Yesterday’s ESPN column generated so much response that I’ve created an FAQ page for it. To see it, scroll down to the entry immediately after this one.
One comment that came up repeatedly — and occasionally comes up in other e-mail I receive — was that I’m a prime exemplar of “the media’s east-coast sports bias” (it’s particularly amusing when someone thinks this is why I don’t like Nike in general or Oregon’s football uniforms in particular). As I usually explain in such instances, hey, no bias here — my favorite state is Wisconsin, I rooted for the Kareem-led Lakers when I was a kid, and my favorite NFL team is the 49ers, for chrissakes.
There’s one area, however, where the charge is at least somewhat accurate: Since the major-level pro sports leagues and big-time collegiate sports all started in the east and midwest, I’m sometimes guilty of forgetting that there’s plenty of sports history — and, hence, uniform history — out west. It’s just that most of it was at the minor league level. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
That point was recently driven home to me when Bob Andrews tipped me wise to a site chronicling San Diego’s sports history. Can’t say I’d ever given much thought to that concept, or to the notion that San Diego even had a particularly deep sports history. But I’m gonna try to make amends by highlighting some of the better uni-related details from the site.
Let’s start with the city’s baseball history. Check out the creased pants in this shot (which supposedly dates from 1887, although I have my doubts about that), and the amazing front bibs in this one (of more believable 1887 vintage). You get a real feel for the mix of baseball and western-style architecture in this shot, and San Diego’s long history as a Naval port city is plenty evident in this one (taken aboard the U.S.S. Alert in 1918).
Of course, San Diego’s biggest baseball legacy is the Padres, who were Pacific Coast League team for over 30 years before the club’s current MLB incarnation. Check out these pics from 1936, 1948, 1949 (love that zipper), 1950, and 1957. Cool stadium shot here, too.
Turning to football, Russ High School sure liked that big “R” on its jersey, as seen in these great shots from 1902, 1903 (dig those crazy-ass socks on the dude at far left), and 1904. Meanwhile, check out the San Diego High player on the right in this 1921 shot: He’s got some some sort of tape wrapped around his thighs, his hip pads are tied together, and he’s got his keys hanging from his belt (which doesn’t match his teammate’s belt color). I sense the work of an overprotective mom.
Skipping forward several decades, it’s pretty obvious that those early Chargers uniforms were miles ahead of what the rest of the AFL was wearing. Can you even figure out who their plain-helmeted opponents are here? Incredibly enough, it’s the 1962 Oakland Raiders, hopelessly uni-outclassed. Similarly, who are the Chargers playing here? Answer: the 1963 Boston Patriots (who supposedly had Pat Patriot on their helmets, but I guess the AFL had some sloppy quality control).
There’s a lot more here, including boxing, soccer, cycling, tennis, golf, rowing, even surfing. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you San Diego — Uni Watch sports capital of the day!
Raffle Reminder: Lots of people had the day off yesterday for MLK Day, so you may have missed the announcement that we’re doing another Distant Replays raffle. For full details, scroll down to the “ITEM! January Raffle” section of yesterday’s entry.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s something I haven’t seen before: padded/quilted uni numbers — additional views here and here — as worn by the UK’s Farnham MH Knights (whose head coach, Steve Rains, provided the photos). ”¦ The minor league Cincinnati Cyclones, who are affiliated with the Canadiens, wore Canadiens-themed jerseys on Friday night. “I thought the front of the jerseys looked really nice,” says Kris Rose, who provided these photos. “The backs, however, were a bit of a train wreck. The stripes going around the jersey made the numbers REALLY hard to read when the team was playing. Some sort of outlining would have helped a lot.” ”¦ Latest racer-backed women’s hoops team: Colgate (with thanks to Stewart Small). ”¦ Duke’s David McClure had a nameplate typo on Sunday night (good catch by Matt Palombi).
Paul,
Thanks for giving a nod to the West Coast’s rich sports history.
The local Dallas sports station (KTCK, link) is devoting a segment this morning to “some guy who wrote a column ranking cities by their professional teams’ uniforms.” Wow, Uni Watch has hit the big time once again.
Paul,
As having lived my entire life on the west coast until the last year and a half, I must say that you’re most definitely not East Coast Biased. Oregon’s uniforms are a freaking train wreck. There simply isn’t a lot of Uniform history out there. I’m a huge Angels fan, and our recent unis are by far better than the gay winged A. I appreciated your San Diego references today. The uni history in the East is simply far more entrenched and quite frankly, cool. Keep up the good work, I enjoy your entries everyday.
ZG
Those MH Knights jerseys are really nice to me (baby blue IS my favorite color.) The padded numbers are shockingly nice. The only thing is #88’s poor choice in the color of his Under Armour.
You know, I usually don’t even think on this level but I have to say the guys (?) in link are REALLY fruity looking.
How is voting Boston the best looking sports city an East Coast Bias. I don’t know how it can be a bias when you are 100% correct. The truth is the truth.
[quote comment=”42162″]You know, I usually don’t even think on this level but I have to say the guys (?) in link are REALLY fruity looking.
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It’s OK, I thought the same thing
Keep it classy San Diego
[quote comment=”42157″]Paul,
As having lived my entire life on the west coast until the last year and a half, I must say that you’re most definitely not East Coast Biased. Oregon’s uniforms are a freaking train wreck. There simply isn’t a lot of Uniform history out there. I’m a huge Angels fan, and our recent unis are by far better than the gay winged A. I appreciated your San Diego references today. The uni history in the East is simply far more entrenched and quite frankly, cool. Keep up the good work, I enjoy your entries everyday.
ZG[/quote]
Zach, since you are an Angels fan, one question: are you from Orange County? If so, what are your thoughts on the whole “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” name? As a Long Beach native and diehard Dodgers fan, the LAAofA thing bugs me.
Paul,
Thanks for posting my Cyclones pics, sorry for the poor quality of some of them. I was hoping you might comment on them though…what did you think of those unis?
Wow those link jerseys look so much like the link from the same year that it’s scary.
Ok, I realize that college sports players don’t have the same clout as pros, and certainly not the same salaries, but to me? Making David McClure play with a misspelled jersey in way beyond the realm of disrespect. I’m sure there are all sorts of reasons why it couldn’t be redone in time for the game, but in my opinion, -something- should have been done such that his nameplate reflected the correct spelling.
There is just no excuse for that.
Glad to see Wisconsin at the top. Is it because of our cheese (produced by happy cows), our bratwurst, some other artery-clogging delicacy, or, as I suspect, the uniforms of the Packers (your favorites, I think you mentioned earlier), Brewers (the old ball-and-glove mb logo), and Bucks (the deer-twirling-a-ball logo)?
(And don’t forget the Class A Beloit Snappers…)
There is just no excuse for that.[/quote]
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if nobody on the team even noticed it until it was too late. Some poor schmuck student manager was prepping for mid-terms and making a few pennies in teh athletics department and screwed up.
David Beckham once played a Community Shield (I think- memory is fuzzy) match with a misspelled name on his kit. Finding a pic is a chore, though.
Paul, I have your answer to everyone who said you have a bias, either East or West Coast. I added up the totals by region, Midwest, East, West, and South. They are as follows:
Midwest (Chicago, STL, Detroit, Minneapolis, & Cleveland) = 17.15
South (Atlanta, Tampa, Miami, Houston, Dallas) = 14.26
East (Boston, Philly, NY, Pittsburgh, Washington, Toronto) = 22.25 (Sans Toronto, 19.58)
West (San Fran, LA, Seattle, Denver, Phoenix) = 17.38
So to rank them in winning order:
1. East Coast
2. West Coast
3. Midwest
4. South
[quote comment=”42178″]Ok, I realize that college sports players don’t have the same clout as pros, and certainly not the same salaries, but to me? Making David McClure play with a misspelled jersey in way beyond the realm of disrespect. I’m sure there are all sorts of reasons why it couldn’t be redone in time for the game, but in my opinion, -something- should have been done such that his nameplate reflected the correct spelling.
