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It’s A Rup-a-licous Day at Uni Watch

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By Phil Hecken, with Comrade Robert Marshall

You have been asking about this one for a while, and now it’s here. Time to hear from Comrade Robert Marshall who, amongst all his other Revolutionary Stirrup Party duties, is here to bring us the results from the “Design A Stirrup” contest. To refresh, the contest began about a month and a half ago, and it’s been worth the wait. I’ll now turn the remainder of this post over to Comrade Marshall:

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greetings uniwatchers,

I have been waiting to hear from Twin City Knitting, and I can now report that the latest order will be shipped to me Monday, which means the Revolutionary Stirrup Party will have some fresh offering next week. This also means that it is time to announce the winner of the design a stirrup contest, so if you don’t like stirrups, whimsical twists, or conceptual art, it’s time to get your scroll on.

The idea of this “contest” was for people to come up with an idea, or theme to conceptualize a stirrup design around, and I was not disappointed with the submissions. Would these designs be perfect for teams to wear on the ball field? heck no, but that wasn’t the point, the point was to have some fun, and see how creative the community could be. As I said, I thought there were some real fun entries, and there will be multiple winners.

The contest came on the heels of the New York Americans 4th of July stirrups, but I still got a number of suggestions for similar designs. Alex Giobbi’s illustration looked to me like something out of schoolhouse rock, no? so i’ll unpack my adjectives, and say I think that his submission is saturated with a boyhood zest for grandiosity.

From there we had a number of very clever entries that would be impossible for TCK to manufacture, but cracked me up none the less. This tag team Mothervilker~Ricko job for the opening of backyard Wiffle ball season, would go great with the wooden Wiffle~sized bats i am in the process of making. Or how about this “Bootheel” Ben Traxel submission that shows the broken and strained chains of the teams of the Big 12.

Scott Gurrola submitted these. Of note: Ice Cream Month shows the proportion of Neapolitan he would prefer in the carton, the red white and blue on the Golf Month stirrup represents tee markers, and the Leap Year has one of the four stripes longer then the others. Then there is my personal favourite, and best of his group, Picnic Month which is representative of ants at a picnic with black ant slashes on the table cloth, HA!

Another gent with multiple submissions was Phillip Wilson, all of whose designs i think are self explanatory. In regards to Phillip’s designs, at one time i was considering making phillip a dual winner, with a person whose deigns i lost somehow(sorry). The designs were similar to this, and the idea was a Winter Solstice concept. I was going to pare it with Phillip’s tequila sunrise for the Summer Solstice, and boom, one warm colour and one cool colour stripey winner combo. Then the Rays went slump busting, and I was reminded of the Rasros(sic) actual sunrise stirrups(both hints on this months orders), so I had to scrap that idea. and yes Dan Bart, i am aware you sent a sunrise in too, but it wasn’t all warm for the solstice idea. [Whomever sent in that Winter Solstice idea, get in touch with me please, I don’t know how I misplaced it.]

James Huening choose to create a Packer~Bear boarder war stirrup, but my apologies to the undecided NFL fans of Beloit, this isn’t the choice. Likewise Kenny Okker’s stirrup might be too specific to University of Oregon Daily Emerald staffers who happen to be uni obsessed, but his has 5 green stripes for the number of days a week it is published on a symbolically pure white background. Pretty clever, and i like the budget image for some reason, but like James, *family feud horn*.

Next up, we have Mike Engle, and while I am not a big fan of McDonald’s and less a fan of Diego Primadona, i think you can see why i love these ideas. And of course, if you know anything about me, you know that I love that they are hand drawn. Mike offered some real nice write ups on these too, but in the interest of space, like all of these submissions, i edited, but i will offer this Gorske link to help you understand his first submission.

Last but not least we have Marty Hick’s croquet wicket submission. As you may or may not know Marty’s Society of Olde Crows (not all players pictured) play croquet on every NFL Sunday in St. Louis, and he imposes über strict uniform standards, and this concept would be their uniform hosiery. I guess you could say this is winner 2A, because i will be working with Marty on this one, so if you think you want one, and don’t want to go à la cate after the fact, let me know you are interested.

