The NFL began rolling out the details of its AFL throwback program yesterday, and there’s a lot to like. The jerseys and helmets look pretty damn sweet, no? (For the full effect, check out this larger version.) Here’s a bit of additional info and observations:
• Some details still need to be worked out. For example, that photo shows a white Pats jersey and a blue Bills jersey, but the Bills and Pats are supposed to be wearing throwback gear in Foxboro on Sept. 14th. So will the Pats be wearing white at home for that game? I posed that question to an NFL rep and was told, “Not necessarily.” Not sure if they’re being coy or if they haven’t laid all the groundwork yet.
• The sight of Josh McDaniels holding a Jay Cutler jersey is apparently being interpreted as a peace offering.
• Speaking of the Broncos, I’m sure you want to know if their 1960 throwback design will include the vertically striped socks. I asked about that and was told, to my surprise, yes. I have a feeling this plan may go the way of the Texas Rangers’ two-tone helmets once fans and players make their feelings known, but we’ll see. It would be a major coup if they actually went through with it. And then, as James Craven suggested in last night’s comments, they could hold a throwback bonfire.
• Aside from the Denver hosiery news, no other pants or socks info is available yet.
• As we all know, the Chiefs used to be called the Dallas Texans, so their throwback uniform features a Texans helmet. This has ruffled some feathers in Kansas City, where some idiots think the team would be “betraying Missouri” or something like that by wearing the shape of Texas on their helmets. A KC sports station apparently spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to stoke the fires on this one, and the station has even launched a petition drive. When you all stop laughing, could someone please tell these people that franchises sometimes like to honor their history, even if that history was in another city? I realize this probably says more about a talk radio blowhard who’d rather stir up phony outrage over a phony issue for an afternoon instead of actually thinking (much less working) than it does about Kansas City fans as a whole, but still, you’d think KC — which was lucky enough to get the Kings/Royals from Cincinnati and the A’s from Philly and then didn’t support either team enough to keep them from relocating again — would be less uppity about this kind of thing. Just sayin’.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Back in January of 2008, I ran this entry about a curling team that bought some vintage sweaters on eBay and adopted them as their official team attire. Now Nolan Thiessen, a member of that team, has checked in with an upsetting story: “One of the sweaters was stolen out of our second’s truck a week ago, so we can’t wear them anymore — can’t wear only three of four (you wouldn’t be impressed with our threads that we have to wear now). We’d love to hear from anyone if they ever see the sweater turn up.
Not sure how much anyone could end up getting out of it — tough to sell a sweater with our names and sponsor cresting on it.” So if you see one of these on eBay or at your local vintage shop, give me a holler. ”¦ The Nuggets’ green jerseys, slated to be worn in early April, will look like this (with thanks to Kayce Harris). ”¦ The NFL is considering lots of changes to its schedule and playoff format. ”¦ Ladies and gentlemen, your Miami Marlins. ”¦ A little birdie has generously photographed an entire Niketown employee handbook for our enjoyment. Many pearls of wisdom to appreciate here, including the suggestion to greet the consumer “in an authentic way,” such as by saying, “Cool tee! Where did you get it?” Sounds good, but I wore my “Nike Can Blow Me” tee to one of their shops the other day and nobody said boo. Phonies. ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Weird scene in the final WBC game, as Yong-Kyu Lee slid head-first into an infielder’s knee and shattered his helmet. You can see video of the play about one-third of the way into the clip on this page. ”¦ I have a parking meter in the corner of my living room, so I was disappointed to hear that someone in Chicago is defacing parking meters (with thanks to Kenny Keil). ”¦ Slow news day at Deadspin. Basically, a food blogger set up his own meat bracket nine days ago, and now he and some of his readers have their bratwursts in a twist cuz I ripped him off or didn’t credit him or whatever. The truth, of course, is that meat brackets have been going on for years, so neither of us was exactly splitting the atom here. In any case: Yes, his bracket came out before mine, and I would’ve happily credited him if I’d seen it. But I hadn’t, so I didn’t. ”¦ Long-overdue shout-out: I never would’ve been able to attend the Super Flush at the Mets’ new stadium if John Vivino hadn’t told me about it a few weeks ago. Thanks, buddy! ”¦ And speaking of the Big Flush, my T-shirt is a hit on eBay. ”¦ Dwyane Wade gave away a jersey to a disabled kid the other day (with thanks to Dominick Carfello). ”¦ Chris Warfford reports that the UNC baseball team, which usually wears black cleats, went with white on Sunday. ”¦ The baseball team at Jesuit High School in Sacramento wears these stirrups. “Many of the boys like to wear the pants low,” says Jesuit alum Germano Diniz, “but there is one thing that is always true: The ship must show.” ”¦ TV note from Mark Wolven, who writes: “In Monday night’s episode of Rules of Engagement, Jeff (the character played by Patrick Warburton) comes in after a softball game wearing his uniform, which has ‘Buttermakers’ script (an obvious reference to coach Morris Butermaker, played by Walter Matthau in the original Bad New Bears) and a Chico’s Bail Bonds sleeve patch.” ”¦ “Went to a stanford baseball game recently and noticed a memorial (embroidered) patch on their uni,” says Paul Wiederecht. “Here’s the info from their media guide.” ”¦ “My wife and I were visiting her family in Taiwan in November when I came across a note that shows the Taipei Little League team when they won the Little League World Series,” says Jeff La Hie. “The note is actually quite impressive in person, with the sanitaries showing up very clearly.” ”¦ Michael Orr was watching a girls’ high school soccer game and noticed that the captain of one team was wearing her captain’s band on her calf instead of on her arm. “Maybe her arms were just too small, or maybe it’s common in girls soccer,” he says. Anyone know more about this? ”¦ A few days ago I mentioned that Ozzie Guillen wrote “OPD” (for Oakland Police Dept.) on his cap. Now James Huening has provided a photo. ”¦ Remember how Chase Utley hiked up his pants when playing in a minor league game, because the Phils require all their minor leaguers to go high-cuffed? Cole Hamels did the same thing yesterday (with thanks to Kevin Riley). ”¦ In other Phillies news, sort of, Sarge Matthews now has his own line of hats (as reported by Mario Carr). ”¦ Larry Bodnovich likes to colorize old black-and-white photos — especially old shots of Ohio State football. ”¦ “As you may recall, Bob Knight coached the ’84 Olympic basketball team,” writes Mark McGinnis. “I don’t know whose idea it was, but that team wore familiar warm-up pants, at least for Indiana fans. I had forgotten this completely.”
I have always disfavored the windbreaker-under-the-baseball-jersey look, but examples such as this one drive me over the edge. A green windbreaker under a Reds jersey? Were the players bringing whatever windbreakers they had in their closet at home?
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The AFL throwbacks are very cool, but since they are celebrating the 50th anniversary, shouldn’t every team be wearing a throwback from the AFL’s first season? Choosing a “legacy season” to honor doesn’t feel right.
Nice shoutout to you on the Feedbag webpage!
[quote comment=”319307″]Nice shoutout to you on the Feedbag webpage![/quote]
Josh (the editor there) is a longtime pal and comrade-in-carnivorism. Swell guy.
Even though Josh McDaniels is apparently a smurf, that Cutler jersey looks long enough to be a dress. Some peace offering!
Paul,
Those guys on that blog were pissed! WTF! HAHA! Those people are a special breed.
I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.
aren’t the old AFL teams playing two “throwback” uni games? if so, might the scheduling geniuses have given all teams wearing them both a home and away game, and therefore, they could wear both a white and a color jersey? (even tho some of the jerseys shown were white and some were in color, does it necessarily follow the white-wearing teams will only be the away teams to the color-wearing home teams?)
i haven’t seen the schedule for next year, just going on my rapidly failing memory that the orig. 8 would be playing 2 games in retro unis…and figure the NFL would love the marketing opportunities inherent in offering the public two new jerseys to purchase…but i could be wrong
Paul,
I’m going to be writing a blog post about a recent trip home to Johnstown to take in a few Chiefs games. I am wondering if I should do a Google search to see if someone else has already done that.
Your advice would be appreciated.
Sincerely,
Kek
P.S. Seriously, WTF?!
I know all of you are big fans of John Buccigross’ weekly column on ESPN.com, so I’m sure you have seen this equipment-related item already:
Have you heard much about Marc Savard’s challenging Sidney Crosby to a fight but saying he wouldn’t because Crosby was wearing a visor? After which Crosby returned to the bench, removed the visor and returned to the ice. At that point, Savard backed down. I feel Crosby gets no respect, and this type of action shows he’s a true hockey player and a great leader.
Tyler
Grove City, Pa.
I made a phone call (old school!) and a Penguins team source tells me at least some of this happened in the March 15 Bruins-Pens game. Savard made a comment about Crosby and his visor. Crosby then went to the Penguins’ bench and had equipment dude Dana Heinze remove his visor. Heinze told my source he had never had such a request. Now, as far as Savard’s “backing down,” my source could not confirm whether there were any more verbal exchanges between Savard and Crosby for the rest of the game.
[quote comment=”319311″]I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.[/quote]
i’ve seen it in mens soccer too. i think part of it is most players aren’t used to having something on their arm, so it feels a little restricting. and you don’t have to worry about readjusting it all the time.
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My favorite pics from Larry Bodnovich’s collection
[quote comment=”319313″]Paul,
I’m going to be writing a blog post about a recent trip home to Johnstown to take in a few Chiefs games. I am wondering if I should do a Google search to see if someone else has already done that.
Your advice would be appreciated.
Sincerely,
Kek
P.S. Seriously, WTF?![/quote]
fuck that, kek…rip the pricks off…no self-respecting blogger with a great idea should bother to google that shit first to make sure someone hasn’t beat him/her to the punch
the bottom line is you write it, i figure you’re big enough to get away with the snatch and poach the idea…
you won’t get jacked, dude…seriously
Many Bills fans, including this one, are hoping Buffalo will unveil a white throwback to go with their blue one…the all white look would look clean and sharp, but my favorite all-time Bills uni’s were the ’73 classics: the standing red buffalo on the white helmet, with blue pants to go with the road white jersey.
[quote comment=”319306″]The AFL throwbacks are very cool, but since they are celebrating the 50th anniversary, shouldn’t every team be wearing a throwback from the AFL’s first season? Choosing a “legacy season” to honor doesn’t feel right.[/quote]
I’m with you on this, but speaking as a Patriots fan I feel comfortable in saying that if they went with the original helmet design (a tricornered hat with the number underneath) a lot of the rank-and-file fans would scratch their heads.
Besides, there’s still a lot of love for Pat Patriot around these parts.
Man, those AFL throwbacks are gorgeous! Bills, Texans and Oilers – WOW! And it nice to see the “real” Chargers baby blues, not that piece of crap new uniform from last season.
It would be even better if the teams got rid of those misplaced Revolution helmets!
[quote comment=”319315″][quote comment=”319311″]I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.[/quote]
i’ve seen it in mens soccer too. i think part of it is most players aren’t used to having something on their arm, so it feels a little restricting. and you don’t have to worry about readjusting it all the time.[/quote]
It’s not an uncommon thing, I have seen girls wear them on their arm,legs even once a girl wore it a choker necklace, they want to stand out pretty much.
Regarding Kansas City, not only did KC “adopt” the Kings & the A’s, but they were about a gnat’s eyelash away from taking the Penguins in the NHL just a few short years ago!
Glad the Bills won’t be throwing their child-designed “50” patch on those.
Hopefully.
Broncos will wear a brown helmet…wow not too many brown helmeted teams in recent memory. The San Diego Padres use to wear Brown batting helmets, the Toronto Maple Leafs had a one and done with their Green St Patricks unis, that had a brown helmet …. that’s all that comes to mind
The Broncos , for those games , should maybe get the guy who appears in the UPS commercials , to draw up some plays on the white board.
So the NFL wants to play the Super Bowl in mid-February? What’s next, the World Series at Thanksgiving? Greed trumps over all. Never mind diluting the product. Short-term gain is prized. There is a reason no one cares about the NBA Finals in June, after two months of playoffs where everybody’s grandmother is invited to play.
When will they understand that less is more?
More links to the Lion’s revised look. Interesting that the wordmark looks similar to what Ricko posted a little while back?
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Does anyone know if those jerseys will be up for sale? I imagine that they would, but just wondering. Also, I am not opposed to the Dallas Texans, although I wish the Houston Texans would have become the Oilers, and the Titans just be the Titans.
I love the grey facemasks as well, I kind of with the current Chiefs would switch.
I also read somewhere that when the Chiefs and Cowboys meet they will be wearing throwbacks to commemorate the time when both teams shared the same city in Dallas. It will be a home game for the Chiefs (Texans) so they should be wearing the red jersey. Does that mean we will finally get to see the white version of the Dallas Cowboys throwbacks this year too?
