    North Texas State? I’m assuming you mean the University of North Texas. We haven’t been NTSU since 1988.

    I wonder what kind of scientific research went into the bottom jersey slit in the front and back vs. the old slits on the sides. What does it accomplish? Did Nike develop this thing?

    There was a time (1950s? early 1960s?) when Miami sported a representation of the hurricane warning flag on their jersey shoulders.

    Looks like the Devil Rays new color scheme will be unveiled by the end of March.

    link

    The Devil Rays also participated in the St. Patrick’s Day fun…

    link

    link

    Notice the white Miami pants have laces but the orange and green ones don’t? Is this just an omission in the illustration or are they really going with different styles?

    The UW article has a brief aside about the use of Bucky. As a happy owner of a contraband “Fuck ’em Bucky” t-shirt, I find the university’s exclusive claim on the Bucky logo galling for several reasons: UW didn’t create the logo (an LA agency did); UW was not the first Madison institution to use the logo (a local bookstore was); the logo was 40+ years old when the UW claimed it as a trademark; and the UW created link of the logo a couple years ago that is unambiguously distinct from the link. Protect the new logo, but let people do what they please with the old one.

    This logo protection racket is really getting ugly.

    link

    I wouldn’t mind so much if the money from logo-plastered sales went to scholarships or something EDUCATION-RELATED, but I seriously doubt it.

    [quote comment=”61487″]North Texas State? I’m assuming you mean the University of North Texas. We haven’t been NTSU since 1988.[/quote]

    I knew that if any of the North Texas faithful read this site, they would jump on the “North Texas State” reference. They are very testy about it.

    Good news from Flushing, where an inside source reports, “The Mets’ black uniforms are to be used less this season. How much less isn’t yet clear.”

    If you’re keeping score, the Mets wore black 18 times (22.22%) and 19 times away from Shea (23.46%) last year.

    [quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    In the game yesterday it looked like they stole them from a High School freshman team. Maybe I’m just bitter because I had Wisky goin to the Final 4.

    [quote comment=”61499″]Good news from Flushing, where an inside source reports, “The Mets’ black uniforms are to be used less this season. How much less isn’t yet clear.”

    If you’re keeping score, the Mets wore black 18 times (22.22%) and 19 times away from Shea (23.46%) last year.[/quote]
    Does that figure account for just black jerseys, or black hats and batting helmets also?

    Re: official scorers wearing “referee” shirts… Arkansas State University’s longtime official scorer, Dr. Joel Gambill, told me that the NCAA recommends but does not require that the basketball official scorer 1) wear a “ref”-striped shirt, and 2) be a faculty member not employed by the school’s Athletic Department! (Dr. Gambill is a Professor of Journalism in ASU’s College of Communications, so he qualifies on both counts.)

    I wonder how many of the official scorers in the NCAA tourney are faculty members of the “host” schools?

    The striping on the Miami jersey appears to mimic the “U” logo from their helmet.

    I think Wisconsin’s motion W logo is one of the worst in college sports. Instead of worrying about losing the trademark, they should abandon the logo altogether.

    Is it just me or does the “hat” that Hichori Morimoto is wearing looks strangely like an alien from Alien vs Predator?

    That the Tigers would wear the white “D” BP cap is odd, b/c they do have an orange cap, which would go with their road gray unis.

    link

    [quote comment=”61498″][quote comment=”61487″]North Texas State? I’m assuming you mean the University of North Texas. We haven’t been NTSU since 1988.[/quote]

    I knew that if any of the North Texas faithful read this site, they would jump on the “North Texas State” reference. They are very testy about it.[/quote]

    The athletic department has done a pretty good job of pushing the “North Texas” team name in the DFW area. I always referred to the school as “UNT”, having gone to high school close by. Even I find myself calling them North Texas rather than UNT. Sort of like how my alma mater’s athletic department pushes “TCU” rather than “Texas Christian”.

    That U of W article notes that Wisconsin “ranks fifteenth for merchandise royalties among the…universities represented by the Collegiate Licensing Company.” So I was curious who the top 10 merchandise sellers are.

    For those others that are curious, link about Texas setting records and offers a top 10 table in the left column for the 05-06 academic year.

    While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.

    [quote comment=”61515″]While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.[/quote]
    I absolutely hate when high schools use a college or pro logo. A little originality, please.

    BTW, the logo on my high school football team’s helmet was the same as Wyoming’s – way back in the early 80s.

    Like always, miami has a boat load of wierd stuff going on with their jerseys…but I think this new design is a step over the line…I mean I am getting motion sickness looking at these uniforms.

    I’ve been meaning to bring this up for a while and since HS has been mentioned I figured now is the time. My High school colors were unfortunately, gold and purple. Two things about that, our away soccer kits were made up of purple socks, purple shorts and purple jersey. Our home kit was all white. It was so dreadful that as captain i switched it, wearing white shorts witht he purple jersey away and purple shorts with white jersey at home. Also, our football team wore the michigan wolverine helmets, except in purple and gold, simply hideous. Try as I might, we could never get those uniforms switched.

