[Editor’s Note: Our latest guest contributor is David Versel, shown at right, who’s going to share some excellent uni artwork from his adolescence. — PL]
By David Versel
My best friend Brad and I spent way too much time in 7th-9th grades (ca. 1985-1987) playing a bizarre one-on-one baseball game in my basement. We used Nok Hockey sticks as bats, plastic golf balls as baseballs, and a cricket-style linear basepath from one end of the basement to the other. If we wanted to steal a base or drop a bunt we would yell out “steal” or “bunt” as the pitch was delivered, roll an eight-sided die and determined the outcome based on a probability chart designed by Brad (he’s a financial IT consultant now, natch).
We each made up five “teams” to stage these games. We kept score using Xeroxed “Superstar Baseball” scoresheets. The players’ names were generated from a combination of our immature minds and the names of authors from my parents’ bookshelf located next to our playing field.
So”¦why I’m telling you all of this is that, even at 13, I was a Uni Watcher, only I didn’t know it yet, and was ashamed to talk about it. One rainy afternoon in 1986, I holed up in my room with a sheaf of notebook paper and a box of colored pencils and set about designing logos and uni sets for each of the 10 teams in our “league.” I hadn’t thought about these in years, but I recently found them while rummaging in the basement and felt compelled to share them.
Looking at them now, they’re not all bad, though I wish I had dropped in some striped socks. The stirrups are all immaculate, though. Here are the teams (with one caveat: I’m colorblind, so I take no responsibility for clashing color schemes):
Albany Ants (home+logo, away): Dig the 23-letter NOB (courtesy of the aforementioned immature minds).
Albuquerque Apples (home+logo, away): I like the home version [so do I — PL], but I whiffed on the font on the road team name.
Buffalo Chippers (home+logo, away): Obviously based on the A’s, down to the yellow sanitaries. I forgot the white shoes but kinda dig the light green road set.
Honolulu Hippies (home+logo, away): I have no idea what the logo means. Unfortunately, it looks like a gallows.
International Falls Igloos (home+logo, away): Those are some ginormous numbers, huh?
New Jersey Toxics (home+logo, away): A shameless ripoff of the 1986 Mets unis, though I do like the orange with blue trim on the home set.
Miami Paradise (home+logo, away): Brad named this team, not me. I never would have gone for the collective-singular team name, even at 13!
Providence Peanuts (home+logo, away): As with the light green above, I don’t mind the light red here.
San Luis Obispo Seagulls (home+logo, away): The homes aren’t bad, but the roads”¦meh.
Seattle Spooners (home+logo, away): My favorite of all. I’m very proud of this whole treatment, especially in the golden age of the elastic waistband!
Paul here. Big thanks to David for taking the time to scan his childhood artwork (and to his parents for not tossing everything in the trash years ago) — very cool.Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day for the shoe raffle sponsored by SoccerPro.com. Full details here.
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Here’s the transcript of a quick back-and-forth I had with Robert, which should give you an idea of what is and isn’t possible in terms of bobble customization:
Paul: The three prototypes — baseball, hockey, and football — are the only basic figures available, right? In other words, the hockey guy will always have the one dropped glove, the baseball guy will always be holding a ball in one hand, the football guy will always have bushy eyebrows, etc. Right?
Robert: Yes, I can put whatever head on whatever body, but the sculptures are what they are.
Paul: Oh, I hadn’t thought of that — you can mix and match the heads, so the football head could be on the baseball body, or whatever?
Robert: Sure. A baseball head on the football body could represent a football player on the sideline. I have the right to refuse, obviously, or if someone is trying to make it too complicated, you know, I won’t just do it. But they can ask.
Paul: And presumably the football guy could go no-facemask — yes?
Robert: Right. I could also do a double-bar facemask, but it would be like Otis Taylor’s old mask, without any vertical connectors. That little Larry Csonka loop is a possibility too. I almost put that on the Uni Watch football bobble.
Paul: No price differential between the three figures, right?
Robert: Right.
Paul: It occurs to me that people are gonna ask you to try to match a certain player’s face, or match their own face, or their kid’s face. But that’s not possible, because the prototype faces are the only faces we’ve got, right? Or maybe you could do a custom face for an added charge..?
Robert: If I can paint it, they can have it — within reason. I can change facial expression, like on the Big Ten bowling set — they are all the same face, essentially, just slightly different. I can change hair color, add a moustache, whatever, but the head is what it is, so I can’t get too specific, can’t change its “bone structure.” Like I gave your baseball figure dark hair because you have dark hair, and I should have given it brown eyes, but it does not look like you, it could never look like you, even if it had a goatee.
Paul: Alright, I get it, I’m insufficiently cherubic. I already knew that. Oh, and you could presumably make them black or Hispanic, right? Or is the hair too white boy for that?
Robert: Yes, I could do that, especially on the football, but it would still be kinda white boy on the hair. If there’s a demand for it, I want to make an afrocentric hatless cherub that could be applied to any body. Essentially I want to make a basketball body, which the hockey head could go on, and then the afrocentric basketball head could go on the hockey body for a black hockey player, etc. The basketball body will be soooo generic that I could apply it to any oddball sport, like a cyclist/soccer player. But all that is assuming there are orders for a generic-type body.
Paul: Ballpark turnaround time?
Robert: Depends on how many i get. Could be a week, could be a month. I guess I would say in four weeks guaranteed, but probably much sooner.
Paul: Any restriction on teams you’re willing to do, or is it wide open? What if someone says, “Make just like the St. Louis Cardinals, only make the undersleeves green” or “Make it a Mets jersey, but on the FOOTBALL player”? Are you willing to do that kind of weirdness, or do you want to institute a “must be based on real uniforms” rule? Scott and I deal with this kind of stuff all the time with the membership program — we only do designs based on real uniforms, just to keep things sane. But that doesn’t mean you have to do it that way.
Robert: I’m willing to consider anything, but I do reserve the right to refuse if it’s just too complicated, unless they want to pay a little more.
Paul: Hey, is this legal, trademark-wise? Just thought I’d ask.
Robert: According to my attorney, I have the legal right to do this. If I ever start making these in bulk with the intent to sell them before the individual commission of a patron, then I am crossing over the line and am no longer making art. But I have the right to artistic license and can sell my hand-sculpted forms, and my skills to paint by commission singularly unique art. Whoo-hoo!
Well OK then. If you want to get in on the ground floor of Robert’s new enterprise, here’s the deal:
1) If your design request is at all unusual, and/or if you have questions, and/or if you order will be shipped somewhere other than the USA, contact Robert so you can discuss your specific design request and/or find out the shipping charges to wherever you live.
2) Once you’ve settled the details of your order and the shipping costs, PayPal the proper amount to Robert at rpmarshallart at gmail dot com.
3) Done. Simple as that. Happy bobbling!
Uni Watch News Ticker: The Giants have a new final season logo for Giants Stadium, but it will not be worn as a patch. ”¦ Major find by Robert Eden: a set of 26 USFL caps! ”¦ John Condray DIY’d himself a 1937 St. Louis Browns jersey. Additional photos here. ”¦ Jason Varitiek wears his catching helmet with the brim facing backwards, natch. But the sun was in his eyes when he was warming up Jon Lester in the bullpen prior to a recent game in Oakland, so he went front-brimmed for that warm-up session. Note the paddle-style glove, too (nice work by Scott Dunham). ”¦ What’s that little sign on this Long Island Railroad ticketing machine at the Westbury station? Turns out the LIRR is calling it Shea (big thanks to Mike Cesarano). ”¦ Tom Wilmowski spotted this guy at Tuesday night’s Cards/Phils game. “I don’t know what you would even call this,” he says. “JMNOB (Jedi master name on back)?” ”¦ How awesome is this?! Details here (kudos to Jim Ransdell, whose Sports Design Blog is fast becoming required reading). ”¦ A world without Zambonis and Olympias? Unthinkable, but possible (with thanks to John Muir). ”¦ Someone on the Creamer boards posted pics of an old blanket with a two-star NFL shield — never seen that before. The individual team logos were shield-based as well. ”¦ Manny Pacquiao: unbeatable in the ring but powerless against the Wilburthrax! ”¦ Yesterday’s Ticker included a link to this poster showing a black Saints helmet, which prompted Thomas Turner to show me his collection of 1969 Rawlings helmets. ”¦ Brilliant promotion by the Peoria Chiefs, who are inviting potential sponsors to be Douchebag for a Day (with thanks to Josh Petty). ”¦ Whoa — there’s a lot to like in Lawrence High’s baseball uni set. Additional pics here (with thanks to Jacob Kucza). ”¦ Here’s the Babe with buttons, and everyone else with zippers (nice find by Kendall Salter). ”¦ Check out this Jay Cutler photo gallery. What with the bottom stripe on his sleves? Is that even a three-stripe sleeve, or is he wearing a two-stripe sleeve plus a single-stripe undershirt? Very odd (good spot by Brandon Pratt). ”¦ A few days ago I asked why the Syracuse Chiefs were wearing a memorial patch. Jeff Landset reports that it’s for Hy Miller, a former board of directors member who recently passed away. ”¦ I guess Tom Brady’s knee is feeling a bit better. That sound you just heard was Bob Kraft being electro-shocked back to life (with thanks to Joe DeAngelis). ”¦ Disturbing news at Shea, where Gary Sheffield is using pine tar to keep his pant cuffs stuck to his shoes. ”¦ No photo, but Todd Davis says the W in Dexter Fowler’s NOB is actually an upside-down M. ”¦ The Rangers’ two-tone helmet: the thing that wouldn’t die (with thanks to Chris Fernandez). ”¦ Can’t recall if I linked to this last summer, but here’s a video of Manny Parra showing how he cuffs his pants high (with thanks to Harry Bergmann). ”¦ New home kit for Chelsea, with what Alex Ertaud describes as “this weird zipper thing in the front, not to mention some weird robot-esque chest panels.” ”¦ The Canadian Parliament has addressed the highly pressing issue of allowing seal skin to be used on Olympic uniforms. ”¦ In a vaguely related item, the Oklahoma legislature has addressed the highly pressing issue of secession, which of course would mean the Sooners and Cowboys would no longer qualify for any national championships, but they wouldn’t wanna take part in those commie tournaments anyway. ”¦ This guy has some really cool stuff for sale, including this sticker, this button, and this magnet (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). ”¦ Hey, who was that at last night’s Mets/Phils game? ”¦ Philly’s new MLS team will supposedly be called the Union (with thanks to Kieran Kelly).
I have to agree, the Albuquerque Apples home unis are excellent
1. Those High School baseball unis are a thing of beauty, although I’m not a fan of the white cool-flos.
2. Citi-Field is wonderful. Even sitting in the uppermost section didn’t dampen the experience.
I have lived 4o minutes north of Shea/Citi all of my life but had only previously went to one Mets game back in 1983.
Perusing this site has reminded me that there is another major league ball club within close range, and what an experience!
It also helped that I had the opportunity to attend with one of New York’s biggest Mets fans, whose baseball know-how is rivaled only by his grasp of sarcasm, mustard and meteorology, our own LI Phil.
The three other finalists for Philly’s MLS team name were supposedly “A.C. Philadelphia”, “Philadelphia F.C.”, and “Philadelphia City.” They did a nice job with the snake logo, the “Join or Die” motto, and especially with choosing the colors of their main fan group, the Sons of Ben (who formed long before Philly even got the MLS team).