There is just no excuse for that.[/quote]
Sure, it is an embarrassing mistake, but beyond the realm of disrespect? C’mon. Pro teams make similar errors on occasion (they have been well documented by Uni Watch), and it just isn’t a big deal. Why should a player be super-sensitized to an unintended mistake? Has the “don’t disrespect me” mantra been taken to an extreme as silly as this?
Thanks Paul for the San Diego tribute. I am a native San Diegan (still in mourning, and you had to kick us when we were down by the whole Boston is best thing), and long time UniWatcher. I agree you are not east-coast biased on the website and do a great job of giving everyone (as long as they don’t wear purple) equal time and attention. Thanks for doing a great job!
This may have been raised previously, but why, at the Bulls home game yesterday, were the Bulls in black and the Spurs in white?
um, all i have 2 say is that the Kansas City Chiefs and the Seattle Seahawks simply have the 2 best unis in football.
[quote comment=”42178″]Ok, I realize that college sports players don’t have the same clout as pros, and certainly not the same salaries, but to me? Making David McClure play with a misspelled jersey in way beyond the realm of disrespect. I’m sure there are all sorts of reasons why it couldn’t be redone in time for the game, but in my opinion, -something- should have been done such that his nameplate reflected the correct spelling.
There is just no excuse for that.[/quote]
Simple mistake. No need to make a big deal about it. Check out past instances documented on this site. On the other hand, I find it hilarious that it was a player on Duke. Seeing as how I will take any chance I get to laugh in the face of Duke basketball I love that this kid had to play a whole game with his name misspelled and I hope that he took offense to it. Of course if they had done it to Greg Paulus, Josh McRoberts or my new least favorite John Scheyer it would have been that much better.
The guy on the far left of the supposed 1887 San Diego baseball picture looks an awful lot like Walter Johnson, the Hall of Fame pitcher. This may be a California winter league team from the teens or early twenties.
Love the site, keep fighting the good fight!
[quote comment=”42160″]Those MH Knights jerseys are really nice to me (baby blue IS my favorite color.) The padded numbers are shockingly nice. The only thing is #88’s poor choice in the color of his Under Armour.[/quote]
I make no comment, but would like to point out that the MH of the Farnham MH Knights (formerly the Personal Assurance Knights) are their uniform suppliers, the new UK subsidiary of a German company. So, yes, it’s the same as being called the Beaverton Nike Knights!
I guess padded numbers is something that MH are trying to introduce / popularise. And looking at the logo on #88s right arm, it looks like his “Under Armour” is make by MH as well.
PS. Not uni-related at all (unless they decide to use commemorative patches), but I’m super psyched that it’s now official that a regular season NFL game will be played in London next season. Whatever the teams and whatever the date, I plan to be there.
That mystery team from the 1962 Chargers game is the Oakland Raiders (link)
Ha. I suck at the Internet. I swear I didn’t see Paul’s answer to his own question there.
[quote comment=”42174″][quote comment=”42157″]Paul,
As having lived my entire life on the west coast until the last year and a half, I must say that you’re most definitely not East Coast Biased. Oregon’s uniforms are a freaking train wreck. There simply isn’t a lot of Uniform history out there. I’m a huge Angels fan, and our recent unis are by far better than the gay winged A. I appreciated your San Diego references today. The uni history in the East is simply far more entrenched and quite frankly, cool. Keep up the good work, I enjoy your entries everyday.
ZG[/quote]
Zach, since you are an Angels fan, one question: are you from Orange County? If so, what are your thoughts on the whole “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” name? As a Long Beach native and diehard Dodgers fan, the LAAofA thing bugs me.[/quote]
I’m a Huntington Beach native, so yeah, I’m an OC guy and the whole LAA of A bugs the ever loving hell out of me. I would have been great with an Orange County Angels, or going back to California but the LAA of A is so lame. I thought Moreno would be great for the team, but I guess not. I am jealous though of the class that the McCourts brought to the Dodgers.
The Cyclones jerseys were designed to look exactly like the Montreal Canadiens’ throwbacks. On the throwbacks, there is a small bit of outline, but it’s in blue. You can see it link.
Judging from the pics that were provided, it appears that blue outline on the numbers was missing. A small detail, but it’s the little details that make the big picture so much more pleasing.
this 1921 shot guy on the left looks liek the guy from the Enzyte male enhancement commercials
[quote comment=”42196″]This may have been raised previously, but why, at the Bulls home game yesterday, were the Bulls in black and the Spurs in white?[/quote]
No real reason, just wanted to wear the alternates at home.
A little more in line with the updates from yesterda y about the Rbk NHL jerseys, but is the idea that most (all?) teams are going to use the same template for the jerseys or just that since the sweaters (if you can call them that anymore) are to be tucked in the horizontal trim (across the bottom) will disappear for all teams) but many jerseys will stay the same otherwise?
I think it’s best that you didn’t, but it’s hard to leave out schools like link and link when considering the cities best unis. Both are timeless classics. (Except for maybe the new navy blue/black outlining on the Bruins’ away jerseys)
[quote comment=”42198″]um, all i have 2 say is that the Kansas City Chiefs and the Seattle Seahawks simply have the 2 best unis in football.[/quote]
I think the Seahawks look pretty sharp in their link, but the home unis are just awful IMO, especially with the link combo.
[quote comment=”42221″]I think it’s best that you didn’t, but it’s hard to leave out schools like link and link when considering the cities best unis. Both are timeless classics. (Except for maybe the new navy blue/black outlining on the Bruins’ away jerseys)[/quote]
A timeless classic for UCLA could hafta be their basketball unis…haven’t changed much since the link to link, just as long as they don’t follow the link
[quote comment=”42220″]A little more in line with the updates from yesterda y about the Rbk NHL jerseys, but is the idea that most (all?) teams are going to use the same template for the jerseys or just that since the sweaters (if you can call them that anymore) are to be tucked in the horizontal trim (across the bottom) will disappear for all teams) but many jerseys will stay the same otherwise?[/quote]
The NHLPA killed the idea of tucking the jerseys. The players said it restricted movement too much, and the NHL listened. Reebok has since tweaked the design so that the tuck will no longer be mandatory.
The templates are basic and simple to start. Each team can apply their colours to the template, but the actual stitching of the jersey seams lends itself to making all the jerseys look somewhat similar.
Those points being made, there is some wiggle room for teams to be creative along the bottom hem and along the sleeves. Perhaps we’ll see some creativity introduced during the “ceremony” tomorrow in NYC when the NHL debuts the jerseys.
From the John Buccigross mailbag:
link
“I’ve received tons of e-mails on the “If you destroy my sweater” thing. Much like the schedule, I don’t think I care what the players wear. I have the right to change my mind, but if Alexander Ovechkin is streaking down the right wing wearing a bunny suit with a lobster bib and a top hat, I still will be impressed. Until I see these uniforms in action, I’ll withhold opinion. I’m all for trying new things.”
(Extra points for knowing his family’s last name before it came to the USA – not uni-related.)
The Cyclones posting got me looiking into ECHL jerseys. The Phoenix Roadrunners, aside from being one of the league’s most storied franchises (OK, that’s not saying much), have one of the league’s finest link. Now, that’s nice. On top of that, the team also wears a link, a nod to their “teammate” and arena-mate.