[quote comment=”319321″][quote comment=”319315″][quote comment=”319311″]I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.[/quote]
i’ve seen it in mens soccer too. i think part of it is most players aren’t used to having something on their arm, so it feels a little restricting. and you don’t have to worry about readjusting it all the time.[/quote]
It’s not an uncommon thing, I have seen girls wear them on their arm,legs even once a girl wore it a choker necklace, they want to stand out pretty much.[/quote]
Those captain bands are insanely large. I used to get them for my JV HS boys and if they wanted to wear them around their arms, they’d have to sew them to size. At least one player I had wore it in the same way as that photo…
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Your comment about the Pittsburgh soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold.
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I lived in Pittsburgh when the Spirit were playing. They made a big deal about the fact that they were the only city to have four teams wearing the same colors. This was shortly after the Penguins also switched to Black and Gold.
But then we got the . . . . . Pittsburgh Maulers:
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Hey Paul,
Yeah I found it amusing that Deadspin wrote about our meat brackets. Some of my readers were definitely pissed at you, but I tried to keep a level head about it. I said a few times in the comments on my blog that I am by no means taking credit for having come up with the idea, although certainly it was unfortunate timing that your column went up a week after my tournament started. As I said, you’re welcome to head over to So Good and weigh in with your vote for any of our future Meat Madness match-ups.
Jon
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[quote comment=”319327″]Does anyone know if those jerseys will be up for sale? I imagine that they would, but just wondering. Also, I am not opposed to the Dallas Texans, although I wish the Houston Texans would have become the Oilers, and the Titans just be the Titans.
I love the grey facemasks as well, I kind of with the current Chiefs would switch.[/quote]
i’m with you on the grey facemask thing! i wish the steelers would make the switch.
back in the day, when warren moon WASN’T playing the steelers, he was my favorite player. i LIKE the blue helmet, but there’s just something about the oilers white helmet with the lite-blue and red. love it!
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Your comment about the Pittsburgh soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold.
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I lived in Pittsburgh when the Spirit were playing. They made a big deal about the fact that they were the only city to have four teams wearing the same colors. This was shortly after the Penguins also switched to Black and Gold.
But then we got the . . . . . Pittsburgh Maulers:
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always loved the maulers logo! that would have looked sharp in black & gold!
[quote comment=”319329″][quote comment=”319321″][quote comment=”319315″][quote comment=”319311″]I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.[/quote]
i’ve seen it in mens soccer too. i think part of it is most players aren’t used to having something on their arm, so it feels a little restricting. and you don’t have to worry about readjusting it all the time.[/quote]
It’s not an uncommon thing, I have seen girls wear them on their arm,legs even once a girl wore it a choker necklace, they want to stand out pretty much.[/quote]
Those captain bands are insanely large. I used to get them for my JV HS boys and if they wanted to wear them around their arms, they’d have to sew them to size. At least one player I had wore it in the same way as that photo…[/quote]
I was pretty sure that the FIFA soccer rules called for the captain to wear a band around his arm. Looked it up in their ‘laws of the game’ (Fifa.com). Interestingly the captain is mentioned a couple of times (toss at the start of the game among other), but the composition of the team states no more than ‘eleven players one of which is identifiable as the goalkeeper.’ So no captain required, apparently.
When I was playing soccer as a kid, we usually didn’t bother with the bands at all. Instead we used a colored velcro sockstopper of just a couple of strips of masking tape around the upper arm.
More fallout on Native American mascots for high schools in Wisconsin:
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I like the AFL stuff, but I want to say the Patriots gear is inaccurate. The original Pat Patriot’s face was different than the one on the helmet they’re showing, the expression was for lack of better words, “psychopath/’roid rage”. Wish they would wear the tricorn w/number helmet too. Also, with the Marlins taking the Miami name, new unis possible?
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Your comment about the Pittsburgh soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold.
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I lived in Pittsburgh when the Spirit were playing. They made a big deal about the fact that they were the only city to have four teams wearing the same colors. This was shortly after the Penguins also switched to Black and Gold.
But then we got the . . . . . Pittsburgh Maulers:
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always loved the maulers logo! that would have looked sharp in black & gold![/quote]
Ah, the Maulers. I remember how the team was spinning how great things were going to be because they sold out their home opener.
Too bad it was against the Birmingham Stallions, the squad that QB Cliff Stoudt jumped ship to join.
That sellout crowd was there to pelt him with snowballs. They never drew anything close to that again.
I may have mentioned it before, but there was a story in the Pittsburgh Press that was telling the woes of the squad and they created a version of that logo with the steelworker banging himself in the helmet with the hammer.
I’m going to have to check microfilm archives of the Press to find that. It was very well done.
[quote comment=”319312″]aren’t the old AFL teams playing two “throwback” uni games? if so, might the scheduling geniuses have given all teams wearing them both a home and away game, and therefore, they could wear both a white and a color jersey? (even tho some of the jerseys shown were white and some were in color, does it necessarily follow the white-wearing teams will only be the away teams to the color-wearing home teams?)
i haven’t seen the schedule for next year, just going on my rapidly failing memory that the orig. 8 would be playing 2 games in retro unis…and figure the NFL would love the marketing opportunities inherent in offering the public two new jerseys to purchase…but i could be wrong[/quote]
From the article:
The NFL will highlight the 50th anniversary of those teams during “Legacy Games” throughout the 2009 season. During one home and one road game, former AFL teams will meet head-to-head while wearing their chosen historic uniforms.
I assume they’d have home and road unis. And the schedule wouldn’t be hard to set up, given that most of these teams share the same two divisions, and Tennessee plays against the AFC East this season.
now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015
[quote comment=”319336″]Also, with the Marlins taking the Miami name, new unis possible?[/quote]
Yes, that much has been confirmed.
The Flyers have started a tradition of the player of the game wearing an old timey trucker’s hat for post-game interviews.
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(sigh) Major goofs are that the Chargers, Raiders, Bills and Patriots are not their original 1960 uniforms. Pats’ problem, largely, is the absence of the three-corner-hat helmet logo.
Can’t tell about NY Titans. They should be sans shoulder loops and absent any white at all (on homes, or course).
Others are just flat-out the wrong years and wrong color schemes. Charger lightning bolts didn’t become gold, and the blue anything other than dark royal, until the franchise moved to SD in’61. Raiders colors were black and light gold 1960, ’61 and ’62. Bills’ were silver and royal for the first two seasons, with no helmet logo, just player’s number on sides.
Typical half-assed, revisionist history from the NFL.
Actually, I really don’t CARE whether they get it right. Just pointing out that, as expected, they didn’t.
As to the Missouri blowhard bitching about using the state of Texas on the Chiefs helmet: Get life, dickhead. You don’t change history just cuz it suits you. Oh, wait, this is the NFL. You CAN do that. Never mind, go ahead, run your mouth all you want.
That’s why we’ll let the Bronco players vote on whether or not they wear the vertical striped socks. Jesus, whatta bunch of babies. I’ll say it again, part of the fun of these throwbacks IS that so of them are so ugly. How low does your IQ have to be that you don’t GET that element of it?
—Ricko
[quote comment=”319334″][quote comment=”319329″][quote comment=”319321″][quote comment=”319315″][quote comment=”319311″]I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.[/quote]
i’ve seen it in mens soccer too. i think part of it is most players aren’t used to having something on their arm, so it feels a little restricting. and you don’t have to worry about readjusting it all the time.[/quote]
It’s not an uncommon thing, I have seen girls wear them on their arm,legs even once a girl wore it a choker necklace, they want to stand out pretty much.[/quote]
Those captain bands are insanely large. I used to get them for my JV HS boys and if they wanted to wear them around their arms, they’d have to sew them to size. At least one player I had wore it in the same way as that photo…[/quote]
I was pretty sure that the FIFA soccer rules called for the captain to wear a band around his arm. Looked it up in their ‘laws of the game’ (Fifa.com). Interestingly the captain is mentioned a couple of times (toss at the start of the game among other), but the composition of the team states no more than ‘eleven players one of which is identifiable as the goalkeeper.’ So no captain required, apparently.
When I was playing soccer as a kid, we usually didn’t bother with the bands at all. Instead we used a colored velcro sockstopper of just a couple of strips of masking tape around the upper arm.[/quote]
NFHS (governing rules for high school) require arm bands be worn on the arm.
Wow, those colorized photos are great! Really makes the pictures and their subjects come alive. Great work, Larry!
A’s will pay tribute to fallen officers.
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“The team will hold a moment of silence before today’s game against the White Sox and there were discussions about whether the players might honor the officers in some way on their uniforms. I’m told there will be more formal recognition of the officers during the home opener on April 10, with some kind of ceremony.”
It should be interesting to see what they do.
[quote comment=”319344″]Wow, those colorized photos are great! Really makes the pictures and their subjects come alive. Great work, Larry![/quote]
Agreed. Really interesting, extremely well done.
LOL. Maybe try some 1960 AFL. Get it more accurate than the NFL did.
—Ricko
For the record, I wasn’t the first to call for a retro bonfire yesterday in the comments. Quite a few UniWatchers did the same and there were also some in The Denver Post’s blog comments on the uniform.
I love the Broncos’ throwbacks. Brown and gold is a great color combination, sadly underutilized.
If I didn’t hate the Broncos with a burning passion, I’d be all over that merchandise.
[quote comment=”319331″]Hey Paul,
Yeah I found it amusing that Deadspin wrote about our meat brackets. Some of my readers were definitely pissed at you, but I tried to keep a level head about it. I said a few times in the comments on my blog that I am by no means taking credit for having come up with the idea, although certainly it was unfortunate timing that your column went up a week after my tournament started. As I said, you’re welcome to head over to So Good and weigh in with your vote for any of our future Meat Madness match-ups.
Jon
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Classy response, Jon. Thanks for posting here.
[quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
i assure you, the pirates will still be re-building! but hey… we have sleeves on our jerseys now just like all our past champions!
I found this sweet picture of some fourth grade soccer players. This was sometime in the early 1970s and I think the kids were all born around ’66 or ’67. I played soccer in the ’70s too but don’t remember ever wearing stirrups:
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Ooops. One other thing. Oilers never wore those rounded arabic numerals in powder blue on the road. Only wore the arabic that one season (1960), and the road numbers (as well as the three stripes on their high white road socks) were red with a powder blue edge.
—Ricko
It’s amusing that Deadspin (with their closed commenting format) chooses to complain about accuracy, given their pathetic response to the Duke Lacrosse case.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Are the Red Sox new road uniforms going to include the red piping on the pants? You wouldn’t think so, b/c the jersey has no piping at all. but they were wearing the red stripe on their pants last night. Are they just wearing last year’s gray pants for spring training?
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[quote comment=”319354″]Are the Red Sox new road uniforms going to include the red piping on the pants? You wouldn’t think so, b/c the jersey has no piping at all. but they were wearing the red stripe on their pants last night. Are they just wearing last year’s gray pants for spring training?
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Good spot. My understanding is that the road pants will not have piping.
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Your comment about the Pittsburgh soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold.
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I lived in Pittsburgh when the Spirit were playing. They made a big deal about the fact that they were the only city to have four teams wearing the same colors. This was shortly after the Penguins also switched to Black and Gold.
But then we got the . . . . . Pittsburgh Maulers:
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always loved the maulers logo! that would have looked sharp in black & gold![/quote]
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With the white caps, blue jerseys, white pants down to their shoe-tops and white shoes, the North Carolina players look like Smurfs.
You got that, Lisa Horne? link is a Smurf-like look. link is not.
[quote comment=”319347″]For the record, I wasn’t the first to call for a retro bonfire yesterday in the comments. Quite a few UniWatchers did the same and there were also some in The Denver Post’s blog comments on the uniform.[/quote]
I say it yet again…part of the fun of some of these throwback IS that they’re so damn ugly; how low does someone’s IQ have to be for them to not GET that element of it?
Does anyone really think those powder blue & light gold Eagles unis are great-looking? Of COURSE they’re garish and bizarre. That’s the friggin’ POINT. “Look what the Eagles actually wore once upon a time. Ugggggg-ly.” Yeah. Duh.
Not aimed at you Mr. Craven, of course…I am just amazed at the number of folks out there who evidently have cottage cheese for brains (then again, I’m the one who often points there sure are a lot of people who aren’t smart enough to know how dumb they are).
—Ricko
I think it is criminal that the Pats won’t be going with the Tri-corner hat helmets for at least one game. Criminal!
[quote comment=”319346″][quote comment=”319344″]Wow, those colorized photos are great! Really makes the pictures and their subjects come alive. Great work, Larry![/quote]
Agreed. Really interesting, extremely well done.
LOL. Maybe try some 1960 AFL. Get it more accurate than the NFL did.
—Ricko[/quote]
Larry’s colorized prints are the best I’ve seen anywhere. Astonishing technique, great selection of subjects. My little Epson printer is wheezing away. Congratulations, and many thanks.
PAUL — OK, Let’s see. Barber chair, check. Parking meter, check. But what is Andy Varipella (sp?) endorsing up on your wall? And what is Joe College saying in that Pabst ad? Great room.