Congrats to all of the above Uni Watchers, you win the prize, and receive a stirrup of your choice, so there are thirteen winners, not just one. but now, drum roll please, our contest winner, Douglas Witmer. That pixture is of Doug as a kid, and while I prefer the Redleg’s look in stirrups, i think we can agree, that is a pretty awesome little league uniform slash stirrup combo, it’s no wonder he nailed this contest. Douglas had a few submissions, let’s look at them. First was this coffee cup design, it’s in part a nod to Jamie Moyer’s liberty bell, while also celebrating Leslie Buck. I can’t have it manufactured, but I am an old school black coffee in a paper cup at a diner kind of guy, so points scored. Next up, this Barnett Newman design based on the painting Onement I. Again, impossible to manufacture, but the abstract expressionist reference is scoring points. So Doug is barking up the right tree at this point, but nothing that screams winner~winner chicken dinner, until he came a rockin’ with this. To beguine the beguine, that is fantastic execution of articulating his design, just glorious. It is also a great idea, I know we have plenty of cyclists reading this blog, and this stirrup would reference the jersey worn by the reigning world champion of cycling. Now I would love to make this stirrup as Mr. Witmer drew it, but the implied texture of his illustration is more akin to wool, not necessarily nylon, so we will need to work on solving that togehter. The exact details of this stirrup will be revealed when we ultimately go live with the new orders, but congrats Douglas Witmer, and really everybody, I loved the work.

That’s all from the desk of the revolution for now,
~comrade 91200

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OK…there you have it Uni Watchers. The “Design-A-Stirrup Contest” winner(s). Thanks to all who participated and of course, a huge thanks to Comrade Marshall for his herculean efforts in running this one. I’m sure we’ll be hearing more from Robert during August.

And speaking of contests, the Design A Baseball Jersey Contest is still going on, and the deadline is August 1. I have lots of submissions so far, but it’s not too late to get yours in. See the referenced post for official rules, etc.

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Is Benchies just a reflection of the great American tableau? Here’s Ricko:

Everyone’s favorite protestors are at it again, offering diverse views on the compelling issues of the day. Nice to know so many Americans are so aware, so concerned, with things critical to our way of life. Is this a great country or what?

Here’s your full color Sunday Benchies.

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Back again with more Uniform Tweaks, Concepts and Revisions today. Lots to get to, and if you have a tweak, change or concept for any sport, send them my way. Still finding the tweaks have slowed to a trickle, so if you have something you’d like to show, give me a shout.

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Up first today is Chris Geis (who posts as “Geeman“), with not so much a tweak…but, well…an interesting concept:

I hooked up with Andy Thoele via UniWatch and he made this helmet a couple of years ago (even though we now know it never existed). I was going to buy it from him, but I never heard from him again. No worries, but it’s a cool helmet.

Chris

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Next up is Adam Anderson, who has a new look for the Chicago Bulls:

Hi Phil,

The Bulls alt jerseys have just been god-awful since they introduced them back in the 90’s. They almost kind of look like the knock-off, cheap-o, Wal-Mart version of their Home and Away classic versions!

I always loved the ‘Chicago’ script on the old home jerseys, and thought that reincorporating it on the black alts would be perfect. I’m also a big fan of the striping on the Marquette & DePaul unis, as well as the current Cavs alt (it would definitely make LeBron feel at home with his new team…). So why not experiment with my favorites and see what happens!

Here’s the result — looks all right, and at least it’s better than anything the Bulls have come up with in 15 years…

Adam Anderson

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In the third spot today is James Estrada, who has a wonderful concept for the Miami hoopsters:

I am proposing a name change to the Miami Heat in light of LeBron and Chris Bosh’s defection there. Couldn’t decide between Miami Cheat or Miami Cheese for the more apt name. Here are the “new” unis

-James E.

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And closing down the show today is Patrick Lange who has three separate tweaks:

With Nebraska moving to the Big Ten I thought it was time for a change for the Badgers.

Maybe if Jay-Z and Prokhorov would have shown LeBron these unis, the King would have chosen to join the Nets.

Finally I have a complete overhaul of the Minnesota Timberwolves, I would like them to readopt the Minneapolis and lose the Timber.

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That’s all for today — keep the tweaks coming because I will be running them occasionally during the August weekdays.

