Time for another round of classic NFL photos by David Boss. Without further ado:
• God, this Rams uni looks just about Perfect, no? The deeper blue, the soft gold pants stripe, the white-laced high-tops. Deelish.
• Speaking of the Rams, it just never seems right to see Joe Willie in this uniform.
• Here’s a decent shot of the NFL’s 50th-anniversary patch. I also like the yellow elbow pad.
• As much as I like the NFL stripes on the pants in that last shot, I think I like this earlier Packers striping even more.
• Was Vince Lombardi wearing a UCLA visor?
• Surpring to me that anyone was still using an old-fashioned leather chinstrap in 1965. Makes an odd counterpoint to that cheapo-looking white-plastic facemask that so many of the Bears wore during this period.
• I always loved watching John Jefferson — and yes, that was in part because of his goggles.
• On the other hand, I always hated — hated — the Seahawks’ mesh jerseys. Looked too NCAA. C’mon, you’re a pro team, dress like one!
• One great strength of the Boss archive is that it has lots of color photos from early Pro Bowls, so we can see that the East and West squads wore simple blue and red uniforms in 1959 (note the blue/red goalposts!), 1960 (additional images here and here, more colored goalposts, and it looks like they just spray-painted over Jim Brown’s helmet TV numbers), 1963 (here’s another shot), and 1965 (here’s one more). Note that the East wore red and the West wore white in all of these games, regardless of whether it was an even- or odd-numbered year. Apparently that was just the way it always went.
• By the late 1960s, the Pro Bowl helmes had changed to gold with the NFL logo. (You can see a color version of these helmets here and here.)
And there we are. My continued thanks to Michael Princip for first alerting me to the Boss archive.
Helmet news, batting and otherwise: Spoke yesterday with Rawlings marketing exec Mike Thompson, who informed me that the “new” batting helmets I wrote about on Monday are actually the same old S100s from last year. “When it has the double earflaps, it does look smaller, so it’s a bit deceiving,” he said. “We’re working on a revision to the S100, which should be ready in about 60 days, but right now they only have the basic S100.”
Hmmm. So Norris Hopper and Kevin Mench (and some other players who I haven’t kept track of) just decided to try out the S100 on their own? “Yes,” he said. “And I’ve gotta tell you, there’s been no influence from us on that — that’s been all on their own.” Interesting. (Oh, and this just in: Francisco Cervelli is the latest S100 player.)
Meanwhile, I also asked Thompson about something a little birdie had told me earlier in the day, namely that Rawlings was planning to re-enter the football helmet biz with this helmet design. “Yes, that’s accurate,” he said. “It’s not going to be out until 2011. Most likely we’re going to seed some to high school programs around the country in the latter part of this year, but we won’t have a comprehensive program until 2011.”
And does Rawlings, which hasn’t been involved in the gridiron helmet market since the mid-1980s, plan to get back involved on the college and pro levels as well? “Eventually,” he said. “But we’re going where the numbers are, and the market right now is so much bigger on the youth side of the business.”
It’s delightful, it’s delicious, it’s Duluth: As most of you know, next week I’ll be competing in the House of Hearts Bonspiel at the Duluth Curling Club (and thanks to Phil, who’s given me an early birthday present, I’ll be wearing this sweater — thanks, buddy!). Several of you have asked if I’ll be convening a Uni Watch party while I’m in town. My dance card is pretty full, so I don’t think I’ll have time for a gathering at a bar or anything like that, but I encourage any of you in the area to come watch the bonspiel, which will be taking place next Friday (3pm to 9pm) and Saturday (11am to 8pm). Of course, anyone can attend any part of the ’spiel, but it might be nice to pick a day and time when Uni Watch readers can gather together at the club, yes? If this interests you, send me a note with your preferred day and time period (“Saturday, mid-afternoon,” or whatever). Whatever turns out to be the most popular choice, I’ll post that early next week and you can all meet up then. Cool?
And before you ask, I don’t yet know which team I’ll be on, which draw I’ll be in, etc., so I can’t tell you exactly when I’ll be curling. But I’ll try to keep everyone posted on that as the information becomes available to me.
Finally, one last ’spiel appeal: The House of Hearts is a charity event to benefit the St. Luke’s medical foundation. Many of you have already contributed small amounts to help sponsor me in the bonspiel. If anyone else would like to contribute ($5 is fine, although larger amounts are also welcome, of course), go to Amazon Payments and either log in to your existing Amazon account or, if you don’t have one, create a new Amazon account. Once you’re logged in, click on “Personal” and then on “Send Money,” and send whatever amount you deem appropriate to plukas64 at gmail dot com. Put “House of Hearts” in the memo line. Thanks.
Self-Promotion Alert: I’ll be doing a 10-minute interview this morning on ESPN Radio in Milwaukee, talking about the Packers’ new alternate uniform, which will be unveiled later this afternoon. My segment will begin at 10:30am local (central) time. Those of you who don’t live in Milwaukee are missing out on America’s coolest city can listen to streaming audio here.
Uni Watch News Ticker: As many of us had speculated, this year’s MLB stars/stripes caps will be white — sort of. The crown will be white, but not every team will have the same visor color, and the visors won’t necessarily be team colors. That’s all I know for now. Further details as I get them. ”¦ Here’s a cool video of the Celtics’ 2008 championship banner being made (with thanks to Rick Subrizio). ”¦ UW-Eau Claire is on the verge of choosing a new mascot (with thanks to Joel Mathwig). ”¦ If you go to this link and click on “2010 Home Opener,” you’ll see lots of pics of Virginia Tech doing the tequila sunrise thing again. ”¦ Todd Eggert sent along some cool photos of himself working behind the scenes at Wrigley Field. “I worked for the Cubs part-time until two seasons ago,” he says. “The locker room we used was the old Cubs and Bears locker room that was positioned in the far left field corner (pre-dugout tunnel era). The lockers are original and date way back. The room you see is what is attached to our locker room — it hasn’t been updated/cleaned probably since the park opened. Notice in the scoreboard picture with the fan, you will see a small TV (with rabbit ears) and a ‘line to line’ printer — the printer would always be printing off little paper updates from MLB. The guys working in the scoreboard would use this info to update the scores. The Cubs were so cheap we would often run out of toner and would have to use a land line to obtain scores from the guys watching ESPN in our locker room.” ”¦ Peter Kurilecz reports that the West Bromwich Albion wore an anti-smoking logo on their jerseys in 1984. ”¦ New red soccer balls for the Premier League (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ Lance Smith reports that the Rochester Lourdes (Class A Minnesota boys hockey) are wearing some very odd socks. Additional photos here and here. ”¦ The Cedar Rapids Roughriders are doing an ALS-awareness promotion, complete with Lou Gehrig-themed hockey jerseys (with thanks to Bill Mitchell). ”¦ Chris Jones has been wearing Chucks for his club lacrosse team. “I loved playing in them,” he sais. “Very light, felt like I was playing in bare feet, no ankle issues or anything either, at least not for me.” ”¦ Speaking of Chucks, check out this handball team. That shot is from the 1958 World Series of handball. I definitely need one of those shirts (great stuff from Jeremy Brahm). … Mike Hersh has been traveling in Vancouver, where he spotted a rotating sign that he knew I’d like. The flying pigs of value are a particularly nice touch. ”¦ Lots to like in this video clip of the NHL’s 1991 opening night, which was the league’s 75th-anniversary season. Lots of throwbacks, a color-on-color game, officials wearing wheat-colored sweaters, hilarious commentary, and more. Almost eight minutes long and totally worth it — highly recommended (very nice find by Steve May). ”¦ “I noticed the U. of Texas basketball team had a few mid-season uni number changes,” writes Ryan Maquinana. “After the season-ending injury bug hit Varez Ward and Dogus Balbay, who wore No. 50 and No. 4, respectively, two of their teammates took on their numbers. Gary Johnson, formerly No. 1, switched to No. 4 in honor of Balbay. And J’Covan Brown, who had worn No. 14, now wears Ward’s No. 50.” ”¦ The Yokohama Bay Stars will be wearing gold stars on their shoulders for Opening Day (thanks, Jeremy). ”¦ Jeremy also found some amazing softball photos in the Life archives. Highlights include a zebra-striped ump, a team wearing satin pants, a team with a question mark insignia, an awesome set of bell-themed uni numbers, a team of clowns (no, really), and some great rear-jersey sponsors, including an alarm service, a funeral home, and an antiseptic powder. … When you’re sitting out a lengthy suspension, you have time to ponder the larger issues in your life, like changing your uniform number.