[quote comment=”319359″]I think it is criminal that the Pats won’t be going with the Tri-corner hat helmets for at least one game. Criminal![/quote]
Leave it to the Patriots to cover something up from their past!!
ps: Remember, they always could have gone with this!
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[quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.
[quote comment=”319358″][quote comment=”319347″]For the record, I wasn’t the first to call for a retro bonfire yesterday in the comments. Quite a few UniWatchers did the same and there were also some in The Denver Post’s blog comments on the uniform.[/quote]
I say it yet again…part of the fun of some of these throwback IS that they’re so damn ugly; how low does someone’s IQ have to be for them to not GET that element of it?
Does anyone really think those powder blue & light gold Eagles unis are great-looking? Of COURSE they’re garish and bizarre. That’s the friggin’ POINT. “Look what the Eagles actually wore once upon a time. Ugggggg-ly.” Yeah. Duh.
Not aimed at you Mr. Craven, of course…I am just amazed at the number of folks out there who evidently have cottage cheese for brains (then again, I’m the one who often points there sure are a lot of people who aren’t smart enough to know how dumb they are).
—Ricko[/quote]
Did Brewers fans/Milwaukee sports radio hosts get pissed off when the team wore Braves throwbacks when they were playing Atlanta?
I guess it’s apples vs. oranges, because they were Milwaukee Braves throwbacks, but still, they were honoring their opponent’s franchise history.
Not defending the radio guys in KC, but how come you all rag on them about their opinions, but then Ricko gets his panties in a bunch because all the AFL throwbacks don’t meet his standards – get life.
[quote comment=”319360″]PAUL — OK, Let’s see. Barber chair, check. Parking meter, check.[/quote]
The 1967 Coke machine is in another room.
[quote comment=”319360″]But what is Andy Varipella (sp?) endorsing up on your wall?[/quote]
Hamm’s beer. I really like the cultural intersection of bowling and beer, so I’ve got a lot of bowling-themed beer ads all over the apartment.
I’m in between power bumps here, so bear with me for a few seconds.
Whoever stole that curling sweater should be shot.
That is all. Also, if you happen to roll past my blog as a reader, there was no update yesterday. That’s due to the fact that I haven’t had power at my house for about 12 hours now. Last night was a chilly sleep.
Anyway, before we lose power here at work again, I’ll be around (hopefully) later. :o)
[quote comment=”319364″]Not defending the radio guys in KC, but how come you all rag on them about their opinions, but then Ricko gets his panties in a bunch because all the AFL throwbacks don’t meet his standards – get “a” life.[/quote]
…and don’t forget grammar…
[quote comment=”319364″]Not defending the radio guys in KC, but how come you all rag on them about their opinions, but then Ricko gets his panties in a bunch because all the AFL throwbacks don’t meet his standards – get life.[/quote]
A) Ricko’s gripes are legitimate.
B) He’s got his panties in a bunch? Really? He clearly stated that he doesn’t care about the inaccuracies.
Does anyone really think those powder blue & light gold Eagles unis are great-looking? Of COURSE they’re garish and bizarre. That’s the friggin’ POINT. “Look what the Eagles actually wore once upon a time. Ugggggg-ly.” Yeah. Duh.
I was thinking the same thing. Denver’s vertically-striped socks: Goofy? Yes. Ugly? Yes. Worse than Philly’s powder blue & golds? Nope.
[quote comment=”319367″][quote comment=”319364″]Not defending the radio guys in KC, but how come you all rag on them about their opinions, but then Ricko gets his panties in a bunch because all the AFL throwbacks don’t meet his standards – get “a” life.[/quote]
…and don’t forget grammar…[/quote]
Read the comments – just quoting Ricko
[quote comment=”319368″][quote comment=”319364″]Not defending the radio guys in KC, but how come you all rag on them about their opinions, but then Ricko gets his panties in a bunch because all the AFL throwbacks don’t meet his standards – get life.[/quote]
A) Ricko’s gripes are legitimate.
B) He’s got his panties in a bunch? Really? He clearly stated that he doesn’t care about the inaccuracies.[/quote]
If he doesn’t care, then why comment?
I don’t understand why all of you disciples think your opinions are the only ones that are valid, and everyone else is a dickhead or has cottage cheese for brains.
Ricko,
The Bronco bonfire thing isn’t a call to action to get rid of the ugly throwbacks.
It’s part of the whole fun. See, when the Broncos finally got rid of the infamous socks, the city actually had a public burning of them. That is why only a few pairs are left.
[quote comment=”319322″]Regarding Kansas City, not only did KC “adopt” the Kings & the A’s, but they were about a gnat’s eyelash away from taking the Penguins in the NHL just a few short years ago![/quote]
More importanly, Kansas City already had an NHL team they couldn’t handle. The Kansas City Scouts.
I wonder, if Steve Prefontaine knew that his image would be WHORED OUT posthumously by Nike as much as it has been, if he would have ever agreed to wear Nike shoes in the first place.
[quote comment=”319371″][quote comment=”319368″][quote comment=”319364″]Not defending the radio guys in KC, but how come you all rag on them about their opinions, but then Ricko gets his panties in a bunch because all the AFL throwbacks don’t meet his standards – get life.[/quote]
A) Ricko’s gripes are legitimate.
B) He’s got his panties in a bunch? Really? He clearly stated that he doesn’t care about the inaccuracies.[/quote]
If he doesn’t care, then why comment?
I don’t understand why all of you disciples think your opinions are the only ones that are valid, and everyone else is a dickhead or has cottage cheese for brains.[/quote]
lets keep this civil shall we?
ricko’s opinions are no more valid than yours because they are opinions…
the fact that many of us share those opinions (and shock…may have had them without ricko)…doesn’t make anyone on here one of ricko’s disciples
[quote comment=”319356″][quote comment=”319333″][quote comment=”319330″]———————
Your comment about the Pittsburgh soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold.
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I lived in Pittsburgh when the Spirit were playing. They made a big deal about the fact that they were the only city to have four teams wearing the same colors. This was shortly after the Penguins also switched to Black and Gold.
But then we got the . . . . . Pittsburgh Maulers:
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always loved the maulers logo! that would have looked sharp in black & gold![/quote]
Say no more… link
AWESOME! thank you!
[quote comment=”319343″][quote comment=”319334″][quote comment=”319329″][quote comment=”319321″][quote comment=”319315″][quote comment=”319311″]I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.[/quote]
i’ve seen it in mens soccer too. i think part of it is most players aren’t used to having something on their arm, so it feels a little restricting. and you don’t have to worry about readjusting it all the time.[/quote]
It’s not an uncommon thing, I have seen girls wear them on their arm,legs even once a girl wore it a choker necklace, they want to stand out pretty much.[/quote]
Those captain bands are insanely large. I used to get them for my JV HS boys and if they wanted to wear them around their arms, they’d have to sew them to size. At least one player I had wore it in the same way as that photo…[/quote]
I was pretty sure that the FIFA soccer rules called for the captain to wear a band around his arm. Looked it up in their ‘laws of the game’ (Fifa.com). Interestingly the captain is mentioned a couple of times (toss at the start of the game among other), but the composition of the team states no more than ‘eleven players one of which is identifiable as the goalkeeper.’ So no captain required, apparently.
When I was playing soccer as a kid, we usually didn’t bother with the bands at all. Instead we used a colored velcro sockstopper of just a couple of strips of masking tape around the upper arm.[/quote]
NFHS (governing rules for high school) require arm bands be worn on the arm.[/quote]
in my experiences (played high school, mom is a high school ref) this is a rule that isn’t really enforced. most teams don’t have captains bands at all.
[quote comment=”319376″]I wonder, if Steve Prefontaine knew that his image would be WHORED OUT posthumously by Nike as much as it has been, if he would have ever agreed to wear Nike shoes in the first place.[/quote]
i had a pair of the nike prefontaines last year… i think he designed a shoe for nike way back in the day, and they found his old sketches and made the shoe.
i’m NOT a nike-hater, for the record…
i bought the prefontaines, and at first they were light and comfortable. i wore them for about 7-8 months and ended up HATING the shoes. the material they were made of showed dirt like crazy, i was always cleaning them. water ran right through them, so i couldn’t wear them in the rain. and they were just really hot shoes. my feet would roast in them.
i went through the process on nike.com. told them why i hated the shoe (in a kind “can you help a brotha out” kinda way). sent them back into nike, and nike gladly refunded my money with a voucher for nike.com.
Did someone mention link?
To keep this uni-related, anyone know what link was?
Seems to me that the KC throwbacks “controversy” is pretty much a sportsradio-style ratings gimmick. Too much time with too few real subjects of interest-they have to make something up. And its the “throw everything against the wall and see what sticks” mantra.
I’d say the only reason it gets the slightest amount of traction is that it’s the Texans. If the team named “Cowboys” had migrated up to KC in the early 1960’s instead of the Texans, then this fall there would be a star on the helmets, everyone in KC would buy some retro gear, and life would go on.
I just hope Houston keeps its NFL team for the indefinite future… :-)
BTW, the Chicago Tribune has a Sweet Sixteen uniform bracket today. So those who are so inclined can rail on THEM for ripping off this blog. :-)
[quote comment=”319384″]Seems to me that the KC throwbacks “controversy” is pretty much a sportsradio-style ratings gimmick. Too much time with too few real subjects of interest-they have to make something up. And its the “throw everything against the wall and see what sticks” mantra.
I’d say the only reason it gets the slightest amount of traction is that it’s the Texans. If the team named “Cowboys” had migrated up to KC in the early 1960’s instead of the Texans, then this fall there would be a star on the helmets, everyone in KC would buy some retro gear, and life would go on.
I just hope Houston keeps its NFL team for the indefinite future… :-)[/quote]
The funny thing about the radio guy’s petition is that if you select option #3, you’re essentially just keeping the current Chiefs uni since it hasn’t really had any major changes in decades.
Exhibit A
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Exhibit B (btw, still underrated as one of the better football games ever)
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Exhibit C
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A testament to a classic uni perhaps?
[quote comment=”319360″][quote comment=”319346″][quote comment=”319344″]Wow, those colorized photos are great! Really makes the pictures and their subjects come alive. Great work, Larry![/quote]
Agreed. Really interesting, extremely well done.
LOL. Maybe try some 1960 AFL. Get it more accurate than the NFL did.
—Ricko[/quote]
Larry’s colorized prints are the best I’ve seen anywhere. Astonishing technique, great selection of subjects. My little Epson printer is wheezing away. Congratulations, and many thanks.
PAUL — OK, Let’s see. Barber chair, check. Parking meter, check. But what is Andy Varipella (sp?) endorsing up on your wall? And what is Joe College saying in that Pabst ad? Great room.[/quote]
I’m with Wes, Ricko & Connie, those colorized photos are astonishingly great! The best I’ve ever seen.
Andy Varipapa was fantastic. One of the best ambassadors bowling’s ever had.
Go to You Tube and do a search. His trick shots are amazing.
[quote comment=”319385″]BTW, the Chicago Tribune has a Sweet Sixteen uniform bracket today. So those who are so inclined can rail on THEM for ripping off this blog. :-)[/quote]
oh sure…i was gonna do that as a column for this weekend (only it would have been a “great eight” since that’s all that would be left by saturday)…so i guess i should make sure to google the shit out of that concept, just to make sure they’re the first and only ones to have ever come up with a “uni bracket”…
*heads back to drawing board and in head pens nasty letter to the Trib*
[quote comment=”319388″][quote comment=”319385″]BTW, the Chicago Tribune has a Sweet Sixteen uniform bracket today. So those who are so inclined can rail on THEM for ripping off this blog. :-)[/quote]
oh sure…i was gonna do that as a column for this weekend (only it would have been a “great eight” since that’s all that would be left by saturday)…so i guess i should make sure to google the shit out of that concept, just to make sure they’re the first and only ones to have ever come up with a “uni bracket”…
*heads back to drawing board and in head pens nasty letter to the Trib*[/quote]
We can still do the Frozen Four as opposed to the Hardwood Four. :o)
Power seems to be holding… for now.
I listened to that rant by the KC radio guy yesterday on my way home from work. I really think that his good points points were that it may be confusing to people that the Texans were once in Dallas but a new franchise started in Houston. Also that the Texans were only in Dallas for 2 seasons and other teams got to pick their legacy jersey – don’t know if that is true, but facts don’t matter sometimes.
I guess for me, I do think it is neat that the throwbacks will be shown in Dallas. I would like to think the Texans helmet honors the Hunt family more than it does disrespecting KC.
[quote comment=”319361″][quote comment=”319359″]I think it is criminal that the Pats won’t be going with the Tri-corner hat helmets for at least one game. Criminal![/quote]
Leave it to the Patriots to cover something up from their past!!
ps: Remember, they always could have gone with this!
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Holy crap, that’s ugly!
