Uni Watch Field Trip: An Afternoon at the Meadowlands

#4 in the Giants pictures was Tuffy Leemans, who after football retired to my home town in Maryland and ran a duckpin bowling alley there. I remember going there with my mom as a child and taking my son there when he was a pre-schooler. It just closed down a few years ago. What a shame.

Tom Glavine, prima-donna a’hole supreme that he is, will skip the induction, partially because he knows the resultant waves and waves and waves of catcalls he will hear wouldn’t help the players’ union.

Great breakdown of the Brazilian national jerseys.

I was curious if anyone knew why on the current Brazilian national jersys, the five stars (each representing a World Cup championship) featured on their socks are two different colors. Four stars are one color, while the fifth is a different color. What is the significance of this fifth star being a different color?

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According to this blog post, there are six teams teaming up with Victoria’s Secret… the Red Sox, the Mets, the Yankees, the Phillies, the Cubs, and the White Sox
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[quote comment=”340612″][quote comment=”340611″]Great breakdown of the Brazilian national jerseys.

I was curious if anyone knew why on the current Brazilian national jersys, the five stars (each representing a World Cup championship) featured on their socks are two different colors. Four stars are one color, while the fifth is a different color. What is the significance of this fifth star being a different color?

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You can see this detail a little better on their away kits.

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50th Anniversary of their 1st World Cup Title?

Thats just a guess, by the way

Awesome that Skiba showed you around like that. When are you meeting with Charlie Samuels so you can punch him in the face?

Thanks to Paul and Skibs for an awesome Friday morning gift. That was awesome stuff!

I’m very disappointed in the Baylor uniform changes. They went from a classic, clean link to a Nike template, adding black trim, and switching to white shoes.

Skeebs has to have one of the coolest jobs.

btw, the high tech vehicle has the old giants helmet.

also, the kibbie dome in idaho also does not put its goal posts into the ground. you will need to look close, but it is into the wall.

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[quote comment=”340614″]Those Mallards jerseys won’t be confused with anything else. That is for sure… except for maybe those new Seahawks jerseys that Yahoo was talking about. ;)

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“Quack To The Future”? Seriously? I guess with the Flames abandoning Moline, the IHL will fill the gap.

I don’t mind the alternates, but that other logo is bound to give little kids nightmares.

Here’s the #31 that will be placed on the plaza outside Turner Field:

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It will go alongside #3 (Dale Murphy), #21 (Warren Spahn), #35 (Phil Neikro), #41 (Eddie Matthews), #42 (Jackie Robinson), and #44 (Hank Aaron).

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Maddux’s number will also hang on the left field uppder deck facade, and will be in the number font currently used by the Braves.

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They’ll probably be adding quite a few numbers over the next couple years. Glavine’s #47, Smoltz’s #29, Bobby Cox’s #6, and Chipper Jones’ #10 will all be up there once they retire.

[quote comment=”340618″]Here is a question for any of you old IHL fans. I was looking at some pictures of the Detroit Vipers, and came across this shot:

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It appears that the Vipers defenseman has his number on his pants, which would be new to me. I checked some other photos, and there was nothing there.

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Was this something they tried for a while?[/quote]

It’s not a number. Its link on the pants.

The underside of the Burger King jerseys are genius!

– The “ny” logo is everywhere – on walls, on trash cans, even on drainage plate.

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:)

Absolutely LOVIN the Gnts photos. That is some great stuff. Looking forward to seeing the new jerseys and no red, thank the lord.

Also, is it me, or does Coughlin look like he could rip your arms off and beat you with them in that old photo? I mean, he looks tough. Never would have thought of him in that light, compared to the elderly lookin guy he is now.

(Note to self: Don’t piss off Coughlin….)

:D

Question for the lawyerly-types: regarding the proposed noseguards, why the R with a circle for Riddell, but not for the Giants symbol?

Is it that the Giants symbol is assumed to be trademarked, but the word Riddell is not?

Also, regarding the Triple-A jerseys. That’s one nice thing about the I-Cubs…..almost never see stuff like that. It’s like baseball uniform goodiness almost every time you attend.

(Now, the beers and dogs that cost more than Wrigley is another thing, all together….)

;)

Paul,

Maybe tell us *why* you can’t tell us most things?

Is it marketing (i.e. its something that will be unveiled later).

Is it a trade secret (i.e. something they don’t want other teams to hear about, ever).

[quote comment=”340614″]Those Mallards jerseys won’t be confused with anything else. That is for sure… except for maybe those new Seahawks jerseys that Yahoo was talking about. ;)

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I had a friend at the Mallards’ jersey unveiling press conference and he said the new jerseys really aren’t lime green. He said it’s just the lighting in the pictures that makes them look that way.

[quote]Why wouldn’t Nike want to have a big-name sporting the Converse label?[/quote]

probably the reason they dumped d-wade from converse

the Kibbie dome in Moscow, Wyoming has the goalposts attached to the end walls and thats there they play there games at, not a practice facility

[quote comment=”340631″]The underside of the Burger King jerseys are genius![/quote]

I don’t understand why Paul seems to find Burger King jersey sponsorship more offensive than other shirt sponsorships. Yes I understand that no sponsorship is the ideal, but is Burger King worse than Fly Emirates or T-Mobile?

[quote comment=”340625″][quote comment=”340614″]Those Mallards jerseys won’t be confused with anything else. That is for sure… except for maybe those new Seahawks jerseys that Yahoo was talking about. ;)

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“Quack To The Future”? Seriously? I guess with the Flames abandoning Moline, the IHL will fill the gap.

I don’t mind the alternates, but that other logo is bound to give little kids nightmares.[/quote]

Yeah, “Quack to the Future” is not the best slogan. Team wise though, they had to return to the Mallards name in the QCs. There were a great deal of fans that wouldn’t go to games just becasue the team wasn’t the Mallards anymore.