I don’t know which I liked better, the Buffalo Chips or the Buffalo Hot Wings (from a previous article on the same subject). Honolulu Hippies….hmmm, rhymes, but would be a lot better if it was the S.F. Giants new names. I would assume MLB wouldn’t approve that name change….just think of all the stoner jokes that could be made about the team! “Well, looks like (insert players name) should have no trouble catching that fly ball for the last out. Wait a minute, he seems confused by something in the sky! The balls on the ground and he seems oblivious to what’s going on around him! Now he’s laying down on the ground and is just staring up at the sky!” Post game interview: “Well, what happened there in the bottom of the eighth when you laid down in the outfield and allowed that inside the park home run?” Player: “Man…..there was just…like…these awesome shapes in the cloud…like, totally far out stuff, man….I just had to take it all in man. Baseball will be always be there for me man, but clouds like that come along once in a ….wait, what was I saying?”
I’m going to have to check out the Mets’ new park. I think I might like it.
I am a Yankee partial-season ticket holder and hate oozes out of every pore when I enter that mall-esque monstrosity of a “ballpark.” Something tells me that the Mets understated their park a lot more and that baseball is probably the main attraction, which it most decidedly is not in the Bronx.
I didn’t know the Penguins’ penguin had a name. You could do worse than “Slapshot Pete.” Like, for instance, “Sparky the Dragon.”
I myself like the San Obispo roads. A dull-blue color like that is almost unheard of in MLB (link were close, maybe?), but would totally work.
1) cool stuff, david!
2)
citishea rocks…can’t wait to go there, with better seats, on a sunny summer day2a) seats
2b) cy johan
2c) big apple
3) honolulu hippies is alliteration, not rhyme ;)
4) matt b — definitely check out shea
[quote comment=”328132″]I’m going to have to check out the Mets’ new park. I think I might like it.
I am a Yankee partial-season ticket holder and hate oozes out of every pore when I enter that mall-esque monstrosity of a “ballpark.” Something tells me that the Mets understated their park a lot more and that baseball is probably the main attraction, which it most decidedly is not in the Bronx.
I didn’t know the Penguins’ penguin had a name. You could do worse than “Slapshot Pete.” Like, for instance, “Sparky the Dragon.”[/quote]
I have to admit, I can’t wait to see a game at Yankee Stadium.
On the way to “Shea”, I passed by YS yesterday and was amazed at how grandiose it is.
From a New Yorkers’ perspective, it seems as if the Mets organization is much more laid back and concerned with baseball and fun.
The Yankees mystique pervades everything involving the team, especially their on-filed play, which seem to have buckled under the enormous pressure over the past seven years.
Another Citi-Field bonus was all of the incredible Mets gear that was worn by the fans…I spotted one attractive road gray jersey with the cursive New York that was gorgeous…the blonde woman wearing it modeled it very well.
[quote comment=”328134″]1) cool stuff, david!
2)
citishea rocks…can’t wait to go there, with better seats, on a sunny summer day2a) link
2b) link
2c) link
3) honolulu hippies is alliteration, not rhyme ;)
4) matt b — definitely check out shea[/quote]
Alliteration, yes, that’s it! Thank you!
I automatically clicked on the link about Gary Sheffield and his pine tar pants. My brain finally clicked in and said, “What the fuck are you doing?” One of the rare times I actually listened to my brain.
I think those Lawrence High baseball unis are a perfect example of trying too hard. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen something that’s trying so hard to look old (sorry, classic) look so brand-new.
Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.
I finally get it. If people are sleepless in Seattle, they can be Spooners!
can’t find the appropriate photographic evidence, but it was previously noted in the ticker that Manny Parra’s 0-fer start was the result of his switch to long pants this season. Last night…high cuffs return for Parra, and the Crew spots him 9 runs in the first two innings. Parra’s first win of the season. Big coincidence or just a coincidence?
Dave here (today’s guest host). Glad to see all of this on the web…thanks to Paul for publishing my teenage fetish!
If Citi Bank is all but forced to pull their sponsorship (much like Ameriquest in Arlington) from the new Mets ballpark, and Mr. Lukas et. al get there way with the stadium’s name, would it be a Shea d’etat?
After the most recent purchaser of stadium naming rights (Land Shark), I am wondering if in Miami they will be making “I’m Calling it Joe Robbie” t-shirts? At least we will never have Uni Watch presented by AT&T.
[quote comment=”328143″]If Citi Bank is all but forced to pull their sponsorship (much like Ameriquest in Arlington) from the new Mets ballpark, and Mr. Lukas et. al get there way with the stadium’s name, would it be a Shea d’etat?
After the most recent purchaser of stadium naming rights (Land Shark), I am wondering if in Miami they will be making “I’m Calling it Joe Robbie” t-shirts? At least we will never have Uni Watch presented by AT&T.[/quote]
UniWatch, presented by Nike
You know, the swoosh would go perfectly right next to the stirrup on the site’s logo. I think he should do it..
Cutler’s jersey treatment looks similar to what Rex Grossman had in Chicago as well.
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Some of the names on the scorecard were intriguing; Auschwitz,Tattle…thingy, Asimov link. And, on the Miami Paradise…”Titley” link
ahhhh adolescent humor. Good stuff!
[quote comment=”328144″][quote comment=”328143″]If Citi Bank is all but forced to pull their sponsorship (much like Ameriquest in Arlington) from the new Mets ballpark, and Mr. Lukas et. al get there way with the stadium’s name, would it be a Shea d’etat?
After the most recent purchaser of stadium naming rights (Land Shark), I am wondering if in Miami they will be making “I’m Calling it Joe Robbie” t-shirts? At least we will never have Uni Watch presented by AT&T.[/quote]
UniWatch, presented by Nike
You know, the swoosh would go perfectly right next to the stirrup on the site’s logo. I think he should do it..[/quote]
It’s not out of the realm of possibility. All of the attendants and ushers at “Shea” wear golf shirts and jackets made by Nike.
And Dave, nice stuff!
Seems like the LIRR is up to its penny pinching days still…cant they fix their POS computer systems for the tickets?
The Babe pix from his days as a coach in Brooklyn are classic…and i bet the reason he was in buttons while everyone else was in zippers, was Omar the tent maker couldnt find a zipper big enough for the Babe’s jersey
I’m liking the Philadelphia Union logo set and colors. I was hoping they’d go with the pale blue and yellow-gold, and muting it to a darker blue and Vegas gold is a pretty nice compromise (not to mention, incredibly similar to George Washington University’s colors, which matters only to me, since I went there for grad school.) I’m not much of a soccer fan, but I might have to take in a game once the team’s found their footing.
Now, if only they could get the damned adidas logo off the scarf…
[quote comment=”328135″]
I have to admit, I can’t wait to see a game at Yankee Stadium.[/quote]
Powers…I think you (and everyone in the area) SHOULD check out the new Yankee Stadium but if you’re old-school or a purist like a lot of Uni Watchers, you’re going to find a lot to dislike. After four games there I can sum it up best by saying that the actual baseball game (the action on the field) has become secondary and incidental to the action in the rest of the stadium.
Part of what made the old Stadium so wonderful was its decrepitude. There was nothing to do BUT watch the game, which facilitated old-school purist activities I love, like keeping score and talking to other fans sitting with you…it built a BASEBALL community. Now it’s all steak sandwiches and clean bathrooms, and I despise it. There’s no mystique left anymore, it was all scrubbed clean and encased in concrete.
And as for the ladies. Used to be on a Friday night in the summer, the upper deck was a veritable paradise…a bounteous bevy of beauties. Now the upper deck is smaller and it seems that the eye candy may have migrated over to Shea.
Perhaps as the weather gets warmer, the situation will improve. I still remember the free spirit who thought that the sixth inning of a Friday night game against the A’s was a fine time to remove her top.
[quote comment=”328144″][quote comment=”328143″]If Citi Bank is all but forced to pull their sponsorship (much like Ameriquest in Arlington) from the new Mets ballpark, and Mr. Lukas et. al get there way with the stadium’s name, would it be a Shea d’etat?
After the most recent purchaser of stadium naming rights (Land Shark), I am wondering if in Miami they will be making “I’m Calling it Joe Robbie” t-shirts? At least we will never have Uni Watch presented by AT&T.[/quote]
UniWatch, presented by Nike
You know, the swoosh would go perfectly right next to the stirrup on the site’s logo. I think he should do it..[/quote]
Funny you should mention that.
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RE: Boras and neutral site for World Series.
I think that is EXACTLY what MLB is maneuvering itself into, by design. Pushing the season deeper into November is all about that. They’re HOPING weather experiences take things to the point where they can say, “Well, guess we have no choice but to go to a neutral site for W-S.”
MLB looks at the Super Bowl and wants its premier event, like the Super Bowl, to be a huge deal for all its corporate sponsors, big wigs and other fat cats.
In some boardroom, MLB has envisioned a sort of baseball Mardi Gras of a week or more rotating among places like Miami, L.A, Houston, Phoenix (or cities with domes)…perhaps even New Orleans itself as an ultimate neutral site. MLB wants that kind of sustained orgy of attention, spending and advertising revenue smack in the middle of the NFL season.
I may not be around to see it, but I’ll bet within a decade, perhaps a bit more, that’s the way it is.
Go ahead, call me crazy. Or trust the instincts of someone who’s been watching this shit–inside and out as fan, journalist and PR person–for 55 years now.
–Ricko
I agree, though depressingly. They (owners/management)are soooooo wrecking the loyalty between fans and the teams/history/players/tradition that I really believe that we will live to see it – the current system of pro sports – implode.
I envision a day when the PSL’s and the Neutral field championships and the free agency mercenaries and the bling and the taking games off of free TV (Oh yeah, just wait)and the private acess roads to and from stadiums (more of that to come after Foxboro)will lead to many fans in the stands now to simply drift away.
It will happen slowly, but it will happen. And Joe Six Pack – priced out all too long ago – will be watching the future of free TV while the OKC Thunder play the Sac. Kings, or the Nats play the next worse team, and he won’t be there to save them.
It’s never just the one thing, it’s the Dismal Tide.
[quote comment=”328150″]There was nothing to do BUT watch the game, which facilitated old-school purist activities I love, like keeping score and talking to other fans sitting with you…it built a BASEBALL community. … I still remember the free spirit who thought that the sixth inning of a Friday night game against the A’s was a fine time to remove her top.[/quote]
Interesting notion of “purist baseball community” you folks had there.
NEUTRAL SITE BASEBALL …….
I too can see it coming – though I believe it not to be a good thing.
I am in New Orleans, and to me the 1977/1978 Super Bowl (Broncos vs Cowboys)was the end on the Super Bowl being about the teams and their fans and instead began the dismal trend of the game becoming a Disneyland-type experience for every million dollar lawyer, doctor and Hollywood type and their spoiled kids. The teams and their loyal fans are ignored, and are too often on the outside looking in. There are some exceptions, like the Green Bay fans clogging the town en mass with tickets or without, or to a lesser extent the Bears fans in 1986. True, raw enthusiasm, as authentic as it comes.
Nothing, however, compares to the 1975 Super Bowl where fans of both teams, the Steelers and the Vikings, were truly fans of their teams and came to N.O. by the tens of thousands – hungry for a breakthrough after years of frustration. I watched true, great fans of both teams rewarded for great seasons after years of following their teams – both sincerely hungering to finally climb to the top of the NFL mountain.
I watched a Steelers fan pay for the hotel bill of his entire floor when he checked out of his hotel the day after the Steelers won their first title. His sincerity as the hotel clerk tried to talk him out of it moves me to this day. As a Steelers fan, he had climbed the mountain, and was able to see it with his own eyes.