While I’m not a huge fan of the black pants with the uniforms, I love that light blue in a hockey jersey, a la the Quebec Nordiques.
Paul-
You’re showing the best-dressed unis (Sox, Cubs, etc) …couldn’t you find anyone not wearing pajama pants?
[quote comment=”42229″]From the John Buccigross mailbag:
link
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Buccigross is probably the lamest of NHL writers that ESPN has. His mailbag can sometimes be mistaken for a VH1 mailbag with the crappy music he suggests. He needs to concentrate on the game and the grassroots initiatives in the States a little more, and less of the “hooplah” and entertainment that surrounds the pro game.
He disappoints me more often than not with his articles.
[quote comment=”42234″]Buccigross is probably the lamest of NHL writers that ESPN has.[/quote]
ESPN has more than one?
[quote comment=”42234″][quote comment=”42229″]From the John Buccigross mailbag:
link
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Buccigross is probably the lamest of NHL writers that ESPN has. His mailbag can sometimes be mistaken for a VH1 mailbag with the crappy music he suggests. He needs to concentrate on the game and the grassroots initiatives in the States a little more, and less of the “hooplah” and entertainment that surrounds the pro game.
He disappoints me more often than not with his articles.[/quote]
I actually like Buccigross’ column – probably becuae I’ve been in his mailbag twice and gotten two other personal responses to questions/comments I have sent him. I love when he writes about his son and his hockey games. I would rather read him than Linda Cohn, who I guess had to find SOMETHING to do at ESPN because she’s a terrible anchor and they can’t fire her (discrimination and all that). Terry Frei lost me as a reader with that inane uni critique he did the a couple of weeks ago. I’ll take Buccigross over all of them.
[quote comment=”42234″][quote comment=”42229″]From the John Buccigross mailbag:
link
[/quote]
Buccigross is probably the lamest of NHL writers that ESPN has. His mailbag can sometimes be mistaken for a VH1 mailbag with the crappy music he suggests. He needs to concentrate on the game and the grassroots initiatives in the States a little more, and less of the “hooplah” and entertainment that surrounds the pro game.
He disappoints me more often than not with his articles.[/quote]
I concur with this assesment of his columns. Just to give seom credit though, he was OK on nhl2night, and I do agree with his approach of reserving judgement until the new uniforms are revealed.
[quote comment=”42207″]The Cyclones jerseys were designed to look exactly like the Montreal Canadiens’ throwbacks. On the throwbacks, there is a small bit of outline, but it’s in blue. You can see it link.
Judging from the pics that were provided, it appears that blue outline on the numbers was missing. A small detail, but it’s the little details that make the big picture so much more pleasing.[/quote]
I can tell you there was no outline on the numbers. It certainly would have helped out a lot. I can say that the front of the jerseys looked pretty nice though.
Reggie Merriweather of Clemson had two large linkon the side of his helmet at the Hula Bowl
[quote comment=”42241″]Reggie Merriweather of Clemson had two large linkon the side of his helmet at the Hula Bowl[/quote]
This is very common in college football “all-star” games and bowls. Players will exchange their helmet decals with opponents and teammates and even double or triple up on their own decals.
[quote comment=”42223″][quote comment=”42221″]now, just as long as they don’t follow the link[/quote]
Women play Sports???!
[quote comment=”42190″][quote comment=”42178″]Ok, I realize that college sports players don’t have the same clout as pros, and certainly not the same salaries, but to me? Making David McClure play with a misspelled jersey in way beyond the realm of disrespect. I’m sure there are all sorts of reasons why it couldn’t be redone in time for the game, but in my opinion, -something- should have been done such that his nameplate reflected the correct spelling.
There is just no excuse for that.[/quote]
Sure, it is an embarrassing mistake, but beyond the realm of disrespect? C’mon. Pro teams make similar errors on occasion (they have been well documented by Uni Watch), and it just isn’t a big deal. Why should a player be super-sensitized to an unintended mistake? Has the “don’t disrespect me” mantra been taken to an extreme as silly as this?[/quote]
I was not using the word “disrespect” as in the “Yo, don’t talk about my mama!” crap. It was meant more in the way of integrity or quality control, if you prefer.
As for why he should be “super-sensitized?” Simple. As a player for Duke, David McClure represents that team and the University itself. If he were to go out right now and get arrested for, say, drunk and disorderly, he would be suspended because of the reflection of his behavior. Would it not stand to reason then, that the same reflection should be shown to a player? Shoddy “quality control” is a huge reflection on the University too, whose personnel didn’t give enough of a rat’s ass to check their spelling.
And since you seem to be able to just accept that, which is cool, let’s have your company present you with business cards to hand out to clients, all with your name misspelled. Would you accept and use those, because, well, it was an unintentional error? I don’t even think so. Because it reflects poorly on your professionalism. Same goes with Duke.
College athletics (and Professional athletics too!) make a metric asston of money off of their players. There is no reason in the world to have a player representing your team on the field/court with his or her name misspelled.
[quote comment=”42230″]The Cyclones posting got me looiking into ECHL jerseys. The Phoenix Roadrunners, aside from being one of the league’s most storied franchises (OK, that’s not saying much), have one of the league’s finest link. Now, that’s nice. On top of that, the team also wears a link, a nod to their “teammate” and arena-mate.
While I’m not a huge fan of the black pants with the uniforms, I love that light blue in a hockey jersey, a la the Quebec Nordiques.[/quote]
Sorry, I would have to disagree, simply because the logo is WAY overstyled (the link… link)
My favortie of the ECHL bunch: The link (Come on! That logo seals the deal!)
[quote comment=”42237″]
I actually like Buccigross’ column – probably becuae I’ve been in his mailbag twice and gotten two other personal responses to questions/comments I have sent him. I love when he writes about his son and his hockey games. I would rather read him than Linda Cohn, who I guess had to find SOMETHING to do at ESPN because she’s a terrible anchor and they can’t fire her (discrimination and all that). Terry Frei lost me as a reader with that inane uni critique he did the a couple of weeks ago. I’ll take Buccigross over all of them.[/quote]
I don’t consider Cohn and Frei NHL writers for the simple reason that they try to pass off common knowledge as their own original thoughts. Do some reporting of news, and then talk to me.
Cohn especially does this, and it annoys me to no end. Her recent article about the scheduling is approximately two years behind. The NHL has been fighting this argument for the uneven scheduling for a long time, and then she comes along and tries to rewrite the information with her own spin.
Terry Frei’s recent article about cities having both an NHL and an NBA team is fraught with hearsay and speculation. He writes “[t]he advantages of Kansas City would be many: An instant and real rivalry with the Blues”. Excuse me? Frei clearly has no clue about the scheduling. Perhaps he and Cohn should sit down and put their collective NHL brain cell together. The Penguins and Blues don’t have a rivalry. They never have. They probably won’t for a long, long time. Why? The Blues are terrible and rarely compete. They don’t play often against one another now, so there’s no animosity towards each other. Frei is basically earning his salary for spewing stats that mean less than nothing.
Who does that leave? Barry Melrose doesn’t do ESPN.com print articles anymore, so EJ Hradek and Scott Burnside are the only respectable columnists to speak of.
Being down here in Louisiana, hockey doesn’t get very much pub. There used to be several teams in south Louisiana in the ECHL that actually formed some pretty heated rivalries over the very few years they coexisted.
I always liked link for the New Orleans Brass – much better than the link they switched to.
The other two teams were the link and the link.
Sigh, I miss going to the Brass games in New Orleans…they were very entertaining as well as being a great bargain.
