Been a little while since we checked in with Robert Harvell and his amazing archive of football imagery. Some real doozies this time, too. One thing I’ve noticed when preparing these entries is that I keep writing, “Here’s something I’ve never seen before,” which should give you an idea of how limited my vocabulary is how much fun it is to sift through Robert’s stash.
Okay, without further ado:
• I’ve seen lots of Rose Bowl teams wearing rose-themed patches, but I don’t think I’d seen such patches on Illinois before. That’s from the 1984 game.
• Whoa, they don’t make coaches like this anymore. Love the buffalo horn helmets, too.
• Ah, if only I’d gone to Princeton.
• Look at the forehead ridge on Richard Todd’s helmet. What brand is that? (Update: It’s apparently Rawlings.)
• In the past I’ve run lots of photos of those old molded plexiglass masks. But I’d never seen one tied to the helmet! Here’s an even more bizarre example.
• And here’s yet another primitive mask design. That one was created for Georgia QB John Rauch after he fractured his cheek.
• I believe this shot is from an AFL all-star game. Ditto for this one and this one.
• What about this shot of Joe Willie — is that an AFL all-star game or a college all-star game? Additional views here, here, and here. (Update: As Terry Proctor quickly pointed out, the last photo in the sequence shows the AFL logo on the football, so these are definitely from an AFL All-Star Game. When you compare these Namath photos with the ones in the previous bullet graf, it’s interesting to see that they had so many different ASG uniforms in their short existence.)
• Never realized the Niners’ equipment staff used handwritten rear-helmet uni numbers.
• Here’s a nice shot of Kenny “double-zero” Burrough as a Saint. (He’s still trading on his uni number, incidentally.)
• Someone get Bobby Douglass a new nameplate!
• And someone get this team a locker room.
• We all know about the snow plow game, but check this out: A ref sweeping away snow with a broom.
• If your team is gonna wear a special helmet decal, shouldn’t all the players wear it?
• Major find here: Check out this official’s jersey. Here’s a front view. Never seen a football official wearing a chevron pattern like that.
• Here’s another officiating shirt that’s new to me. That’s Alabama vs. George Washington, 1932.
• And check out these officials, wearing bow ties and cardigans! That’s USC vs. Notre Dame, 1929.
• One last officiating shot: I love this zebra’s SEC patch. Note the yoked and collared shirt. (Update: As some readers have immediately pointed out, maybe it doesn’t say “SEC” after all. Anyone know what patch that is?)
More excellent material coming from Robert’s archive soon.
Collector’s Corner, by Brinke Guthrie
And we’re back with another batch of sports collectible auctions from the nooks and crannies of eBay. Keep those submissions coming!
• Big set of 1970s NFL stickers from a coffee company. Never seen these before.
• Here’s a nice set of hockey coins from 1966-67. What, no Gump Worsley?
• Just love these ’70s MLB magnets. And they slipped an NBA Hornets one in there, too.
• Cool KC Scouts pennant (courtesy of Andrew Mocella).
• Also from Andrew: Sport O’ Keefe always sponsored cool-looking schedules, like the CFL Montreal Concordes.
• Here’s a rare one: a Leaf NFL pennant collector’s book.
• Fantastic placemat for the 1957 World Series Champion Milwaukee Braves. [Point Beer is still made up in Stevens Point, by the way. Never seen it outside of Wisconsin. — PL]
• One and done: a 1969 Seattle Pilots coffee mug.
• Here’s something you don’t see every day: a St. Louis Browns hand fan!
• Very nice Astros window sticker, from 1964.
• And today’s Lukas/Mets vintage item: a pennant that I’m willing to bet wasn’t officially licensed. Who buys this stuff?
Seen something on eBay that you think would make good Collector’s Corner fodder? Send your submissions here.
Uni Watch News Ticker: The Reading Phillies wore “Crazy Hot Dog Vendor” jerseys on Sunday (with thanks to Phil Stump). ”¦ New uni number for Capitals goalie Semyon Varlamov (with thanks to Dane Drutis). ”¦ Yesterday I mentioned that 19th-century baseball teams would trade ribbons, much like soccer teams now trade jerseys. Terence Kearns sent along a fantastic article that explains the ribbon-swap phenomenon. ”¦ One of those old Dodgers satin uniforms is up for auction (with thanks to Tony Nielsen). ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: An amusing analysis of Clemson’s football uniforms. ”¦ If you actually care about the All-Star Game BP jerseys, well, that makes one of us. ”¦ New name/number font for Real Madrid (with thanks to Timothy O’Malley). … An NAHL team appears to have stolen an Icethetics reader’s logo concept. ”¦ Note the little “84” tag on this photo of Rick Sutcliffe. What happened to the rest of the jock tag? And/or why is “84” positioned so high as to be visible? (As noted by Mike Engle.) ”¦ Here’s more on everyone’s favorite mascot, Mr. Celery (with thanks to Jason Levine). ”¦ Yanks will be wearing a Bob Sheppard memorial starting with their next game, which is Friday. According to this article, “it will be more than the usual black armband the Yankees normally attach. There was talk yesterday about a microphone being part of the deal.” ”¦ RIP, Harvey — a much greater loss to Cleveland than Lebron. And RIP to you too, Tuli — thanks for always making my city a more interesting place.