    Along with the Wyoming helmet of my high school, other teams in the conference had the Green Bay/UGA/Grambling ‘G’ logo, the Falcons logo, the Clemson logo, and the Michigan helmet. I think only one school had a unique design.

    [quote comment=”61515″]While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.[/quote]
    Yeah, I don’t understand that. My high school’s logo is still a direct copy of Arizona State’s, with only the colors being scarlett and gold instead of ASU’s scheme. I’ve never heard anything about ASU being upset about it.

    I actually thought Miami’s uniforms would be much worse. Not half bad, although the jersey piping is pretty worthless (nothing like stripes that accentuate your man-boobs). But the pants are pretty cool, and Nike actually kept the overall design pretty simple.

    [quote comment=”61498″][quote comment=”61487″]North Texas State? I’m assuming you mean the University of North Texas. We haven’t been NTSU since 1988.[/quote]

    I knew that if any of the North Texas faithful read this site, they would jump on the “North Texas State” reference. They are very testy about it.[/quote]
    Well can you blame them? It kinda IS the school’s name.

    [quote comment=”61523″]I actually thought Miami’s uniforms would be much worse. Not half bad, although the jersey piping is pretty worthless (nothing like stripes that accentuate your man-boobs). But the pants are pretty cool, and Nike actually kept the overall design pretty simple.[/quote]
    I think it’s interesting that when uni changes arrive, the best reactions on here are “it could have been worse”. Not too many are passing the “good v. stupid” test. I mentioned that it looks very template-ish and I’m sure the Wildcats here in Tucson will be choosing “color option 3” of the exact same design only with a cactus on the butt. The patch-quilt thing on the jersey bears mentioning again because nike is obviously trying to incorporate some technology into the jersey – stretchy material here, wicking material there, etc. Overall a good thing. The problem comes when some school decides “hey, if it’s different material then can it be a different color”. On TV I think it’s hard to tell the panels apart as Nike does a good job of making the colors of the panels the same even though the material is different.

    Artile link about Barry Zito’s glove having different color laces than the rest of his glove. Since it could be distracting for hitters, it could be illegal.

    [quote comment=”61522″][quote comment=”61515″]While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.[/quote]
    Yeah, I don’t understand that. My high school’s logo is still a direct copy of Arizona State’s, with only the colors being scarlett and gold instead of ASU’s scheme. I’ve never heard anything about ASU being upset about it.[/quote]

    I’m not so sure how schools pick what to pursue. My high school changed mascot names in the early 90 (we were called the Redmen). I was told that the students submitted new logos and names and voted on them, with the “Crimson Pride” winning. This name never came about because the school was contacted by the University of Alabama saying that it could not be used. Instead we became the Redwings, after a semi-pro football team that played in the city long ago.

    [quote comment=”61527″][quote comment=”61522″][quote comment=”61515″]While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.[/quote]
    Yeah, I don’t understand that. My high school’s logo is still a direct copy of Arizona State’s, with only the colors being scarlett and gold instead of ASU’s scheme. I’ve never heard anything about ASU being upset about it.[/quote]

    I’m not so sure how schools pick what to pursue. My high school changed mascot names in the early 90 (we were called the Redmen). I was told that the students submitted new logos and names and voted on them, with the “Crimson Pride” winning. This name never came about because the school was contacted by the University of Alabama saying that it could not be used. Instead we became the Redwings, after a semi-pro football team that played in the city long ago.[/quote]
    Personally, I think Alabama did you all a favor.

    [quote comment=”61515″]While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.[/quote]

    Because trademarks are about the source of the underlying goods or services. If a high school has a logo that’s the exact same (or close enough) to a college logo, then what’s the source of the logo? The high school or the college? The college wants to protect its own interests – the logo comes from that particular institution.

    [quote comment=”61526″]Artile link about Barry Zito’s glove having different color laces than the rest of his glove. Since it could be distracting for hitters, it could be illegal.[/quote]

    My ball glove is brown with white lacing. I have never been called on it. I hardly think it’s noticeable in terms of hiding the ball.

    Then again, I don’t play in the Majors. :o)

    News from Port St. Lucie and Mets’ Spring Training..

    -The BP caps aren’t as bad in person.

    -The Jerseys are.

    -Each of the teams (minors, big leaguers) wear a different Mets Jersey. Including a Black one, White one, and even an Orange one. The normal guys wear the blue BPs.

    -One major leaguer had high socks in the entire group I saw.

    -EVERY minor leaguer had high socks.

    -The girls flock to David Wright. haha.

