By Phil Hecken
What if … your favorite baseball team had different colors? Specifically, what if, instead of adopting the colors they currently wear, instead they chose the predominant colors from the city (or State) flag for the colors in their uniforms? Recently, reader Hungry Hungry Hipster had been doing “city flag jerseys” (I think they’re soccer kits, but I suppose they could be for any number of sports), and that got me to thinking — what if baseball teams had adopted the colors of their city and how might those teams look if they were dressed in those colors with todays uniforms? While you know I am not a graphic artist, I spent the greater part of a week attempting to see how major league teams would look if they donned a bit more local flavor. I think what follows turned out OK.
Aside from a quick and interesting history lesson in some city’s flags, I learned a couple of other things about how teams would look dressed all local-like. Some teams don’t look all that bad, some don’t look all that good, and some don’t look all that different (as we’ll see). I’d even go so far as to say that some teams look better sporting city flag colors. It will come as no surprise that the Steel City already dresses its teams in city colors, while others bear a striking resemblance (whether this is intentional or not is a debate for another day).
Aside from adding stirrups and sock stripes, and in most cases removing the “PLAYER” name from the jersey (and an occasional patch), I attempted to faithfully recreate a teams current uniform scheme, so as to better give a visual perspective. In each case, I’ll note any changes I made to a uniform (some were necessary) but what follows is a “What If…” segment. Lets begin with the junior circuit:
Baltimore: The Orioles, whose name is ornithologically derived, are obviously black and orange. It’s a classic uniform, no doubt. But the flag of Baltimore is yellow/gold (for the most part) and not all that far off from the current Orioles colorscheme. Adding the yellow and dropping the orange everywhere but on the bird logo and that of the shoulder patch yields this uniform. It’s not a bad look at all. On the stirrups I added the yellow/gold sanitaries, instead of white and some stripes as well. Hard to argue removing the orange in favor of the yellow, but it’s not a bad combo if you used the Baltimore City flag colors.
Boston: OK. The “Red Sox” is obviously in reference to hosiery the Boston team (usually) wears, so it’s very tough to make any kind of case for putting the Boston City flag colors on the Red Sox uniform. But I gave it a shot, just for shits and giggles. Obviously, you’d need to keep the “Red Sox” patch on the shoulder, so I left that alone, but here’s how the road uniform would look in the aqua (?) and yellow of that city’s flag. Not good. And the home uniform? Not much better, although that’s not a completely horrible color scheme. Just not on a team called the “Red Sox.”
Chicago: OK, here it starts to get very interesting. The women’s professional soccer team, the Chicago Red Stars already use the city colors (not to mention the flag itself) as the basis for their uniform. And, as you will see later this week, the Chicago White Sox have reinvented themselves about 100 times over their history with different uniform schemes and colors. So how might the White Sox look wearing a uniform sporting their city’s colors? Well … here is how they would look if they used the blue element in their uniforms. And, here is the red element. But what if we combined the two? Well then, you’d have something like this. Whoa. I’ve seen that look somewhere before. Did the 1970’s White Sox chose the colors from their City flag for their uniforms? Hard to say, with absolute certainty, because they’d worn red before in their history and also powder blue, but never at the same time. Was this a semi-conscious effort, or just dumb luck? Or perhaps, one from column A and one from column B. Either way, it’s food for thought.
Cleveland: Here is an example where the current uniform colors are almost identical to the colors of the Cleveland flag. So the uniforms wouldn’t look all that much different. Did the powers-that-be who came up with the current uniform color scheme reference the city flag? Probably not, since the red, white and blue in the flag have often been used in the teams uniforms, but then again, maybe that was intentional. But either way, the Indians wouldn’t look too much different than they do now. That being said, here’s the road uniform (with stirrup stripes attempting to mimic the flag pattern) and home uniform (for the home, I picked up the green “laurels” from the city flag for additional effect).
Detroit: Wow. Lots of colors in that city flag. Too many to really put onto a uniform that is currently only two colors (not counting white or gray as a color). But we can use the red and blue and try to work them in there. What you get is a home uniform that takes on a full additional color from it’s current state. Looks kind of busy, even though it’s only one more color than they have now. However, that same effect, even with the addition of yellow in the Old English “D” on the cap, looks much better when applied to the road uniform. I might have overdone it a bit on those away uni stirrup stripes, but I wanted to see how the socks would look if they mimicked the flag’s pattern more closely. Probably should have kept them plain dark blue.
Kansas City: I’m actually not quite sure which flag is correct for this fine city, and since it’s very similar to this flag (in terms of the color scheme), I used both. Being partial to those cities which choose to incorporate the colors of the flag of the United States into their city flag, I rather like how the Royals might look if they were to sport the Kansas City flag’s colors. The blue goes from “royal” to “navy” and the gold becomes red. Here’s the home uniform and the road uniform in city flag colors. I kind of like this. There is a slight problem in reconciling the team name (“Royals”) and removing the royal blue color from the uniform. But it’s interesting.
Los Angeles: Ah ha … the first true quandry i faced, because the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim aren’t technically from Los Angeles. But this is the flag of the City of Anaheim. And it’s pretty boring. So I chose the LA flag for the Angels. I probably should have worked with a few more combinations than the one I eventually chose. But since the Angels refuse to acknowledge any city at all on their jersey, they only get one mockup. The stirrup stripes might have been a bit much, but again, I wanted to replicate the city flag colors on them.
Minnesota: Yet another slight bit of complexity here, since the Twins are one of those teams who don’t have a “city” in which they play (at least officially), but a state. So, do I use the State flag’s colors, or those of Minneapolis or St. Paul? Gotta go with what’s on the front of the uniform, of course, so that’s the Minnesota State flag. And, since the flag is predominantly blue, that means the Twins uniforms will have that as their main color. I actually like home uniform better with the blue lettering than the current red. As far as the road uniform, I stuck with the red with blue outlines for city name and numbers. However, since pinstripes do not belong on road uniforms, I had to remove them.