Today, that guy gets to watch it on TV, or go broke out-bidding a millionaire doctor from somewhere unconnected to the teams for the ticket.
Pathetic.
By 1977 it was all about the money, and the non-team fans pouring in, and every N.O. Super Bowl since has gotten more and more eliteist and more prima donna disgusting.
Entertainment Tonight on stilts.
Oh yeah, the neutral site Baseball week is coming.
Speaking of the Rawlings NFL youth helmets:
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I remember, as a kid, when I got the Seahawks helmet, from the Sears catalog, I wasn’t impressed. The decal was in three parts and wrapped all the way around, instead of divided in two along the center ridge like the pros wore. I swore, at that moment, that one day I would own the real thing, or, two. ;o)
Here’s one of those youth lids for sale right now:
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See what I mean about wrapping all the way around:
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The decal was a tad too small as well and thus was out of proportion with the rest of the helmet. Which sort of gave it this Beluga Whale look:
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[quote comment=”328134″]1) cool stuff, david!
2)
citishea rocks…can’t wait to go there, with better seats, on a sunny summer day2a) link
2b) link
2c) link
3) honolulu hippies is alliteration, not rhyme ;)
4) matt b — definitely check out shea[/quote]
just tell me, from the picture posted, that matt walked up to the food stand… and after reading “burgers, beer, hot dogs, shakes, soda, burgers, frozen custard, hot dogs, fries” said, “yeah, sounds good, i’ll have that please!”
haha
glad you guys had a great time! nice DIY sweater matt!
[quote comment=”328139″]Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.[/quote]
It looks like they’re trying to do the same thing as the Redskins; use the sleeve elastic to attempt to replicate striping that existed when sleeves existed.
[quote]it’s all steak sandwiches and clean bathrooms, and I despise it[/quote]
yeah…those clean bathrooms are such a bitch
[quote]it seems that the eye candy may have migrated over to Shea.[/quote]
i can assure you that was not the case, tho young matt did spot a rather attractive tweener sporting the 1987 roadie…he was, literally, shocked when i told him “that’s the ’87 away and i hate it”…but then, i doubt very much he was staring at the wordmark
1. “…John Condray DIY’d himself a 1937 St. Louis Browns jersey. Additional photos here. …”
Wow. Amazing. Congratulations. About that sleeve patch: who is the mounted figure? Is that Louis Le Bon, aka Saint Louis, France’s sole conspicuously virtuous monarch? And if not, who?
2. “…Yesterday’s Ticker included a link to this poster showing a black Saints helmet, which prompted Thomas Turner to show me his collection of 1969 Rawlings helmets. … ”
Wow squared.
Just ordered a Robert Bobble. Can’t hardly wait.
[quote comment=”328150″][quote comment=”328135″]
I have to admit, I can’t wait to see a game at Yankee Stadium.[/quote]
Powers…I think you (and everyone in the area) SHOULD check out the new Yankee Stadium but if you’re old-school or a purist like a lot of Uni Watchers, you’re going to find a lot to dislike. After four games there I can sum it up best by saying that the actual baseball game (the action on the field) has become secondary and incidental to the action in the rest of the stadium.
Part of what made the old Stadium so wonderful was its decrepitude. There was nothing to do BUT watch the game, which facilitated old-school purist activities I love, like keeping score and talking to other fans sitting with you…it built a BASEBALL community. Now it’s all steak sandwiches and clean bathrooms, and I despise it. There’s no mystique left anymore, it was all scrubbed clean and encased in concrete.
And as for the ladies. Used to be on a Friday night in the summer, the upper deck was a veritable paradise…a bounteous bevy of beauties. Now the upper deck is smaller and it seems that the eye candy may have migrated over to Shea.
Perhaps as the weather gets warmer, the situation will improve. I still remember the free spirit who thought that the sixth inning of a Friday night game against the A’s was a fine time to remove her top.[/quote]
Thats disappointing to hear. I’m heading up from Houston to catch my O’s play there in a couple of weeks. It’ll complete a YS trifecta of sorts for me, having seen games at the ‘old’ Stadium in the 50s and 60s, the refurbished one and now the new one.
From the sounds of it I’m glad I got to take my kids there a couple of summers ago, but I’m going with an open mind. Can you still see the subway go by?
And re: the link high school pics. All the baseline coaches I’ve seen at hs games this year are wearing helmets. Apparently that is not the case everywhere.
[quote comment=”328156″][quote comment=”328134″]1) cool stuff, david!
2)
citishea rocks…can’t wait to go there, with better seats, on a sunny summer day2a) link
2b) link
2c) link
3) honolulu hippies is alliteration, not rhyme ;)
4) matt b — definitely check out shea[/quote]
just tell me, from the picture posted, that matt walked up to the food stand… and after reading “burgers, beer, hot dogs, shakes, soda, burgers, frozen custard, hot dogs, fries” said, “yeah, sounds good, i’ll have that please!”
haha
glad you guys had a great time! nice DIY sweater matt![/quote]
Actually, I didn’t go NEAR that place…the lines were at least 50 deep.
Around the fourth inning, my cousin and I, not Phil BTW, went and got a beer, pretzel and a grilled sausage.
There is NO shortage of vendors within the building, which is both a plus and a minus.
As for the “talent”, there were many a lady easy on the eyes!
Baseball purists…Love the game…a 1-0, 2-hit gem would seem boring to many ala a soccer match, however the situations that both Santana and Park wriggled out of, moreso with Santana was a purists dream!
I almost forgot to mention the best aspect of last night:
link
Free Visors
[quote comment=”328157″][quote comment=”328139″]Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.[/quote]
It looks like they’re trying to do the same thing as the Redskins; use the sleeve elastic to attempt to replicate striping that existed when sleeves existed.[/quote]
Look closely. It’s two garments, one under the shoulder pads, one over them. The seams of one align with, or relate to, musculature, the seams of the other with the pads. The “under” shirt has a knit cuff sleeve end with a single tri-stripe and some kind of sleeve logo.
—Ricko
There’s a running discussion about this on the Red Sox Wikipedia page: Does anyone know if the Sox have officially decided to scrap the blue socks?
I know Paul posted about this topic and I saw a Globe article about a week ago, but last I checked the team was still saying that they were planning to use the red and blue socks interchangeably on the road. If anyone has any info it’d be greatly appreciated.
[quote comment=”328160″]
From the sounds of it I’m glad I got to take my kids there a couple of summers ago, but I’m going with an open mind. Can you still see the subway go by?[/quote]
Sure can, if you’re not sitting in the outfield. They left the same kind of gap in right field. My seats are high upper deck, halfway between home and third, and in fact I can see quite a bit of the northbound subway, not just through the gap in right.
Your kids will love it. Make sure you visit the Yankee museum which is actually quite interesting. It’s on the Main level, I think.
Manny Parra wore high socks last night for the first time this season. Can you argue the results?
oh! and by the way… slapshot pete?!?! very, very interesting… i guess our skating penguin has a name!
[quote comment=”328164″][quote comment=”328157″][quote comment=”328139″]Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.[/quote]
It looks like they’re trying to do the same thing as the Redskins; use the sleeve elastic to attempt to replicate striping that existed when sleeves existed.[/quote]
Look closely. It’s two garments, one under the shoulder pads, one over them. The seams of one align with, or relate to, musculature, the seams of the other with the pads. The “under” shirt has a knit cuff sleeve end with a single tri-stripe and some kind of sleeve logo.
—Ricko[/quote]
it is not 2 garments, I have a bears authentic jersey with the elastic sleeves. For some reason they put the bottom sleeve stripe on the elastic, definitely doesn’t look good. I’m not a big fan of QBs wearing the elastic sleeves anyway.
[quote comment=”328163″]I almost forgot to mention the best aspect of last night:
linkFree Visors
leaving for 3 full innings to search for a oakland a’s road cap[/quote]
(fixed)
but yes, it was
douchebag headwearvisor night…if you look closely at the top of the escalator, you can find the garbage can where matt inadvertently threw out his game ticket…he’s lucky i don’t have a photo of him digging thru the garbage looking for it(you know i love ya matt)
[quote comment=”328167″]Manny Parra wore high socks last night for the first time this season. Can you argue the results?[/quote]
The only questions are why he went away from them in the first place, and why it took him four losses before pulling his damn pants back up. :D
Phil…you love that “strike through” coding, don’t you? You seem to use it about five times every day.
[quote comment=”328159″]1. “…John Condray DIY’d himself a 1937 St. Louis Browns jersey. Additional photos here. …”
Wow. Amazing. Congratulations. About that sleeve patch: who is the mounted figure? Is that Louis Le Bon, aka Saint Louis, France’s sole conspicuously virtuous monarch? And if not, who?
[/quote]
That’s the Browns’ link, featuring the link statue.
The WPS team link use a feminine version of the statue in link.
[quote comment=”328169″][quote comment=”328164″][quote comment=”328157″][quote comment=”328139″]Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.[/quote]
It looks like they’re trying to do the same thing as the Redskins; use the sleeve elastic to attempt to replicate striping that existed when sleeves existed.[/quote]
Look closely. It’s two garments, one under the shoulder pads, one over them. The seams of one align with, or relate to, musculature, the seams of the other with the pads. The “under” shirt has a knit cuff sleeve end with a single tri-stripe and some kind of sleeve logo.
—Ricko[/quote]
it is not 2 garments, I have a bears authentic jersey with the elastic sleeves. For some reason they put the bottom sleeve stripe on the elastic, definitely doesn’t look good. I’m not a big fan of QBs wearing the elastic sleeves anyway.[/quote]
Hard to argue with that. But why (and what is?) the logo between the lowest stripe and the top two on the right arm only? “GSH” on the left, of course.
[quote comment=”328170″]but yes, it was link[/quote]
i had to check the comments just to see if it was indeed douchebag night at shea. it’s bad enough you got a handful of ‘bags wearing the visor over the cap, but the DB with the reversed cap/visor combo (under “blue smoke” sign) takes the cake.
i don’t care how bright the sun is, if i’m already wearing a hat, i’m sure as hell gonna shove the visor in my pocket. it’d be like going to free shorts night (hey, it could happen) and pulling them on over your jeans.
[quote comment=”328169″][quote comment=”328164″][quote comment=”328157″][quote comment=”328139″]Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.[/quote]
It looks like they’re trying to do the same thing as the Redskins; use the sleeve elastic to attempt to replicate striping that existed when sleeves existed.[/quote]
Look closely. It’s two garments, one under the shoulder pads, one over them. The seams of one align with, or relate to, musculature, the seams of the other with the pads. The “under” shirt has a knit cuff sleeve end with a single tri-stripe and some kind of sleeve logo.
—Ricko[/quote]
it is not 2 garments, I have a bears authentic jersey with the elastic sleeves. For some reason they put the bottom sleeve stripe on the elastic, definitely doesn’t look good. I’m not a big fan of QBs wearing the elastic sleeves anyway.[/quote]
It is one garmet, and this has been going on for at least five years, maybe more.
The Bears gamers and their “authentic” store-sold jerseys both have the third, lower stripe as a part of the elastic cuff, with an inconsistent spacing separation between the 1-2 stripes and the 2-3 stripes. it really looks like crap but it is what it is.
