Robert Marshall Isn’t the Only One Placing Orders with Twin City Knitting

I love old program covers. That NC State site is great. But this one is still my all time favorite.

The Padres’ uniform history is wrong. They whiffed on the road jerseys from 1976-79 and the home jerseys of at least ’78 and ’79.

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Why is it ok for Jamie Moyer to wear Liberty Bell stirrups when you think it’s a bit too much for Rajai Davis to wear stirrups with the A’s logo on it?

Watching the Texas Texases last night, I thought: What team recently wore its city name at home and on the road. In the case of both Texas and this time, I think it works.

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[quote comment=”341654″]The Padres’ uniform history is wrong. They whiffed on the road jerseys from 1976-79 and the home jerseys of at least ’78 and ’79.

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And no alternates in sight.

Well, I got 6 points. I certainly would have done better if it was Pittsburgh Uni-trivia. Not so bad for an Erieite.

“the President of Kenya ”

Paul:

I know that this is your site, and I, too, do not like the health care plan, But I find that comment a little too offensive.

[quote comment=”341663″]Hmmm, do I sense some sarcasm Mr Lukus?[/quote]

we do take these matters very uh seriously, and uh, we’re going to investigate these things

(Tells self..please just let it go…let it go…don’t start a political fight on a uni site)! Phew…I’m over it. How bout those Bears!?

Got 23. And I’m not a Mets fan, and probably younger than you. Wow.

[quote comment=”341655″]link for the football program cover.[/quote]

Beautiful!

(Tony feeling his oats.)

[quote comment=”341669″]Wilt could do it all…I seem to recall that he played in a pro volleyball and considered boxing.[/quote]

I recall a show featuring Howard Cosell, Muhammad Ali, and Wilt (yeah, when originally shown) and Ali kept baiting Wilt to box him. Wilt’s response each time was to produce a contract and it would be a done deal. Wilt was also quite a swordsman, coxswain, and bareback equestrian!

I got 25 of 32.

I love the Mets and always will…and I hate myself for it.

I got 8 points. That’s really, uh, not good.

[quote comment=”341654″]The Padres’ uniform history is wrong. They whiffed on the road jerseys from 1976-79 and the home jerseys of at least ’78 and ’79.

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Completely ignores the white shoes Ozzie Smith-Dave Winfield era of late ’70s, too (immediately pre-Taco).
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—Ricko

I got 12 right on the Mets quiz. And that’s way more than I had any business getting right.

Here are the correct ones: 1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 11, both on 13 (total guess), one on 15 (guessed Vaughn correctly), 18, 21, 22

I misread 9 — and I probably would have gotten it wrong anyway
I should’ve known 19 & 23.

[quote comment=”341669″]Wilt could do it all…I seem to recall that he played in a pro volleyball and considered boxing.[/quote]

He worked out with Kansas City Chiefs once upon a time, too, and Hank Stram fell all over himself trying to get him to sign, saying Chamberlain would be among the greatest receivers (including tight ends, which would have been one position possibility for The Stilt) ever to play the game.

—Ricko

Wasn’t there a Mets pitcher in the late 80’s named Bob Gibson? So wouldn’t the answer to #13 question from yesterday be inaccurate?

re: Binghampton Fight Club.
That’s it, Mets have jumped the shark.

[quote comment=”341680″][quote comment=”341654″]The Padres’ uniform history is wrong. They whiffed on the road jerseys from 1976-79 and the home jerseys of at least ’78 and ’79.

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Completely ignores the white shoes Ozzie Smith-Dave Winfield era of late ’70s, too (immediately pre-Taco).
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—Ricko[/quote]

Yikes, what a horrid look. The 1984 World Series uniforms were not bad, though.

Looks like Lance and Johan’s new team is Team Radio Shack.

Teamradioshack.com was registered on July 20. By Capital Sports and Entertainment, the agency owned by Armstrong’s longtime agent Bill Stapleton. source link.

Saved from a Nike deluge… :)

including tight ends, which would have been one position possibility for The Stilt

Another woul be “Missionary”.

[quote comment=”341697″]Come on Paul. Binghamton is not upstate, it’s western NY. Everything west of Syracuse is western NY.[/quote]
Ins’t everything north of the Bronx considered “upstate”?

Anything noorth of the Bronx is upstate.