New York: The “New York” comes from playing in New York City, so we’ll go with the New York City flag here. But, don’t dey play in da Bronx? Yep. But the flag of Bronx County looks almost identical, at least from a color perspective. So, for those fans of the Mets (or any team really, but especially Mets fans) who hate the Yankees, you may want to look away. Here’s the vanuted pinstripes using the NYC flag colors. There’s not much difference using the colors of the Bronx flag, but here is that rendering. After ‘creating’ this, I couldn’t even bring myself to do an away uniform.
Oakland: Now this is really interesting. The colors of Oakland’s flag are pretty similar, eerily so, to those of the Athletics. Why so eerie, you ask? We’ve already seen that some teams may (or may not) have chosen to incorporate their cities flags’ color scheme into their uniform, so why is Oakland so special? Because, the A’s sported their color scheme since they played in Kansas City! And I highly doubt Charley Finley knew when he introduced the world to yellow and green on a baseball uniform that he’d be moving his team to Oakland. Or did he? Certainly something to ponder, if nothing else. Anyway, here’s the A’s home uniform and their road uniform in city flag colors. Looks so different from their current get ups. (Note to self…NEVER put stripes on the A’s socks again.)
Seattle: That is an, um, interesting flag. Lots of swirly stuff (what’s that? waves you say? gotcha). And what color is that, anyway — teal? aqua? OK. It’s that City’s flag, and it’s in two colors, so lets work with it. I tried to render this uniform using just the teal and white, but it looked awful. So, I re-added the current blue for a bit of color contrast. Here’s what we get. I give you the Seattle Mariners in city flag gory glory. This would be one team to whose city flag colors I would never recommend changing.
Tampa (Bay): For the Rays, I had to render their flag in both the Tampa colors and those of St. Petersburg as well. The Sunshine State’s west coast seems to have some very interesting flags, don’t they? I really dig that St. Pete flag, but with FIVE dominant colors, there’s no way to render the uniform with all of them (so we’ll stick to the socks). Anyway, lets tackle the Tampa version first. With four colors in their flag, and none more dominant than another, I thought I’d just use them all. Probably not a great idea, but it’s not like the Rays have any great uniform history to begin with. I think their original had more colors. Anyway, with that in mind, I didn’t feel so bad putting four colors in their current uniform. As for the St. Pete version — I got all all five colors in there, albeit two of them were relegated to the stirrups. Interesting and colorful, if nothing else.
Texas: Well, not much to say or do here. The Texas Texases wear their State flag on their uniform, so it’s no surprise their colors stem from it. Both the home uniform and the road uniform don’t change under the “city flag colors” renderings.
Toronto: Rounding out the junior circuit is the only team from north of the border. The Toronto flag is kinda cool, though. And since there is no black in it, I get to render the BLUE Jays in a more appropriate color colour. The nice blue and red in the flag aren’t exactly new colors for the Jays, but they are slightly different from what they have now, or what they wore in the past. So, here’s the home uniform and the road uniform. I’m NOT liking the beveled numbers however (and the letters are no picnic either). Just for the hell of it, and since the Jays once wore powder blue on the road, I thought I’d see how they look if we rendered their uniform in the colors of their flag. I probably should not have. Because here’s what I came up with. Not good. I do think the “Toronto” and the numbers look better when rendered in a solid pattern however. But that’s about the only good thing I can say.
Well, there you have it. The American League rendered in the colors of the flags of their cities. (Please don’t beat me up too bad for the graphics — I’m NOT a graphic artist, nor do I claim to be one — I just wanted to give an idea of how these things would look). I’m NOT saying I’d advocate any of the teams change their colors (well — maybe one, but I’ll have more on them this week, along with some guest artists). But as an exercise in futility, I thought it might be interesting to see how the leagues would look if they took their colors from the flag of the place they play. I’ll be back at some point with the National League. But that’s all for today. Let me know what you think!
Last evening, the Crew & Bravos engaged in a little Negro League throwback game. Ever vigilant, Brewer fans extraordinaire Johnny Okray and Nicole Haase were all over this, with Johnny sending me some pics and Nicole actually attending the game and taking a few pics from the stands. Johnny begins:
I know you know the Brewers threw back to the 1923 Milwaukee Bears, and the Braves threw back to the 1919-52 Atlanta Black Crackers today for a Negro League tribute of sorts. I say “of sorts” because I bet those teams never wore their unis as baggy as the guys do today. Anyways, I just wanted to send you a picture of the mound today. The Crew always like to change their mound logo when the uni changes, and today was no different. Here are a few more:
The hat looks awesome, but when are they going to make throw back shoes?. Other wise this picture would be awesome!
Thanks Johnny. He notes that additional photos can be found at Yahoo Sports and on The Mothership.
Next up is Nicole, who was at the game, and has a nice little writeup on it:
The Milwaukee Brewers hosted the Atlanta Braves in their third annual Negro Leagues tribute game. The Brewers wore the 1923 uniforms of the Milwaukee Bears and Atlanta wore the 1926 uniforms of the Atlanta Black Crackers.
The cream and blue unis were, in my opinion, a definite upgrade for the Brewers from the white with black pinstripes unis they’ve worn during the past two year’s Negro League games.
The Bears jersey had the look of a vest with undershirt, but wasn’t actually. The pants featured color butt-pocket flaps and belt loops. For most everyone around me, the hat was the star of the uni.
The Black Crackers jerseys were very simple, with red piping on the jersey and a simple red “Atlanta” across the chest and a red A on the navy hat.
Only Nate McClouth and Casey Kotchman of the Braves and Prince Fielder (shown here with Kotchman) ruined the look by not wearing high pants/socks. Kotchman appeared to have elastic in the bottom, but wore them at the ankle. Taking it a step better, in this picture of the guys in the dugout, on the far left you’ll see Jeff Suppan wearing real stirrups to complete the look.
Aside: Braves’ young phenom Tommy Hanson has TH branded cleats. And the BF and I met Ryan Braun after the game while getting dinner.