[quote comment=”328174″][quote comment=”328169″][quote comment=”328164″][quote comment=”328157″][quote comment=”328139″]Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.[/quote]
It looks like they’re trying to do the same thing as the Redskins; use the sleeve elastic to attempt to replicate striping that existed when sleeves existed.[/quote]
Look closely. It’s two garments, one under the shoulder pads, one over them. The seams of one align with, or relate to, musculature, the seams of the other with the pads. The “under” shirt has a knit cuff sleeve end with a single tri-stripe and some kind of sleeve logo.
—Ricko[/quote]
it is not 2 garments, I have a bears authentic jersey with the elastic sleeves. For some reason they put the bottom sleeve stripe on the elastic, definitely doesn’t look good. I’m not a big fan of QBs wearing the elastic sleeves anyway.[/quote]
Hard to argue with that. But why (and what is?) the logo between the lowest stripe and the top two on the right arm only? “GSH” on the left, of course.[/quote]
There is no logo on the right sleeve, where do you see that? I can’t see anything in those Cutler photos.
I don’t get the change in unis for Chelsea. Their current uni features classic collars and a nice gold piping on the cuffs and collars on the shortsleeve jersey. Now they’re doing this lame robotic thing. That looks like something lame that Nike would go for, not Adidas.
Putrid change, for sure.
[quote comment=”328177″][quote comment=”328174″][quote comment=”328169″][quote comment=”328164″][quote comment=”328157″][quote comment=”328139″]Looks like Cutler’s sleeve has a funky extra-long elastic cuff. The first two stripes on that jersey are screened on, but the third is knit into the fabric of the elastic, creating that undershirt-sleeve sticking out effect.[/quote]
It looks like they’re trying to do the same thing as the Redskins; use the sleeve elastic to attempt to replicate striping that existed when sleeves existed.[/quote]
Look closely. It’s two garments, one under the shoulder pads, one over them. The seams of one align with, or relate to, musculature, the seams of the other with the pads. The “under” shirt has a knit cuff sleeve end with a single tri-stripe and some kind of sleeve logo.
—Ricko[/quote]
it is not 2 garments, I have a bears authentic jersey with the elastic sleeves. For some reason they put the bottom sleeve stripe on the elastic, definitely doesn’t look good. I’m not a big fan of QBs wearing the elastic sleeves anyway.[/quote]
Hard to argue with that. But why (and what is?) the logo between the lowest stripe and the top two on the right arm only? “GSH” on the left, of course.[/quote]
There is no logo on the right sleeve, where do you see that? I can’t see anything in those Cutler photos.[/quote]
Second photo in gallery, as he’s about to release the ball. There’s something above the second stripe and the entire thing doesn’t appear to be showing.
this one..
link
[quote comment=”328135″][quote comment=”328132″]I’m going to have to check out the Mets’ new park. I think I might like it.
I am a Yankee partial-season ticket holder and hate oozes out of every pore when I enter that mall-esque monstrosity of a “ballpark.” Something tells me that the Mets understated their park a lot more and that baseball is probably the main attraction, which it most decidedly is not in the Bronx.
I didn’t know the Penguins’ penguin had a name. You could do worse than “Slapshot Pete.” Like, for instance, “Sparky the Dragon.”[/quote]
I have to admit, I can’t wait to see a game at Yankee Stadium.
On the way to “Shea”, I passed by YS yesterday and was amazed at how grandiose it is.
From a New Yorkers’ perspective, it seems as if the Mets organization is much more laid back and concerned with baseball and fun.
The Yankees mystique pervades everything involving the team, especially their on-filed play, which seem to have buckled under the enormous pressure over the past seven years.
Another Citi-Field bonus was all of the incredible Mets gear that was worn by the fans…I spotted one attractive road gray jersey with the cursive New York that was gorgeous…the blonde woman wearing it modeled it very well.[/quote]
Could not agree more Powers. I don’t see how a Yankee team could possibly play well knowing that anything less then a World Championship would be considered failure. I like the Mets’ more relaxed attitude, I just can’t get excited about them. I’m a Yankee fan dammit, nothing I can do about it.
ah, wait, it’s the stripe all wrinkled.
Sorry, didn’t have time to really scope it out (at work) til just now.
That IS a weird frickin’ jersey.
Very exciting about the bobbleheads being available. At some point, I’ll be putting a request for a hockey figure (maybe old-school, link?). Can’t wait!
And as a life-long doodler, it’s nice to see I wasn’t the only one who made up my own teams, though I could never compete with that statistical probability bunt chart.
[quote comment=”328175″][quote comment=”328170″]but yes, it was link[/quote]
i had to check the comments just to see if it was indeed douchebag night at shea. it’s bad enough you got a handful of ‘bags wearing the visor over the cap, but the DB with the reversed cap/visor combo (under “blue smoke” sign) takes the cake.
i don’t care how bright the sun is, if i’m already wearing a hat, i’m sure as hell gonna shove the visor in my pocket. it’d be like going to free shorts night (hey, it could happen) and pulling them on over your jeans.[/quote]
screw that… didn’t realize when i went to opening day this year at PNC park that they were giving away hats. i just thew it on top of mine. call me a DB, but i didn’t have an awkward hat in my pocket all day. haha. it’s just for one game, no biggie. not like people are now going to wear their visors and hats like that until the end of time…
[quote comment=”328179″]
Second photo in gallery, as he’s about to release the ball. There’s something above the second stripe and the entire thing doesn’t appear to be showing.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure it’s just the double stripe coming together (almost).
link
[quote comment=”328182″]ah, wait, it’s the stripe all wrinkled.
Sorry, didn’t have time to really scope it out (at work) til just now.
That IS a weird frickin’ jersey.[/quote]
Agreed… they need to do something about the spacing of those stripes on the elastic sleeve jerseys.
in regards to the Jay Cutler Jersey, that is actually a quaterback cut jersey. It is like that so whenever he throws his shoulder pads stay in place and dont get in the way of his throwing motion. If you look at your skill guy uniforms compared to your big guy uniforms you will notice that the jerseys are cut a different way.
I’m listening to a Bronx community leader on the radio right now, and she just said, proudly, “As you know, it’s not a stadium, it’s a mall.”
Nuff said.
[quote comment=”328188″]I’m listening to a Bronx community leader on the radio right now, and she just said, proudly, “As you know, it’s not a stadium, it’s a mall.”
Nuff said.[/quote]
*facepalm*
Boy, Paul, those Bronx community leaders sure drank that Kool-Aid pretty fast. They put up quite a hue and cry when the Yankees announced the new stadium, and now that it’s built, all of a sudden it’s sparkles and unicorns.
And although the community leader was right in calling it a mall instead of a stadium, she should have been savvy enough to figure out that it’s not her neighbors in Mott Haven or Morrisania shopping there.
[quote comment=”328184″][quote comment=”328175″][quote comment=”328170″]but yes, it was link[/quote]
i had to check the comments just to see if it was indeed douchebag night at shea. it’s bad enough you got a handful of ‘bags wearing the visor over the cap, but the DB with the reversed cap/visor combo (under “blue smoke” sign) takes the cake.
i don’t care how bright the sun is, if i’m already wearing a hat, i’m sure as hell gonna shove the visor in my pocket. it’d be like going to free shorts night (hey, it could happen) and pulling them on over your jeans.[/quote]
screw that… didn’t realize when i went to opening day this year at PNC park that they were giving away hats. i just thew it on top of mine. call me a DB, but i didn’t have an awkward hat in my pocket all day. haha. it’s just for one game, no biggie. not like people are now going to wear their visors and hats like that until the end of time…[/quote]
i guess i should have made it clearer that my rant was more directed at visor guy than regular guy. don’t know why, but the visor thing makes me cringe like paul at a link. as for the doubling-up thing… hell, if i got a freebie at a game, i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am. yeeehaawwww!!!
[quote comment=”328190″][quote comment=”328184″][quote comment=”328175″][quote comment=”328170″]but yes, it was link[/quote]
i had to check the comments just to see if it was indeed douchebag night at shea. it’s bad enough you got a handful of ‘bags wearing the visor over the cap, but the DB with the reversed cap/visor combo (under “blue smoke” sign) takes the cake.
i don’t care how bright the sun is, if i’m already wearing a hat, i’m sure as hell gonna shove the visor in my pocket. it’d be like going to free shorts night (hey, it could happen) and pulling them on over your jeans.[/quote]
screw that… didn’t realize when i went to opening day this year at PNC park that they were giving away hats. i just thew it on top of mine. call me a DB, but i didn’t have an awkward hat in my pocket all day. haha. it’s just for one game, no biggie. not like people are now going to wear their visors and hats like that until the end of time…[/quote]
i guess i should have made it clearer that my rant was more directed at visor guy than regular guy. don’t know why, but the visor thing makes me cringe like paul at a link. as for the doubling-up thing… hell, if i got a freebie at a game, i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am. yeeehaawwww!!![/quote]
let’s try that again…
“i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am.”
Some one is sure to know what the patch on the link is for?
Dressed to the nines shows it but doesn’t say link.
[quote comment=”328192″]Some one is sure to know what the patch on the link is for?
Dressed to the nines shows it but doesn’t say link.[/quote]
1939 World’s Fair. All three NYC teams wore this patch in 1938.
I think the ultimate DBery was those who would wear their visors backwards and upside down. I think that was, as the kids say, tight for about 2 minutes at the start of the century.
[quote comment=”328192″]Some one is sure to know what the patch on the link is for?
Dressed to the nines shows it but doesn’t say link.[/quote]
It’s for the link
link
Sorry, should be “worn by all New York teams in 1938.”
link
Help me out here.
The Dodgers are kicking ass and taking names right now.
They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction.
Yet I don’t recall a national telecast of any of their games as yet this season.
Have the networks just sawed off the country at about the Mississippi and let everything west of there cease to exist?
I mean, do they so desperately NOT want a western team on top that they figure they’ll just ignore it until it goes away?
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328195″][quote comment=”328192″]Some one is sure to know what the patch on the link is for?
Dressed to the nines shows it but doesn’t say link.[/quote]
It’s for the link
link
I ordered one off of Ebay for my Dodgers DIY!
i did want to clarify one additional point about the visor-wearing crowd…they could be broken down into five different levels of douchebaggery.
1. dude wears free visor, but insists on flatbrimming it…only, you cant flatbrim a visor
2. & 5. stardard douchebag treatment…put your free visor over your cap…nice look…#2 doesn’t wear mets cap; #5 has on beautiful blue 5950
4. penultimate in douchebaggery — wearing a yankee lid to shea and then adding a mets visor capper — both backward
3. the ultimate in douchebaggery — wearing a yankee cap to shea, forward, THEN wearing your free mets visor BACKWARDS over your yankee cap, creating the sherlock holmes look…
[quote comment=”328198″][quote comment=”328195″][quote comment=”328192″]Some one is sure to know what the patch on the link is for?
Dressed to the nines shows it but doesn’t say link.[/quote]
It’s for the link
link
I ordered one off of Ebay for my Dodgers DIY![/quote]
Isn’t the patch shown at Dressed to the Nines some kind of Baseball Anniversary Patch (20 years, seeing as the 50-year patch came 30 seasons later in ’69?)? Didn’t the NY Knights wear that in THE NATURAL? No being argumentative at all, just remembering there are two different patches from around then. The orange one for the World Fair and the red, white and blue one that was for something else.
—Ricko
[quote]They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction[/quote]
apparently not
50 game suspension
[quote comment=”328197″]Help me out here.
The Dodgers are kicking ass and taking names right now.
They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction.
Yet I don’t recall a national telecast of any of their games as yet this season.
Have the networks just sawed off the country at about the Mississippi and let everything west of there cease to exist?
