Land of 10,000 Lakes … and Some Excellent Sweaters

NOt sure if I mentioned this yesterday, forgive if I did, but if the Pats are wearing a 50th Anni. patch, shouldn’t all of the original AFL teams be sporting one too?

[quote comment=”311243″]NOt sure if I mentioned this yesterday, forgive if I did, but if the Pats are wearing a 50th Anni. patch, shouldn’t all of the original AFL teams be sporting one too?[/quote]
It’s not an anniversary patch. It’s a 50th season patch. I guess they wanted to get the jump on the AFL’s 50th anniversary. (Although, next year technically is the AFL’s 50th anniversary, since it was founded in 1959.)

I have never seen this Florida logo. Is it legit or one of those hollister/H&M logo shirts?

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So we now see what Mr. Met does in his off-days. The hidden 2nd wife. In Cincy.

I didn’t hear about a divorce, but I wondered what happened to Mrs. Met and why she hadn’t shown up a Shea recently. The only time we saw her recently was in commercials.

So who got the kids?

[quote comment=”311247″]I have never seen this Florida logo. Is it legit or one of those hollister/H&M logo shirts?

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That was three logos ago. Now UF has the chomping gator head. Before that was a full body Albert with hands on hips. And before that was the logo you’ve linked to. I think it was used in the late 70s and 80s.

random eBay finds…

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SWEET PATCH!!
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I LOVE the ball-in-glove logo on the navy cap!

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And how awesome are the two hockey sweater sites?

The deal on nameplate lettering and numbers is worth it alone!

I don’t know how they are only charging 100 dollars for this:

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[quote comment=”311253″][quote comment=”311247″]I have never seen this Florida logo. Is it legit or one of those hollister/H&M logo shirts?

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That was three logos ago. Now UF has the chomping gator head. Before that was a full body Albert with hands on hips. And before that was the logo you’ve linked to. I think it was used in the late 70s and 80s.[/quote]

thanks!

[quote comment=”311258″][quote comment=”311250″]Mark me down as a supporter of the Reds’ new assistant mascot, Rosie Red. She looks quite charming.[/quote]

I still think she looks like Rose O’Donnell in A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN.
Which is okay, I guess, probably the last time she was entirely likeable.

—Ricko[/quote]

hahahahahahahahahaha!

Reebok is stupid. They cant even control things in their own company about that ugly looking vector logo and word mark. They should just let their parent company, Adidas take over…but then I guess we would see 3 stripes on every damn thing like the NBA

I know it was brought up several times before in reference to some old baseball card photos, but that picture of link from the SI Vault looks like he is wearing a batting glove under his fielding glove. Judging from the date on the cover of the mag, I would guess it is a spring training pic, but still weird to see him pitching with it on.

~E~

I think Rosie red is a resurrection of Marge Schott, but they were missing some DNA so like in Jurassic Park they spliced in some other DNA. In this case from Mr. Met.

[quote comment=”311252″]I am wondering if the red button on the white (looks white to me) Yakult jersey is meant to resemble the Japanese flag. At least that’s what came to mind immedietely when I saw it.[/quote]

I had the same thought. It’s a simple and subtle thing.

Rosie, the new Reds co-mascot, has her roots in the Rosie Reds. The Rosie Reds are a ladies fan club that was organized in the 60s to increase the number of female fans of the Reds (as part of the team’s efforts to keep the team in Cincinnati). There’s a sweet vintage logo of the Rosie Reds in the link.
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Well how ’bout that….I didn’t realize I was so into Minn. hockey…;0)

may be a stuipd question, but, any pittsburgh uni-watchers going to “piratefest” tonight?

[quote comment=”311270″][quote comment=”311268″]I don’t think Rosie is actually new. That is to say that I’ve been to a fair number of Reds games over the past handful of years and Rosie’s definitely been there. I can’t remember if I’ve actually seen the costume–I don’t usually get the good seats that involve mascots coming by–but she’s definitely part of the Skyline chili race.

Which, by the way, Mr. Redlegs has not won in any game I’ve been to. Despite this, I keep picking him. It’s got to be his time by now.