Full gallery here.
Thanks Nicole! Also, be sure to check out her website, which is awesome, and which she bills as “Sports…from a chick’s perspective.” Great stuff.
In case you missed it yesterday, it’s almost that time again — time for round two of the Uni Tracking we began at the beginning of the season, and you guys so aptly displayed graphically and in print in May and June. Response to the first call for “uni trackers” was tremendous, and I’m interested to see how everyone’s team is faring now that we’re almost 2/3rds of the way through the season. So, if you’re one of the many insane dedicated people who put yourselves through this exercise, contact me this week and I’ll think about how we’ll go about round 2 of the tracking. I think we need to keep the “replies” a bit shorter, but we still need the important info. I’ll come up with “guidelines” in the next week, and let you know when the next round (figure the second weekend in August) will transpire. Thanks to everyone who has participated thus far. I look forward to your updated tracking and trends. When you send me your email, please put Uni Tracking in the “subject” line. Judging from the number of e-mails I got on this (all of one), I’m hoping interest in this is not waning. Simply contact me and let me know if you’re still interested — I’ll get back to you with the “specs” when I come up with them. OK? OK???? OK.
Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: OK. Today’s scoreboard should NOT be that difficult, since you should be able to narrow everything down right from the get go. The scoreboard itself, the teams, and the player pictured are all clues. It’s just a matter of narrowing it even further. And that shouldn’t be all that difficult. Ready? Guess The Game. As always, link to Retrosheet of Baseball Almanac, and tell us what it was about the picture that led you to your answer.
Since we had ARATT (“all Ricko, all the time”) yesterday, we’re only going to have one Sunday Benches today. I’m pretty sure the boys of Benchies don’t wear their city uni colors on their softball uniforms, but hey, you never know. So, with that introduction, I present you with Sunday Benchies for today. Enjoy.
The MLB Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony is today, and the Hall will be welcoming Rickey Henderson, Jim Rice and Joe Gordon (from “pre-1943”) days. You can read more about it here. Will be interesting to hear Rickey’s speech — and whether he’s just Rickey being Rickey … Brinke Guthrie (“eknirb” “=bg=”) notes that the San Francisco Giants will honor Sue Burns, their deceased senior general partner, on Monday. … And finally, Doug Keklak (“Kek”) draws our attention to this trip down memory lane. Thanks, fellas.
OK. That will do it for today. Enjoy your Sunday.
re: Orioles in city flag colors.
Maybe explains why this was black and gold and not black and orange?
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—Ricko
I’m pretty sure it’s this game:
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(STOP READING HERE IF YOU WANT TO PLAY ALONG.)
My thought process:
1. Okay, it’s a Mets home game. (Maybe I’m wrong, and it’s an out-of-town video clip, ’cause I’m not yet familiar enough with the scoreboard at the new Shea to identify it on sight, but I’m going with it.)
2. The Mets are wearing their Inaugural Season 2009 patch, so it’s from this season.
3. The Phillies are the opponent. The Phillies have played five games so far in New York.
4. The game listed above was the only one of the five to be scoreless after three innings.
And that’s it.
And no, my link isn’t to Retrosheet or Baseball Almanac. So sue me.
That’s an awful of of red & blue there!
Vanuted? did you mean vaunted? A Freudian NYY hate typo? Yeah, I do it too. All the time. When I type Rat Sux. Wait—that’s not a typo…
Wow Nicole! Great pics from yesterday’s game! Your seats were amazing. Were they right by the Door Man?
Those Negro League tribute unis were the best ones they have had so far. Awesome pics again. And you got to meet Ryan Braun! Sounds like a great night to me.
Another comment from yesterday’s 1978 All-Star Game replay on MLB Network… As the home team, all NL representatives were in their white uniforms – except for the Pirates, who were wearing all black with the yellow pillbox hats. Really strange.
I said it before and I will say it again. I love the White Sox in the early 70’s look. Great job on the jersey’s. I have no problem messing with the Tigers road jersey, but the Tigers home jerseys are perfect and need no change. I like the Detroit road jerseys shown.
Great work Phil. Can’t wait to see the Giants in Seattle Pilot/early Brewer colors. Yellow cap perhaps?
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You do know that the Royals were named for the annual livestock show, yes? It has nothing to do with the color “royal blue” but it works out in the end anyway. When I think of royalty, I do think of royal blue (blue-bloods) or even…gasp…purple. As far as that Rays jersey, it would have been neat to see a rainbow guts version based off the St. Pete flag.
The Brewers throwbacks were very nice. Definitely going to pick one up when they do the charity auction for them in a few weeks.
[quote comment=”342214″]You do know that the Royals were named for the annual livestock show, yes? It has nothing to do with the color “royal blue” but it works out in the end anyway. When I think of royalty, I do think of royal blue (blue-bloods) or even…gasp…purple. As far as that Rays jersey, it would have been neat to see a rainbow guts version based off the St. Pete flag.[/quote]
yup…named for the “american royal livestock show” or something — which has been held in KC since like the turn of the 20th century
but yes, when they adopt the color of royal blue, and stick a crown on their uniform, it’s easy to assume they simply took their name from the color or in reference to “royalty”
[quote comment=”342212″]Great work Phil. Can’t wait to see the Giants in Seattle Pilot/early Brewer colors. Yellow cap perhaps?
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thanks stu
i’ve only done the road uni for the giants so far, and that doesn’t have a yellow cap (maybe i’ll put one on there for the home), but i did put in an interesting ‘tweak’ for the road…stay tuned ;)
Thought the Blue Jays unis were a massive upgrade. Take the last rendering and give it white pants (Hey, it’s in the flag) and you’ve got a really good, 80’s Cubs style away uniform.
Just to make them look totally foolish (which is our obligation if you can’t stand the Yanks, no?) a rendering of the Yankees in NYC Orange pinstripes would be sweeeeet.