I mean, do they so desperately NOT want a western team on top that they figure they’ll just ignore it until it goes away?
—Ricko[/quote]
They don’t have Manny for long. Just now being reported that he tested positive for performance enhancing drugs and will be suspended for 50 games.
[quote comment=”328201″][quote]They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction[/quote]
apparently not
50 game suspension[/quote]
Still, despite the new L.A. SportsCenter, it’s starting to feel like pre-1958, the days of the Pacific Coast League. “Oh, yeah, that’s right, they play baseball on the West Coast, too.”
[quote comment=”328199″]i did want to clarify one additional point about the visor-wearing crowd…they could be broken down into five different levels of link.
1. dude wears free visor, but insists on flatbrimming it…only, you cant flatbrim a visor
2. & 5. stardard douchebag treatment…put your free visor over your cap…nice look…#2 doesn’t wear mets cap; #5 has on beautiful blue 5950
4. penultimate in douchebaggery — wearing a yankee lid to shea and then adding a mets visor capper — both backward
3. the ultimate in douchebaggery — wearing a yankee cap to shea, forward, THEN wearing your free mets visor BACKWARDS over your yankee cap, creating the sherlock holmes look…[/quote]
I walked in with this guy…photo #6, “Pinman”:
link
[quote comment=”328197″]Help me out here.
The Dodgers are kicking ass and taking names right now.
They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction.
Yet I don’t recall a national telecast of any of their games as yet this season.
Have the networks just sawed off the country at about the Mississippi and let everything west of there cease to exist?
I mean, do they so desperately NOT want a western team on top that they figure they’ll just ignore it until it goes away?
—Ricko[/quote]
Boy, you’re all about the baseball conspiracy theories these days, ainch’a?
Next I suppose you’ll be asking to see Bud Selig’s birth certificate?
My first reaction to the Philly Union was that the logo looked a little like the Nike link alt jersey logo.
Other than being left pointing snake (new yoga position) I guess they don’t have much in common.
Looking forward to the phans adopting Elton John for their crowd singalongs.
Maybe they should just have Manny and A-Rod interview each other.
[quote comment=”328200″][quote comment=”328198″][quote comment=”328195″][quote comment=”328192″]Some one is sure to know what the patch on the link is for?
Dressed to the nines shows it but doesn’t say link.[/quote]
It’s for the link
link
I ordered one off of Ebay for my Dodgers DIY![/quote]
Isn’t the patch shown at Dressed to the Nines some kind of Baseball Anniversary Patch (20 years, seeing as the 50-year patch came 30 seasons later in ’69?)? Didn’t the NY Knights wear that in THE NATURAL? No being argumentative at all, just remembering there are two different patches from around then. The orange one for the World Fair and the red, white and blue one that was for something else.
—Ricko[/quote]
Yes – he linked to the wrong apage on Dressed to the Nines.
Instead of the 1938 World’s fair patch, he linked to the page for the 1939 Baseball centennial patch. Which, as you note, was on the link jerseys, as the film was set in 1939.
[quote comment=”328205″][quote comment=”328197″]Help me out here.
The Dodgers are kicking ass and taking names right now.
They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction.
Yet I don’t recall a national telecast of any of their games as yet this season.
Have the networks just sawed off the country at about the Mississippi and let everything west of there cease to exist?
I mean, do they so desperately NOT want a western team on top that they figure they’ll just ignore it until it goes away?
—Ricko[/quote]
Boy, you’re all about the baseball conspiracy theories these days, ainch’a?
Next I suppose you’ll be asking to see Bud Selig’s birth certificate?[/quote]
Just saying that after so many years of following the game something (or several things) just feel…I dunno, “odd” this year. The rhythms aren’t the same. Can’t describe the general feeling all that well, so is easier to look at specific examples.
Like we’re at some sort of tipping point. Or approaching one.
—Ricko
(I know, I know…”I felt a great disturbance in the Force” and thank you, Obe-Won).
Jay Cutler-the navy is all one jersey not 2 things!
The undershirt is the undershirt!
They are trying to keep the intergrity of the 3 stripes it seems!
-Stoops
[quote comment=”328201″][quote]They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction[/quote]
apparently not
50 game suspension[/quote]
Can they subpoena his dreadlocks for testing? It would be interesting to see how long this has been going on (assuming the drugs in question leave hair traces in a way similar to, for example, cannibanoids).
[quote comment=”328173″][quote comment=”328159″]1. “…John Condray DIY’d himself a 1937 St. Louis Browns jersey. Additional photos here. …”
Wow. Amazing. Congratulations. About that sleeve patch: who is the mounted figure? Is that Louis Le Bon, aka Saint Louis, France’s sole conspicuously virtuous monarch? And if not, who?
[/quote]
That’s the Browns’ link, featuring the link statue.
The WPS team link use a feminine version of the statue in link.[/quote]
Thank you!
[quote comment=”328212″][quote comment=”328173″][quote comment=”328159″]1. “…John Condray DIY’d himself a 1937 St. Louis Browns jersey. Additional photos here. …”
Wow. Amazing. Congratulations. About that sleeve patch: who is the mounted figure? Is that Louis Le Bon, aka Saint Louis, France’s sole conspicuously virtuous monarch? And if not, who?
[/quote]
That’s the Browns’ link, featuring the link statue.
The WPS team link use a feminine version of the statue in link.[/quote]
Thank you![/quote]
On a related note (and I ask this because I guess I just have never come across anything about it), what’s the origin of the nickname “Browns”?
I mean, I know the Cleveland football story, but not St. Louis baseball.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328213″]On a related note (and I ask this because I guess I just have never come across anything about it), what’s the origin of the nickname “Browns”?
I mean, I know the Cleveland football story, but not St. Louis baseball.[/quote]
according to this site:
[quote]The Browns name is shortened from Brown Stockings, which was also the original name of the Cardinals. The name simply refers to the colors the team wore.[/quote]
i assume you meant that…there’s other history there too
[quote comment=”328214″][quote comment=”328213″]On a related note (and I ask this because I guess I just have never come across anything about it), what’s the origin of the nickname “Browns”?
I mean, I know the Cleveland football story, but not St. Louis baseball.[/quote]
according to link:
[quote]The Browns name is shortened from Brown Stockings, which was also the original name of the Cardinals. The name simply refers to the colors the team wore.[/quote]
i assume you meant that…there’s other history there too[/quote]
Thanks. So like a lot of teams the nickname was uniform-driven. Kinda figured that, but thought maybe there was a backstory.
—Ricko
Not all of those Rawlings helmets are from 1969.
If you notice their are two Redskin helmets. Neither of which the Skins wore in ’69. The gold one with the ‘R’ and feather was only used for the ’70-’71 season IIRC. The burgundy one came in around 1972.
How did no one else realize the New Shea concession has burgers listed twice?
What is that weird space between the second and bottom stripe on Jay Cutler’s jersey?
I kid.
Seriously though, I’m not a fan of the elastic sleeves for QB’s either – looks very NCAA.
Oh, and the guy in the ticker with all the helmets on the stairs – GREAT stuff. Kudos for keeping those, and in such good shape.
[quote comment=”328203″][quote comment=”328201″][quote]They have Manny, who’s still a helluvan attraction[/quote]
apparently not
50 game suspension[/quote]
Still, despite the new L.A. SportsCenter, it’s starting to feel like pre-1958, the days of the Pacific Coast League. “Oh, yeah, that’s right, they play baseball on the West Coast, too.”[/quote]
MAYBE those who have this supposed East Coast Bias, KNEW something wasnt quite right with Man Cram…another cheater…SHOCKING
No one answered my question.
HAVE the Dodgers been in a nationally televised game yet this season?
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328221″]No one answered my question.
HAVE the Dodgers been in a nationally televised game yet this season?
—Ricko[/quote]
im pretty sure they’ve been on the mlb network…twice
[quote comment=”328191″][quote comment=”328190″][quote comment=”328184″][quote comment=”328175″][quote comment=”328170″]but yes, it was link[/quote]
i had to check the comments just to see if it was indeed douchebag night at shea. it’s bad enough you got a handful of ‘bags wearing the visor over the cap, but the DB with the reversed cap/visor combo (under “blue smoke” sign) takes the cake.
i don’t care how bright the sun is, if i’m already wearing a hat, i’m sure as hell gonna shove the visor in my pocket. it’d be like going to free shorts night (hey, it could happen) and pulling them on over your jeans.[/quote]
screw that… didn’t realize when i went to opening day this year at PNC park that they were giving away hats. i just thew it on top of mine. call me a DB, but i didn’t have an awkward hat in my pocket all day. haha. it’s just for one game, no biggie. not like people are now going to wear their visors and hats like that until the end of time…[/quote]
i guess i should have made it clearer that my rant was more directed at visor guy than regular guy. don’t know why, but the visor thing makes me cringe like paul at a link. as for the doubling-up thing… hell, if i got a freebie at a game, i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am. yeeehaawwww!!![/quote]
let’s try that again…
“i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am.”[/quote]
HA! good point marc
in fairness… i am sort of a DB, so…
lol
[quote comment=”328221″]No one answered my question.
HAVE the Dodgers been in a nationally televised game yet this season?
—Ricko[/quote]
The first ESPN game for the Dodgers is May 31 at Wrigley.
[quote comment=”328222″][quote comment=”328221″]No one answered my question.
HAVE the Dodgers been in a nationally televised game yet this season?
—Ricko[/quote]
im pretty sure they’ve been on the mlb network…twice[/quote]
So the answer is no, then. LOL
Yet they’re 21-8, only team in MLB playing over .700 ball.
Go figure.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328215″][quote comment=”328214″][quote comment=”328213″]On a related note (and I ask this because I guess I just have never come across anything about it), what’s the origin of the nickname “Browns”?
I mean, I know the Cleveland football story, but not St. Louis baseball.[/quote]
according to link:
[quote]The Browns name is shortened from Brown Stockings, which was also the original name of the Cardinals. The name simply refers to the colors the team wore.[/quote]
i assume you meant that…there’s other history there too[/quote]
Thanks. So like a lot of teams the nickname was uniform-driven. Kinda figured that, but thought maybe there was a backstory.
—Ricko[/quote]
What’s interesting to me in that story is that they wanted to grab the nickname of the eatablished NL franchise in town. Like the Red Sox did the first moment that the Boston Braves moved to navy as the primary uniform color.
Both NL teams had a history of winning, and in both cases the AL upstarts wanted to “borrow” a little of the magic by adopting the older club’s signature uniform element (and, perhaps almost incidentally, the name).
[quote comment=”328154″]NEUTRAL SITE BASEBALL …….
I too can see it coming – though I believe it not to be a good thing.[/quote]
Nick and Ricko: I guess I just don’t see it happening as fast as you do. And one more question on celebs at the games: obviously no one bothers to show up for games 1-3, but if games 4 or 5 aren’t elimination games do they show up for those anyway? :-)
Does it happen? Maybe. Is it exactly analagous to either the Super Bowl or the Final Four? No.
[quote comment=”328154″]I am in New Orleans, and to me the 1977/1978 Super Bowl (Broncos vs Cowboys)was the end on the Super Bowl being about the teams and their fans and instead began the dismal trend of the game becoming a Disneyland-type experience for every million dollar lawyer, doctor and Hollywood type and their spoiled kids. The teams and their loyal fans are ignored, and are too often on the outside looking in. There are some exceptions, like the Green Bay fans clogging the town en mass with tickets or without, or to a lesser extent the Bears fans in 1986. True, raw enthusiasm, as authentic as it comes.[/quote]
True story-I knew someone who had to be in NO for the 85 Bears. She couldn’t get a ticket, or even transportation to NO. Ended up with a plane ticket to Shreveport, where the rent-a-car agency literally had nothing in inventory.