I honestly think the Flames abandoned the QCs before the franchise played its first game. They really never did much to much to make that work at all. I think they used the QCs, as well as Omaha before, as a stepping stone for greener pastures. Of course local management didn’t help the cause either. They never advertised the team or had any big time promotions to bring in the crowds.

I was walking around one of the QC malls in a Flames jersey prior to a game last year (the teams 2nd season in the QCs) and got stopped by somebody asking me what team jersey that was. I told them and asked them where they were from, expecting an out of towner, the person was from MOLINE. They’re next question was, “The Mallards are gone, when did that happen?”

People there won’t know what they had until it’s gone. Tickets for Mallards games this year is actually higher than what tickets were to Flames games last season.

Looking at all those practice facility photos for the Giants reminds me A LOT of Lambeau Field.

Indoor practice center (Don Hutson Center):
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Shaped like a football locker room:
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Anyways, I am not saying they copied the Pack, just that there are a lot of facilities that look similar. A lot of people around the league (since the 2003 renovation) have said the packers have some of the best facilites people have ever seen. So if you are going to copy something, copy from the best. And again, I am not accusing the Giant of copying from the Pack, just saying it is similar.

And while looking for something else:
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[quote comment=”340656″][quote comment=”340645″][quote comment=”340641″]Paul,

Maybe tell us *why* you can’t tell us most things?

Is it marketing (i.e. its something that will be unveiled later).

Is it a trade secret (i.e. something they don’t want other teams to hear about, ever).[/quote]

Some of it is marketing/embargo/etc. — will be revealed later.

In the case of the 2011 throwback, it hasn’t been officially approved by the league yet (although my impression is that that’s just a formality).[/quote]

I know Paul can’t reveal the throwback, but who wants to venture some guesses as to what the throwback will look like?

I think it’s gotta be a jersey celebrating the 25th anniversary of the 86 Super Bowl champs.

Thoughts?[/quote]

The 1975 look?

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Those Quad City Mallards sweaters are BAD. but it is the IHL, so it goes with the quality of hockey.

John Daly at The Open, Round Two:

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He even switches jackets:
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CLASSIC DALY:
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Or maybe the unis will be more navy, like the old days:

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The ’76 Csonka blue pants and striped socks look?

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I kinda think it’s too soon to bring back the 80s look, because it was also the 90s look. They wore these as recently as 1999, so that’s just too recent for a throwback.

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Oh, and link

Perfect, considering he’s wearing pants from the H.R. Pufnstuf era.
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What’s up with the grip it and rip it bracelet?

[quote comment=”340650″][quote comment=”340646″]D-Wade switching from Converse to Nike. Although I guess that’s just a change in name only, since Nike owns Converse. Why wouldn’t Nike want to have a big-name sporting the Converse label? Doesn’t that hurt their asset?

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They about to pull the plug on Converse, maybe?
In this economy, sales could be way, way down on second-tier brands.

—Ricko[/quote]

People love the Chucks though.

[quote comment=”340668″]take a look at the size of the steelers rings:
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as for the gmen, 1986 sounds right.[/quote]

Not these, complete with high white socks striped to match jerseys?
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—Ricko

New unifroms announced for the IHL’s Quad City Mallards.
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[quote comment=”340675″][quote comment=”340668″]take a look at the size of the steelers rings:
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as for the gmen, 1986 sounds right.[/quote]

Not these, complete with high white socks striped to match jerseys?
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—Ricko[/quote]

Let’s try that again.
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Homer Jones. He invented the spike, you know.

—Ricko

or are you asking if the bracelet “stands” for something, like golfers against bad golf attire

the latter.

looks like it stands for a way to pay his alimonies.

and why a lion? shouldn’t it be a razorback or flintstone?

[quote comment=”340657″]
Anyways, I am not saying they copied the Pack, just that there are a lot of facilities that look similar. A lot of people around the league (since the 2003 renovation) have said the packers have some of the best facilites people have ever seen. So if you are going to copy something, copy from the best. And again, I am not accusing the Giant of copying from the Pack, just saying it is similar.[/quote]
Yeah, you have to admit that there’s only so much you can do with a steel-columned building.

Logically though, Packers, Vikings, Bills etc. should have been some of the first with an indoor building. So more than likely some of the architects for the rest of the teams went up to see what worked/didn’t work for the Pack when they built their buildings.

Paul,

Any word on the other teams testing the new high-tech fabric? Namely the Packers?

[quote comment=”340678″]Anyone want to bet me a Frozen Custard at Culver’s, that Marquette will be getting new basketball Uniforms this fall, since Mr. Wade is now a Jordan Brand employee?[/quote]
What, you aren’t willing to go for the full Butterburger Super Value Meal? :-)

[quote comment=”340659″][quote comment=”340656″][quote comment=”340645″][quote comment=”340641″]Paul,

Maybe tell us *why* you can’t tell us most things?

Is it marketing (i.e. its something that will be unveiled later).

Is it a trade secret (i.e. something they don’t want other teams to hear about, ever).[/quote]

Some of it is marketing/embargo/etc. — will be revealed later.

In the case of the 2011 throwback, it hasn’t been officially approved by the league yet (although my impression is that that’s just a formality).[/quote]

I know Paul can’t reveal the throwback, but who wants to venture some guesses as to what the throwback will look like?

I think it’s gotta be a jersey celebrating the 25th anniversary of the 86 Super Bowl champs.

Thoughts?[/quote]

The 1975 look?

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Oooooh…I’d like that.

[quote comment=”340618″]Here is a question for any of you old IHL fans. I was looking at some pictures of the Detroit Vipers, and came across this shot:

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It appears that the Vipers defenseman has his number on his pants, which would be new to me. I checked some other photos, and there was nothing there.

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Was this something they tried for a while?[/quote]

He is wearing CCM pants. Back then the logo was on the side of the leg.

Grip it and Rip it is John Daly’s slogan…so a marketing decision

[quote comment=”340688″]Cowboys…[/quote]
The ‘Pokes don’t need a very “permanent” building for the most part.