Paul: Just a quick glitch in the Pro Bowl copy: the East always wore red, the West always wore white, not vice versa.
That $ave On Meats store in Vancouver was featured on Anthony Bourdain’s No Reservations.
As many of us had speculated, this year’s MLB stars/stripes caps will be white – sort of. The crown will be white, but not every team will have the same visor color, and the visors won’t necessarily be team colors.
what the hell does that mean? the fathers might be wearing something like this?
Paul,
Those Bears helmets and facemasks were usually made by Wilson as Papa Bear Halas had some connection to Wilson (who were based in Chicago, Illinois). The photo shows a Wilson model F2004 suspension helmet with Wilson’s white nylon two bar facemask. It was a version of Riddell’s more famous grey two bar mask (BD9).
As far as the chin strap goes I believe that is a Wilson as well but Riddell offered their leather chin straps through the early 60’s, while MacGregor (which later became Kelley) offered a leather cupped, chin strap (E55) into the early eighties.
So visiting teams, probably wearing all gray unis (or a dark colored top and gray pants) will have to wear a white-crowned hat? I will now take this opportunity to used today’s Urban Dictionary “word of the day”: that’s cray cray.
White is not a great color, especially when you consider these hats are all about selling merch to raise money. White gets dirty easily, and not everyone wants to walk around in a giant, white, structured 5950.
White hats don’t go with gray unis!
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Do Mets fans really want to see this again (except this time the Wilpons will make sure the brim is black, not blue)?
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Bad link to Mets white hat. Sorry. Here it is:
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[quote comment=”381441″]Bad link to Mets white hat. Sorry. Here it is:
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Good Lord. It’s a conspiracy.
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Nice to see Rawlings back in the football helmet biz. I wore a Rawlings my junior year in high school. Most comfortable football helmet I ever wore.
The Maxpro I wore the following year…wasn’t.
hey jonathon…
when i did that post bemoaning the wearing of last year’s red caps for memorial day, i came up with this for the marlins…(kind of as a preemptive strike) for 2010
just a guess at the time, but maybe not too far off…what do you think of the fish wearing that?
Ricko,
Sorry so late in responding to the Blier / Bradshaw mystery cleats. I checked my archives and found what I thought were the cleats in question, the Riddell Snug LIft. The Snug Lift used the same idea of \’snugging\’ the shoe as the Snug Tie model but the Snug Lift had about an inch wide strap in the arch area, on both sides of the shoe. It was sewn into the sole of the shoe and pulled up and tied into the laces mid way up the foot.
I was wrong. They are in fact from a Canadian company called Acton. I won\’t go into more details as I don\’t want to ruin what could be a great Uni story for Paul (who provided me the info) and his Acton cleat source.
That NHL Opening Night guy is wearing a skinny tie in 1991.
“Here’s a cool video of the Celtics’ 2008 championship banner being made”
I’m really confused by this….it looks like they sew on the green layer using the letter pattern as a guide, and then trim off the excess fabric. This seems so weird to me…I’ve made banners. You cut out the individual letters first and then sew them on top of the white. Maybe it has something to do with the type of material?
Management and journalists … two great tastes that taste great together …
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[quote comment=”381444″]hey jonathon…
when i did that post bemoaning the wearing of last year’s link, i came up with link…(kind of as a preemptive strike) for 2010
just a guess at the time, but maybe not too far off…what do you think of the fish wearing that?[/quote]
They’ll probably use a black brim, not teal, but I’m just opposed to the white caps for the road team. Florida visits the White Sox for Memorial Day Weekend. Pair that cap with their gray unis, or the black alt and gray pants. I don’t think it will look good at all.
I really think they should forget about changing the color of the hat. If you want to make the hat logo all “stars and stripes-y” that’s fine, but don’t make a team with black and teal colors wear hats that are navy, red or white.
Not only the excellent 75th anniversary throwbacks in the 1991 NHL Opening Night video, but classic venues! The Forum, The Garden and The Stadium, all in 8 VHS-taped minutes! I love it.
Going to re-post this early, in hopes that no one interested will miss it.
You can watch the deservedly famous Minnesota State High School Hockey tournament live online at…
45.grandstadium.tv
As you can tell from this story, it’s attracted a few fans over the years…
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Today’s startribune link (enough uni shots to make it worthwhile)..
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—Ricko
And MLB will have run through the flag colors after this year. Do they go back to navy or red, or do they try and find something else?
Who’s ready for a digital camo 5950? That’s my guess for 2011.
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I guess it would work for San Diego, but that’s about it. : )
WHOA!!!
Make that…
45.grandstadium.tv
Sorry
–Ricko
I hate vertical striping on hockey socks with a passion. How can you just trash 100 years of sock design tradition? I think they’re even worse than Cooperalls.
Love that Packer uni from the Boss Files. Love the 1958 handball World Series. Love the sweater Phil gave Paul. [Is that Phil modeling it?] Love the softball photos from the Life archives, especially the clown team and the shirt with the name of the antiseptic powder on the back. Hate the whole Memorial Day cap shtick. Big kiss.
As ridiculous as most of those stars-and-stripes look, they *can* be decent-looking if the team’s colors are red, white, and blue.
I think the Cubs could look pretty spiffy if they put blue pinstripes on the hat to go with the jersey. Kind of like the link and link used to have.
Of course, what would be even better would be for the Cubs to bring out the link again, or something similal, without pinstripes, and then wear un-striped white hats with those.
The teams without red or blue in their colors just look silly in those patriotic caps. But the Cubs, Dodgers, and Rangers, among others, have the potential to look great.
Great photos. Flat-out love that Rams uniform – slap that sucker on the modern template and they’re ready to go.
I have some pictures of link on my blog – apparently they didn’t just spray gold over Jim Brown’s helmet numbers, but also team logos(!).
Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet
Cool…
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Plus, it gives us an idea of what Pacman Curling might have looked like.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381456″]As ridiculous as most of those stars-and-stripes look, they *can* be decent-looking if the team’s colors are red, white, and blue.
I think the Cubs could look pretty spiffy if they put blue pinstripes on the hat to go with the jersey. Kind of like the link and link used to have.
Of course, what would be even better would be for the Cubs to bring out the link again, or something similal, without pinstripes, and then wear un-striped white hats with those.
The teams without red or blue in their colors just look silly in those patriotic caps. But the Cubs, Dodgers, and Rangers, among others, have the potential to look great.[/quote]
I agree, for certain teams the colors match up. I think the Braves, Nats and Red Sox also qualify.
I think I found a pic that shows what it might look like for the Braves. But I reiterate that it will look much better on the home team than the visitor.
This is Tommy Hanson while playing for Class A Danville:
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[quote comment=”381457″]Great photos. Flat-out love that Rams uniform – slap that sucker on the modern template and they’re ready to go.