There are, I should add, 3 mascots: Mr. Redlegs (with pillbox hat and moustache), Rosie Red, and then the normal Mr. Red. Also, the Phanatic/Slider clone “Gapper.”[/quote]

Is Mr. Red the same thing as “Ol’ Bill”? I think this 1956 road uni is the only time he ever appeared on the front of the jersey.
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—Ricko[/quote]

I didn’t know that Mr. Red ever had any other name. They got rid of him in 72 when they realized the hypocrisy of not allowing facial hair, but having a mustachioed baseball as their mascot. Clean shaven Mr. Red got a new uni in 99 (matching the rest of the team) and was retired in 07. When a vintage Mr. Red who, according to Ricko, is named Ol’ Bill
link to the reds logo history on the cramer board
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[quote comment=”311267″]I think Rosie red is a resurrection of Marge Schott, but they were missing some DNA so like in Jurassic Park they spliced in some other DNA. In this case from Mr. Met.[/quote]
You are too quick to pass over Mr. Red link and Mr. Redlegs. link They, too, are of the same ilk as Mr. Met. link

Here is my favorite version of Mr. Red. Nice stirrups, he is wearing real spikes, his number is visible, and he looks like a real go-getter.

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I was not happy when the Reds had him run in the opposite direction when they changed their uniforms in the ’90s.

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That Classic Minnesota site has some solid jerseys on it.

The only problem is that the largest size they offer is XL. How am I supposed to wear the jersey over a jacket or sweater?

It appears that MSN is infringing on Uni Watch’s territory.

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The list is seriously flawed. Not sure who John Grigg is, but he needs to hang out here more.

A reebok Hockey rep came into my rink and presented new gear to my boss and I. They are still using the vector logo, without the trapezoid around it on the new gear. The wordmark will NOT appear on the rear of the jerseys.

[quote comment=”311286″]It appears that MSN is infringing on Uni Watch’s territory.

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The list is seriously flawed. Not sure who John Grigg is, but he needs to hang out here more.[/quote]

kings @ #5? pens @ #10? WTF…and no offense to the good people of st. louie, but yer jersey AIN’T #1

at least the trash, bolts, canes and sharks didn’t make the list…THAT would have been a complete mockery

New Pirate alts are in the MLB store…(at least as a youth replica). They’re black with a yellow “P” on the left chest, and yellow and black piping on the sleeves and collar. Here’s a link: link

[quote comment=”311286″]It appears that MSN is infringing on Uni Watch’s territory.

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The list is seriously flawed. Not sure who John Grigg is, but he needs to hang out here more.[/quote]
Teebz, you know I’ve got a lot of respect for you, so don’t take this as an attack on you, but this post brings out one of my pet peeves about Uni Watch when it comes to other opinions on the topic we love.

Please keep in mind:

a. This community is not the end all, be all of uni opinion. We should encourage more outlets to embrace a topic all of us hold so dear.

b. We’re talking about something highly subjective in that there is no “right answer”. One person’s trash is another’s treasure and even the most horrific uniform designs in the great majority have their fans. Oregon football? Pirates’ red vests? I’m sure there are some people that actually like those.

c. Specifically what’s wrong with the list? I don’t mean in just this case, but in all cases when there is a non-UW list story, people will just be all “this list sucks, they need to get over to UW”. Why is that? In the THN list, while I don’t agree with the order the teams are in, the only jersey I really disagree with being in a top ten is the Kings.

As a subscriber to THN, I think they do a nice job with covering different uniform styles, they always have some obscure jersey in the back near the crossword (when I am able to complete that crossword, only then will I ask for entrance to the hockey wing!)

Again, not trying to be inflammatory, just offering a different point of view.

[quote comment=”311290″][quote comment=”311286″]It appears that MSN is infringing on Uni Watch’s territory.

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The list is seriously flawed. Not sure who John Grigg is, but he needs to hang out here more.[/quote]

kings @ #5? pens @ #10? WTF…and no offense to the good people of st. louie, but yer jersey AIN’T #1

at least the trash, bolts, canes and sharks didn’t make the list…THAT would have been a complete mockery[/quote]

The Blackhawks should be #1 on every list. I think it is gorgeous

The top 10 NHL alternate list was hijacked by MSN from “The Hockey News”

this is the one i am referring to of course

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[quote comment=”311295″]Here’s the new Rangers home jersey: link

Hey, does anyone know where the Rangers play? I can’t tell from this Jersey.