[quote comment=”319389″][quote comment=”319388″][quote comment=”319385″]BTW, the Chicago Tribune has a Sweet Sixteen uniform bracket today. So those who are so inclined can rail on THEM for ripping off this blog. :-)[/quote]
oh sure…i was gonna do that as a column for this weekend (only it would have been a “great eight” since that’s all that would be left by saturday)…so i guess i should make sure to google the shit out of that concept, just to make sure they’re the first and only ones to have ever come up with a “uni bracket”…
*heads back to drawing board and in head pens nasty letter to the Trib*[/quote]
We can still do the Frozen Four as opposed to the Hardwood Four. :o)
Power seems to be holding… for now.[/quote]
If it’s any consolation, the Trib’s thing is a piece of shit. But that’s just my opinion. link.
[quote comment=”319388″]oh sure…i was gonna do that as a column for this weekend (only it would have been a “great eight” since that’s all that would be left by saturday)…so i guess i should make sure to google the shit out of that concept, just to make sure they’re the first and only ones to have ever come up with a “uni bracket”…
*heads back to drawing board and in head pens nasty letter to the Trib*[/quote]
he he… :-)
FWLIW-this isn’t the first year they’ve done something like this. The ratings are done by fashion design students or people like that.
[quote comment=”319392″]If it’s any consolation, the Trib’s thing is a piece of shit. But that’s just my opinion. link.[/quote]
One statement I’ll give them credit for is their criticism of Syracuse for using gray numerals.
[quote comment=”319367″][quote comment=”319364″]Not defending the radio guys in KC, but how come you all rag on them about their opinions, but then Ricko gets his panties in a bunch because all the AFL throwbacks don’t meet his standards – get “a” life.[/quote]
…and don’t forget grammar…[/quote]
Look at it this way: If that collection of unis appeared in a movie about the first year of the AFL, we would be criticizing the snot out of the producers for their inaccuracies. But because it’s the NFL (or our favorite team and we don’t want them to look ugly), we should take it easy on them?
I just think not giving a lot of people a chance to see some uniforms (good or bad) in color that were never seen on color TV–and rarely in color photographs–is a real opportunity wasted.
And I WAS remiss in not saying that if a latter day Broncos throwback bonfire were done tongue-in-cheek, it would be fun and funny, and a perfect throwback occasion.
Yeah, I left out the “a” in “get a life”. That’s not bad grammar, that’s a typo (neither is acceptable, but they aren’t the same thing).
—Ricko
[quote comment=”319386″]…A testament to a classic uni perhaps?[/quote]And to that I’d say AMEN!
Love the idea that they’ve got a great idea and they aren’t screwing with it for the sake of greater sales of t-shirts, etc. I think its great that you can look at games from the Madden/Stram eras and compare them to a game today and the uni’s are virtually identical.
I wish more teams would be this way. (And I’m looking at YOU, Broncos. Nothing wrong with the “Luv ya Orange” era that Elway started his career with.)
Here’s to the Chargers wearing these beauties on Monday Night Football
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Or playing here:
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It’s a high school stadium now.
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[quote comment=”319369″]Does anyone really think those powder blue & light gold Eagles unis are great-looking? Of COURSE they’re garish and bizarre. That’s the friggin’ POINT. “Look what the Eagles actually wore once upon a time. Ugggggg-ly.” Yeah. Duh.
[/quote]
Well, I do think they’re great-looking.
But I conceed the larger point.
[quote comment=”319397″]Here’s to the Chargers wearing these beauties on Monday Night Football
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Or playing here:
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It’s a high school stadium now.
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Don’t get me wrong, that’s a very nice HS stadium, just hard to believe that it was once a pro venue, shows how times change and things evolve.
I liked that USFL link that showed the Maulers practicing in Cupples Stadium (nee South Stadium), where the Pittsburgh City League plays their football and soccer and runs track. Again, great venue for HS, odd to see pros using it.
On a completely unrelated note–
They should have put a Yankees logo on the kimono. Or made it pinstriped. Ya know, alternates for playing in Japan! Maybe once they open the park…
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I am so jazzed that the Broncos are going to be wearing their 1960 gear this season, complete with the socks. It may look goofy, but it will also be awesome. I wish the Bills and the Raiders would go back to their unfamiliar looking original unis too, but I can see why they chose the unis they did. Of course I’m also one of approximately ten people in the world who liked the Eagles blue and yellow and the Canadiens barber pole jerseys. I guess I’m just a fan of random old school crap.
Also, the guy colorizing the old photos deserves some big time props. Cool stuff.
[quote comment=”319394″]One statement I’ll give them credit for is their criticism of Syracuse for using gray numerals.[/quote]
Fair criticism, but Purdue’s black lettering on black background is worse.
I would like to reiterate my extreme distaste for this new trend of basketball jerseys with no trim. It makes them look like crappy undershirts, especially white home jerseys.
But can anyone make sense of the Tribune site? It seems totally broken to me. It seems the only matchup I can access is the Syracuse-Purdue, and the “story” is a bunch of seemingly random comments with no context.
Thanks for bringing to the country’s attention the ramblings we have to put up with in KC. KK gets upset over something like this all the time. His biggest issue was refurbishing the current stadiums rather than move downtown (something the teams did not want to do), so his real estate holdings downtown would increase in value. Crap like this, plus the mayor not wanting the teams, with drive them out of town. And to be fair, Charlie O Finley (A’s) was good riddance, the Scouts were stocked with minor leaguers and never given a chance to compete, and the Kings were going no matter what.
And the Eagles yellow and blue look better than the the black and green they wear now. Bring back the Jaws era unis.
Non uni-related post
Watching the Tigers-Mets ST game on MLBN. Mets announcers are awful. How do you stand it?
[quote comment=”319383″]Did someone mention link?
To keep this uni-related, anyone know what link was?[/quote]
God bless you, Squiddle. What a man!
[quote comment=”319406″]Non uni-related post
Watching the Tigers-Mets ST game on MLBN. Mets announcers are awful. How do you stand it?[/quote]
who’s on today? keith and ronnie?
keith is AW-FUCKIN-FUL, ronnie’s pretty good actually, as far as color guys go…pay attention, cuz the immortal ralph kiner may drop in, and he’s old now, and sounds drunk (he’s got some disease) but he’s still of sound mind…
as far as the PBP goes, gary cohen is fair-to-midland…and burkhardt (sp) is pretty decent for “in the bleachers” type of stuff
/but it’s hard man…(standing it that is)
[quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
YES! That is exactly what I thought when I first heard they were becoming the Miami Marlins. We need to make a push to get the Marlins to switch over to the AL! Maybe one team can agree to switch with the Marlins, at least temporarily for the 2015 season to make this dream possible.
I love the Back to the Future series. Maybe it will prove be as prophetic as it was brilliant.
Aw, hell, you’re right. I do care. I really hoped the NFL would do this whole thing properly and with a genuine sense of history. It would have been a real treat, a glimpse into another era, much like the enjoyment we get when someone discovers vintage color game footage.
What a team wore in 1960 isn’t subjective, it’s objective…as objective as the game or season stats. Between them, Tom Flores and Babe Parilli threw 17 touchdown passes for the Raiders in 1960, that’s a fact. It’s also a fact that they threw them wearing what was, essentially, a black and light gold version of the Bears unis at the time.
The only people who ever saw those unis play in color, though, are those who attended the games. No regular season games of that AFL era were telecast in anything but black and white. And, I have yet to see a single color game action photo from a Raider home game during any of their first three seasons.
That’s what would have been fun to see…something no human has ever seen…those unis (along with the accurate Bills, Chargers, Oilers roads) playing on TV. In color.
I truly believe, as Uni Watchers, most of us would really have appreciated that bit of “time travel”. This would have been about our only chance. And we aren’t going to get it.
So, yeah, it’s frustrating.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”319408″][quote comment=”319406″]Non uni-related post
Watching the Tigers-Mets ST game on MLBN. Mets announcers are awful. How do you stand it?[/quote]
who’s on today? keith and ronnie?
keith is AW-FUCKIN-FUL, ronnie’s pretty good actually, as far as color guys go…pay attention, cuz the immortal ralph kiner may drop in, and he’s old now, and sounds drunk (he’s got some disease) but he’s still of sound mind…
as far as the PBP goes, gary cohen is fair-to-midland…and burkhardt (sp) is pretty decent for “in the bleachers” type of stuff
/but it’s hard man…(standing it that is)[/quote]
My early favorite is when they said that Placido Polanco was a “platoon-type guy” and finally got to play full time last year…even though PP played in more games in ’07.
It’s alright though…Tigers fans have to deal with Rod Allen. You know he is bad when they make a drinking game after him.
[quote comment=”319410″]Aw, hell, you’re right. I do care. I really hoped the NFL would do this whole thing properly and with a genuine sense of history. It would have been a real treat, a glimpse into another era, much like the enjoyment we get when someone discovers vintage color game footage.
What a team wore in 1960 isn’t subjective, it’s objective…as objective as the game or season stats. Between them, Tom Flores and Babe Parilli threw 17 touchdown passes for the Raiders in 1960, that’s a fact. It’s also a fact that they threw them wearing what was, essentially, a black and light gold version of the Bears unis at the time.
The only people who ever saw those unis play in color, though, are those who attended the games. No regular season games of that AFL era were telecast in anything but black and white. And, I have yet to see a single color game action photo from a Raider home game during any of their first three seasons.
That’s what would have been fun to see…something no human has ever seen…those unis (along with the accurate Bills, Chargers, Oilers roads) playing on TV. In color.
I truly believe, as Uni Watchers, most of us would really have appreciated that bit of “time travel”. This would have been about our only chance. And we aren’t going to get it.
So, yeah, it’s frustrating.
—Ricko[/quote]
Come on – how amazing would it be to see link take the field next season?
Anybody else think the green Nuggets jersey comes out looking a whole heck of a lot like a lazy repro of a Sonics jersey at first glance? Even the number font is pretty close; just missing the white band across the chest.
Speaking of the Indiana Hoosier candy-striped warm-up pants, where can someone purchase a pair? Or perhaps the fabric to do-it-myself.
I have scoured the internet to no avail.
Thanks.
Ricko: (I know this isn’t colored), but is this the Raider uni you described?
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[quote comment=”319361″][quote comment=”319359″]I think it is criminal that the Pats won’t be going with the Tri-corner hat helmets for at least one game. Criminal![/quote]
Leave it to the Patriots to cover something up from their past!!
ps: Remember, they always could have gone with this!
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Yikes…and I thought the Flying Elvis logo was atrocious.
I’m still holding out hope that someday they will create a uniform with the current look in the predominant red and white scheme from the 80’s. Best of both worlds.
In regards to the thievery of those gorgeous curling sweaters, perhaps there is a DIYer out there that could recreate one for the team. Sure, it wouldn’t be authentic, but that look just can’t be pushed aside.
I am a disciple of Ricko’s.
I am proud of that fact.
End of story.
Ricko is absolutely right on everything he is saying. I concur.
[quote comment=”319412″][quote comment=”319410″]Aw, hell, you’re right. I do care. I really hoped the NFL would do this whole thing properly and with a genuine sense of history. It would have been a real treat, a glimpse into another era, much like the enjoyment we get when someone discovers vintage color game footage.
What a team wore in 1960 isn’t subjective, it’s objective…as objective as the game or season stats. Between them, Tom Flores and Babe Parilli threw 17 touchdown passes for the Raiders in 1960, that’s a fact. It’s also a fact that they threw them wearing what was, essentially, a black and light gold version of the Bears unis at the time.
The only people who ever saw those unis play in color, though, are those who attended the games. No regular season games of that AFL era were telecast in anything but black and white. And, I have yet to see a single color game action photo from a Raider home game during any of their first three seasons.
That’s what would have been fun to see…something no human has ever seen…those unis (along with the accurate Bills, Chargers, Oilers roads) playing on TV. In color.
I truly believe, as Uni Watchers, most of us would really have appreciated that bit of “time travel”. This would have been about our only chance. And we aren’t going to get it.
So, yeah, it’s frustrating.
—Ricko[/quote]
Come on – how amazing would it be to see link take the field next season?[/quote]
Actually, that’s a 1960 or ’61 jersey, which is the set I’m talking about (no white on the ’62 homes; just a black jersey with light gold numbers and three light gold stripes, and a gold stripe added to the helmet).
But, yeah, and I thank you for such a great visual, Chance. That’s the look I’d like to see this fall.
How exactly, I ask, would it do the Raiders a disservice to play a couple games in those unis? Or is it simply that in the minds of some, the team didn’t exist until Al Davis arrived in ’63, bringing silver & black with him? Or is it that the Raiders were lousy back then? So what? This isn’t about whether they were winners or loser at first, it’s about that they’ve been around for 50 years.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”319415″]Ricko: (I know this isn’t colored), but is this the Raider uni you described?