    All in all…nice to see some batting practice and them long toss it around. Saw David Wright and a trainer make a bet who can hit it over the outfield wall directly over this black tarp first. (Wright hit it over but missed the tarp, the trainer nailed it first shot, then Wright hit a monster shot on the next self toss right over.)

    If anyone is around the area I suggest you check it out, beautiful facility and nice people all around..

    I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.

    Did Paul just coin a new word today? I’ve never run across “illo” before. :)

    [quote comment=”61528″][quote comment=”61527″][quote comment=”61522″][quote comment=”61515″]While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.[/quote]
    Yeah, I don’t understand that. My high school’s logo is still a direct copy of Arizona State’s, with only the colors being scarlett and gold instead of ASU’s scheme. I’ve never heard anything about ASU being upset about it.[/quote]

    I’m not so sure how schools pick what to pursue. My high school changed mascot names in the early 90 (we were called the Redmen). I was told that the students submitted new logos and names and voted on them, with the “Crimson Pride” winning. This name never came about because the school was contacted by the University of Alabama saying that it could not be used. Instead we became the Redwings, after a semi-pro football team that played in the city long ago.[/quote]
    Personally, I think Alabama did you all a favor.[/quote]

    I agree, I just found it odd that we were not using the school’s nickname or logo. I believe that the proposed mascot was a bull dog or something. I personally like the mascot we ended up with, altough we have see black start creeping into our uniforms (with red and white being the primary colors). At first it was just in trim, but a few years ago, against the cross town rival, the coach unveiled the all black uni’s, I was not much of a fan of that.

    >While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    I think the proceeds of merch sales did not go solely to the U. It is my understanding (and this is unsubstantiated) that Alvarez got a cut of Motion W royalties. A web search for the terms of his contracts came up empty though. I’d love to know the details on that…

    [quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]

    Some high schools in my conference do a similar thing for wrestling meets. They dim audience over-head lights and put central lighting on the mat to spotlight the wrestlers. My school never did and I wish they would have. Yes our colors are purple and gold, back off :)

    link (my school). link. Not the best pictures for example, but it works.

    I went to high school in Devils Lake, ND. Our mascot had been the link for many years, since like the 1930s or something. Well I thought the uniqueness of the nickname was awesome, but obviously some people didn’t exactly think it was the best nickname to have. In my junior year, they got rid of the nickname and for football we didn’t have a nickname at all, just the “Devils Lake Football Team.” Pretty lame…well we had to choose a new nickname and the first one that was voted for by the students was the “Blaze.” That got shot down for drug connotations. Then the name “Phoenix” came up and was pretty cool considering we were going away from the old and starting anew…some stupid kid went and found a term for drug use linked to Phoenix so he could get the nickname he wanted in… “link.” I’m not a big fan to say the least.

    What is the purpose of the inverted V at the bottom of the Miami jerseys? I know this is typical of most college jerseys but is there a reason having this type of bottom instead of the tradtional shirt tail.

    [quote comment=”61542″]What is the purpose of the inverted V at the bottom of the Miami jerseys? I know this is typical of most college jerseys but is there a reason having this type of bottom instead of the tradtional shirt tail.[/quote]

    I know that with the slits on the side…it’s a little difficult to keep the jersey tucked and then there’s the problem with all that fabric around your junk and the uncomfortability. I had problems with that from my high school jerseys

    [quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]

    YES. Thank you, this has been bugging me for weeks. At first I thought there was a power outage, but now it’s gotten to the point where I can’t watch Laker games on TV anymore. It’s very disconcerting. I missed Kobe’s 65 pt and 50 pt games because of the darkened effect.

    I watched plenty of Laker games in the 80s and I don’t rememember it being that dark.

    [quote comment=”61534″]Did Paul just coin a new word today? I’ve never run across “illo” before. :)[/quote]

    Fairly common shorthand for “illustration.” Not my invention.

    NHL skate malfunctions, from link:

    “He [Pens’ Sergei Gonchar] was having problems with the skate model he used most of the season, but the last straw was when the rivets on one of his skates failed while he was handling the puck at the point during a power play at New Jersey last week.

    With one blade dislodged, he fell, allowing the Devils’ John Madden to have a long breakaway. Madden missed the net while Gonchar struggled to get back to the bench on one foot.

    Now he’s wearing a different type of skates each game.

    “I ordered five pairs from different companies, and I have to decide which one I’m going to wear in the playoffs,” he said.”

    [quote comment=”61545″][quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]

    YES. Thank you, this has been bugging me for weeks. At first I thought there was a power outage, but now it’s gotten to the point where I can’t watch Laker games on TV anymore. It’s very disconcerting. I missed Kobe’s 65 pt and 50 pt games because of the darkened effect.

    I watched plenty of Laker games in the 80s and I don’t rememember it being that dark.[/quote]

    Actually the Lights Out Phase was during the early Forum days with Chamberlin and West. I neglected to mention that.