Like the episode in Cheers where Norm says that “Vera went to visit her parents in Wyoming or Utah. One of those square states out west.”

[quote comment=”341696″][quote comment=”341691″][quote comment=”341686″]Wasn’t there a Mets pitcher in the late 80’s named Bob Gibson? So wouldn’t the answer to #13 question from yesterday be inaccurate?[/quote]

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Wow. I confess that I have no memory of this Gibson. There was PAUL Gibson, who pitched for both the Mets and Yanks:
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But I hadn’t been aware of the “other” Bob Gibson. Thanks for enlightening me![/quote]
The real link was a coach with the link and link, working with former teammate Joe Torre… “Gibby” was Joe’s “attitude coach” in both spots!

One can only imagine the fireworks had Gibson joined Torre in the Bronx… Think he’da put up with George? Dont. Think. So…

[quote comment=”341701″][quote comment=”341696″][quote comment=”341691″][quote comment=”341686″]Wasn’t there a Mets pitcher in the late 80’s named Bob Gibson? So wouldn’t the answer to #13 question from yesterday be inaccurate?[/quote]

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Wow. I confess that I have no memory of this Gibson. There was PAUL Gibson, who pitched for both the Mets and Yanks:
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But I hadn’t been aware of the “other” Bob Gibson. Thanks for enlightening me![/quote]

Considering that link shows he pitched 1 inning of 1 game.. I think we can find it in our hearts to forgive you, eventually, after you show an appropriate amount of remorse..[/quote]

Ah, so he’s sorta the Mets’ Moonlight.

[quote comment=”341697″]Come on Paul. Binghamton is not upstate, it’s western NY. Everything west of Syracuse is western NY.[/quote]

not only is that not true…binghamton is almost in pennsylvania, so if anything, that’s not “western,” but rather southern tier

JTH is correct tho…anything north of da bronx is “upstate”

[quote comment=”341708″][quote comment=”341697″]Come on Paul. Binghamton is not upstate, it’s western NY. Everything west of Syracuse is western NY.[/quote]

not only is that not true…binghamton is link, so if anything, that’s not “western,” but rather southern tier

JTH is correct tho…anything north of da bronx is “upstate”[/quote]
And by looking at that map, it appears that Binghamton is slightly to the east of Syracuse.

[quote comment=\”341710\”][quote comment=\”341708\”][quote comment=\”341697\”]Come on Paul. Binghamton is not upstate, it\’s western NY. Everything west of Syracuse is western NY.[/quote]

not only is that not true…binghamton is almost in pennsylvania, so if anything, that\’s not \”western,\” but rather southern tier

JTH is correct tho…anything north of da bronx is \”upstate\”[/quote]
And by looking at that map, it appears that Binghamton is slightly to the east of Syracuse.[/quote]

I go to school at the ‘Cuse, but live on Long Island, so this argument seemingly never ends up there haha. Can’t recall how many times I’ve told people there’s no such thing as Central New York.

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Ins’t everything north of the Bronx considered “upstate”?

To NYCers, yes, but people who actually live upstate *hate* this attitude, as my girlfriend from Syracuse will attest to…admittedly, I can’t get too worked up about it, but I do think referring to Westchester, e.g., as “upstate”, as some do, is pretty dumb.[/quote]
Where I’m from, everything south of link is considered “downstate” or “Southern Illinois”. Apparently this designation link.

Who knew?

If I was a high school football coach in Nebraska, I would outfit my entire team in 1980’s era Eric Dickerson Rams jerseys.

But the larger issue is that this really speaks to how MLB has completely lost control of lower-leg styling.

Just curious, but why should the commissioner be in control of something like that? I’d rather have each team decide on their look individually. It’s bad enough that Selig’s office has eliminated most of the autonomy of the two leagues, forced all teams to use the same uniform manufacturer, forced all teamsto have the same stupid practice jersey template and the same stupid practice caps, but now people want that to extend to sock styles?

If MLB were in charge, there would probably be an MLB logo where that A’s logo is now. No, thanks.

I thought the idea was that the AFL charter franchises would wear the throwbacks every time they play each other this season. Apparently I was way off because according to that link, they won’t be wearing them when they play Tennessee or the second times they play Denver, Oakland and KC.

As an A’s fan I gotta say I kinda dig the A’s logo ‘rups. Get it Raj.