[quote comment=”42223″][quote comment=”42221″]I think it’s best that you didn’t, but it’s hard to leave out schools like link and link when considering the cities best unis. Both are timeless classics. (Except for maybe the new navy blue/black outlining on the Bruins’ away jerseys)[/quote]
A timeless classic for UCLA could hafta be their basketball unis…haven’t changed much since the link to link, just as long as they don’t follow the link[/quote]
or they dont go back to these
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todays entry is a constant reminder of some of the greatest lines in cinematic history…
Ron Burgundy: Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale’s vagina.
Veronica Corningstone: No, there’s no way that’s correct.
Ron Burgundy: I’m sorry, I was trying to impress you. I don’t know what it means. I’ll be honest, I don’t think anyone knows what it means anymore. Scholars maintain that the translation was lost hundreds of years ago.
Veronica Corningstone: Doesn’t it mean Saint Diego?
Ron Burgundy: No. No.
Veronica Corningstone: No, that’s – that’s what it means. Really.
Ron Burgundy: Agree to disagree.
coincidentally, ladanian tomlinson’s “opinion” of what happened on sunday, reminds me of some more…
Ron Burgundy: You stay classy, San Diego.
Ron Burgundy: And I’m Ron Burgundy. Go f*** yourself, San Diego.
[quote comment=”42247″][quote comment=”42223″][quote comment=”42221″]now, just as long as they don’t follow the link[/quote]
Women play Sports???![/quote]
Let’s not get into that discussion.
Does anyone know exactly what the NHL is debuting tomorrow? Is it the general jersey template? Is it only the All Star jersey? Neither? Both?
[quote comment=”42263″][quote comment=”42247″][quote comment=”42223″][quote comment=”42221″]now, just as long as they don’t follow the link[/quote]
Women play Sports???![/quote]
Let’s not get into that discussion.[/quote]
Exactly that was an asinine comment
[quote comment=”42266″]Does anyone know exactly what the NHL is debuting tomorrow? Is it the general jersey template? Is it only the All Star jersey? Neither? Both?[/quote]
Its the vomit inducing idea of changing what has worked perfectly for 40+ years.
[quote comment=”42224″]
The NHLPA killed the idea of tucking the jerseys. The players said it restricted movement too much, and the NHL listened. Reebok has since tweaked the design so that the tuck will no longer be mandatory.
The templates are basic and simple to start. Each team can apply their colours to the template, but the actual stitching of the jersey seams lends itself to making all the jerseys look somewhat similar.
Those points being made, there is some wiggle room for teams to be creative along the bottom hem and along the sleeves. Perhaps we’ll see some creativity introduced during the “ceremony” tomorrow in NYC when the NHL debuts the jerseys.[/quote]
Teebz,
Do you have a link to any press release or article about the NHLPA nixing tucked in jersey? Judging from the pictures of the all-star jerseys and estimates at potential uniform changes, it definitely looked like the stitching made every jersey look the same with substitute colors. I guess I’m just trying to figure out if the new jerseys are actually a “template” that every team is supposed to use or just an “upgrade” in material with the performance fit or whatever it is.
I thought Moreno would be great for the team, but I guess not.
Yeah, those two division championships, 90 wins per season, sold out home games, 150 games per season on TV, and actual investments into the team have really sucked.
[quote]I was not using the word “disrespect†as in the “Yo, don’t talk about my mama!†crap. It was meant more in the way of integrity or quality control, if you prefer.
As for why he should be “super-sensitized?†Simple. As a player for Duke, David McClure represents that team and the University itself. If he were to go out right now and get arrested for, say, drunk and disorderly, he would be suspended because of the reflection of his behavior. Would it not stand to reason then, that the same reflection should be shown to a player? Shoddy “quality control†is a huge reflection on the University too, whose personnel didn’t give enough of a rat’s ass to check their spelling.
And since you seem to be able to just accept that, which is cool, let’s have your company present you with business cards to hand out to clients, all with your name misspelled. Would you accept and use those, because, well, it was an unintentional error? I don’t even think so. Because it reflects poorly on your professionalism. Same goes with Duke.
College athletics (and Professional athletics too!) make a metric asston of money off of their players. There is no reason in the world to have a player representing your team on the field/court with his or her name misspelled. [/quote]
Sure, the college SHOULD spell his name correctly on the back of his jersey, and sure I could make a really bad lacrosse team joke with that whole “drunk and disorderly” comment you made, but the thing is a mistake is a mistake.
The business card analogy makes no sense whatsoever because the company would surely correct the mistake as will Duke with the name misspelling. Besides the fact that this is a one time misrepresentation of his name instead of handing someone a business card and having them keep that as a reference to your identity for a long time. Oh, and also the fact that most of the people watching this game were doing so on TV which was flashing his correctly spelled name on graphics on numerous occassions, not to mention the people in the stands were able to view his correctly spelled name on the scoreboard.
The fact that he had to deal with a misspelled jersey for one game is not a misrepresentation of his person or the University’s “professionalism.”
By the way, did anyone mention that Duke happened to be playing IN Miami, 3 states away from it’s home in North Carolina. Even if they had caught the mistake before the game, which I am almost positive they did, there would have been no way to get a corrected jersey down to Miami in time for the game.
It happens all the time. ALL the time. Heck, a Navy kicker had the word “NAYV” on the front of his jersey a few months ago. Just last week the SF Giants were selling a player’s jersey on the online store with the name spelled incorrectly. Both of those are a little worse than spelling one kids name wrong for one game. Besides the fact that I already pointed out that he plays for Duke and doesn’t really deserve the common courtesy of us know how to spell his name correctly in the first place.
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Teebz,
Do you have a link to any press release or article about the NHLPA nixing tucked in jersey? Judging from the pictures of the all-star jerseys and estimates at potential uniform changes, it definitely looked like the stitching made every jersey look the same with substitute colors. I guess I’m just trying to figure out if the new jerseys are actually a “template” that every team is supposed to use or just an “upgrade” in material with the performance fit or whatever it is.[/quote]
Not yet. I haven’t been privy to the NHL template that Reebok is working on, but there’s a good chance that it will look somewhat like the practice jerseys they are currently using some changes. The CCM/Reebok guy has been very hush-hush about the new jerseys, and only tells me what he knows for sure because they are already in production at the Granby, Quebec factory.
After tomorrow, I may know a whole lot more because they will be available for the public’s prying eyes.
[quote comment=”42294″]they are currently using some changes…[/quote]
Apparently, my proof-reading is adding words that aren’t there.
That should read “… they are currently using with some changes…”
This is why I’m not an editor. :o)
At least NAYV works phonetically.
[quote comment=”42294″]After tomorrow, I may know a whole lot more because they will be available for the public’s prying eyes.[/quote]
Maybe, maybe not. I’m trying to secure a spot at tomorrow’s event and now I’m hearing that even if I get to go, the info may be embargoed until Monday.
[quote comment=”42298″][quote comment=”42294″]After tomorrow, I may know a whole lot more because they will be available for the public’s prying eyes.[/quote]
Maybe, maybe not. I’m trying to secure a spot at tomorrow’s event and now I’m hearing that even if I get to go, the info may be embargoed until Monday.[/quote]
Really? They were reportedly having the ceremony tomorrow so that the All-Star jerseys weren’t going to be an outragous shock to the traditionalist hockey fan. Can they really have a press release tomorrow, and not release any info until the All-Star week?
That seems highly counter-productive. With all the steps the NHL has taken to bring the fans back to the game, keeping this a secret from the paying fan will only harbour more resentment if the jerseys are brutal.