Black Tuesday: With the Yanks having lost Bob Sheppard and George Steinbrenner in the space of a few days, I’ve whipped up a quick ESPN piece about teams with multiple uniform memorials. Look here.
Gentlemen, start your DVRs: I’m sure there’ll be plenty of uni-notable moments in tonight’s MLB All-Star Game, so let’s try to get as many good screen shots as possible, yes? Yes! If you capture something worthwhile, please send it my way tonight. Thanks.
Damn straight. And I bet he never even considered wearing a Yankees cap to an Indians game.
Amen to that.
Where are they going to put the George Steinbrenner memorial patch, since George passed away this morning??
the “SEC” patch on the official’s sleeve appears to actually say SFA… but I have no idea what that could stand for.
The Cubs in the 80’s tagged their jerseys in 2 places. The Coller tag had all the usual information, the Uni #, year, set and Size. The 2nd tag, which is showing on Sutcliffe’s jersey was a year tag that was on the front near the botttom of the jersey. Here are some examples from a Chuck Rainey 84 Road jersey I own.
THe entire front of the jersey (Notice the year tag on the bottom right of the jersey as you look at it)
A closeup of the little year tag on the jersey
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The regular tag in the coller
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Uni Watch readers are so damn smart and knowledgeable. Thanks for the info!
Yeah..now if I can only spell “COLLAR” correctly
For some reason, the link with the entire jersey did not show up…Here it is again
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Them’s buffalo horns…
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Go, Buffs.
—Ricko
Duh. Right. Will fix text now.
Well, as long as West Texas as come up, might as well mention again one of the great lines ever from a pro football player. Jets’ WR Don Maynard, who grew up in that sparse part of the country, once said, “Until I was 14, I thought my name was ‘Git Wood’.”
Almost as good as when Eagle RB Ron “Po” James was asked how he got his nickname. “Cuz we was.”
—Ricko
I’d always heard “Git Wood” was what Herschel Walker thought his name was as a kid. Maybe Herschel had heard Maynard’s joke and was passing it on to a new generation.
“Po” James. LOL.
If you look at the football in Namath’s hand in the last photo you can see the AFL logo on it. The AFL used the Spalding J5V as their official ball.
I love it when Terry Proctor comments. The guy’s an encyclopedia.
Also, based on Namath’s haircut (that’s the way he looked after the Fu Manchu went bye-bye) and the style of facemask, I’d guess that’s the AFL All-Star Game following the Jets’ Super Bowl win (pretty sure he went to the three-bar cage the following season).
—Ricko
yep,in the All-Star photos that’s the ’68-’69 Namath facemask alright (same one he wore in the Super Bowl)
i like the shot of All-Stars Lamonica and Rentzel together…just imagine the Mad Bomber throwing to Bambi. the mind boggles.
Agreed re: Namath’s facemask.
“Bambi” was Lance Alworth, not Lance Rentzel. (Easy to confuse the two since both were WRs who wore #19, but for Dallas; Rentzel never played for the Chargers, nor for that matter in the AFL.)
D’oh! my mistake on the Alworth/Rentzel confusion
Yes, Namath did go to the cage the year of the Super Bowl.
(SI cover from College All Star game: “Joe is Back – But the Rookies Scare Him….”)
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I mean the year AFTER the Super Bowl….
related note from AFL ASG, How in the heck does George Blanda end up wearing #17? Could there have been anybody with more seniority than George Blanda? Even during the beginning of the AFL years.
Also, I do miss AllStars wearing different numbers in ASG’s because other guys have seniority. to me, the idea of duplicate numbers in ASG’s simply is the NFL wanting to market ASG jerseys in the players’ more familiar numbers. Kinda douchebaggeryish…..
Len Dawson with the Chiefs, #16
For anyone that cared to watch the Home Run Derby last night, did anyone notice that while the American Leaguers had the halo over the A, matching the Angel’s logo, the National Leaguers had the halo over the N? I know that A isn’t the first letter in National, but wouldn’t it have made more sense to put the halo over the first or second A in National?
I thought the halo over the N was to celebrate the Negro Leagues.
FYI: the link to the hockey coins extends down into the “Just love…” portion of the baseball magnets link.
Got it. Thanks.
Regarding Clemson’s uniform history:
If you scroll down on the link you actually see the early teams wearing purple jerseys and orange jerseys. Interesting.
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The purple jerseys are a nice alternate that should be worn sparingly, but the writer is correct; the amount of combinations has gotten out of hand and they are losing their identity. Don’t think I’ve seen them in orange on purple, though.
“Don’t think I’ve seen them in orange on purple, though.”
sure you have — in the “worst uni combo” of all time post…
Should be an exception for that one.
Ray Hayworth caught for the Dodgers in 1944. His ex-Congressman son hopes to beat John McCain in the Arizona Republical primary. His brother, Red, caught for the Browns in 1944.
Sheppard was great, though sort of vanilla. I preferred Tex Rickard at Ebbets Field, whose booming voice is still memorable.
His son, J. D. Hayworth, used to be the sportscaster for one of the TV stations in Greenville-Spartanburg, S.C., the area north of Clemson. Now he’s just a blowhard.
That was a fantastic article regarding baseball ribbon-swapping. I was wondering about that yesterday after it was mentioned here, but didn’t have time to research for myself (thanks to Terence Kearns). I especially liked the line about a former player who, in 1902, would reminisce about “baseball’s bygone era.” Longing for the game of your youth… it’s a baseball thing.