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That Baskin-Robbins ad from Kek’s memory lane contribution reminds me of a place called Zip’z. It was like a stripped-down Dairy Queen. You could get your ice cream in a helmet bowl (either MLB or NFL teams!) and then take it over to the topping bar to load it up with whatever nausea-inducing combination struck your fancy that day. It was awesome.
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I kinda dug almost all of the city flag uni rederings. As for the White Sox, I agree it looked a bit too much like the early ’70s road unis to really set it apart.
So I was thinking something more along link, except that the outline of the wordmark should also be red. I just got lazy so I didn’t bother with it (and that’s also why the number 9 was eliminated).
And hey, why no White Sox home uni rendered in the flag’s colors?
[quote comment=”342218″]Take the last rendering and give it white pants (Hey, it’s in the flag) and you’ve got a really good, 80’s Cubs style away uniform.
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ok…i’ll do it because you ask…but what you’ve got here is another softball jersey look … something which should be avoided at all costs…
but here
and i don’t think i can bring myself to mess with the yanks uniform anymore (at least for this exercise)…as much as i hate to admit it, that uniform is damn near perfect (at least the yankee home) and i just can’t look at them in royal and blue…i will have other looks at the yanks and possible changes, but adding orange pins aint one of em ;)
Fantastic job, Phil! I love it.
I like how you didn’t change the color of the oriole on Baltimore’s hat. I don’t mind when the team colors are different from that of the mascot (are you listening, Philly Eagles? Your Randall Cunningham-era jerseys were just right). You should have given the Red Sox red socks, though…
Hmm, Yankees in blue and orange? That would make up for the Mets not wearing their pinstripes.
I’d like to see more teams adopt city or state colors (or province colours). My only thing is, there should be a limit to how many red, white and blue teams you can have at a time. Also, if a team name suggests your colors (are listening, Jays, Sox and Sox?) you should go with them first.
Didn’t think I’d like the Angels’ look, but once I saw it I thought of my favorite television show link
Can’t wait to see the National League…and the NFL…and the NBA…and the NHL…
I hate how all of the uniform templates that are available never have the correct belt loops for the Tigers. That is probably my favorite part of their uni. Any other teams use that style?
I think the White Sox set looks the best, in terms of it appearing on the field. Since they’ve done it before, maybe they’ll go back to red and blue again someday.
Those Brewers/Bears uniforms are awesome. The Braves/Black Crackers are decent too, so overall it was a very nice matchup. The Bears hats and helmets look good too. Could anyone tell if the Braves had special helmets? They looked like their regular road navy with white A, to me.
[quote comment=”342221″]Fantastic job, Phil! I love it.
I like how you didn’t change the color of the oriole on Baltimore’s hat. I don’t mind when the team colors are different from that of the mascot (are you listening, Philly Eagles? Your Randall Cunningham-era jerseys were just right). You should have given the Red Sox red socks, though…
Hmm, Yankees in blue and orange? That would make up for the Mets not wearing their pinstripes.
I’d like to see more teams adopt city or state colors (or province colours). My only thing is, there should be a limit to how many red, white and blue teams you can have at a time. Also, if a team name suggests your colors (are listening, Jays, Sox and Sox?) you should go with them first.
Didn’t think I’d like the Angels’ look, but once I saw it I thought of my favorite television show link
Can’t wait to see the National League…and the NFL…and the NBA…and the NHL…[/quote]
Jim, on a completely unrelated note…
Your response to me last night about the Steelers wearing white pants: “No, no, a thousand times no.” I never actually said the Steelers should wear white pants with their white jerseys. What I was saying was that I don’t care for the yellow ones (with the white jerseys/black helmets).
The white shirt/yellow trousers look is just something I’ve never liked. (A direct result of watching Brett Favre set many Solider Field passing records? Maybe.) And I think It just looks even worse if the helmet isn’t yellow. So, to me, the white jersey/yellow pants combo would be more palatable with the throwback helmet (but I’d still prefer to see them go white-on-white with that helmet).
Of course, like the other examples I gave last night, this “rule” of mine has link.
[quote comment=”342224″][quote comment=”342221″]Fantastic job, Phil! I love it.
I like how you didn’t change the color of the oriole on Baltimore’s hat. I don’t mind when the team colors are different from that of the mascot (are you listening, Philly Eagles? Your Randall Cunningham-era jerseys were just right). You should have given the Red Sox red socks, though…
Hmm, Yankees in blue and orange? That would make up for the Mets not wearing their pinstripes.
I’d like to see more teams adopt city or state colors (or province colours). My only thing is, there should be a limit to how many red, white and blue teams you can have at a time. Also, if a team name suggests your colors (are listening, Jays, Sox and Sox?) you should go with them first.
Didn’t think I’d like the Angels’ look, but once I saw it I thought of my favorite television show link
Can’t wait to see the National League…and the NFL…and the NBA…and the NHL…[/quote]
Jim, on a completely unrelated note…
Your response to me last night about the Steelers wearing white pants: “No, no, a thousand times no.” I never actually said the Steelers should wear white pants with their white jerseys. What I was saying was that I don’t care for the yellow ones (with the white jerseys/black helmets).
The white shirt/yellow trousers look is just something I’ve never liked. (A direct result of watching Brett Favre set many Solider Field passing records? Maybe.) And I think It just looks even worse if the helmet isn’t yellow. So, to me, the white jersey/yellow pants combo would be more palatable with the throwback helmet (but I’d still prefer to see them go white-on-white with that helmet).
Of course, like the other examples I gave last night, this “rule” of mine has link.[/quote]
jim – thanks
james – (these are actually quick snippets from something else im working on for down the road), but by removing the yellow pants for the stillers, are you talking about something like this or this?
lets stick to baseball for now, but i think im getting what your getting at…or something
[quote comment=”342224″]Jim, on a completely unrelated note…
Your response to me last night about the Steelers wearing white pants: “No, no, a thousand times no.” I never actually said the Steelers should wear white pants with their white jerseys. What I was saying was that I don’t care for the yellow ones (with the white jerseys/black helmets).