I’m guessing that the Florida Georgia, Carolina group aren’t springing for a building in the same style as the Packers, Bears & Browns.

[quote comment=”340681″]or are you asking if the bracelet “stands” for something, like golfers against bad golf attire

the latter.

looks like it stands for a way to pay his alimonies.

and why a lion? shouldn’t it be a razorback or flintstone?[/quote]

For a while now (7-10 years?) people have called John Daly “The Lion”, or “Lion Heart”. The reason for it is after his stint with alcoholism and all that stuff, he came back, got his life together, and has been playing decent golf. So they say he has the “heart of a lion”.

I’m pretty sure that is it, but I could do some more digging on the interweb.

The pics of those tuxedo unis should come with a huge warning. Maybe NSFTWT (Not Safe For Those With Taste) or something along those lines. That was BRUTAL!

The ‘Pokes don’t need a very “permanent” building for the most part.

Just one that doesn’t collapse on them (sigh).

I didn’t know Beckham always wore sleeves. Is it because he is hiding his “sleeves”?

He says that it’s because he grew up (in London) wearing long sleeves and has always found it more comfortable. The competitive season in Europe is fall-to-spring, though, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the heat and humidity at the Meadowlands last night was just too much for him.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if Landon bribed the kitman to “forget” Beckham’s preferred shirt.

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I didn’t know Beckham always wore sleeves. [/quote]

Reverse Jerry Rice.[/quote]

Beckham, that is.

The Iron Pigs were in tuxedo jerseys because there was a wedding at the stadium before the game.

[quote comment=”340696″]A little advice for the Mallard “models”…
don’t keep your arms behind your back. I couldn’t see the stripe combos on two of the jerseys.

I didn’t know Beckham always wore sleeves. Is it because he is hiding his “sleeves”?

What a disgraceful move by Baylor. I’ve had to watch Mizzou wear that hideous concept for some time.[/quote]

I’ve been paying attention to football since the 1950s and don’t remember a white Baylor helmet. When was the last time they wore a white helmet? Did they ever?

—Ricko

[quote comment=”340710″]Not exactly uni-related – more branding-related … what is the opinion of the term “New York Football Giants”? Isn’t that just a bit redundant? I can understand when the city had two teams in different sports with the same name, but that was … 50 years ago. Do we really need to hear “New York Football Giants?”

I don’t see or hear “The St. Louis Baseball Cardinals” – so why do the Giants feel the need to emphasize their sport?

Just curious …[/quote]

Is it a formal designation? I always took it that guys like Berman were saying it for the nostalgia value, to sort of indicate how long the team’s been around, cuz it was just…fun.

But whaddo I know.

—Ricko

[quote] what is the opinion of the term “New York Football Giants”? Isn’t that just a bit redundant?[/quote]

they were incorporated as the NYFG, so it’s more of a legal than a practical term

plus, who doesn’t have visions (echoes?) of john facenda’s beautiful “the New York Football Giants” when describing the teams earlier days?

yeah…stoneham pulled the baseball giants out of NY long ago…but they’ve ALWAYS been the NYFG

[quote]guys like Berman were saying it for the nostalgia value[/quote]

“guys like berman” … meaning douchebags … were merely mimicking EVERY PREVIOUS broadcaster who ever used a particular ‘term’ or ‘influxation'(such as the NYFG i spoke of above)

even “back back back” is a ripoff of someone (forget who)

he may view it as an homage…i view it as unnecessary and incessant

berman should be forced to come up with his OWN catchphrases … oh wait… he can’t

[quote comment=”340714″][quote comment=”340713″][quote] what is the opinion of the term “New York Football Giants”? Isn’t that just a bit redundant?[/quote]

they were incorporated as the NYFG, so it’s more of a legal than a practical term

plus, who doesn’t have visions (echoes?) of john facenda’s beautiful “the New York Football Giants” when describing the teams earlier days?

yeah…stoneham pulled the baseball giants out of NY long ago…but they’ve ALWAYS been the NYFG[/quote]

So it’s both. An official designation, and a bit of nostalgia.

Now we know.[/quote]

[sarcasm]I’m going with the more contemporary answer. It’s the height of our society’s advancement.

When you consider the number of people who say “ATM machine” and “PIN number”, it’s clear that we’re stuck in the midst of the redundant era.[/sarcasm]

[quote comment=”340618″]Here is a question for any of you old IHL fans. I was looking at some pictures of the Detroit Vipers, and came across this shot:

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It appears that the Vipers defenseman has his number on his pants, which would be new to me. I checked some other photos, and there was nothing there.

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Was this something they tried for a while?[/quote]

Not to my knowledge and I attended A LOT of Vipers games.

nike just released the updated list of tiger’s open outfits

Paul —

Coming from a huge NYG fan, fantastic stuff.

Did Joe take you offsite for lunch? Rutt’s? I would have suggested Annabella’s or the Thursday General Tso’s special at Village Gourmet (frequented by Lawrence Frank, Rod Thorn and a bunch of NJSEA d-bags).

Love the Paramus Spartans gear. The Skibas are good people, as are most of the NYG support staff; played softball against them for years…

[quote comment=”340715″]even “back back back” is a ripoff of someone (forget who)[/quote]
Maybe Jack Brickhouse.

Now if Brick ripped it off from someone else, well then we’d really have a story.

[quote comment=”340721″]nike just released the updated list of link[/quote]

Good one!

Wonder what John Daly will be wearing Sunday?

[quote comment=”340703″]I didn’t know Beckham always wore sleeves. Is it because he is hiding his “sleeves”?

He says that it’s because he grew up (in London) wearing long sleeves and has always found it more comfortable. The competitive season in Europe is fall-to-spring, though, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the heat and humidity at the Meadowlands last night was just too much for him.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if Landon bribed the kitman to “forget” Beckham’s preferred shirt.[/quote]
That, and I also heard that while he likes his tattoos, he realizes some spectators will not, so he opts for the cover-up shirt every time.

No, that’s not it.