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Back at the beginning of the 2010 season, I announced the 2010 Uni Tracking that a number of us do. Last year, I devoted about four full weekend columns to it, and that was probably a bit much for most of us to take in one dose, so this year, I’ll occasionally post the updated tracking of certain teams as the trackers send them in. So, if you’ve been doing your due diligence with your team, send me your mid-season tracking reports, and I’ll post them as a “sub article” on the weekends. OK? OK!

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Today’s tracker is Mike Vamosi, who has actually appeared before, and he’s a Royals tracker. But he’s updated his spreadsheet now and wanted to show it to us:

Dear Mr. Hecken,

I’ve gone back and redone my Royals uniwatch after seeing another fan set his up in excel they are probably similar to one another but thought I’d still send you the results.

–Mike

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That’s all for today. Keep the updates coming — I’ll be sure to run them during the weekdays in August.

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And last, but not least, the Houston Astros did another throwback thingy last evening, turning the clock back to 1989 through 1993; according to Mr. Okkonen, they should have been wearing white cleats, but last night they were outfitted in black ones. I didn’t see the game, but from all the photos on the wire, it looked like everyone wore stirrups. Their opponents, the Cincinnati Reds, did not participate in the throwback festivities, wearing their standard road pajamas.

Other than not wearing proper white cleats, the unis were pretty spot on. Of course, even back then, most guys wore their pants a bit longer than last evening. But as far as the uniforms themselves, they did pretty well.

Unfortunately, when guys who don’t normally wear stirrups are forced to do so, they sometimes wear them backwards (high tops don’t exactly help that look). What was surprising, however, is that Roy Oswalt, who has often gone high socked (although not stirruped), also had his on backwards.

Apparently stirrups are much more of a burden to today’s players than we would have imagined. Reader Brad Wray tipped me wise to this Tweet from Hunter Pence, who had this to say about the hosiery: “These stirrups are so uncomfortable. I can’t believe the old schoolers did it every day.”

The Revolution is not deterred. Respect for the proper hosiery is earned, not given.

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OK, folks, that’s all for this fine Sunday. This will be my last weekend post until September, as I’ll be pulling an Ed McMahon and sitting in Johnny’s chair (that’d be Paul) and handling the weekdays in August, and John Ekdahl will be sliding into my weekends. Paul, of course, will be taking a much-deserved vacation to recharge his batteries for the upcoming football season.

There will be content (not as lengthy or involved as the weekends) every day, and there will also be tickers, so keep those ticker submissions going to the usual address. If you have any College Football Uniform News, Paul would like you to send that to him (I’m sure he’ll have more on that this coming week, and I’ll remind you guys periodically during August).

Cheers, and I’ll see you the first Monday in August.

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These stirrups are so uncomfortable. I can’t believe the old schoolers did it every day. — Hunter Pence

 
  
 
Comments (89)

    Did Ed ever host? – I thought they brought in people like Don Rickles, Joan Rivers, and David Brennan – to takeover from Johnny.

    It’s funny – and I know the reader was only suggesting it as an alternative uni for the Bulls – but their main uni – has almost risen to un-touchable status – mainly because of MJ – and off course the Cavaliers – well they went through so many uni’s during LeBron era, and it ended badly – that no doubt the Cavs will go through another uni overhaul in no time.

    When the Tonight Show was still in NYC, Big Ed hosted while Johnny was stuck in a snowstorm. I think he hosted a hand full of other times.

    I like that the Cavs are going to a more yellow gold, but I think Dan Gilbert would join me in wanting a uni overhaul. Of course, I’d like to see a return to one of these:
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    But, a Cavs tweak may be in order today.

    Speaking of Cavs unis, some say Lebron’s number still should be retired, others say retire it with Jordan’s name on the back. Thanks to The Shot and The Decision, neither idea is going to fly in Cleveland. Originally I thought they could retire Tyrone Corbin’s jersey (he is a member of the Cavs’ All-One-Game Team for his 1987 buzzer-beating tip-in against the NBA Champion Lakers), but I have another idea – each year the last man on the roster gets to wear 23. Or you could make it the blood jersey they need to keep on hand for blood-stained or ripped jerseys.

    Why does everyone on this site like stirrups so much? I dont get it. They’re weird, serve no point, and don’t even look cool.