    [quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]

    As it should be. I don’t watch a game to see the fans. I watch it for the play.

    Now, if they wouldn’t assult my ears every second (whether the ball is in play or not), it would be even better.

    “Good news from Flushing, where an inside source reports, “The Mets’ black uniforms are to be used less this season. How much less isn’t yet clear.”

    i have received 2 mailings from the mets this year (regarding season tix) and all the pamphlets/letters are done in blue/orange = no black like the past couple of seasons. my guess = by the time new shea is open, the black will be phased out completely (we can only hope)

    [quote comment=”61540″]I went to high school in Devils Lake, ND. Our mascot had been the link for many years, since like the 1930s or something. Well I thought the uniqueness of the nickname was awesome, but obviously some people didn’t exactly think it was the best nickname to have. In my junior year, they got rid of the nickname and for football we didn’t have a nickname at all, just the “Devils Lake Football Team.” Pretty lame…well we had to choose a new nickname and the first one that was voted for by the students was the “Blaze.” That got shot down for drug connotations. Then the name “Phoenix” came up and was pretty cool considering we were going away from the old and starting anew…some stupid kid went and found a term for drug use linked to Phoenix so he could get the nickname he wanted in… “link.” I’m not a big fan to say the least.[/quote]
    Hmmmmm…link a Phoenix to me.

    [quote comment=”61522″][quote comment=”61515″]While I understand why schools want to protect their logos from contraband shirts, websites, etc… Doesn’t it make sense to let high schools use them? To me it seems like free advertising. Colleges get new students from high schools, so why not do a little covert advertising?

    It’s like academic logo creep.[/quote]
    Yeah, I don’t understand that. My high school’s logo is still a direct copy of Arizona State’s, with only the colors being scarlett and gold instead of ASU’s scheme. I’ve never heard anything about ASU being upset about it.[/quote]

    The school I played in the state football championship game used the Eagle’s eagle on their helmet, except blue and black. We use the word “PANTHERS” is fancy-looking font, kind of like Florida’s.

    [quote comment=”61506″]I think Wisconsin’s motion W logo is one of the worst in college sports. Instead of worrying about losing the trademark, they should abandon the logo altogether.[/quote]

    Worst in college? Are you kidding me? It may not rank up there with the “greatest of all time”, but it is defiantly not the worst. I can think of a lot more school logos that are worse.

    Pitt – Looks like a dying cat
    Indiana – Looks like a cactus
    LSU – Where is the rest of the cat?
    Alabama – it’s a damn elephant
    St. John’s – Don’t make one letter into two
    Minnesota – The “M” is way too wide
    Georgetown – It needs an update badly
    Stanford – It’s a damn tree

    There are just my opinion, and I don’t mean to knock on these schools in any way. I am just saying I personally don’t like their logo, and think that Buckingham C. Badger and the motion “W” are way better. But, then again I am biased since I live in Sconnie, but to each his own.

    [quote comment=”61501″][quote comment=”61499″]Good news from Flushing, where an inside source reports, “The Mets’ black uniforms are to be used less this season. How much less isn’t yet clear.”

    If you’re keeping score, the Mets wore black 18 times (22.22%) and 19 times away from Shea (23.46%) last year.[/quote]
    Does that figure account for just black jerseys, or black hats and batting helmets also?[/quote]

    Has to be just jerseys. I’d say that, if the hats/helmets are included, it would be about 75 percent at home and 100 percent on the road.

    [quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.

    [quote comment=”61558″]Worst in college? Are you kidding me? It may not rank up there with the “greatest of all time”, but it is defiantly not the worst. I can think of a lot more school logos that are worse.

    Pitt – Looks like a dying cat
    Indiana – Looks like a cactus
    LSU – Where is the rest of the cat?
    Alabama – it’s a damn elephant
    St. John’s – Don’t make one letter into two
    Minnesota – The “M” is way too wide
    Georgetown – It needs an update badly
    Stanford – It’s a damn tree

    There are just my opinion, and I don’t mean to knock on these schools in any way. I am just saying I personally don’t like their logo, and think that Buckingham C. Badger and the motion “W” are way better. But, then again I am biased since I live in Sconnie, but to each his own.[/quote]
    What do you mean by that? Anyone can tell that he’s link from behind the letters.

    I like the Badger…but that wasn’t the logo in question. I think the “motion W” is pretty plain.

    [quote comment=”61510″]That the Tigers would wear the white “D” BP cap is odd, b/c they do have an orange cap, which would go with their road gray unis.

    link

    St. Louis also always wears a home cap in spring training, even with the gray unis.

    What do you mean by that? Anyone can tell that he’s link from behind the letters.