[quote comment=”341718″]But the larger issue is that this really speaks to how MLB has completely lost control of lower-leg styling.

Just curious, but why should the commissioner be in control of something like that? I’d rather have each team decide on their look individually. It’s bad enough that Selig’s office has eliminated most of the autonomy of the two leagues, forced all teams to use the same uniform manufacturer, forced all teamsto have the same stupid practice jersey template and the same stupid practice caps, but now people want that to extend to sock styles?

If MLB were in charge, there would probably be an MLB logo where that A’s logo is now. No, thanks.[/quote]
Great points Mark. Rather than uniform police, I’d rather this thing go grassroots and just cycle back like most fashion (both in pop culture and sports) does.

What we need is a few high profile players taking the torch and saying how cool the look is. Or, have team mandates, like the Myrtle Beach Pelicans have. But the league, no thanks, and you’re probably right, they would have a majestic or MLB logo on them (and this place would go bonkers!)

It was great watching (and seeing) the Giants in town over this past weekend. I noticed a lot of their players have better uniform fits. Zito and the RF (#12?) were wearing a tighter fit.

I was watching the game Zito was pitching with my wife and she had her first uniwatch moment. (The fact that she was even watching baseball with me was somewhat monumental!) She says, “those baggie uniforms, how do they run and play in them” and “the pitcher’s uniform is how it should fit”.

Preachin’ to the choir sister!

[quote comment=”341725″][quote comment=”341719″][quote comment=”341718″]But the larger issue is that this really speaks to how MLB has completely lost control of lower-leg styling.

Just curious, but why should the commissioner be in control of something like that? I’d rather have each team decide on their look individually.[/quote]

Fine — have each team come up with its own standard look and make them stick to it. That’s all I meant. But it’s crazy that there’s essentially NO protocol for pants and socks.[/quote]

Odd thing about that is that only the NFL and NCAA footballhave sprta strict policies on such things. MLB and NBA/NCAA hoops have, comparatively speaking, traditionally left “from the knees down and the elbows down” as areas of relatively free expression.

Not saying what’s right or wrong, just what has been.

—Ricko[/quote]
The NFL may have regulations, but link.

[quote comment=”341726″][quote comment=”341725″][quote comment=”341719″][quote comment=”341718″]But the larger issue is that this really speaks to how MLB has completely lost control of lower-leg styling.

Just curious, but why should the commissioner be in control of something like that? I’d rather have each team decide on their look individually.[/quote]

Fine — have each team come up with its own standard look and make them stick to it. That’s all I meant. But it’s crazy that there’s essentially NO protocol for pants and socks.[/quote]

Odd thing about that is that only the NFL and NCAA footballhave sprta strict policies on such things. MLB and NBA/NCAA hoops have, comparatively speaking, traditionally left “from the knees down and the elbows down” as areas of relatively free expression.

Not saying what’s right or wrong, just what has been.

—Ricko[/quote]
The NFL may have regulations, but link.[/quote]
Are you link the NFL’s uni cops?

link.

[quote comment=”341726″][quote comment=”341725″][quote comment=”341719″][quote comment=”341718″]But the larger issue is that this really speaks to how MLB has completely lost control of lower-leg styling.

Just curious, but why should the commissioner be in control of something like that? I’d rather have each team decide on their look individually.[/quote]

Fine — have each team come up with its own standard look and make them stick to it. That’s all I meant. But it’s crazy that there’s essentially NO protocol for pants and socks.[/quote]

Odd thing about that is that only the NFL and NCAA footballhave sprta strict policies on such things. MLB and NBA/NCAA hoops have, comparatively speaking, traditionally left “from the knees down and the elbows down” as areas of relatively free expression.

Not saying what’s right or wrong, just what has been.

—Ricko[/quote]
The NFL may have regulations, but link.[/quote]

Didn’t mean to say they did (and isn’t that one of the bugaboos bout such things, enforcement?). Was just saying that in baseball and basketball it’s long kinda been “let ’em do what they want with their socks, etc.”

I posted an article a long time ago about how umps didn’t think enforcing the “no high stirrups” rule was their responsibility, and the rule sorta died on the vine. NFL goes to the trouble of hiring “Uniform Cops”. In baseball, a sport where bitching is part of the game, can you imagine the shit Uniform Cops would get around the batting cage, etc. Not a job I’d want. “I’m sorry Mr. Ramirez, but I’ll have to report you for your baggy pants. And you’ll be fined $1,000.”