Point beer can be found in Chicago.
While the Fighting Falcons logo is a straight up rip off from icethetics, it would appear that enough elements have been changed(3 feathers vs 4, contrast colors inside the feathers, reversal of the crest, eye and eyebrow) that it doesn’t count as copyright infringement.
So I guess that doesn’t make it a straight up rip off, but it isn’t very nice.
I’ve seen teams get nailed for copyright infringement with logos that looked less similar than those two. I think the Fighting Falcons saw the Icethetics logo, then tried to change just enough so that it isn’t copyright infringement. But when you do that, it still is copyright infringement.
None of that matters. The designer probably ripped the new eye from somewhere else just as well. I thought Arizona Cardinals when I first saw it, but I haven’t compared. Fact is, the whole concept of the graphic is identical and 80% of the execution is the same. You can’t start with an existing logo, change a few things on it and then call it your own, or sell it to someone that doesn’t know any better, which is probably what happened. Either that, or the team came to the designer with Ivall’s design and said We want this logo, but wee need you to change it up a little. Either way, at least the designer is implicated here, and possibly the team. There’s no way around it. They need to quit using it asap. If they don’t, a court will make them, guaranteed.
It’d be interesting to see what would happen if that did go to court. Really, the “original design” is at best a parody of the Blackhawks logo.
From that Icethetics post:
Granted, I know next to nothing about copyright/trademark law, but if money is changing hands under the terms of this deal, I think if anyone can make a case for infringement, it’s the Chicago West Side Hockey Club.
And the “original” stole elements wholesale from the Chicago Blackhawks, which is someone else’s IP.
What, no honor among thieves?
The “original” didn’t “steal” anything…it was a rebranding concept done for shits and giggles on a website about sports logos. The folks stealing it are clearly in the wrong here, and are the only ones who could be considered “thieves”. Ivall put the work in, and he deserves to be compensated (or at the very least acknowledged) for it.
Acknowledged? Yes. Compensated? Probably not.
The original is not being sold by its creator and thus does not infringe on the Blackhawks’ business. It is simply an original interpretation of the Blackhawks’ identity created by a fan for personal use, which is fair. Ivall (the fan) owns the copyright to that work, which is fair. For example, the Blackhawks would need to compensate Ivall should they ever wish to use the bird logo. Just because it’s a ‘Blackhawks logo’ does not mean that the Blackhawks own the right to it.
However, that does not mean that Ivall is free to sell this image willy nilly in the marketplace. I believe the visual language contained in it is too indebted to the Blackhawks’ own logo and would be violating copyright law should another team wish to adopt the bird logo for full-time use (unless the team was affiliated with the Blackhawks or something). Either way, it would need approval from the team/league to appear in the marketplace as the identity of another team.
What is true, though, is that anyone selling the bird logo without Ivall’s permission is in violation of copyright law since they did not create the image. Furthermore, anyone (including Ivall) selling the bird logo and representing it as Blackhawks’ merchandise is in violation of copyright law unless they own a license and have approval from the team/league to produce the merchandise. These perople, like the shirt company, are likely infringing on both the copyright of Ivall and the business of the Blackhawks and the NHL.
Maybe I missed something, but what’s the deal with Namath’s logo-free helmet?
If you look at it closely in one of those pics, it looks like there is a remnant of one of the green, center stripes left or it has been painted over.
Sorry… should have clarified… I meant why is his helmet logo-free and no one else’s in any of the AFL ASGs seem to be?
Love the photo of the Alabama vs. George Washington football game. I’m a GWU alum, and I’ve never before seen even a picture of the gridiron Colonials. (The school dropped football in 1966.) Question: Which team is Bama, and which is Gee Dub?
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‘Bama in the darks? Just a guess.
Is that a primitive shin guard on the ball carrier? And is the lead pursuer wearing stirrups?
Not sure which team is which, but the game was played at Griffith Stadium.
I found this team photo of the 1932 Crimson Tide:
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Makes it look like they’re probably wearing the darks in the photo. Plus you can see a few players wearing the same unis as in the 1931 team photo at the same site, which has a very different pattern than the white unis in the game photo.
I’d love to know what the colors are in that very busy Colonials jersey! I remember from freshman orientation that GW switched from blue and orange to buff and blue in 1904, when it changed names from Columbian to George Washington, and “Colonials” was officially adopted by student vote in 1928. So presumably the unis have some shade of tan/gold and blue, but I see at least three distinct colors there in addition to white.
(Also, Wiki says the game was played in Washington, Bama won 28-6, and the game marked kind of a “coming out” for GWU’s football program on the national scene.)
The HELMET HUT website has a pretty good article in their archives about the GW football program and it’s later years before closing down. I believe that you can find it in the “Helmet News” section of the website.
GW has some of the old Colonials football uniforms in the University Archives. The jersey was Buff with Blue details and the stripes on the front were red (I don’t know why). Hail to the Buff & Blue!
The patch might be depicting SFOA which probably stands for Something Football Officials Association.
Southern? Southeastern?
possibly “southern football conference,” which predated the sec, with most of the same teams.
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Same SFAO Logo on his left-breast. Don’t know what game this would be though. Could have been a regular Southern Conference game or a Southern bowl game, like the Sugar Bowl.
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R.I.P. Big Stein.
RIP Boss
Will be interesting to see what the Yanks do to honor him.