    I like the Badger…but that wasn’t the logo in question. I think the “motion W” is pretty plain.[/quote]

    You are right. I had not seen that logo for LSU. I must have been looking at an older one. And most school logos are pretty plain, or none at all, or just the name. i.e. Penn St., Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Nebraska’s football helmets. All in all I don’t think the “Motion W” is too bad, and personally I don’t think it is one of the worst in College. But again, my opinion.

    Paul, other Uni Watchers,

    Which Mets helmet is worse, the blue-black two-tone, or the all-black? (I’d have to say the two-tone…)

    [quote comment=”61568″]Paul, other Uni Watchers,

    Which Mets helmet is worse, the blue-black two-tone, or the all-black? (I’d have to say the two-tone…)[/quote]
    Can I vote for both? the 2 tone if i had to pick

    [quote comment=”61568″]Paul, other Uni Watchers,

    Which Mets helmet is worse, the blue-black two-tone, or the all-black? (I’d have to say the two-tone…)[/quote]

    I’d go with the all block. I really dislike the two tone but I like the NY on it much better. Same goes for the black cap with the blue brim compared to the all black cap.

    [quote comment=”61568″]Paul, other Uni Watchers,

    Which Mets helmet is worse, the blue-black two-tone, or the all-black? (I’d have to say the two-tone…)[/quote]

    I can’t find a pic. of the two tone helmet, but if I am remembering correctly, the blue part of the bill bleeds into the black of the helmet. So my vote is the two-tone.

    [quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]

    I never thought I’d hear Minna say that, either! I’m in shock – SHOCK!

    [quote comment=”61537″][quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]

    Some high schools in my conference do a similar thing for wrestling meets. They dim audience over-head lights and put central lighting on the mat to spotlight the wrestlers. My school never did and I wish they would have. Yes our colors are purple and gold, back off :)

    link (my school). link. Not the best pictures for example, but it works.[/quote]

    Yep…at my high school I wrestled under a light for all 4 years…made it completely different..

    Our rivals never wanted to wrestle us under the light because of how much of an effect it has on the mindset of everyone..

    It’s definitely an amazing feeling..I think that they should do it in more schools..It would get more people to go to the matches for sure.

    Plus, it brings out the colors of the singlets and mat a lot more…and it helps that it makes you look jacked. haha.

    [quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]

    Thank you for this post! I thought it looked different. I tried in vain to adjust my TV when watching Laker home games!

    [quote comment=”61574″][quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]

    I never thought I’d hear Minna say that, either! I’m in shock – SHOCK![/quote]

    Believe me, Anthony, I had a crisis of faith when I realized that I hated these unis. I could barely watch the game.

    those things in the back of Rice’s baseball team is actually the logo of the pant manufacturer I’m pretty sure. I’ve played teams with that logo too thats how i know.

    [quote comment=”61578″]those things in the back of Rice’s baseball team is actually the logo of the pant manufacturer I’m pretty sure. I’ve played teams with that logo too thats how i know.[/quote]

    I never said it wasn’t the manufacturer (Victory Sports, I believe) — I just said it was the only time I’d seen a logo of any sort on a rear belt loop. Didn’t realize other teams did it too — was only aware of Rice.

    It looks like Todd McFarlane just released a 3 inch Jose Reyes figure complete with the wacky two-tone Mets batting helmet.

    link

    [quote comment=”61565″]What do you mean by that? Anyone can tell that he’s link from behind the letters.

    I like the Badger…but that wasn’t the logo in question. I think the “motion W” is pretty plain.[/quote]

    You are right. I had not seen that logo for LSU. I must have been looking at an older one. And most school logos are pretty plain, or none at all, or just the name. i.e. Penn St., Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Nebraska’s football helmets. All in all I don’t think the “Motion W” is too bad, and personally I don’t think it is one of the worst in College. But again, my opinion.[/quote]
    I certainly don’t think that the motion “W” is the worst in college athletics (but I do like Bucky WAY better).

    And in all fairness, you could have seen one of many logos that LSU uses or has used that incorporate only a tiger head such as link or link or link.

    Much like Wisconsin has also used just a badger head link.

    Also, my high school football team began wearing a link link several years back which was designed by the head coach and OBVIOUSLY modelled after the Wisconsin logo.

    [quote comment=”61585″][quote comment=”61565″]What do you mean by that? Anyone can tell that he’s link from behind the letters.

    I like the Badger…but that wasn’t the logo in question. I think the “motion W” is pretty plain.[/quote]

    You are right. I had not seen that logo for LSU. I must have been looking at an older one. And most school logos are pretty plain, or none at all, or just the name. i.e. Penn St., Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Nebraska’s football helmets. All in all I don’t think the “Motion W” is too bad, and personally I don’t think it is one of the worst in College. But again, my opinion.[/quote]
    I certainly don’t think that the motion “W” is the worst in college athletics (but I do like Bucky WAY better).