The white shirt/yellow trousers look is just something I’ve never liked. (A direct result of watching Brett Favre set many Solider Field passing records? Maybe.) And I think It just looks even worse if the helmet isn’t yellow. So, to me, the white jersey/yellow pants combo would be more palatable with the throwback helmet (but I’d still prefer to see them go white-on-white with that helmet).
Of course, like the other examples I gave last night, this “rule” of mine has link.[/quote]
I love your exception. That Rams uni was simply awesome.
If we could get the Pack to switch to white road pants, then could my Steelers keep the yellow pants? I just like them because the brightness sets off the black. I’m not a fan of black unis, but for the Steelers it works. Of course I’d gladly trade the black helmet for the throwback. I’m not that old, but this link is a great look.
The Dodgers had their Hollywood Stars softball game yesterday. One team wore blue, but I’m not sure about the other.
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Props to the Brewers for sporting batting helmets with the Milwaukee Bears M on it. When the Tigers did Negro League night they wore their regular batting helmets. If you are going to throwback, throwback all the way.
I think the Boston Bees had blue/gold uniforms when the Braves temporarily abandoned the nickname in the late 1930s and 1940s, and that approximated the colors of the City of Boston’s flag.
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Those Red Sox hats look very similar to this:
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[quote comment=”342229″]I think the Boston Bees had blue/gold uniforms when the Braves temporarily abandoned the nickname in the late 1930s and 1940s, and that approximated the colors of the City of Boston’s flag.
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Yep
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say it aint so! : todays Cleveland Plain Dealer has an article stating: “Aw Fudge! Browns may let out their chocolate-brown pants.” It seems new coach Mangini wants brown pants for every road game this season. It is just a rumor at the moment, but this does not sound good! There is no link on the internet at the moment.
[quote comment=”342225″]james – (these are actually quick snippets from something else im working on for down the road), but by removing the yellow pants for the stillers, are you talking about something like link or link?
lets stick to baseball for now, but i think im getting what your getting at…or something[/quote]
Close, but I’m really not saying they need to ditch the yellow pants when they wear the black jerseys. I like that look (as I do with the Pack’s green jerseys/yellow pants). You’re definitely on the right track with that second pic, though. (maybe not so much with the socks — white with stripes that match the sleeves instead? hmmm…)
Sorry to veer so far off track so early (at least I started off in the right direction with that reworked Sox mockup).
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I love your exception. That Rams uni was simply awesome.[/quote]
One of my all-time favorites. Their current look is such a downgrade — and I actually like their current look.
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If we could get the Pack to switch to white road pants, then could my Steelers keep the yellow pants? I just like them because the brightness sets off the black. I’m not a fan of black unis, but for the Steelers it works. Of course I’d gladly trade the black helmet for the throwback. I’m not that old, but this link is a great look.[/quote]
Sure, but only if they do indeed wear the throwback helmets.
On the topic of Phil’s “flag-ization” of uniforms, does anybody think the Royals in city colors look like the old
Yankees’ AAA farm teampre-Charlie O. Finley KC A’s?good stuff Johnny and Nicole, so good that I won’t even go on anti-Brewers rant (that’s better saved for the Pirates’ and Brewers’ blogs!!!)
Hmm, St. Petersburg flag…I’m thinking…dare I say it…oh sure – ’80s Denver Nuggets! If we’ve gone this far, someone can whip up a version of that for the Rays.
Oh, by the way, here’s the link
How I arrived at that answer:
1) The gorgeous sleeve patch (and, less obviously, the Citi Field backstop) gives it away as a Mets home game from this season.
2) The Mets have hosted the Phillies 5 times this season: May 5,6 and June 9-11.
3) Going through the box scores on Baseball-Almanac.com showed me that only one of those five games was scoreless and the Phillies had the only hit through 3 and a half innings.
Bonus clue #1) Jose Reyes led off the bottom of the 4th.
Bonus clue #2) link shows that the Mets did wear that uni combo for that game.
Although I love the Baltimore flag, no way I want to see a Baltimore team in Pittsburgh colors. Glad the O’s and Ravens have patches witch display the most unique flag in the US.
[quote comment=”342232″]say it aint so! : todays Cleveland Plain Dealer has an article stating: “Aw
Fudge! Browns may let out their chocolate-brown pants.” It seems new coach Mangini wants brown pants
for every road game this season. It is just a rumor at the moment, but this does not sound good!
There is no link on the internet at the moment.[/quote]
Oh, sweet Jesus. I just had a horrifying thought. This is the same guy who was fond of dressing the Jets link. Can brown on brown be on his agenda?
[quote comment=”342225″][quote comment=”342224″][quote comment=”342221″]Fantastic job, Phil! I love it.
I like how you didn’t change the color of the oriole on Baltimore’s hat. I don’t mind when the team colors are different from that of the mascot (are you listening, Philly Eagles? Your Randall Cunningham-era jerseys were just right). You should have given the Red Sox red socks, though…
Hmm, Yankees in blue and orange? That would make up for the Mets not wearing their pinstripes.
I’d like to see more teams adopt city or state colors (or province colours). My only thing is, there should be a limit to how many red, white and blue teams you can have at a time. Also, if a team name suggests your colors (are listening, Jays, Sox and Sox?) you should go with them first.
Didn’t think I’d like the Angels’ look, but once I saw it I thought of my favorite television show link
Can’t wait to see the National League…and the NFL…and the NBA…and the NHL…[/quote]
Jim, on a completely unrelated note…
Your response to me last night about the Steelers wearing white pants: “No, no, a thousand times no.” I never actually said the Steelers should wear white pants with their white jerseys. What I was saying was that I don’t care for the yellow ones (with the white jerseys/black helmets).
The white shirt/yellow trousers look is just something I’ve never liked. (A direct result of watching Brett Favre set many Solider Field passing records? Maybe.) And I think It just looks even worse if the helmet isn’t yellow. So, to me, the white jersey/yellow pants combo would be more palatable with the throwback helmet (but I’d still prefer to see them go white-on-white with that helmet).