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Yup. ’60 and ’61, with plain black odd helmets like the Bears. As a kid I thought they were shaped like Luden’s Cough Drops. So I still think of ’em as “Luden’s helmets,” LOL.
I’m way late to the discussion, but in your meat bracket… Hanger Steak got jobbed I tell ya! That’s final four material there.
Gotta eat it rare, though…
Thanks to all who enjoyed my colorized pictures. I do have fun trying to do them.
[quote comment=”319414″]Speaking of the Indiana Hoosier candy-striped warm-up pants, where can someone purchase a pair? Or perhaps the fabric to do-it-myself.
I have scoured the internet to no avail.
Thanks.[/quote]
How authentic do you want them?
Here’s an link
These actually look better because they don’t have the logos on them.
Game-worn ones will pop up on link now and again
the Denver Nuggets green jerseys summarized by me in one word:
Bleagh!!!!!!!!!
They look like they’re supporting Oscar the Grouch instead of environmental awareness
The Denver Broncos unis remind me of Jay Cutler in Vandy
Hopefully Cutler will choose to go with navy and yellow instead of white and black with a tinge of old gold. J!E!T!S! JETS! JETS! JETS!
[quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.
[quote comment=”319408″][quote comment=”319406″]Non uni-related post
Watching the Tigers-Mets ST game on MLBN. Mets announcers are awful. How do you stand it?[/quote]
who’s on today? keith and ronnie?
keith is AW-FUCKIN-FUL, ronnie’s pretty good actually, as far as color guys go…pay attention, cuz the immortal ralph kiner may drop in, and he’s old now, and sounds drunk (he’s got some disease) but he’s still of sound mind…
as far as the PBP goes, gary cohen is fair-to-midland…and burkhardt (sp) is pretty decent for “in the bleachers” type of stuff
/but it’s hard man…(standing it that is)[/quote]
Kevin Burkhardt and Keith Hernandez are calling the action today.
Cohen and Darling = great, Cohen, Darling and Hernandez = good and sometimes amusing, depending on what tangents Hernandez goes off on (sometimes it sounds like he never got off the coke), Cohen and Hernandez = meh, hit or miss (mostly miss), and any time Kiner drops in is great, because sometimes you get comedy gold.
Hernandez REALLY needs Darling and Cohen to play off of, though. They tend to rein him in a lot.
And imperfect as they may be, I appreciate the Mets broadcast team for their candor and the fact that they pull no punches and don’t sugarcoat what goes on in the field. As opposed to some of the hacks on YES or MSG. You want to hear some REALLY bad homer play-by-play, tune in a Yankees or Knicks game if you ever get a chance.
[quote comment=”319310″]Paul,
Those guys on that blog were pissed! WTF! HAHA! Those people are a special breed.[/quote]
i agree, i find the whole situation hysterical. and i would love love love to read the “eich” girls letter to paul. i am sure it isn’t the first one of those he has gotten, and i hope it is saved in a file with others throughout the years. i would love to knock down a couple beers, and read those for shits and giggles.
but, “those people are a special breed?” um, do you realize we blog about uniforms? everyone here is insane! and if we, as a group, thought someone was taking down paul or phil, we would fire up our tourches too.
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how did i know paul’s apt would look like that? love the 1987 advents.
Oops. Screwed up the second link. Let’s try again…
[quote comment=”319414″]Speaking of the Indiana Hoosier candy-striped warm-up pants, where can someone purchase a pair? Or perhaps the fabric to do-it-myself.
I have scoured the internet to no avail.
Thanks.[/quote]
How authentic do you want them?
Here’s an link
link because they don’t have the logos on them.
Game-worn ones will pop up on link now and again.
[quote comment=”319410″]What a team wore in 1960 isn’t subjective, it’s objective…as objective as the game or season stats. Between them, Tom Flores and Babe Parilli threw 17 touchdown passes for the Raiders in 1960, that’s a fact. It’s also a fact that they threw them wearing what was, essentially, a black and light gold version of the Bears unis at the time.[/quote]
According to the story, only two of the teams are wearing their 1960 uniforms (Broncos and Titams). Looks like teams were given their choice of which uni to wear. The Raiders will be wearing their 1963 uniforms. Don’t know if they’re accurate for 1963 or not, but I thought you should know.
[quote]Hopefully Cutler will choose to go with navy and yellow instead of white and black with a tinge of old gold. J!E!T!S! JETS! JETS! JETS![/quote]
i was always under the impression that players under contract didn’t get to choose the team they want to play for, but were instead actually, ya know, beholden to the team paying them, say $47.86 million, give or take
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So it IS possible to have the shoulder stripes to come at least CLOSE to going all the way around (see Chargers). Why can’t they do the same with the Pats (and Colts)?
And saying the process is different for SD than the others is lame. If it is important enough for one then why isn’t on the others?
[quote comment=”319426″][quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.[/quote]
No, it was 2015. Here’s the day’s paper (gotta squint to see the date of Oct 22, 2015):
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[quote comment=”319426″][quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.[/quote]
Nope — 2015. All the years visited in the trilogy end in 5: 1985, 1955, 2015, 1885.
[quote comment=”319434″][quote comment=”319426″][quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.[/quote]
Nope — 2015. All the years visited in the trilogy end in 5: 1985, 1955, 2015, 1885.[/quote]
How disappointing is it that life in 2015 will be NOTHING like it’s depicted in that movie?
I referee a lot of youth soccer games, and I frequently see the captain’s band (for girls, and even sometimes for boys) worn around the top of the socks. It gets less common as the kids get older though…you see it mostly with U-12 teams and under.
[quote comment=”319428″][quote comment=”319310″]Paul,
Those guys on that blog were pissed! WTF! HAHA! Those people are a special breed.[/quote]
i agree, i find the whole situation hysterical. and i would love love love to read the “eich” girls letter to paul. i am sure it isn’t the first one of those he has gotten, and i hope it is saved in a file with others throughout the years. i would love to knock down a couple beers, and read those for shits and giggles.
but, “those people are a special breed?” um, do you realize we blog about uniforms? everyone here is insane! and if we, as a group, thought someone was taking down paul or phil, we would fire up our tourches too.
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how did i know paul’s apt would look like that? love the 1987 advents.[/quote]
Great point about them being a “special breed”. Like we’re not?
Keep in mind, that as funny as that situation seems to us, it’s not exactly like some of the folks on here don’t do the same thing. Or have we forgotten how many times another website does a uni-related bit and the first comments are usually saying how Paul did it better and/or “what a Uniwatch ripoff”?
As much as we like to think that everyone on the planet reads Uniwatch, people can come up with their own ideas and not be ripping off someone else. Just like I believe Paul when he says he didn’t rip off the other guy’s meat bracket because he didn’t know about it, I believe that other sites can do uni-related columns and not rip off Uniwatch because they don’t know about the website.
[quote comment=”319423″]“(KC) was lucky enough to get the Kings/Royals from Cincinnati and the A’s from Philly and then didn’t support either team enough to keep them from relocating again”[/quote]
“(KC) was lucky enough to get the Kings/Royals from Cincinnati and the A’s from Philly and then didn’t support either team enough to keep them from relocating again”
Wow, pretty broad strokes there. Can’t speak for the basketball situation but KC was granted another franchise almost the minute after Finley took the payday in Oakland. I don’t think that would have been done if it wasn’t considered a more than viable baseball market. When a suitable owner and facility were in place, it was one of the best supported teams in the game.
[quote comment=”319365″][quote comment=”319360″]PAUL — OK, Let’s see. Barber chair, check. Parking meter, check.[/quote]
The 1967 Coke machine is in another room.
[quote comment=”319360″]But what is Andy Varipella (sp?) endorsing up on your wall?[/quote]
Hamm’s beer. I really like the cultural intersection of bowling and beer, so I’ve got a lot of bowling-themed beer ads all over the apartment.[/quote]
My question is whether the radiator in the photo is a real, working radiator or a souvenir/decoration of some sort.
[quote comment=”319430″][quote comment=”319410″]What a team wore in 1960 isn’t subjective, it’s objective…as objective as the game or season stats. Between them, Tom Flores and Babe Parilli threw 17 touchdown passes for the Raiders in 1960, that’s a fact. It’s also a fact that they threw them wearing what was, essentially, a black and light gold version of the Bears unis at the time.[/quote]
According to the story, only two of the teams are wearing their 1960 uniforms (Broncos and Titams). Looks like teams were given their choice of which uni to wear. The Raiders will be wearing their 1963 uniforms. Don’t know if they’re accurate for 1963 or not, but I thought you should know.[/quote]
’63 Raider home uni is basically the same as they wear today. Helmet logo is a a little different on the ’63’s.
The Oilers, on the road anyway, apparently get to wear a uniform they never wore at all (again, actual road numbers were red w/col.blue). If they’re wearing those arabic numbers at home and saying they are any year OTHER than 1960, they need to do some homework on their own past. Those were a one-year wonder. In fact, the only year of two-color numbers or two-color striped socks for the Oilers was 1960. Two-color numbers weren’t seen again until helmets and pants were changed to silver in late 60s.
So much for history and the objective elements.
[quote comment=”319435″][quote comment=”319434″][quote comment=”319426″][quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.[/quote]
Nope — 2015. All the years visited in the trilogy end in 5: 1985, 1955, 2015, 1885.[/quote]
How disappointing is it that life in 2015 will be NOTHING like it’s depicted in that movie?[/quote]
I don’t know – don’t think the world is really ready for Max Spielberg’s directing career.
[quote comment=”319435″][quote comment=”319434″][quote comment=”319426″][quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.[/quote]
Nope — 2015. All the years visited in the trilogy end in 5: 1985, 1955, 2015, 1885.[/quote]
How disappointing is it that life in 2015 will be NOTHING like it’s depicted in that movie?[/quote]
It will be disappointing because the technology will be so much better
I look forward to the AFL throwbacks this fall. The early days of the AFL is interesting. Even though the very first years uniforms may have bored some. It would be nice if at some point the teams did wear first year uniforms.
Too bad as already said that it is sometimes too hard for the NFL to get throwbacks right.
Still a good idea and glad they are doing it.
[quote comment=”319431″][quote]Hopefully Cutler will choose to go with navy and yellow instead of white and black with a tinge of old gold. J!E!T!S! JETS! JETS! JETS![/quote]
i was always under the impression that players under contract didn’t get to choose the team they want to play for, but were instead actually, ya know, beholden to the team paying them, say $47.86 million, give or take[/quote]
what I mean is that he will probably want to be traded to New York (kinda like what Hank Aaron did when he want to go to the Brewers) instead of being wooed by Josh McDaniels with some lame peace offering
I realize this probably says more about a talk radio blowhard who’d rather stir up phony outrage over a phony issue for an afternoon instead of actually thinking…..
Hey, you’ve perfectly described KC Radio Blowhard Kevin Keitzman! He knows three things: Kansas State University Wildcat athletics, how to take care of his sponsors, and stirring up phony outrage. This formula has made him a wealthy man, which does say something unfortunate about the local sports radio audience.
I think I speak for most Kansas Citians, apart from Keitzman and the rabid looney fringe of Chiefs fans, when I say this is not really a big deal.
Chiefs uniforms over the years have been a series of small adjustments to the striping, TV numbers, amount of gold trim, and the size of the arrowhead on the helmet. The only drama surrounded the current head coach’s feelings about red pants. At least the Texans’ look is something different.
One of the things I love about uniwatch is the attention to detail readers pay to even non-uni related stuff. Like when photos are posted, someone will always notice something in the background like today and photo of Paul’s apartment.
I’m the same way. I’m watching March Madness with my wife and I say “I can’t get over all the Vitamin Water advertising/product placement there is behind the benches. They must have paid a pretty penny for all that (the jugs, cups, squeeze bottles)
She’s just like “what are you talking about?”
[quote comment=”319444″][quote comment=”319431″][quote]Hopefully Cutler will choose to go with navy and yellow instead of white and black with a tinge of old gold. J!E!T!S! JETS! JETS! JETS![/quote]
i was always under the impression that players under contract didn’t get to choose the team they want to play for, but were instead actually, ya know, beholden to the team paying them, say $47.86 million, give or take[/quote]
he will probably want to be traded to New York (kinda like what Hank Aaron did when he want to go to the Brewers)…[/quote]
What?
[quote comment=”319400″]I liked that USFL link that showed the Maulers practicing in Cupples Stadium (nee South Stadium), where the Pittsburgh City League plays their football and soccer and runs track. Again, great venue for HS, odd to see pros using it.[/quote]
I know I’ve posted this before, but I’ll share again. During the 1984 season, the Maulers used a middle school in the Baldwin district of suburban Pittsburgh as their practice facility. The rent money went to building a new stadium for the high school. When the team folded, all the equipment (including the weight room) and uniforms were given to the district as well. Considering both the Maulers and Baldwin used purple as their color scheme, it kept those uniforms in use for a few extra seasons.