He has always stated it’s tradition/superstition/preference, not because he wants to hide tattoos. He wore long sleeves MOST of the time even early in his career (you can find the link of him in short sleeves, though).

[quote comment=”340717″][quote comment=”340714″][quote comment=”340713″][quote] what is the opinion of the term “New York Football Giants”? Isn’t that just a bit redundant?[/quote]

they were incorporated as the NYFG, so it’s more of a legal than a practical term

plus, who doesn’t have visions (echoes?) of john facenda’s beautiful “the New York Football Giants” when describing the teams earlier days?

yeah…stoneham pulled the baseball giants out of NY long ago…but they’ve ALWAYS been the NYFG[/quote]

So it’s both. An official designation, and a bit of nostalgia.

Now we know.[/quote]

[sarcasm]I’m going with the more contemporary answer. It’s the height of our society’s advancement.

When you consider the number of people who say “ATM machine” and “PIN number”, it’s clear that we’re stuck in the midst of the redundant era.[/sarcasm][/quote]

Yup, that’s the general consensus.
(smirk)

—Ricko

[quote comment=”340734″]I’d also like to order a great big huge hamburger.[/quote]
Those are best at about 3 a.m. in the morning.

[quote comment=”340709″][quote comment=”340696″]A little advice for the Mallard “models”…
don’t keep your arms behind your back. I couldn’t see the stripe combos on two of the jerseys.

I didn’t know Beckham always wore sleeves. Is it because he is hiding his “sleeves”?

What a disgraceful move by Baylor. I’ve had to watch Mizzou wear that hideous concept for some time.[/quote]

I’ve been paying attention to football since the 1950s and don’t remember a white Baylor helmet. When was the last time they wore a white helmet? Did they ever?

—Ricko[/quote]

1969 – 1971

[quote comment=”340738″][quote comment=”340631″]The underside of the Burger King jerseys are genius![/quote]

Should be listed in Sports Illustrated as “This Week’s Sign Of The Apocalypse”.[/quote]

Indeed. One the most strangely disquieting ad campaigns in years can now be encountered at any moment, anywhere (and you may have to look at some guy’s stomach at the same time).

—Ricko

[quote comment=\”340698\”][quote comment=\”340687\”][quote comment=\”340678\”]Anyone want to bet me a Frozen Custard at Culver\’s, that Marquette will be getting new basketball Uniforms this fall, since Mr. Wade is now a Jordan Brand employee?[/quote]
What, you aren\’t willing to go for the full Butterburger Super Value Meal? :-)[/quote]

I believe they call them \”Value Baskets\”.

And the first UWer to visit me in Janesville, WI gets a free lunch from me since I live right next to a Culver\’s![/quote]

How do you feel about dinner on the 31st? I\’ll be moving to Louisiana for grad school and will be heading down 39 to avoid 294 around Chicago.

-Greenie

[quote comment=”340740″]guess what came in today 5 days early. new instructions posted soon. that is all.[/quote]

DIY BK jersey?

[quote comment=”340740″]guess what came in today 5 days early. new instructions posted soon. that is all.[/quote]
If I had a dollar for every time I heard that re: a menstrual cycle…

Regarding the Getafe jerseys-

Reading from the footballshirtculture.com message boards, there’s some doubt if the King’s really on the underside of the shirt. Take it for what’s it worth :-S

Yes I understand that no sponsorship is the ideal, but is Burger King worse than Fly Emirates or T-Mobile?

I’m guessing fast food sponsorships rank “worse” than airlines and cell phones because the bad health perception of the first one. I’ll agree to disagree, but hopefully I interpreted that right.

[quote comment=”340698″]I believe they call them “Value Baskets”.[/quote]
LOL! Yeah they certainly do. ;-)

There’s one not more than 2-3 miles from me. I first experienced them on a trip to Mad-town a while back. One thing I’ve noticed (and maybe it’s because this is getting more important to me in my old age) is that they’re about as hyper as any restaurant in terms of cleanliness and cleaning up the dining room.

[quote comment=”340735″]Those are best at about 3 a.m. in the morning.[/quote]
JTH, I’m sure you know that White Castle is about the only 24 hour restaurant that’s open at 3:00 am in the morning.

I am also very disappointed in Baylor’s decision here….not so much with the white helmet…much more so with the black….

[quote comment=”340753″][quote comment=”340735″]Those are best at about 3 a.m. in the morning.[/quote]
JTH, I’m sure you know that White Castle is about the only 24 hour restaurant that’s open at 3:00 am in the morning.[/quote]

Ah, yes, fine dining in the world famous Porcelain Room.

[quote comment=”340757″]Ah, yes, fine dining in the world famous Porcelain Room.[/quote]
Well a different Porcelain room is needed later.

Don’t forget to get the Sunday paper if you’ve been to Whitey’s on Saturday night.

[quote comment=”340760″]S’ok, I’m just being a smart ass for no good reason.[/quote]
Okay. It took me quite a while to catch on to some of the running jokes around here. :-)

[quote comment=”340715″][quote]guys like Berman were saying it for the nostalgia value[/quote]

“guys like berman” … meaning douchebags … were merely mimicking EVERY PREVIOUS broadcaster who ever used a particular ‘term’ or ‘influxation'(such as the NYFG i spoke of above)

even “back back back” is a ripoff of someone (forget who)

he may view it as an homage…i view it as unnecessary and incessant

berman should be forced to come up with his OWN catchphrases … oh wait… he can’t[/quote]

Proud to say I have my own Berman nickname, bestowed upon me in a leetter he wrote me after we did a phoner interview. I called around to various sports figures toget audio for an Anthony Munoz tribute thing I was making for our station.

“Brinke’s Robbery.”

[quote comment=”340749″]Regarding the Getafe jerseys-

Reading from the footballshirtculture.com message boards, there’s some doubt if the King’s really on the underside of the shirt. Take it for what’s it worth :-S

Yes I understand that no sponsorship is the ideal, but is Burger King worse than Fly Emirates or T-Mobile?