I have some pictures of link on my blog – apparently they didn’t just spray gold over Jim Brown’s helmet numbers, but also team logos(!).[/quote]
Yup, was SOP to spray paint all the players helmets for the Pro Bowl back then…going back to the red helmet, blue helmet games.
Think about it.
Who’s gonna go to the expense of new helmets for one game, especially when they’d have to be exact sizes and different brands, with particular facemasks, etc., and you don’t know the players all that far in advance? And where would players find the time (or want to take the time) to break in a new helmet for one game? Isn’t a professional player alive who’ll wear any old helmet handed to him, especially after just playing a full season.
Logistic and financial nightmare. Cans of spray paint much cheaper.
—Ricko
This LIFE photo with the satin pants is in-friggin-credible:
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REALLY tells a story. And is that a satin cap as well?
This clown picture is absolutely bizarro. I either love it or am terrified by it.
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Any one else find the picture of the “clown” softball team a little disturbing? Especially the kid in front…
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Haha…I guess I’m not the only one.
Is that Cubs ’48 throwback the inspiration for the Giants new hosiery?
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Liked the softball unis! My brother-in-law’s family had a funeral home and sponsored a basketball team. The name? Pino’s Casketeers! He and my sister once had to deliver a body to an airport for shipment home and they happened to be on thier way to a game. They didn’t understand the looks they were getting until they realized what they were wearing! I may have an old jersey around. If so, I’ll send in a photo.
[quote comment=”381454″]I hate vertical striping on hockey socks with a passion. How can you just trash 100 years of sock design tradition? I think they’re even worse than Cooperalls.[/quote]
Given those two choices, yeah. I’d take the Cooperalls.
It’s one thing when a single team does something like that (the original AFL Broncos, for ex.) and it becomes a kind of trademark…even it it is a bad design.
But when “Monkey see, monkey do” kicks in on bad concept…yuck.
A phenomenon fairly well illustrated by…well, Cooperalls. lol
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381455″] Love the sweater Phil gave Paul. [Is that Phil modeling it?] [/quote]
HAH!
i haven’t had that much hair since that hairstyle was first in style…
brawling scratches mean a bad hair day
[quote comment=”381458″]Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet[/quote]
Nuh-uh. Craig MacTavish.
Anybody here aware they are making a biopic of Vince Lombardi. Title = LOMBARDI & Robert DeNiro = Vince
[quote comment=”381465″]Is that Cubs ’48 throwback the inspiration for the Giants new hosiery?
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Maybe. To a baseball exec who doesn’t know his own team’s history, anyway.
Three equal stripes not exactly ground-breaking, of course.
More likely it’s the 1947 (and ’48, I believe) Giants, when first going to orange and black after WWII years of red, white and blue (I’d link to that particular uni at Dressed to The Nines—which I did over the weekend—but the site isn’t cooperating just now).
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381470″]Anybody here aware they are making a biopic of Vince Lombardi. Title = LOMBARDI & Robert DeNiro = Vince[/quote]
Yup. I believe ESPN is producing it.
[quote comment=”381472″][quote comment=”381470″]Anybody here aware they are making a biopic of Vince Lombardi. Title = LOMBARDI & Robert DeNiro = Vince[/quote]
Yup. I believe ESPN is producing it.[/quote]
Think “Sunshine” from REMEMBER THE TITANS should play Paul Hornung?
[quote]I agree, for certain teams the colors match up. I think the Braves, Nats and Red Sox also qualify.
I think I found a pic that shows what it might look like for the Braves. But I reiterate that it will look much better on the home team than the visitor.[/quote]
War Damn Eagle, I forgot about the Nats! They also look fine, and would the Red Sox and Yankees, with their darker blue.
Maybe one solution for the road team would be to put them in colored jerseys and white pants. The Cubs played like this all through link and looked just fine. (Mane Japanese teams, like the link, still do this, and look great.
The white pants would have to be un-pinstriped, though, so some teams might have to have new pants made up.
Most teams have a non-gray colored jersey that could be worn on the road, right? The only exception I can think of offhand is the Yankees. Do the Phillies have a red non-BP jersey? How about the Cardinals?
[quote comment=”381461″][quote comment=”381457″]Great photos. Flat-out love that Rams uniform – slap that sucker on the modern template and they’re ready to go.
I have some pictures of link on my blog – apparently they didn’t just spray gold over Jim Brown’s helmet numbers, but also team logos(!).[/quote]
Yup, was SOP to spray paint all the players helmets for the Pro Bowl back then…going back to the red helmet, blue helmet games.
Think about it.
Who’s gonna go to the expense of new helmets for one game, especially when they’d have to be exact sizes and different brands, with particular facemasks, etc., and you don’t know the players all that far in advance? And where would players find the time (or want to take the time) to break in a new helmet for one game? Isn’t a professional player alive who’ll wear any old helmet handed to him, especially after just playing a full season.
Logistic and financial nightmare. Cans of spray paint much cheaper.
—Ricko[/quote]
Oh, I agree that painting the helmets makes a whole lot of sense. I was just surprised that they didn’t bother to remove the team’s logos before they sprayed them.
Since the Packers were using a two-part decal at the time, the “G” is clearly visible in relief under the gold spray paint. A few years later, and it would come out as a plain ellipse….
And, speaking of Lombardi….
Did anyone notice that, in addition to the Giants-style pants striping, Lombardi’s first Packers wore high white socks on the road?
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—Ricko
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381475″][quote comment=”381461″][quote comment=”381457″]Great photos. Flat-out love that Rams uniform – slap that sucker on the modern template and they’re ready to go.
I have some pictures of link on my blog – apparently they didn’t just spray gold over Jim Brown’s helmet numbers, but also team logos(!).[/quote]
Yup, was SOP to spray paint all the players helmets for the Pro Bowl back then…going back to the red helmet, blue helmet games.
Think about it.
Who’s gonna go to the expense of new helmets for one game, especially when they’d have to be exact sizes and different brands, with particular facemasks, etc., and you don’t know the players all that far in advance? And where would players find the time (or want to take the time) to break in a new helmet for one game? Isn’t a professional player alive who’ll wear any old helmet handed to him, especially after just playing a full season.
Logistic and financial nightmare. Cans of spray paint much cheaper.
—Ricko[/quote]
Oh, I agree that painting the helmets makes a whole lot of sense. I was just surprised that they didn’t bother to remove the team’s logos before they sprayed them.
Since the Packers were using a two-part decal at the time, the “G” is clearly visible in relief under the gold spray paint. A few years later, and it would come out as a plain ellipse….[/quote]
My guess is they figured wasn’t worth the trouble to peel them off. Few photos from the game ever moved on the wires, highlight film not exactly a hot commodity, TV ratings nothing to brag about, players arriving relatively close to game time so not much time for the whole “hat painting project”…
“Screw it, paint over everything; it’s just for one game and nobody’s gonna get a close look at ’em anyway” was the mission statement, I’d wager.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381458″]Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet[/quote]
Not to be all nitpicky, but Marsh’s last season in the league was 92-93. Craig MacTavish was the last player to play sans-helmet, finishing up by playing 50 games for the St. Louis Blues in 96-97.
Okay, now, see…
What we need to do is find is the AFL version of Dave Boss…and any color shots he might have from Bronco games early in 1962.
Problem is that as near as I can figure, Broncos wore the dark horsey helmet only in night games…which means very likely NO ONE likely was shooting color. Shutter speeds had to be SO slow to get color shots under those circumstances in ’62, that photographers rarely bothered with it.
—Ricko
Waiting with much anticipation for the announcement this afternoon. I just hope the jerseys are a departure from the Thanksgiving Day throwbacks. link
On the Packers striping, link is fine, but I vastly prefer the link because they match the helmet (and sleeves).