[quote comment=”42230″]The Cyclones posting got me looiking into ECHL jerseys. The Phoenix Roadrunners, aside from being one of the league’s most storied franchises (OK, that’s not saying much), have one of the league’s finest link. Now, that’s nice. On top of that, the team also wears a link, a nod to their “teammate” and arena-mate.
While I’m not a huge fan of the black pants with the uniforms, I love that light blue in a hockey jersey, a la the Quebec Nordiques.[/quote]
The AHL Hamilton Bulldogs (Canadiens farm team) busted out black and gold jerseys as a nod to the Hamilton Tiger-Cats back in 2004. It was a nice idea on paper but I don’t particularly like the link. Especially in comparison to the Ti-Cats unis that were around back link before the entire league got Reebok redesigns for the 2005 season.
Alex Ovechkin’s visor is changing……maybe.
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Quote from the blog: Alex Ovechkin tried out a new visor, much like the mirrored one he wore to much fanfare as a rookie. It was tinted, but had an blue iridium coating. (Think Oakley sunglasses.)
Is Marty Brodeur on the phone complaining, yet?
Ovechkin’s apparently got a new visor. No word on whether he can actually use it.
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More Post blog uni entries:
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Relevant excerpt:
Anyhow, I just got to talk to Mystics President and Managing Partner Sheila Johnson. This will be of interest to both Mystics and Caps fans. She said the Mystics can’t go to a red-white-and-blue color scheme in 2007, but that there’s a “50-50” chance they’ll go with America’s colors by 2008, and that it will definitely happen eventually.
“We’re going to red white and blue, too,” she said. “We have to see how our finances are. It costs a lot of money to change those colors, you know that? It’s not just the uniforms; it’s the floor, it’s everything.”
I asked why she wanted to make the change.
“Because it reflects the nation’s capital,” she said. “That’s what it is. We would like to keep the Caps and the Mystics in the same genre. I think it’d be great.”
[quote comment=”42304″][quote comment=”42298″][quote comment=”42294″]After tomorrow, I may know a whole lot more because they will be available for the public’s prying eyes.[/quote]
Maybe, maybe not. I’m trying to secure a spot at tomorrow’s event and now I’m hearing that even if I get to go, the info may be embargoed until Monday.[/quote]
Really? They were reportedly having the ceremony tomorrow so that the All-Star jerseys weren’t going to be an outragous shock to the traditionalist hockey fan. Can they really have a press release tomorrow, and not release any info until the All-Star week?[/quote]
Here’s the deal, direct from the NHL office: The public unveiling will be next Monday, 2pm eastern. Tomorrow’s event (which I will indeed attend) is just for people who won’t be in Dallas, and everyone attending, myself included, must agree to the embargo terms, which means I can’t discuss anything I see until next Monday afternoon.
I’m also told that USA Today will have a business story about the new uniforms on either Thursday or Friday. I don’t know if it’ll be about merchandising, or marketing, or licensing, or what — just “a business story.”
“We would like to keep the Caps and the Mystics in the same genre. I think it’d be great.â€Â
The same genre? What the heck does that mean?
[quote comment=”42200″]The guy on the far left of the supposed 1887 San Diego baseball picture looks an awful lot like Walter Johnson, the Hall of Fame pitcher. This may be a California winter league team from the teens or early twenties.[/quote]
i don’t know what walter johnson looked like but were they stringing electric and/or telephone wires around Sandy Eggo back in 1887?
[quote comment=”42318″]
Here’s the deal, direct from the NHL office: The public unveiling will be next Monday, 2pm eastern. Tomorrow’s event (which I will indeed attend) is just for people who won’t be in Dallas, and everyone attending, myself included, must agree to the embargo terms, which means I can’t discuss anything I see until next Monday afternoon.
I’m also told that USA Today will have a business story about the new uniforms on either Thursday or Friday. I don’t know if it’ll be about merchandising, or marketing, or licensing, or what — just “a business story.”[/quote]
I’m going to admit this fact right now: Gary Bettman is a blithering idiot.
Now that we have that fact out in the open, this is probably the stupidest idea for a “press conference” ever.
Why announce something, only to tell everyone that it’s actually a secret until the following week? Just have the press conference on Monday, for cripes’ sakes!
Sometimes, I think Gary Bettman gets all his ideas from a team of monkeys he has in his office.
Pat: Besides the fact that I already pointed out that he plays for Duke and doesn’t really deserve the common courtesy of us know how to spell his name correctly in the first place.
What does him playing for Duke have to do with spelling his name correctly? It doesn’t matter where he plays, his name should be spelled the right way.
What do you have against Duke that would make you say something like that?
[quote comment=”42323″][quote comment=”42318″]
Here’s the deal, direct from the NHL office: The public unveiling will be next Monday, 2pm eastern. Tomorrow’s event (which I will indeed attend) is just for people who won’t be in Dallas, and everyone attending, myself included, must agree to the embargo terms, which means I can’t discuss anything I see until next Monday afternoon.
I’m also told that USA Today will have a business story about the new uniforms on either Thursday or Friday. I don’t know if it’ll be about merchandising, or marketing, or licensing, or what — just “a business story.”[/quote]
I’m going to admit this fact right now: Gary Bettman is a blithering idiot.
Now that we have that fact out in the open, this is probably the stupidest idea for a “press conference” ever.
Why announce something, only to tell everyone that it’s actually a secret until the following week? Just have the press conference on Monday, for cripes’ sakes!
Sometimes, I think Gary Bettman gets all his ideas from a team of monkeys he has in his office.[/quote]
There is no team of monkeys. a team of monkeys would have come up with a better idea. This is all gary buttman’s idea. Way to f’ up another thing. Whats the last thing he did right?
[quote comment=”42323″]Why announce something, only to tell everyone that it’s actually a secret until the following week? Just have the press conference on Monday, for cripes’ sakes![/quote]
I think you’re off-base on this one, Teebz. It’s pretty great that they’re doing two separate unveilings — one in Dallas for the people who’ll be there for the All-Star Game, and one in NYC for people who won’t be in Dallas. Yes, the embargo is annoying, but in this case I understand. The alternative would be to have just one event in Dallas, period.
I don’t think the existence of NYC event was supposed to be made public. Instead, it was leaked in the NY Post on Sunday, and now the league is scrambling to keep up.
[quote comment=”42329″]Pat: Besides the fact that I already pointed out that he plays for Duke and doesn’t really deserve the common courtesy of us know how to spell his name correctly in the first place.
What does him playing for Duke have to do with spelling his name correctly? It doesn’t matter where he plays, his name should be spelled the right way.
What do you have against Duke that would make you say something like that?[/quote]
They are College basketball’s version of the Yankees to me. I can’t stand the Cameron Crazies, the way they have to shoot the game from the other side so you can see the “Crazies,” and most of the players that have been on their teams throughout the years have been wildly overrated and some, punks. Christian Laetner being the origin of my Duke hatred. But seriously, am I the only person that you have ever heard of that hates Duke. I mean, the comment was a joke, obviously, but I can’t imagine you haven’t encountered some sort of anti-Duke feelings somewhere in your life.
Bucci is the best American hockey writer. I’m happy that ESPN took Scott Burnside on staff. Beyond that, hockey coverage in this country is mediocre. I almost prefer English Premiership coverage, as they’re the same announcers that can be heard in England.
[quote comment=”42332″][quote comment=”42323″]Why announce something, only to tell everyone that it’s actually a secret until the following week? Just have the press conference on Monday, for cripes’ sakes![/quote]
I think you’re off-base on this one, Teebz. It’s pretty great that they’re doing two separate unveilings — one in Dallas for the people who’ll be there for the All-Star Game, and one in NYC for people who won’t be in Dallas. Yes, the embargo is annoying, but in this case I understand. The alternative would be to have just one event in Dallas, period.