I’m guessing fast food sponsorships rank “worse” than airlines and cell phones because the bad health perception of the first one. I’ll agree to disagree, but hopefully I interpreted that right.[/quote]

so toothpaste sponsorship would rank ahead of airlines and cell phones then?

As for the Giants, I’m hoping for the Homer Jones era white throwback, too. Would bring back memories of seeing the Giants at Yankee Stadium as a kid. They wore the all-white uni for all home games in ’67, and it looked damn sharp with the stripes on the white socks matching the stripes on the jersey.

Yet another team copying from the greatest franchise in sports, the Green Bay Packers. Trend setters. The rubes in NY like Lukas will think they are doing something unique, lol.

[quote comment=”340762″][quote comment=”340709″][quote comment=”340696″]A little advice for the Mallard “models”…
don’t keep your arms behind your back. I couldn’t see the stripe combos on two of the jerseys.

I didn’t know Beckham always wore sleeves. Is it because he is hiding his “sleeves”?

What a disgraceful move by Baylor. I’ve had to watch Mizzou wear that hideous concept for some time.[/quote]

I’ve been paying attention to football since the 1950s and don’t remember a white Baylor helmet. When was the last time they wore a white helmet? Did they ever?

—Ricko[/quote]

They wore them for three seasons from 69-71 and won 3 games in those seasons. Baylor plays Mizzou and Wake Forest who share the same Nike template. Don’t like the black.

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I hate the whole kitten and caboodle.

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“greatest franchise in sports”?

That’s a lofty title for a team that has some history, but nowhere near the success of others.[/quote]
Teebz, that should say “greatest franchise in the universe”.

Trust me, we aren’t copying anyone Kevin…

[quote comment=”340768″][quote comment=”340716″][quote comment=”340689″][quote comment=”340659″]The 1975 look?
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Oooooh…I’d like that.[/quote]
I know I’m in the minority, but I love that logo. Distant Replays once had a hat with the italicized NY logo on it, but it was one of their hideous New Era fitted thug jobs with piping on every panel. Yecch.[/quote]
[quote comment=”340716″][quote comment=”340689″][quote comment=”340659″]The 1975 look?
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Oooooh…I’d like that.[/quote]
I know I’m in the minority, but I love that logo. Distant Replays once had a hat with the italicized NY logo on it, but it was one of their hideous New Era fitted thug jobs with piping on every panel. Yecch.[/quote]

I too, love that helmet logo.[/quote]

Add me to the love for that logo.

Thanks to Paul and Joe for the awesome Giants facility tour. Those vintage wall coverings are brilliant.

Paul, did you get any word back from the Seahawks about them wearing the alt. green jersey this season? Lots of green at the Pro Shop, and some employees are saying they will be wearing the green jersey for a couple games? eek……….I fear the worst, hope for the best.

oops, HERE’s Tarkenton…
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—Ricko

[quote comment=”340782″]Why Giants wear red numbers, stripes and socks with their white jerseys…
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They haven’t ALWAYS been known as the “Big Blue.” That’s relatively recent.

—Ricko[/quote]

“Big Blue” heads(helmets)….heh heh.

[quote comment=”340770″][quote comment=”340769″]Yet another team copying from the greatest franchise in sports, the Green Bay Packers. Trend setters. The rubes in NY like Lukas will think they are doing something unique, lol.[/quote]

“greatest franchise in sports”?

That’s a lofty title for a team that has some history, but nowhere near the success of others.[/quote]

I knew my earlier comments might turn into this type of discussion. *sigh* Again, I am not accusing the Giants of copying the Packers. I just wanted to point out some similarities the two teams had, nothing more.

Quick question for Mr. Skiba… have you ever been to Lambeau Field (since renovation) for pleasure and were able to really look around and at least kind of see where I am coming from with my comments? I obviously know you were there for the ’07 NFC Championship, but you probably had other things to worry about while in Title Town.

[quote comment=”340753″][quote comment=”340735″]Those are best at about 3 a.m. in the morning.[/quote]
JTH, I’m sure you know that White Castle is about the only 24 hour restaurant that’s open at 3:00 am in the morning.[/quote]

I wish we had White Castle’s on the West Coast. Grew up goin’ there.

But…

we have IN and OUT BURGER.

You all on the East Coast have no idea what you’re missing..

Blue on Blue match-up tonight in Toronto. Toronto with their powder blue throwbacks and the Sox with their (seldom used) blue alts.

[quote comment=”340781″]oops, HERE’s Tarkenton…
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—Ricko[/quote]

Oopsies.
I meant this is damn near flawless.

[quote comment=”340788″][quote comment=”340784″]A lonnnnnnng time ago, the White Sox were pondering a move to St. Petersburg. So I designed some unis adding yellow for brightness, that could be used for White Sox, I pondered, if they changed their name to “Sun Sox”.

Messed around with a logo, too. Turned out…interesting. Sometimes I think it’s a lefthanded hitter driving one toward the palm trees in the distance…or a righty pulling one toward the viewer.

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—Ricko[/quote]

Nice work! That was a real treat. Thanks for that, Ricko.[/quote]

Yep, I second that. Nice!

no screen shot but the Royals are having a hall of fame game right now before their game with the Rays. Im looking at George Brett in powder blues right now!

Granted its the “new”powder blues but they got pants and everything. Hopefully this is a good thing and the boys are wearing the same.

Hope nobody thinks I’m wasting space, but I’m sitting here looking for something in particular and finding lots of oddball stuff, or things mentioned here in the past.

Here’s a shot of Mike Phipps showing…
a) Those black Ohio State TV numbers.
b) That one-year special Purdue helmet decal that’s been discussed.
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—Ricko

Good decision the White Sox made not moving to Tampa Bay. While they’ll always be the 2nd baseball team in the 2nd city, Tampa Bay has proven to be a horrible baseball market, with one asterix.

The asterix being how much does what appear to be the most gloomy non-astmospheric stadium in baseball – come into their poor support. Atmosphere counts !! – as the restaurant industry knows – and such events as the Winter Classic prove out.