Paul, you have mentioned wanting a name for the “team color/white/team color” striping pattern used by the Packers, 49ers, Browns, Saints, Jets and Cowboys (and previously used by the Patriots and Lions), but to my knowledge no contenders were ever put forth.
I’d like to propose “Lombardi stripes”.
UCLA stripes and Northwestern stripes are so named for the schools which created them (or at least popularized them). This distinctive striping pattern, which would come to symbolize pro football, was introduced to the NFL by Lombardi when he took over the Packers in 1959.
When the Packers introduced their new Lombardi uniforms link, they were the only team using this striping pattern. By the link – a decade the Packers had dominated – six other NFL clubs (nearly half the league) had adopted the look, not to mention a couple AFL clubs (though the Patriots had added another stripe since then). Obviously, Lombardi’s stripes struck a nerve.
Aside from his trophy namesake, and the resurgence of Green Bay as the NFL’s premier franchise, these stripes may well be Lombardi’s most enduring legacy.
I was tempted to suggest “Braisher stripes” after Dad Braisher, the Packers’ equipment manager at the time and designer of the “G” helmet logo. I suspect that he actually designed the uniform under Lombardi’s supervision, but can’t confirm that. Besides, with the name recognition, “Lombardi stripes” just has more zing.
So what do you think?
[quote comment=”381477″][quote comment=”381475″]
Oh, I agree that painting the helmets makes a whole lot of sense. I was just surprised that they didn’t bother to remove the team’s logos before they sprayed them.
Since the Packers were using a two-part decal at the time, the “G” is clearly visible in relief under the gold spray paint. A few years later, and it would come out as a plain ellipse….[/quote]
My guess is they figured wasn’t worth the trouble to peel them off. Few photos from the game ever moved on the wires, highlight film not exactly a hot commodity, TV ratings nothing to brag about, players arriving relatively close to game time so not much time for the whole “hat painting project”…
“Screw it, paint over everything; it’s just for one game and nobody’s gonna get a close look at ’em anyway” was the mission statement, I’d wager.
—Ricko[/quote]
What’s interesting with that Gregg helmet is that they did remove the decals from one side. Perhaps the logo was already peeling from game use?
A clip from Bird’s 60-point game. It’s funny to see the cut of his top. It almost looks like Dwight Howard’s adidas tops he wears under his normal kit.
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Speaking of Seahawks wearing mesh jerseys, sorta. Does anyone know what was on the inside of Bosworth’s shoes here? link The outside had his “44 Lives” logo link (and his wrist bands and towel), but the inside logo looks red and orange. Not OU colors. Thoughts?
I believe Bosworth\’s stuff actually says-\”44 Blues\”
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It is so weird seeing Joe Willie in Rams gear-he was barely able to move by then. And his taped up cow catcher face mask.
and speaking of Rawlings helmets-I believe Dan Marino was one of the last people to wear one (do not quote me) I remember the nameplate/nose bumper was a bit wider than usual.
-Stoops
[quote comment=”381469″][quote comment=”381458″]Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet[/quote]
Nuh-uh. Craig MacTavish.[/quote]
Uh, I meant to say Brad Marsh was the last DEFENSEMAN not to wear a helmet. Yeah, that’s what I meant. ;)
-Jet
Okay, Paul – streaming ESPN Radio 540 Milwaukee now….
What hasn’t been mentioned about the clown softball team is that they’re from Los Alamos. That’s 1946 Los Alamos. Just after the Manhattan Project.
Just sayin…
[quote comment=”381485″]I believe Bosworth\’s stuff actually says-\”44 Blues\”
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It is so weird seeing Joe Willie in Rams gear-he was barely able to move by then. And his taped up cow catcher face mask.
and speaking of Rawlings helmets-I believe Dan Marino was one of the last people to wear one (do not quote me) I remember the nameplate/nose bumper was a bit wider than usual.
-Stoops[/quote]
You’re right it’s “44 blues.” Thanks for catching that
FINALLY!
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[quote comment=”381474″][quote]I agree, for certain teams the colors match up. I think the Braves, Nats and Red Sox also qualify.
I think I found a pic that shows what it might look like for the Braves. But I reiterate that it will look much better on the home team than the visitor.[/quote]
War Damn Eagle, I forgot about the Nats! They also look fine, and would the Red Sox and Yankees, with their darker blue.
Maybe one solution for the road team would be to put them in colored jerseys and white pants. The Cubs played like this all through link and looked just fine. (Mane Japanese teams, like the link, still do this, and look great.
The white pants would have to be un-pinstriped, though, so some teams might have to have new pants made up.
Most teams have a non-gray colored jersey that could be worn on the road, right? The only exception I can think of offhand is the Yankees. Do the Phillies have a red non-BP jersey? How about the Cardinals?[/quote]
[b]NO,[/b] the Cardinals DO NOT have a “colored” non-BP jersey; they wear white at home and gray on the road. (superior sniff!) For Memorial Day/July 4, they [i]could[/i] go with a [a href=”http://www.frankfrisch.com/images/Gashouse_gang.jpg”]”Gas House Gang”[/a] throwback (add the “StL” logo in stars and stripes if you wish), but the Gang wore white caps at home and gray caps on the road.
Whatever MLB decides to do, bet that it’ll be ugly…
Apologies if this site is already known to Uniwatch readers, but just found it. It’s link and it’s sort of a clearinghouse for every imaginable sports logo including minor leagues.
Not the most navigable site, but if you scroll through the interminable long home page listings, you occasionally find scans of old media guide covers, like this:
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or the Brooklyn Yankees football team sketch book from 1949:
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or this wacky WHA Cincinnati Stingers program:
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-Jet
ARRGGGHHH!
Try again…
NO, the Cardinals DO NOT have a “colored” non-BP jersey; they wear white at home and gray on the road. (superior sniff!) For Memorial Day/July 4, they could go with a link throwback (add the “StL” logo in stars and stripes if you wish), but the Gang wore white caps at home and gray caps on the road.
Whatever MLB decides to do, bet that it’ll be ugly…
Here is a picture of the uniforms that the Chinese Professional Baseball League (CPBL) All-Stars wore against the Dodgers today.
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White on the white
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and the logo for the 21st season of the CPBL
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I stumbled across that Logoshak site while looking for a pic of an old WHA Cincinnati Stingers jersey, prompted by reading about the cheap mesh look of the Seahawks jersey.
I couldn’t find a good pic of it, but the one I’m thinking of is from the recent The Hockey News special issue on jerseys. There’s a page in there of old WHA jerseys spread out on a table, and the Stingers jersey sticks out like a sore thumb because it’s the thinnest cheap mesh you can imagine, like a pull-over practice vest. And the logo is SILK-SCREENED ON!
Yeah, I know it was the WHA and money was always short, but all the other teams that were struggling still managed to outfit their troops in pro-quality durene jerseys with embroidered logos. The Cinncy jersey is pure beer league…
-Jet
[quote comment=”381489″][quote comment=”381485″]I believe Bosworth\’s stuff actually says-\”44 Blues\”
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It is so weird seeing Joe Willie in Rams gear-he was barely able to move by then. And his taped up cow catcher face mask.
and speaking of Rawlings helmets-I believe Dan Marino was one of the last people to wear one (do not quote me) I remember the nameplate/nose bumper was a bit wider than usual.
-Stoops[/quote]
You’re right it’s “44 blues.” Thanks for catching that[/quote]
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One of my favorite David Boss paintings:
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Great radio interview, Paul!
Great job on the radio. Nice to come back from class to hear some uniwatch on the radio.
[quote comment=”381481″]On the Packers striping, link is fine, but I vastly prefer the link because they match the helmet (and sleeves).