[quote comment=”319435″][quote comment=”319434″][quote comment=”319426″][quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.[/quote]
Nope — 2015. All the years visited in the trilogy end in 5: 1985, 1955, 2015, 1885.[/quote]
How disappointing is it that life in 2015 will be NOTHING like it’s depicted in that movie?[/quote]
I’m still waiting for a manned mission to Jupiter. The launch is 10 years behind schedule! How are we going to find any monoliths if we don’t get moving?!?!?
The NFL website says the Raiders will wear unforms from their 1963 season, with silver numbers on their white road jerseys. The 1963 Raiders wore gold numbers on their road jerseys, not silver. They didn’t wear silver numbers until 1970.
[quote comment=”319450″]The NFL website says the Raiders will wear unforms from their 1963 season, with silver numbers on their white road jerseys. The 1963 Raiders wore gold numbers on their road jerseys, not silver. They didn’t wear silver numbers until 1970.[/quote]
Nope. You’re going by old, hand-colored b&w photos on football cards or something. Upon his arrival in 1963, Al Davis changed the colors to silver and black, and the light gold immediately–and forever–disappeared.
Timmy B and others will corroborate that.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”319406″]Non uni-related post
Watching the Tigers-Mets ST game on MLBN. Mets announcers are awful. How do you stand it?[/quote]
Speaking of the Mets\Tigers game, Jonathan Malo of the Mets has NNOB, even though all of the other Mets do have an NOB.
[quote comment=”319449″][quote comment=”319435″][quote comment=”319434″][quote comment=”319426″][quote comment=”319362″][quote comment=”319339″]now all the Marlins have to do is jump to the AL and we can have that Cubs-Miami World Series in 2015[/quote]
Outstanding Back to the Future Part II, reference.[/quote]
In back to the future 2, the year was 2000, not 2015.[/quote]
Nope — 2015. All the years visited in the trilogy end in 5: 1985, 1955, 2015, 1885.[/quote]
How disappointing is it that life in 2015 will be NOTHING like it’s depicted in that movie?[/quote]
I’m still waiting for a manned mission to Jupiter. The launch is 10 years behind schedule! How are we going to find any monoliths if we don’t get moving?!?!?[/quote]
Let me get mine in there before Paul yells at us…
I don’t know about you guys but I’m opting for the hover package for my boring old road car. It’s only $39,999.95!
Ok, sorry, move along. This one is dead.
[quote comment=”319439″][quote comment=”319365″][quote comment=”319360″]PAUL — OK, Let’s see. Barber chair, check. Parking meter, check.[/quote]
The 1967 Coke machine is in another room.
[quote comment=”319360″]But what is Andy Varipella (sp?) endorsing up on your wall?[/quote]
Hamm’s beer. I really like the cultural intersection of bowling and beer, so I’ve got a lot of bowling-themed beer ads all over the apartment.[/quote]
My question is whether the radiator in the photo is a real, working radiator or a souvenir/decoration of some sort.[/quote]
C’mon–Brooklyn? It’s got to be real. Where would the cat sleep otherwise?
Pardon me for not reading the 143 posts above me. But in relation to the female high school player wearing the captains band on her sock rather than on her bicep; in high school or club soccer there is no defined rule. The captain can wear the band wherever it may be visible.
As for collegiate or professional soccer the band must be worn around the arm.
[quote comment=”319444″][quote comment=”319431″][quote]Hopefully Cutler will choose to go with navy and yellow instead of white and black with a tinge of old gold. J!E!T!S! JETS! JETS! JETS![/quote]
i was always under the impression that players under contract didn’t get to choose the team they want to play for, but were instead actually, ya know, beholden to the team paying them, say $47.86 million, give or take[/quote]
what I mean is that he will probably want to be traded to New York (kinda like what Hank Aaron did when he want to go to the Brewers) instead of being wooed by Josh McDaniels with some lame peace offering[/quote]
Maybe so, but where he wants to play and where (if anywhere) the Broncos will send him are two entirely different things.
Like LI Phil said, Cutler is under contract to the Broncos. They couldn’t care less where Cutler wants to go because he belongs to them. This isn’t the John Elway situation. The Broncos don’t have to trade Cutler and he only hurts himself if he sits out.
Although I will agree with one of your observations: Josh McDaniels handled this pretty badly to begin with. Not that it absolves Cutler of any of the primadonna-ish stuff he’s pulled, but if you tell a guy that he’s your guy and to trust you and then you turn around and try to get rid of him you can’t really be surprised if he’s less than thrilled with you afterward.
[quote comment=”319457″][quote comment=”319444″][quote comment=”319431″][quote]Hopefully Cutler will choose to go with navy and yellow instead of white and black with a tinge of old gold. J!E!T!S! JETS! JETS! JETS![/quote]
i was always under the impression that players under contract didn’t get to choose the team they want to play for, but were instead actually, ya know, beholden to the team paying them, say $47.86 million, give or take[/quote]
what I mean is that he will probably want to be traded to New York (kinda like what Hank Aaron did when he want to go to the Brewers) instead of being wooed by Josh McDaniels with some lame peace offering[/quote]
Maybe so, but where he wants to play and where (if anywhere) the Broncos will send him are two entirely different things.
Like LI Phil said, Cutler is under contract to the Broncos. They couldn’t care less where Cutler wants to go because he belongs to them. This isn’t the John Elway situation. The Broncos don’t have to trade Cutler and he only hurts himself if he sits out.
Although I will agree with one of your observations: Josh McDaniels handled this pretty badly to begin with. Not that it absolves Cutler of any of the primadonna-ish stuff he’s pulled, but if you tell a guy that he’s your guy and to trust you and then you turn around and try to get rid of him you can’t really be surprised if he’s less than thrilled with you afterward.[/quote]
Seriously, how is the Cutler situation akin to Aaron going back to Milwaukee?
not exactly uni-related, but looking for help.
I’m looking for either/both of the pictures of Shaq standing next to a player that is about half his height, and/or a similar picture of a Chicago Bear who is tiny compared to other guys in the picture. Thanks in advance.
[quote comment=”319401″]On a completely unrelated note–
They should have put a Yankees logo on the kimono. Or made it pinstriped. Ya know, alternates for playing in Japan! Maybe once they open the park…
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What??
NOBODY here has commented on his stunning lack of stirrups??
Well, if Cutler does come to the Jets (please please please)….I hope he doesn’t want to fight for his #6 (I don’t think our punter would mind giving it up)
[quote comment=”319459″]not exactly uni-related, but looking for help.
I’m looking for either/both of the pictures of Shaq standing next to a player that is about half his height, and/or a similar picture of a Chicago Bear who is tiny compared to other guys in the picture. Thanks in advance.[/quote]
Any random picture from Super Bowl XLI will do.
:-((((((
[quote comment=”319459″]not exactly uni-related, but looking for help.
I’m looking for either/both of the pictures of Shaq standing next to a player that is about half his height, and/or a similar picture of a Chicago Bear who is tiny compared to other guys in the picture. Thanks in advance.[/quote]
like this?
One other thing, don’t know if its been mentioned, is that the Broncos apparently only had the one jersey (the yellow) which they wore for home and road that first couple of seasons, which would make the white Cutler jersey that McDaniels is holding up not right. Makes me wonder if they’d pull the yellow jersey with brown numbers as a home jersey. I also personally think they SHOULD go with the striped socks, and go whole hog with it. Besides, it would make this guy a really big hit with his DYI look :)
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Also, the Jets 50th season logo is up….im a bit disappointed…
[quote comment=”319463″][quote comment=”319459″]not exactly uni-related, but looking for help.
I’m looking for either/both of the pictures of Shaq standing next to a player that is about half his height, and/or a similar picture of a Chicago Bear who is tiny compared to other guys in the picture. Thanks in advance.[/quote]
link?[/quote]
that is the one! Thanks Phil.
[quote comment=”319455″]My question is whether the radiator in the photo is a real, working radiator or a souvenir/decoration of some sort[/quote]
I was a bit curious about the windows. Are they real? If so, where is the security grating?
:-)
that should be DIY, dammit
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…Couldn’t a little white trim along the 5 & 0 …also a little border within the green oval…it just looks like a blob…
I really find it more and more disappointing the more I look @ it…it’s so uninspired…this is somewhere the Jets could have made an impact, but yet, they keep with that terrible font…should just stick with the classic NYJ (1960’s) font..
[quote comment=”319324″]Broncos will wear a brown helmet…wow not too many brown helmeted teams in recent memory.
The San Diego Padres use to wear Brown batting helmets,
the Toronto Maple Leafs had a one and done with their Green St Patricks unis, that had a brown helmet …. that’s all that comes to mind
The Broncos , for those games , should maybe get the guy who appears in the UPS commercials , to draw up some plays on the white board.[/quote]
Couple other crap-colored helmets in history…
San Antonio Riders (WLAF)
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Western Michigan
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University of Wyoming
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now dont get me wrong, i hate the chiefs as much as the next guy (GO BRONCOS!), but i can understand why some fans would be upset about the state of texas being on their helmets next season. i live in kansas so i got to hear alot of the sports talk radio discussion of this topic, and i have to agree that there seems to be some other more logical alternatives.
Grrrrr, just saw those images are blocked…Sorry
[quote comment=”319404″]But can anyone make sense of the Tribune site? It seems totally broken to me. It seems the only matchup I can access is the Syracuse-Purdue, and the “story” is a bunch of seemingly random comments with no context.[/quote]
The actual newspaper has a printed bracket showing picutres of each “winner” moving on, so it makes a tiny bit more sense than just reading the story off the website. Easy to see why newspapers are going downhill rapidly.
Highlights of the comments:
Missouri vs. Memphis
Despite using a postliterate nickname, Missouri’s gold rolls over Memphis, which looks like a bad astronaut uniform from the 1970s.
North Carolina vs. Gonzaga
Neither is headed for “Project Runway,” but Gonzaga’s holistic design trounces Tar Heels’ preppy affect and “tramp stamp,” a nickname on the shorts’ backside. UNC’s argyle piping says, “Stick around for the postgame a cappella show.”
Syracuse vs. Oklahoma
A blowout. In their home whites, anyway, the Orange’s hip, fresh and youthful design blows past the Sooners’ soporific look, straight off the shelf from the local sporting goods store.
Remember that Life magazine group shot of the NFL QBs from 1961?
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(Actually, it’s slightly different, but you gotta love those colors.)
[quote comment=”319464″]One other thing, don’t know if its been mentioned, is that the Broncos apparently only had the one jersey (the yellow) which they wore for home and road that first couple of seasons, which would make the white Cutler jersey that McDaniels is holding up not right. Makes me wonder if they’d pull the yellow jersey with brown numbers as a home jersey. I also personally think they SHOULD go with the striped socks, and go whole hog with it. Besides, it would make this guy a really big hit with his DYI look :)
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I thought I read the Broncos did not wear white? That throwback Denver picture is nice.
[quote comment=”319473″]The actual newspaper has a printed bracket showing picutres of each “winner” moving on, so it makes a tiny bit more sense than just reading the story off the website. Easy to see why newspapers are going downhill rapidly.[/quote]
Yep, actually, those headings were not there until I asked their man on Twitter (@triblive) for them, and he graciously obliged. As you say, though, still not very helpful without pics… I wrote back and requested those, as well.
KC doesn’t even have throwback unforms, they’ve had the same basic design forever. This is something different and it’s historic. Tell these blow hards to shut up. This is one of the rarest uniforms we will ever get to see.
By the way, will the Titans wear their old Oilers uniforms against the Houston Texans this season? I know that definitley wouldn’t be an old AFL matchup, but it seems too unique to pass up.
[quote comment=”319473″][quote comment=”319404″]But can anyone make sense of the Tribune site? It seems totally broken to me. It seems the only matchup I can access is the Syracuse-Purdue, and the “story” is a bunch of seemingly random comments with no context.[/quote]
The actual newspaper has a printed bracket showing picutres of each “winner” moving on, so it makes a tiny bit more sense than just reading the story off the website. Easy to see why newspapers are going downhill rapidly.
Highlights of the comments:
Missouri vs. Memphis
Despite using a postliterate nickname, Missouri’s gold rolls over Memphis, which looks like a bad astronaut uniform from the 1970s.
North Carolina vs. Gonzaga
Neither is headed for “Project Runway,” but Gonzaga’s holistic design trounces Tar Heels’ preppy affect and “tramp stamp,” a nickname on the shorts’ backside. UNC’s argyle piping says, “Stick around for the postgame a cappella show.”
Syracuse vs. Oklahoma
A blowout. In their home whites, anyway, the Orange’s hip, fresh and youthful design blows past the Sooners’ soporific look, straight off the shelf from the local sporting goods store.[/quote]
Dude, what section of the paper is that in? Or is it in the tabloid version?
