A few disclaimers to start off the year: First, I watched exactly zero football over the holiday weekend, so you’ll have to forgive me if I missed a few things. Also, I spent very little time on the computer over the past few days (I’m still catching up on e-mail and reading through the Comments sections), so if you sent me something and I didn’t respond or include it in the ticker, hang in there — it’ll take me a few more days to get back up to speed.
Now then: Back on December 20th, I linked to this article about the Redskins’ cheerleaders, which in turn included a link to this timeline. That prompted a my-t-informative dispatch from Becky Stein, as follows:
Thought you’d like to know that that “present” outfit [in the timeline] is actually not the current one. I know, cuz I worked for the company that made ’em (and the outfits for a bunch of other squads, too) from 1999 until last June. The uni has changed very slightly each of the last few years. The one shown in the timeline was from about 2001. We dropped the waistband on the shorts slightly each of the next two years, redesigned the top (that one was the “420-3F,” and their current top is a version of the “260-2” halter [you can see these and many of the company’s other standard styles here — PL]), changed the rhinestone patterns, etc. Also: This year Donald Wells — Director of Cheerleaders and Entertainment for the Redskins — asked for a short that has striping on the side to match their neckline trim, and to go with their “jersey tops.”
There’s a good photo gallery here that shows a lot of the company’s cheerleader uniforms. If you go look closely at the New England Patriots pic, you’ll notice that she’s wearing a Buffalo Jills skirt — they screwed up during the photo shoot two years ago!
As far as I know, only a few companies make the girls’ unis, and you might be surprised to know that they aren’t the logo-creepers — at least not for the signature outfit each team wears. The big three are the Line Up, Satin Stitches, and Angela King Designs [you might want to mute your computer’s sound before checking out the Angela King page — PL].
If you want to know more, there’s a blog specifically geared to pro cheerleading, with GREAT photos and links to all the other cheerleading pages.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say I’d like to do a cheerleader on the 50 yard line thanks to Becky for that dynamite introduction to the world of cheerleader uni design.
A few thoughts:
• I like it when a cheerleader’s uniform mimics a few elements of the team’s football uni. Striped sleeves? Good. Striped boots that look like striped socks? Even better.
• It strikes me as nothing short of bizarre that you can dress up your very young child as an NFL cheerleader (additional disturbing examples here and here).
• If the NBA can have cheerleaders on the court, why can’t the NHL have cheerleaders on the ice? A marketing coup waiting to happen!
• Is it just me, or do some of those NFL cheerleaders look a bit androgynous?
Coming tomorrow: a thorough examination of the waitress uniforms at Hooters.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Sunday’s entry about sailor-hatted school mascots brough this from John Okray: “The ‘Strutting Wolf’ of NC State, who also wears a sailor hat, was designed in the 1970s by a student. However, everyone knows that the student ripped off the idea from Bucky Badger of the University of Wisconsin (which was designed in 1940). The logo theft is still a controversy today in Madison.” ”¦ Movie review from John Philips: “While watching the Will Smith movie Pursuit of Happyness, I completely irritated my wife with my noting of an erroneous uniform worn in a 1981 Giants/49ers game that’s central to the movie. While the 49er uniforms were the old 1980s style, the Giants were wearing blue pants, which were only worn from 1975 through 1978. My wife gave me a disgusted look and munched some popcorn.” ”¦ The minor league Grand Rapids Griffins rang in the new year with tuxedo-styled jerseys (an extra champagne toast to Brittany Mohr). ”¦ Anyone know what the story is behind the new jerseys being worn by the Wisconsin hockey team? ”¦ The new MLB batting practice jerseys (slightly updated from the last round we saw), straight off of Majestic’s web site. ”¦ Great first-hand report from Matt Ryburn, who writes: “I’ve worked the Rose Bowl as an usher the past nine years. We wear a Rose Bowl cap, which we keep, and a Rose Bowl jacket, which has be returned in order to get paid. Anyway, we had these old, ratty button-up jackets for several years, and they were pretty horrible. But this year we got new ones, and I had to smirk when I saw the supplier. But I was very grateful for the jacket’s quality. Our hats are also made by the same supplier, but they were ugly in my opinion, so I did not wear mine.”
Wow, I kinda liked the Rose Bowl hats. Usually from “that supplier” I expect something hideously garish, and this one seemed (at least on TV) to be nicely understated.
The Wisconsin hockey duds look like a pawn job on the old-school Detroit Red Wings jerseys that the Wing-nuts resurrected a couple years back for the 75th anniversary of the NHL… Anyone agree?
Way to ring in the new year!
One minor correction regarding the title of that new Will Smith film: it’s spelled “Happyness”. This will warrant a post on HollywoodTitleWatch, where editors like myself continue to grumble about the lack of a needed apostrophe in the title of the Sandra Bullock vehicle “Two Weeks Notice”.
Between link and being a part of link, Jared stays pretty busy.
Seriously, those jackets are pretty cool…even cooler if they get to keep them.
Hockey does have some semblance of cheerleaders on the ice. The Flyers have their Ice Team that clears the ice build-ups during stoppages and shoot t-shirts out of cannons link, and I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.
The Detroit Red Wings will retire Steve Yzerman’s number 19 tonight before their game against the Ducks.
I hope we don’t see all the Wings wearing #19 during the pregame warmup. I think the Wings would be above that. Right?
[quote comment=”37242″]The Wisconsin hockey duds look like a pawn job on the old-school Detroit Red Wings jerseys that the Wing-nuts resurrected a couple years back for the 75th anniversary of the NHL… Anyone agree?[/quote]
Yeah, that was the first thing that came to my mind. I wonder if they meant to design jerseys like the old Wings jerseys.
Oh, and Minna, I know what happened to Michigan: they traveled to the west coast. That’s almost always bad news (see also: previous regular-season games against Oregon, Washington and UCLA). There are other things I could say, too, but I’m leaving that alone until I settle down a little bit.
as for the Wisconsin jerseys — they hosted their annual holiday tournament last weekend, which is usually a chance to break out the alternates. why they chose that particular ugly-ass style, i do not know.
oh, and my beloved Minnesota Golden Gophers hockey squad has on-ice cheerleaders, as do a couple other college teams …
[quote comment=”37245″]Hockey does have some semblance of cheerleaders on the ice. The Flyers have their Ice Team that clears the ice build-ups during stoppages and shoot t-shirts out of cannons link, and I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.[/quote]
You beat me to this! I went to the Devils game in Philly and saw those girls for the very first time. One of the girls forgot to take off her skate guards before coming out and took a spill right on her back side…the highlight of the game!
Is it just me or do the Red Sox new batting practice jerseys look like they have blue/red pit stains? Why don’t they get a contrasting colored side panel instead like every other team instead?
[quote comment=”37245″]Hockey does have some semblance of cheerleaders on the ice. The Flyers have their Ice Team that clears the ice build-ups during stoppages and shoot t-shirts out of cannons link, and I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.[/quote]
The Islanders were the first NHL team to have “link“, and god bless’em for it.
[quote comment=”37251″][quote comment=”37245″]Hockey does have some semblance of cheerleaders on the ice. The Flyers have their Ice Team that clears the ice build-ups during stoppages and shoot t-shirts out of cannons link, and I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.[/quote]
You beat me to this! I went to the Devils game in Philly and saw those girls for the very first time. One of the girls forgot to take off her skate guards before coming out and took a spill right on her back side…the highlight of the game![/quote]
Haha I remember that! I was listening to it on the radio and after the break the announcers had a little chuckle about it. To defend her they also gave stories about the times they did it, and how it can almost pull an ACL or really break some bones if you don’t catch yourself.
[quote comment=”37252″]Is it just me or do the Red Sox new batting practice jerseys look like they have blue/red pit stains? Why don’t they get a contrasting colored side panel instead like every other team instead?[/quote]
*snarky mode on*
Or, better yet, just make it all red.
*snarky mode off*
do any NHL teams have traditional cheerleaders (ya know, with pom-poms etc…) instead of the ‘clean-up crews’ that I’ve seen?
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Not cheerleaders but they halp clean up the ice shavings during time outs.
Go to college at Mn-Deuluth
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I attended the 1995 ACHA Division I National Tournament (club-level collegiate hockey), where North Dakota State University brought their cheerleaders. They did not make it on the ice, but performed their cheers standing in the aisles.
NHL cheerleaders are a bad idea for two reasons: 1) cheerleading requires some pretty good skill and ability, and adding skates to cheerleaders opens the door to a world of injuries; and 2) figure skaters would be insulted to be called “cheerleaders”. Pom poms and skates don’t go together when doing a dance routine on the ice.
Even though link, I don’t think you’d find too many female figure skaters lining up for this “opportunity”.
However, I do have to say that I watch figure skating for link. link!
[quote comment=”37256″][quote comment=”37252″]Is it just me or do the Red Sox new batting practice jerseys look like they have blue/red pit stains? Why don’t they get a contrasting colored side panel instead like every other team instead?[/quote]
*snarky mode on*
Or, better yet, just make it all red.
*snarky mode off*[/quote]
Well, clearly. But since they seem intent on some sort of side coloring why not the whole side panel instead of just a small spot under the arm? I’d rather see them do away with the red anyway and just go with navy blue for the BP jersey and the sometimes Sunday jersey.
Man, do I miss Miami.
Anyhow, looks like the “Ditch the Black” campagin has made its way to the HS level…sort of.
VT School Says NO! to Black Unis
Following my Canadian Olympic roots after that Jamie Salé picture show, here are link at the Turin Olympics.
They actually have these cheerleaders in a lot of arenas in European hockey. It’s supposed to be for entertainment for the fans, but the majority of fans just ignore them. Some dance with them, but I’d say 90% don’t even pay attention.
is there anyone here “in the know” about how the field graphics transition will take place for the national title game?
new sod and paint?
i would assume that the field for the national title game would get preferential treatment over the fiesta bowl.
like usual this game featured a ton of field paint for the endzones, as well as the oversized midfield graphic. it looks bush league to paint over any existing graphics to create a blank canvas. (see psu/tenn. game midfield graphic and lincoln financial field after the army/navy game)
is there enough time to “wash out” all that paint?
The Canucks’ ice team?
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Something from the ugly Michigan game last night, Michigan WR Adrian Arrington did not have the horrible Nike mismatched “culture” sleeves early in the game (like West Virginia’s): link but later on, he had them on about t-shirt length, looking like he stole them from West Virginia. I couldn’t find photo confirmation, but he was definitely wearing them, the first time I’ve seen a Michigan player wear them
I am sure this topic has been addressed here before, but I am curious, are the number fonts on the back of Oklahoma’s uniforms as big as they get or has some team worn even larger numbers then they do?