    And in all fairness, you could have seen one of many logos that LSU uses or has used that incorporate only a tiger head such as link or link or link.

    Much like Wisconsin has also used just a badger head link.

    Also, my high school football team began wearing a link link several years back which was designed by the head coach and OBVIOUSLY modelled after the Wisconsin logo.[/quote]
    Wisconsin may want a word with link check out the second badger with the freshamn beanie or sailor cap or whatever.

    [quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]
    Interesting. Thanks for the FYI. And thumbs up to Laker management for keeping it real. So many times historic franchises build arenas/stadiums and lose the historic feeling, like the Blackhawks. Their old stadium rocked, especially in the playoffs. I’m afraid what’s gonna happen when the Yankees build their new stadium…It won’t be ‘the house that Ruth built’ anymore, it’ll probably be Ugly Duckling Stadium or something. Don’t get me wrong, Ugly Duckling is a very successful Co. There, now no legal issues will resolve from my post. ;-)

    [quote comment=”61577″][quote comment=”61574″][quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]

    I never thought I’d hear Minna say that, either! I’m in shock – SHOCK![/quote]

    Believe me, Anthony, I had a crisis of faith when I realized that I hated these unis. I could barely watch the game.[/quote]

    Ahhh, Minna… torn between your affinity to the black jerseys and the beating red heart of Troy. ;o)

    I noticed yesterday that they sell the exact same 2 tone “cool flo” helmets at Sports Authority. Even more surprising, the huge in-store advertisement for them features Paul Lo Duca.

    My school got its mascot made with the help from the university of Wisconsin. Most everything is the same except the W is a V.

    The MISL Milwaukee Wave wore link for Sunday’s home game against the Baltimore Blast. You can’t quite tell from the photo, but they were designed to be untucked. There is black trim around the bottom of the shirt and the liscence plate (for a local car dealership) was very low.

    This is the fifth different uniform that the Wave has worn this season (out of 26 games played).

    [quote comment=”61593″][quote comment=”61533″]I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker games at Staples Center versus the lighting at Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games. [etc.][/quote]

    So many times historic franchises build arenas/stadiums and lose the historic feeling, like the Blackhawks. [etc.][/quote]

    I can recall the last game I attended at Maple Leaf Gardens. The “Showtime!” moment? When the tungsten TV lights kicked on twenty minutes or so before game time. That’s when the ice surface went from sufficiently bright to blazingly, vividly bright — and all the lines, uniforms, etc. followed suit.

    I miss the old barns. Mercury vapour just isn’t the same (and doesn’t look the same on TV either).

    RE: DBacks colors

    Colors more representative of the region? Has that guy even been to Arizona? Purple, Turquoise, and Copper are three dominant colors in Arizona’s history. The Rattlers got it right. The Suns went with the Orange (of course) and purple.

    What exactly make a Nike school part of their ‘Elite’ collection for basketball? Is it a title or making the final four? There’s some schools out there like SC, Oregon, UNLV etc that could be ‘Elite’ by next season

    [quote comment=”61613″]What exactly make a Nike school part of their ‘Elite’ collection for basketball? Is it a title or making the final four? There’s some schools out there like SC, Oregon, UNLV etc that could be ‘Elite’ by next season[/quote]

    Final four.

    [quote comment=”61584″]It looks like Todd McFarlane just released a 3 inch Jose Reyes figure complete with the wacky two-tone Mets batting helmet.

    link

    Why is Reyes sporting Chan Ho Park style cleats and pants rather than his typical pajama look?

    [quote comment=”61613″]What exactly make a Nike school part of their ‘Elite’ collection for basketball? Is it a title or making the final four? There’s some schools out there like SC, Oregon, UNLV etc that could be ‘Elite’ by next season[/quote]

    Nike School that have reached the Final four since 1994. (there are 2 exemptions, George Mason and Minnesota)

    Seelink and link

    I wrote about last week or so

    [quote comment=”61617″][quote comment=”61613″]What exactly make a Nike school part of their ‘Elite’ collection for basketball? Is it a title or making the final four? There’s some schools out there like SC, Oregon, UNLV etc that could be ‘Elite’ by next season[/quote]

    Nike School that have reached the Final four since 1994. (there are 2 exemptions, George Mason and Minnesota)

    Seelink and link

    I wrote about last week or so[/quote]

    whoops, that second link should go link

    [quote comment=”61531″]News from Port St. Lucie and Mets’ Spring Training..

    -The BP caps aren’t as bad in person.

    -The Jerseys are.

    -Each of the teams (minors, big leaguers) wear a different Mets Jersey. Including a Black one, White one, and even an Orange one. The normal guys wear the blue BPs.

    -One major leaguer had high socks in the entire group I saw.

    -EVERY minor leaguer had high socks.

    -The girls flock to David Wright. haha.