[quote comment=”319451″][quote comment=”319450″]The NFL website says the Raiders will wear unforms from their 1963 season, with silver numbers on their white road jerseys. The 1963 Raiders wore gold numbers on their road jerseys, not silver. They didn’t wear silver numbers until 1970.[/quote]
Nope. You’re going by old, hand-colored b&w photos on football cards or something. Upon his arrival in 1963, Al Davis changed the colors to silver and black, and the light gold immediately–and forever–disappeared.
Timmy B and others will corroborate that.
—Ricko[/quote]
Ricko,
I’m sure you’re right, but this is what I was referencing:
Football Uniforms Past and Present
[quote comment=”319341″]The Flyers have started a tradition of the player of the game wearing an old timey trucker’s hat for post-game interviews.
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That is a very nice tradition. One that the Capitals have been doing since the start of the season. link (sorry I can’t find a current picture but stuck at work)
I grew up with the Chiefs and go back to the Len Dawson-Ben Davidson brouhaha. Still have it bad for the Raiders, though I remember this SI cover link and appreciating the simplicity of the Oakland uniform vs. the garishness of the Chiefs’ red pants.
Today, I’ve mellowed on the pants. The white mask helps.
According to this site, link the white has a plausible purpose.
All these years later, you have to admit that the Chiefs have a classic uniform that is underrated.
For what it’s worth, the things Lamar Hunt did for Kansas City cannot be overstated.
someone is willing to pay 41 bucks for that flushing shirt…wow.
[quote comment=”319481″]According to this site, link the white has a plausible purpose.[/quote]
I wouldn’t believe a word you read on that site. This site right here is the real, authentic last word.
:-)
[quote comment=”319478″]Dude, what section of the paper is that in? Or is it in the tabloid version?[/quote]
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In the real paper its in the section with the comics, movie listings, etc. Whatever the hell they’re calling it these days. For years it was Tempo but someone had a better idea…. :-(
[quote comment=”319476″]Yep, actually, those headings were not there until I asked their man on Twitter (@triblive) for them, and he graciously obliged. As you say, though, still not very helpful without pics… I wrote back and requested those, as well.[/quote]
I just laughed at the commentary. I don’t know if it was supposed to be a parody of a typical over-the-top fashionista, or if those were the real comments from their “judges”. Tramp stamp and “when does the a cappella concert start?” :-)
These are supposedly the new Lions uniforms and helmets incorporating the new logo.
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According to this radio show: link, the Minnesota Timberwolves gave out this poster:
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Notice anything wrong with that picture?
woves is me
[quote comment=”319448″][quote comment=”319400″]I liked that USFL link that showed the Maulers practicing in Cupples Stadium (nee South Stadium), where the Pittsburgh City League plays their football and soccer and runs track. Again, great venue for HS, odd to see pros using it.[/quote]
I know I’ve posted this before, but I’ll share again. During the 1984 season, the Maulers used a middle school in the Baldwin district of suburban Pittsburgh as their practice facility. The rent money went to building a new stadium for the high school. When the team folded, all the equipment (including the weight room) and uniforms were given to the district as well. Considering both the Maulers and Baldwin used purple as their color scheme, it kept those uniforms in use for a few extra seasons.[/quote]
I concur. My Brother actually played for Baldwin during the years that they wore the old Maulers jerseys. They actually kinda clashed with the helmets which were/still Purple and White. The orange in the jerseys just didn’t look right. Can’t find any photos right now, will keep looking.
[quote comment=”319488″]According to this radio show: link, the Minnesota Timberwolves gave out this poster:
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Notice anything wrong with that picture?[/quote]
Seems pretty “woven” into team history, no?
Were the Jets ever called the “Titans of New York” or is that just something recent to distinguish them from Tennessee?
Here is a link with the possible dates for the Rams throwbacks:
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[quote comment=”319491″]Seems pretty “woven” into team history, no?[/quote]
I thought they were just commenting on the bad attempt at copying the Obama poster, but you may have a point about the spelling too.
:-)
[quote comment=”319311″]I don’t know if it is because the armbands don’t fit girls or not, but the band on the calf is pretty common for girls around NC.[/quote]
The other thing you’ll notice is that girl soccer players also like to roll their sleeves up and sometimes will either tape or with velcro strap them up. (Presumably to not get tan lines?) Wear a captain’s armband
Puma tried putting out a sleeveless jersey for the 2002 World Cup with Cameroon (great marketing idea because I would bet lots of girls teams would snap them up), but FIFA disallowed them. The “controversy” on this has gone back and forth as to if they are going to be allowed. I’m not sure where it stands now.
Sorry, initial comment was sent too soon.
The other thing you’ll notice is that girl soccer players also like to roll their sleeves up and sometimes will either tape or with velcro strap them up. (Presumably to not get tan lines?) Wear a captain’s armband and you can’t roll up your sleeves. You can see a player in the background of the picture (top right corner) with her sleeves rolled up.
Puma tried putting out a sleeveless jersey for the 2002 World Cup with Cameroon (great marketing idea because I would bet lots of girls teams would snap them up), but FIFA disallowed them. The “controversy” on this has gone back and forth as to if they are going to be allowed. I’m not sure where it stands now.
For any of you who miss Vince’s writing, he’s landed here:
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Thanks for the Hoosier help, JTH!
(I did a quick skim and didn’t see this mentioned yet. My apologies if it has.)
I like that 7 of the 8 AFL coaches showed up for the photo. What a surprise that The Sweatshirt is the one that didn’t.
[quote comment=”319501″]I like that 7 of the 8 AFL coaches showed up for the photo. What a surprise that The Sweatshirt is the one that didn’t.[/quote]If there’s an award for best match between throwback helmet and coach, I’d like to nominate Jauron. No need for speed when a standing Buffalo will do just fine….
[quote comment=”319479″][quote comment=”319451″][quote comment=”319450″]The NFL website says the Raiders will wear unforms from their 1963 season, with silver numbers on their white road jerseys. The 1963 Raiders wore gold numbers on their road jerseys, not silver. They didn’t wear silver numbers until 1970.[/quote]
Nope. You’re going by old, hand-colored b&w photos on football cards or something. Upon his arrival in 1963, Al Davis changed the colors to silver and black, and the light gold immediately–and forever–disappeared.
Timmy B and others will corroborate that.
—Ricko[/quote]
Ricko,
I’m sure you’re right, but this is what I was referencing:
Football Uniforms Past and Present[/quote]
That site has a lot of errors in early AFL stuff, but hasn’t been undated for some time. I guess he’s working to get it back up to spped. I think TimmyB’s been working with him.
And, for the umpteenth time, the Broncos may have worn light gold on the road a couple times early-on, but they DID have white jerseys for both seasons of the brown-gold era, as well as brown-white socks to wear with them. The gold-only story is a Uni version of an old wives’ tale, designed to embellish stories of the shoestring nature of the early AFL. It’s total B.S. Oh, they were shoestring, alright. That part’s not B.S., but the one-jersey story is.
–Ricko
Not sure if this has been posted, but this should be interesting if these are for real next season. I can’t imagine United trotting out in these!
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[quote comment=”319432″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3383277122_07bd19a5d7_b.jpg
So it IS possible to have the shoulder stripes to come at least CLOSE to going all the way around (see Chargers). Why can’t they do the same with the Pats (and Colts)?
And saying the process is different for SD than the others is lame. If it is important enough for one then why isn’t on the others?[/quote]
The reason why the shoulder stripes don’t go all the way around on the Colts jerseys as compared to the SD jersey is because of where the stripes land. The SD stripes are farther out and actually run almost around the outside of the shoulder. However, the Colts/Pats stripes are higher up and thus hit a seam cutting off the stripes where we see them end.
[quote comment=”319503″]the Broncos may have worn light gold on the road a couple times early-on, but they DID have white jerseys for both seasons of the brown-gold era, as well as brown-white socks to wear with them. The gold-only story is a Uni version of an old wives’ tale, designed to embellish stories of the shoestring nature of the early AFL. It’s total B.S. Oh, they were shoestring, alright. That part’s not B.S., but the one-jersey story is.[/quote]
i think part of that old wives tale revolves around the link being yellow, so it link be worn on the link…very hard if not impossible to find color pics of the road unis, but like ricko says, they were indeed white
ricko or timmy brulia could also prolly tell ya that the unis were supposedly leftovers from the defunct ‘copper bowl’ (i think) and that jack faulkner was responsible for dumping the gold and brown in favor of the orange and blue…
and in a kind of running joke i have with ricko, NO…the broncos never wore link, which is another urban legend in the annals of bronco uni lore
[quote comment=”319490″]I concur. My Brother actually played for Baldwin during the years that they wore the old Maulers jerseys. [/quote]
And I went to Baldwin HS during that time. Who’s your brother?
[quote comment=”319492″]Were the Jets ever called the “Titans of New York” or is that just something recent to distinguish them from Tennessee?[/quote]
Nope, that’s how they link in the early days.
[quote comment=”319509″][quote comment=”319492″]Were the Jets ever called the “Titans of New York” or is that just something recent to distinguish them from Tennessee?[/quote]
Nope, that’s how they link in the early days.[/quote]
Yup, they christened themselves that for the ’61 season.
and in a kind of running joke i have with ricko, NO…the broncos never wore link, which is another urban legend in the annals of bronco uni lore[/quote]
link
[quote comment=”319511″]and in a kind of running joke i have with ricko, NO…the broncos never wore link, which is another urban legend in the annals of bronco uni lore[/quote]
link
oh…they wore the helmet with the pony, larry, but the horsey wasn’t BROWN…twas blue
[quote comment=”319507″][quote comment=”319503″]the Broncos may have worn light gold on the road a couple times early-on, but they DID have white jerseys for both seasons of the brown-gold era, as well as brown-white socks to wear with them. The gold-only story is a Uni version of an old wives’ tale, designed to embellish stories of the shoestring nature of the early AFL. It’s total B.S. Oh, they were shoestring, alright. That part’s not B.S., but the one-jersey story is.[/quote]
i think part of that old wives tale revolves around the link being yellow, so it link be worn on the link…very hard if not impossible to find color pics of the road unis, but like ricko says, they were indeed white
ricko or timmy brulia could also prolly tell ya that the unis were supposedly leftovers from the defunct ‘copper bowl’ (i think) and that jack faulkner was responsible for dumping the gold and brown in favor of the orange and blue…
and in a kind of running joke i have with ricko, NO…the broncos never wore link, which is another urban legend in the annals of bronco uni lore[/quote]
That was quote I meant to use by Phil.
link
[quote comment=”319512″][quote comment=”319511″]and in a kind of running joke i have with ricko, NO…the broncos never wore link, which is another urban legend in the annals of bronco uni lore[/quote]
link
oh…they wore the helmet with the pony, larry, but the horsey wasn’t BROWN…twas blue[/quote]
Ahhhh ok
Seeing link makes me wonder if the NFL has plans to reproduce red/white offcials\’ uniforms. Anyone hear any such rumors? More importantly, how badly would they be screwed up by the Vector?
[quote comment=”319512″][quote comment=”319511″]and in a kind of running joke i have with ricko, NO…the broncos never wore link, which is another urban legend in the annals of bronco uni lore[/quote]
link
oh…they wore the helmet with the pony, larry, but the horsey wasn’t BROWN…twas blue[/quote]
Now wait a minute. I am confused. is that part of the running joke with Ricko? I never heard about the blue pony before.
Captain’s armbands are one of those random accessories that have not evolved at all. They’re the same ginormous piece of elastic that they were when I started playing in the 80s. Considering that you can get neoprene headbands and straps to hold your sleeves up and a million other things, its a little odd…
Because of this, they’re really not at all comfortable. You have these super-thin, breathable jerseys and you basically constrict the whole sleeve to your arm, which just feels strange. That’s why we started wearing them on our legs…
[quote]Now wait a minute. I am confused. is that part of the running joke with Ricko? I never heard about the blue pony before.[/quote]
im sorry if i conuzzled ya larry (i was hoping ricko would pop on to ‘splain it, as this disciple would prefer the master to more clearly say it than i can)…but…
when the broncs switched from the link lid after ’61, to what would become their link helmet from link (with the familiar white pony), they wore this helmet (i believe it was only in the preseason, but may have been for a couple regular season games)…because there are NO color photos (or at least none to be found — that would be the holy grail pic), it was widely assumed (and incorrectly so, according to ricko) that the pony was brown…it was not, but rather it was blue (shockingly, the blue didn’t show up very well which is why the switch to white occurred)
so, the running joke is to kid ricko by showing him that pic of the brown horse on the orange lid (and insisting that’s what the broncs actually wore) till his head explodes
however, as ricko will tell you, and in colorful detail, that the helmet was orange but with a blue pony — it was never brown, but until there is a color photo, we need to rely on rick’s eyes, since he (i believe) actually saw the orange and blue
PAUL! FOR SHAME!!!
I know a post by you this late is pretty rare, but this willl not stand.
March yourself over to your Varipapa pic and properly attribute the advertisement.
I’m hanging my head in shame FOR YOU. If you knew anything, I thought you knew beer and bowling.