She ended up renting their courtesy van. :-)
[quote comment=”328154″]As a Steelers fan, he had climbed the mountain, and was able to see it with his own eyes.[/quote]Save the over the top $$, this is how I felt with the ’05 Sox.
[quote comment=”328224″]The first ESPN game for the Dodgers is May 31 at Wrigley.[/quote]
Gee, how could that be?
Oh yeah, two of the top three markets are involved.
[quote comment=”328223″][quote comment=”328191″][quote comment=”328190″][quote comment=”328184″][quote comment=”328175″][quote comment=”328170″]but yes, it was link[/quote]
i had to check the comments just to see if it was indeed douchebag night at shea. it’s bad enough you got a handful of ‘bags wearing the visor over the cap, but the DB with the reversed cap/visor combo (under “blue smoke” sign) takes the cake.
i don’t care how bright the sun is, if i’m already wearing a hat, i’m sure as hell gonna shove the visor in my pocket. it’d be like going to free shorts night (hey, it could happen) and pulling them on over your jeans.[/quote]
screw that… didn’t realize when i went to opening day this year at PNC park that they were giving away hats. i just thew it on top of mine. call me a DB, but i didn’t have an awkward hat in my pocket all day. haha. it’s just for one game, no biggie. not like people are now going to wear their visors and hats like that until the end of time…[/quote]
i guess i should have made it clearer that my rant was more directed at visor guy than regular guy. don’t know why, but the visor thing makes me cringe like paul at a link. as for the doubling-up thing… hell, if i got a freebie at a game, i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am. yeeehaawwww!!![/quote]
let’s try that again…
“i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am.”[/quote]
HA! good point marc
in fairness… i am sort of a DB, so…
lol[/quote]
I had no idea what to do with mine and the one Phil gave me, so that both of my kids would have one.
I enede up just looping them onto my belt buckle…Like Ryan, I’m sure somebody got a pic of that, posted on some other blog and is classifying me as a db right now as well.
first off, great post, i love that 10 to 13 year olde, it’s raining so i can’t play wiffle ball, what do i do, i guess i’ll draw uniforms shit.
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a few interesting bobble ideas. everyone wants something unique, but everyone is totally playing within the rules so far, and i love that the hockey is kings to this point, it was my favourite sculpture. i can’t wait to set them to music and share them with everyone. quick side note, oddly we are at nearly 50% brown uniforms. looks like i am off on a spring run.
I saw a dude at the bar last night wearing one of the old school green and red devils jerseys. Am I the only one who loved those jerseys?
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oops bad link,
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Nick and Ricko: I guess I just don’t see it happening as fast as you do. And one more question on celebs at the games: obviously no one bothers to show up for games 1-3, but if games 4 or 5 aren’t elimination games do they show up for those anyway? :-)
They’ll always have SOMEONE there. It all depends on what the networks, studios and record labels have to promote.
That’s the reality of it.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328154″]By 1977 it was all about the money, and the non-team fans pouring in, and every N.O. Super Bowl since has gotten more and more eliteist and more prima donna disgusting.[/quote]
I forgot this part, again for both Nick and Ricko: don\’t forget the disaster that was the Detroit Super Bowl 4-5 years ago. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY wants to spent a week in Detroit; much less in the dead of winter. So that thing turned into a home game for Pittsburgh.
The same possiblity exists for your domed neutral sites in say, Milwaukee and/or Seattle. I happen to think there’s a MLB version of Jacksonville too, but it’s up to everyone to decide that city for themselves.
here’s a pic of the bears white jerseys with what appears to have the same treatment as cutler’s. link
[quote comment=”328153″][quote comment=”328150″]There was nothing to do BUT watch the game, which facilitated old-school purist activities I love, like keeping score and talking to other fans sitting with you…it built a BASEBALL community. … I still remember the free spirit who thought that the sixth inning of a Friday night game against the A’s was a fine time to remove her top.[/quote]
Interesting notion of “purist baseball community” you folks had there.[/quote]
I loved Yankee Stadium (and I’m a Red Sox and former Mets fan) and I would have loved it even more if I had sat in the upper deck on Friday night.
[quote comment=”328233″]. It all depends on what the networks, studios and record labels have to promote.
—Ricko[/quote]
You’re thinking of John Cougar Overhyped Mellencamp in Detroit, aren’t you?
“I’ll get out there when I’m good and ready. Who cares if the fans are freezing or wet?” :-(
Anyway, it certainly seems to set up a big crowd of psuedocelebs for a 3-1 game; and do those same celebs then show up for the next game if it’s 3-2, and then for Game Seven?
[quote comment=”328226″]Both NL teams had a history of winning, and in both cases the AL upstarts wanted to “borrow” a little of the magic by adopting the older club’s signature uniform element (and, perhaps almost incidentally, the name).[/quote]
Believe this also goes for the White Sox/White Stockings.
[quote comment=”328234″][quote comment=”328154″]By 1977 it was all about the money, and the non-team fans pouring in, and every N.O. Super Bowl since has gotten more and more eliteist and more prima donna disgusting.[/quote]
I forgot this part, again for both Nick and Ricko: don\’t forget the disaster that was the Detroit Super Bowl 4-5 years ago. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY wants to spent a week in Detroit; much less in the dead of winter. So that thing turned into a home game for Pittsburgh.
The same possiblity exists for your domed neutral sites in say, Milwaukee and/or Seattle. I happen to think there’s a MLB version of Jacksonville too, but it’s up to everyone to decide that city for themselves.[/quote]
I’d think a domed site would be only a remote possibility. I mentioned it really only to suggest that if they wanted total control of the WEATHER, too, they’d have that option. I think they’d opt for warm weather sites for a long, long while.
“Welcome back to Miami! It’s a beautiful night for World Series Game Three. Tonight’s pre-game show is coming to you from the Bud Light Pavillion outside Landshark Stadium, where Matt Damon and Ben Affleck will be joining us to talk about the Red Sox’ chances…we’ll listen to Journey in their pregame concert here at the Pavillion…and later Hugh Hefner and the Girls Next Door will be dropping by. So come on back, right after this word from Bud Light.”
(You have just seen the future. Sooner or later…)
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328225″][quote comment=”328222″][quote comment=”328221″]No one answered my question.
HAVE the Dodgers been in a nationally televised game yet this season?
—Ricko[/quote]
im pretty sure they’ve been on the mlb network…twice[/quote]
So the answer is no, then. LOL
Yet they’re 21-8, only team in MLB playing over .700 ball.
Go figure.
—Ricko[/quote]
You are, of course, aware that the schedule was unveiled back in February, right? The Dodgers’ hot start doesn’t have much to do with anything there.
And for the record, although the Dodgers haven’t been on national television (they will be this Saturday), the Angels have. Twice. So has Texas. St. Louis (3x) and Houston (twice) have each been the blackout alternates and the Cards have seen national action once.
So the whole “West of the Mississippi” thing doesn’t hold much water. Yes, there has been a lot of Yankee/Red Sox action front-loaded onto the national schedule. But then they almost disappear, and the Dodgers get more national telecasts.
By my reading, the Dodgers will be on national television 10 times this season. The Yankees, Cardinals and Red Sox? 11.
Yep, that’s some extreme East Coast bias there….
For any Disney fans out there, an old school Mickey Mouse baseball jersey:
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[quote comment=”328238″][quote comment=”328226″]Both NL teams had a history of winning, and in both cases the AL upstarts wanted to “borrow” a little of the magic by adopting the older club’s signature uniform element (and, perhaps almost incidentally, the name).[/quote]
Believe this also goes for the White Sox/White Stockings.[/quote]
You are, of course, correct. Good catch – forgot that one.
[quote comment=”328239″]…we’ll listen to Journey in their pregame concert…
—Ricko[/quote]
Oh no you won’t. Damnit, Journey is the White Sox band! :-)
As noted, everyone has their own version of Jacksonville too. All warm-weather sites are not created equal.
Only slightly related: How many people here would join the “Jeanie Zelasko, put a sock in it” Facebook group?
[quote comment=”328216″]Not all of those Rawlings helmets are from 1969.
If you notice their are two Redskin helmets. Neither of which the Skins wore in ’69. The gold one with the ‘R’ and feather was only used for the ’70-’71 season IIRC. The burgundy one came in around 1972.[/quote]
I wasn’t able to see the photo, but I’m assuming they are the youth model Rawlings helmets? They did make some nice pro model lids:
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[quote comment=”328240″]
You are, of course, aware that the schedule was unveiled back in February, right? The Dodgers’ hot start doesn’t have much to do with anything there…
…that’s some extreme East Coast bias there….[/quote]
No, and neither does the Angels “cold” start, or anything else on-the-field. None of that matters. IMHO it’s all about the size of the market.
And that goes for all sports, notably the 3:00 NFL games.
No east coast bias-Seattle has about the same chance of being on national television as KC or Miami.
[quote comment=”328240″][quote comment=”328225″][quote comment=”328222″][quote comment=”328221″]No one answered my question.
HAVE the Dodgers been in a nationally televised game yet this season?
—Ricko[/quote]
im pretty sure they’ve been on the mlb network…twice[/quote]
So the answer is no, then. LOL
Yet they’re 21-8, only team in MLB playing over .700 ball.
Go figure.
—Ricko[/quote]
You are, of course, aware that the schedule was unveiled back in February, right? The Dodgers’ hot start doesn’t have much to do with anything there.
And for the record, although the Dodgers haven’t been on national television (they will be this Saturday), the Angels have. Twice. So has Texas. St. Louis (3x) and Houston (twice) have each been the blackout alternates and the Cards have seen national action once.
So the whole “West of the Mississippi” thing doesn’t hold much water. Yes, there has been a lot of Yankee/Red Sox action front-loaded onto the national schedule. But then they almost disappear, and the Dodgers get more national telecasts.
By my reading, the Dodgers will be on national television 10 times this season. The Yankees, Cardinals and Red Sox? 11.
Yep, that’s some extreme East Coast bias there….[/quote]
Oh, lord, don’t make more out if that what I intended. I just meant that in their planning they apparently felt no particular urgency to get the NL side of a huge, huge market onto the schedule early, to spread the telecasts across both leagues and as many markets as possible, focussing rather on what their perception of what automatically is a marquee game. And, when the Dodgers got hot, it sorta exposed that “ooops.”
I don’t think they sit in a room and say “Screw the West Coast” I think they, like all of us, sometimes get caught up in our own world and don’t “see the whole board” (chess term). That’s all.
It’s like I used to tell my kids, “Behave yourselves. Not everyone thinks you’re as cute as your Mom and I think you are.” LOL
—Ricko
So anyone got any idea on the design of the upcoming Manny Ramirez memorial patch the Dodgers will be wearing the next 50 games?
[quote comment=”328247″]So anyone got any idea on the design of the upcoming Manny Ramirez memorial patch the Dodgers will be wearing the next 50 games?[/quote]
I heard somewhere that the D-Backs are going to be wearing a celebratory patch..
Well..bye for now to Manny! So, no worries onthem getting a national game anytime soon…they tank without him
[quote comment=”328246″]
Oh, lord, don’t make more out if that what I intended. I just meant that in their planning they apparently felt no particular urgency to get the NL side of a huge, huge market onto the schedule early, to spread the telecasts across both leagues and as many markets as possible, focussing rather on what their perception of what automatically is a marquee game. And, when the Dodgers got hot, it sorta exposed that “ooops.”