[quote comment=”37268″]is there anyone here “in the know” about how the field graphics transition will take place for the national title game?
new sod and paint?
i would assume that the field for the national title game would get preferential treatment over the fiesta bowl.
like usual this game featured a ton of field paint for the endzones, as well as the oversized midfield graphic. it looks bush league to paint over any existing graphics to create a blank canvas. (see psu/tenn. game midfield graphic and lincoln financial field after the army/navy game)
is there enough time to “wash out” all that paint?[/quote]
I’m not exactly in the know, but doesn’t the field in glendale have removeable turf so they can remove portions of it on trays for better growing? Could they possible have 2 different endzone and 50-yard line sections? It’d look a lot better than trying to repaint with such a short turn-around, and likely wouldn’t be overly expensive.
[quote comment=”37269″]The Canucks’ ice team?
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I wonder if the NHL has a template for the ice crews to follow. I’ve gone to a few Columbus Blue Jackets games, and their ice crew “uniforms” are very similar to what others have posted today.
Wow…this is prehaps the greatest topic EVER on here. I can’t wait until tommorrow’s topic!!
On another note….although this mascot is NOT depicted wearing a sailor hat, I thought our friends in North Carolina and Wisconsin would like to see an old link logo.
Yes, the stadium actually rolls the entire field out of the building to grow in the sunlight. Therefore, I’d imagine they have extra sections growing for this reason, and it had to be a selling point when they asked for two bowl games in a week…
There has been some black Bball uniform rumors at Texas A&M. Apparently they are new alternate unis that the team loves. Here are two pics.
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Another team pulling black into their color scheme to update thei image or something. As an Aggie grad, I have a maroon and white painted room in my house. Where did the black come from?
[quote comment=”37281″]There has been some black Bball uniform rumors at Texas A&M. Apparently they are new alternate unis that the team loves. Here are two pics.
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Another team pulling black into their color scheme to update thei image or something. As an Aggie grad, I have a maroon and white painted room in my house. Where did the black come from?[/quote]
Man if I were the AD there, I’d tell every player that there are hundreds of schools they could have gone to if they wanted to wear black. Here, it’s maroon. Deal with it!
This weekend, I saw “Little Miss Sunshine,” so here’s a socks picture from the movie, for Paul.
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Here’s Pittsburgh Penguins Patrol:
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I second the NFL Cheerleader blog — that’s actually where I found the inspiration for the original post. All kinds of aesthetics/uni-related goodness over there.
“Coming tomorrow: a thorough examination of the waitress uniforms at Hooters.”
Paul, I assume you are just kidding here, but now that you tempted us, I will never read this blog again if I dont see at leat one Hooter picture tomorrow.
Perhaps you can find one with a variation on the normal Hooters attire.
Just make sure the girl in the pic is genuinely qualified to be a Hooters girl.
[quote comment=”37279″]Yes, the stadium actually rolls the entire field out of the building to grow in the sunlight. Therefore, I’d imagine they have extra sections growing for this reason, and it had to be a selling point when they asked for two bowl games in a week…[/quote]
I don’t think there’s any ‘extra’ sections of turf. The field is one unit that rolls in and out of the stadium. I think they’d just repaint the sucker.
Speaking of cheerleaders… gotta like link from yesterday’s Rose Bowl game.
[quote comment=”37242″]The Wisconsin hockey duds look like a pawn job on the old-school Detroit Red Wings jerseys that the Wing-nuts resurrected a couple years back for the 75th anniversary of the NHL… Anyone agree?[/quote]
Wholeheartedly – and I like!! Badger Bob Johnson is smiling down I’m sure…
[quote comment=”37284″]Here’s Pittsburgh Penguins Patrol:
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Can I have Nicole’s phone #? (Redheads rock!) Oh, wait, I live nowhere near Pittsburgh?
[quote comment=”37255″][quote comment=”37251″][quote comment=”37245″]Hockey does have some semblance of cheerleaders on the ice. The Flyers have their Ice Team that clears the ice build-ups during stoppages and shoot t-shirts out of cannons link, and I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.[/quote]
You beat me to this! I went to the Devils game in Philly and saw those girls for the very first time. One of the girls forgot to take off her skate guards before coming out and took a spill right on her back side…the highlight of the game![/quote]
Haha I remember that! I was listening to it on the radio and after the break the announcers had a little chuckle about it. To defend her they also gave stories about the times they did it, and how it can almost pull an ACL or really break some bones if you don’t catch yourself.[/quote]
Me – high school freshman at the time – league championship game, older brother on the team notices that I have not removed my skate guards – comes up with some bull%#$@ story about the freshman going out on the ice first, about 400 people in the arena, and I wipe out one step onto the ice and get laughed at by the entire arena…
We won by the way….
First, I took 11 days off work, so I have a lot of catching up to do. It’s hard to stay up to the minute on uni news when you’re skiing in New Mexico.
Second, this topic is dangerous for surfing at work! I tell my co-workers, I swear it’s a sports uni blog, I promise.
And finally, in preparation of MLB’s change in caps to polyester, my dad, brother, and I all got classic new LA Dodgers wool caps for Christmas. Pic here: link
Note the TCU sweatshirt I got my brother. As a courtesy to Paul I opted for purple-on-gray rather than white-on-purple.
Happy New Year to all Uni Watchers…it’s good to be back.
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Note the TCU sweatshirt I got my brother. As a courtesy to Paul I opted for purple-on-gray rather than white-on-purple.
Happy New Year to all Uni Watchers…it’s good to be back.[/quote]
I went to law school with a TCU grad. He had to wear something that was purple every single day. If he wore a suit, the tie was purple. Else his shirt or pants or SOMETHING was purple.
[quote comment=”37268″]is there anyone here “in the know” about how the field graphics transition will take place for the national title game?
new sod and paint?
i would assume that the field for the national title game would get preferential treatment over the fiesta bowl.
like usual this game featured a ton of field paint for the endzones, as well as the oversized midfield graphic. it looks bush league to paint over any existing graphics to create a blank canvas. (see psu/tenn. game midfield graphic and lincoln financial field after the army/navy game)
is there enough time to “wash out” all that paint?[/quote]
One of the FOX commentators actually made a good point that they really don’t need to do much of a decoration change between last night’s Boise St./Oklahoma game and the Florida/Ohio St. game – very similar color schemes for the pairs of schools. And Tostitos sponsors both games.
And do you think the University of Phoenix is a little upset today? They pay all of this money for naming rights to the stadium in Glendale, and FOX kept calling it “Cardinals Stadium.” Think the NCAA had a hand in that decision? I do.
[quote comment=”37245″]I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.[/quote]
I wouldn’t doubt it. Their AHL team has had a dance team for a few games this year.
What’s up with the BP jerseys? It looks like the only difference with the Blue Jays and Yankees home and away ones is white/grey accents.
And what’s up with home and away BP jerseys? Unecessary.
[quote comment=”37288″]Speaking of cheerleaders… gotta like link from yesterday’s Rose Bowl game.[/quote]
All the bad high school porno movie fantasies I ever had just came back for a split second…DON’T DO THAT TO UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE! Just kidding…
Seriously, any women posters on here – explain to me why a young lady wearing a skirt that short would not wear something underneath…unless it was a prank. I thought all cheerleader uniforms had the shorts underneath that look like a bathing suit…could she be wearing a thong? Maybe a Britney Spears fan?
Dan Marino must be proud of those Miami Cheerleaders. you usually dont see cheerleaders, mascots, etc wearing numbers of current of former ball players
[quote comment=”37288″]Speaking of cheerleaders… gotta like link from yesterday’s Rose Bowl game.[/quote]
nice cheeks
[quote comment=”37242″]The Wisconsin hockey duds look like a pawn job on the old-school Detroit Red Wings jerseys that the Wing-nuts resurrected a couple years back for the 75th anniversary of the NHL… Anyone agree?[/quote]
At least they weren’t the goofy ‘Sconnie unis from last years link… although this season’s version are a little reminiscent of this season’s.
The only think missing from those “bubble” numbers from last season’s are hearts and smiley faces dotting the i’s.
In Minnesota, hockey cheerleaders, both High School and College, have been around for at least 40 years. They are on the ice performing cheers before the game and in between periods. And of course they are in the stands cheering during the game. Also back in the early 70s, the Minnesota Fighting Saints of the WHA had a figure skater perform in between periods. She was dressed cheerleader-like in Saints’ colors.
link indeed is the Carolina Hurricanes Storm Squad. They were formed in 1999 when the team moved to the new arena in Raleigh.
UMass-Lowell used to have cheerleaders for its hockey games, but got rid of them when the school moved the games to Tsongas Arena.
UMass-Lowell and Maine are playing a “turn back the clock” series this weekend back at the old arena (complete with 1981-era jerseys), and I am curious to see if the cheerleaders come back.
[quote comment=”37301″]In Minnesota, hockey cheerleaders, both High School and College, have been around for at least 40 years. They are on the ice performing cheers before the game and in between periods. And of course they are in the stands cheering during the game. Also back in the early 70s, the Minnesota Fighting Saints of the WHA had a figure skater perform in between periods. She was dressed cheerleader-like in Saints’ colors.[/quote]
Don’t forget about about the North Stars’ “Electric Stars”! Although they were never on the ice, as I recall. Norm sucks…
I went to a Maple Grove hockey game a couple of weeks ago and saw an interesting cheerleader uni set up… they’re cheerleaders all wear small (girl) hockey jerseys with their graduation year on the back (08, 09, etc.). I wanted to snap a couple of pictures to post here, but I thought it might look a little creepy… a 30-something year old dude sitting by himself at a high school game snapping pics of cheerleaders…
The special Badger jerseys for the Showdown are miles better than the infamous “link” of the late 90s. link.
Call me unsentimental, but I think that helmet stickers for deceased players, alumni, etc are kinda tacky. I just can’t picture Schembechler watching the game in the great hereafter and saying, “I, tell you what, Jerry, those little stickers made it all worthwhile,” and giving the late Prez a big high-five.
[quote comment=”37302″]link indeed is the Carolina Hurricanes Storm Squad. They were formed in 1999 when the team moved to the new arena in Raleigh.[/quote]
*Paul Zimmerman Flaming Redhead mode on*
What? No redheads? They lose status in my book.
*Dr. Z. Flaming Redhead mode off*
2k4s
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hmm… if you go to the Line Up’s website and click on their link designs, you’ll notice something very unsettling about their colors…
[quote comment=”37302″]link indeed is the Carolina Hurricanes Storm Squad. They were formed in 1999 when the team moved to the new arena in Raleigh.[/quote]
Um, they have a much longer, much more vomit-inducing sponsored name than the “Storm Squad”.
The squad’s official name is “BlueCross BlueShield of NC Storm Squad”.
Ok, let’s see…
Cheerleaders: yes please
LA Angels: Kudos for being the only team to not fill the BP jersey side panels with one or two accent colors.
Song Girls: Anybody with HD and a DVR care to take a closer look?
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look at the photoshoot vid for the most excellent miniskirt uni’s. Almost good enough to make me forgive Wirtz for his terrible ownership.
I don’t know if she’s a link, but she made my morning a little cheerier.
Fox Sports has a link Poll going. Just a FYI.