I am guessing that they will do a black armband for him as well. Have the Yankees ever done armbands on both arms?
Fire Girardi?
Press release from Heaven:
“Mr. Steinbrenner has ordered Jesus to get a haircut and shave that beard.”
Sad news out of NY with the passing of George Steinbrenner. :(
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Kasey Ignarski — got any pics of the back of that jersey?
Ask and you shall receive
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Just to let you know…when I bought the jersey at the Cubs gift store at the Cubs Convention back in the late 90’s, the name had been removed, but the number and tags were all present. I had the name restored, so that is new, but the rest is all original
Vertically arched the way it should be — that’s why I cringe when I see Mitchell & Ness asking $300 for link.
Luckily, the original stitching marks from the original name where present so I had the people who restored the name use that as their template to make up the new name
I guess Bob Sheppard will introduce George to Heaven….I wonder if he will run into Billy Martin up there!! RIP George…
the bronx is mourning
Someone needs to be in the headline-writing biz.
Yup. Phil’s is much more human and artful than “George Steinbrenner, owner of New York Yankees, has died in Tampa at age of 80”
Break out the black armbands
The old stadium gets torn down….Bob Sheppard is gone….George is gone….
YEAH WTF?
Am I the only one that was a little disappointed that the Princeton player didn’t have the famed “winged” helmet? Would have been the perfect uni.
You are not alone.
Yanks will be wearing a Bob Sheppard memorial starting with their next game, which is Friday. According to this article, “it will be more than the usual black armband the Yankees normally attach. There was talk yesterday about a microphone being part of the deal.”
2 arm bands?
I would be willing to say that the Yankees will wear an arm band with a Microphone on it for Sheppard, and then they will do like the NYPD and NYFD do for there fallen brethern, put a BLACK STRIP ACROSS THE interlocking NY on the chest
Is it sad that the first thing that went through my mind upon hearing that the Boss died was, “Wait, how are the Yankees going to do this with both of these men passing away?” What does this say about my priorities? I have drunk the uniwatch kool-aid.
LOVE that Point Beer/Milwaukee Braves sign. I’m a little biased because I am from Stevens Point (Home of the best tasting water in Wisconsin link)
I took a brewery tour in Point last time I was home for the holidays, and they did say they are going to be distributing their brew to “many other states very soon”. So we got that going for us… which is nice.
Why watch the Home Run Derby when there was a plethora of uni bliss on the MLB Network with the half hour baseball All-Star game shows of years past.
Mike Schmidt in the 1989 game with the gray Phils uniform? So many white spikes. And best of all, limited ASG patches and unmolested hats.
The ‘skills contest’ the day before in 1989 included catcher accuracy and relay teams. Awesome!
“The ‘skills contest’ the day before in 1989 included catcher accuracy and relay teams.”
Wow… I’d forgotten about that! I’d much rather see that than HRD. With the relay teams, did they do outfield>cut-off>home or was it just double-play combos?
Guy on the warning track had to pick up the ball, throw to shortstop/2B then to home. They had two plates – one in each ‘fungo circle’ – next to the plate.
The catcher accuracy was better. The catchers had to throw to this 8’x8′ target with a baseball player on it with a hole cutout where his glove would be for a tag.
Benito Santiago obviously won it.
Very cool! Love to see that.
Yeah, no doubt Santiago ruled in accuracy. That guy was brutal on base-stealers.
Re: NYY, Sheppard and Steinbrenner: Is there any example of a team wearing two memorials at the same time?
pretty sure the yankees have done it
think in 1999…one for catfish and one for joe d (maybe was armband & black #)?
Cubs in 1998 for Harry Caray and Jack Brickhouse.
Phillies: Tugger and the Pope.
Thank you for saying this! I was 100% sure that happened … until I went looking for proof on Google. Started to think – if it’s not on the internet, did it ever exist???
Here is a picture of how the CUbs did it in 98…THe Harry Caray patch on the right sleeve and the Jack Brickhouse one (“Hey Hey” above the Cubs patch) on the left hand sleeve
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Thanks all. I was curious and couldn’t place any examples.
Angels last year — Nick Adenhart and Preston Gomez.
The Dodgers in 1993 wore a single black patch with blue numbers and white names reading Roy 39 (Campanella) and Don 53 (Drysdale). The HOFers had died within a week of each other. I’m not sure if there was an intervening black band or a different patch just for Campanella.
Re: Reading Phillies Hot Dog Vendor uniforms – nice try, but wrong hats. Paul, I believe you know what I’m talking about, buddy.
also…think in 2004 mets had bob murphy and tug patch on opposite sleeves
As a red Sox fan who grew up in the 80’s, I was always geared to despise George Steinbrenner and mock his antics. When he railed against the disgrace of Boston fans throwing trash on the field after the Tschida blown call in the ’99 ALCS, I hated him with a white-hot passion, although I knew he was right. When Yankees fans did the same thing in the 2004 ALCS, I was downright giddy that he had been made to eat his words. I laughed at every Seinfeld ‘Big Stein’ scene of ridicule and smiled at all the anecdotes that made him look daffy and borderline psychotic.
Still, I must admit that the man grew on me. I can tell you that I do appreciate the fact that he used every bit of his energy for decades ressurecting baseball’s most noted organization (note: I didn’t say best). Although I got pissed every time the Yankees signed a big free agent, I slowly came to realize that it was not Steinbrenner’s fault that the system was flawed and that he only took advantage of it to help his team win.