Paul, you have mentioned wanting a name for the “team color/white/team color” striping pattern used by the Packers, 49ers, Browns, Saints, Jets and Cowboys (and previously used by the Patriots and Lions), but to my knowledge no contenders were ever put forth.
I’d like to propose “Lombardi stripes”.
UCLA stripes and Northwestern stripes are so named for the schools which created them (or at least popularized them). This distinctive striping pattern, which would come to symbolize pro football, was introduced to the NFL by Lombardi when he took over the Packers in 1959.
When the Packers introduced their new Lombardi uniforms link, they were the only team using this striping pattern. By the link – a decade the Packers had dominated – six other NFL clubs (nearly half the league) had adopted the look, not to mention a couple AFL clubs (though the Patriots had added another stripe since then). Obviously, Lombardi’s stripes struck a nerve.
Aside from his trophy namesake, and the resurgence of Green Bay as the NFL’s premier franchise, these stripes may well be Lombardi’s most enduring legacy.
I was tempted to suggest “Braisher stripes” after Dad Braisher, the Packers’ equipment manager at the time and designer of the “G” helmet logo. I suspect that he actually designed the uniform under Lombardi’s supervision, but can’t confirm that. Besides, with the name recognition, “Lombardi stripes” just has more zing.
So what do you think?[/quote]
Eh, Lombardi already has enough things named after him.
On this site, we (or at least I) already call them NFL stripes, because they became an iconic NFL look. They’ve been listed as such in the Uni Watch Glossary:
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Fair enough – didn’t realize that they ever actually got a name.
No love for Dad? ;)
Not sure why the GGT guys hate on Brown so much- I happen to think the Browns use the color quite well.
Looking around the Uniwatch glossary, and noticed something:
Is the similarity between the NJ Nets numerals …
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and the Patriots numerals …
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… pure coincidence?
[quote comment=”381503″]Not sure why the GGT guys hate on Brown so much- I happen to think the Browns use the color quite well.[/quote]
‘Tis true, ’tis true. Seems like only when paired with gold that it conjures images of mustard-slathered hot dogs, tacos and/or dirty diapers.
Shows how visceral we are as a species, huh. Evidently we just don’t think we should wear certain foods or our excrement.
And, y’know, basically that sounds like a decent theory.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381465″]Is that Cubs ’48 throwback the inspiration for the Giants new hosiery?
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as ricko pointed out earlier, it was actually a “throwback” to their 1947 and 1948 full stirrups…although, not so much the “soccer sock” style worn by zito
had been hoping to do a post on this very thing this weekend, but it may be delayed…
[quote comment=”381438″] As many of us had speculated, this year’s MLB stars/stripes caps will be white – sort of. The crown will be white, but not every team will have the same visor color, and the visors won’t necessarily be team colors.
what the hell does that mean? ?[/quote]
I have no idea, but since it won’t automatically be team colors, I’d assume the visor (and button) would either be navy or red, depending either on league or home/away.
[quote comment=”381498″]One of my favorite David Boss paintings:
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The thing about that painting (and I first saw it years ago) is that Olsen wore that uni only a few seasons. By far, most of his career (and his best and most memorable seasons) were in the royal-and-white set that preceded it.
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And, of course, the famous group with Rosey Grier and all, wore that one, too…
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Most folks don’t remember than Lamar Lundy (85) was a two-way player at first, in late ’50s. Was the TE when Del Shofner and Jim “Red” Phillips were the Rams’ split end and flanker. Have several photos of him catching pass thrown by Billy Wade…
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…in my files.
—Ricko
came across this, thought the celtics sock stripes might be appreciated.
also, are the laker girls in the background wearing ghostbuster shirts?
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[quote comment=”381505″][quote comment=”381503″]Not sure why the GGT guys hate on Brown so much- I happen to think the Browns use the color quite well.[/quote]
‘Tis true, ’tis true. Seems like only when paired with gold that it conjures images of mustard-slathered hot dogs, tacos and/or dirty diapers.
Shows how visceral we are as a species, huh. Evidently we just don’t think we should wear certain foods or our excrement.
And, y’know, basically that sounds like a decent theory.
—Ricko[/quote]
Fair enough, but I’ve always been partial to this:
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They’ve definitely junked it up in recent years with piping/horns/other unnecessary garbage, but something about white helmet/brown jersey/gold pants just does it for me. And not just in a “so wrong it’s right” way. I think I actually like it.
Nice (hopefully the link works)…
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Johnny Mize modeling the link.
[quote comment=”381511″]Nice (hopefully the link works)…
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This is interesting (scroll about halfway down)…
“Use this photo, but put their helmets on in the painting, okay?”
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381512″]Johnny Mize modeling the link.[/quote]
Notice stripes designed to encircle the SHIN, not the calf.
That’s cuz them is baseball stirrups (by thunder, and get off my lawn), not soccer socks.
;)
–Ricko
[quote comment=”381513″][quote comment=”381511″]Nice (hopefully the link works)…
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This is interesting (scroll about halfway down)…
“Use this photo, but put their helmets on in the painting, okay?”
—Ricko[/quote]
that link made my computer do some weird shit!
[quote comment=”381513″][quote comment=”381511″]Nice (hopefully the link works)…
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This is interesting (scroll about halfway down)…
“Use this photo, but put their helmets on in the painting, okay?”
—Ricko[/quote]
rick…sorry….i had to remove that link
it contained a virus…the same one that wiped out my entire home computer
very bad…very bad
[quote comment=”381486″][quote comment=”381469″][quote comment=”381458″]Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet[/quote]
Nuh-uh. Craig MacTavish.[/quote]
Uh, I meant to say Brad Marsh was the last DEFENSEMAN not to wear a helmet. Yeah, that’s what I meant. ;)
-Jet[/quote]
What about Doug Wilson, I know he was w/o a helmet in Chicago, not sure what he did in SJ though through ’93
Devils Alts.
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[quote comment=”381516″][quote comment=”381513″][quote comment=”381511″]Nice (hopefully the link works)…
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This is interesting (scroll about halfway down)…
“Use this photo, but put their helmets on in the painting, okay?”
—Ricko[/quote]
rick…sorry….i had to remove that link
it contained a virus…the same one that wiped out my entire home computer
very bad…very bad[/quote]
Man, you think they’d make such thing obvious, wouldn’t ya?
ricko just shot me a email, detailing the following:
“It’s kinda fun (and since I can’t get on flick at work, maybe you can pair them for the folks in UW land)
Anyway here are the two images…
a. Photo
b. Painting using photo but with helmets added.”
so presto change-o…and voila:
lookie here
good stuff rick
[quote comment=”381474″][quote]I agree, for certain teams the colors match up. I think the Braves, Nats and Red Sox also qualify.
I think I found a pic that shows what it might look like for the Braves. But I reiterate that it will look much better on the home team than the visitor.[/quote]
War Damn Eagle, I forgot about the Nats! They also look fine, and would the Red Sox and Yankees, with their darker blue.
Maybe one solution for the road team would be to put them in colored jerseys and white pants. The Cubs played like this all through link and looked just fine. (Mane Japanese teams, like the link, still do this, and look great.
The white pants would have to be un-pinstriped, though, so some teams might have to have new pants made up.
Most teams have a non-gray colored jersey that could be worn on the road, right? The only exception I can think of offhand is the Yankees. Do the Phillies have a red non-BP jersey? How about the Cardinals?[/quote]
I agree. MLB should have the road teams wear solid white pants with colored jerseys. But it’s not possible for:
Yankees (no colored jersey, no solid white pants)
Cardinals (no colored jersey)
Phillies (no colored jersey or solid white pants – the cream alts wouldn’t really work)
Rockies (no solid white pants)
Giants (no solid white pants – their home unis are cream)
If the Twins still have those fauxbacks they wore last year, then they have some solid white pants.