Of course, like the other examples I gave last night, this “rule” of mine has link.[/quote]
jim – thanks
james – (these are actually quick snippets from something else im working on for down the road), but by removing the yellow pants for the stillers, are you talking about something like link or link?
lets stick to baseball for now, but i think im getting what your getting at…or something[/quote]
Ll Phil, I like those new, proposed uniform options for the Steelers, nothing wrong with the white pants/black stripe and black pants/yellow stripe. Also, I would give Pittsburgh the option of a aolid black look, but change the facemask color back to grey. The Steelers last wore a grey cage in 1976.
Not as good a picture as I would have liked, but here was a display at the team shop of the link from last night – jersey was $200, the cap $30. I also kind of figured out what I like about the ‘Chorizo #5’ T-shirt ($30), it’s kind of got an old Vancouver Canucks color scheme to it…
[quote comment=”342241″]Although I love the Baltimore flag, no way I want to see a Baltimore team in Pittsburgh colors. Glad the O’s and Ravens have patches witch display the most unique flag in the US.[/quote]
You can keep that Baltimore flag, both the Steelers and Pirates OWN the Ravens and Orioles, with more Super Bowls and World Series titles, sorry about 1971 and 1979. Maybe someday Baltimore will get a NHL team, hey at least you have the Crapitals!
When getting helmet sundaes as a kid, I remember requesting only teams with solid caps. I never understood why they didn’t go the extra step and make multicolored helmets accurately. Weren’t all of them always one color?
Man. I really wish I had all of the bob sled drawings I did during the 1980 Winter Olympics. Each one was designed based on that particular countries flag. I remember liking the one’s I did for Greece and Saudi Arabia. I was only 7, so I didn’t consider how ridiculous it was for these countries to have bob sled teams.
I know my flags to this day because of my bob sled drawings.
Holy Smokes! Those baseball unis are nicley done! The O’s and Mariners are definite standouts. Kudos to you Phil for this set, and HHH for the concept.
huge fan of the city flag unis – i would actually like to see some of these unis on the field today (yes, as a money making “Rep Your City” promo day)
Much better than link
Question regarding the Brewers’ throwbacks…
Have they ever thrown back to the American Association uniforms? link
As a Brewer myself, I would love to see more of that era’s uniforms branded about. Heck, anybody know of a place I can find even just a T-Shirt with that “Milwaukee” script logo?
Was just screwin’ around on Google, and came across this interesting site of Sports Maps. I’m sure many of y’all are familiar with it, but I thought it was a great looking site.
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[quote comment=”342248″]huge fan of the city flag unis – i would actually like to see some of these unis on the field today (yes, as a money making “Rep Your City” promo day)
Much better than link[/quote]
Actually, I believe that the next major marketing ploy will be a yellow hat for Cinco de Mayo (the yellow will of course represent Jose Cuervo) and all the logos will have a green/red fill…
The Seattle city flag was introduced right before the Goodwill Games in 1990, the circular ribbon device around the city seal was the Games logo.
here is the link for the browns “turd” pants: link scroll down to read the bad news.
link a rare shot of Rickey Henderson wearing 22 as an A. He wore it for a few games after being reacquired in 1989.
From link
[quote comment=”342243″][quote comment=”342225″][quote comment=”342224″][quote comment=”342221″]
Ll Phil, I like those new, proposed uniform options for the Steelers, nothing wrong with the white pants/black stripe and black pants/yellow stripe. Also, I would give Pittsburgh the option of a aolid black look, but change the facemask color back to grey. The Steelers last wore a grey cage in 1976.[/quote]
If the Ravens and Jags hadn’t done all-blacks before I would have begrudgingly accepted an all-black Steelers look. I like the balance of black AND gold. I’ll leave it at that for now – since Phil would prefer we stick to baseball today, I’ll spare you the story of the Steelers’ first experience with black helmets (and why it should have been their last IMHO).
I know some will heartily disagree, but if you make the bill navy blue, the Mariners concept link would work. What the heck, let me be a full-blown heretic and suggest a white or gray bill?
Today Rickey Henderson id the greatest of all time.
[quote comment=”342247″]Holy Smokes! Those baseball unis are nicley done! The O’s and Mariners are definite standouts. Kudos to you Phil for this set, and HHH for the concept.[/quote]
thank you michael…coming from you that means a lot!
obviously i’m insane, spending a lot of free time on these things, but unis are truly my love, and i’m always interested (as im sure many of us are) to see concepts and what if’s…
doesn’t mean when i’ve done one (or 200) i will ever advocate for it, just “wanted to see” how it would look
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on a completely unrelated note: rickey quote of the day, “at this moment, i am very, very humble”
write it down, cuz that’ll be the last time you ever hear that from his lips
[quote comment=”342257″]Today Rickey Henderson id the greatest of all time.[/quote]
Is his id the greatest of all time, or his ego? ;)
[quote comment=”342249″]Question regarding the Brewers’ throwbacks…
Have they ever thrown back to the American Association uniforms? link
As a Brewer myself, I would love to see more of that era’s uniforms branded about. Heck, anybody know of a place I can find even just a T-Shirt with that “Milwaukee” script logo?[/quote]
Are you talking about the current “Milwaukee” script that can be found on the away uni as a sleeve patch?
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I don’t think the Steelers should go to white pants.
If they did, I wouldn’t recommend a solid black stripe. There should be some yellow. Why not use the b/y/b pattern from their recent throwbacks? You can imagine that the very same stripe pattern is sublimated into the surrounding black on the helmet.
If they chose to wear black pants on the road, I would want the solid yellow stripe to be thinned down. It would fit better with the stripe on their helmets. Like the Raiders.
Definitely stripe every sock like the corresponding sleeve.
1. The two flags listed for Kansas City are the city’s and the state’s falg. The flag with the bear and seal is the state of Missouri’s.