I realize someone going to say, well their attendance has improved. I would argue, the fact that they made the World Series last year and truly have an exciting team, and yet still draw some very low crowds – must really be alarming to the owners – who appear to be some of the better owners a team can have

[quote comment=”340640″][quote comment=”340620″]the Steelers’ golden triangle design would be much cooler if (a) they hadn’t sucked so much when they wore them and (b) if Jason hadn’t picked the number of Kent Nix, one of the players that made the sucking even more painful than it already was. No Bill Nelsen, he.[/quote]

Haha- yes, they sucked pretty bad when they wore these. But I love the story and inspiration for the design, and it’s rather unique. Plus, I think it looks cool.

Oh, and the number definitely isn’t for Nix. :)[/quote]

Roy Gerela?

Strong-armed outfield prospect whose baseball career never amounted to much.
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—Ricko

[quote comment=”340645″][quote comment=”340641″]Paul,

Maybe tell us *why* you can’t tell us most things?

Is it marketing (i.e. its something that will be unveiled later).

Is it a trade secret (i.e. something they don’t want other teams to hear about, ever).[/quote]

Some of it is marketing/embargo/etc. — will be revealed later.

In the case of the 2011 throwback, it hasn’t been officially approved by the league yet (although my impression is that that’s just a formality).[/quote]

[quote comment=\”340645\”][quote comment=\”340641\”]Paul,

Maybe tell us *why* you can\’t tell us most things?

Is it marketing (i.e. its something that will be unveiled later).

Is it a trade secret (i.e. something they don\’t want other teams to hear about, ever).[/quote]

Some of it is marketing/embargo/etc. — will be revealed later.

In the case of the 2011 throwback, it hasn\’t been officially approved by the league yet (although my impression is that that\’s just a formality).[/quote]
[quote comment=\”340645\”][quote comment=\”340641\”]Paul,

Maybe tell us *why* you can\’t tell us most things?

Is it marketing (i.e. its something that will be unveiled later).

Is it a trade secret (i.e. something they don\’t want other teams to hear about, ever).[/quote]

Some of it is marketing/embargo/etc. — will be revealed later.

In the case of the 2011 throwback, it hasn\’t been officially approved by the league yet (although my impression is that that\’s just a formality).[/quote]

My Dad (81) is a retired journalist, and he always explained to me that if someone said, “off the record…” as a journalist you honored that no matter what, sort of like protecting our sources. One of the reasons I enjoy Paul’s blogs and other columns is that he displays a lot of the ideals of journalism that my Dad instilled upon us kids growing up. In today’s society with so called “TV New” and sensationalism, it is a real treat to read talented writer’s works! Okay, done kissing ass now.

[quote comment=”340803″]Strong-armed outfield prospect whose baseball career never amounted to much.
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—Ricko[/quote]
The rare “good” BFBS.

Thanks for the tour of the Giants’ training site, Paul! I’m intrigued about the 2011 throwback – my vote is for the ’33 or ’34 unis. Those are as cool as the CFL ’60s retros we’re being treated to this week.

[quote]It’s hard to tell how much time Brick might have had to listen to either Reds or Dodgers broadcasts growing up in central Illinois, it’s not outside the realm of possiblity. Improbable? Yes. Impossible? No.[/quote]

in a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened

Well, I finally got it. Phil, I think your gonna love this. This video is played on FS Wisconsin every once in a while showing the Batting Stance Guy. This particular version has the commentary in the background of Prince hitting a walk off home run from last year. It’s pretty awesome! A few notable things.. looks like BSG is wearing some sort of 1970 or ’71 Brewers throwback, and of course, he un-tucks his jersey like Prince, and it comes down to his feet. Pretty funny if you ask me.

Enjoy:

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Craig Morton in a Bears-style helmet and Princeton stripes.
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—Ricko

[quote comment=”340813″]Well, I finally got it. Phil, I think your gonna love this. This video is played on FS Wisconsin every once in a while showing the Batting Stance Guy. This particular version has the commentary in the background of Prince hitting a walk off home run from last year. It’s pretty awesome! A few notable things.. looks like BSG is wearing some sort of 1970 or ’71 Brewers throwback, and of course, he un-tucks his jersey like Prince, and it comes down to his feet. Pretty funny if you ask me.

Enjoy:

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I just vomited.

[quote comment=”340815″]Craig Morton in a Bears-style helmet and Princeton stripes.
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—Ricko[/quote]

Veeeerrry nice! Both teams – so simple yet so veeerrry nice…

What’s with the caption – “A nimrod quarterback, California’s Craig Morton…”

[quote comment=”340804″][quote comment=”340627″]Glavine’s #47, Smoltz’s #29, Bobby Cox’s #6, and Chipper Jones’ #10 will all be up there once they retire.[/quote]

Smoltz probably. Chipper, probably. Never heard of a manager’s number being retired before. Glavine, definitely not. He was one of the most unpopular players on the team, left for a bucket of cash from the Mets, and has been a general jerk so far this season.[/quote]

Glavine’s number will be retired in Atlanta. These hard feelings have a tendencey to disappear over time. His legendary performance in game 6 in 1995 all but assures it.

You have never heard of a manager’s number being retired? Seriously? The Dodgers have 2 and 24 retired in honor of Lasorda and Alston.

Just wanted to remind DirecTV subscribers that they are offering MLB Extra Innings for free from now until the 22nd. They do this once in a while, and it’s pretty sweet. You should check it out for sure.

[quote comment=”340823″]Just wanted to remind DirecTV subscribers that they are offering MLB Extra Innings for free from now until the 22nd. They do this once in a while, and it’s pretty sweet. You should check it out for sure.[/quote]

Thanks! I assumed I wouldn’t get it because I only get local channels through DirecTV, but here it is on my screen…and of course as soon as I say that my Pirates blow another lead.