[quote comment=”311245″][quote comment=”311243″]NOt sure if I mentioned this yesterday, forgive if I did, but if the Pats are wearing a 50th Anni. patch, shouldn’t all of the original AFL teams be sporting one too?[/quote]
It’s not an anniversary patch. It’s a 50th season patch. I guess they wanted to get the jump on the AFL’s 50th anniversary. (Although, next year technically is the AFL’s 50th anniversary, since it was founded in 1959.)[/quote]

I can only PRAY that the addition of Pat the Patriot might mean a game with throwbacks next year.

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Hey, does anyone know where the Rangers play? I can’t tell from this Jersey.[/quote]

weak

[quote comment=”311291″]*thrash[/quote]
No, you had it right the first time.

Here are what the 2009 NFL Draft hats will look like:

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I can only find it at the Steelers store right now. I also have no clue why there is a Super Bowl patch on it if it’s a draft cap.

[quote comment=”311310″]Here are what the 2009 NFL Draft hats will look like:

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I can only find it at the Steelers store right now. I also have no clue why there is a Super Bowl patch on it if it’s a draft cap.[/quote]

I have to mention that they are not using the vector logo on the cap. Just like they didn’t on any post season stuff in the NFL. Does anyone know why that is?

[quote comment=”311310″]Here are what the 2009 NFL Draft hats will look like:

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I can only find it at the Steelers store right now. I also have no clue why there is a Super Bowl patch on it if it’s a draft cap.[/quote]

Every year the Superbowl teams wear the template hat for the following Draft…and for putting a patch on it someone went “Oh shit! you know what I just realized….by putting on this 25 cent patch, we can sell even more to stupid people, I mean, consumers who collect this stuff!”

[quote comment=”311303″][quote comment=”311297″][quote comment=”311292″]New Pirate alts are in the MLB store…(at least as a youth replica). They’re black with a yellow “P” on the left chest, and yellow and black piping on the sleeves and collar. Here’s a link: link

They could have done worse….but still, I am not that impressed[/quote]

I love it!! I am a huge Pirates fan and this is something to my liking!!

I also miss the 94-era (i believe) Grey caps…I loved those!!

Now, if they could re-incorporate the copper…that would be perfect!![/quote]

I am highly disappointed.

I absolutely love the Pirates home whites and vests.

Their number/letter font is one of the most unique in sports and the colors are great.

They could have done much more than a cheap softball top.

[quote comment=”311297″][quote comment=”311292″]New Pirate alts are in the MLB store…(at least as a youth replica). They’re black with a yellow “P” on the left chest, and yellow and black piping on the sleeves and collar. Here’s a link: link

They could have done worse….but still, I am not that impressed[/quote]

The Pirates should have done an old-school throwback with touches of red, sort of like the Indians and Phillies have done with their alternate home jerseys. If that’s the third jersey the Pirates will wear in 2009, it lacks any creativity or imagination.

[quote comment=”311298″]The top 10 NHL alternate list was hijacked by MSN from “The Hockey News”[/quote]
Hijacked? THN.com is credited at the top and the bottom of the page.

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I’m officially off the “Pens’ alt is the best third jersey in the NHL” bandwagon. It’s a great look (definitely better than their regular sweaters), but the novelty has worn off.
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It’s not a link around the Reebok logo. It’s a rounded-off link.
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Swallows baseball unis? I thought they were in the BJ league. link.

[quote comment=”311294″][quote comment=”311286″]It appears that MSN is infringing on Uni Watch’s territory.

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The list is seriously flawed. Not sure who John Grigg is, but he needs to hang out here more.[/quote]
Teebz, you know I’ve got a lot of respect for you, so don’t take this as an attack on you, but this post brings out one of my pet peeves about Uni Watch when it comes to other opinions on the topic we love.

Please keep in mind:

a. This community is not the end all, be all of uni opinion. We should encourage more outlets to embrace a topic all of us hold so dear.

b. We’re talking about something highly subjective in that there is no “right answer”. One person’s trash is another’s treasure and even the most horrific uniform designs in the great majority have their fans. Oregon football? Pirates’ red vests? I’m sure there are some people that actually like those.

c. Specifically what’s wrong with the list? I don’t mean in just this case, but in all cases when there is a non-UW list story, people will just be all “this list sucks, they need to get over to UW”. Why is that? In the THN list, while I don’t agree with the order the teams are in, the only jersey I really disagree with being in a top ten is the Kings.