As I’ve aged, I also respect what Steinbrenner did to protect the image and dignity of baseball. His dress codes were widely ridiculed, but after all, he wanted his ballplayers to look a certain way. Don’t we all want our ballplayers to look a certain way? Especially those of us who are routine readers of this site?
When I heard the news of his passing this morning, I gave George a mental salute. I think he will be remembered as one of the great builders of the game, in the late 20th century anyhow. Thanks for the memories Big Stein. R.I.P..
Hear, hear.
I’ve had the exact same reaction over the years… disdain followed by respect and admiration. I hated Steinbrenner’s Yankees mostly because MLB wouldn’t let him purchase my Indians first. R.I.P., George.
Heres’s a link of a dual memorial.
As a Cub fan, I thought it always bothered me that The Boss bought his way into championships.
Now, I wish he had been the one steering the ship in Chicago the past 30 years.
One. Common. Goal.
Win
(and they did)
also…in terms of multiple memorials..
how can we forget the good old NFL…
didn’t the patriots have like three the year the nfl did the 21 sticker thing?
That second link wasn’t working for me. Can I assume it’s a pic of the Gene Upshaw memorial?
Duh.. that was only one. Never mind.
Hey Phil… wouldn’t that Browns shot (if the sleeves had been showing) technically have three memorials if you include the “AL” on the sleeve?
That Saints pic up top looks so much better than what they wear today:
– full length pants;
– actual sleeves;
– better shades of gold;
– great striping and decal; and
– proper facemask color.
The only flaw would be those odd tv numbers.
So simple. So logical.
BETTER SHADE OF GOLD being the MOST IMPORTANT item in the very well-stated list of the Old Saints’ unis.
NFL Films question: That pic with Bobby Douglass… is the coach he’s speaking with the “They’re killin’ me, Whitey… they’re KILLIN’ me!” guy?
No, that was Abe Gibron. At the beginning of the video, he sings “Jeremiah was a bullfrog” (from “Joy to the World” by Three Dog Night). Buffalo Bills coach Lou Saban was the one who said “They’re killin’ me Whitey, they’re killin’ me.” (Whitey was assistant coach Whitey Dovell.)
Oops…Lou Saban was the Denver Broncos’ head coach at the time (1969 season). The Bobby Douglass/Abe Gibron pic was from the Bears at Broncos game in 1973.
“Whoa, they don’t make coaches like this anymore.”
Someone hasn’t been watching Kansas football much over the past few years.
He’s no longer coaching.
link still is.
See Reid, Andy
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Yeah, that’s why I said the past few years.
how about Maryland’s Ralph Friedgen:
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Haha, ronnie. I was going to post that exact photo. I guess I should have read the site earlier in the day today.
Be a shame to overlook Rex Ryan in this disussion, wouldn’t it?
—Ricko
I don’t know much about the Seattle Pilots, but that image of the coffee mug in Collector’s Corner made me wonder why the team name seemingly referred to airplane pilots (e.g.: “scrambled eggs” on cap brim), yet the logo on the mug features a ship’s wheel. Are they boat Pilots instead? Have I assumed incorrectly all these years or is this just a crappy knock-off mug that got it wrong?
Nope, you’re right. The Pilots used both airline pilot and ship pilot iconography. Neither here nor there. Never liked it – a muddy identity is generally speaking a bad one.
Actually, until the mark-200 series of the 747 in 1976, commercial aircraft used ship’s wheels for rudder control.
Still with me? No?
OK, for real, a “pilot” originally referred to someone who guides ships through difficult or crowded waters, such as those in most commercial ports, such as for example Puget Sound and the Port of Seattle. A pilot is typically a local mariner who apprenticed with older pilots to learn all the ins-and-outs of a specific waterway; as a seagoing ship approaches port, it signals for a pilot who comes on board and takes over command of the ship until it reaches port.
I’ve always figured that the Pilots kind of did double-duty in referencing both Seattle’s maritime heritage and also its more recent aviation industry.
This type of confusion is what the Pilots did well. Their 1969 season ticket brochure, had Joe Schultz and coaches piloting a tug with a jet airplane in the background. It was the 60s man, jets were cool. But the tugboat? Classic.
“The Pilots used both airline pilot and ship pilot iconography.”
“I’ve always figured that the Pilots kind of did double-duty in referencing both Seattle’s maritime heritage and also its more recent aviation industry.”
“Their 1969 season ticket brochure, had Joe Schultz and coaches piloting a tug with a jet airplane in the background.”
Makes sense to me! Clever, yet muddy. Thanks all!
Oddly enough, I had a conversation with my wife about this line of thinking a couple nights ago. Fill in the blanks:
(Voice over intercom) “Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is your ________ speaking …”
The man or woman who sits next to the person flying the plane, and who is there to take control of the flying of the plane as needed is the co-________.
Why do you have a captain and a co-pilot? Would captain and co-captain or pilot and co-pilot seem to make more sense?
Speaking of co-pilots, it was a great name for link at the time.
Ironically, with Newark being an aviation center and all, they seem to have gone whole-heartedly with the nautical theme.
It now seems to be captain and first officer.
JimWa: link.
And those Brickhouse memorial patches looked pretty good on the link. On the blue alts? link
Look at that last photo: Shin guards?
shin guards…maybe
looks like pre-projectile vomit tho
I had a similar reaction.
