Uni Watch DIY Project: Purple Mountains’ Majesty

Portland logo being 5 0n 5 was cool to learn yesterday.

Thanks

It looks to me that the only Duck out of order leaving the field is #9 Lagarrette Blount (between #22 and #23). A sign of trouble to come?

What is wrong with Dave Matthews?

[quote comment=”347076″]It looks to me that the only Duck out of order leaving the field is #9 Lagarrette Blount (between #22 and #23). A sign of trouble to come?[/quote]

Good eye! I missed that. I just wish the team had that much discipline while playing the game! Tough to be a duck this week. But, I still wore my Oregon cap. One bad apple plucked from the tree… (blah b… b…)

I can’t wait to see if they do this at home tomorrow night.

[quote comment=”347081″]Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
Is it set for Mountain Time?[/quote]

Haha, good one!

[quote comment=”347083″][quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

Only that ESPN is going to make college football fans listen to them all season long. Nothing against DMB, but there’s nothing there to excite me for football. I WANNA ROCK!

They should come up with a bitchin’ theme song and stick with it. Hey, it worked for MNF.

BTW…
Is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed with ESPN? Used to love it, now it’s like, “ughh I have to watch it on ESPN”?![/quote]

Not much could be worse than that pregame crapola troweled out by NBC last nite. Thank God there was GaTech/Clemson to toggle to (on ESPN: sorry,Joe).

The Hockey News “Jersey Tournament” is in progress:

link

(Why not “Sweater Tournament”?)

Anybody notice that on that Falcons game ticket the QB (Bartkowski?) has his chin strap un-snapped?

[quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

Good question, I’m thinking he’s got some form of mental dysentery?

Paul, I would surely join you for the Samoans gig, alas, not in the Brooklyn area. On a similar note, anyone see this link

[quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

Maybe Paul was on the Chicago River one day checking out signage and…

[quote comment=”347087″]Ducks-in-a-Row brings to mind an old NFL Films coaches hightlight piece with Richie Kotite yelling at the Eagles on the sideline ‘low to the high, low to the high’ before the National Anthem was played.[/quote]

Under Bud Grant, every year the Vikings spent one entire early training camp session devoted to “how we stand for the national anthem”. Helmet on left hip, feet pointed a certain angle, stand along this line, spaced just so far from the player on either side of you, etc. Meticulous planning. And the players did it that way, perfectly, every single time the anthem was played, without being told. Because that’s what you did if you were a Minnesota Viking. Period.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”347094″][quote comment=”347087″]Ducks-in-a-Row brings to mind an old NFL Films coaches hightlight piece with Richie Kotite yelling at the Eagles on the sideline ‘low to the high, low to the high’ before the National Anthem was played.[/quote]

Under Bud Grant, every year the Vikings spent one entire early training camp session devoted to “how we stand for the national anthem”. Helmet on left hip, feet pointed a certain angle, stand along this line, spaced just so far from the player on either side of you, etc. Meticulous planning. And the players did it that way, perfectly, every single time the anthem was played, without being told. Because that’s what you did if you were a Minnesota Viking. Period.

—Ricko[/quote]

And that’s where any comparision between Grant and Kotite begins and ends.

It looks to me that the only Duck out of order leaving the field is #9 Lagarrette Blount (between #22 and #23).

Guess that won’t happen again this season.

[quote comment=”347096″][quote comment=”347094″][quote comment=”347087″]Ducks-in-a-Row brings to mind an old NFL Films coaches hightlight piece with Richie Kotite yelling at the Eagles on the sideline ‘low to the high, low to the high’ before the National Anthem was played.[/quote]

Under Bud Grant, every year the Vikings spent one entire early training camp session devoted to “how we stand for the national anthem”. Helmet on left hip, feet pointed a certain angle, stand along this line, spaced just so far from the player on either side of you, etc. Meticulous planning. And the players did it that way, perfectly, every single time the anthem was played, without being told. Because that’s what you did if you were a Minnesota Viking. Period.

—Ricko[/quote]

And that’s where any comparision between Grant and Kotite begins and ends.[/quote]

Does say something about “preparation” and “organization” (or lack thereof), doesn’t it.

The “Ratner” Arena will never be built. The most likely senario is that he will end up selling the Nets and the will play in “The Rock” in Newark. Which BTW is a much nicer arena than any of the designs Ratner has unveiled.

[quote comment=”347086″]The Hockey News “Jersey Tournament” is in progress:

link

(Why not “Sweater Tournament”?)[/quote]

Quad City Mallards are getting a lot of support. NICE!! Those sweaters are great.

[quote comment=”347093″]Guess the game from the scoreboard people should have a field day with that post![/quote]

heh…had the same thoughts while reading today’s article

[quote comment=”347103″][quote comment=”347082″][quote comment=”347081″]Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
Is it set for Mountain Time?[/quote]

Haha, good one![/quote]

Chris, don’t know if I ever praised you for your amazing helmet idea last year. I immediately went out and created a throwback cowboys one for myself. Great work and keep it up![/quote]

That’s awesome! Do you have any pictures of it? I’d like to see how it turned out!

[quote comment=”347108″][quote comment=”347103″][quote comment=”347082″][quote comment=”347081″]Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
Is it set for Mountain Time?[/quote]

Haha, good one![/quote]

Chris, don’t know if I ever praised you for your amazing helmet idea last year. I immediately went out and created a throwback cowboys one for myself. Great work and keep it up![/quote]

That’s awesome! Do you have any pictures of it? I’d like to see how it turned out![/quote]

Yeah I have pictures of part of the creation, I was taking step by step pictures and then got way into it and next I knew it was done. I also have pictures from the Cowboys @ Cardinals game last october, before security politely asked me to take it off.

I’ll try to figure out where the are at on my computer and get them flickrized after I get home tonight.

re: ESPN

The “ME” network…or, How we only tell the stories we want and never want to ask real questions & forget that there are markets that may actually NOT INTERESTED in New York Yankees / Boston Red Sox…

When SNY came around, I was so happy…

[quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

“Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
Have no idea what their colors were, but…

Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

Cincinnati Celts
New York Brickleys Giants
Tonawanda Kardex
Washington Senators

(This oughta be fun).

Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

—Ricko[/quote]

Or, design logos for any of ’em.

Oh, this is TOO good…

re: Tonawanda Kardex.
“They played their games in Tonawanda, New York, a suburb of Buffalo. The team is most notable for their ONE GAME as a member of the National Football League, the shortest lived team in the league’s history.”