As a subscriber to THN, I think they do a nice job with covering different uniform styles, they always have some obscure jersey in the back near the crossword (when I am able to complete that crossword, only then will I ask for entrance to the hockey wing!)

Again, not trying to be inflammatory, just offering a different point of view.[/quote]

An opposing viewpoint is fine, but Grigg has no clue what an alternate jersey is.

However, he included Detroit’s throwback, which is not an alternate; Chicago’s throwback, which will be their alternate next season with some minor tweaks; and he included a Montreal Canadiens jersey that will not be worn again after this season.

He uses the term “retro” when describing the St. Louis alternate jersey. Retro, when talking about clothes, is defined as “a fashion reminiscent of the past”. Find me anywhere in St. Louis’ history where they wore the arch and this colour of blue.

It’s not retro at all. It’s brand-spanking new.

The Buffalo Sabres’ commentary is “[e]verything old is new again”, which is entirely wrong. The only thing old on the jersey is the retro logo. The design and colours are entirely different than their old 1970s/1980s look.

Anybody else read between the lines of the Reebok conversation and think that maybe we’ll see the wordmark replace the vector logo the year after next?

[quote comment=”311313″][quote comment=”311310″]I also have no clue why there is a Super Bowl patch on it if it’s a draft cap.[/quote]

perhaps because it’s a “Reebok Pittsburgh Steelers 2009 Draft Hat with Super Bowl XLIII Logo”[/quote]

hahahaha

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[quote comment=”311307″]Does anyone know a retailer in Chicago/Chicagoland area that would sell Steelers patches?[/quote]
You might want to give Sports World (right across Addison street from Wrigley Field) a call: 773- 472-7701. Obviously, they have mostly MLB/Cubs stuff, but I’ve seen a ton of random crap in there as well. Plus, it’s football season and the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl. If they don’t have them, they might at least be able to at least point you in the right direction.

[quote comment=”311323″][quote comment=”311303″][quote comment=”311297″][quote comment=”311292″]New Pirate alts are in the MLB store…(at least as a youth replica). They’re black with a yellow “P” on the left chest, and yellow and black piping on the sleeves and collar. Here’s a link: link

They could have done worse….but still, I am not that impressed[/quote]

I love it!! I am a huge Pirates fan and this is something to my liking!!

I also miss the 94-era (i believe) Grey caps…I loved those!!

Now, if they could re-incorporate the copper…that would be perfect!![/quote]

I LOVE trim around the neck![/quote]

Joe,

I e-mailed you through the Name-Frame site…did you get it?

[quote comment=”311295″]Here’s the new Rangers home jersey: link

Can’t wait to get home and look at it with my 3D glasses on. Yippie skippie!!

Seriously now, there’sno need for 3 differnt outline colors.

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Joe,

I e-mailed you through the Name-Frame site…did you get it?[/quote]

Yeah…I replied to you on 01/19/2009 …did you not get that?

[quote comment=”311334″][quote comment=”311323″][quote comment=”311303″][quote comment=”311297″][quote comment=”311292″]New Pirate alts are in the MLB store…(at least as a youth replica). They’re black with a yellow “P” on the left chest, and yellow and black piping on the sleeves and collar. Here’s a link: link

They could have done worse….but still, I am not that impressed[/quote]

I love it!! I am a huge Pirates fan and this is something to my liking!!

I also miss the 94-era (i believe) Grey caps…I loved those!!

Now, if they could re-incorporate the copper…that would be perfect!![/quote]

I LOVE trim around the neck![/quote]
If you follow the links to the youth model home jersey, the Pirates white tops appear to have sprouted sleeves. Hmmm…[/quote]

This appears to be the Pirates new alt hat: link

I have sent this in once before but can someone look into the Florida Gators pants stripes on their blue pants. It looks as though they are intentionally set on the back of the thigh rather than on the side of the leg. Please see lineman in back and Percy Harvin…
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[quote comment=”311334″]If you follow the links to the youth model home jersey, the Pirates white tops appear to have sprouted sleeves. Hmmm…[/quote]
We have a winner!