This is why I hate the idea of colored hats that don’t match the team colors. It all clashes, and is therefore, stupid.
[quote comment=”381443″]Nice to see Rawlings back in the football helmet biz. I wore a Rawlings my junior year in high school. Most comfortable football helmet I ever wore.
The Maxpro I wore the following year…wasn’t.[/quote]
You reminded me of my JV football days back in High School. My teammate Ivy got stuck with the one Maxpro helmet the team had, while all of us got brand new Riddell or Schutt (I think). We all kept makin fun of his old raggedy Maxpro (I remember the padding was hard and yellow from age), so he complained to the coach. He said, “Coach can I get a new helmet?” Coach asked, “why?” He responded, “cuz I can feel the impact with this old helmet coach.” And coach said, “good you’re supposed to.” The whole team fell on the floor cracking up.
[quote comment=\”381458\”]Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet[/quote]
Both teams were wearing colour – because back then the teams only had one style of retro uniforms. There were a few colour on colour games that year (Leafs vs Hawks, Hawks vs Habs, etc). I don\’t think the Rangers and Leafs went colour on colour because they both had blue uniforms)
[quote comment=”381458″]Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet[/quote]
I remember watching that game on HNIC.
At that time, the Leafs had been wearing their yoked jerseys forever so seeing the throwbacks (which was a pretty new concept in 1991) was sweet.
The other thing, the players REALLY got into the whole event. The game was in Montreal, and the Leafs players dressed up in clothing from the 1930s (think Untouchables) with hats and all, and took a vintage train from Toronto to Montreal for the game.
[quote comment=”381521″]
This is why I hate the idea of colored hats that don’t match the team colors. It all clashes, and is therefore, stupid.[/quote]
there is, you know, a simple solution to this whole dilemma
John Jefferson…
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…may have been the most oustanding player I ever saw disappear almost instantly from the NFL for reasons other injuries or chemical or legal problems.
In the beginning, he looked he’s be one of the all-timers. Was spectacular with the Chargers (as he had been at Arizona State). Yet, for some reason he was traded to Green Bay, where he formed a scary tandem with James Lofton for a year, maybe two. Then suddenly after brief stays with the Oilers and Browns, I believe, he was gone. Out of football.
Only thing I ever heard was that the problem was he did so little to keep himself in condition. That “age,” meaning reaching his late 20’s, just sideswiped him and younger players were flat-out better.
Anyone else know any more about it/him?
—Ricko
Chris Jones, Chucks wearing Lax player…you are crazy!
[quote comment=”381525″][quote comment=”381521″]
This is why I hate the idea of colored hats that don’t match the team colors. It all clashes, and is therefore, stupid.[/quote]
there is, you know, a simple solution to this whole dilemma[/quote]
Other than stopping the whole thing, you mean?
I’d say just make up the team hat logos in the star-spangled motif (the odd-looking Chief Wahoo notwithstanding) and wear on the regular home or road hat, whichever is right or the occasion.
I know, I know, “But those won’t SELL, not different enough.”
–Ricko
[quote comment=”381525″][quote comment=”381521″]
This is why I hate the idea of colored hats that don’t match the team colors. It all clashes, and is therefore, stupid.[/quote]
there is, you know, a simple solution to this whole dilemma[/quote]
Force every team to wear a colored jersey on the road and outlaw dull, insipid gray?*
I know, not the answer everyone’s looking for, but I’ve never understood people’s attractino to gray. Particularly in an era when you often can’t see players’ socks at all, and the gray goes all the way down to their feet.
(*Unless it’s the “heathered” gray from a flannel jersey. That’s got character.)
So, did the Packers bring an actual throwback jersey to the fanfest, one we could get a photo of and post here?
I’ll guarantee this has been mentioned here before…
Watching the 1975 MLB All-Star game on MLB Network and noticed something I thought was really odd. The Oakland Athletics were represented by 8 players (turned it on late and only saw 3), and they were sporting 2 different uniforms. Gene Tenace was wearing Oakland’s yellow uniform from that year, while Claudell Washington and AL manager Alvin Dark were wearing Oakland’s white uniforms. Wish I would’ve turned it on earlier because now I’m curious what the other A’s players were wearing.
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[quote comment=”381531″]I’ll guarantee this has been mentioned here before…
Watching the 1975 MLB All-Star game on MLB Network and noticed something I thought was really odd. The Oakland Athletics were represented by 8 players (turned it on late and only saw 3), and they were sporting 2 different uniforms. Gene Tenace was wearing Oakland’s yellow uniform from that year, while Claudell Washington and AL manager Alvin Dark were wearing Oakland’s white uniforms. Wish I would’ve turned it on earlier because now I’m curious what the other A’s players were wearing.
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yup…i think in 1973 and 74 they had like 3 or 4 different uni styles
but here’s what they wore in 1975
if you’re interested, i did a little article on this last summer with larry widerecht…
if you can find video (just go to youtube) of the 75 (i THINK…might be earlier) game, i am pretty sure vida blue was on the bump and wearing an all yellow uni, while his teammates all sported different variations of the yellow (gold), kelly (green) and white combos…
ok check that…just go to paul’s write up of the ASG and scroll to 1975 … shows all the different combos via screen shots
crazy days, man
[quote comment=”381530″]So, did the Packers bring an actual throwback jersey to the fanfest, one we could get a photo of and post here?[/quote]
FanFest doesn’t start for another 15 minutes….
Another interesting aspect of the 1991 NHL footage is seeing Grant Fuhr and Andy Moog both with their post-Oilers teams that year.
[quote comment=”381518″]Devils Alts.
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YES! I miss my christmas uniforms!
Hey Paul, not trying to brag or anything, but today’s my 19th birthday! Your blogs are a present in their own rights. I know your birthday is coming up soon. How old are you gonna be?
[quote comment=”381533″][quote comment=”381530″]So, did the Packers bring an actual throwback jersey to the fanfest, one we could get a photo of and post here?[/quote]
FanFest doesn’t start for another 15 minutes….[/quote]
Chance, this is taking For-EV-Er. I haven’t been this excited since the 2007 NFC championship game.
[quote comment=”381537″] I haven’t been this excited since the 2007 NFC championship game.[/quote]
that was a great game!
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here is a photo of the new Packer third uniforms.
[quote comment=”381537″][quote comment=”381533″][quote comment=”381530″]So, did the Packers bring an actual throwback jersey to the fanfest, one we could get a photo of and post here?[/quote]
FanFest doesn’t start for another 15 minutes….[/quote]
Chance, this is taking For-EV-Er. I haven’t been this excited since the 2007 NFC championship game.[/quote]
Since that’s out, more photos here – link
[quote comment=”381539″]http://packerslounge.com/wp-content/uploads/Capture.jpg
here is a photo of the new Packer third uniforms.[/quote]
Meh.
[quote comment=”381509″]came across this, thought the celtics sock stripes might be appreciated.
also, are the laker girls in the background wearing ghostbuster shirts?
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Celtic Busters shirts.
It was all the rage in the 80s to apply the Ghostbusters logo (and song) to your team’s rival. The MISL’s Cleveland Force did this for a couple of seasons – when the Baltimore Blast came to town, any time the Force scored a goal they’d play the original song. Right after “Who ya gonna call?” they turned down the sound and the crowd shouted “Blast Busters!” It was fun…once. Got old reeeal quickly.
[quote comment=”381538″][quote comment=”381537″] I haven’t been this excited since the 2007 NFC championship game.[/quote]
that was a great game![/quote]
Oh you shut your mouth Phil! I had never been so cold in my life. And then with my team losing… gosh, I had never felt so deflated. But Great win for the Giants. Your fans were very respectful.