Let’s all imagine Manny’s reaction, shall we?

—Ricko

[quote comment=”341731″][quote comment=”341729″][quote comment=”341659″][quote comment=”341656″]Why is it ok for Jamie Moyer to wear Liberty Bell stirrups when you think it’s a bit too much for Rajai Davis to wear stirrups with the A’s logo on it?[/quote]

The Liberty Bell stirrups are part of Philly’s official uni set. And the Liberty Bell logo doesn’t appear anywhere else on the uniform, so it’s a nice little bonus.[/quote]

But Paul, didn’t you say you liked & showed the old Twins “TC” stirrups as well as the old navy Astros orange-star stirrups in past blog entries? Any stirrups seen should be considered a victory in itself.[/quote]

In general, yeah. What really concerns me is the idea that you can just grab any stirrups — or any socks at all, official or not — and wear them on the field. It all reflects a failure to take this part of the uniform seriously. Impose some standards![/quote]

Well, they’re team colors and team related. That’s a good thing.

[quote comment=”341716″]If I was a high school football coach in Nebraska, I would outfit my entire team in 1980’s era Eric Dickerson Rams jerseys.[/quote]

That would be a violation. You can’t have every player wearing the number 29.

[quote comment=”341731″][quote comment=”341729″][quote comment=”341659″][quote comment=”341656″]Why is it ok for Jamie Moyer to wear Liberty Bell stirrups when you think it’s a bit too much for Rajai Davis to wear stirrups with the A’s logo on it?[/quote]

The Liberty Bell stirrups are part of Philly’s official uni set. And the Liberty Bell logo doesn’t appear anywhere else on the uniform, so it’s a nice little bonus.[/quote]

But Paul, didn’t you say you liked & showed the old Twins “TC” stirrups as well as the old navy Astros orange-star stirrups in past blog entries? Any stirrups seen should be considered a victory in itself.[/quote]

In general, yeah. What really concerns me is the idea that you can just grab any stirrups — or any socks at all, official or not — and wear them on the field. It all reflects a failure to take this part of the uniform seriously. Impose some standards![/quote]

I prefer MLB’s attitude much more than the no individuality allowed standards of the No Fun League.

Part of what makes sports fun as a kid is emulating your favorite players in both style of play and the way they dress. I used to stretch out my socks to get them to look like Pistol Pete’s.

Broncos meet Dolphins…….

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Money goes to NFL Charities in player’s name. Player takes it as a tax deduction. A socks violation is, I believe, $5,000. Per violation.

So the incentive to adhere to the standards is….

Here’s a thought:

If, indeed, Vucinich ordered those logo socks for the A’s because of something he became aware of through Uni Watch, will that be the first actual change to a big-time uni that Uni Watch has wrought?

Would be spectacular if it were, huh.

—Ricko

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Perhaps a “I’m calling it The Sears Tower” shirts are in order?

[quote comment=”341738″]Broncos meet Dolphins…….

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More like Broncos meet Canes.

[quote comment=”341748″][quote comment=”341742″]Here’s a thought:

If, indeed, Vucinich ordered those logo socks for the A’s because of something he became aware of through Uni Watch, will that be the first actual change to a big-time uni that Uni Watch has wrought?

Would be spectacular if it were, huh.

—Ricko[/quote]

I’m pretty certain that Steve doesn’t need any help from me to be familiar with Twin City Knitting’s product line. But even if he did learn about the logo stirrups from Uni Watch, this woudln’t be the first time UW has resulted in an on-field change. In fact, it’s not even the first time Steve has been involved in such a change:
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Yeah, kinda figured he’d heard of TC Knitting, alluded to that.

Correcting an oops isn’t the same as helping determine a team’s new stirrups look, though, is it?

Ah, well, I’m being picky, I guess. I know UW has it share of clout already, Just wondered if this had the potential to be a new level.

(Kinda hoping for the Oakland Tribune to quote him. “The logo on the stirrups? Well, there’s lot of interesting input on a web site called ‘Uni Watch’…”).