—Ricko

[quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

“Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
Have no idea what their colors were, but…

Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

Cincinnati Celts
New York Brickleys Giants
Tonawanda Kardex
Washington Senators

(This oughta be fun).

Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

—Ricko[/quote]
Amen, brother. With all that material, it should’ve been excellent.

Can’t believe that was the hill Clooney wanted to die on. If you’re going to pull out of the Guild over a credit dispute, shouldn’t it be because they wouldn’t let you put your name on a good script?

Funny Adrian Beltre story to go with the “cup” entry from yesterday.

“Adrian Beltre stepping to the plate with the “Nutcracker” music playing over the loudspeakers. Ken Griffey Jr. strikes again …”

link

Love the scoreboard, Chris. Makes me wish the Nats had a similarly distinctive scoreboard that could fit on a wall in miniature. But your excellent Rockies DIY has me thinking of applying your how-to to just the curly-W clock portion of the Nats scoreboard. I have some clock-sized empty wall space in my den — I’m old school, so I don’t have a man-cave, I have a den — between Penxa paintings of Johnson and Gibson.

Also, it can be stipulated that Bud Grant was a god. And a really sweet guy, at least to children; after he retired, he used to come to my elementary school in Eden Prairie to pick up his granddaughter once a week or so, and not many adults were ever friendlier to little children than Coach Grant. Not so sweet to the men he coached; some of the black players used to joke about Coach Grant trying to turn them white with his long outdoor practices in the Minnesota winter.

[quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

“Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with link[/quote]
link?[/quote]
It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.

For the shoe freaks among us (Powers and others), note Randy Johnson’s cleats in th photo of the Falcon ticket.
They’re K-SWISS, from their brief foray into the cleated shoe market in the early to mid-60’s.
He has them taped, which covers some of the stripes, but that’s the clearest photo I’ve seen of them.
link

—Ricko

Outstanding DIY project today!

I always wondered (well, since ’95) why the Rox used that particular text arch on the scoreboard since they don’t use it on jerseys, jackets and the like. Only sometimes on things like media guides.

Another thing about Bud Grant is he questioned why the networks would regularly cut away from the national anthem for a commercial break.

I’m sure the NFL and networks loved him for that.

[quote comment=”347115″][quote comment=”347079″]great job chris!

(also, JTH)

i need a DIY hobby[/quote]
(Thanks.)

Now I just need to know what color pants the Bears are wearing with the white jerseys this year. Y’know, so I’m dressed appropriately at Lambeau this Sunday.

They went blue in the preseason, but last year they did that and went white for the real games.

Such a predicament. I mean, c’mon, if I wear the blue and they white, I’ll look like some kind of rube.[/quote]

A wearing my Blue ‘Boys jersey at work today because and only because Tampa is going to wear white at home Sunday. i know how you feel.

/toungue-in-cheek but only kind of.

a. those Atlanta Falcons throwbacks are pretty much THE perfect football uniform, in my opinion.

b. i like those Bruins’ uni’s. if they use them i’d be okay with it.

c. this might be the best NFL season since the merger for uniforms.

[quote comment=”347115″][quote comment=”347079″]great job chris!

(also, JTH)

i need a DIY hobby[/quote]
(Thanks.)

Now I just need to know what color pants the Bears are wearing with the white jerseys this year. Y’know, so I’m dressed appropriately at Lambeau this Sunday.

They went blue in the preseason, but last year they did that and went white for the real games.

Such a predicament. I mean, c’mon, if I wear the blue and they white, I’ll look like some kind of rube.[/quote]

You may look like a rube anyway, you know, dressed like that in Lambeau. And I really shouldn’t say that anyway, being a Packers fan that owns a Bears jersey (swear I found it at a rummage sale and appreciate it for the aesthetic value). Always did like the GSH shout out to Halas on the sleeve though, and wondered if the Pack would benefit from an ECL on the sleeve for Earl “Curly” Lambeau.

Paul, I think the current term for that POS Ratner wants to build is ‘Darth Arena’. YMMV, of course.

[quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….

[quote comment=”347139″]Any truth rumor that Harry’s grandfather was an American named “Sherman T.”? Was in Korea, I think.[/quote]

Come to think of it, didn’t he mention having an uncle walter at one point?

[quote comment=”347141″]
Yeah, their link would work just as well I think![/quote]

fixed

[quote comment=”347112″]re: ESPN

The “ME” network…or, How we only tell the stories we want and never want to ask real questions & forget that there are markets that may actually NOT INTERESTED in New York Yankees / Boston Red Sox…

When SNY came around, I was so happy…[/quote]

Oh, don’t get this flyover country boy started on the Yanks vs. the Sox. Enough already. FOX Sports is just as guilty on that one.

And Portland Joe, I miss Keith Jackson too.

[quote comment=”347146″][quote comment=”347112″]re: ESPN

The “ME” network…or, How we only tell the stories we want and never want to ask real questions & forget that there are markets that may actually NOT INTERESTED in New York Yankees / Boston Red Sox…

When SNY came around, I was so happy…[/quote]

Oh, don’t get this flyover country boy started on the Yanks vs. the Sox. Enough already. FOX Sports is just as guilty on that one.

And Portland Joe, I miss Keith Jackson too.[/quote]

Ugh.. Yanks-Sox Who Cares! No one west of New York is my guess.

“New York Brickley’s Giants”…Black, Orange, Old Gold & Cream.

Drank a bunch of those back in the 70’s.
(While watching football with the volume turned down and listening to the Bad Brains turned up)

:)

As we head into another Saturday of NCAA football, a relevant observation.

Most effective college nickname ever?
(From the perspective of college age males, that is.)

Tufts Jumbos.

Coeds can choose their teeshirts/sweatshirts
(“Tufts” or “Jumbos”) appropriately.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”347129″][quote comment=”347124″][quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

“Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with link[/quote]
link?[/quote]
It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.[/quote]
Well, it’s on the link so there’s no doubt (it was) used.[/quote]
:D

[quote comment=”347155″][quote comment=”347145″][quote comment=”347140″][quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….[/quote]

How to make ESPN watchable? (besdies bringing back the CFL and Aussie Rules) UniWatch the TV show! C’mon, Paul, pitch that idea![/quote]

An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

Good luck Paul! That would, in fact, be awesome!

An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

Sponsored by……..?

:)

[quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

Sponsored by……..?

:)[/quote]

Nike of course

/ducks

[quote comment=”347160″][quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

Sponsored by……..?

:)[/quote]

Nike of course

/ducks[/quote]

Not by earthlink, I’ll wager.