    I’m waiting for them to change the name of the site to “Stirrup Watch”.
    Kidding aside, I think stirrups look great, but I’m not on the same page with the obsession that Paul and Phil are.
    Ricko eloquently stated a while back that times change and we no longer wear what was in style a long time ago.
    I wore them in Little League for 8 years. But the truth is, they are uncomfortable. They irritate the knees and the stirrup itself feels funny under the feet. They had to be adjusted multiple times during the games. I always thought they looked cool, and still do.(see Tampa Rays) With all due respect, I don’t know why the hosiery honchos discount the comfort argument over the aesthetics.
    Old school sannies were too thin and invited blistering, so the ribbon faux ‘rups were a Godsend to me. They are thicker and much more comfortable, just like the “soccer” socks” that Ian Kinsler and others wear.
    As a big Orioles fan, I loved the way Frank Robinson wore his socks. He’s my candidate for making any uniform look good. (even the Indians’ “blood clots”.) My mom fixed mine to look like his for my last few years of Little League, but they went way above the knees, were restrictive and uncomfortable. I sported them for the 1st couple of years of men’s softball before switching to the ribbons. Once I turned 40, I had to stop sliding and now wear shorts. (sorry, Ricko) Occasionally, some of my teammates and I will wear the ribbons socks (in team colors, of course) with shorts. It looks ridiculous and tacky, but it screams “look at me!”

    “Once I turned 40, I had to stop sliding and now wear shorts. (sorry, Ricko)”

    Nothing wrong with shorts for softball. I wear them when it’s extrordinarily hot (meaning almost all the time when I was playing regularly in Florida), but I wear kneehigh socks when I do. Have to, for same reason I wear long pants. It’s about self-preservation. Instinct kicks in and I still slide, dive for balls and run into fences far too often. I’m sure it’s some kind of Peter Pan psychosis.

    One other thing that I know to be true, too, is that they’re making the ground a helluva lot harder now than when I was young. Sounds like you’ve discovered that, too. :)

    —Ricko

    I know what you mean about the instincts kicking in. I had to wean off the diving and sliding gradually.
    It is a psychosis, but it’s a grand psychosis.

    What are you a twelve year old girl? They’re “weird”? No, they are totally tubular.

    not “everyone”… IMO the most heinous thing in uniforms today is the Oregon Ducks, followed closely by BFBS. Non-historic baseball hosiery is way down on my list.

    Team Radio Shack in the Tour de France started the day wearing black uniforms for the 28 million people in the world living with cancer. They were getting ready to pass the start line and were told by the organizers and UCI to put on their red uniforms or the entire team or individual riders would be excluded from the Tour. Nothing like after 21 days of racing to get penalized on the run into Paris.

    Here is the press release.
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    So the team put their reds over the black uniform, but then the Tour de France organizers have said, “We can’t see the numbers (because the reds don’t have the numbers, because they hadn’t planned on wearing them).”

    Now they are stopping the race and giving the team enough time to take the numbers off the black and put them on the red.

    Taking the text from the Tour’s in time reporting.

    14:41
    UCI Make Ruling on Jerseys:
    “The special black jerseys that are being worn by RadioShack will only be used in the neutral zone. The UCI has insisted that the nine riders who are leading the team classification must swap the black jerseys for the traditional red colors otherwise they won’t be allowed to start.”

    14:45
    Part of the UCI Rules:
    “The UCI commissaire has announced that RadioShack MUST (their emphasis) change their jerseys and wear the official race number. If they do not swap their black tops for the red ones, they will not be allowed to start the race. It’s a gesture for a charity but now all riders have to wait for the change over because of this publicity stunt.”

    14:52
    The Longest Neutral Ride:
    “The peloton is sauntering to the site of the official start. The reason for the late start is RadioShack’s antics a publicity stunt was conducted and now the riders have to remove their special-edition black jerseys, remove their race numbers and do a road-side swap with their official jerseys. The riders are now sitting in the gutter doing what the rule book says they should have done all along.”

    14:55
    Lance Objecting to Regulations:
    “Lance Armstrong has hid red RadioShack jersey on, but it’s over the black one with ’28’ on the back. He is yet to swap the race numbers and he’s riding along while teammates are changing their ‘dossards’. The start of Lance’s last day of competition is beginning with controversy.”