:)

—Ricko

[quote comment=”341744″]http://www.itsthesearstower.com/

Perhaps a “I’m calling it The Sears Tower” shirts are in order?[/quote]
Here in Chicago another local landmark is the John Hancock Center (or John Hancock Building). The controversy over the Sears Tower led one of the newspapers to print a story stating that the Hancock was definitely NOT going to change names. :-)

[quote comment=”341736″][quote comment=”341731″][quote comment=”341729″][quote comment=”341659″][quote comment=”341656″]Why is it ok for Jamie Moyer to wear Liberty Bell stirrups when you think it’s a bit too much for Rajai Davis to wear stirrups with the A’s logo on it?[/quote]

The Liberty Bell stirrups are part of Philly’s official uni set. And the Liberty Bell logo doesn’t appear anywhere else on the uniform, so it’s a nice little bonus.[/quote]

But Paul, didn’t you say you liked & showed the old Twins “TC” stirrups as well as the old navy Astros orange-star stirrups in past blog entries? Any stirrups seen should be considered a victory in itself.[/quote]

In general, yeah. What really concerns me is the idea that you can just grab any stirrups — or any socks at all, official or not — and wear them on the field. It all reflects a failure to take this part of the uniform seriously. Impose some standards![/quote]

I prefer MLB’s attitude much more than the no individuality allowed standards of the No Fun League.

Part of what makes sports fun as a kid is emulating your favorite players in both style of play and the way they dress. I used to stretch out my socks to get them to look like Pistol Pete’s.[/quote]

I agree socks should be uniform, but in general I prefer the MLB standards to the gestapo that is the NFL. I think you have to let some parts of the uni go, kinda like knowing which battles to choose with your kids. That might be why there’s a lot more wackiness among NFL players – they’re rebelling against an overly-restrictive parent. Set some serious non-negotiable uniform standards, but leave room for a bit of individuality.

Really cool articles and video on Page 2 today, Paul. How much input did you have on putting together the video segments – script, music, editing, etc.? I thought it came out very nicely!

A general baseball question, involving how we define things here.

When did “White home/Gray road” become the rule in MLB?

I ask because it would give us a reasonable benchmark for discussions of who has “never” worn–or not worn–something or the other.

Was thinking of the discussion about dark jerseys the other day. I’m far from a Yankees champion, but applying the “White/Gray” benchmark, they probably ARE the one team that has “never” gone dark for an MLB game (meaning since dark slipped back into the equation).

—Ricko

[quote comment=”341758″]A general baseball question, involving how we define things here.

When did “White home/Gray road” become the rule in MLB?

I ask because it would give us a reasonable benchmark for discussions of who has “never” worn–or not worn–something or the other.

Was thinking of the discussion about dark jerseys the other day. I’m far from a Yankees champion, but applying the “White/Gray” benchmark, they probably ARE the one team that has “never” gone dark for an MLB game (meaning since dark slipped back into the equation).

—Ricko[/quote]

Here’s another question: Name an MLB postseason playoff series where neither team wore grey? (And, yes, games were played at both teams’ home ball parks.)

[quote comment=”341757″][quote comment=”341754″]
I agree socks should be uniform, but in general I prefer the MLB standards to the gestapo that is the NFL. I think you have to let some parts of the uni go, kinda like knowing which battles to choose with your kids. That might be why there’s a lot more wackiness among NFL players – they’re rebelling against an overly-restrictive parent. Set some serious non-negotiable uniform standards, but leave room for a bit of individuality.[/quote]

This debate over uniformity in uniforms is why I love hockey. Aside from individual sponsorships for gloves, helmets, sticks, and skates, the uniform never comes into question. And when one player changes what the uniform looks like, it’s highly noticeable.

Players still have individuality with numbers and their own sponsorships, especially goaltenders with their masks, but everyone looks the same for most part – exactly what a uniform should look like.[/quote]

wow…teebz…

first time in a while we are in total and complete 100% agreement

usually it’s pretty close, but you’re exactly right on this one

+1

Name an MLB postseason playoff series where neither team wore grey? (And, yes, games were played at both teams’ home ball parks.)

Surely there were many in the 1970s and 1980s. In the 1984 NLCS between the Cubs and Padres, neither team had any gray in any of their uniforms.