[quote comment=”347161″][quote comment=”347111″]Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
Have no idea what their colors were, but…

Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

Cincinnati Celts
New York Brickleys Giants
Tonawanda Kardex
Washington Senators

(This oughta be fun).

Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

—Ricko[/quote]

I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.[/quote]

According to Wiki, royal and white.

You make a good point. Maybe would be fun to let the 1921 versions come from DIYers as jerseys….then let the photoshop-oriented folks take it from there, fast forwarding to the 2009 look in photos.

Could stir in a lot of people that way.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”347158″][quote]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

Sponsored by……..?

:)[/quote]

nexium

Yet, the NFL did assist in the filming of BLACK SUNDAY.

I guess they aren’t as down on terrorism.

[quote comment=”347168″]Yet, the NFL did assist in the filming of BLACK SUNDAY.

I guess they aren’t as down on terrorism.[/quote]
Well, it’s not like the players piloted the blimp or anything….

[quote comment=”347129″][quote comment=”347124″][quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

“Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with link[/quote]
link?[/quote]
It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.[/quote]
Well, it’s on the link so there’s no doubt used.[/quote]

And someone made it into a gumball helmet:
link

I have to say, I like the new design for the Barclays Center, but there is one problem with it:
It looks like a giant wang.

[quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

Absolutely nothing! Their lastest CD is awesome btw. In fact one of my fantasy football teams is named Shake Me Like A Monkey

I’ve got some problems logistically with buying the tix, mainly travel distance and work, otherwise….

Does anyone here know what the Bruins design is based on. To me, it looks like a bastardization of the crest from the 1948-48 sweaters, sans 24 and 49 and the sweater, though with various striping patterns, from 1955-67. It seems like they took a page out of the Blackhawks book, with the mongrelization of non-concurrent designs. Just ordered a pair of Pilots stirrups and cannot wait.

[quote comment=”347173″]It’s too bad Georgia Tech downgraded their uniforms starting last year, with the silly striping patterns which have become popular in college football. I’d like to see Tech return to a more traditional look, but add a yellow jacket logo to either the sleeves or pants.[/quote]
The old GT unis were among my favorites. Probably because the first uni I ever got to wear was based on link(as to colors, stripes, numbers only). Glad there’s something we can agree on ;-)

LOVE the Falcons tickets…you should see some of the other ideas Todd has rollin’ around in his head!

Is there an e-mail address I can contact Chris Markham at?

[quote comment=”347185″][quote]I have a plain teal shirt[/quote]

do you wear it with your johnny mac circa 1981 wimbledon shorts?[/quote]

you betcha…

[quote comment=”347183″][quote comment=”347177″][quote comment=”347161″][quote comment=”347111″]Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
Have no idea what their colors were, but…

Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

Cincinnati Celts
New York Brickleys Giants
Tonawanda Kardex
Washington Senators

(This oughta be fun).

Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

—Ricko[/quote]

I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.[/quote]

Maybe a royal jersey with white “friction strips” forming a “W” on the front?

Or did some team already do such a thing back then?[/quote]

I have a plain teal shirt…would that be ’20s enough? ;)[/quote]

Sure. Just call it a “Washington Senators 1921 jersey” and you’re done!

Easiest DIY in history.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

Sponsored by……..?

:)[/quote]

Hillshire Farm? “Go Meat!”

[quote comment=”347191″][quote comment=”347190″][quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

Sponsored by……..?

:)[/quote]

Hillshire Farm? “Go Meat!”[/quote]

Beef: it’s what’s for Dinner. With Matthew M doing the intro
” Now, Live from the Land of Lean Beef…””[/quote]

SPAM just gets no love, does it.

[quote comment=”347134″]a. those Atlanta Falcons throwbacks are pretty much THE perfect football uniform, in my opinion.

b. i like those Bruins’ uni’s. if they use them i’d be okay with it.

c. this might be the best NFL season since the merger for uniforms.[/quote]

Well maybe not perfect, but definitely better than their current uni, (the pants in particular look sharp) maybe a good candidate , along with Buffalo’s to be adopted full time

Interesting to see Niagara hockey team wears silver pants, that’s the closest I’ve seen to recreating the Washington Capitals white pants.

[quote comment=”347151″]Great work, Chris and James!
[/quote]
High praise from a DIY master. Thanks.

[quote comment=”347187″]JTH… what kind of agent did you use for the aged look? Was it Rit dye or something similar?

Looks fantastic![/quote]
Thanks.

Yes, that’s right. It’s Rit. link, to be exact. (Thanks to Robert Marshall for that tip.)

Best 2 bucks I ever spent at Kmart.

[quote comment=”347118″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

“Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
Have no idea what their colors were, but…

Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

Cincinnati Celts
New York Brickleys Giants
Tonawanda Kardex
Washington Senators

(This oughta be fun).

Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

—Ricko[/quote]
Amen, brother. With all that material, it should’ve been excellent.

Can’t believe that was the hill Clooney wanted to die on. If you’re going to pull out of the Guild over a credit dispute, shouldn’t it be because they wouldn’t let you put your name on a good script?[/quote]

why didn’t you guys like the movie?

i thought it was an entertaining movie. plus, i like movies where clooney just acts silly. like o brother, or intolerable cruelty

[quote comment=”347198″][quote comment=”347118″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

“Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
Have no idea what their colors were, but…

Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

Cincinnati Celts
New York Brickleys Giants
Tonawanda Kardex
Washington Senators

(This oughta be fun).

Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

—Ricko[/quote]
Amen, brother. With all that material, it should’ve been excellent.

Can’t believe that was the hill Clooney wanted to die on. If you’re going to pull out of the Guild over a credit dispute, shouldn’t it be because they wouldn’t let you put your name on a good script?[/quote]

why didn’t you guys like the movie?

i thought it was an entertaining movie. plus, i like movies where clooney just acts silly. like o brother, or intolerable cruelty[/quote]

From my standpoint (in no particular order)…
Why the gold/sepia tint to everything? Yeah, old photos look like that, but the world didn’t.
Really, where’s the story arc?
Why is every game played in mud?
Relies WAY to much on period music to establish the era, instead the script.
Oh, wow, the “big game” ends with fiendishly clever play that, in real life, quite probably could never happened. Not that I expect reality in comedy, but I do expect good, inventive comedy.
The “Red Grange” character? Actor looks FAR too much like a basketball player (tall and thin) rather than a mega-star football player.
More development of some of the possibly quite funny minor characters would have given the film a whole lot more depth and charm. Hell, even the BATBOY got his due in THE NATURAL.

(I’ll stop).