2. The Royals adopted their colors not because of the name (which was derived from the livestock show and rodeo). Mr. K liked the look of the Dodgers so he adopted it for his team… hence the huge similarity in all facets from colors to script.
that\’s right phil, i am crazy:)
turned into a 9 hour shit today, thank i just might have sun stroke.
[quote comment=”342242″][quote comment=”342232″]say it aint so! : todays Cleveland Plain Dealer has an article stating: “Aw
Fudge! Browns may let out their chocolate-brown pants.” It seems new coach Mangini wants brown pants
for every road game this season. It is just a rumor at the moment, but this does not sound good!
There is no link on the internet at the moment.[/quote]
Oh, sweet Jesus. I just had a horrifying thought. This is the same guy who was fond of dressing the Jets link. Can brown on brown be on his agenda?[/quote]
Didn’t Mangini also have a mural of great Browns players removed or painted over something?
Screw history, I’M here now. Right, Steve-o?
How’d your stay with the Jets work out, btw?
—Ricko
roberto
i suggest amitiza or magniesum citrate
[quote comment=”342256″]I know some will heartily disagree, but if you make the bill navy blue, the Mariners concept link would work. What the heck, let me be a full-blown heretic and suggest a white or gray bill?[/quote]
with blue bill
with white bill and all blue removed (except on patch)
Just wondering, when you do all of these uni concepts, where do you get the template? I’m assuming that there is some site on the web that has all of the major league unis in that set up with the front, rear, and cap.
[quote comment=”342267″]Just wondering, when you do all of these uni concepts, where do you get the template? I’m assuming that there is some site on the web that has all of the major league unis in that set up with the front, rear, and cap.[/quote]
i use the template creamer uses…where he got it, i’m not sure, but i’ve seen it around
if you google image search baseball uniform template you get a bunch, but i prefer the one i used for these (and others)
Nice work, Phil. Amazing stripes on those stirrups!
That St. Pete flag would make a great patch. Though the Rays wouldn’t have the stones, not that there’s anything wrong with it.
[quote comment=”342268″][quote comment=”342267″]Just wondering, when you do all of these uni concepts, where do you get the template? I’m assuming that there is some site on the web that has all of the major league unis in that set up with the front, rear, and cap.[/quote]
i use the template creamer uses…where he got it, i’m not sure, but i’ve seen it around
if you google image search link you get a bunch, but i prefer the one i used for these (and others)[/quote]
Ah, yes, I always forget about CC’s site. Thanks.
[quote comment=”342269″]Nice work, Phil. Amazing stripes on those stirrups!
That St. Pete flag would make a great patch. Though the Rays wouldn’t have the stones, not that there’s anything wrong with it.[/quote]
I would love to see the St Pete flag as a sleeve patch, but it would never happen. The people over in Tampa would be even more pissed that they don’t have a complete monopoly over the area’s sports teams.
[quote comment=”342266″][quote comment=”342256″]I know some will heartily disagree, but if you make the bill navy blue, the Mariners concept link would work. What the heck, let me be a full-blown heretic and suggest a white or gray bill?[/quote]
link
link and all blue removed (except on patch)[/quote]
Nice! Well, I think so…
[quote comment=”342261″]I don’t think the Steelers should go to white pants.
If they did, I wouldn’t recommend a solid black stripe. There should be some yellow. Why not use the b/y/b pattern from their recent throwbacks? You can imagine that the very same stripe pattern is sublimated into the surrounding black on the helmet.
If they chose to wear black pants on the road, I would want the solid yellow stripe to be thinned down. It would fit better with the stripe on their helmets. Like the Raiders.
Definitely stripe every sock like the corresponding sleeve.[/quote]
For the sake of my blood pressure, please don’t use the words “Steelers” and “Like the Raiders” in the same train of thought. I read this post too fast the first time and felt the heart rate increase. After reading it a second time, I realized the comparison was very minor, but I would prefer to have as few comparisons between the Stillers and The Epitome Of All That Is Evil In This World as possible. We’re cool, though, Hibbsy.
The winner of today’s “I can’t wait for Phil to do the NL city flag colors edition” award:
link
One of the announcers on ESPN tonight called Citi Field, “The New Shea Stadium”. Don’t know which one of the color guys, don’t usually watch sunday night baseball but the Tigers are on and getting the arses handed to them.
For the record, I’ve never been to Australia, so you can cross me off the suspect list…
link
[quote comment=”342265″]roberto
i suggest amitiza or magniesum citrate[/quote]
So is it mistyping “is” or liking Rickey that indicates constipation?
Or uh…huh?
So I’m not conspiracy nut or anything but does it seem like there’s a lot of boxers getting kid lately? Like more than normal?
link
[quote comment=”342276″][quote comment=”342265″]roberto
i suggest amitiza or magniesum citrate[/quote]
So is it mistyping “is” or liking Rickey that indicates constipation?
Or uh…huh?[/quote]
Mr. Hecken was responding to Mr. Marshall (comment #56). That wasn’t a suggestion directed at you.
[quote comment=”342277″]So I’m not conspiracy nut or anything but does it seem like there’s a lot of boxers getting kid lately? Like more than normal?
link
I made the comment earlier today that there have been a few boxers die lately.
[quote comment=”342278″][quote comment=”342276″][quote comment=”342265″]roberto
i suggest amitiza or magniesum citrate[/quote]
So is it mistyping “is” or liking Rickey that indicates constipation?
Or uh…huh?[/quote]
Mr. Hecken was responding to Mr. Marshall (comment #56). That wasn’t a suggestion directed at you.[/quote]
yeah…thanks JTH…mr. marshall, a/k/a “studio time” or “roberto” (but more oftentimes “rpm” is the person to whom i was replying
since you’re “berto” … mr. marshall will have to refer to hisself as something besides “roberto” to avoid confusion
sorry for the confusion
Ah, it was the final “-o” that threw me off.
[quote comment=”342280″][quote comment=”342278″][quote comment=”342276″][quote comment=”342265″]roberto
i suggest amitiza or magniesum citrate[/quote]
So is it mistyping “is” or liking Rickey that indicates constipation?