[quote comment=”341762″][quote comment=”341757″][quote comment=”341754″]
I agree socks should be uniform, but in general I prefer the MLB standards to the gestapo that is the NFL. I think you have to let some parts of the uni go, kinda like knowing which battles to choose with your kids. That might be why there’s a lot more wackiness among NFL players – they’re rebelling against an overly-restrictive parent. Set some serious non-negotiable uniform standards, but leave room for a bit of individuality.[/quote]

This debate over uniformity in uniforms is why I love hockey. Aside from individual sponsorships for gloves, helmets, sticks, and skates, the uniform never comes into question. And when one player changes what the uniform looks like, it’s highly noticeable.

Players still have individuality with numbers and their own sponsorships, especially goaltenders with their masks, but everyone looks the same for most part – exactly what a uniform should look like.[/quote]

wow…teebz…

first time in a while we are in total and complete 100% agreement

usually it’s pretty close, but you’re exactly right on this one

+1[/quote]

Aside from individual sponsorships for gloves, helmets, sticks, and skates… All that’s left is sweaters, breezers and socks. Not much room work with, but you get guys like Gretzky and Jagr who tuck their sweaters and the guy on the blackhawks who wears his socks low. I think it’s great. And how boring would it be if all goalies had to wear the same mask.

[quote comment=”341767″][quote comment=”341766″]
Aside from individual sponsorships for gloves, helmets, sticks, and skates… All that’s left is sweaters, breezers and socks. Not much room work with, but you get guys like Gretzky and Jagr who tuck their sweaters and the guy on the blackhawks who wears his socks low. I think it’s great. And how boring would it be if all goalies had to wear the same mask.[/quote]

True, to a degree, bourbon…

However, if you and I worked at McDonald’s, I would expect that we wouldn’t be mandated to wear the same underwear brand. LOL

The shirt, pants, cap, and shoes that MickeyDee’s hands out to its employees are similar in style and appearance, though. Yeah, you can add a piece of flair (a la Office Space, and Gretzky’s and Jagr’s tuck) like a button, but the overall appearance is identical between employees because it’s their accepted uniform. Or, in other words, we’re all uniform in uniforms. :o)[/quote]

I think I just argued that we agree by the same defintion now that I re-read what Bourbon wrote. LOL

I need this day to end shortly. I’m struggling.

And some guys tuck in theirs socks, and some wear tubes that look a little like leggings, blousing down over the skates. Others tape the bottom of their socks (or they used to back in the day) or tape around their shin pads differently.

Still a bit of individuality there. Which is okay, I think. Makes it easy to ID certain players.

Some much of sport is about individual moments when an individual’s skill and instinct come into play. Hard (and perhaps inadvisable) to completely legislate it out of things for the sake of some kind of ersatz military or Orwellian conformity.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”341765″][quote comment=”341764″] Name an MLB postseason playoff series where neither team wore grey? (And, yes, games were played at both teams’ home ball parks.)

Surely there were many in the 1970s and 1980s. In the 1984 NLCS between the Cubs and Padres, neither team had any gray in any of their uniforms.[/quote]

You’re a winner! Darn, that was easier than I thought. I’ll see, when time permits, if I can determine whether this ever happened any other time.[/quote]

If you don’t include powder blue as merely another version of the traditional grey road uniform, then the 1982 NLCS (St. Louis vs. Atlanta) would also qualify as a grey-less series, but I don’t think it’s the same thing as 1984, when both Cubs and Pads wore dark jerseys and white pants on the road.

Paul, pleasew don’t encourage MLB to institute standards wth re to stirrups.

You HAVE to know that if they did that we’d never see another stirrup again.

Beggars can’t be choosers. Embrace Rajai’s wonderful hose.

Also, are we counting the World Series, there would have been three in the 80s:
1980: Philly/KC
1982: St.L/Milwuaukee
1985: KC/St.L

[quote comment=”341727″][quote comment=”341706″]Today’s ESPN columns are up. This one has a two-part video component:
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And this one supplements the first one:
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Great stuff, Paul![/quote]

Indeed. I need to get to the Hall of Fame someday. Thanks for the reminder.

[quote comment=”341779″][quote comment=”341773″][quote comment=”341772″][quote comment=”341765″][quote comment=”341764″] Name an MLB postseason playoff series where neither team wore grey? (And, yes, games were played at both teams’ home ball parks.)