    14:58
    Lance to be left behind
    “The official start is going to be called while Lance Armstrong is riding without the regulation outfit.”

    15:01
    Numbers flapping in the wind
    “Lance Armstrong’s numbers have been pinned on in such a rush that they’re flapping in the wind like a first-year juvenile rider might start their first race. He is yet to arrive at the site of the official start but he has Popovych alongside for assistance should the peleton decide to start racing.”

    Too bad they couldn’t wear it, it’s actually a pretty sharp looking jersey. Perhaps next year Lance can sponsor his own Team LIVESTRONG and let them wear these.

    Lance before the final stage.
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    Levi Leipheimer from the back before the stage
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    Sergio Paulinho
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    All of the countries over the heart
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    Changing on the bike, by putting on “Two” jerseys.
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    Stopping to change before the actual start of the race today.
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    Here it is on the podium for the team award.

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    Hold on… So was it that all 13 of us got a stirrup? If that’s the case, how do I (I’m the guy with the “schoolhouse rock 4oj design) claim my ‘rup?

    OK, power is back at the Vilk house, so now I can chime in on yesterday’s stuff. Monochrome teal Mariners, yellow A’s, powder Rays and navy Yankees – my favorite candidates for actual consideration. And Daniel’s 49ers were my favorite of yesterday’s tweaks.

    Now for today, Scott’s Rubber Eraser stirrup is brilliant. Patrick Lange hit a three-run homer with his tweaks. He woulda had a grand slam, but he had to put “Wolves” on the butt of his shorts. I also like bringing back the script “Chicago” to the Bulls’ unis. And I dig the Astros throwbacks.

    The Bulls could improve their look tenfold with one simple move. Get rid of that link and link to something that doesn’t look like satin pajamas.

    Beyond that, a return to the script wordmark would be nice, but the link.

    As for the black alt, the current one is awful on all levels. They really need to get rid of it. If they must have an alt, they should bring link back.

    I agree with JTH about the Bulls’ (and Miami’s) crappy, shiny fabric. Almost makes it look less red on the road. And the shiny white fabric they use at home makes it look like they’re wearing gray or silver. Yuck.

    I disagree, however, with the pinstriped black Bulls jersey. Personally, I think it was awful, even though it was the original. When “third jerseys” (or “alternate road jerseys”) first came out in the early 90’s, I thought to myself, wouldn’t it be cool if the Bulls had a black jersey? I wondered what it should look like, and concluded that the best (and simplest look) would be to make it look exactly like the red, away jersey, except to swap the red with black, i.e., black jersey and red letters with white outlines. Of course then they came out with the pinstripes and I was like, “be careful what you wish for, because you’re not always gonna get what you want.” And I was right.

    Anyway, they’ve gotten better, and the newest black Bulls jersey is basically the “opposite” of the home, white jersey, but it’d be better if the words “BULLS” and the jersey numbers were solid red with white outlines, instead of the way they are, which is red with black outlines, outlined with white out-outlines.

    By the way, here’s a tweak I did for UniWatch:
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    That red pinstriped Bulls black alt reminds me too much of the original Magic / old Jazz alts. The old cursive script in red with white trim would do it, if they really really need an alternate. The current alt is too blocky & the black trim is needless.

    Wasn’t a damn thing wrong with the original Magic unis. Well, except for that link. It truly was turrible, just turrible.

    Anyway, what the Bulls’ black alt lacked in originality (pinstripes) it made up for in… um… non-shitty fonts.

    As for the Jazz, I don’t recall them wearing a pinstriped uni. You know the rule — pics or it never happened.

    It wasn’t a pinstriped uni, but it was black & red, and trendy. I have no idea what years the Jazz wore them, but they did:

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    I LOVE the rainbow cycling world champion stirrups. I would rather see thicker stripes, encompassing most of the stirrup, though with enough room for some white at the top and bottom. I’ll most certainly be getting these when they become available.

    I think there are a few number of teams in each of the major sports that should never change their uniforms. Modernization of fabric and manufacturing aside, these unis have ( with the exception of the occasional alternate ) more or less remained unchanged. They have become iconic and should be labeled “untouchables”..

    Because of the dominance of the Jordan / Pippen bulls, that uni is now also in that category. It should not be changed….IMO. I would also include the Knicks, Celtics and Lakers. Yes there have been some changes, but overall same design, same team colors.