Personally, I like the black jerseys more with the name & number on them. I’m not a huge fan of the front number placement, but the back of the jersey looks great. I just hope they look good on the field and, probably more importantly, they photograph well. That was my issue with the red jerseys–they looked ok in person, but were terrible when photographed and on TV.

[quote comment=”311247″]I have never seen this Florida logo. Is it legit or one of those hollister/H&M logo shirts?

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That’s a real Florida logo. They were using that up until the late 80s. Shortly after Spurrier’s arrival marked the start of the modern Gator logo:

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[quote comment=”311322″][quote comment=”311294″][quote comment=”311286″]It appears that MSN is infringing on Uni Watch’s territory.

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The list is seriously flawed. Not sure who John Grigg is, but he needs to hang out here more.[/quote]
Teebz, you know I’ve got a lot of respect for you, so don’t take this as an attack on you, but this post brings out one of my pet peeves about Uni Watch when it comes to other opinions on the topic we love.

Please keep in mind:

a. This community is not the end all, be all of uni opinion. We should encourage more outlets to embrace a topic all of us hold so dear.

b. We’re talking about something highly subjective in that there is no “right answer”. One person’s trash is another’s treasure and even the most horrific uniform designs in the great majority have their fans. Oregon football? Pirates’ red vests? I’m sure there are some people that actually like those.

c. Specifically what’s wrong with the list? I don’t mean in just this case, but in all cases when there is a non-UW list story, people will just be all “this list sucks, they need to get over to UW”. Why is that? In the THN list, while I don’t agree with the order the teams are in, the only jersey I really disagree with being in a top ten is the Kings.

As a subscriber to THN, I think they do a nice job with covering different uniform styles, they always have some obscure jersey in the back near the crossword (when I am able to complete that crossword, only then will I ask for entrance to the hockey wing!)

Again, not trying to be inflammatory, just offering a different point of view.[/quote]

An opposing viewpoint is fine, but Grigg has no clue what an alternate jersey is.

However, he included Detroit’s throwback, which is not an alternate; Chicago’s throwback, which will be their alternate next season with some minor tweaks; and he included a Montreal Canadiens jersey that will not be worn again after this season.

He uses the term “retro” when describing the St. Louis alternate jersey. Retro, when talking about clothes, is defined as “a fashion reminiscent of the past”. Find me anywhere in St. Louis’ history where they wore the arch and this colour of blue.

It’s not retro at all. It’s brand-spanking new.

The Buffalo Sabres’ commentary is “[e]verything old is new again”, which is entirely wrong. The only thing old on the jersey is the retro logo. The design and colours are entirely different than their old 1970s/1980s look.[/quote]
I do a agree with your blasting him for not knowing the difference between an alternate and a retro and that he’s lumping them into a catch-all third jersey category.

You’ll have to forgive my ignorance on Buffalo, is it a deeper shade of blue? It looks similar to the old ones to me. Yes, there are design changes but it’s close isn’t it?

[quote comment=”311322″][quote comment=”311294″][quote comment=”311286″]It appears that MSN is infringing on Uni Watch’s territory.

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The list is seriously flawed. Not sure who John Grigg is, but he needs to hang out here more.[/quote]
Teebz, you know I’ve got a lot of respect for you, so don’t take this as an attack on you, but this post brings out one of my pet peeves about Uni Watch when it comes to other opinions on the topic we love.

Please keep in mind:

a. This community is not the end all, be all of uni opinion. We should encourage more outlets to embrace a topic all of us hold so dear.

b. We’re talking about something highly subjective in that there is no “right answer”. One person’s trash is another’s treasure and even the most horrific uniform designs in the great majority have their fans. Oregon football? Pirates’ red vests? I’m sure there are some people that actually like those.

c. Specifically what’s wrong with the list? I don’t mean in just this case, but in all cases when there is a non-UW list story, people will just be all “this list sucks, they need to get over to UW”. Why is that? In the THN list, while I don’t agree with the order the teams are in, the only jersey I really disagree with being in a top ten is the Kings.

As a subscriber to THN, I think they do a nice job with covering different uniform styles, they always have some obscure jersey in the back near the crossword (when I am able to complete that crossword, only then will I ask for entrance to the hockey wing!)

Again, not trying to be inflammatory, just offering a different point of view.[/quote]

An opposing viewpoint is fine, but Grigg has no clue what an alternate jersey is.