I don’t think the existence of NYC event was supposed to be made public. Instead, it was leaked in the NY Post on Sunday, and now the league is scrambling to keep up.[/quote]
I think it makes less sense. The only people who really care about the NHL jerseys is the hockey media and all of them are going to be at the All-Star game, right? Now if Gary said, “Paul, we know you’re the top uni blogger out there, we’ll have a special unveiling for you so you can have a column ready to go on Monday” that would be one thing, but this makes no sense.
Is the attendee list under the embargo too? I’m suddenly curious as to who these “people who won’t be in Dallas” people are.
[quote comment=”42332″][quote comment=”42323″]Why announce something, only to tell everyone that it’s actually a secret until the following week? Just have the press conference on Monday, for cripes’ sakes![/quote]
I think you’re off-base on this one, Teebz. It’s pretty great that they’re doing two separate unveilings — one in Dallas for the people who’ll be there for the All-Star Game, and one in NYC for people who won’t be in Dallas. Yes, the embargo is annoying, but in this case I understand. The alternative would be to have just one event in Dallas, period.
I don’t think the existence of NYC event was supposed to be made public. Instead, it was leaked in the NY Post on Sunday, and now the league is scrambling to keep up.[/quote]
It was reported on HNIC on CBC on Saturday night that there was going to be a public unveiling. Ron MacLean said it during the Satellite Hot Stover portion of the program, and some reporter guy (I apologize that I don’t have his name) from Calgary responded to it. I pointed that out on the Saturday Open Thread. No one on Hockey Night in Canada would make that kind of mistake in terms of making this “secret press conference” public, especially someone like Ron MacLean, and then have it verified by another press reporter.
Since the All-Star game is being played on the 24th, a Wednesday, this makes absolutely zero sense. I don’t see how having two events makes it “pretty great”. In fact, I don’t see why the NHL can’t have one major event in NYC on Monday at the NHL offices for an announcement of this magnitude away from the festivities associated with the All-Star Game. There are games still being played on the Sunday, so why not make this the headline news for Monday since Tuesday is the Skills Competition and Wednesday is the actual game? That way, you pretty much dominate the headlines all week, something the NHL hasn’t done since the lock-out loomed.
I’m no PR guy or marketing guru, but it seems that the NHL is missing the ball here in terms of being front-page news for the sports section.
[quote comment=”42334″][quote comment=”42329″]Pat: Besides the fact that I already pointed out that he plays for Duke and doesn’t really deserve the common courtesy of us know how to spell his name correctly in the first place.
What does him playing for Duke have to do with spelling his name correctly? It doesn’t matter where he plays, his name should be spelled the right way.
What do you have against Duke that would make you say something like that?[/quote]
They are College basketball’s version of the Yankees to me. I can’t stand the Cameron Crazies, the way they have to shoot the game from the other side so you can see the “Crazies,” and most of the players that have been on their teams throughout the years have been wildly overrated and some, punks. Christian Laetner being the origin of my Duke hatred. But seriously, am I the only person that you have ever heard of that hates Duke. I mean, the comment was a joke, obviously, but I can’t imagine you haven’t encountered some sort of anti-Duke feelings somewhere in your life.[/quote]
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Do keep us posted on the NHL uniform update, Paul, whenever your sworn secrecy ends.
out of curiosity, are there any UNC students or residents of chapel hill on this blog?
gotta question for you…
[quote comment=”42362″]out of curiosity, are there any UNC students or residents of chapel hill on this blog?
gotta question for you…[/quote]
I thought YOU were a Tarheel!
[quote comment=”42363″][quote comment=”42362″]out of curiosity, are there any UNC students or residents of chapel hill on this blog?
gotta question for you…[/quote]
I thought YOU were a Tarheel![/quote]
I’ll ask my question now. What’s with the Ram? What do rams have to do with tarheels? Also, last night in the UNC v UCONN game there were male and female cheerleaders for a women’s b’ball game. Just throwing that out there in light of the article Paul linked to yesterday.
I think of all the AHL teams, the Rochester Amerks are the best logo and uni wise. Just take a look at all the logos on this page:
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To me it just stands out as the old school look type look rather than all these new logos with big animals on it.
Their link are just as nice too.
[quote comment=”42332″][quote comment=”42323″]Why announce something, only to tell everyone that it’s actually a secret until the following week? Just have the press conference on Monday, for cripes’ sakes![/quote]
I think you’re off-base on this one, Teebz. It’s pretty great that they’re doing two separate unveilings — one in Dallas for the people who’ll be there for the All-Star Game, and one in NYC for people who won’t be in Dallas. Yes, the embargo is annoying, but in this case I understand. The alternative would be to have just one event in Dallas, period.
I don’t think the existence of NYC event was supposed to be made public. Instead, it was leaked in the NY Post on Sunday, and now the league is scrambling to keep up.[/quote]
Hey, Bettman’s an American and a former NBA exec — no Canadian will ever miss an opportunity to bury him.
(Not that I or any other logical sports fan would say he’s done a great job, but every Canadian I know feels about him the way a Clevelander feels about Art Modell.)
[quote comment=”42370″]I think of all the AHL teams, the Rochester Amerks are the best logo and uni wise. Just take a look at all the logos on this page:
link
To me it just stands out as the old school look type look rather than all these new logos with big animals on it.
Their link are just as nice too.[/quote]
If you scroll down to the Worcester Sharks logo, you’ll notice the same “error” in their logo as in the parent club . . . .
[quote comment=”42366″][quote comment=”42363″][quote comment=”42362″]out of curiosity, are there any UNC students or residents of chapel hill on this blog?
gotta question for you…[/quote]
I thought YOU were a Tarheel![/quote]
I’ll ask my question now. What’s with the Ram? What do rams have to do with tarheels? Also, last night in the UNC v UCONN game there were male and female cheerleaders for a women’s b’ball game. Just throwing that out there in light of the article Paul linked to yesterday.[/quote]
nah. im from eastern pa. the hoops team is my number 1 favorite sports team. st. louis baseball would be second, however in relevance to me, it is actually closer to 10th than to second.
im actually looking to get a “BEAT DOOK” shirt sold by any organization there. the ones you can buy online look cheesy, and it seems the ones the students historically wear are much nicer.
as far as the ram, the story goes like this (copied and pasted from an online source verbatim)
In 1924, head cheerleader Vic Huggins, class of 1925 and co-author of the Carolina fight song “Here Comes Carolina,” decided UNC needed a mascot; he suggested the ram to honor Jack Merritt, a popular Tar Heel football player known as “The Battering Ram.”
[quote comment=”42370″]I think of all the AHL teams, the Rochester Amerks are the best logo and uni wise. Just take a look at all the logos on this page:
link
To me it just stands out as the old school look type look rather than all these new logos with big animals on it.
Their link are just as nice too.[/quote]
Thanks to Paul, all that stands out are the bad tape job on the Worcester Sharks stick and the asymmetry of the Providence Bruins’ logo.
Well, that and the sheer atrocity that is the new Milwaukee Admirals logo. What a disgrace.
I like the Amerks’ look, and also the Phantoms’ “Rorschach Test” take on the Flyers’ logo. I just wish they wore black instead of purple, like the Big Club.