    Baseball: Yankees, Tigers, Dodgers, Cubs and Cardinals.

    NFL: Cowboys, Steelers, Raiders, Chargers, Bears, Packers, Colts and Giants.

    NHL: Rangers, Devils, Flyers, Canadiens and Red Wings…

    What do you think?

    you talking homes or aways?

    and are you talking about “freezing” the current unis now? because up until a few years ago (in some cases less than two decades, some less), the cubs, chargers, giants and devils (off the top of my head) wore different unis than they do now…

    teams like the yankees, dodgers, tigers and cards have kept the same basic uniform for eons, as have the boys, raiders, bears, packers & colts…but the chargers only recently went to their current uni (which is no way their best ever), and the giants during the LT years had a mighty fine uni (with the exception of the “GIANTS” on the helment — they should never have dropped the ‘ny’)

    the flyers are still in transition and many think the devils green & red is far superior to the black they now wear — you want them to lock into the black & red?

    and the knicks uniform SUCKS now…with all the bfbs on the road and the stupid blue panels on the home…no way should they freeze that one

    /just a few thoughts

    Basically just talking about the home unis. No not freezing the exact uni. I am referring more to the overall uni and color scheme ( exception is the devils, yes they replaced green with black ).

    The Knicks uni sucks, but it is a classic ( although they added BFBS accents ).

    I am a die hard Giants fan, and I like their current unis, better than the Simms-LT versions. They went back to the basics and should never have veered away from that. So teams should never be “locked in” to a uni, but there are teams that not only change unis, but team colors every few years. I think the teams I mentioned on the list, should NEVER EVER even think about making changes like that…

    This is a sore point with me. Aside from the Mets’ black jerseys, the Knicks have the worst uniforms in New York. The real classic unis are devoid of the ridiculous embellishments they have added since their dalliance with the dark blue and maroon fiasco beginning in 1979. The classic Knick uniform was quite similar to the Celtics (except for the colors, of course). They just need to keep it simple.
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    The Maroon ones were better than anything since they added black to the color scheme. You just need a better picture:
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    My own take on the matter is that older teams can make minor changes to their uniform styles and still keep the tradition intact, while looking better. For example, the Oakland Raiders should replace their black numbers with silver. In baseball, the Cardinals should have St. Louis in script on their road uniforms. In hockey, the Rangers should bring back the liberty head alternate jersey.

    Now a team like the Red Wings should not add another color to their traditional jersey, but should wear a throwback with more regularity.

    I am 50-50 on the “liberty head” Ranger uniforms. I like them on their own…but not next to the classic sweater..

    I agree with some classic teams making minor changes…but that’s how the Vikings started…and have managed to complete screw up a classic look…

    And it seems like my mind blocked out the Knicks wearing maroon…..I have no recollection, not even a faint memory…..weird..

    I don’t miss the Cowboys’ uniforms with the huge stars on the shoulder pads.

    NBA teams that often change their uniforms are the generally the teams that never win. Teams that win (or have won in the past) tend to keep their uniforms generally intact, e.g., Celtics, Spurs (no third jersey, except of throwback ABA silvers), Bulls (except for alternate) and Lakers (unchanged since 2000 revamp).

    The Pistons are the exception to the rule on one end of the spectrum, meaning they’ve won in the past yet changed colors–to teal, no less. The Clippers are on the other side of the spectrum, i.e., they don’t win, yet resist changes to their uniforms =P

    I wonder who was the marketing superstar that came up those horrendous teal Piston unis….

    I bought my 4 year old (at the time) nephew one of those back in the day. I thought it was nasty, but he liked it a lot. He figured the team was named The Mean Horses.

    Some of this has to do with who is your favorite team. For example, I’m not a Cowboys fan, but do respect their winning tradition. I liked the double star jersey of the 90s, felt it was a good update, the pants were not changed on those unis.

    Again, probably in the minority here, but I also like the Pistons teal uniforms. Not a Pistons fan either, but it seemed like the club lacked a real logo instead of simply having the team name inside a basketball.

    Dislike the Lakers white uniform, think they should have used the 1960s blue throwback instead.