—Ricko

Is it me, or do college teams with gold in their scheme have a more liberal interpretation of what their school colors are than other schools when it comes to apparel?

For my school, Georgia Tech, you can go to their official shop and buy a school bus yellow hat to go with a Vegas gold jersey, an old gold flag and a banana yellow t-shirt. Just a handful of schools that I have noticed with the same problem are Wake Forest, Notre Dame, and Baylor. I am sure that there are lots of other examples.

How come these GOLD schools aren’t more strict about what color represents their sports programs? Just curious if anyone else gets bothered about this like I do, or if I’m the oddball. :) I’m betting on ‘oddball’.

Check that. It should be “last letter capitalized”.

Mike N.
I believe you’re a evenball-at least I hope so.
While not as passionate as you sound on the subject, this question of what is “gold” has entered my mind as well. My favorite professional grid teams colors are officially Burgundy and Gold. There hasn’t been any metallic looking gold in their uni since the 70’s. I believe the yellower “gold” has more pop on the TV screen, but those more knowledgeable than I can probably expand on that. Do not give up your quest!

Have you hailed your Skins today?

[quote comment=”347205″][quote comment=”347200″][quote comment=”347198″][quote comment=”347118″][quote comment=”347111″]why didn’t you guys like the movie?

i thought it was an entertaining movie. plus, i like movies where clooney just acts silly. like o brother, or intolerable cruelty[/quote]

From my standpoint (in no particular order)…
Why the gold/sepia tint to everything? Yeah, old photos look like that, but the world didn’t.
Really, where’s the story arc?
Why is every game played in mud?
Relies WAY to much on period music to establish the era, instead the script.
Oh, wow, the “big game” ends with fiendishly clever play that, in real life, quite probably could never happened. Not that I expect reality in comedy, but I do expect good, inventive comedy.
The “Red Grange” character? Actor looks FAR too much like a basketball player (tall and thin) rather than a mega-star football player.
More development of some of the possibly quite funny minor characters would have given the film a whole lot more depth and charm. Hell, even the BATBOY got his due in THE NATURAL.

(I’ll stop).

—Ricko[/quote]

Every game was played in mud because Hollywood loves that stuff. How many movies, commercials, TV shows, etc. have shown football played in a driving rain or in a mudpit? I enjoy a good snow game, or games played on chewed up grass, but the Hollywood depictions are so over the top it’s not funny. If they really wanted to pay homage to old-time football they wouldn’t resort to this tired old cliche.[/quote]

Pre-CISE-ly.

Was thinking after my, um, “rant”…

How many memorable characters–even if we don’t remember their names—are there in LEATHERHEADS? Three?

Now, by comparison, how many in the original LONGEST YARD?

—Ricko

Flyers unveiled their Winter Classic Jerseys today. Here is a link.

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Here is another photo of the rumored Bruin’s Classic Jersey.

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[quote comment=”347113″]We may have a sneak peek at the Boston Bruins’ Winter Classic jersey. This was making the rounds at HFBoards, Icethetics, and Chris Cramer’s site last night.

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It is a screen grab from this video about Tim Thomas and his recent NHL media tour.

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Looks for real; just like my Bruins to make an announcement about unveiling them next week, then let a player wear one for an interview:

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[quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.

[quote comment=”347152″]
Most effective college nickname ever?

Tufts Jumbos.
[/quote]Ricko, you’re aware that Tufts is famous for it’s dental school, don’t you?

[quote comment=”347203″]… is anyone else annoyed with the trend in cap/small cap display text having the last letter capialized?
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How & when did this get started?

And don’t even mention upper/lower/upper case:
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The capitalized last letter when the middle is lc is just wrong from any standpoint.

The last-letter-large thing when all the letters are caps is about as old as written language, so there’s little use arguing against it now. (Seriously, I’ve seen the equivalent of this in ancient Bible manuscripts, and you see it all the time in nineteenth century print advertising and signage.) I’m not a fan of the practice, but I’ve taught myself not to let it bother me too much, since it’s just as unalterably a part of typography as the shape of the letter F. Plus, unlike the capitalized last letter on an lc word, it is possible to do the large last letter in all caps well. See the Washington Nationals for a prime example of how the bookends thing can be done elegantly.

(And that is the only element of the Nats unis I have ever called “elegant.”)

[quote comment=”347216″][quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.[/quote]

(nod of approval)

I’ll risk the UniWatch sanctions and ask if there’s a joke about Georgia “STECH” that I’m not getting.

I’m familar with the SUNY-Atlanta reference, but this is a new one on me.

[quote comment=”347222″][quote comment=”347216″][quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.[/quote]

(nod of approval)[/quote]
Headshots are all you can get from Ted Williams these days, correct?

And usually he has an icy glare on his face.

[quote comment=”347155″][quote comment=”347145″][quote comment=”347140″][quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….[/quote]

How to make ESPN watchable? (besdies bringing back the CFL and Aussie Rules) UniWatch the TV show! C’mon, Paul, pitch that idea![/quote]

An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

Here’s an idea:

Paul hosts a different celebrity sporting event (softball, flag football, 3-on-3 halfcourt hoops, street hockey, indoor soccer, etc.) each week…kinda the Wide World of UniWatch. Celebrity men and women would wear the latest jerseys, or throwbacks, depending on the subject of the day’s show. Paul would do play-by-play, then breaking from the action to give a little more info on the featured unis of the day.

With the female celebrities involved, think of a real-life version of Rob Ullman’s artwork…with short pants, of course.

This could be a way to introduce new unis to the public before the teams wear them, or to showcase some great throwbacks.

Can’t find enough matching throwbacks? No problem – Paul’s highly skilled, highly paid staff of DIY experts could make some for the show…

Think about it. Beats watching poker on ESPN.

[quote comment=”347226″][quote comment=”347222″][quote comment=”347216″][quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.[/quote]

(nod of approval)[/quote]
Headshots are all you can get from Ted Williams these days, correct?

And usually he has an icy glare on his face.[/quote]

Frosted Ted Williams?

Major props to the Flyers for going with the original white jerseys for the Winter Classic…

Is there any question now that they’ll go with the throwback look full time in 2010-2011?

[quote comment=”347229″]An infomercial peddling Starch Blockers beats watching poker on ESPN.[/quote]THE DUAL SAW, SO GOOD WE NEED TWO SPOKESMEN!!

great, ive had the crappiest week ever, and now Paul is ripping on me for being a Dave Matthews Band fan. not cool. as much as Paul hates purple, thats how much i love DMB.

besides this little hiccup, so glad to have uniwatch back. thanks Paul!!