[quote comment=”340718″]i quite liked the BC Lions retro look last night. Orange is a great accent colour.[/quote]

And kudos for the Calgary Stampeders going NNOB with their ’60s throwbacks tonight.

[quote comment=”340828″]i don’t know whether to thank you or hate you johnny

i get (with cable no less) the free MLB extra innings

just turned on red sox vs. blue jays

may possibly be the WORST uni matchup of the year[/quote]

Quite an eyesore.

[quote comment=”340826″][quote comment=”340792″][quote comment=”340784″]A lonnnnnnng time ago, the White Sox were pondering a move to St. Petersburg. So I designed some unis adding yellow for brightness, that could be used for White Sox, I pondered, if they changed their name to “Sun Sox”.

Messed around with a logo, too. Turned out…interesting. Sometimes I think it’s a lefthanded hitter driving one toward the palm trees in the distance…or a righty pulling one toward the viewer.

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—Ricko[/quote]

When was that? Late 80’s? Early 90’s?
I believe I drew something as well. I think I changed their names to the Sun Rays.
Come to think of it, did the Giants threaten to move to St. Pete in the late 80’s?[/quote]

The White Sox were planning to move in 1988.

The Giants were threatening to move in 1992. If it had not been for that weasel Bill White, they would have been the Tampa Bay Giants in 1993.

Based on a uniform that I saw in a St. Petersburg sporting good store in 1988, this is what the Florida White Sox were going to look like. Very much like the Oakland A’s. Of course, it was just a proposed uniform.

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I cannot even begin to tell you how horrible that is. The STATE OF FLA as the F. Just….bad, bad, bad.

Meanwhile, watching the G-Men @ the Pirates, and I like those black Pirate alts. Why do teams make the logo up high, and then the number down low (on the jersey)- rather than symmetrical?

[quote comment=”340813″]Well, I finally got it. Phil, I think your gonna love this. This video is played on FS Wisconsin every once in a while showing the Batting Stance Guy. This particular version has the commentary in the background of Prince hitting a walk off home run from last year. It’s pretty awesome! A few notable things.. looks like BSG is wearing some sort of 1970 or ’71 Brewers throwback, and of course, he un-tucks his jersey like Prince, and it comes down to his feet. Pretty funny if you ask me.

Enjoy:

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Fox Sport Detroit said tonight that he will be on everygame doing a difference stance.

[quote comment=”340799″]Good decision the White Sox made not moving to Tampa Bay. While they’ll always be the 2nd baseball team in the 2nd city, Tampa Bay has proven to be a horrible baseball market, with one asterix.

The asterix being how much does what appear to be the most gloomy non-astmospheric stadium in baseball – come into their poor support. Atmosphere counts !! – as the restaurant industry knows – and such events as the Winter Classic prove out.

I realize someone going to say, well their attendance has improved. I would argue, the fact that they made the World Series last year and truly have an exciting team, and yet still draw some very low crowds – must really be alarming to the owners – who appear to be some of the better owners a team can have[/quote]

I must strongly disagree.

While the Tampa Bay market was granted an expansion franchise to begin play as the Devil Rays in 1998, it would have been a totally different situation if the White Sox would have moved to St. Petersburg.

While the Devil Rays were a franchise granted to Vince Namoli, the Florida White Sox were going to still be owned by Jerry Reinsdorf & Eddie Einhorn. And ther would not have made the same mistakes that have plagued the ownership of Namoli and hence passed along to the current owners.

It would have been a different franchise with different owners and you can not equate the two. Because Jerry Reinsdorf & Eddie Einhorn would have taken a different approach to marketing a team with a history and proven players, not just castoffs and rejects.

I can agree that if the S.F. Giants would have been sold to Namoli and moved to St. Petersburg, that would have turned out bad, but not even close to the White Sox if they would have moved.

And, as far as The Trop, if you have not been there in the last three years, your opinion is out of date. Granted it is not The Jake, The Cell or even GABP, but it is not a dump that because it is old, it’s a classic like Wrigley, but it is not bad anymore.

You really should read “Stadium For Rent” and it will tell you the whole story of how MLB has screwed the Tampa Bay market for years, and as a result, you have the plagued Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays.

“Stadium For Rent” can be found and read online, as Google is your friend.

[quote comment=”340831″][quote comment=”340826″][quote comment=”340792″][quote comment=”340784″]A lonnnnnnng time ago, the White Sox were pondering a move to St. Petersburg. So I designed some unis adding yellow for brightness, that could be used for White Sox, I pondered, if they changed their name to “Sun Sox”.

Messed around with a logo, too. Turned out…interesting. Sometimes I think it’s a lefthanded hitter driving one toward the palm trees in the distance…or a righty pulling one toward the viewer.

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—Ricko[/quote]

When was that? Late 80’s? Early 90’s?
I believe I drew something as well. I think I changed their names to the Sun Rays.
Come to think of it, did the Giants threaten to move to St. Pete in the late 80’s?[/quote]

The White Sox were planning to move in 1988.

The Giants were threatening to move in 1992. If it had not been for that weasel Bill White, they would have been the Tampa Bay Giants in 1993.

Based on a uniform that I saw in a St. Petersburg sporting good store in 1988, this is what the Florida White Sox were going to look like. Very much like the Oakland A’s. Of course, it was just a proposed uniform.

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I cannot even begin to tell you how horrible that is. The STATE OF FLA as the F. Just….bad, bad, bad.
[/quote]

Check out this cartoon. It has the proposed Tampa Bay Mariners, Florida White Sox and the Tampa Bay Giants logos.

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[quote comment=”340835″][quote comment=”340799″]Good decision the White Sox made not moving to Tampa Bay. While they’ll always be the 2nd baseball team in the 2nd city, Tampa Bay has proven to be a horrible baseball market, with one asterix.

The asterix being how much does what appear to be the most gloomy non-astmospheric stadium in baseball – come into their poor support. Atmosphere counts !! – as the restaurant industry knows – and such events as the Winter Classic prove out.