[quote comment=”42374″][quote comment=”42366″][quote comment=”42363″][quote comment=”42362″]out of curiosity, are there any UNC students or residents of chapel hill on this blog?
gotta question for you…[/quote]
I thought YOU were a Tarheel![/quote]
I’ll ask my question now. What’s with the Ram? What do rams have to do with tarheels? Also, last night in the UNC v UCONN game there were male and female cheerleaders for a women’s b’ball game. Just throwing that out there in light of the article Paul linked to yesterday.[/quote]
nah. im from eastern pa. the hoops team is my number 1 favorite sports team. st. louis baseball would be second, however in relevance to me, it is actually closer to 10th than to second.
im actually looking to get a “BEAT DOOK” shirt sold by any organization there. the ones you can buy online look cheesy, and it seems the ones the students historically wear are much nicer.
as far as the ram, the story goes like this (copied and pasted from an online source verbatim)
In 1924, head cheerleader Vic Huggins, class of 1925 and co-author of the Carolina fight song “Here Comes Carolina,” decided UNC needed a mascot; he suggested the ram to honor Jack Merritt, a popular Tar Heel football player known as “The Battering Ram.”[/quote]
huh? So is the Tarheel not the mascot? just the name? I don’t get it. But then again, our fight song is “Bear Down Arizona” nary a mention of a wildcat.
It has nothing to do with him being an American. It has to do with the fact that he doesn’t know anything about hockey. Every Canadian hates him, because every Canadian is more knowledgable about the game than he is. So are most Americans who are actual fans of the game. In his attempt to draw in new fans, he is constantly changing the game, usually for the worse, and likely losing more fans than he is gaining. I’ve probably only watched 2-3 games this year, and listened to 2 on the radio. Five years ago at this point in the season, I’d probably have watched at least 30.
[quote comment=”42377″][quote comment=”42374″][quote comment=”42366″][quote comment=”42363″][quote comment=”42362″]out of curiosity, are there any UNC students or residents of chapel hill on this blog?
gotta question for you…[/quote]
I thought YOU were a Tarheel![/quote]
I’ll ask my question now. What’s with the Ram? What do rams have to do with tarheels? Also, last night in the UNC v UCONN game there were male and female cheerleaders for a women’s b’ball game. Just throwing that out there in light of the article Paul linked to yesterday.[/quote]
nah. im from eastern pa. the hoops team is my number 1 favorite sports team. st. louis baseball would be second, however in relevance to me, it is actually closer to 10th than to second.
im actually looking to get a “BEAT DOOK” shirt sold by any organization there. the ones you can buy online look cheesy, and it seems the ones the students historically wear are much nicer.
as far as the ram, the story goes like this (copied and pasted from an online source verbatim)
In 1924, head cheerleader Vic Huggins, class of 1925 and co-author of the Carolina fight song “Here Comes Carolina,” decided UNC needed a mascot; he suggested the ram to honor Jack Merritt, a popular Tar Heel football player known as “The Battering Ram.”[/quote]
huh? So is the Tarheel not the mascot? just the name? I don’t get it. But then again, our fight song is “Bear Down Arizona” nary a mention of a wildcat.[/quote]
Auburn is the Tigers but their fight song (or something like that) is “War Eagle”. So it’s not completely unusual.
[quote comment=”42370″]I think of all the AHL teams, the Rochester Amerks are the best logo and uni wise. Just take a look at all the logos on this page:
link
To me it just stands out as the old school look type look rather than all these new logos with big animals on it.
Their link are just as nice too.[/quote]
the Aeros went back to their link. It is a great one.
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[quote comment=”42377″][quote comment=”42374″][quote comment=”42366″][quote comment=”42363″][quote comment=”42362″]out of curiosity, are there any UNC students or residents of chapel hill on this blog?
gotta question for you…[/quote]
I thought YOU were a Tarheel![/quote]
I’ll ask my question now. What’s with the Ram? What do rams have to do with tarheels? Also, last night in the UNC v UCONN game there were male and female cheerleaders for a women’s b’ball game. Just throwing that out there in light of the article Paul linked to yesterday.[/quote]
nah. im from eastern pa. the hoops team is my number 1 favorite sports team. st. louis baseball would be second, however in relevance to me, it is actually closer to 10th than to second.
im actually looking to get a “BEAT DOOK” shirt sold by any organization there. the ones you can buy online look cheesy, and it seems the ones the students historically wear are much nicer.
as far as the ram, the story goes like this (copied and pasted from an online source verbatim)
In 1924, head cheerleader Vic Huggins, class of 1925 and co-author of the Carolina fight song “Here Comes Carolina,” decided UNC needed a mascot; he suggested the ram to honor Jack Merritt, a popular Tar Heel football player known as “The Battering Ram.”[/quote]
huh? So is the Tarheel not the mascot? just the name? I don’t get it. But then again, our fight song is “Bear Down Arizona” nary a mention of a wildcat.[/quote]
Tarheel is the school’s NICKNAME while the mascot is an actual image/suited person. So the Ram is the school’s MASCOT while Tarheels is the school’s NICKNAME.
Most people easily confuse the two and consider them the same thing.
For an easier example, look at Ole Miss. The school’s nickname is Rebels, but it has no mascot as of right now after eliminating Colonel Reb.
Paul asked who the Chargers were playing in link and concluded it was a logo-less Boston Patriots. I’m just speculating, but its possible that the Pats’ helmets were blank was because this may have been taken during a preseason game.
Also, here is a good site for NFL/AFL uniform perusal: link.
The talk about North Carolina and Auburn reminded me that Andy Rooney was talking about sports mascots this weekend. He made mention of “Bulldogs” and a full-screen graphic popped showing a number of different “Bulldogs” including Georgetown. Somebody back me up here, but the name “Hoyas” is actually taken from a cheer right? And, the bulldog is just an animal picked by the school much like the ram for UNC or the tiger for Auburn.
[quote comment=”42383″][quote comment=”42370″]I think of all the AHL teams, the Rochester Amerks are the best logo and uni wise. Just take a look at all the logos on this page:
link
To me it just stands out as the old school look type look rather than all these new logos with big animals on it.
Their link are just as nice too.[/quote]
the Aeros went back to their link. It is a great one.
link[/quote]
Indeed, the Bomber logo is amazing… to bad my Admirals didn’t do the right thing and go back to the IHL-vintage link… instead… I’m sorry, I don’t wanna talk about it… too painful…
[quote comment=”42385″]Paul asked who the Chargers were playing in link and concluded it was a logo-less Boston Patriots. I’m just speculating, but its possible that the Pats’ helmets were blank was because this may have been taken during a preseason game.
Also, here is a good site for NFL/AFL uniform perusal: link.[/quote]
Either that or they only carried the logo on one side of the helmet which is entirely possible since only one side of the helmet is shown in both the drawing and the photo
[quote comment=”42391″]The talk about North Carolina and Auburn reminded me that Andy Rooney was talking about sports mascots this weekend. He made mention of “Bulldogs” and a full-screen graphic popped showing a number of different “Bulldogs” including Georgetown. Somebody back me up here, but the name “Hoyas” is actually taken from a cheer right? And, the bulldog is just an animal picked by the school much like the ram for UNC or the tiger for Auburn.[/quote]
yeah, a cheer or saying, “hoya saxa”.
[quote comment=”42391″]The talk about North Carolina and Auburn reminded me that Andy Rooney was talking about sports mascots this weekend. He made mention of “Bulldogs” and a full-screen graphic popped showing a number of different “Bulldogs” including Georgetown. Somebody back me up here, but the name “Hoyas” is actually taken from a cheer right? And, the bulldog is just an animal picked by the school much like the ram for UNC or the tiger for Auburn.[/quote]
From what i recall reading years ago ‘Hoyas’ translated (latin i assume?) actually means “What Rocks?” And has nothing to do with a bulldog.