    I would add the Red Sox to the list. Wish they would retire the red alternate…

    Little disappointed my stirrups didn’t make the cut (not angry, the ones that did look great!) but I just thought I’d show the group and get your thoughts! I’d love a pair…just don’t think I can justify buying a lot of em!

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    you never submitted that. did you just post it in the comments? for the record, i like it, would have made the cut.

    I’d buy all three of them. Maybe two or three of each.

    No, I’d buy FIVE of each — one for each member of my nuclear family. And we’d all wear them to church each Sunday.

    hah!

    brad wray just forwarded me another tweet on the rups: “Stirrups? These things are horrendous. Its like playing the entire game standing on an extension cord.” Geoff Blum, during TV broadcast

    Said it before, players today have no frame of reference for stirrups. Lots of colored sock showing on a stirrup sock really has been all but gone from MLB for almost forty years now. There always will be a few guys who wear them, but it’s like arguing for a return to knickers & kneehighs on the PGA tour. Gonna be a long and largely futile fight. Tilting at windmills, it is.

    “Sancho, my horse!!!”

    —Ricko

    oops, forgot to change my name over from pilsen casualty. have a bag~b~q today, so i won’t be looking at the comments. just send your complaints directly to me at rpmarshallart at the gmail in addition to posting them.

    These stirrups are so uncomfortable. I can’t believe the old schoolers did it every day. – Hunter Pence

    He’s just asking for it from this site, isn’t he.

    @ Adam Anderson:
    Really nice tweak, if not a bit too crowded on the sides. Incorporating the Cavs’ striping is great, but might work better if you throw out the solid red stripe down the side. At least it’s consistent with the elastics design on the shorts.

    I also like your use of the Bulls logo on the front, since the name of the city is often used on the front of the jersey instead of the team name. (Sacramento Kings does the opposite. Go figure.) But because the NBA logoman logo is there, it kind of throws the jersey out of balance. May I suggest moving the Bullshead to the left side of the jersey to balance out the logos? Either that, or get rid of the Jerry West silhouette, but I think it’s league required. No offense to Mr. Clutch, but I’m only concerned about the tweaks here =)

    Here’s my take on your tweak, i.e., how I would tweak your tweak:
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    @ James Estrada:
    I think CHEAT isn’t the right word to use, even though Cleveland folks really feel like they may have gotten cheated by LeBron. But it is the easiest tweak =) The people who deserve that name are, on the top of my head, Bernie Madoff, the folks at BP, and Kobe Bryand (think “Colorado” and $4 million diamond ring). CHEESE is very fitting. I’d go with CHEESE.

    I think LeBron took what Kevin Garnett said to heart, and decided that even though he won’t get to be KING anymore, he really wasn’t a king to begin with, for he’s probably closer to being a Scottie Pippen than a Michael Jordan. And what good is a king without a crown–or in this case, ring?

    Hi Paul – really like your tweaks to my tweak – looks really good and thanks for the feedback!

    I am not even from Chicago but would give the Chicago flag stirrups my vote and would even buy a pair. That has to be the best municipal flag going. I would think those would be hit at Wrigley, maybe not Comiskey (I am still calling it that), you’d get your a$$ kicked for wearing stirrups there.

    Why should Wisconsin tweak their uni? If anyone should it would be the newbie, Nebraska.

    Someone asked for a pic of the Orioles wearing the Browns jersey a few days ago. I couldn’t find one till I went through my Throwback Cards pictures and found this one.
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    Something not mentioned about the Astro 1989 throwbacks…no MLB logo on the back of the hat. Minor thing, but as an owner of a pre and a post 1992 Astros cap with the orange star, it’s a cool little thing.

    As for the stirrup entries, they are all very inspired and I only regret that I lost track of time and did not enter any of my ideas. I totaly love the pencil design!

    Always thought the best Astros hat was the orange version, it was unique, which set it apart from the blue version. I don’t recall Houston ever wearing the orange hat with the rainbow sleeve jerseys, though.

    correct…they never wore the orange cap with the rainblow sleeves — just the tequila sunrise…

    by 1980, when the introduced the rainbow sleeves for the roads, they introed (re-introed?) the blue cap for that specific jersey, keeping the orange for the homes…82 was the last year for the orange cap — they went to the blue full time beginning in 1983

    I agree, the orange cap is unique. I have one and it looks great.