-broken hearted fan
dammit…TWO bad links in my previous post…both now fixed…
all links good now
[quote comment=”319506″][quote comment=”319432″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3383277122_07bd19a5d7_b.jpg
So it IS possible to have the shoulder stripes to come at least CLOSE to going all the way around (see Chargers). Why can’t they do the same with the Pats (and Colts)?
And saying the process is different for SD than the others is lame. If it is important enough for one then why isn’t on the others?[/quote]
The reason why the shoulder stripes don’t go all the way around on the Colts jerseys as compared to the SD jersey is because of where the stripes land. The SD stripes are farther out and actually run almost around the outside of the shoulder. However, the Colts/Pats stripes are higher up and thus hit a seam cutting off the stripes where we see them end.[/quote]
As I stated, any excuse for not doing it correctly is weak. Even if you had to taper the stripes there is no reason for link when you can do link.
[quote comment=”319521″]As I stated, any excuse for not doing it correctly is weak. Even if you had to taper the stripes there is no reason for link when you can do link.[/quote]
so true…like the panthers…if they can do this, why do they do this?
I don’t get why the Broncos unis are considered to be so ugly. They’re simple brown and white with gold. The socks are cool. I can’t believe I live in a country where people would rather wear the monstrosities the jaguars wear than that. Brown + Numbers on the Helmet > Teal cat tongue
[quote comment=”319522″][quote comment=”319521″]As I stated, any excuse for not doing it correctly is weak. Even if you had to taper the stripes there is no reason for link when you can do link.[/quote]
so true…like the panthers…if they can do link, why do they do link?[/quote]
Even better. If the argument is linemen sleeves, then fine do it with them. Manning’s jersey is as untapered as anyone in the league. No reason why QB’s, punters and kickers can’t have something different. I know with the Skins, 98% percent of the players have cuffed sleeves, doesn’t mean they don’t still make it like this: link
[quote comment=”319340″][quote comment=”319336″]Also, with the Marlins taking the Miami name, new unis possible?[/quote]
Yes, that much has been confirmed.[/quote]
As a Florida Marlins fan, I absolutely hate both of these future “improvements”. I wish they didn’t give in by agreeing to change the name. I guess 20 years as “Florida” doesn’t mean anything to the almighty government dollar. Teams very rarely change their name just for the hell of it, and a lot of that familiarity disappears when they do, IMO.
Yes, I’m happy they’ll get a new stadium, but it’ll be farther away for us northside fans, so I might only go to one game per year after the move.
Thanks Phil for explaining. I had assumed the pony was brown and have seen the throwback helmets and mini helmets with the brown pony.
I know Ricko did those great drawings when he was younger. If he saw blue then he saw blue.
Pretty fascinating debate.
I did find this Bronco uniform history site.
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[quote comment=”319304″]I have always disfavored the windbreaker-under-the-baseball-jersey look, but examples such as this one drive me over the edge. A green windbreaker under a Reds jersey? Were the players bringing whatever windbreakers they had in their closet at home?
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well, 212 comments later and nobody addressed this post, but that windbreaker is gray.
[quote comment=”319410″]Aw, hell, you’re right. I do care. I really hoped the NFL would do this whole thing properly and with a genuine sense of history. It would have been a real treat, a glimpse into another era, much like the enjoyment we get when someone discovers vintage color game footage.
What a team wore in 1960 isn’t subjective, it’s objective…as objective as the game or season stats. Between them, Tom Flores and Babe Parilli threw 17 touchdown passes for the Raiders in 1960, that’s a fact. It’s also a fact that they threw them wearing what was, essentially, a black and light gold version of the Bears unis at the time.
The only people who ever saw those unis play in color, though, are those who attended the games. No regular season games of that AFL era were telecast in anything but black and white. And, I have yet to see a single color game action photo from a Raider home game during any of their first three seasons.
That’s what would have been fun to see…something no human has ever seen…those unis (along with the accurate Bills, Chargers, Oilers roads) playing on TV. In color.
I truly believe, as Uni Watchers, most of us would really have appreciated that bit of “time travel”. This would have been about our only chance. And we aren’t going to get it.
So, yeah, it’s frustrating.
—Ricko[/quote]
MEGA DITTOS … I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, Ricko
If you’re gonna do it, why not do it right?
It would cost just as much or little money to do it accurately as it would to do so inaccurately, which they are chosing to do.
I also agree that no one has ever seen color TV of the early Bills, Broncos, or Raiders, and it would be special to experience that. There is much more to offer taking that approach than seeing the bills, Pats and Raiders unis worn in the very recent past and re-worn for this anniversary.
At least we can take some comfort in that they are improving over the weak 1994 effort made by the Bills, Jets, Cowboys and some others.
Also, the Broncos have just GOTTA wear the Yellow jerseys …. given that the legend has it that the 1960 Broncos GM was so cheap that he bought the original unis second hand, and that he contemplated wearing the Yellow jerseys for EVERY GAME – home and away – because they contrasted with the other teams in the AFL and so he would not have to buy a second set, even though they did end up wearing white jerseys for at least some road games in 1960-1961.
[quote comment=”319415″]Ricko: (I know this isn’t colored), but is this the Raider uni you described?
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What a great uni, wish we could see it this year….
[quote comment=”319521″][quote comment=”319506″][quote comment=”319432″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3383277122_07bd19a5d7_b.jpg
So it IS possible to have the shoulder stripes to come at least CLOSE to going all the way around (see Chargers). Why can’t they do the same with the Pats (and Colts)?
And saying the process is different for SD than the others is lame. If it is important enough for one then why isn’t on the others?[/quote]
The reason why the shoulder stripes don’t go all the way around on the Colts jerseys as compared to the SD jersey is because of where the stripes land. The SD stripes are farther out and actually run almost around the outside of the shoulder. However, the Colts/Pats stripes are higher up and thus hit a seam cutting off the stripes where we see them end.[/quote]
As I stated, any excuse for not doing it correctly is weak. Even if you had to taper the stripes there is no reason for link when you can do link.[/quote]
The “REASON” that they can’t get the stripes right – to go all the way around – even though the manufacterers were able to do so for 50 plus years until recently, is because the manufacterers are LAZY ASSED IDIOTS that can sell anything they want to sell, because they know most of us will continue to buy it because “that’s what the pros really wear” ….
Recently bought two high quality Titan’s/Jets Navy Blue jerseys on EBAY for about $30.00 apiece, they were made by an independent label for an autograph seller, and they have the full sleeves, full UCLA striping, and are as good as any jerseys sold as “authentic” by the NFL/Reebook cartel.
They (NFL/Reebok) could make them right, but they won’t. That also goes for most of the IDIOTS currently manufactering NCAA jerseys. however, you can go to a HS stadium on any Friday night and find them made correctly.
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Bonnie Tyler singing on German Television with Matthias Reim, who is wearing…wtf is that?
A pinstriped sport coat with a custom “Magic Hurricane” Logo? Did I read that correctly?
Epic song, btw. Just epic.
[quote comment=”319527″]I did find this Bronco uniform history site.
link
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that was the site I was basing my statement about the only one set of jerseys from. However, I will definitely defer to the experts on this site who have been paying closer attention to uniforms and the details on them longer than I have been alive! :)
I’m extremely angry about the Oilers throwbacks.
A) Buds Adams stole my childhood football team from me at age 7. My family had season tickets and I was helpless to the situation.
B) He refused to sell us the Oilers logo back. (which is my favorite sports logo)
C) He still lives in Houston.
D) They retired all of OUR players in their ring of honor. (the only players that played in Tennessee in that ring of honor are Steve McNair and Eddie George)
E) Texans games are blacked out in Austin for Titans games.
F) They are our division rival.
And that’s why they are my most hated sports franchise. You can say they should keep their history, but I think people in Baltimore can feel what I’m saying. It’s as if Bud Adams neglected the fact that Houston supported the Oilers for over 30 years and helped to nurture the AFL into a respectable league. Adams basically told the citizens off Houston to fuck off when they left.
The KC gripe is bogus. No one in Dallas is sad about the Texans leaving, and the uni’s are solid. I think it’s mainly an anti Texas thing (inferiority complex). I just wish my Houston Texans would have mimicked that beautiful logo. It would have increased merchandise sales and made our team look classy, not trashy.
For those wondering if the Houston Texans are going to be around long, they are here to stay. We aren’t letting another NFL team go. The Texans have sold out every game, and we have a honest man as our owner.
[quote comment=”319359″]I think it is criminal that the Pats won’t be going with the Tri-corner hat helmets for at least one game. Criminal![/quote]
Yep – I like the tri-corner hat, and used it in the logo for a team in one of my sim leagues.
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Of course, I also have two of the yellow and powder blue Eagles jerseys (what can I say – I love those two colors), so sometimes my judgement is a bit suspect.
On the 1960 AFL throwbacks:
I finally found the photos showing the ’60 Oilers wore the same numbers on their road uniforms, in a page of thumbnail photos of a game against the Los Angeles Chargers.
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Also note the block numbers on the Charger helmets.
What no one is getting is that the team got to CHOOSE their legacy year.
The other thing no one is getting is that the Chiefs PLAYED IN KC during the AFL years, and went to two super bowls too! Therefore the natural choice for the legacy years should be 1966 or 1969. Why choose a non championship Texans team over a championship Chiefs team.
If lets say we moved to KC in 1981 well after the AFL years in Dallas then having the Texans helmet would make perfect sense.
[quote comment=”319531″][quote comment=”319521″][quote comment=”319506″][quote comment=”319432″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3383277122_07bd19a5d7_b.jpg
So it IS possible to have the shoulder stripes to come at least CLOSE to going all the way around (see Chargers). Why can’t they do the same with the Pats (and Colts)?
And saying the process is different for SD than the others is lame. If it is important enough for one then why isn’t on the others?[/quote]
The reason why the shoulder stripes don’t go all the way around on the Colts jerseys as compared to the SD jersey is because of where the stripes land. The SD stripes are farther out and actually run almost around the outside of the shoulder. However, the Colts/Pats stripes are higher up and thus hit a seam cutting off the stripes where we see them end.[/quote]
As I stated, any excuse for not doing it correctly is weak. Even if you had to taper the stripes there is no reason for link when you can do link.[/quote]
The “REASON” that they can’t get the stripes right – to go all the way around – even though the manufacterers were able to do so for 50 plus years until recently, is because the manufacterers are LAZY ASSED IDIOTS that can sell anything they want to sell, because they know most of us will continue to buy it because “that’s what the pros really wear” ….
Recently bought two high quality Titan’s/Jets Navy Blue jerseys on EBAY for about $30.00 apiece, they were made by an independent label for an autograph seller, and they have the full sleeves, full UCLA striping, and are as good as any jerseys sold as “authentic” by the NFL/Reebook cartel.
They (NFL/Reebok) could make them right, but they won’t. That also goes for most of the IDIOTS currently manufactering NCAA jerseys. however, you can go to a HS stadium on any Friday night and find them made correctly.[/quote]
Great points. How odd is it that they act like the can not make the stripes go all the way around today. But years ago they did. Ohio State got rid of the traditional and classic gray sleeve stripe to the current one. And even it does not go around.
Don’t know if this is online anywhere, but there’s a photo of a San Diego State baseball player in today’s Sports Illustrated with a disgusting amount of logo creep. Socks, belt, glove, jersey, you name it. Nike, of course.
If anyone should be upset about the Chiefs wearing Dallas Texans clothing, wouldn’t it be the old Texans fans who watched Lamar Hunt take their team away? Do we think they all fell in love with the Cowboys?
Hmmmm…
Someone here linked to this auction the other day…
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…when it said this was a 1962 game-used Raiders jersey.
It was then pointed out that the ’62 Raiders had no white on their ’62 home jerseys…that it had to be a ’60 or ’61 jersey. Also was noted that the Raiders had NOB both those seasons. This jersey does not.
I see the description has now changed to a ’62 preseason jersey. Possible, but back number still far too high ever to have been used in conjunction with a NOB. Unless, of course, the jersey goes way, WAY back to one of first Raider games of 1960.
So…it’s either a fake, or even more valuable than they realize. Would be interesting to know the answer.
—Ricko
Sorry, here’s the Lelands link…
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The key issue for American Football League fans is that the NFL is doing *anything* to “remember the AFL”. The fact that we’ll see AFL throwbacks from whatever year is exciting. The officials in the “Legacy” games will wear chinese-red-striped shirts and have the AFL logo on chest and cap. Unfortunately, the Original Eight AFL teams will *not* wear AFL patches except for the “Legacy” games. The 50th Anniversary patches for all the Original Eight leave something to be desired.
The AFL teams should follow KC’s lead and put a permanent AFL patch on their uniforms. See the backstory of the “Celebrate the AFL” movement at link
As the guy behind the meat bracket from years ago (thanks for the link!), I can’t imagine why anyone would be a dick about it.
More meat brackets = more meat discussion = more meat consumption = the world is a better place.