[quote comment=”37264″]NHL cheerleaders are a bad idea for two reasons: 1) cheerleading requires some pretty good skill and ability, and adding skates to cheerleaders opens the door to a world of injuries; and 2) figure skaters would be insulted to be called “cheerleaders”. Pom poms and skates don’t go together when doing a dance routine on the ice.
Even though link, I don’t think you’d find too many female figure skaters lining up for this “opportunity”.
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Pretty much echos what I was going to say.
Couple questions about the new batting practice jerseys:
1) When did this bullshit practice start and what team started it and why?
2) Why the fuck do the Blue Jays and Yankees even bother to have two jerseys? The only difference is in the color of the side stripe which I guarantee you will be invisible 99.99999999999999999998% of the time. At least the Red Sox and Phillies when with completely different colors for their two jerseys.
Oh yeah, one more thing about the Blue Jays: cut out all of the bullshit about not having ANY blue in your unis. Either bring the blue back or change the name of the fucking team. I read the recent bit about why the Blue Jays don’t have any blue in their unis these days and it struck me as one othe singularly most immature and childish reasons one could possibly try and justify.
As for doing a cheerleader on the 50 yard line, meh.
Speaking from firsthand experience, nothing beats having sex with a cheerleader in the wrestling practice room with the padded walls and floor.
Ben, do you wanna tone down the language? There are people younger than 16 that read this.
Personally, if you have to swear to get your message across, it isn’t worth posting.
for whatever it’s worth, the phoenix coyotes claim to have the first and only “traditional” cheerleaders in the nhl (i.e. no skates, wear special shoes on the ice, use pom-poms, and do “regular” dance routines).
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[quote comment=”37290″][quote comment=”37284″]Here’s Pittsburgh Penguins Patrol:
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Can I have Nicole’s phone #? (Redheads rock!) Oh, wait, I live nowhere near Pittsburgh?[/quote]
EGADS MAN!
What happened to you as a youth to make you desire such a hideous “woman”. She looks like my high school math teacher, and trust me, HE wasnt too easy on the eyes.
Come on man, with so many pics of cheerleaders on here, that is the one girl you single out?
I hope for your sake that you were being sarcastic.
While watching Boise State’s back-and-forth victory last night I noticed some odd chinstrap inconsistencies.
-First, Jared Zabransky has a habit of unbuckling his chinstrap Brett Favre style frequently after plays. I noticed he always unsnapped his left side and pulled only once to get it off, but side still attatched had two hook-ups buckled. Upon further review, he sure had two straps on link and only one on the link.
-Not everyone on the Broncos had matching chinstraps as you can see on link.
Oh and Ben, I’m with Teebz on this one.
The field has also seen more use.
High school championship games for Class 4A Division II and 5A Division II were played at the stadium on Dec. 2. On Saturday, the 4-month-old facility hosted two Division I title matches.
The Cardinals beat the Seattle Seahawks the next day. The Cardinals play their last home game against the Denver Broncos this Sunday.
Cardinals spokesman Mark Dalton, whose team is responsible for maintaining the field during the NFL season, said that while the center of the field looked “slightly discolored,” he hadn’t heard any complaints from coaches or players about loose turf or footing issues.
“Having played three football games in 36 hours, there was some wear that affected it aesthetically,” Dalton said. “But from a performance standpoint, it was as good as it’s been.”
With just three weeks to go before the Fiesta Bowl, spokesman Shawn Schoeffler said the organization will evaluate the condition of the field after the Cardinals’ last home game, then decide where new sod is needed.
After Boise State and Oklahoma duel in the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 1, ground crews will cover the field with a second layer of sod for the first-ever BCS national title game, Schoeffler said. Ohio State takes on Florida on Jan. 8,
“We want to make sure the field is in the best possible shape for the four teams playing in the two bowls,” Schoeffler said.
Both Cardinals and Fiesta Bowl officials said they backed having the series of high school games at the $455 million, multi-use facility, saying the experience of playing in an NFL stadium gives students a lasting memory.
But Davis, the Tucson fan, didn’t share in that sentiment.
“Those high school games were a mistake,” he said, adding that the grass was too young to handle so much activity. “Ryegrass roots are not that deep, and having all those games just tears it up.”
From link
As an answer to the turf debate.
So they’re just gonna stack new sod on top of the old? Interesting… figured if they had another field prepared they’d toss out the old one instead of using it as a base for the new one. Seems like it would add a lot of weight to the system that pulls the field out of the stadium.
The NY rangers had “ice girls” for awhile, unitl they sued the team because the under-21 girls cliamed they being plied with liquor and lewd comments from management. (And, this was before Isiah Thomas.)
The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.
At the Saginaw Spirit game they used quite a few cheerleaders. Mostly they were in the aisles in the seating area however they had a separate group perform at centre ice during the second intermission. Only team i’ve seen do this so far.
[quote comment=”37326″]The NY rangers had “ice girls” for awhile, unitl they sued the team because the under-21 girls cliamed they being plied with liquor and lewd comments from management. (And, this was before Isiah Thomas.)[/quote]
Was going to mention that…in fact one of the former ice girls sued the Garden…seems to be a recurring theme at the Dolan Estate at 32nd and 33rd and 7th and 8th. We don’t need ice girls – I’d rather have a fine looking girl next to me in a jersey who can honestly point out that the power play looks like garbage because they don’t shoot the puck enough. Now THAT’S sexy!
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Was going to mention that…in fact one of the former ice girls sued the Garden…seems to be a recurring theme at the Dolan Estate at 32nd and 33rd and 7th and 8th. We don’t need ice girls – I’d rather have a fine looking girl next to me in a jersey who can honestly point out that the power play looks like garbage because they don’t shoot the puck enough. Now THAT’S sexy![/quote]
I’ll one-up that, Bill. If she can tell me that the PP sucks because they don’t shoot enough while looking for the pretty pass, and rip the team for letting Jagr wander around the ice for the entire two minutes while doing nothing productive, I’d marry her on the spot. :o)
Regarding profanity on the board: I have no problem with the occasional “fuck” or “bullshit” (as I just demonstrated). Most of us talk this way at least some of the time, and I see nothing wrong with a conversational writing style. Everyone here, regardless of age, should be able to handle that.
An overly aggressive or combative tone is more problematic, whether it includes profanity or not. In other words, it’s not so much what you say — it’s how you say it.
Basically, keep it civil and intelligent, in equal measure.
[quote comment=”37319″]Ben, do you wanna tone down the language? There are people younger than 16 that read this.
Personally, if you have to swear to get your message across, it isn’t worth posting.[/quote]
Oh please.
You can’t possibly be that naive, to believe that in this day and age a kid hasn’t heard and used all of the major swear words by the time they’re in first grade.
And you seem to think it’s perfectly alright for an oh-so-impressionable youth to look at pictures of a cheerleaders naked ass, but if they see the word fuck they’re going to go on a shooting spree.
Talk about being a hypocrite.
I have noticed that link and the link jerseys look alarmingly alike. Mostly the shoulder stripes.
woops my bad. link the steelers.
[quote comment=”37319″]Ben, do you wanna tone down the language? There are people younger than 16 that read this.
Personally, if you have to swear to get your message across, it isn’t worth posting.[/quote]
Personally, I’ve heard 16 years olds voice much worse language. If anything that sucks about the world, is people trying to make everying kiddy-friendly / G-rated.
[quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…
[quote comment=”37317″]
As for doing a cheerleader on the 50 yard line, meh. [/quote]
Personally, I feel that women have no business being in any men’s sporting games. I find cheerleaders a distraction, annoying, and just flat-out irrelevant. I came to watch my team play & win, not to be distracted by dance moves and loud & general redundant music on the P.A. system.
[quote comment=”37342″]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
I think the NFL was experimenting with technologies to create an “on-field” movable first-down marker (besides the guy holding the orange stick). It seems that lasers were the preference. I can’t find articles to show that at the moment.
I agree, it is up to the parents to limit what thier childern are exposed to, not to censor everyone else because of it. I grew up in the late eighties early nineties, and we thought we were cool in third grade using every fould word in the book, didn’t know what they meant, but we sure used them.
If anything that sucks about the world, is people trying to make everying kiddy-friendly / G-rated.
If you think THAT is what really sucks about the world, then you must live in Neverland.
More pics of the USC song girl.
NSFWish
link
link
To all you who don’t mind the profanity, for the most part I don’t mind it either – heck this is the internet where a google search on the mammal “beaver” can bring you to 43,627 porno sites. That being said, if I’m walking with my kids and I hear someone dropping f-bombs in the mall, I have been known to say on more than one occasion “I don’t use that language in front of my children – I’d appreciate if you didn’t either.” Of course, my kids are 9,6 and 3 – I don’t think they’re on here. It’s like Richard Pryor – when he cursed, it was shocking and to make his points. Now every comic drops f-bombs and it’s not even shocking anymore.
I agree with you Paul – this is conversational, and I don’t care one way or the other really about the cursing, but I don’t see an arbitrary reason to just start dropping f-bombs.
[quote comment=”37328″]At the Saginaw Spirit game they used quite a few cheerleaders. Mostly they were in the aisles in the seating area however they had a separate group perform at centre ice during the second intermission. Only team i’ve seen do this so far.[/quote]
Who needs cheerleaders when you have Steagle Colbeagle the Eagle!
[quote comment=”37342″][quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
It would be extremely hard to make the first down lines. You would have to run cables throughout the whole field cause the first down is all over the field the entire game. Or you could move the cables after every play, but that would be simply illogical.
[quote comment=”37245″]Hockey does have some semblance of cheerleaders on the ice. The Flyers have their Ice Team that clears the ice build-ups during stoppages and shoot t-shirts out of cannons link, and I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.[/quote]
The Stars have the Ice Girls who do touch up work on the ice during timeouts and in between faceoffs.
Dallas Stars Ice Girls: link
Nice job with the Stars Ice Girls photo — I recently got to see them up close at a game in Dallas, and I have a new appreciation for the entire concept. Certainly, there are worse things you can do during TV timeouts at the game (not long enough for a trip to the restroom or concession stands) than watch the Ice Girls.
I recently attended a Capitals game in DC and noticed they have local peewee or mite players cleaning up the ice during TV timeouts. Can’t find a photo at the moment…
[quote comment=”37336″]I have noticed that link and the link jerseys look alarmingly alike. Mostly the shoulder stripes.[/quote]
This was touched on a couple months back… see link.
Long story short… it’s not a coincidence.
[quote comment=”37348″]If anything that sucks about the world, is people trying to make everying kiddy-friendly / G-rated.
If you think THAT is what really sucks about the world, then you must live in Neverland.[/quote]
And I do live in Neverland. Come on, loosen up the fucking language. This is the internet. This isn’t the library or the church. We don’t need the P.C. or Language Police on here.
My brother-in-law’s bachelor party was at a Flyers’ game – we had box seats for it. His brother and I – in an elevator carrying 3 beers each – ran into the woman who did the in-game, commercial-break contests for the night.