    I am missing only one cap…a red cap with the blue star on it from 1965(?). Distant Replays had one before they changed ownership, but I can’t find any real info on it.

    Are you sure about the Astros red cap from the 60s? I can’t find it on the web. Is it possible that was an alternate hat not actually used by the Astros?

    I e-mailed DR about that red cap and got a basic response to contast New Era about it. I remember even talking to a guy at DR–before it was sold–about the cap and was basically told that he was surprised that they were even able to get them. Of course I had asked about a size and not exactly anything else. Much like the Astros Pill Box cap that I have, this is another white whale for me.

    All I have been able to find is that the red cap was proably used as the late-60s(?) road cap. Other than that, I have only speculation.

    Hot Damn! put the right words into a web search and you can find anything!

    From the Chris Creamer message board: link

    Of course, the thread is from 2006 and the images do not work, but it is fun to read the pissing match that goes on over if it is red or “dark orange”.

    …and as you can see on teh top row of this picture: link
    That is not orange. Unless it is a red-orange, in which case is still not the Astros Orange of the hat in the middle but still not Astros Brick Red that was first used in 2000.

    Could the hat you’re referring to be the 1971-74 version? Did the Astros go to a real orange hat for the 1975 season, along with the uniform change?

    i know it’s dead, so who knows how many folks are actually reading the comments this e’en, but i just flipped on SNB…(so nice not to have joe morgan, but i digress–HOF weekend rules)…

    but cubs in their home white pins with crisp blue caps…cards in their gorgeous gray roads with navy caps…

    we don’t do “5 & 1’s” for baseball…but this one has gotta rank up there as one of the top matchups for two baseball teams…

    hmmmmm….that gives me a idear

    Yeah, but brendon ryan has his pants down low. I think he’s the only cardinal that routinely hikes them up. Too many jammy panters.

    As a Badgers football season ticket holder, those proposed new unis for UW are awful. I love the set they have now, especially with all the success the lasst 20 years in them.a

    Thanks RPM for that, I have sent my request, and though I hate to sound curious and egotistical, for those comments on buying the ones on the left, are you by chance referring to my stirrups? If so, that’s great to hear.

    I wish I had a screenshot handy but Yankees pitcher Dustin Moseley appeared to be wearing Chien-Ming Wang’s #40 jersey from last season, with the current memorial patches and armband.

    His #40 jersey had the navy and red MLB logo on the back. I tried to find pics online but nothing had a shot of his back.

    oh, and Phil, Joe Morgan is okay. McCarver – not so much. Hawk Harrelson? I like him. Your boy Hagain – no way.

    Frequently throughout a game – at least once every other inning, often several times per out – Joe Morgan describes some point of strategy or behavior that is literally the opposite of what the viewer is watching with his own eyes. Morgan will describe, say, how teams put a huge shift on for an aging slugger known pulling the ball, and how that’s a sign of respect but forces the slugger to hit outside of his comfort zone blah blah blah, and meanwhile the slugger goes opposite field into an easy out because the defense didn’t put the shift on. With Morgan, this happens all the time.

    Joe Morgan does perfectly serviceable color commentary on baseball games; it’s just that the games he’s calling exist entirely in his own head and bear no resemblance whatsoever to the actual games being played by actual players in real life right in front of him. Which makes Joe Morgan, with apologies to Paul’s crusade against Wayne Hagin, the Worst Baseball Broadcaster Ever.

    The Bic mac and the Coffee cup made me laugh the most. Wear one on the left and the other on the right and you have a meal :)

    Comrade Marshall, please please please please add Phillip Wilson’s D-Day socks to the calendar for revolutionary action before spring 2011!

    hah thanks. When I was thinking for ideas it basically when “Hey Invasion stripes… Sock Stripes Perfect.” :)

    Someone asked a question to Kent Tekulve in the Pirates broadcast after the game about the pj baseball look. Tek went on to describe that the Pirates would send tailors to spring training to fit the players.
    Tek then went on to praise a former teammate of his for being the first player to wear the pj pants.

    Ben Francisco hit a homer in yesterdays Phillies win. It looked even better flying away from his nicely tailored uniform, which I’ve been noticing all season. I see he wore it well with the Indians, too. Add him to the best dressed list.

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