Or uh…huh?[/quote]
Mr. Hecken was responding to Mr. Marshall (comment #56). That wasn’t a suggestion directed at you.[/quote]
yeah…thanks JTH…mr. marshall, a/k/a “studio time” or “roberto” is the person to whom i was replying
since you’re “berto” … mr. marshall will have to refer to hisself as something besides “roberto” to avoid confusion
sorry for the confusion[/quote]
“I’m Calling Him RPM”
I liked SGALOP (Spelling, Grammar And Lack Of Punctuation), though, and if he watches his spelling we could just call him GALOP.
“I’m Calling Him RPM”
Ha!
[quote comment=”342274″]One of the announcers on ESPN tonight called Citi Field, “The New Shea Stadium”. Don’t know which one of the color guys, don’t usually watch sunday night baseball but the Tigers are on and getting the arses handed to them.[/quote]
Something that’s been bugging me for weeks has finally been resolved. I’ve been trying to figure out whom link reminds me of (he pitched in that game). Survey says: a young link. Now I can sleep tonight.
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Hey, any truth to the rumor that Rickey did not refer to himself in the third person at all during his speech today? How disappointing.
What is Phil’s email? I click on the LI Phil next to his comments but nothing happens.
[quote comment=”342272″][quote comment=”342261″]I don’t think the Steelers should go to white pants.
If they did, I wouldn’t recommend a solid black stripe. There should be some yellow. Why not use the b/y/b pattern from their recent throwbacks? You can imagine that the very same stripe pattern is sublimated into the surrounding black on the helmet.
If they chose to wear black pants on the road, I would want the solid yellow stripe to be thinned down. It would fit better with the stripe on their helmets. Like the Raiders.
Definitely stripe every sock like the corresponding sleeve.[/quote]
For the sake of my blood pressure, please don’t use the words “Steelers” and “Like the Raiders” in the same train of thought. I read this post too fast the first time and felt the heart rate increase. After reading it a second time, I realized the comparison was very minor, but I would prefer to have as few comparisons between the Stillers and The Epitome Of All That Is Evil In This World as possible. We’re cool, though, Hibbsy.[/quote]
The Raiders could be evil, perhaps, but they sure do look good.
I can’t wait for them to go mega PC and allow a player to choose the race of the pirate on his individual helmet.
[quote comment=”342286″][quote comment=”342272″][quote comment=”342261″]For the sake of my blood pressure, please don’t use the words “Steelers” and “Like the Raiders” in the same train of thought. I read this post too fast the first time and felt the heart rate increase. After reading it a second time, I realized the comparison was very minor, but I would prefer to have as few comparisons between the Stillers and The Epitome Of All That Is Evil In This World as possible. We’re cool, though, Hibbsy.[/quote]
The Raiders could be evil, perhaps, but they sure do look good.
I can’t wait for them to go mega PC and allow a player to choose the race of the pirate on his individual helmet.[/quote]
Raiders? Look good? You must be thinking of the Oakland INVADERS link
Now they looked good…link
I said, now THEY looked good link
[quote comment=”342287″][quote comment=”342286″][quote comment=”342272″][quote comment=”342261″]For the sake of my blood pressure, please don’t use the words “Steelers” and “Like the Raiders” in the same train of thought. I read this post too fast the first time and felt the heart rate increase. After reading it a second time, I realized the comparison was very minor, but I would prefer to have as few comparisons between the Stillers and The Epitome Of All That Is Evil In This World as possible. We’re cool, though, Hibbsy.[/quote]
The Raiders could be evil, perhaps, but they sure do look good.
I can’t wait for them to go mega PC and allow a player to choose the race of the pirate on his individual helmet.[/quote]
Raiders? Look good? You must be thinking of the Oakland INVADERS link
Now they looked good…link
Again with the white guy logo. Why couldn’t that lightning bolt holdin fist be the fist of someone of color?
I did like the Invader look.
[quote comment=”342289″][quote comment=”342287″][quote comment=”342286″][quote comment=”342272″][quote comment=”342261″]
Raiders? Look good? You must be thinking of the Oakland INVADERS link
Now they looked good…link
Again with the white guy logo. Why couldn’t that lightning bolt holdin fist be the fist of someone of color?
I did like the Invader look.[/quote]
I prefer to think the lightning was so bright it drowned out whatever color skin the fist was…
here ya go marty
[quote comment=”342291″]link marty[/quote]
I like it – looks like Greek Mythology and the ’68 Olympics in one cool logo…
[quote comment=”342249″]Question regarding the Brewers’ throwbacks…
Have they ever thrown back to the American Association uniforms? link
As a Brewer myself, I would love to see more of that era’s uniforms branded about. Heck, anybody know of a place I can find even just a T-Shirt with that “Milwaukee” script logo?[/quote]
July 31, 1997 – Brewers were playing Seattle, and just before game-time Greg Vaughn got traded for prospects and fans tore down the ‘Vaughn’s Valley’ sign in the bleachers. Both teams wore 1940’s uniforms of the minor league teams in both cities at that time. It was said (I think Uecker said it on the broadcast) that Griffey tore off the sleeves of the Seattle throwbacks because he wanted to see how the team would look in sleeveless.
[quote comment=”342288″]I said, now THEY looked good link
I know it’s late, but that Invaders uni has some problems.
I love the color scheme, the logo is cute, and I like the yellow/ blue/ white from head to toe.
However, I wish they had their varying stripes not so varied.
The pant’s stripes look good, but your pant’s stripes should sync up with the helmet stripes most of the time.
[quote comment=”342291″]link marty[/quote]
That has t warm everyone’s heart.
Thank you.
How about the Raiders and Vikes?
Ol Bruce and new Pat were safe routes in the first place.
colour
roofus goofus
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii can’t help being me, sometimes the brain pan snaps.
teasers! ha, i deserve it.
sorry, i should just say it out loud, css rpm loves li phil!!!! it is true love always on weekends.
Your blue Toronto uni looks pretty familiar…
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