———————
I would like to see the whole uniform, and it modeled on a player with pads before I make my final verdict on the third uni.
Still curious why those Devils Alt’s have a CCM on the tail and Reebok under the collar.
Great shot of Bobby Layne today!
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If he had a facemask he’d look like Doug Flutie:
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Love this shot of Groza kicking:
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jersey looks decent, but I agree with Johnny O, need to see it on a player to really decide on its value. And the press release I read mentioned “a solid brown color without a logo to best simulate the leather helmets worn during the era. The uniform pants are a tan color.”
the brown probably won’t look right on new shiny helmets, but hey, gotta see it first.
-Greenie
[quote comment=”381546″]jersey looks decent, but I agree with Johnny O, need to see it on a player to really decide on its value. And the press release I read mentioned “a solid brown color without a logo to best simulate the leather helmets worn during the era. The uniform pants are a tan color.”
the brown probably won’t look right on new shiny helmets, but hey, gotta see it first.
-Greenie[/quote]
Wait a minute… you mean to tell me the helmet with be painted like an old leather helmet? Kind of like graphics on a hockey goalie mask? Santa Maria! I am gonna have to see that to believe it.
[quote comment=”381541″][quote comment=”381539″]http://packerslounge.com/wp-content/uploads/Capture.jpg
here is a photo of the new Packer third uniforms.[/quote]
Meh.[/quote]
I’d rather see them in this (with numbers, of course):
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Or this:
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[quote comment=”381548″][quote comment=”381541″][quote comment=”381539″]http://packerslounge.com/wp-content/uploads/Capture.jpg
here is a photo of the new Packer third uniforms.[/quote]
Meh.[/quote]
I’d rather see them in this (with numbers, of course):
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Or this:
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Or this:
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Who is the Steelers’ backup QB?
Might be important.
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Unlike Paul, I loved the Seahawks mesh jerseys. Much rather see that:
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than this:
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[quote comment=”381551″]Unlike Paul, I loved the Seahawks mesh jerseys. Much rather see that:
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than this:
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That was the era before fabric that “wicked” away moisture. Several (most?) NFL teams experimented with mesh jerseys, especially in hot weather situations. There was a time, I think, when only the Steelers and Raiders still had tackle twill numbers. Everyone else had gone to flex.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381550″]Who is the Steelers’ backup QB?
Might be important.
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Dennis Dixon (wouldn’t mind seeing him get more playing time, but under better circumstances).
Might be a good time to draft a QB, eh?
If they go after Vick, my best friend (who is an even bigger Stillers fan than I am) will sever all ties with the team. I’d rather they draft someone – if the stuff hits the fan, they develop Dixon and the rookie, and if Ben’s innocent, you have someone to trade.
[quote comment=”381553″][quote comment=”381550″]Who is the Steelers’ backup QB?
Might be important.
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Dennis Dixon (wouldn’t mind seeing him get more playing time, but under better circumstances).
Might be a good time to draft a QB, eh?
If they go after Vick, my best friend (who is an even bigger Stillers fan than I am) will sever all ties with the team. I’d rather they draft someone – if the stuff hits the fan, they develop Dixon and the rookie, and if Ben’s innocent, you have someone to trade.[/quote]
Big Ben may be found not guilty, which is the legal term, of course.
Not too sure he’s innocent, though.
About much of anything.
Even beyond this particular legal hassle for Big Ben, there’s a whole discussion that could be had about the mindest an NFL QB ought to have, about what his responsbilities are to the organization, to his teammates, etc.
He probably has no business riding a motorcycle, with or without a helmet.
He probably has no business being anywhere near The Love Boat.
He probably ought to think twice about operating an illegal dog fighting operation.
He probably ought not dance like a knob a groomsman’s dinner (or whatever it was).
And, of course, I could list more.
Just sayin’, there’s no position in sports quite like NFL QB in the sense of accepting a pretty heavy obligation to deliver leadership, credibilty and, well, adulthood.
A whole different level of “should I or shouldn’t I?”
Or least understand the conception of discretion.
Doesn’t mean there haven’t been, and won’t be, exceptions. But, as a general rule…it is most definitely so.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381541″][quote comment=”381539″]http://packerslounge.com/wp-content/uploads/Capture.jpg
here is a photo of the new Packer third uniforms.[/quote]
Meh.[/quote]
I love it. As a Packers fan, I’m excited for this. I wish they showed the whole uniform though. Tan pants with a brown helmet? This should be good. Feels like a real throwback. The nameplates might look out of place, but oh well.
I think I’ll try to nab a #12 jersey this year…
so ricko (and im not saying i disagree)…
but you want less of:
this
this (yeah i know, but i couldn’t find one of daunte)
this
this
and this…
and more of
this
this
and this?
Packers third jersey, from the horse’s mouth:
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From WLUK, video with the whole Packers uni:
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[quote comment=”381556″]so ricko (and im not saying i disagree)…
but you want less of:
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link (yeah i know, but i couldn’t find one of daunte)
link
link
and link…
and more of
link
link
and link?[/quote]
(Coulda found a photo of Unitas for that latter group, too, I imagine).
But, yeah, something like that. Not necessarily squeaky clean, though. I mean, Van Brocklin, Namath, Layne, Jurgensen and others led pretty well.
But a clear sense of responsibility needs to be there, the understanding that a whole mess of people are relying on you.
I suppose it’s a version of what Andy McPhail (I believe it was him) said of big money pro athletes: “There are two kinds. One starts figuring out how to spend the money, the other starts figuring out how to earn it.”
Pro athletes are fortunate on a level they rarely recognize (especially football and basketball players). Unlike the rest of us, they get paid based on potential. We normal folk actually have to deliver first.
—Ricko
Only thing is that Jordy Nelson jersey looks straight out of the NFL Shop’s women’s selection…
As a Blugold alum, should UW-Eau Claire go with that Blue Ox I’ll want nothing more to do with them.
[quote comment=”381558″]From WLUK, video with the whole Packers uni:
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Fun. A bit like “LEATHERHEADS updated”.
But with low cut cleats some white sock ought to show.
Dark color full socks just plain weren’t worn back then. Dyes not color fast and players had to protect against blisters getting infected. Wore colored stirrups under white crews (which contained no dyes). Crews rarely show, though, because virtually everyone wore high tops.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381556″]so ricko (and im not saying i disagree)…
but you want less of:
link
link (yeah i know, but i couldn’t find one of daunte)
link
link
and link…
and more of
link
link
and link?[/quote]
Goddamn, Phil. I get that it’s the ugly truth, and people need to be aware of the grim reality and all, but that dog pic is all kinds of fucked up.
On the other hand, it threw some gas on my burning hatred for Vick (and all dogfighters), so I guess… well done!
[quote comment=”381563″]Goddamn, Phil. I get that it’s the ugly truth, and people need to be aware of the grim reality and all, but that dog pic is all kinds of fucked up.
On the other hand, it threw some gas on my burning hatred for Vick (and all dogfighters), so I guess… well done![/quote]
sorry bernard…
but yeah…that IS the ugly truth
people have short memories, especially when it comes to a fine athlete still semi-in-the-prime-of-his-career who might help their team
as a dog owner and lover, i’ll never forget
“he’s paid his debt and deserves a second chance”
uh huh
[quote comment=”381557″]Packers third jersey, from the horse’s mouth:
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That is a great looking jersey.
[quote comment=”381564″][quote comment=”381563″]Goddamn, Phil. I get that it’s the ugly truth, and people need to be aware of the grim reality and all, but that dog pic is all kinds of fucked up.