She was 1) link (and I joked that it was making me blind – and wished that she didn’t have to wear more pink). She laughed.
2) link
[quote comment=”37350″]To all you who don’t mind the profanity, for the most part I don’t mind it either – heck this is the internet where a google search on the mammal “beaver” can bring you to 43,627 porno sites. That being said, if I’m walking with my kids and I hear someone dropping f-bombs in the mall, I have been known to say on more than one occasion “I don’t use that language in front of my children – I’d appreciate if you didn’t either.” Of course, my kids are 9,6 and 3 – I don’t think they’re on here. It’s like Richard Pryor – when he cursed, it was shocking and to make his points. Now every comic drops f-bombs and it’s not even shocking anymore.
I agree with you Paul – this is conversational, and I don’t care one way or the other really about the cursing, but I don’t see an arbitrary reason to just start dropping f-bombs.[/quote]
My point exactly, Bill. Hypocrisy? Hardly. I hold this site and the readers of this site to a higher esteem than other forums. All are intelligent, and all speak rationally and calmly. Dropping two F-majors when they weren’t needed was my point. Funny how it turned into a personal attack.
That being said, “they’re going to go on a shooting spree” is a conclusion you’ve jumped to, not me. I never mentioned anything about a spree, and I never will.
Paul stated that “[a]n overly aggressive or combative tone is more problematic, whether it includes profanity or not. In other words, it’s not so much what you say — it’s how you say it”. One of your sentences was “[e]ither bring the blue back or change the name of the [expletive] team”. Was there any need for the swear? No.
It wasn’t a personal attack on you. It was a suggestion to choose your words a little more carefully. Rip me all you want… but if you find it acceptable that first-graders are using that kind of language, that’s your opinion, not mine. And that is the the definition of hypocrisy.
thats just awesome.
[quote comment=”37360″]Nice job with the Stars Ice Girls photo — I recently got to see them up close at a game in Dallas, and I have a new appreciation for the entire concept. Certainly, there are worse things you can do during TV timeouts at the game (not long enough for a trip to the restroom or concession stands) than watch the Ice Girls.
I recently attended a Capitals game in DC and noticed they have local peewee or mite players cleaning up the ice during TV timeouts. Can’t find a photo at the moment…[/quote]
I went to the Stars-Predators game at the AAC a few days ago and during the first lengthy break in play, the Ice Girls came skating out to do their work. I hadn’t been to an NHL game in a few years, so I didn’t know a concept such as ‘Ice Girls’ even existed. They were all pretty good skaters too. Since the Ice Girls only appear during breaks in the action and actually do work on the ice, I wouldn’t necessarily consider them cheerleaders though.
P.S. dibs on Ice Girl Katy, middle of the back row.
My former high school will be playing an outdoor hockey game in northern Minnesota later in the month, so per usual, I decided to waste valuable work hours by checking out the website for the event.
I tripped upon some pretty cool old-school uni pictures on the righthand side of link page (it’s a Flash app, so I couldn’t link directly to the pics… sorry!). Anyway, I highly recommend checking out the 1938 & 1939 pics (pictures 3-7 as you flip through).
[quote comment=”37366″][quote comment=”37350″]To all you who don’t mind the profanity, for the most part I don’t mind it either – heck this is the internet where a google search on the mammal “beaver” can bring you to 43,627 porno sites. That being said, if I’m walking with my kids and I hear someone dropping f-bombs in the mall, I have been known to say on more than one occasion “I don’t use that language in front of my children – I’d appreciate if you didn’t either.” Of course, my kids are 9,6 and 3 – I don’t think they’re on here. It’s like Richard Pryor – when he cursed, it was shocking and to make his points. Now every comic drops f-bombs and it’s not even shocking anymore.
I agree with you Paul – this is conversational, and I don’t care one way or the other really about the cursing, but I don’t see an arbitrary reason to just start dropping f-bombs.[/quote]
My point exactly, Bill. Hypocrisy? Hardly. I hold this site and the readers of this site to a higher esteem than other forums. All are intelligent, and all speak rationally and calmly. Dropping two F-majors when they weren’t needed was my point. Funny how it turned into a personal attack.
That being said, “they’re going to go on a shooting spree” is a conclusion you’ve jumped to, not me. I never mentioned anything about a spree, and I never will.
Paul stated that “[a]n overly aggressive or combative tone is more problematic, whether it includes profanity or not. In other words, it’s not so much what you say — it’s how you say it”. One of your sentences was “[e]ither bring the blue back or change the name of the [expletive] team”. Was there any need for the swear? No.
It wasn’t a personal attack on you. It was a suggestion to choose your words a little more carefully. Rip me all you want… but if you find it acceptable that first-graders are using that kind of language, that’s your opinion, not mine. And that is the the definition of hypocrisy.[/quote]
I’ve never heard them referred to as F Majors – as a former music student I would assume that an F minor would then be “freakin'” or “friggin'”…am I right?
Probably should’ve included that link again. Dallas Ice Girls: link
[quote comment=”37371″]My former high school will be playing an outdoor hockey game in northern Minnesota later in the month, so per usual, I decided to waste valuable work hours by checking out the website for the event.
I tripped upon some pretty cool old-school uni pictures on the righthand side of link page (it’s a Flash app, so I couldn’t link directly to the pics… sorry!). Anyway, I highly recommend checking out the 1938 & 1939 pics (pictures 3-7 as you flip through).[/quote]
I like the 1939 jerseys. They look like the old-time Bruins! :o)
[quote comment=”37335″]You can’t possibly be that naive, to believe that in this day and age a kid hasn’t heard and used all of the major swear words by the time they’re in first grade.
[/quote]
agreed, kids probably have heard all of the major swear words by that time of their lives. but that doesnt justify the rest of to just freely use profanity around them or others.
[quote comment=”37364″]Come on, loosen up the fucking language. This is the internet. This isn’t the library or the church. We don’t need the P.C. or Language Police on here.[/quote]
agreed. this is the internet. but it is also a site that you have chosen to be on. it is a site run by someone who requests some basic manners from you. nothing overwhelming. simply,
[quote comment=”37332″]Basically, keep it civil and intelligent, in equal measure.[/quote]
that shouldnt be too hard.
[quote comment=”37372″]
I’ve never heard them referred to as F Majors – as a former music student I would assume that an F minor would then be “freakin'” or “friggin'”…am I right?[/quote]
Possibly. We never defined the “F-minor” because our band leader never used anything but the “F-major” when he was angry. :o)
[quote comment=”37376″][quote comment=”37372″]
I’ve never heard them referred to as F Majors – as a former music student I would assume that an F minor would then be “freakin'” or “friggin'”…am I right?[/quote]
Possibly. We never defined the “F-minor” because our band leader never used anything but the “F-major” when he was angry. :o)[/quote]
Well, as my first high school band conductor said, “You used to sound like horseshit, but now you’re up to dogshit.”
I appreciate that they went to great lengths to put grass in the new stadium in Phoenix (Glendale) but the grass really looked like crap. I can’t imagine it will look much better for the next game.
I bet they’re regretting not laying down the FieldTurf.
[quote comment=”37352″][quote comment=”37328″]Who needs cheerleaders when you have Steagle Colbeagle the Eagle![/quote]
Damn straight!
First off, the USC cheerleaders (or song girls) have the best cheerleader outfits ever… followed closely by the link
Second, I mentioned yesterday that the Packers paint the actual field green durring winter so it doesn’t look so dead… link
[quote comment=”37380″]
Well, as my first high school band conductor said, “You used to sound like horseshit, but now you’re up to dogshit.”[/quote]
He sounds like a hockey coach I used to have. His favorite line was: “I’ll skate you until you realize that taking the easy way out on this team does not mean effing the dog”.
I never got what he meant until he put me through an hour of man-makers after I missed my check twice in one practice, resulting in a goal. Watching the team practice the PP while I was doing man-makers was tough. Moving my legs an hour later was worse.
Personally, I feel that women have no business being in any men’s sporting games. I find cheerleaders a distraction, annoying, and just flat-out irrelevant….
In the context of college sports, I think cheerleaders are alright, but I don’t care for the dance squads, which seem needlessly tarted-up.
I certainly have no objection to eye candy, but it seemed like the primary audience for the dancers were the high-rolling donors (routines performed at center court, nowhere near the student section). The concept of nubile co-ed entertainment as a value-added benefit of shilling out for the pricey seats at the arena just seems a wee bit lecherous. Could be I read too much into it, though.
For pro events the situation is reversed though. Cheerleaders seem pointless and since sports are now marketed as “entertainment” anyway, the dancers fit right in. Go figure.
[quote comment=”37383″][quote comment=”37380″]
Well, as my first high school band conductor said, “You used to sound like horseshit, but now you’re up to dogshit.”[/quote]
He sounds like a hockey coach I used to have. His favorite line was: “I’ll skate you until you realize that taking the easy way out on this team does not mean effing the dog”.
I never got what he meant until he put me through an hour of man-makers after I missed my check twice in one practice, resulting in a goal. Watching the team practice the PP while I was doing man-makers was tough. Moving my legs an hour later was worse.[/quote]
I hear you. I think my conductor was trying to make us laugh. (I saw his son at a jazz club here in NYC – he did remember me. What a FANTASTIC trumpet player. Blew my socks off. And we were laughing the entire time between sets about his dad.)
As you can tell from the name, John Ondrasik of Five for Fighting is a hockey fan – nice little article link – look at #7 for uni-related critique.
[quote comment=”37383″][quote comment=”37380″]
Well, as my first high school band conductor said, “You used to sound like horseshit, but now you’re up to dogshit.”[/quote]
He sounds like a hockey coach I used to have. His favorite line was: “I’ll skate you until you realize that taking the easy way out on this team does not mean effing the dog”.
I never got what he meant until he put me through an hour of man-makers after I missed my check twice in one practice, resulting in a goal. Watching the team practice the PP while I was doing man-makers was tough. Moving my legs an hour later was worse.[/quote]
Never had a coach spout off like that…but I did have a coach that got so upset with one kid for having one hand on his stick that he used an entire roll of tape and taped his hand to the stick. Was HILARIOUS to see.
[quote comment=”37387″]I think my conductor was trying to make us laugh. (I saw his son at a jazz club here in NYC – he did remember me. What a FANTASTIC trumpet player. Blew my socks off. And we were laughing the entire time between sets about his dad.)[/quote]
In my appreciation to find exceptional jazz music, do you happen to know if he has any albums out? Any info will be greatly appreciated, A.V.!
[quote comment=”37242″]The Wisconsin hockey duds look like a pawn job on the old-school Detroit Red Wings jerseys that the Wing-nuts resurrected a couple years back for the 75th anniversary of the NHL… Anyone agree?[/quote]
Yeah, I like ’em. Those and the GR Griffins ones as well. For some reason they work. Clever.