I realize someone going to say, well their attendance has improved. I would argue, the fact that they made the World Series last year and truly have an exciting team, and yet still draw some very low crowds – must really be alarming to the owners – who appear to be some of the better owners a team can have[/quote]

I must strongly disagree.

While the Tampa Bay market was granted an expansion franchise to begin play as the Devil Rays in 1998, it would have been a totally different situation if the White Sox would have moved to St. Petersburg.

While the Devil Rays were a franchise granted to Vince Namoli, the Florida White Sox were going to still be owned by Jerry Reinsdorf & Eddie Einhorn. And ther would not have made the same mistakes that have plagued the ownership of Namoli and hence passed along to the current owners.

It would have been a different franchise with different owners and you can not equate the two. Because Jerry Reinsdorf & Eddie Einhorn would have taken a different approach to marketing a team with a history and proven players, not just castoffs and rejects.

I can agree that if the S.F. Giants would have been sold to Namoli and moved to St. Petersburg, that would have turned out bad, but not even close to the White Sox if they would have moved.

And, as far as The Trop, if you have not been there in the last three years, your opinion is out of date. Granted it is not The Jake, The Cell or even GABP, but it is not a dump that because it is old, it’s a classic like Wrigley, but it is not bad anymore.

You really should read “Stadium For Rent” and it will tell you the whole story of how MLB has screwed the Tampa Bay market for years, and as a result, you have the plagued Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays.

“Stadium For Rent” can be found and read online, as Google is your friend.[/quote]
Agreed. I found “Stadium For Rent” a few months ago while perusing Baseball Fever. Great read.

And I also agree with your opinion about the Sox. You can’t really compare how the Rays have fared with what the plan would have been had the Sox moved here. Namoli is a dirty word around these parts for what he and his group did with the Devil Rays in their forming years. Since Stuart Sternberg took over, well, the results speak for themselves. It went from a perennial bottom feeder to a constant threat.

I can’t help but think, even after last year, that it would be a completely different ballgame if we were placed in the National League instead of the American League and the Brewers stayed in the AL. Of course, that’s all because of selfishness on my part. Beating up on the Mets, Braves, Nationals and Marlins would be much easier than facing the Yankees and Red Sox.

[quote comment=”340839″]I can’t help but think, even after last year, that it would be a completely different ballgame if we were placed in the National League instead of the American League and the Brewers stayed in the AL. Of course, that’s all because of selfishness on my part. Beating up on the Mets, Braves, Nationals and Marlins would be much easier than facing the Yankees and Red Sox.[/quote]

Personally, I would have rather seem a National League Tampa Bay team also. It would have created a natural rivalry with the Marlins.

But no way was the A.L. going to allow the whole south eastern part of the country be controlled by the N.L.

A.L. teams closest to St. Petersburg:

Texas – 953 miles
Kansas City – 1,043 miles
Chicago – 1,014 miles
Detroit – 987 miles
Cleveland – 942 miles
Baltimore – 867 miles

No way was the AL going to give up that much territory. Even if Bill White would have let them move.

[quote comment=\”340822\”][quote comment=\”340820\”][quote comment=\”340819\”][quote comment=\”340815\”]Craig Morton in a Bears-style helmet and Princeton stripes.
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—Ricko[/quote]

Veeeerrry nice! Both teams – so simple yet so veeerrry nice…

What\’s with the caption – \”A nimrod quarterback, California\’s Craig Morton…\”[/quote]

I wondered about that. Turns out first definition is \”hunter\”. Second is \”fool\”. Who knew.

Does better explain existence of Nimrod, Minnesota, too.

—Ricko[/quote]

My sister always used the 2nd definition (sometimes at me). I thought another definition was a wanderer until I looked it up too. Hmmm.[/quote]

Of course, the second definition was in effect by the time Morton got to the Giants :) … And speaking of …

The ’75 jerseys/helmet would definitely be very cool as a throwback except for one small thing — they represent that one lousy season at Shea … well, it was a step up from the two miserable years of exile at the Yale Bowl (not to mention the first couple of seasons in the Meadowlands), but still, a loser team …

[quote comment=”340628″][quote comment=”340621″]I’m very disappointed in the Baylor uniform changes. They went from a classic, clean link to a Nike template, adding black trim, and switching to white shoes.[/quote]
Could not agree more. I am not a fan of Baylor, but I REALLY liked their old uni’s much, MUCH more. They looked classy and “clean” as you stated…now? They are Boise State without the BCS appearances[/quote]

Same here folks….here in Big 12 country outside of their QB the only other reason to watch Baylor was the classic uni. Loved the clean stripes, basic jersey, etc… Why the hell would you do this…..

[quote comment=”340625″][quote comment=”340614″]Those Mallards jerseys won’t be confused with anything else. That is for sure… except for maybe those new Seahawks jerseys that Yahoo was talking about. ;)

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“Quack To The Future”? Seriously? I guess with the Flames abandoning Moline, the IHL will fill the gap.

I don’t mind the alternates, but that other logo is bound to give little kids nightmares.[/quote]

As long as they don’t bring back the Sheriff jerseys …

[quote comment=”340842″][quote comment=”340716″][quote comment=”340689″][quote comment=”340659″]The 1975 look?
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Oooooh…I’d like that.[/quote]
I know I’m in the minority, but I love that logo. Distant Replays once had a hat with the italicized NY logo on it, but it was one of their hideous New Era fitted thug jobs with piping on every panel. Yecch.[/quote]

If you don’t like the “thug hats” then go on Ebay and buy one of those foam/mesh trucker hats all you hicks like so much.[/quote]
Wow — did I hit a sore spot, Shane?

For the record, I don’t like those foam trucker hats either. And I’m the farthest thing from “hick” that you’ll find on this board.

In early March, Football Fanatics pitched a St. Patrick’s special edition Giants cap, white with ‘ny’ in green, and I tried to buy four [4]. But Fanatics replied they were all out.

I can’t believe every last one was sold before St. Pat’s Day; has to be some left-overs somewhere. Anybody know where I can find them? Thanks.