Definitely looks like shin guards to me. The elasticized bottoms of the pantlegs don’t even seem to be making contact with Tapani’s ankles.
Man, you guys never played baseball. That big ridge around the calf is where the top of the stirrup is. Add that to the top elastic band on the sanitaries and you get that pronounced ridge. Some guys even rolled the two together to keep them in place. I suggest you watch Mr. Baseball or even Major League and note the sock layering in the lockeroom scenes.
This is a shin guard under some pre-2000 skin tight pants:
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Danny Jackson was famous for wearing a shin pad on his right leg because when he followed through, he’d bang his left arm into his right shin. And no, I can’t explain the picture. DJ was nuts.
Yeah, right, Phil … if a Cubs pitcher puked everytime something bad happened, they’d have to redesign every MLB ballpark’s infield drainage system.
You’re right. I never played baseball… in skin-tight pants.
Whatever. Maybe you’re right. But Tapani’s pants don’t even appear to be that tight in that pic EXCEPT AROUND HIS CALVES. Here’s link, clearly from a different game that same season. Same thing — a bit baggy around the thighs and ankles/tight around the visible (and seemingly shinguard-shaped) calf.
I’ve never heard of baseball players wearing shin guards under their pants, but Paul got in touch with Scott Erickson pretty quickly about his socks. Maybe a call to Kevin Tapani is in order?
Didnt the Jays have two a couple yrs ago too, Tom Cheek and someone else?
As a sign artist, I’m doubly interested in this shot — for the football unis/helmets AND the sweet hand-lettered wall signs!!!
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-Jet
In case no one noticed last night, Will Ferrell was wearing an old, cloth patch on his sport coat of Bobby Grich, former 2nd-baseman for the Angels.
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Now, I have seen these patched on eBay, and on here, but I have never seen on “used”. I think it is cool he did add the patch to his jacket, but it has me wondering what you were supposed to do with them, and if anyone ever had them when they were kids?
Another example of the “tequilla sunrise” look – the ’88 Wyoming Cowboys basketball jersey.
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Fennis Dembo!
Someone else is using “the” in their branding (going back to the NBA all-star unis with “The East” and “The West”)
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I like it!
Not sure about the color choices, but I like that they incorporated a forward moving arrow into an already iconic branding. Nobody’s ever managed to do that before, have they? If you have an example, please Fed Ex it to me ASAP!
Fed-Ex… LOL. Good one.
Dolphins fan here, I was going through old clips when I noticed something odd
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In 1995, it looks like the Dolphins started “modernizing” the logo. Look at midfield, and the hoop is the current modern hoop but the dolphin is the classic design. I had never noticed this before.
I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that the Yanks will put “GMS” on their sleeve for the passing of The Boss. They Yanks have never done double armbands, but have used uni numbers on the sleeve to honor players, DiMaggio, Mantle, Rizzuto. DiMaggio’s #5 was positioned above a black arm band..
Nothing official about the “GMS”, just a thought.
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DiMaggio’s #5 was positioned above a black arm band.
Not originally. It started as just a “5.” The armband was added when Catfish Hunter died.
Will there be something to memorialize George Steinbrenner on the Yankee home uniforms tonight in the ASG?
I wouldn’t be shocked to see them go with the armband for Bob Sheppard and put George’s initials in the middle of the ‘Y’ on the jersey, similar to the pink and blue ribbons. Different from what they have done in the past for a man who was one of a kind.
not to toot my own horn…
CHeck out this picture fron today Chicago Tribune(if you get the photo gallery, look at picture #31)
George Steinbrenner as the Ends Coach for the Northwestern Wildcats
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was looking through the Dbacks farm system news and saw this picture. i really hate the button down jerseys
Well, I think that looks great. I LOVE button down jerseys – and belted pants. It’s not baseball without them.
the button down jersey is NOT the problem
the problem is the
slobgentleman who doesn’t know how to actually, ya know…BUTTON itI’ll post this down here, too, since it may be informative to those unfamiliar with some aspects of copyright law.
“The original is not being sold by its creator and thus does not infringe on the Blackhawks’ business. It is simply an original interpretation of the Blackhawks’ identity created by a fan for personal use, which is fair. Ivall (the fan) owns the copyright to that work, which is also fair. For example, the Blackhawks would need to compensate Ivall should they ever wish to use the bird logo. Just because it’s a ‘Blackhawks logo’ does not mean that the Blackhawks own the right to it.
However, that does not mean that Ivall is free to sell this image willy nilly in the marketplace. I believe the visual language contained in it is too indebted to the Blackhawks’ own logo and would be violating copyright law should another team wish to adopt the bird logo for full-time use (unless the team was affiliated with the Blackhawks or something). Either way, it would need approval from the team/league to appear in the marketplace as the identity of another team.
What is true, though, is that anyone selling the bird logo without Ivall’s permission is in violation of copyright law since they did not create the image. Furthermore, anyone (including Ivall) selling the bird logo and representing it as Blackhawks’ merchandise is in violation of copyright law unless they own a license and have approval from the team/league to produce the merchandise. These perople, like the shirt company, are likely infringing on both the copyright of Ivall and the business of the Blackhawks and the NHL.”
So just to clarify – if Ivall enters into an agreement with the “Fighting Falcons” that involves some sort of compensation to Ivall, is he then indebted in some way to the Blackhawks?