Vinny had some link at Miami
[quote comment=”37342″][quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
Actually, in this day and age of GPS and other gee wizz technology and in accordance with the NFL wanting to “get things right” on the field, it boggles my mind why the league hasn’t mandated that a system/newtork of sensors be embedded beneath the playing surface of every NFL stadium and have that tied in with sensors emplanted in the footballs, and before you start bleating and shrieking how that would ruin the balls in terms of being able to be thrown, please. Sensors these days are as small as a hair, if not smaller.
Anyway, the sensors on the field and in the balls would be tied in to a computer which would mark the exact progress of the balls progress, thus getting rid of the current bullshit system whereby the officials “eyeball” the spot where the ball will be put into play.
That needs to be the next big innovation in the NFL, at least if the league wants to be taken at all seriously. A system quite like this is alreayd in use at many of the major tennis tournaments around the world, including all four Grand Slam tournaments.
[quote comment=”37393″]Vinny had some link at Miami[/quote]
In that picture, Vinny looks a lot like link. Perhaps JP and Vinny were seperated at birth?
I am with you Teebz – no need to go off like that. Paul, great post – you had me at “we dropped the waistband on the shorts”
[quote comment=”37396″][quote comment=”37342″][quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
Actually, in this day and age of GPS and other gee wizz technology and in accordance with the NFL wanting to “get things right” on the field, it boggles my mind why the league hasn’t mandated that a system/newtork of sensors be embedded beneath the playing surface of every NFL stadium and have that tied in with sensors emplanted in the footballs, and before you start bleating and shrieking how that would ruin the balls in terms of being able to be thrown, please. Sensors these days are as small as a hair, if not smaller.
Anyway, the sensors on the field and in the balls would be tied in to a computer which would mark the exact progress of the balls progress, thus getting rid of the current bullshit system whereby the officials “eyeball” the spot where the ball will be put into play.
That needs to be the next big innovation in the NFL, at least if the league wants to be taken at all seriously. A system quite like this is alreayd in use at many of the major tennis tournaments around the world, including all four Grand Slam tournaments.[/quote]
in tennis the position of the body is meanginless. In football you’d have to still know when the body was considred down. Knowing where the ball is is pointless if you don’t have the right timing in terms of the body being officially tackled.
[quote comment=”37390″][quote comment=”37387″]I think my conductor was trying to make us laugh. (I saw his son at a jazz club here in NYC – he did remember me. What a FANTASTIC trumpet player. Blew my socks off. And we were laughing the entire time between sets about his dad.)[/quote]
In my appreciation to find exceptional jazz music, do you happen to know if he has any albums out? Any info will be greatly appreciated, A.V.![/quote]
Teebz, I don’t own any of the recordings (I must get off my butt), but here’s a list on which he appears (though he has none himself):
link
link
link
And Teebz, I’m blanking on where you live, but if you see “The Producers” on Broadway (not on a Monday or Friday), there is a good chance he’s on trumpet.
[quote comment=”37346″][quote comment=”37342″]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
I think the NFL was experimenting with technologies to create an “on-field” movable first-down marker (besides the guy holding the orange stick). It seems that lasers were the preference. I can’t find articles to show that at the moment.[/quote]
There is at least one photonics company looking for a way to shine a wide laser beam at field level. Problems: (1) the gold color we’ve become used to on TV is one of the more difficult and expensive colors to create with a laser. Red is the cheapest. Blue and green are also easy, but not real useful for this application. (2) Safety. There are very strict tolerances on the amount of laser light permitted to enter the eye. I’m sure most players lying on the ground after a tackle would not want a laser shining in their eye. Maybe LT’s visor would be a benefit in this case. (Had to work this back to a uniform somehow!)
[quote comment=”37381″]I appreciate that they went to great lengths to put grass in the new stadium in Phoenix (Glendale) but the grass really looked like crap. I can’t imagine it will look much better for the next game.
I bet they’re regretting not laying down the FieldTurf.[/quote]
They try to do too much with the field, new paint for every game new graphics at midfield, etc. They only way to keep a grass field in great shape is to keep everybody off it unless absolutely necessary. What they should have done was put the name of the city in each end zone and nothing at mid field, and started doing that more than a month ago, the field would be in far better shape next week.
link
link
link
link
Equal-opportunity eye-candy.
Banker B., as to the butt-showing ‘Song Girl’, when you’re a Barbie doll, it doesn’t matter if you show it all because you have no private parts. Seriously, she looks like she’s wearing a thong.
concealed78, I hope you meant what you said about women not belonging in men’s sports only in accordance to the cheerleaders/ pole-dancers and not to the trainers, announcers, reporters, fans, etc., otherwise, I am going to start calling you Keith Hernandez.
Burrill, I was really hoping for a good game from Michigan. Hang in there. Look at the Gophers and take comfort in your Wolverines.
Teebz, I am not one who is particularly bothered by profanity, but it does bemuse me when it’s randomly sprinkled in a post–I just don’t see the point. However, I do agree that it’s a bit hypocritical to come down hard on the swearing when there are so many pictures of scantily-clad women linked in today’s entry. I would rather my kid (if I had one) see swear words than get the idea that the sole purpose of women in men’s sports is to titillate (especially when they are high school or college age women). And, of course, I am being hypocritical myself by posting beefcake pics, so on and on it goes.
Jumping off the soapbox now.
[quote comment=”37396″]
That needs to be the next big innovation in the NFL, at least if the league wants to be taken at all seriously. A system quite like this is alreayd in use at many of the major tennis tournaments around the world, including all four Grand Slam tournaments.[/quote]
“[I]f the league wants to be taken at all seriously”????
We’re not talking about the USFL or the WLAF here . . .this is the NFL. The one league that certainly takes itself TOO seriously!!
That aside, I wholeheartedly agree that in the age of technology, relying on “eyeballing” the line of scrimmage is a bit antiquated.
[quote comment=”37402″][quote comment=”37396″][quote comment=”37342″][quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
Actually, in this day and age of GPS and other gee wizz technology and in accordance with the NFL wanting to “get things right” on the field, it boggles my mind why the league hasn’t mandated that a system/newtork of sensors be embedded beneath the playing surface of every NFL stadium and have that tied in with sensors emplanted in the footballs, and before you start bleating and shrieking how that would ruin the balls in terms of being able to be thrown, please. Sensors these days are as small as a hair, if not smaller.
Anyway, the sensors on the field and in the balls would be tied in to a computer which would mark the exact progress of the balls progress, thus getting rid of the current bullshit system whereby the officials “eyeball” the spot where the ball will be put into play.
That needs to be the next big innovation in the NFL, at least if the league wants to be taken at all seriously. A system quite like this is alreayd in use at many of the major tennis tournaments around the world, including all four Grand Slam tournaments.[/quote]
in tennis the position of the body is meanginless. In football you’d have to still know when the body was considred down. Knowing where the ball is is pointless if you don’t have the right timing in terms of the body being officially tackled.[/quote]
no but you could use similr technology to the cyclopse machine to make an audible noise when a players foot touches the line. You would be able tell whether somebody got their foot down, or if they stepped out of bounds on a run.
[quote comment=”37396″][quote comment=”37342″][quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
Actually, in this day and age of GPS and other gee wizz technology and in accordance with the NFL wanting to “get things right” on the field, it boggles my mind why the league hasn’t mandated that a system/newtork of sensors be embedded beneath the playing surface of every NFL stadium and have that tied in with sensors emplanted in the footballs, and before you start bleating and shrieking how that would ruin the balls in terms of being able to be thrown, please. Sensors these days are as small as a hair, if not smaller.
Anyway, the sensors on the field and in the balls would be tied in to a computer which would mark the exact progress of the balls progress, thus getting rid of the current bullshit system whereby the officials “eyeball” the spot where the ball will be put into play.
That needs to be the next big innovation in the NFL, at least if the league wants to be taken at all seriously. A system quite like this is alreayd in use at many of the major tennis tournaments around the world, including all four Grand Slam tournaments.[/quote]
So many problems with that idea. For one, the tennis system that is already in place judges where the ball hits the ground. As every football fan knows the ball is spotted where it is when the knee hits the ground not when the ball hits the ground. Second, you would never be able to judge forward progress with a system like this. A system that judges where the ball is when progress is stopped is near impossible to create if not completely impossible. For now and far, far into the future a system like this couldn’t and wouldn’t work. They did rectify major problems with coaches/officials challenges, which has it’s flaws, but fixes almost every major official mistake during play.
The league is already taken seriously, you can’t criticize the most successful league in America right now by saying they have to make this improvement in order to be taken seriously.
[quote comment=”37382″][quote comment=”37352″][quote comment=”37328″]Who needs cheerleaders when you have Steagle Colbeagle the Eagle![/quote]
Damn straight!
First off, the USC cheerleaders (or song girls) have the best cheerleader outfits ever… followed closely by the link
Second, I mentioned yesterday that the Packers paint the actual field green durring winter so it doesn’t look so dead… link[/quote]
I’m not sure how the fact the the Titans do paint the field is proof that the packers do. Of course all the teams with real grass do paint at times but your proof is not proving your point.
[quote comment=”37403″]
Teebz, I don’t own any of the recordings (I must get off my butt), but here’s a list on which he appears (though he has none himself):
link
link
link
And Teebz, I’m blanking on where you live, but if you see “The Producers” on Broadway (not on a Monday or Friday), there is a good chance he’s on trumpet.[/quote]
Sweet! I’ll look into these tonight! Thanks, Anthony! By the way, I’m in Canada.
[quote comment=”37412″][quote comment=”37396″][quote comment=”37342″][quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
Actually, in this day and age of GPS and other gee wizz technology and in accordance with the NFL wanting to “get things right” on the field, it boggles my mind why the league hasn’t mandated that a system/newtork of sensors be embedded beneath the playing surface of every NFL stadium and have that tied in with sensors emplanted in the footballs, and before you start bleating and shrieking how that would ruin the balls in terms of being able to be thrown, please. Sensors these days are as small as a hair, if not smaller.
Anyway, the sensors on the field and in the balls would be tied in to a computer which would mark the exact progress of the balls progress, thus getting rid of the current bullshit system whereby the officials “eyeball” the spot where the ball will be put into play.
That needs to be the next big innovation in the NFL, at least if the league wants to be taken at all seriously. A system quite like this is alreayd in use at many of the major tennis tournaments around the world, including all four Grand Slam tournaments.[/quote]
So many problems with that idea. For one, the tennis system that is already in place judges where the ball hits the ground. As every football fan knows the ball is spotted where it is when the knee hits the ground not when the ball hits the ground. Second, you would never be able to judge forward progress with a system like this. A system that judges where the ball is when progress is stopped is near impossible to create if not completely impossible. For now and far, far into the future a system like this couldn’t and wouldn’t work. They did rectify major problems with coaches/officials challenges, which has it’s flaws, but fixes almost every major official mistake during play.