I don’t think they sit in a room and say “Screw the West Coast” I think they, like all of us, sometimes get caught up in our own world and don’t “see the whole board” (chess term). That’s all.
[/quote]
There must be a reason to the programming model, that certain East Coast teams are front-loaded on to the schedule and certain West Coast teams are back-loaded. We’re talking about at least three separate entities here (Fox, ESPN and MLB).
I don’t know if we’d think the reason terribly compelling, but I doubt anything happens by accident.
[quote]that goes for all sports, notably the 3:00 NFL games[/quote]
3:00 start?
you mean 1 & 4 pm starts ;)
As near as I can tell, among them, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox and TBS telecast 37 games—and were within days of being a month into the season—before the Dodgers showed up on any of their schedules.
(I counted quickly so don’t hold me precisely to that 37).
As I said, probably not TOTALLY out of whack, just that the Dodgers getting hot made it noticeable.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328252″]As near as I can tell, among them, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox and TBS telecast 37 games—and were within days of being a month into the season—before the Dodgers showed up on any of their schedules.
(I counted quickly so don’t hold me precisely to that 37).
As I said, probably not TOTALLY out of whack, just that the Dodgers getting hot made it noticeable.
—Ricko[/quote]
I think you’re right about the timing, but I’m not sure you can draw any regionalisms from it.
After all, they broadcast a combined 1 games before the Angels showed up on any of their schedules.
More importantly, if Manny doesn’t stay in shape while he’s gone, do the Dodgers have a contingency plan for letting out his pants?
[quote comment=”328251″][quote]that goes for all sports, notably the 3:00 NFL games[/quote]
3:00 start?
you mean 1 & 4 pm starts ;)[/quote]
You mean the 10am and 1pm starts? and then half way through the season it switches to 11am and 2pm starts?
[quote comment=”328255″][quote comment=”328251″][quote]that goes for all sports, notably the 3:00 NFL games[/quote]
3:00 start?
you mean 1 & 4 pm starts ;)[/quote]
You mean the 10am and 1pm starts? and then half way through the season it switches to 11am and 2pm starts?[/quote]
I thought they were always 10am and 1pm, unless its at 5pm on Sunday night, or 6pm on Monday, or Godknowswhen on Thursdays…
[quote comment=”328254″]More importantly, if Manny doesn’t stay in shape while he’s gone, do the Dodgers have a contingency plan for letting out his pants?[/quote]
So to murder the popular “Let Manny be Manny” quote:
Let Manny’s pants be let out
[quote comment=”328253″][quote comment=”328252″]As near as I can tell, among them, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox and TBS telecast 37 games—and were within days of being a month into the season—before the Dodgers showed up on any of their schedules.
(I counted quickly so don’t hold me precisely to that 37).
As I said, probably not TOTALLY out of whack, just that the Dodgers getting hot made it noticeable.
—Ricko[/quote]
I think you’re right about the timing, but I’m not sure you can draw any regionalisms from it.
After all, they broadcast a combined 1 games before the Angels showed up on any of their schedules.[/quote]
I did say they were ignoring the “NL side” of the that market. LOL
But, hey, it may well be that ratings show early season games don’t draw decent TV audiences in the west, even it if it’s “their” team. It just know it seems strange that the Dodgers are so hot and still so…invisible.
—Ricko
Regarding the Philly Union: Don’t these prototype jerseys ( link ) remind you of a certain defunct team’s? ( link )
Especially that gawdawful stripe down the middle.
[quote] half way through the season it switches to 11am and 2pm starts[/quote]
gaddam you arizonans and yer “we’re too good for daylight savings time” ;)
[quote comment=”328260″][quote] half way through the season it switches to 11am and 2pm starts[/quote]
gaddam you arizonans and yer “we’re too good for daylight savings time” ;)[/quote]
Yeah.. cuz it’s MY fault Phil.. pisses me the hell off too! course when it’s 930 at night and the sun is still up, I understand it a lil better.
[quote comment=”328254″]More importantly, if Manny doesn’t stay in shape while he’s gone, do the Dodgers have a contingency plan for letting out his pants?[/quote]
Wait… let who do what with what that is in Manny’s pants?
[quote comment=”328259″]Regarding the Philly Union: Don’t these prototype jerseys ( link ) remind you of a certain defunct team’s? ( link )
Especially that gawdawful stripe down the middle.[/quote]
Phil covets those socks.
(snicker)
[quote comment=”328190″][quote comment=”328184″][quote comment=”328175″][quote comment=”328170″]but yes, it was link[/quote]
i had to check the comments just to see if it was indeed douchebag night at shea. it’s bad enough you got a handful of ‘bags wearing the visor over the cap, but the DB with the reversed cap/visor combo (under “blue smoke” sign) takes the cake.
i don’t care how bright the sun is, if i’m already wearing a hat, i’m sure as hell gonna shove the visor in my pocket. it’d be like going to free shorts night (hey, it could happen) and pulling them on over your jeans.[/quote]
screw that… didn’t realize when i went to opening day this year at PNC park that they were giving away hats. i just thew it on top of mine. call me a DB, but i didn’t have an awkward hat in my pocket all day. haha. it’s just for one game, no biggie. not like people are now going to wear their visors and hats like that until the end of time…[/quote]
i guess i should have made it clearer that my rant was more directed at visor guy than regular guy. don’t know why, but the visor thing makes me cringe like paul at a link. as for the doubling-up thing… hell, if i got a freebie at a game, i’d likely reverse it and plop it on top of my cap du jour link… then i’d get some guy commenting on a blog about how big a douche i am. yeeehaawwww!!![/quote]
I remember listening to late night ESPN Radio on the night of the very first Baltimore Ravens preseason game. It was the first time the radio host had ever seen the Ravens new unis, and he commented that the original helmet logo looked like it was stolen from the Mystic Order of the Moose Lodge. I think the Ravens wore White for that first game, so the Purple wasn’t an issue.
I thought that had the Ravens wore White Pants with their original uni, it would have been passable.
I don’t have a problem with purple when it is done right.
TCU, current Vikes – NO.
Lakers, Northwestern, Old Vikes, – Yes.
Northwestern football does a very good job with it as of late, in the Walker/Fitzgerald era.
Simple but stylish unis with USC inserts on the jerseys (though I liked the curved numbers of the Walker years better than the current block numerals that clash with the rest of the uni),
Purple and White only, WITHOUT THE BLACK !!!
I’ll take it.
Dressed to the nines has all the current home and away MLB jerseys, but is there a comprehensive listing of the current (don’t need past) alternate jerseys somewhere?
-Greenie
In other Rangers’ helmet news, the local broadcasts have been promoting the upcoming Josh Hamilton bobblehead night and the bobblehead had a red jersey with what appeared to be an all red helmet.
ESPN’s “Re-Rank” logo is on my lawn mower engine.
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[quote comment=”328226″][quote comment=”328215″][quote comment=”328214″][quote comment=”328213″]On a related note (and I ask this because I guess I just have never come across anything about it), what’s the origin of the nickname “Browns”?
I mean, I know the Cleveland football story, but not St. Louis baseball.[/quote]
according to link:
[quote]The Browns name is shortened from Brown Stockings, which was also the original name of the Cardinals. The name simply refers to the colors the team wore.[/quote]
i assume you meant that…there’s other history there too[/quote]
Thanks. So like a lot of teams the nickname was uniform-driven. Kinda figured that, but thought maybe there was a backstory.
—Ricko[/quote]
What’s interesting to me in that story is that they wanted to grab the nickname of the eatablished NL franchise in town. Like the Red Sox did the first moment that the Boston Braves moved to navy as the primary uniform color.
Both NL teams had a history of winning, and in both cases the AL upstarts wanted to “borrow” a little of the magic by adopting the older club’s signature uniform element (and, perhaps almost incidentally, the name).[/quote]
Also note that the original name of the Cubs was the White Stockings.
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[quote comment=”328241″]For any Disney fans out there, an old school Mickey Mouse baseball jersey:
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ach! what douchebags!
the slimy disney company strikes again. first it buys all kinds of television and multimedia companies like abc and espn, and now it spreads its tentacles into the national pastime. this reeks of another marketing gimmick. guess the company is all about making money for its investors, not respecting baseball tradition. what’s worse, disney’s colors are blue and white:
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the red is clearly an alternate. i cant believe disney would send the beloved mickey out onto the field in such a monstrosity. this softball jersey should never see the light of day. these marketing moves must stop! bring back the white and gray!
/sarcasm
nothin wrong with a little parody on a thursday afternoon, right?
[quote comment=”328259″]Regarding the Philly Union: Don’t these prototype jerseys ( link ) remind you of a certain defunct team’s? ( link )
Especially that gawdawful stripe down the middle.[/quote]
Those are from sort of a UW friendly thread on link where people are posting their DIY designs for potential MLS expansion teams.
Some good ideas and at least one reference to the Canucks flying V sweater.
Love the Union logo.
The Chelsea jersey has been out for some time, that design is the new adidas jersey template. I think others are already using like the New York RedBull? Well, at least we know the purpose of The Observer in Fringe. To become a soccer ref and completely screw Chelsea out of a chance at the winning the Champions League!
Manny did NOT get suspended for steroids or HGH.
[quote comment=”328239″][quote comment=”328234″][quote comment=”328154″]By 1977 it was all about the money, and the non-team fans pouring in, and every N.O. Super Bowl since has gotten more and more eliteist and more prima donna disgusting.[/quote]
I forgot this part, again for both Nick and Ricko: don\’t forget the disaster that was the Detroit Super Bowl 4-5 years ago. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY wants to spent a week in Detroit; much less in the dead of winter. So that thing turned into a home game for Pittsburgh.
The same possiblity exists for your domed neutral sites in say, Milwaukee and/or Seattle. I happen to think there’s a MLB version of Jacksonville too, but it’s up to everyone to decide that city for themselves.[/quote]
I’d think a domed site would be only a remote possibility. I mentioned it really only to suggest that if they wanted total control of the WEATHER, too, they’d have that option. I think they’d opt for warm weather sites for a long, long while.
“Welcome back to Miami! It’s a beautiful night for World Series Game Three. Tonight’s pre-game show is coming to you from the Bud Light Pavillion outside Landshark Stadium, where Matt Damon and Ben Affleck will be joining us to talk about the Red Sox’ chances…we’ll listen to Journey in their pregame concert here at the Pavillion…and later Hugh Hefner and the Girls Next Door will be dropping by. So come on back, right after this word from Bud Light.”
(You have just seen the future. Sooner or later…)
—Ricko[/quote]
I am reaching the point where I would tolerate all of this if it would put an end to World Series games being played in a driving rain and 37 degree temperatures.
Only other choice would be to return to DAYTIME World Series games.
Miss 50 days of work and you’re out $7.6 million.
Ooooo, I hate when that happens.
I imagine you guys do, too.
[quote]Manny did NOT get suspended for steroids or HGH[/quote]
spleef?
Big Manny got suspended for trying to enhance Little Manny’s performance..
“I am reaching the point where I would tolerate all of this if it would put an end to World Series games being played in a driving rain and 37 degree temperatures.”
Yup, that’s what they’re working on getting 20 or 30 million of us to think.
Sadly, Elmer Fudd hats add very little that’s positive to World Series lore. And I live in Minnesota, where we’ll play softball when it’s SNOWING, for pete’s sake.