I think there are 2 separate issues. Let’s leave the Blackhawks out of the picture for a moment. A logo was designed by an artist. A team with no connection to the artist sees logo and decides to reproduce it. The team is wrong for using someone else’s artistic production without permission to do so.
An artist creates, for his own personal enjoyment, what he believes would be a better rendition or re-imagining of a logo ( a tweak ). He shows it to the world. No crime has been committed.
You are correct. I don’t think Ivall could sell this mark to another team, though, because the visual language of it is too similar to the Blackhawks’ logo, which I think is what Jim BC is getting at. If Ivall accepts money for this logo, I think he’d likely be in trouble as well. I could be wrong on that because the form of the two images is so different, but I don’t feel the concept of it is separate enough from the Blackhawks to ever be sold to a team without proper approval from the Blackhawks.
Hey, I’ve actually got some link to the Uni Watch community.
Good news, indeed.
… though I can’t help but ask … Nothing was stolen, and no damage was done. Any chance this was a case of, “Dude! Where’s my music van???”
Was it easier to find that most vans because it glowed in the dark?
—Ricko
Looking at the set list, I was not aware that Milwaukee had been moved to Illinois.
It has been. Just ask the Astros.
Another headline from today…
“Gusher turning point? BP set to test new cap”
Hmm…fitted or adjustable?
—Ricko
Yeah, when I saw BP and cap in the same headline in the paper, my first thought was of these link
In either case, rumor has is they’re going to change out the BP cap next year for an uglier model, and do the same the year after, and the same the year after …
fitted… afterall, it IS one of those hideous “BP” caps that we all hate. hee hee
Just hope it’s not a mesh trucker cap.
So while looking through a memorial gallery of The Boss today (rest in peace, George), I noticed something that I haven’t seen before. It is a shot of Doc throwing a warmup with Billy Connors and George watching in the background. Only Billy Connors is wearing a white crowned (and possibly pinstriped) with navy brim Yankees hat. The picture is dated as taken on 10/23/1995.
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According to William Henderson’s guide, the full button down BP shown in the image wasn’t worn until two years later in 1997. I understand that sometimes the dating in uniform guides can’t be 100% accurate, but still, was there actually a time where the Yankees coaching staff went like the A’s and wore white hats? Or did Billy Connors just feel very balls-y and wore something not sanctioned as an official part of the uniform RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BOSS? I don’t ever remember seeing the Yankees coaches wearing white caps during the this time period, but then again if the date on that picture is correct I would have only been 11 at the time. Thoughts?
Date seems odd.
Everything about that photo says “Spring Training”, from the setting to so much sunlight throughout. The kind of light you get in wide open spaces, not in a typical MLB stadium/ballpark.
Which could make it a spring training coaches cap they might have messed with at one time?
—Ricko
The picture does say that it was from the spring training complex in Tampa, and I believe Doc didn’t make an appearance as a Yankee until ’96 anyway, so maybe they are just 6 months off on the dating. Still, I never remembered anyone actually employed by the team going with the white crown. Thanks for your thoughts everyone.
The hat wasn’t part of the major league staff’s unis but I’ve seen some of the guys working with the minor league guys wearing it during Spring Training.
I own one of those white/blue bill fitted New Era Yankee caps that coaches wore during spring training in the late 1990’s. It’s pretty sharp looking, and I’m not really a Yankee fan.
Shep and the Boss in the same week.
They say these things come in threes.
Makes you wonder…?
—Ricko
The original ballpark was the first loss in my book.
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The man on the far left in this picture is:
A. A Major League Baseball Umpire
B. Terry Francona
C. Bill Belichick
D. Obviously from 1985
E. All of the Above
F. ___________________
I’ve just whipped up a quick ESPN item on multiple-memorial situations:
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Haha…From the comments on the ESPN piece:
“It should be a patch showing a free agent being offered 25% more than he’s worth.”
That got a laugh from me.
Egad. I usually try to avoid superlatives, but that Reading Phillies getup is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.
/bracing myself for stiff drink(s)
New Middlesbrough shirts link
Actually looks good. But I suspect it’ll be completely ruined by some lame sponsor logo across the chest.
It was nice to see the World Cup uniforms showcase the team, not a random sponsor (apparel company excluded).
Great article. I really liked the “RED/2” patch the Bulls had for Norm van Lier and Johnny “Red” Kerr.
I’m hoping the Yanks aren’t scaling down what they were going to do for Bob Sheppard. A little microphone would look pretty classy on one sleeve (maybe with “BOB”), maybe a “GMS” in a black box on the other.
I had colorized that USC 1929 picture before. Here it is again.
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fantastic job! i’ve recently started messing around with this technique using photoshop and i have yet to find an easy approach! if i can figure out a way to save masks in a more convenient/effective way i think it would go much smoother… anyway, top-notch job!