The league is already taken seriously, you can’t criticize the most successful league in America right now by saying they have to make this improvement in order to be taken seriously.[/quote]
best way to fix the challenge system: keep it like it is except, if you are right on a challenge you don’t lost the challenge. Currently if you are right you keep you time out, but you only have 1 challenge left, why do you lose the ability to challenge if you were right?
[quote]best way to fix the challenge system: keep it like it is except, if you are right on a challenge you don’t lost the challenge. Currently if you are right you keep you time out, but you only have 1 challenge left, why do you lose the ability to challenge if you were right?[/quote]
They fixed that a few years ago. If you get your 2 alloted challenges right then you get another challenge. It makes sense to do it that way. You shouldn’t be able to keep your challenge just because you won one. If they were to do that then they should just change to the college football challenge rule where all questionable calls are replayed which results in far too many stoppages.
[quote comment=”37409″]
Teebz, I am not one who is particularly bothered by profanity, but it does bemuse me when it’s randomly sprinkled in a post–I just don’t see the point. However, I do agree that it’s a bit hypocritical to come down hard on the swearing when there are so many pictures of scantily-clad women linked in today’s entry. I would rather my kid (if I had one) see swear words than get the idea that the sole purpose of women in men’s sports is to titillate (especially when they are high school or college age women). And, of course, I am being hypocritical myself by posting beefcake pics, so on and on it goes.
Jumping off the soapbox now.[/quote]
“Randomly-sprinkled” and “aggressively-used” are two different things. I’m not against a properly-dropped swear as a poignant way to make a statement. In fact, it can be a great way to make the understated emphasized.
However, the use of the swearing in the speech that I was referring to did not warrant the outburst. Had the swears been omitted, the context of the entire diatribe wouldn’t have changed one iota. Therefore, they were unnecessary.
Paul has used swears before, and I’ve not said a peep. Why? His contextual use of them has been somewhat appropriate in his emphasis of what he’s trying to say.
As for the link between scantily-clad women and swears, there is none. One if the objectification of a beautiful individual; the other is the glamourization of words that are unacceptable in their usage. Both are somewhat wrong; however, the latter can and should be controlled by the user.
[quote comment=”37281″]There has been some black Bball uniform rumors at Texas A&M. Apparently they are new alternate unis that the team loves. Here are two pics.
link
link
Another team pulling black into their color scheme to update thei image or something. As an Aggie grad, I have a maroon and white painted room in my house. Where did the black come from?[/quote]
I could care less about a team have black alternate uniforms, I just wish that TEXAS A&M went across the chest of the jersey and not the players navel. I mean, cmon, look how low it is. The numbers are almost tucked into their shorts!
[quote comment=”37264″]NHL cheerleaders are a bad idea for two reasons: 1) cheerleading requires some pretty good skill and ability, and adding skates to cheerleaders opens the door to a world of injuries; and 2) figure skaters would be insulted to be called “cheerleaders”. Pom poms and skates don’t go together when doing a dance routine on the ice.
Even though link, I don’t think you’d find too many female figure skaters lining up for this “opportunity”.
However, I do have to say that I watch figure skating for link. link![/quote]
Teebz, how can you mention truly hot ice skaters and not mention Tanith Belbin (ok, she’s an ice dancer actually, let’s not split hairs).
Wow: link
Ditto: link
Now if Maxim would just book her….
[quote comment=”37409″]link
link
link
link
Equal-opportunity eye-candy.
Banker B., as to the butt-showing ‘Song Girl’, when you’re a Barbie doll, it doesn’t matter if you show it all because you have no private parts. Seriously, she looks like she’s wearing a thong.
concealed78, I hope you meant what you said about women not belonging in men’s sports only in accordance to the cheerleaders/ pole-dancers and not to the trainers, announcers, reporters, fans, etc., otherwise, I am going to start calling you Keith Hernandez.
Burrill, I was really hoping for a good game from Michigan. Hang in there. Look at the Gophers and take comfort in your Wolverines.
Teebz, I am not one who is particularly bothered by profanity, but it does bemuse me when it’s randomly sprinkled in a post–I just don’t see the point. However, I do agree that it’s a bit hypocritical to come down hard on the swearing when there are so many pictures of scantily-clad women linked in today’s entry. I would rather my kid (if I had one) see swear words than get the idea that the sole purpose of women in men’s sports is to titillate (especially when they are high school or college age women). And, of course, I am being hypocritical myself by posting beefcake pics, so on and on it goes.
Jumping off the soapbox now.[/quote]
Well, Minna – I thought we weren’t going to see you today!! By the way, your Barbie Doll comment – there was a study that if a woman was proportioned exactly as Barbie is, she’d be almost unable to walk and would have severe medical issues.
[quote comment=”37422″][quote]best way to fix the challenge system: keep it like it is except, if you are right on a challenge you don’t lost the challenge. Currently if you are right you keep you time out, but you only have 1 challenge left, why do you lose the ability to challenge if you were right?[/quote]
They fixed that a few years ago. If you get your 2 alloted challenges right then you get another challenge. It makes sense to do it that way. You shouldn’t be able to keep your challenge just because you won one. If they were to do that then they should just change to the college football challenge rule where all questionable calls are replayed which results in far too many stoppages.[/quote]
What they need to do is stop paying “uniform police” and follow my instructions for a better replay system…
1)Pay an extra official to sit in a litte room upstairs
2) Put a bell in the room.
3) Keep the system they use now, or go to the college system.
4) When a review is needed, the on field official presses a button that will trigger the bell in the little room.
5) the man in the little room, looks at several angles of the play and reports the findings to the on field official.
No fuss, no muss.
Seriously why do we need the hooded camera? That is the biggest waste of time. Why does the official need to run all the way across the field to look into it.
The NHL does it this way and it works better.
[quote comment=”37396″][quote comment=”37342″][quote comment=”37327″]The turf issue reminded me of an article a friend of mine and I talked about recently. link is a link, but for those who don’t want to read it, this company has found a way to weave fiber-optic cables into sport turf. The cables would then allow for different messages to be displayed during “down time” in the course of the game. The application in this debate would be the flipping of a switch to change the end zones from Boise State and Oklahoma to Florida and Ohio State. Oh the marketing (logo creep) opportunities! Interesting article if you have the time to read it.[/quote]
If they could use that technology for something positive, like lighting up where the first down yard line would be, that would be a good thing…but for advertising? I don’t want to see that…[/quote]
Actually, in this day and age of GPS and other gee wizz technology and in accordance with the NFL wanting to “get things right” on the field, it boggles my mind why the league hasn’t mandated that a system/newtork of sensors be embedded beneath the playing surface of every NFL stadium and have that tied in with sensors emplanted in the footballs, and before you start bleating and shrieking how that would ruin the balls in terms of being able to be thrown, please. Sensors these days are as small as a hair, if not smaller.
Anyway, the sensors on the field and in the balls would be tied in to a computer which would mark the exact progress of the balls progress, thus getting rid of the current bullshit system whereby the officials “eyeball” the spot where the ball will be put into play.
That needs to be the next big innovation in the NFL, at least if the league wants to be taken at all seriously. A system quite like this is alreayd in use at many of the major tennis tournaments around the world, including all four Grand Slam tournaments.[/quote]
FIFA has been kicking around this idea (bad pun) for awhile. I thought it might have been used sparingly as a trial in the last world cup (not sure). It looks like they really want it to be link.
While looking for pictures of Tanith, I found this set of her being sworn in as a U.S. citizen (she was born in Canada) just before the Winter Olympics. Not really related to anything, but kinda interesting.
link
[quote comment=”37426″]
“Randomly-sprinkled” and “aggressively-used” are two different things. I’m not against a properly-dropped swear as a poignant way to make a statement. In fact, it can be a great way to make the understated emphasized.
However, the use of the swearing in the speech that I was referring to did not warrant the outburst. Had the swears been omitted, the context of the entire diatribe wouldn’t have changed one iota. Therefore, they were unnecessary.
Paul has used swears before, and I’ve not said a peep. Why? His contextual use of them has been somewhat appropriate in his emphasis of what he’s trying to say.
As for the link between scantily-clad women and swears, there is none. One if the objectification of a beautiful individual; the other is the glamourization of words that are unacceptable in their usage. Both are somewhat wrong; however, the latter can and should be controlled by the user.[/quote]
I get your point, Teebz, about what each person can control. I would agree that a lot of swearing is not necessary. I just happen to be more bothered by the multiple postings of scantily-clad women and the cavalier attitude towards the women in the pictures. I know they are not linked, but there happened to be examples of both in today’s entry.
And to be completely hypocritical, here is something calld the link. I have no idea what the team is, but I like the uniform.
I also like the Texas A&M all-blacks, but you guys knew that already.
Did anyone notice the small sticker Chad Henne was wearing in the front on his helmet? It looked to be transparent but with some kind of design or star on it????
[quote comment=”37430″]
Teebz, how can you mention truly hot ice skaters and not mention Tanith Belbin (ok, she’s an ice dancer actually, let’s not split hairs).
Wow: link
Ditto: link
Now if Maxim would just book her….[/quote]
I’m Canadian. And she used to be a Canadian. She now skates for the US team. While I appreciate the number of good-looking women in the US, we develop some pretty swell gals here in The Great White North. :o)
She’s the equivalent of Brett Hull or Adam Deadmarsh as far as I am concerned. Or Benedict Arnold to those with historical views. :o)
[quote comment=”37433″]
Well, Minna – I thought we weren’t going to see you today!! By the way, your Barbie Doll comment – there was a study that if a woman was proportioned exactly as Barbie is, she’d be almost unable to walk and would have severe medical issues.[/quote]
Banker B., I had to wade through all the other posts first. The real-life Barbie would topple over. Plus, she couldn’t have children, I’m sure. She’s an anatomical nightmare.
What I was going to say about the Song Girl is that if you’re already dressed like a skank, might as well go full monty.
As for the baby cheerleading outfits, might as well start them young. (Said with tongue firmly in cheek).
[quote comment=”37422″][quote]best way to fix the challenge system: keep it like it is except, if you are right on a challenge you don’t lost the challenge. Currently if you are right you keep you time out, but you only have 1 challenge left, why do you lose the ability to challenge if you were right?[/quote]
They fixed that a few years ago. If you get your 2 alloted challenges right then you get another challenge. It makes sense to do it that way. You shouldn’t be able to keep your challenge just because you won one. If they were to do that then they should just change to the college football challenge rule where all questionable calls are replayed which results in far too many stoppages.[/quote]
if you are right you should get to keep challenging, you are just making them get the game right, if you are wrong lose one of your 2 challenges, wrong again, no more challenges. As long as you are right you shouldn’t get punished. I’ve never heard anything about the if you are right both times you get another rule. This wouldn’t make more stoppages because if they are wrong they lose the challenge.