[quote comment=”347237″]I guess I know what Sunday will be like.

10am PT:

Cowboys @ Bucs

FOX
1pm PT:

Niners @ AZ

FOX
1pm PT:

USO Mens Final

CBS
1pm PT:

Giants @ LA

FSN

The way I figure, if Fed doesn’t make the final, I’ll bag the Open. If the Giants get whacked tonite and Sunday, I’ll pass on the Giants. Tho I am wearing my BEAT LA shirt.

And just now, I discovered a PIZZA GUYS SPECIAL flyer on the front door…a positive omen.[/quote]

That is the same lineup I have for sunday, except without the tennis and baseball filler. hmm we must be in the same geographic region… Don’t forget, broncos @ bengals at 10 on cbs

[quote comment=”347237″]I guess I know what Sunday will be like.

USO Mens Final
[/quote]

brinke,

it’s been raining here ALL DAY and the forecast doesn’t look all that promising for tomorrow either…

although we’re looking at about a 2 hour window today (with all three matches scheduled to go off simultaneously) so maybe we get em in, especially if rafa wins that 2nd set tie breaker and the women both only go 2 sets

may be another monday finals…just FYI

finally cleared the inbox…

i couldn’t agree more with jim mothervilker, tech gets a pass because they run the option.

awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?

re:revolutionary stirrup party
i think most of us are smart enough to understand this without me saying anything, but everybody realizes that the use of commie imagery is a joke right? and not about celebrating, or endorsing the 1917 revolution? it’s about the juxtapostion of one kind of zealot with another. or we are as cuckoo for our coco puffs as they were about theirs. and how we, as fanatical partisans, will stop at nothing when it comes to spreading our ideology(he he). who knows, maybe like in real life we will find out that the pajamists had it right all along, but i doubt it. anyway, my personal politics aside, it is in no way politically driven, and i am going to continue to paint us as zealots in one way or another. and don’t forget, as a boy i lived in communist east berlin, so i do have a first hand knowledge of what living in that system was like. there, i said it, so there should be no confusion,hugs kisses and stirrups~rpm

[quote comment=”347243″][quote comment=”347241″][quote comment=”347239″]Anyone else notice that the Nats wore their Stars & Stripes blue alt last night, but wore the regular red home cap, not the alt cap.

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I strongly doubt you.
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And now, you’re definitely mistaken.
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Now THAT’S a softball uniform.

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Ummmm….. yeah.

[quote comment=”347242″]awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?[/quote]
Yeah. I had to play with it to get the cream.

*pause*

First time through, I only used half of the dye powder because I didn’t want it to be too dark. It looked great when I pulled it out of the dye bath, but once I washed it, it looked terrible. So I dumped the rest of the powder into the mixture and did it all over again.

[quote comment=”347249″][quote comment=”347248″][quote comment=”347242″]awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?[/quote]
Yeah. I had to play with it to get the cream.

*pause*

First time through, I only used half of the dye powder because I didn’t want it to be too dark. It looked great when I pulled it out of the dye bath, but once I washed it, it looked terrible. So I dumped the rest of the powder into the mixture and did it all over again.[/quote]

But weren’t the ’59 pins about as white as the World Series stirrups?
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Now, early 50s, that’s something else.

—Ricko[/quote]

think he opted for the set on the right

what the? what i do? did i break it? is some plane going to crash into an island?

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the veracity of throwbackery.

(Actually, by the time White Sox added the shoulder TVs the unis were considerably whiter than their predecessors. Not as white as the doubleknits that would come later, but whiter. I say that because I never thought the original Twins looked cream at all; in fact was struck by the fact that they had achieved “white”. Always wondered if perhaps that was because by the late 50’s teams decided they could afford dry cleaning instead of regular laundry).

—Ricko

’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
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—Ricko

[quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
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—Ricko[/quote]
But the hose definitely look a bit paler, no?

[quote comment=”347259″][quote comment=”347258″][quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
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—Ricko[/quote]
But the hose definitely look a bit paler, no?[/quote]

I agree with your “tinting” from a aethetic point of view, absolutely. Woulda done the same thing.

Re: the photo. Blow it up to 400% or so and you’ll see the stirrups and pants are pretty much the same color.

—Ricko[/quote]

One other thing. Good bet those unis were new for the W-S. A few more laundering/cleanings and they might have gone “cream”.

[quote comment=”347261″][quote comment=”347247″]ESPN talking heads are discussing NFL overtime system.

And, yeah, it’s dumb. Too much depends on coin toss.

But Woody Paige is right in saying ties aren’t the end of the world. What was goofy was the way the NFL treated them, simply throwing them out and going by won-lost percentage based on one less game for the two teams that tied. In theory, back then a team could go 1-0-11, and win the title.

This is probably too simple, but why not just say neither team can attempt a field goal until their second possession of the overtime?

—Ricko[/quote]

Have to disagree about your take on the sudden death rule in the NFL. It’s strange how this question has come out of nowhere the last couple of years. As a Steelers fan, I remember well the 2003 overtime playoff loss to the Titans after losing the coin toss. The format just never bothered me then, or now.
I think the teams that truly deserve to win are able to stop the winner of the coin toss. Don’t like the idea of giving another possession or prohibiting field goals on the first possession by each team. Injuries would increase on both sides if the 5th quarter was artificially extended. Even without injuries, the physical toll a longer overtime period would be a big negative for both teams the following week.
With the NFL possibly moving to a 18 game season, that’s all the more reason not to artificially extend regular season games.[/quote]

Only would be, possibly, two more series per team.
And I was just saying that’s about the least complex alternative.
Cuz don’t like the college solution all that much, either. Seems like a whole different game.

—Ricko

Re:NFL Overtime
How about basing who receives the ball first on some sort of measurable performance for the first four quarters? Say total yardage or time of possession or some geeky fantasy shit. Rather than leave it up to the randomness of a coin flip.
(Or maybe on least accumulated time under arrest for total roster).

re: NFL overtime

im wont to agree with gusto…it aint really broke, so why fix it?

how did they decide the GGEP in 58?

seemed to work then…no way should they change it to either the NC2A format(s) or prohibit a team from kicking a field goal in the first series…what if the defenders STOP the lucky team who wins the coin flip? should THEY be prohibited from kicking a FG? that doesn’t seem very fair…you stopped team x…marched 65 yards back on them, but sorry, you have to go for it on 4th and 4 from the 35

leon may be on to something about the coin flip…

in all seriousness, except in the super bowl, one team is given a home field advantage; why not just establish at the outset that the home team will automatically have the choice to recieve or kick off to begin overtime? it’s as arbitrary as a coin flip, but the home team should be given some consideration (due to schedule in regular season and due to regular season performance in the playoffs)

so…my take: keep it as it is now, but if you change it, DO NOT adopt some college style format, and do not forbid field goals

Jeez, all I said was for one series each, make teams focus on a touchdown. After that, it’s business as usual.