It’s really nice to see the Football Unis P & P link up again in a new location, though still not up-to-date.
Does anyone know if there are any plans for this site to be updated in the near future, or if anyone else has taken over at a new location?
[quote comment=”42412″]It’s really nice to see the Football Unis P & P link up again in a new location, though still not up-to-date.
Does anyone know if there are any plans for this site to be updated in the near future, or if anyone else has taken over at a new location?[/quote]
I’m hoping for a new location. This wierd wolf guy is one… weird little wolf.
looks like Webber is going to wear #84. Odd.
Over on espn.com they have a picture with Webber and his Pistons jersey. He’s wearing #84. Anyone know why?
Haven’t seen this mentioned here before: The Devil Rays will be wearing a link next year
[quote comment=”42425″]Over on espn.com they have a picture with Webber and his Pistons jersey. He’s wearing #84. Anyone know why?[/quote]
From the Detroit Pistons site…
“Webber goes to work Wednesday night – wearing No. 84, as suggested by his 6-year-old nephew who had a dream in which Uncle Chris was wearing that number”
Hey I was wondering if anyone else saw the KU-Missouri game last night. All of the KU players had something shaved in their hair and I can’t figure out what it is. You can see it last picture (18th) in this gallery. Anyone??
[quote comment=”42432″]Hey I was wondering if anyone else saw the KU-Missouri game last night. All of the KU players had something shaved in their hair and I can’t figure out what it is. You can see it last picture (18th) in this gallery.
Anyone??[/quote]
From the KU Basketball site…
“Sherron Collins tilted his head to unveil a zig-zag pattern shaved into the side of his noggin.
“It doesn’t signify anything. I do it all the time back home. It’s my graphic design,†Kansas University’s freshman guard from Chicago said with a smile.””
Damn link carried over!!!
Alright thanks.
Wait, so Collins did it and everyone followed, or what, because many of the players had it in thir hair, and could you give me the exact place where you found the quote on the website?
[quote comment=”42426″]Haven’t seen this mentioned here before: The Devil Rays will be wearing a link next year[/quote]
Cause they have sooo much to celebrate.
By the the way PC Fun Police…Women play sports was a joke!
Webber can’t wear his usual #4 (the one he wore professionally at Michigan, Golden State, Sacto and Philly) because former Pistons’ guard and current team president Joe Dumars has his #4 retired.
[quote comment=”42407″][quote comment=”42391″]The talk about North Carolina and Auburn reminded me that Andy Rooney was talking about sports mascots this weekend. He made mention of “Bulldogs” and a full-screen graphic popped showing a number of different “Bulldogs” including Georgetown. Somebody back me up here, but the name “Hoyas” is actually taken from a cheer right? And, the bulldog is just an animal picked by the school much like the ram for UNC or the tiger for Auburn.[/quote]
From what i recall reading years ago ‘Hoyas’ translated (latin i assume?) actually means “What Rocks?” And has nothing to do with a bulldog.[/quote]
It’s not a question. It’s “What rocks!”, referring to Georgetown football’s apparently tough linemen in the early days. The students, being the dorks they were, came up with a mixed Latin-Greek chant for their football team. The newspapers ran with it, and it remains today.
[quote comment=”42230″]The Cyclones posting got me looiking into ECHL jerseys. The Phoenix Roadrunners, aside from being one of the league’s most storied franchises (OK, that’s not saying much), have one of the league’s finest link.
Now, that’s nice. … I love that light blue in a hockey jersey, a la the Quebec Nordiques.[/quote]
As maybe the last American Nordique fan left standing, I have to weigh in: That Phoenix Roadrunner blue seems a couple shades lighter that what I remember les freres Stasny wearing.
[quote comment=”42438″]Wait, so Collins did it and everyone followed, or what, because many of the players had it in thir hair, and could you give me the exact place where you found the quote on the website?[/quote]
link
Here’s more fuel for the fire, Paul:
“Each week, Hockey Night in Canada’s Scott Morrison takes you behind Saturday night’s Satellite Hotstove discussions.
“NEW UNIFORMS: The league is set to unveil new uniforms at a news conference Wednesday in New York. The design has been in development for more than three years. It is being called a new uniform system. Originally it was believed the uniforms would be tucked in, but that won’t be the case. They will be streamlined and will be worn by the players at the all-star game. Some players have said they don’t like them, even though they supposedly offer more flexibility and less bulk. Regardless, everyone will be wearing them next season.”
The original link is link.
Do you see what I’m getting at? This news conference is hardly a secret. NHL’s Team of Monkeys – 1… NHL fans – 0.
I’m quite sure the worst way to do business is by keeping those who make the NHL rich (the fans) out of the loop when it comes to products the NHL is trying to peddle to us.
This embargo is an insult to me, the long-time fan, on whom the NHL relies so heavily.
[quote comment=”42321″][quote comment=”42200″]The guy on the far left of the supposed 1887 San Diego baseball picture looks an awful lot like Walter Johnson, the Hall of Fame pitcher. This may be a California winter league team from the teens or early twenties.[/quote]
i don’t know what walter johnson looked like but were they stringing electric and/or telephone wires around Sandy Eggo back in 1887?[/quote]
The San Diego Gas Company got involved in electric in 1887 (and was renamed SD Gas and Electric). The first lights were brought to the city in that year. No way they got insulated cable (not invented until the early 1900’s) up on poles like that in 1887. However, San Diego did have telephone lines run out to places like Escondido, Oceanside, and La Jolla by 1887. Information from the SD Historical Society link. (Warning – that link is not for the history faint of heart)
So, it is still plausible that it is a photo of remarkable (and possibly impossible) quality from 1887. The only other historical evidence is the ad for the suit maker, but I can’t figure out what it is.
Now that I have laid bare my true and complete dorkiness, I will sulk away quietly.
Okay, Paul is right. The first one of those photos is from 1907, not 1887. It’s a shot of the San Diego Pickwicks, which I found in the superb book, Baseball In San Diego, by Bill Swank. And John S. has a sharp eye, too, because that is indeed Walter Johnson.
Thanks for letting San Diego represent today, Paul!
[quote comment=”42211″]this 1921 shot guy on the left looks liek the guy from the Enzyte male enhancement commercials[/quote]
LOL, Quite true- the resemblance is striking! “Bob is doing well- very well indeed!”
Thanks for representing San Diego today Paul. I’ve lived in the Bay Area most of my life, but I’m here in SD now for school. We have a pretty good San Diego Sports Hall of Fame; I might have to get over there and grab some cool pics and such to send off to you. They have some good ones in the Photography museum in Balboa Park as well, right next to the picture of a lady walking an anteater!
And since I was born in Anaheim, I feel qualified to comment: The LA of A thing is STUPID AS HELL. My dad and uncle saw the Angels owner at a spring training game last year, and had to restrain themselves from going down and telling him how utterly idiotic it sounded.
[quote comment=”42511″]Okay, Paul is right. The first one of those photos is from 1907, not 1887. It’s a shot of the San Diego Pickwicks, which I found in the superb book, Baseball In San Diego, by Bill Swank. And John S. has a sharp eye, too, because that is indeed Walter Johnson.
Thanks for letting San Diego represent today, Paul![/quote]
Good point also because in some quick googling of San Diego history the two most famous Pickwick’s in San Diego are the Theatre built (1904-05) and the Hotel built (1926)
the 1963 Pats helmets had logos but your 1963 photo showing a Pat’s game versus the Chargers is from pre season. Point – In the early 1960s several AFL teams (including the Pats) did not wear their helmet logos until the regular season started (there would also be a “All American City†memorial badge logo on the front of the Charger helmet for 1963 regular season games.