    All in all…nice to see some batting practice and them long toss it around. Saw David Wright and a trainer make a bet who can hit it over the outfield wall directly over this black tarp first. (Wright hit it over but missed the tarp, the trainer nailed it first shot, then Wright hit a monster shot on the next self toss right over.)

    If anyone is around the area I suggest you check it out, beautiful facility and nice people all around..[/quote]

    Thank you, I live and work in Port St. Lucie,Fl. Spot the mets all over the place.

    [quote comment=”61584″]It looks like Todd McFarlane just released a 3 inch Jose Reyes figure complete with the wacky two-tone Mets batting helmet.

    link

    I definitely think they could’ve gone without the ball…since it’s on a stick! It just looks weird

    [quote comment=”61616″][quote comment=”61584″]It looks like Todd McFarlane just released a 3 inch Jose Reyes figure complete with the wacky two-tone Mets batting helmet.

    link

    Why is Reyes sporting Chan Ho Park style cleats and pants rather than his typical pajama look?[/quote]

    Because the figure is just a slight revision to a previous Ichiro figure.

    link

    -Steve!

    [quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]
    Red and Black are a great uni-combo. A thin white outline around the UNLV would have made a world of difference.

    To go with the weekend’s topic of green hats in baseball…the Cardinals-Braves game featured a Green Shamrock between the bases, and a nice little happy face in the sky!

    link

    link

    link

    In other Cardinals news, Tony La Russa has gotten a tattoo on his right shoulder to remember the World Series championship. According to link and a mention on PTI, he promised his daughters he’d get one if the team won it all. Contrary to popular belief, it is not a life size portrait of MVP David Eckstein.

    [quote comment=”61631″][quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]
    Red and Black are a great uni-combo. A thin white outline around the UNLV would have made a world of difference.[/quote]

    Hmm, ToastedPoodle, you might be right. There was just too much red (like Troy’s beating heart, thanks, Teebz) and not enough black (like his hair).

    Hornets beat up on the Celtics today in OKC (the nightmare is about to come to an end, thankfully), but I noticed that the Celtics had link. Is this leftover from the St. Patty’s day?

    [quote comment=”61593″][quote comment=”61533″]I am not sure if this has been discussed or if it is uniform related. But here goes.

    I could not help but notice the lighting at Laker
    games at Staples Center versus the lighting at
    Clippers, Pac-10 baskeball tournament or even LA Kings games.

    I looked online and it confirmed what I have
    noticed.
    The spot light or main lighting at Lakers’ games is focused on the court itself where as the background is darker.

    This “Lights Out” campaign is reminiscent of the
    Lakers’ Forum days.[/quote]
    Interesting. Thanks for the FYI. And thumbs up to Laker management for keeping it real. So many times historic franchises build arenas/stadiums and lose the historic feeling, like the Blackhawks. Their old stadium rocked, especially in the playoffs. I’m afraid what’s gonna happen when the Yankees build their new stadium…It won’t be ‘the house that Ruth built’ anymore, it’ll probably be Ugly Duckling Stadium or something. Don’t get me wrong, Ugly Duckling is a very successful Co. There, now no legal issues will resolve from my post.

    ;-)[/quote]

    I still contend that if they made the newer stadiums steeper, they’d be just as good as the old barns. The feeling of being on top of the rest of the other fans is what makes “atmosphere” (in addition to the fans themselves!)

    [quote comment=”61637″]Hornets beat up on the Celtics today in OKC (the nightmare is about to come to an end, thankfully), but I noticed that the Celtics had link. Is this leftover from the St. Patty’s day?[/quote]

    Yes.

    I’ve never posted on here before, but felt like I should tonight… Don’t be fooled into thinking that MLB told the D-Backs to change their uniforms and colors… The new ownership did it to get rid of anything Jerry Colangelo from the organization- plain and simple.

    The president of the club has been feeding people weak excuses like “purple doesn’t show up well on TV” (which I find tough to beleive in the day of HDTV), “it was hard to produce” and my personal favorite “red is a more unique color.”

    Don’t buy any of this PR garbage- it’ll be interesting to see when the season starts how many people have the new gear… It was a very unpopular move and is my personal opinion- if they were going to change the uniforms, at least bother giving us something better- not worse.

    PS- I do beleive that MLB told them that “if your going to add a Sunday jersey, just change the uniforms all together” But I don’t beleive that MLB told them to change them or what color to change them to. (Hope that makes sesne) It would’ve been silly for the D-backs to have a red Sunday jersey if their colors are purple and teal… That’s like the Dodgers requesting to wear a green jersey on Sundays…

    [quote comment=”61636″][quote comment=”61631″][quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]
    Red and Black are a great uni-combo. A thin white outline around the UNLV would have made a world of difference.[/quote]

    Hmm, ToastedPoodle, you might be right. There was just too much red (like Troy’s beating heart, thanks, Teebz) and not enough black (like his hair).[/quote]

    Sorry. ToasterPoodle. For some reason, I always substitute a ‘d’ for the ‘r’ when I read your name.