You only get to the 35, either go for it on fourth down and risk giving up somewhat decent field position…or pooch kick. Not so terribly abnormal.

Didn’t say they couldn’t punt.

—Ricko

[quote]in all seriousness, except in the super bowl, one team is given a home field advantage [/quote]

let me just clarify that: im saying that in every regular season game (unless a hurricane renders your stadium unplayable), each team gets 8 home games and 8 away games — that should count for something; in the playoffs, you earn the home field, and that also ought to count for something…super bowl’s “home” team (unlike the world series, where an exhibition game determines such) is decided based on AFC-NFC rotation … so in that instance, a coin-flip is only “fair” way to determine choice of possession in overtime

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one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter — just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters — change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

[quote comment=”347268″]Jeez, all I said was for one series each, make teams focus on a touchdown. After that, it’s business as usual.

You only get to the 35, either go for it on fourth down and risk giving up somewhat decent field position…or pooch kick. Not so terribly abnormal.

Didn’t say they couldn’t punt.

—Ricko[/quote]

re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.

Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look–and feel–way too easy that way.

I’m NOT saying change the present model. Just saying if the quick FG bugs people (and coaches and players, btw), just push it into the background for one series each. It would be the least gonzo way to modify things a little.

—Ricko

Interesting Oregon numerical picture. In one of my Ohio State Michigan books it has some rosters in it. Back in the Chic Harley, Ohio State’s 1st superstar. The Buckeyes starting lineup went from #1 and up numerically. In that game it had Chic Harley as #10

[quote]re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.[/quote]

i still think it would have been the GGEP, no matter how it ended, or how quickly

[quote]Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look—and feel—way too easy that way.[/quote]

maybe so, maybe not … i was under the impression that, perhaps due to the “magnitude” of the game, but more likely condition of the field, time of evening (by that time), and lack of faith in steve myrha, despite his last second kick to send the game into overtime (remember, field goals then were hardly givens, especially on a cold december day with swirling yankee stadium winds)…weeb wanted to make sure
… by running it in

not saying they wouldn’t or couldn’t have kicked it before ameche’s run…but weeb knew the giants were exhausted and he was probably pretty sure (especially with johnny u) that a touchdown was a given…and inevitable

Haven’t yet read the main entry, the ticker or even the comments so forgive me if this is a repeat. Jays and Tigers (and even the umps) are wearing red caps with the star-spangled logo. I suppose the Jays are wearing the Maple leaf-spangled logo. To top if off, Toronto is wearing the black alt tops and gray pants. Even if I had screengrab capabilities, I wouldn’t.

P.S: Wicked sideburns on that Jays pitcher!

So Jeter could get the Yankees hit record today, in an event that will be replayed for years… In a game featuring those damned red hats. At least he’ll be wearing a batting helmet for the moment itself.

Yuck.

Jays @ Tigers:

As someone mentioned, Jays are wearing their black alt jerseys paired with their gray road pants. Now, the Jays generally wear their black jerseys with their white pants, and they do so for home night games, not away games. Something’s up. Maybe the black jerseys matched the hideous red 9/11 hats better? Also, something bugs me about a Canadian team having to wear American flag imagery on their hats, but that’s a whole other story.

Jays pitcher Brian Tallet, who’s been an on-again off-again darling for his flirtations with stirrups, has gone pajamas-pantsed for this one – guess his last outing with stirrups on didn’t go too well. I suppose a combination of red hats, black jerseys, gray pants, stirrups and giant muttonchops would be such a uni-overload that Paul would have a heart attack at the sight of a professional baseball player looking like that.

[quote comment=”347260″][quote comment=”347259″][quote comment=”347258″][quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
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—Ricko[/quote]
But the hose definitely look a bit paler, no?[/quote]

I agree with your “tinting” from a aethetic point of view, absolutely. Woulda done the same thing.

Re: the photo. Blow it up to 400% or so and you’ll see the stirrups and pants are pretty much the same color.

—Ricko[/quote]

One other thing. Good bet those unis were new for the W-S. A few more laundering/cleanings and they might have gone “cream”.[/quote]
You’re right. Blow up the photo and everything appears to be white. Must be a trick of the shadows + the pinstripes making the fabric appear off-white.

I’m also watching some CFL, Hamilton and Toronto are both wearing neat throwback jerseys – and given the history of these teams (the clubs go back to the 1860s and 1870s respectively) these could be paying homage to anywhere within the past century, I’m not enough of a CFL uni purist to know. The unis themselves are nice, but they’re totally ruined by the advertising patches near the shoulders (pretty much standard for CFL uniforms, I hope that’s not a shock to American readers).

Then there’s the horrible look of the Rogers Centre field they’re playing on. When the Jays and Argos have back-to-back games (Jays played at the Centre née Skydome yesterday) they don’t have time to fully change over from the baseball setup, and it just looks awful with bases in the middle of the field combined with giant Tim Hortons and Wendy’s ads painted on the turf. But hey, it’s the CFL.

[quote comment=”347286″]I’m also watching some CFL, Hamilton and Toronto are both wearing neat throwback jerseys – and given the history of these teams (the clubs go back to the 1860s and 1870s respectively) these could be paying homage to anywhere within the past century, I’m not enough of a CFL uni purist to know. The unis themselves are nice, but they’re totally ruined by the advertising patches near the shoulders (pretty much standard for CFL uniforms, I hope that’s not a shock to American readers).