[quote comment=”37434″][quote comment=”37422″][quote]best way to fix the challenge system: keep it like it is except, if you are right on a challenge you don’t lost the challenge. Currently if you are right you keep you time out, but you only have 1 challenge left, why do you lose the ability to challenge if you were right?[/quote]
They fixed that a few years ago. If you get your 2 alloted challenges right then you get another challenge. It makes sense to do it that way. You shouldn’t be able to keep your challenge just because you won one. If they were to do that then they should just change to the college football challenge rule where all questionable calls are replayed which results in far too many stoppages.[/quote]
What they need to do is stop paying “uniform police” and follow my instructions for a better replay system…
1)Pay an extra official to sit in a litte room upstairs
2) Put a bell in the room.
3) Keep the system they use now, or go to the college system.
4) When a review is needed, the on field official presses a button that will trigger the bell in the little room.
5) the man in the little room, looks at several angles of the play and reports the findings to the on field official.
No fuss, no muss.
Seriously why do we need the hooded camera? That is the biggest waste of time. Why does the official need to run all the way across the field to look into it.
The NHL does it this way and it works better.[/quote]
In the NHL, goals are also reviewed in the NHL “War Room” in Toronto. So while a goal is under review in Dallas, it’s possible that the ref and/or arena replay officals may be on the phone with a room full of canucks in Toronto. I’ve always been fascinated by that.
There’s a good video about the process found link. There’s a great job to have!
OK, that’s it: No more discussion of profanity, hypocrisy, or whether women belong at the stadium.
Remember that line, “When you get to the end zone, act like you’ve been there before”? Let’s apply that same sort of thinking to the word “fuck” and a woman’s bare ass. Noteworthy? Maybe. Worth a huge, emabarrassing stink that sends the day’s discussion off its rails? No.
[quote comment=”37443″][quote comment=”37433″]
As for the baby cheerleading outfits, might as well start them young. (Said with tongue firmly in cheek).[/quote]
You people have a problem with my link?!?!
;-)
[quote comment=”37448″][quote comment=”37443″][quote comment=”37433″]
As for the baby cheerleading outfits, might as well start them young. (Said with tongue firmly in cheek).[/quote]
You people have a problem with my link?!?!
;-)[/quote]
Natron, that is really cute. I like how the white part is made to look like a baseball (if I am not mistaken), and that she is rooting for the Twins, the best team in baseball. That is definitely better looking than the new Twins’ BP jerseys that manage to be both boring and ugly at the same time. Quite the sartorial feat.
[quote comment=”37443″][quote comment=”37433″]
Well, Minna – I thought we weren’t going to see you today!! By the way, your Barbie Doll comment – there was a study that if a woman was proportioned exactly as Barbie is, she’d be almost unable to walk and would have severe medical issues.[/quote]
Banker B., I had to wade through all the other posts first. The real-life Barbie would topple over. Plus, she couldn’t have children, I’m sure. She’s an anatomical nightmare.
What I was going to say about the Song Girl is that if you’re already dressed like a skank, might as well go full monty.
As for the baby cheerleading outfits, might as well start them young. (Said with tongue firmly in cheek).[/quote]
My wife’s cousin is a cheerleading coach in NC and she gave us a little replica cheerleader outfit like what you see in the pics for the little ones. I have no problem with that outfit at all – it has a little turtleneck and long sleeves and my daughter is only 3 – she thinks it makes her a ballerina because it has a little skirt she can twirl in. My issue is when I see actual youth cheerleading teams like my niece (who is 11) cheers for wearing the midriff baring monstrocities, that I don’t approve of – and the make-up they make these kids wear is like a bunch of little JonBenet Ramseys out there. 3 year old in a little cherrleader outfit with a turtleneck – cute. 11 year old in a two piece outfit with her belly button exposed and a skirt that barely covers the cheer shorts underneath – disturbing on many different levels.
[quote comment=”37448″][quote comment=”37443″][quote comment=”37433″]
As for the baby cheerleading outfits, might as well start them young. (Said with tongue firmly in cheek).[/quote]
You people have a problem with my link?!?!
;-)[/quote]
If I didn’t have one of my own, I might classify her as the cutest kid I’ve seen today!
Minna, I know tongue was planted in cheek in regards to the babies! But you have to admit, my other point is pretty valid.
[quote comment=”37451″][quote comment=”37443″][quote comment=”37433″]
Well, Minna – I thought we weren’t going to see you today!! By the way, your Barbie Doll comment – there was a study that if a woman was proportioned exactly as Barbie is, she’d be almost unable to walk and would have severe medical issues.[/quote]
Banker B., I had to wade through all the other posts first. The real-life Barbie would topple over. Plus, she couldn’t have children, I’m sure. She’s an anatomical nightmare.
What I was going to say about the Song Girl is that if you’re already dressed like a skank, might as well go full monty.
As for the baby cheerleading outfits, might as well start them young. (Said with tongue firmly in cheek).[/quote]
My wife’s cousin is a cheerleading coach in NC and she gave us a little replica cheerleader outfit like what you see in the pics for the little ones. I have no problem with that outfit at all – it has a little turtleneck and long sleeves and my daughter is only 3 – she thinks it makes her a ballerina because it has a little skirt she can twirl in. My issue is when I see actual youth cheerleading teams like my niece (who is 11) cheers for wearing the midriff baring monstrocities, that I don’t approve of – and the make-up they make these kids wear is like a bunch of little JonBenet Ramseys out there. 3 year old in a little cherrleader outfit with a turtleneck – cute. 11 year old in a two piece outfit with her belly button exposed and a skirt that barely covers the cheer shorts underneath – disturbing on many different levels.[/quote]
Well stated, Bill.
link.
link.
Banker B., I agree. It’s context that bothers.
I want to say to Matt R. that you are lucky to be working the Rose Bowl. That is a nice jacket, but you were smart to ditch the hat. I think I would forgo the pay and keep the jacket–I could always so a patch over the swoosh.
Don’t listen to Miguel, either. You are much better-looking than Jared from the Subway commercials.
[quote comment=”37452″][quote comment=”37448″][quote comment=”37443″][quote comment=”37433″]
As for the baby cheerleading outfits, might as well start them young. (Said with tongue firmly in cheek).[/quote]
You people have a problem with my link?!?!
;-)[/quote]
If I didn’t have one of my own, I might classify her as the cutest kid I’ve seen today![/quote]
I’ve been looking for an excuse to post that for about a year!
I stand corrected, A&M actualy wore the black unis against Grambling last week. I found one picture that is not very good.
link
According to a source of mine (I know how that sounds) Grambling brought their silver uniforms, and we were worried that they were too similar to our whites. The maroon uniforms were not clean, so they busted out the black ones.
A&M did win the game 101-27 (yes that is correct). So I guess if they keep winning like that everyone will love them.
[quote comment=”37413″]I’m not sure how the fact the the Titans do paint the field is proof that the packers do. Of course all the teams with real grass do paint at times but your proof is not proving your point.[/quote]
Damn, so much angst… what gives? Hell, you’re not even the poster that I was replying to today
I’ll try to explain this as best as possible… first, this is what my post today was replying to (from yesterday)…
#55 and as far as any team, including the Packers, painting the whole field green… any source for that? fields in the colder parts of the country with real grass always look plenty browned over enough in the winter to me.
So, I found an article (source) about the practice… the Packers I originally mentioned because I’m a diehard Packer fan, and durring telecasts they’ve mentioned that the Lambeau crew paints the field so it doesn’t look so dead… I couldn’t find a source that officially stated that the Packers paint the field, so I posted the Titans article, because that’s what the original question wanted… basic proof
And do you think the University of Phoenix is a little upset today? They pay all of this money for naming rights to the stadium in Glendale, and FOX kept calling it “Cardinals Stadium.†Think the NCAA had a hand in that decision? I do.
This is not unprecedented. During the past World Cup, FIFA did not let the stadia be referred by their corporate names “link“. Thus “AOL Arena” in Hamburg became “FIFA World Cup Stadium Hamburg”, and so on all over Germany. Don’t know if the NCAA or the BCS have the same deal.
Natron, this is in response to post #149. I was tired of the italics, so I started anew.
You don’t need an excuse to post when you have such a doll for a daughter.
BCrisp, too bad the pic isn’t that good, but I like both teams’ unis.
I hope next year, the Vikings tone down the nauseating stripes on their unis. Maybe they wanted to remind everyone of the Love Boat debacle. I also hope they get a new coach. That would make the team look better in an instant.
Interesting photo gallery on “Pistol” Pete Maravich featured on SI.com right now.
I thought I would point out some of the interesting clothes like Pistol’s socks: link at LSU and link with the New Orleans Jazz against the Phoenix Suns.
However, perhaps the most interesting socks can be seen link worn by archrival Tulane (also check out the belts on TU’s shorts).
Also, interesting link worn by Maravich.
[quote comment=”37433″][quote comment=”37409″]link
link
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link
Equal-opportunity eye-candy.
Banker B., as to the butt-showing ‘Song Girl’, when you’re a Barbie doll, it doesn’t matter if you show it all because you have no private parts. Seriously, she looks like she’s wearing a thong.
concealed78, I hope you meant what you said about women not belonging in men’s sports only in accordance to the cheerleaders/ pole-dancers and not to the trainers, announcers, reporters, fans, etc., otherwise, I am going to start calling you Keith Hernandez.
Burrill, I was really hoping for a good game from Michigan. Hang in there. Look at the Gophers and take comfort in your Wolverines.
Teebz, I am not one who is particularly bothered by profanity, but it does bemuse me when it’s randomly sprinkled in a post–I just don’t see the point. However, I do agree that it’s a bit hypocritical to come down hard on the swearing when there are so many pictures of scantily-clad women linked in today’s entry. I would rather my kid (if I had one) see swear words than get the idea that the sole purpose of women in men’s sports is to titillate (especially when they are high school or college age women). And, of course, I am being hypocritical myself by posting beefcake pics, so on and on it goes.
Jumping off the soapbox now.[/quote]
Well, Minna – I thought we weren’t going to see you today!! By the way, your Barbie Doll comment – there was a study that if a woman was proportioned exactly as Barbie is, she’d be almost unable to walk and would have severe medical issues.[/quote]
If there was a woman proportioned like barbie, she wouldn’t need to be able to walk.
Hrm. Between link and link, the Mets went from emphasizing orange to emphasizing black. This probably means link is going to stay the same. Ugh. The color choices & contrast panels are a shame; I kind of like the single button style.
I know this is a little late, but it just dawned on me … Sir Jock Stirrup would make a great UniWatch mascot, just like Brownie, that Met Ball Head Dude and etc. UniWatch could even have a cartoony version.
Just thought.
By the way, at the risk of commiting sports bigomy, the Dolphins’ Cheerleader uniforms are the bestest ever.
[quote comment=”37240″]Wow, I kinda liked the Rose Bowl hats. Usually from “that supplier” I expect something hideously garish, and this one seemed (at least on TV) to be nicely understated.[/quote]
Thanks, ML, for submitting a first post that doesn’t brag about being the first post. Well done.
Hey Paul, what’s with the tennis articles in your archive of Uni Watch articles at ESPN.com. Not a problem, just wondering.