On the other hand, it threw some gas on my burning hatred for Vick (and all dogfighters), so I guess… well done![/quote]
sorry bernard…
but yeah…that IS the ugly truth
people have short memories, especially when it comes to a fine athlete still semi-in-the-prime-of-his-career who might help their team
as a dog owner and lover, i’ll never forget
“he’s paid his debt and deserves a second chance”
uh huh[/quote]
From society, maybe.
No one has the RIGHT to an professional athletic career.
If we do, I’m suing the Timberwolves for keeping me off the team just because I can’t run, can’t shoot, can’t jump, can’t rebound, can’t play defense…
Oh, wait, they already have guys like that.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381564″][quote comment=”381563″]Goddamn, Phil. I get that it’s the ugly truth, and people need to be aware of the grim reality and all, but that dog pic is all kinds of fucked up.
On the other hand, it threw some gas on my burning hatred for Vick (and all dogfighters), so I guess… well done![/quote]
sorry bernard…
but yeah…that IS the ugly truth
people have short memories, especially when it comes to a fine athlete still semi-in-the-prime-of-his-career who might help their team
as a dog owner and lover, i’ll never forget
“he’s paid his debt and deserves a second chance”
uh huh[/quote]
I’m with you.
Doggone (sorry)… shoulda given us a warning before clicking the dog pic…
-Jet
[quote comment=”381442″][quote comment=”381441″]Bad link to Mets white hat. Sorry. Here it is:
link
Good Lord. It’s a conspiracy.
link
Is the link related to the Met’s medical team??? That would explain the failure to appear on a consistent basis.
More Pack. LIKE em.
link
[quote comment=”381526″]John Jefferson…
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…may have been the most oustanding player I ever saw disappear almost instantly from the NFL for reasons other injuries or chemical or legal problems.
In the beginning, he looked he’s be one of the all-timers. Was spectacular with the Chargers (as he had been at Arizona State). Yet, for some reason he was traded to Green Bay, where he formed a scary tandem with James Lofton for a year, maybe two. Then suddenly after brief stays with the Oilers and Browns, I believe, he was gone. Out of football.
Only thing I ever heard was that the problem was he did so little to keep himself in condition. That “age,” meaning reaching his late 20’s, just sideswiped him and younger players were flat-out better.
Anyone else know any more about it/him?
—Ricko[/quote]
Ricko,
JJ was traded to the Packers because of a contract dispute with the Chargers. This Wikipedia article states that he went on to be an assistant coach at Kansas and then to work in player development with the Redskins:
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On another topic, can you recommend any good websites that cover magazine advertising in the 1950s-1960s? You know, something like UniWatch, only about magazine ads of that era?
[quote comment=”381554″][quote comment=”381553″][quote comment=”381550″]Who is the Steelers’ backup QB?
Might be important.
link|main|dl2|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fnfl.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F03%2F11%2Fbig-bens-in-more-trouble-than-you-think%2F[/quote]
Dennis Dixon (wouldn’t mind seeing him get more playing time, but under better circumstances).
Might be a good time to draft a QB, eh?
If they go after Vick, my best friend (who is an even bigger Stillers fan than I am) will sever all ties with the team. I’d rather they draft someone – if the stuff hits the fan, they develop Dixon and the rookie, and if Ben’s innocent, you have someone to trade.[/quote]
Big Ben may be found not guilty, which is the legal term, of course.
Not too sure he’s innocent, though.
About much of anything.
Even beyond this particular legal hassle for Big Ben, there’s a whole discussion that could be had about the mindest an NFL QB ought to have, about what his responsbilities are to the organization, to his teammates, etc.
He probably has no business riding a motorcycle, with or without a helmet.
He probably has no business being anywhere near The Love Boat.
He probably ought to think twice about operating an illegal dog fighting operation.
He probably ought not dance like a knob a groomsman’s dinner (or whatever it was).
And, of course, I could list more.
Just sayin’, there’s no position in sports quite like NFL QB in the sense of accepting a pretty heavy obligation to deliver leadership, credibilty and, well, adulthood.
A whole different level of “should I or shouldn’t I?”
Or least understand the conception of discretion.
Doesn’t mean there haven’t been, and won’t be, exceptions. But, as a general rule…it is most definitely so.
—Ricko[/quote]
Oh boy….. having read this I ‘m dreading the rest of the comments… surely a Jeff posting calling Ricko’s take a rant against individuality? ;)
[quote comment=”381557″]Packers third jersey, from the horse’s mouth:
link
Love how Murphy tosses a rock in the Bears general direction. way to go, team executive! :)
[quote comment=”381563″][quote comment=”381556″]so ricko (and im not saying i disagree)…
but you want less of:
link
link (yeah i know, but i couldn’t find one of daunte)
link
link
and link…
and more of
link
link
and link?[/quote]
Goddamn, Phil. I get that it’s the ugly truth, and people need to be aware of the grim reality and all, but that dog pic is all kinds of fucked up.
On the other hand, it threw some gas on my burning hatred for Vick (and all dogfighters), so I guess… well done![/quote]
Amen, B.
I’m having the same repulsion to that heartless bastard.
[quote comment=”381566″][quote comment=”381564″][quote comment=”381563″]Goddamn, Phil. I get that it’s the ugly truth, and people need to be aware of the grim reality and all, but that dog pic is all kinds of fucked up.
On the other hand, it threw some gas on my burning hatred for Vick (and all dogfighters), so I guess… well done![/quote]
sorry bernard…
but yeah…that IS the ugly truth
people have short memories, especially when it comes to a fine athlete still semi-in-the-prime-of-his-career who might help their team
as a dog owner and lover, i’ll never forget
“he’s paid his debt and deserves a second chance”
uh huh[/quote]
From society, maybe.
No one has the RIGHT to an professional athletic career.
If we do, I’m suing the Timberwolves for keeping me off the team just because I can’t run, can’t shoot, can’t jump, can’t rebound, can’t play defense…
Oh, wait, they already have guys like that.
—Ricko[/quote]
Ricko, call the Nets…. they’re still looking for a few guys that fit that mold.
How about less of link
[quote comment=”381570″]More Pack. LIKE em.
link
Billiards, anyone?
[quote comment=”381576″]How about less of link[/quote]
Pretty sure the Packers didn’t want him.
Then again, if the Vikings had Aaron Rodgers they might not have wanted him, either.
All based on need.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”381500″]Great job on the radio. Nice to come back from class to hear some uniwatch on the radio.[/quote]
If you missed Paul’s interview, you can hear it here.
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[quote comment=”381437″]That $ave On Meats store in Vancouver was featured on Anthony Bourdain’s No Reservations.[/quote]
Sadly the butcher shop closed last year. The lunch counter is, I believe, still open, but it was the butcher shop that defined the place–busy, kind of scary, with dodgy lighting in a really dodgy part of town. Heck, you could buy a steak and for $1 they’d cook it for you. Unfortunately the owner decided to retire and couldn’t find anyone willing to keep the shop open. It seems that potential buyers were interested only in the building and the sign and planned to gut the place out, and he wanted no part of that. Unfortunately it’s not clear how long it will be until the sign is the only thing that’s left of the place.
Vancouver used to be a city of some truly awesome neon. Too bad there’s not much left of it.
[quote comment=”381469″][quote comment=”381458″]Great Opening Night NHL 1991 footage – but why were both teams wearing dark unis in the Toronto-Montreal game? Also note Brad Marsh on Detroit without a helmet – the last player to do so.
-Jet[/quote]
Nuh-uh. Craig MacTavish.[/quote]
Saint… Louis… Blues… … Hockey.
Wow.
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Re: Virginia Tech’s Rainbow Guts:
They auctioned one off after the game, but it wasn’t publicized all that well.
Also, the cap and pants have Nike logos on them, but not the jersey, interestingly.