Then there’s the horrible look of the Rogers Centre field they’re playing on. When the Jays and Argos have back-to-back games (Jays played at the Centre née Skydome yesterday) they don’t have time to fully change over from the baseball setup, and it just looks awful with bases in the middle of the field combined with giant Tim Hortons and Wendy’s ads painted on the turf. But hey, it’s the CFL.[/quote]

The field is in a lot better shape these days. Ten years ago they had those mismatched strips of astroturf which were uglier than the ads. I don’t mind the dirt area (kinda old-school), and if you’re going to have ads at least Tim Horton’s is a good one to have. Just trying to find the silver lining in the cloud…

[quote comment=”347285″][quote comment=”347277″][quote comment=”347276″][quote]re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.[/quote]

i still think it would have been the GGEP, no matter how it ended, or how quickly

[quote]Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look—and feel—way too easy that way.[/quote]

maybe so, maybe not … i was under the impression that, perhaps due to the “magnitude” of the game, but more likely condition of the field, time of evening (by that time), and lack of faith in steve myrha, despite his last second kick to send the game into overtime (remember, field goals then were hardly givens, especially on a cold december day with swirling yankee stadium winds)…weeb wanted to make sure
… by running it in

not saying they wouldn’t or couldn’t have kicked it before ameche’s run…but weeb knew the giants were exhausted and he was probably pretty sure (especially with johnny u) that a touchdown was a given…and inevitable[/quote]

Central point: Was more exciting cuz they went all the way to the endzone. And virtually any NFL OT that ends with an TD—or if the FG came after each team has had a possession–just seems to leave everyone with a better feeling. Even if the opening kickoff gets run back it feels better.

Maybe we could call it minimizing The Gramatica Effect. LOL

—Ricko[/quote]

I don’t like anything that suggests minimizing the kicking game. Whether or not the big tubs of goo who block and tackle like it, kickers are just as much a part of the game. If a nose tackle sits on a QB in the endzone for a safety, is that any better way to end a game than if a kicker wins it with a field goal? It’s called “FOOTball” for a reason. Let’s not diminish the role of the guys who put the foot in football.[/quote]

And a great coffin corner kick that pins a team inside their five after the first possession in OT doesn’t emphasize the kicking game?

LOL. Now I’m just pullin’ your chain a little.

The real point is, short of going to the college system or something close to it there really isn’t a better way.

Except playing additional OT’s if necessary. :)

—Ricko

[quote comment=”347291″]Ads or no ads, those are some sweet throwbacks, eh?
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Speaking of sweet, anyone looking forward to the sight of UCLA vs. Tennessee?[/quote]

Yes on both counts. The powder and white UCLA jerseys were SO different in their day. Likewise the Ti-Cats’ multi-striped sleeves. Wildly different from one another, but two of the all-time best.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”347290″][quote comment=”347285″][quote comment=”347277″][quote comment=”347276″][quote]I don’t like anything that suggests minimizing the kicking game. Whether or not the big tubs of goo who block and tackle like it, kickers are just as much a part of the game. If a nose tackle sits on a QB in the endzone for a safety, is that any better way to end a game than if a kicker wins it with a field goal? It’s called “FOOTball” for a reason. Let’s not diminish the role of the guys who put the foot in football.[/quote]

And a great coffin corner kick that pins a team inside their five after the first possession in OT doesn’t emphasize the kicking game?

LOL. Now I’m just pullin’ your chain a little.

The real point is, short of going to the college system or something close to it there really isn’t a better way.

Except playing additional OT’s if necessary. :)

—Ricko[/quote]

I saw where you were coming from; just that the mention of the name Gramatica tends to rile up those who would like to do away with kickers. We must not encourage these dangerous people in any way. ;)

If I were Weeb I probably would have ran it in too. Myhra didn’t look like a sure-thing kicker from the films I saw of him.

[quote] it just looks awful with bases in the middle of the field[/quote]

please tell me you just mean infield dirt

i mean, they don’t leave the bags in the ground for a football game, right?

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[quote]Can’t have an early game running too far into the late games, or a late game running too far into the Sunday night game.[/quote]

yes on the first count

im sure fox or cbs wouldn’t really care if they ran into nbc’s game

[quote comment=”347297″][quote comment=”347271″]one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter – just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters – change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

Like this idea unless there is some sort of wind advantage that a team might “stall” into. (no pun intended, pilots out there).

of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

me either[/quote]
The problem with treating the start of OT like a quarter change is that there’s absolutely no incentive for the offensive team to win it in regulation if the score is tied. At least when faced with the prospect of having to kick the ball away if they don’t, there’s a sense of urgency to score.

Of course, that might actually speed the game up because there would no longer be a reason to call timeouts inside the last 2 minutes, for ball carriers to run out of bounds, for QB’s to spike the ball…[/quote]

what aboot this then…if they don’t score on the last play to tie (which would then result in them having to kick off to start OT)…

they are required to “restart” from their own 20 no matter where they ended their possession

[quote comment=”347298″][quote comment=”347297″][quote comment=”347271″]one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter – just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters – change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

Like this idea unless there is some sort of wind advantage that a team might “stall” into. (no pun intended, pilots out there).

of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

me either[/quote]
The problem with treating the start of OT like a quarter change is that there’s absolutely no incentive for the offensive team to win it in regulation if the score is tied. At least when faced with the prospect of having to kick the ball away if they don’t, there’s a sense of urgency to score.

Of course, that might actually speed the game up because there would no longer be a reason to call timeouts inside the last 2 minutes, for ball carriers to run out of bounds, for QB’s to spike the ball…[/quote]

what aboot this then…if they don’t score on the last play to tie (which would then result in them having to kick off to start OT)…

they are required to “restart” from their own 20 no matter where they ended their possession[/quote]
Yeah. Not bad. Unless of course the game ended with them inside their own 20, then I’d imagine they’d need to pick it up from that spot.

OK, that settles it. On to the competition committee with this. Maybe Joe Skiba can pass it along to John Mara.

[quote comment=”347240″][quote comment=”347237″]I guess I know what Sunday will be like.

USO Mens Final
[/quote]

brinke,

it’s been raining here ALL DAY and the forecast doesn’t look all that promising for tomorrow either…

although we’re looking at about a 2 hour window today (with all three matches scheduled to go off simultaneously) so maybe we get em in, especially if rafa wins that 2nd set tie breaker and the women both only go 2 sets

may be another monday finals…just FYI[/quote]

Yeah I saw the radar. Figures, sunny for two weeks, and then BAM.

[quote]Yeah. Not bad. Unless of course the game ended with them inside their own 20, then I’d imagine they’d need to pick it up from that spot.[/quote]

yes…

just thought of another problem…what if the game ends and it’s like fourth and 30 (could happen)…do they get a fresh set of downs in OT with 20 yard line start?

(and to answer my question from earlier — no, they removed the bases, but agree, looks odd with infield dirt)

[quote comment=”347304″][quote]Yeah. Not bad. Unless of course the game ended with them inside their own 20, then I’d imagine they’d need to pick it up from that spot.[/quote]

yes…

just thought of another problem…what if the game ends and it’s like fourth and 30 (could happen)…do they get a fresh set of downs in OT with 20 yard line start?

(and to answer my question from earlier — no, they removed the bases, but agree, looks odd with infield dirt)[/quote]
If it’s 4th and 30 when the 4th ends, it’s 4th and 30 when OT starts.