    [quote comment=”61642″][quote comment=”61636″][quote comment=”61631″][quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]
    Red and Black are a great uni-combo. A thin white outline around the UNLV would have made a world of difference.[/quote]

    Hmm, ToastedPoodle, you might be right. There was just too much red (like Troy’s beating heart, thanks, Teebz) and not enough black (like his hair).[/quote]

    Sorry. ToasterPoodle. For some reason, I always substitute a ‘d’ for the ‘r’ when I read your name.[/quote]

    I have to disagree here. I like the UNLV uni’s. They are simple and very sleek. I could do without the curve in the shorts, but I love the jersey. To me it’s clean, fresh and modern.

    [quote comment=”61643″][quote comment=”61642″][quote comment=”61636″][quote comment=”61631″][quote comment=”61560″][quote comment=”61486″]When did UNLV go to these link(sp?). I haven’t seen these before.[/quote]

    I love red. I love black. I HATED looking at these unis. Never thought I’d say that about a black-and-red combo.[/quote]
    Red and Black are a great uni-combo. A thin white outline around the UNLV would have made a world of difference.[/quote]

    Hmm, ToastedPoodle, you might be right. There was just too much red (like Troy’s beating heart, thanks, Teebz) and not enough black (like his hair).[/quote]

    Sorry. ToasterPoodle. For some reason, I always substitute a ‘d’ for the ‘r’ when I read your name.[/quote]

    I have to disagree here. I like the UNLV uni’s. They are simple and very sleek. I could do without the curve in the shorts, but I love the jersey. To me it’s clean, fresh and modern.[/quote]

    Well, Jon, you are entitled to your opinion (especially since you OWNED the first round of the unofficial UniWatch brackets). However, I think my eyeballs fell out of my head from watching these unis in HDTV. Like I said, no one was more surprised than I was that I didn’t love these unis.

    [quote comment=”61644″]Does Eric Gagne always pitch with only link?[/quote]

    Only since he went through his arm replacement surgeries.

    The logo on the Rice University baseball team pants is actually the logo for the company who makes the pants, not the university itself. The name of the company is “Victory” which is what it says on the pants.

    Is there any way we can disambiguate the team references? When I read about Miami’s new football uniforms, my first thought is that it’s about the Dolphins.

    Last year, the Tigers also wore the home BP cap all the time in spring training, even on the road. It is simpler to do so, and they likely do not want to issue a second cap to all of the rookies and minor league invitees who aren’t going to make the team anyway.

    Re: Cricket uniforms

    Cricket involves some different cultures, and we don’t particularly understand their mindset some of the time. In the subcontinent, for example, numerology is a big deal, and numbers have certain meaning. It has led to some odd uniform related happenings. A few years ago, Indian captain Sourav Ganguly would switch from number 99 to number 24 from match to match, based on the advice of a numerologist. Once he wore both numbers in the same match — he wore 99 while batting and then wore 24 while fielding.

    link

    Here is the numerologist’s web site, try to make sense of it if you will.

    The idea here is that this line of thinking also extends to uniform colors.

    Added note about the noticeable abundance of Mets minor leaguers wearing high socks….

    I was told that Gary Carter, manager of the Port St. Lucie Mets last year, required his players wear their socks high. While Carter is no longer with the organization (apparently not a very clean break-up), his former players have kept the habit. It’ll be interesting to see if this is something they continue to do as they rise up through the system.

    Among the major leaguers, Orlando Hernandez and Oliver Perez are the only ones who have the traditional socks (no stirrups, though!).

    Do you know where I can get a couple of those t-shirts. My husband is from Wisconsin and we have been looking for them for a while.

    [quote comment=”61496″]The UW article has a brief aside about the use of Bucky. As a happy owner of a contraband “Fuck ’em Bucky” t-shirt, I find the university’s exclusive claim on the Bucky logo galling for several reasons: UW didn’t create the logo (an LA agency did); UW was not the first Madison institution to use the logo (a local bookstore was); the logo was 40+ years old when the UW claimed it as a trademark; and the UW created its own version of the logo a couple years ago that is unambiguously distinct from the link. Protect the new logo, but let people do what they please with the old one.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”61496″]The UW article has a brief aside about the use of Bucky. As a happy owner of a contraband “Fuck ’em Bucky” t-shirt, I find the university’s exclusive claim on the Bucky logo galling for several reasons: UW didn’t create the logo (an LA agency did); UW was not the first Madison institution to use the logo (a local bookstore was); the logo was 40+ years old when the UW claimed it as a trademark; and the UW created link of the logo a couple years ago that is unambiguously distinct from the link. Protect the new logo, but let people do what they please with the old one.[/quote]

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