Surely there were many in the 1970s and 1980s. In the 1984 NLCS between the Cubs and Padres, neither team had any gray in any of their uniforms.[/quote]

You’re a winner! Darn, that was easier than I thought. I’ll see, when time permits, if I can determine whether this ever happened any other time.[/quote]

If you don’t include powder blue as merely another version of the traditional grey road uniform, then the 1982 NLCS (St. Louis vs. Atlanta) would also qualify as a grey-less series, but I don’t think it’s the same thing as 1984, when both Cubs and Pads wore dark jerseys and white pants on the road.[/quote]

The 1980 World Series Philly vs KC was another powder blue-for-all..[/quote]

I guess I should have phrased the question this way: Has there ever been a postseason series were both teams wore white pants for every game?[/quote]

I mean, except for 1984, has there ever been a postseason series where both teams wore white pants for every game?

[quote comment=”341726″][quote comment=”341725″][quote comment=”341719″][quote comment=”341718″]But the larger issue is that this really speaks to how MLB has completely lost control of lower-leg styling.

Just curious, but why should the commissioner be in control of something like that? I’d rather have each team decide on their look individually.[/quote]

Fine — have each team come up with its own standard look and make them stick to it. That’s all I meant. But it’s crazy that there’s essentially NO protocol for pants and socks.[/quote]

Odd thing about that is that only the NFL and NCAA footballhave sprta strict policies on such things. MLB and NBA/NCAA hoops have, comparatively speaking, traditionally left “from the knees down and the elbows down” as areas of relatively free expression.

Not saying what’s right or wrong, just what has been.

—Ricko[/quote]
The NFL may have regulations, but link.[/quote]

That first picture is definitely a redone Deion Sanders illustration.

[quote comment=”341709″][quote comment=”341674″][quote comment=”341669″]Wilt could do it all…I seem to recall that he played in a pro volleyball and considered boxing.[/quote]

I recall a show featuring Howard Cosell, Muhammad Ali, and Wilt (yeah, when originally shown) and Ali kept baiting Wilt to box him. Wilt’s response each time was to produce a contract and it would be a done deal. Wilt was also quite a swordsman, coxswain, and bareback equestrian![/quote]

Yeah, but could he teach German shepherds to bark in Russian? Did his blood smell like cologne? Did the sun come up later on May 6, in case his Cinco party ran late?[/quote]
that would be German Shepard in Spanish, he could speack french, in russian.

Burhle of the Chi SOX fisnished a perfect game

[quote comment=”341786″]Burhle of the Chi SOX fisnished a perfect game[/quote]

He owes his CF something special for that catch in the ninth.

Next year’s all star game released:

link

[quote comment=”341789″][quote comment=”341788″][quote comment=”341786″]Burhle of the Chi SOX fisnished a perfect game[/quote]

He owes his CF something special for that catch in the ninth.[/quote]
Can you really call it “perfect” even though they link?[/quote]

Is this the first perfect game in an alternate uniform?

[quote comment=”341792″]
Is this the first perfect game in an alternate uniform?[/quote]First perfecto in five years if that helps.

In history, this is # 18. I’m guessing we don’t have to research the first 15 or so for uniforms.

[quote comment=”341794″][quote comment=”341792″]
Is this the first perfect game in an alternate uniform?[/quote]First perfecto in five years if that helps.

In history, this is # 18. I’m guessing we don’t have to research the first 15 or so for uniforms.[/quote]

#17 looks clean: link

did wells or cone wear alts?

[quote comment=”341799″]Cone: typical home Yankee pinstripes.[/quote]
And the same for Wells, if you trust YouTube.

I’m sure that Cooperstown will want Buhrle’s uniform, but Uniwatch should consider putting in a request anyway. ;-)

Damn. link, you are right on top of things.

[quote comment=”341792″]
Is this the first perfect game in an alternate uniform?[/quote]

Probably the first in an alt uniform; and undoubtedly the first time Barack Obama has called the pitcher to offer congratulations. :-)

(I think Barack would have called even if the Sox were in their home pinstripes today.)

[quote comment=”341805″]
I want to say Randy Johnson was wearing an alt?[/quote]
It was a vest, so whatever that counts as:

link

[quote comment=”341795″][quote comment=”341777″]A better question would be, since the heyday of of the alt jersey, has there been a post season series that featured nothing but white jerseys versus gray jerseys?[/quote]

2002 World Series.[/quote]
Even more recent. The last World Series, Rays and Phillies. The Rays debuted their double-blue scheme that year and did not have their softball top at that time. The Phillies also do not have a softball top.
It’s also the last consistent “name v name” series, i.e.: no “Philadelphia” or “Tampa Bay” jerseys. Always read as “Phillies” v “Rays.” Personally, I was rooting for the cream alts to make an appearance, as it would have been a WS matchup of two brand new jerseys.