[quote]If it’s 4th and 30 when the 4th ends, it’s 4th and 30 when OT starts.[/quote]

on the 20?

or at the spot?

My 2 cents on the NFL OT debate…..current rules, but with one exception: If team A wins the OT coin toss and goes down to score on the opening drive (either FG or TD), then team B gets one drive (beginning with receiving the kickoff) to go down and score. They must go for the win, and cannot force another tie score (if team A scored a TD, team B must score a TD and go for 2-point conversion). If Team B holds Team A on opening possession of OT and forces a punt or turnover, then regular OT rules apply (sudden-death), but a tie still would be possible except in playoff situations as it currently is.

[quote comment=”347311″]To all of my UW friends: I apologize for slacking in the comments section but I have been INCREDIBLY BUSY lately.[/quote]

pics?

[quote]Did any one catch Larry Jordan’s speech at the HOF Induction ceremony?[/quote]

the what now?

[quote]He mentioned something that has been KILLING me for 15 years…In MJ’s return against Indiana, he wore his shorts backward.

This had been urking me for so long that this might have been my UW turning point![/quote]

turning point?

[quote comment=”347313″]
Notice the lacking NBA logo on MJ’s right thigh…it was on his back left hamstring:

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As opposed to what other left hamstring?

[quote comment=”347310″]My 2 cents on the NFL OT debate…..current rules, but with one exception:

If team A wins the OT coin toss and goes down to score on the opening drive (either FG or TD), then team B gets one drive (beginning with receiving the kickoff) to go down and score. They must go for the win, and cannot force another tie score (if team A scored a TD, team B must score a TD and go for 2-point conversion). If Team B holds Team A on opening possession of OT and forces a punt or turnover, then regular OT rules apply (sudden-death), but a tie still would be possible except in playoff situations as it currently is.[/quote]

Totally agree with this. Makes more sense than any other argument I’ve read here. Simple, effective and fair (something the current system is not).

[quote comment=”347315″]Great player, yes. Overrated, yes.

Can’t see retiring leaguewide the number of the guy who practically legalized traveling (take a look at the old films – Dr. J took two steps, MJ took several more), or who was one of the biggest ballhogs in the world. I think Magic was better than Jordan anyway. The Bulls had to go out and get better players to help Jordan win a title. Magic won titles by making his players better. And his FG percentage was higher than Mike’s too.

Let his jersey hang from the rafters of “New Chicago Stadium,” but let the rest of the league wear #23. He was a great player, one of the greatest, but not THE greatest.[/quote]
Overrated? In what respect? Because he traveled legally? Please. And there were guys, like Dominique Wilkins to name one, doing it before Jordan came along so don’t say he legalized it.

I’m not going to get into the Magic vs. Michael argument with you. If you think Magic was better, fine. (but are you basing part of that on the fact that Magic’s career FG% was 2 points higher?) If you think Julius Erving was better, OK. If you think Lebron James is better, that’s great.

But there’s a good reason the Bulls had to go out and get better players to win a title. (Wait. A title? Try 6 in an 8-year span.) They were doormats before he was drafted. The Lakers? Magic Johson was the final piece of the championship puzzle in his rookie season. It was already a solid team that happened to have a guy on it guy by the name of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and later would add James Worthy.

Who was sharing the court with Michael Jordan his first few years? Guys like Dave Corzine, Brad Sellers, Granville Waiters, Gene Banks and Sam Vincent. How often do you see a team with one superstar and a bunch of nobodies win championships?

As for the “making players around him better” argument, do you really think Jordan didn’t make Scottie Pippen* a better player? Or BJ Armstrong? Or John Paxson? Or Jud Buecheler, Steve Kerr, Craig Hodges, Bill Cartwright, Horace Grant, Luc Longley, et cetera, et cetera?

* Not to take anything away from Scottie. There’s no way the Bulls win 6 championships without him.

Chris,

Great piece. Can you shed some info as to why the original logo was changed. I understand that the Rockies faced a copyroght infraction putting the ball in the middle of the logo and had to move it higher up.

I also seemed to remember reading in SI a number of years ago that they faced problems with the interlocking CR on the cap. A company Chemical Resources claimed they had a copyright on that logo.

I appreciate any info.

[quote comment=”347318″][quote comment=”347315″]Great player, yes. Overrated, yes.

Can’t see retiring leaguewide the number of the guy who practically legalized traveling (take a look at the old films – Dr. J took two steps, MJ took several more), or who was one of the biggest ballhogs in the world. I think Magic was better than Jordan anyway. The Bulls had to go out and get better players to help Jordan win a title. Magic won titles by making his players better. And his FG percentage was higher than Mike’s too.

Let his jersey hang from the rafters of “New Chicago Stadium,” but let the rest of the league wear #23. He was a great player, one of the greatest, but not THE greatest.[/quote]
Overrated? In what respect? Because he traveled legally? Please. And there were guys, like Dominique Wilkins to name one, doing it before Jordan came along so don’t say he legalized it.

I’m not going to get into the Magic vs. Michael argument with you. If you think Magic was better, fine. (but are you basing part of that on the fact that Magic’s career FG% was 2 points higher?) If you think Julius Erving was better, OK. If you think Lebron James is better, that’s great.

But there’s a good reason the Bulls had to go out and get better players to win a title. (Wait. A title? Try 6 in an 8-year span.) They were doormats before he was drafted. The Lakers? Magic Johson was the final piece of the championship puzzle in his rookie season. It was already a solid team that happened to have a guy on it guy by the name of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and later would add James Worthy.

Who was sharing the court with Michael Jordan his first few years? Guys like Dave Corzine, Brad Sellers, Granville Waiters, Gene Banks and Sam Vincent. How often do you see a team with one superstar and a bunch of nobodies win championships?

As for the “making players around him better” argument, do you really think Jordan didn’t make Scottie Pippen* a better player? Or BJ Armstrong? Or John Paxson? Or Jud Buecheler, Steve Kerr, Craig Hodges, Bill Cartwright, Horace Grant, Luc Longley, et cetera, et cetera?

* Not to take anything away from Scottie. There’s no way the Bulls win 6 championships without him.[/quote]

sam vincent was the greatest player of all time next world b free, and sugar ray richardson.

[quote comment=”347323″][quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
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—Ricko[/quote]
son of a saginaw fisherman, i like it cream either way. and i am going to find something from 59 that looks creamy.[/quote]

White socks with cream? How classic Wimbledon.

Or maybe Boca Raton.