Anyone notice that Warrick Dunn lost the logo on the left side of his helmet the other day against the Eagles? He looked a bit like a Steeler. Sadly, I have no photographic evidence.
[quote comment=”37472″]By the way, at the risk of commiting sports bigomy, the Dolphins’ Cheerleader uniforms are the bestest ever.[/quote]
Agreed – lovely. Along those lines, I also love the uniforms the UCLA cheerleaders/dance team wears for basketball games — the long jersey-dresses, with long socks with stripes. Yummy.
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Teebz, I don’t own any of the recordings (I must get off my butt), but here’s a list on which he appears (though he has none himself):
link
link
link
And Teebz, I’m blanking on where you live, but if you see “The Producers” on Broadway (not on a Monday or Friday), there is a good chance he’s on trumpet.[/quote]
Sweet! I’ll look into these tonight! Thanks, Anthony! By the way, I’m in Canada.[/quote]
What part?
[quote comment=”37477″]Hey Paul, what’s with the tennis articles in your archive of Uni Watch articles at ESPN.com. Not a problem, just wondering.[/quote]
Yeah, someone else e-mailed me about that today — they’re “working on it.”
Hrm according to majestic. Apparently Scott Player has signed with every single MLB team for spring training.
Also, kind of unrelated, but this is Javon Walker’s shirt post shooting:
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[quote comment=”37296″][quote comment=”37245″]I seem to recall the Carolina Hurricanes had more traditional cheerleaders during their Stanley Cup run although I can’t confirm it.[/quote]
I wouldn’t doubt it. Their AHL team has had a dance team for a few games this year.
What’s up with the BP jerseys? It looks like the only difference with the Blue Jays and Yankees home and away ones is white/grey accents.
And what’s up with home and away BP jerseys? Unecessary.[/quote]
At least in the Red Sox case, they wear red warmup jackets at home (with RED SOX on them)and blue (with BOSTON) on them on the road. Thus, the follow-through on the theme with the new BP jerseys. By the way, manager Terry Francona wears a red sweatshirt-like thing (known in Red Sox Nation as the Francona Fleece) at home and a blue one on the road. He’d look a thousand percent better if he wore a uni top instead.
[quote comment=”37286″]“Coming tomorrow: a thorough examination of the waitress uniforms at Hooters.”
Paul, I assume you are just kidding here, but now that you tempted us, I will never read this blog again if I dont see at leat one Hooter picture tomorrow.
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I think the world will go on… come on, Paul, don’t let this blog degenerate into that.
whoops…
All this talk of accurate-to-the-millimeter football spotting systems makes me think of the technologically-advanced basketball jersey. I feel the same about both: there can be too much technology in sports. I’m not sure football would actually be better with that sort of system.
Also, thanks to the CBC, right now I’m watching the jersey retirement ceremony of Yzerman’s #19 (it was amazing to watch Konstantinov walk into the arena), and the Wings are wearing four different jerseys for warmups to represent the teams for which Stevie Y played. I’m sure someone will post pictures when they’re up.
Same thing with the 1996 Final Four, where the Continental Arena (shortly after the naming rights started) was referred to as The Meadowlands.
I think University of Phoenix Stadium is the most fun stadium name since the National Car Rental Center.
[quote comment=”37295″][quote comment=”37268″]is there anyone here “in the know” about how the field graphics transition will take place for the national title game?
new sod and paint?
i would assume that the field for the national title game would get preferential treatment over the fiesta bowl.
like usual this game featured a ton of field paint for the endzones, as well as the oversized midfield graphic. it looks bush league to paint over any existing graphics to create a blank canvas. (see psu/tenn. game midfield graphic and lincoln financial field after the army/navy game)
is there enough time to “wash out” all that paint?[/quote]
One of the FOX commentators actually made a good point that they really don’t need to do much of a decoration change between last night’s Boise St./Oklahoma game and the Florida/Ohio St. game – very similar color schemes for the pairs of schools. And Tostitos sponsors both games.
And do you think the University of Phoenix is a little upset today? They pay all of this money for naming rights to the stadium in Glendale, and FOX kept calling it “Cardinals Stadium.” Think the NCAA had a hand in that decision? I do.[/quote]
Steve Yzerman’s retired number banner has a captains C, and his name is in VAL.
Awesome!
[quote comment=”37312″]Ok, let’s see…
Cheerleaders: yes please
LA Angels: Kudos for being the only team to not fill the BP jersey side panels with one or two accent colors.
Song Girls: Anybody with HD and a DVR care to take a closer look?[/quote]
I’m not at all surprised that the Angels dropped the blue side panels. Arte Moreno (owner) has always wanted red to be the only color for the Angels. I’m amazed he hasn’t gotten around to changing the BP hats which are really the only navy remaining remaining on the uniform
[quote comment=”37487″] By the way, manager Terry Francona wears a red sweatshirt-like thing (known in Red Sox Nation as the Francona Fleece) at home and a blue one on the road. He’d look a thousand percent better if he wore a uni top instead.[/quote]
He had a stroke or something to that extent a few years back. The medication he has to take because of it leaves him feeling cold all the time, so he wears the fleece.
They are pretty warm..I bought one at Fenway before a cold as hell game in mid-April.
[quote comment=”37490″]
Also, thanks to the CBC, right now I’m watching the jersey retirement ceremony of Yzerman’s #19 (it was amazing to watch Konstantinov walk into the arena), and the Wings are wearing four different jerseys for warmups to represent the teams for which Stevie Y played. I’m sure someone will post pictures when they’re up.[/quote]
Thanks to NHL Center Ice for starting their coverage at 6:30. Yes, all the Red Wings were wearing Yzerman jerseys, but only a few were Red Wings. The other three teams represented were Team Canada, Campbell Conference All-Stars, and the Peterborough Petes.
Double kudos to Nick Lidstrom, who climbed up the dais and stood at the podium in full game gear.
Since on the bopic of cheerleaders, what is with the softball size pom pom’s that are circulating around these days? I notice that Oregon State and UCLA cheerleaders have them. Any insight into this would be appreciated
Wake’s Uniforms are looking sharp tonight in the Orange Bowl
[quote comment=”37349″]More pics of the USC song girl.
NSFWish
link
link[/quote]
While we are on the topic of link, I am stunned (well, not really, I understand if you were distracted) that no one noticed that the USC cheerleaders had what appeared to be a Rose Bowl specific decal added on the front (look in the bottom right of the pic, not the middle…..seriously).
[quote comment=”37510″]Wake’s Uniforms are looking sharp tonight in the Orange Bowl[/quote]
They looked good in the Sun Bowl on link too.
Different Pants, I know, but me thinks the jersey is mighty similar. No?
[quote comment=”37511″]
While we are on the topic of link, I am stunned (well, not really, I understand if you were distracted) that no one noticed that the USC cheerleaders had what appeared to be a Rose Bowl specific decal added on the front (look in the bottom right of the pic, not the middle…..seriously).[/quote]
Scroll down to the 1996 squad pic to see that they have worn those link
Banker: Regarding your question about the young woman who chose to wear a thong to a job that involves short skirts and spinning, I think every woman has her own definition of respect.
Along those lines, a grateful shout-out to Uni Watch Hockey Wing members Banker Bill and Teebz for posts 72 and 73. I was once told that the Hockey Wing had an entire section devoted to women. Now I know that it is true!
Finally, a question: I have never been to an NFL game, but I attend a lot of Penn State games. Do NFL “cheerleaders” actually lead the crowd in cheers, or are they more like a dance team?
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While we are on the topic of link, I am stunned (well, not really, I understand if you were distracted) that no one noticed that the USC cheerleaders had what appeared to be a Rose Bowl specific decal added on the front (look in the bottom right of the pic, not the middle…..seriously).[/quote]
Scroll down to the 1996 squad pic to see that they have worn those link[/quote]
It makes sense to have special uniform just for that huge game, and it looks pretty darn good too
[quote comment=”37446″]In the NHL, goals are also reviewed in the NHL “War Room” in Toronto. So while a goal is under review in Dallas, it’s possible that the ref and/or arena replay officals may be on the phone with a room full of canucks in Toronto. I’ve always been fascinated by that.
There’s a good video about the process found link. There’s a great job to have![/quote]
Excellant link.
I am glad that the NHL went ahead and did the smart thing by creating a direct link right to the top to settle goal disputes. Brings new meaning to “taking it to the top”
[quote comment=”37521″][quote comment=”37517″][quote comment=”37511″]
While we are on the topic of link, I am stunned (well, not really, I understand if you were distracted) that no one noticed that the USC cheerleaders had what appeared to be a Rose Bowl specific decal added on the front (look in the bottom right of the pic, not the middle…..seriously).[/quote]
Scroll down to the 1996 squad pic to see that they have worn those link[/quote]
It makes sense to have special uniform just for that huge game, and it looks pretty darn good too[/quote]
I believe they wore them last year too. I was just wondering, how do they decide which team is the “home” team in the BCS games?
[quote comment=”37517″][quote comment=”37511″]
While we are on the topic of link, I am stunned (well, not really, I understand if you were distracted) that no one noticed that the USC cheerleaders had what appeared to be a Rose Bowl specific decal added on the front (look in the bottom right of the pic, not the middle…..seriously).[/quote]
Scroll down to the 1996 squad pic to see that they have worn those link[/quote]
Was anyone else trying to figure out which Song Girl went with the Ass?
[quote comment=”37519″]Finally, a question: I have never been to an NFL game, but I attend a lot of Penn State games. Do NFL “cheerleaders” actually lead the crowd in cheers, or are they more like a dance team?[/quote]
Dance team. At least that’s always been my impression. (Is it relevant that my local NFL team is one of the few without cheerleaders?)
That’s the same girl as in the video. She’s got the normal cheer underwear things on, she’s just got a little bit of a wedgie. The mind tends to see what it wants to see, regardless of what’s actually there. I know I, for one, was hoping for a little thong-based action, but am not disappointed with the results.
[quote comment=”37441″]Did anyone notice the small sticker Chad Henne was wearing in the front on his helmet? It looked to be transparent but with some kind of design or star on it????[/quote]
I noticed it – that is a small clear sticker covering an inflator for a forehead pad on Henne’s Riddell Revolution helmet. The inflator appears to be painted yellow (okay, “maize”) to match the helmet.
Back when Riddell first brought out their inflated “Micro-Fit” helmets (circa 1968/1970) they had pads for the forehead area that had to be inflated (with air or possibly anti-freeze back then). Riddell later replaced the inflated pads with first pre-inflated pads and then, by the early 1980s, a solid foam pad. However, Riddell still offers an inflated pad for people with concussion problems or hard-to-fit heads. It’s easier to see these on teams without stripes on the helmet – like Cincinnati, Tampa Bay or Seattle in the NFL. Very few players use this extra inflated pad.
The new link are very similar to this years link.
While I was looking for more information on the new BPs I came across a Majestic mini-site dedicated to link and its technology.