[quote comment=”341809″][quote comment=”341788″][quote comment=”341786″]Burhle of the Chi SOX fisnished a perfect game[/quote]

He owes his CF something special for that catch in the ninth.[/quote]

I see a Rolex in someone’s future.[/quote]
$56 says Buehrle wears the black jersey next home start.

[quote comment=”341800″][quote comment=”341799″]Cone: typical home Yankee pinstripes.[/quote]
And the same for Wells, if you trust YouTube.

I’m sure that Cooperstown will want Buhrle’s uniform, but Uniwatch should consider putting in a request anyway. ;-)[/quote]
I think we have a certain guy in mom jeans and a white sox jacket ahead of us too.

[quote comment=”341795″][quote comment=”341777″]A better question would be, since the heyday of of the alt jersey, has there been a post season series that featured nothing but white jerseys versus gray jerseys?[/quote]

2002 World Series.[/quote]

….and what a GREAT series it was! Seven full games and one hell of a comeback to stay alive in game 6. There is a reason my lisence plate reads 02 GAME6.

ps, dig the ASG logo too

[quote comment=”341664″]”the President of Kenya ”

Paul:

I know that this is your site, and I, too, do not like the health care plan, But I find that comment a little too offensive.[/quote]

Peter,

Don’t be upset, you see the Mets have begun their annual September slide two months early this year. You couple that with the Yankees being in first place – Paul probably had a mini-stroke or something. Wait until Pedro blanks them in a couple of weeks – then the fur will fly.

[quote comment=”341817″]Solid uni list done by the NY Daily News:
link

Solid list indeed…until they mentioned the Chargers current light blues and the pinstriped Magic.

[quote comment=”341809″]I see a Rolex in someone’s future.[/quote]
Already asked, but not answered: In the post-game Buehrle said that for his no-no he gave everyone on the squad a watch, and he noted that now he’ll have to top that for this perfecto.

Some of the talking heads here have noted that there was only the briefest of glances towards the wall as Wise took off full steam ahead.

Rajai Davis is wearing the logo stirrups again tonight.

[quote comment=”341657″]It can’t be McCann’s helmet on the Braves coach. McCann’s would come down in the back, like a regular batting helmet. That coach is sporting the John Olerud, on-field version.[/quote]

McCann’s catching helmet from the ASG, not his batting helmet

anyone watching MLB network (cards/nats)…

brendan ryan just flew out to nyjer morgan

and all was right with the world

On the subject of today being the only perfect game pitched in an alt uni, I’ve done some less-than-thorough research today.

Here are the pitchers who were on teams that I know for sure had an alt during the season of the perfect game:

link (Arizona, 2004) – clearly not wearing an alt.
link (Cleveland, 1981) – also not an alt.
link (Oakland, 1968) – Ummm… maybe an alt? That’s the best picture I could find. You tell me if those unis are yellow or white.

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Watching the replay of today’s game now. Hawk Harrelson clearly in violation of the “don’t mention you-know-what” rule: “CALL YOUR SONS! CALL YOUR DAUGHTERS! CALL YOUR FRIENDS! CALL YOUR NEIGHBORS! MARK BUEHRLE HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING TO THE NINTH!”

[quote comment=”341829″]Was just now looking for a photo of the Twins’ “vests” so I searched google images for Livan Hernandez. Amazing. Looks like an album of MLB unis. He has been SO many places.

LOL

—Ricko[/quote]

He is the Jimmy Jackson of MLB.
imagine what you could find if you were to look up Kenny Lofton or Gary Sheffield.

[quote comment=”341831″]Anyone heard if the Cowboys have a new uni refresh for this season, when they open the new place?[/quote]
Neither link nor link will be wearing one. That’s gotta be pretty refreshing.

Some help for anyone who has trouble with those 5950 stickers
link

Scored a 18, the batting helmet ? is a good one. The “42” ? was difficult to understand.

It used to be common when a new player joined the team on a road trip or something, he would play with no name on the back of his jersey. This hasn’t happened in years. Can anyone remember who the last player was that had this happen?