So, yeah, seeing as MLB has irrevocably pushed the Summer Game into the early days of Winter, other than going back to day games, they’ve left themselves with a neutral site as about the only option on the table to revitalize the W-S.
Those clever devils.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328248″][quote comment=”328247″]So anyone got any idea on the design of the upcoming Manny Ramirez memorial patch the Dodgers will be wearing the next 50 games?[/quote]
I heard somewhere that the D-Backs are going to be wearing a celebratory patch..[/quote]
Yeah it will be a variation on the db snakehead!
[quote comment=”328277″][quote comment=”328248″][quote comment=”328247″]So anyone got any idea on the design of the upcoming Manny Ramirez memorial patch the Dodgers will be wearing the next 50 games?[/quote]
I heard somewhere that the D-Backs are going to be wearing a celebratory patch..[/quote]
Yeah it will be a variation on the db snakehead![/quote]
You mean the David Blaine logo, Matt?
i wasn’t exactly sure how it worked either, but it did. and ry co is officially the first mother fucker who get it bobble style. i am thinking a little esquivel sentimental journey might really make his (i am keeping it a secret until you see it) bobble video pop. but we will see on that, some other song might inspire me more by the time it is finished.
[quote comment=”328275″]Big Manny got suspended for trying to enhance Little Manny’s performance..[/quote]
That’s just Manny being flabby.
No, no, Manny…taking that stuff will result in your EJECTION.
“Who let the bold face out?”
okay…nevermind.
[quote comment=”328143″]If Citi Bank is all but forced to pull their sponsorship (much like Ameriquest in Arlington) from the new Mets ballpark, and Mr. Lukas et. al get there way with the stadium’s name, would it be a Shea d’etat?
After the most recent purchaser of stadium naming rights (Land Shark), I am wondering if in Miami they will be making “I’m Calling it Joe Robbie” t-shirts? At least we will never have Uni Watch presented by AT&T.[/quote]
People have been calling it “Joe Robbie” ever since it first changed to Pro Player in 1996. Then it also was referred to as “Joe Player”. I used Joe Player a lot in those years. Now I’m used to Dolphin Stadium, but am not opposed to Land Shark, unless it is short term and goes back to Dolphin again.
A few years ago, DHL tried to get the name, but the Orange Bowl, sponsored by FedEx, opposed that, for fear of losing FedEx’s sponsorship money. They succeeded at blocking it.
That reminds me, I finally had a chance to see the bobbleheads, and all I know is I want one!
Great work Robert, those are incredible.
I liked the St Louis Browns DIY and the little tidbits about the Browns history and name. ANd glad Phil posted that St Louis Browns site.
They are a team that intrigues me. I understand they were a very financially strapped team. I heard one story that they were running out of baseballs and had to either go into the stands or ask for any foul ball to be returned so they could finish game.
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St Louis Browns in color from 1939 or 40
[quote comment=”328197″]“[The Dodgers] have Manny, who’s
still a helluvan attractionon a fifty-game unpaid vacation.”[/quote]Fixed thanks to Long Guyland Philip. I’ll get off his lawn now.
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People have been calling it “Joe Robbie” ever since it first changed to Pro Player in 1996. Then it also was referred to as “Joe Player”. I used Joe Player a lot in those years. Now I’m used to Dolphin Stadium, but am not opposed to Land Shark, unless it is short term and goes back to Dolphin again..[/quote]
1) Glad that we’ve got one other area that resists corporate name changes. I said that I still called it Comiskey (and the Stadium) and from the reaction here you would have thought that I was Micheal Vick’s evil twin.
2) Hey Ricko, I know you said “Land Shark” earlier today but I thought you were just being funny! :-)
3) Here’s a quote from the news story:
Dolphin Stadium has lacked a corporate sponsorship for years. This will be the fifth name change since the stadium opened its doors in 1987. In that time, the stadium has hosted four Super Bowls, with another scheduled in 2010, two World Series, three BCS college national championships and will be the first venue to host the NFL Pro Bowl in 2010.
Huh?? What does that mean? Certainly won’t be the first venue, and it won’t be the first mainland venue either.
The Adirondack Phantoms released their new uniform template for next season, when they were in Philadelphia they had a lot of purple in the uniform, all of that will be gone next season.
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[quote comment=”328281″]No, no, Manny…taking that stuff will result in your EJECTION.[/quote]
Please see a doctor if you have an erection that lasts more than four hours or 12 innings, whichever
comesoccurs first.[quote comment=”328289″][quote comment=”328284″]
People have been calling it “Joe Robbie” ever since it first changed to Pro Player in 1996. Then it also was referred to as “Joe Player”. I used Joe Player a lot in those years. Now I’m used to Dolphin Stadium, but am not opposed to Land Shark, unless it is short term and goes back to Dolphin again..[/quote]
1) Glad that we’ve got one other area that resists corporate name changes. I said that I still called it Comiskey (and the Stadium) and from the reaction here you would have thought that I was Micheal Vick’s evil twin.
2) Hey Ricko, I know you said “Land Shark” earlier today but I thought you were just being funny! :-)
3) Here’s a quote from the news story:
Dolphin Stadium has lacked a corporate sponsorship for years. This will be the fifth name change since the stadium opened its doors in 1987. In that time, the stadium has hosted four Super Bowls, with another scheduled in 2010, two World Series, three BCS college national championships and will be the first venue to host the NFL Pro Bowl in 2010.
Huh?? What does that mean? Certainly won’t be the first venue, and it won’t be the first mainland venue either.[/quote]
There are gonna be TWO Pro Bowls in 2010???
Well, I mean, if Miami has the first one…
[quote comment=”328292″]There are gonna be TWO Pro Bowls in 2010??? Well, I mean, if Miami has the first one…[/quote]
Good point. Goddell finally got tired of all the players claiming a phantom “injury” to get out the game and said “if you can’t make the first one in Miami, you can go to Pro Bowl II on the last weekend of February.
And that game is in Buffalo.”
:-)
on the other hand…i’d rather wear the vikings purple AFL crap jerseys than one of these.
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[quote comment=”328255″][quote comment=”328251″][quote]that goes for all sports, notably the 3:00 NFL games[/quote]
3:00 start?
you mean 1 & 4 pm starts ;)[/quote]
You mean the 10am and 1pm starts? and then half way through the season it switches to 11am and 2pm starts?[/quote]
At least you’ve got the times right at the end of the season. The morning game and the regular 2 o’clock game.
The Bears’ jerseys have had that lonely bottom sleeve stripe since at least 1997, when Nike started making the jerseys (shocking). I always thought it looked odd too, but seeing it all the time I’ve just kinda gotten used to it.
I think the idea is that when the jersey is being worn and the bottom of the sleeve curves under the shoulder pad and rides a bit up the arm, the stripes should optically look even….. but that’s a stretch.
All the time it was… we finally really did it…link
ry co~
so i was running around town getting the last 6 #45 springs that the city of chicago has from at least 13 different hardware stores. i don’t get my bulk shipment until friday or monday, and want to get started. anyway, i was listening to some grinderman, are you familiar? if not, you will be. you. will. be. i got an idea for your video that is so over the top as a thank you for you being the first that your grandchildren’s grandchildren already have a hard on.
[quote comment=”328297″]All the time it was… we finally really did it…link[/quote]
Oh dear God those are hideous. They look like the football version of the early 1980’s Padres jerseys. I Bet Ray Kroc and Bob Howsam are puking in their graves.
[quote comment=”328299″][quote comment=”328297″]All the time it was… we finally really did it…link[/quote]
Oh dear God those are hideous. They look like the football version of the early 1980’s Padres jerseys. I Bet Ray Kroc and Bob Howsam are puking in their graves.[/quote]
I think it’s darn funny that they’re selling these. Also I happen to know that there’s another venue in which this look will be seen before too long.
“I think the idea is that when the jersey is being worn and the bottom of the sleeve curves under the shoulder pad and rides a bit up the arm, the stripes should optically look even….. but that’s a stretch.”
That would appear to the notion. Another version of what the new 49ers’ jerseys are about: trying to keep traditional sleeve stripes in an era when there really aren’t any sleeves to stripe.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”328299″][quote comment=”328297″]All the time it was… we finally really did it…link[/quote]
Oh dear God those are hideous. They look like the football version of the early 1980’s Padres jerseys. I Bet Ray Kroc and Bob Howsam are puking in their graves.[/quote]
For the umpteenth time, part of the interest in some of these throwbacks IS that they’re so ugly. No one has ever claimed they’re all great-looking. You’d have to be an idiot to think all of them look good. But they’re fun…and they’re a look back…and that’s what they’re about.
—Ricko
ESPN’s PTI first got it wrong, but they acknowledged it. In talking about Barcelona – Chelsea they posted the logo for RCD Espanyol instead of Barca. (wish I had a screen grab!) link
To their infinite credit, they caught it during the “corrections” segment. Maybe someone across the hall at ESPN Deportes told them that they were doing the equivalent of talking about the Yankees while posting a Mets logo?
[quote comment=”328276″]”I am reaching the point where I would tolerate all of this if it would put an end to World Series games being played in a driving rain and 37 degree temperatures.”
Yup, that’s what they’re working on getting 20 or 30 million of us to think.
Sadly, Elmer Fudd hats add very little that’s positive to World Series lore. And I live in Minnesota, where we’ll play softball when it’s SNOWING, for pete’s sake.
So, yeah, seeing as MLB has irrevocably pushed the Summer Game into the early days of Winter, other than going back to day games, they’ve left themselves with a neutral site as about the only option on the table to revitalize the W-S.
Those clever devils.
—Ricko[/quote]
Neutral site World Series will NEVER, EVER happen.
[quote comment=”328295″][quote comment=”328255″][quote comment=”328251″][quote]that goes for all sports, notably the 3:00 NFL games[/quote]
3:00 start?
you mean 1 & 4 pm starts ;)[/quote]
You mean the 10am and 1pm starts? and then half way through the season it switches to 11am and 2pm starts?[/quote]
At least you’ve got the times right at the end of the season. The morning game and the regular 2 o’clock game.[/quote]
I assure you these are the correct times for Phoenix.
Cap, uniforms and logo for the Big Bend Cowboys of Alpine, Texas, the newest team in the Continental Baseball League:
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I think that the MASTER YODA shirt you have posted is a picture of someone I know. The story behind it is that he is a trumpet teacher and with his time doing marching music activities, he has become known as Yoda and every year for his birthday the students, we would get him a Baseball hat or shirt. I believe this is a Phillies shirt some students got for him this year. Everyday for rehearsal he would wear a different ball cap or t-shirt….he is from the northeast, and I’m about 95% sure that is him.
[quote comment=”328290″]The Adirondack Phantoms released their new uniform template for next season, when they were in Philadelphia they had a lot of purple in the uniform, all of that will be gone next season.
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And the blocking is still stupid.
sweet
nice
1. The “Phantoms” name should be retired with the Spectrum.
2. The Flyers should have swapped out an affilaition closer to home, like Wilkes-Barre/Scranton or Hershey or even asked to move the team to Reading, evicting the Royals in the process.
judging by the jersey number, it looks like that is supposed to be joe theisman on the front of this schedule. however, that facemask isn’t accurate. i don’t remember any redskin ever wearing a mask like that.
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Sort of uni-centric?!?…….or just very weird.
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I’m glad the Angels even went with the elastic pants. Looked good.
Josh Fields of the Chicago White Sox changed his uni number to 7 from 22 so Scott Podsednik can have it back