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it is a nice job…
as far as colorization goes, i’ve been doing it now for some time and it’s all a matter of three things:
practice, practice, practice
and patience
i actually use gimp (which i think is even better than photoshop)…you need to work in multiple layers and keep playing with the opacity…and have lots of patience
eventually tho, you can come up with something like this
i think that took me two hours
did i mention you need a lot of patience?
ha ha ha – now you’re just showing off! what a great job, what a great effect! i’ve messed around with gimp as well but prefer photoshop – but for the “price” there’s no comparison when it comes to gimp! there are many online tutorials for this process although techniques can vary quite a bit – just haven’t found one that i really like working with… not looking for a 10 minute shortcut mind you, just looking for the best way to skin the cat… i’ll keep at it – your latest example has certainly fueled my motivation…
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re: namath in the red jersey and “logo-less” helmet. it is indeed a photo of namath during the 1968 afl east/west allstar classic, played on 01/19/69, just one week after namath led the jets to their improbable super bowl 3 victory over the heavily favored baltimore colts.
further, that’s the same helmet namath wore in the super bowl and, as someone mentioned, that is indeed tape from the green stripes of his jets helmet that can be seen in the photo.
all of this is particularly interesting given that two years ago a major sports memorabilia auction house offered what they claimed was namath’s sb3 helmet which namath gave to an adoring fan immediately following the game. the opening bid was set at $50,000 and it was billed “as one of the most significant and important memorabilia piece to have ever surfaced” – most expected it to sell in the 6 figures.
however the auction house was forced to pull the helmet when it was discovered that it wasn’t namath’s sb3 helmet – in fact it was discovered that it wasn’t even a helmet namath wore. anyway these photos of namath in the allstar game further show that the helmet namath wore in that historical sb3 game, as it was when it left the field that day, is gone forever…
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did someone mention no-pants-lance (rentzel)?
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Never thought I’d complain about someone NOT wearing today’s BP caps, but watching last night’s highlights, I saw (at least) four of the competetors going cap-less. Has this become more common at the HRD in recent years?
I know, I know … it’s not a real game, the uniforms don’t matter … but if they came out in jeans and t-shirts, would that not have made news around here? If an MLB player is participating in an MLB-sanctioned event (espcially one that charges for admission, as I can only assume is done here), shouldn’t they at least make an attempt to outfit themselves appropriately?
I agree. I don’t think helmets are required for the Derby, but the players should at least wear their regular team cap, not the ugly BP hat. This lets the casual fan associate the player with his regular team, and a unique identity. How many regular Joes know where Chris Young or Vernon Wells play? Something more than that tiny sleeve patch (which was hidden on the right-handed batters).
yeah, that’s a rawlings “ridge” hnd9 helmet that richard todd is sporting in that photo – a handful of guys wore these short-lived helmets back in the day. they have since become one of the most desirable vintage helmets among football helmet collectors and, given their true rarity, usually fetch solid prices at auction…
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Just for the record, people, the “robert” who posted the comment seen above (and several of today’s other comments) is Robert Harvell himself. Let’s please thank him for sharing his amazing trove of imagery with us!
thank you robert!
great, great stuff, and a wonderful treat for you to share it with us
Great pictures Robert. The Princeton color shot is probably my favorite.
I have that Gimp too but have not really used it much for colorizing. I should try it more.
ot – speaking of graphics software such as gimp and photoshop, have you guys ever seen the “speed painting” work by graphics software guru nico di mattia? here are a couple of his available online examples:
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ps – best to maximize the above referenced videos when viewing…
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Wow Phil great work on the White Sox unis. Awesome
It looks like the Yankees have already started a small tribute. I was just watching SportsCenter and Derek Jeter had a black stripe around his left sleeve. It seems like some sort of symbol for the Boss.
It replicates a mourning band.
Before patches became tres chic it was the usual way teams noted the passing of someone important to the franchise.
From one of the online dictionaries…
“mourning band – a black band worn by a man (on the arm or hat) as a sign of mourning.”
—Ricko
HELP!
Not to change from today’s topis, but does anybody know the correct product name for the heavy mock turtleneck warm-up sweatshirts that were used by many coaches and teams from the 1940s-1980s, similar to that worn by Ara Parseghian and Lou Holtz, and shown in last week’s photo with the 1960s Green Bay Packers.
Are these items still made and sold by team outfitters?
Help, anybody. I’ve been looking to buy one for 15 years.
If you haven’t already done so, go to the home page for an update.
found this on wikipedia. things that have been discussed a lot on here already, pretty cool to see it in list form online (although without pics). not sure if it is comprehensive of everything the UW readers have noticed however.
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3 quick ASG notes. The Yankees got those armbands on the jerseys pretty quick. Nice blousing by HanRam. Sweet belt0line on Charlie Manuel.
Suggestion: Let’s move the discussion about the All-Star Game to the newly posted entry about the Yanks’ memorial patches. Start posting comments there for the rest of the evening, OK? OK.
all the batters are wearing he new s100 batting helmets
The MiniGazoo?
Yea the MiniGazoo but only the NL is wearing them
Ah, so in the context of the losing streak they’re like rally caps.
Are Price’s shoes powder blue? Looks like they might be.
Nope. Just so bright white they turn kinda blue in the shadows.
Ubaldo Jimenez looks like Angel Macias, the pitching star for the 1955 Little League World Champions who wore white tennies.
—Ricko
Simply, fantastic photograph here: link
I’ve seen Point Beer in our local store here in St. Cloud, Minnesota, for a couple of years now. I’ve bought a couple six-packs of various styles, and it’s pretty good stuff.
Good to hear my hometown is pleasuring Minnesota in some way.
You asked for All Star photos? It’s probably already been discussed, but these striped socks take first place:
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Great Clemson uni discussion on the link. At least Coach Dabo gets it, tweaking the unis back to sensibility.
’64 Astros sticker? They were still the Colt 45s in ’64.