However, he included Detroit’s throwback, which is not an alternate; Chicago’s throwback, which will be their alternate next season with some minor tweaks; and he included a Montreal Canadiens jersey that will not be worn again after this season.

He uses the term “retro” when describing the St. Louis alternate jersey. Retro, when talking about clothes, is defined as “a fashion reminiscent of the past”. Find me anywhere in St. Louis’ history where they wore the arch and this colour of blue.

It’s not retro at all. It’s brand-spanking new.

The Buffalo Sabres’ commentary is “[e]verything old is new again”, which is entirely wrong. The only thing old on the jersey is the retro logo. The design and colours are entirely different than their old 1970s/1980s look.[/quote]

Teebz, to be fair, in Grigg’s article the title and first paragraph define an alternate jersey as anything different from the everyday ones. So including throwbacks in the list is ok with me.

Also, in addition to the Sabres logo, the stripes are close to the old stripes, aren’t they? And the laceup collar is retro.

And as for the Blues, while it’s not a throwback, the logo (and laceup collar and simple striping) certainly has a retro look to it.

With all this hockey coverage lately (DIY, high school, Winter Classic etc.) I am starting to follow hockey more, I am a Islanders fan… I know not much to follow these days but I have this strange love for all things Pittsburgh so I am following the Penguins too.

I even thought about taking skating lessons, yesterday I was looking at hockey sweaters in the NHL store (40 bucks for a fucking Whalers shirt?!? It all started when I first saw the Whalers logo and fell in love with the Harpoon one, I am planning to make one as a DIY).

So thanks Paul and Phil cause now ALL my teams suck (Mets, Jets, Islanders, Knicks).

P.s. PAUL or PHIL how long do you think the party is going to last on Saturday cause I have to work from 1 to 4 in the city.

[quote comment=”311302″][quote comment=”311295″]Here’s the new Rangers home jersey: link

Hey, does anyone know where the Rangers play? I can’t tell from this Jersey.[/quote]

We should count ourselves lucky that the Rangers didn’t put a giant silhouette of the state all over the front of the jersey.

[quote comment=”311353″][quote comment=”311302″][quote comment=”311295″]Here’s the new Rangers home jersey: link

Hey, does anyone know where the Rangers play? I can’t tell from this Jersey.[/quote]

We should count ourselves lucky that the Rangers didn’t put a giant silhouette of the state all over the front of the jersey.[/quote]

They did that in link. Ewww.

[quote comment=”311304″][quote comment=”311245″][quote comment=”311243″]NOt sure if I mentioned this yesterday, forgive if I did, but if the Pats are wearing a 50th Anni. patch, shouldn’t all of the original AFL teams be sporting one too
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I can only PRAY that the addition of Pat the Patriot might mean a game with throwbacks next year.[/quote]

Ditto!

[quote comment=”311353″][quote comment=”311302″][quote comment=”311295″]Here’s the new Rangers home jersey: link

Hey, does anyone know where the Rangers play? I can’t tell from this Jersey.[/quote]

We should count ourselves lucky that the Rangers didn’t put a giant silhouette of the state all over the front of the jersey.[/quote]

I don’t get it. Is the lettering that big? It seems fairly normal to me. Just because Paul implied it was large doesn’t mean you have to act like its insanely big. I think its just a case where the name only has five letters, so they (maybe) had to increase the size a little to fill the shirt. But I still don’t think it’s that big. Looks as big as this, for example.
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Maybe someone can do an overlay analysis to prove me wrong.

[quote comment=”311349″]
Teebz, to be fair, in Grigg’s article the title and first paragraph define an alternate jersey as anything different from the everyday ones. So including throwbacks in the list is ok with me.

Also, in addition to the Sabres logo, the stripes are close to the old stripes, aren’t they? And the laceup collar is retro.

And as for the Blues, while it’s not a throwback, the logo (and laceup collar and simple striping) certainly has a retro look to it.[/quote]

1) If that’s the definition of alternate jersey, then there a hundreds of minor-league “alternate” jerseys that were worn once.

Any time a patch is worn for an event would make that jersey an alternate as well because it’s different than what they normally wear. His definition is flawed.

An ALTERNATE means it can be worn as another option. Wearing something once does not fit that definition whatsoever.

2) A lace-up collar is not retro. Check out how many teams wore lace-up collars in 1979. None. Zero. Zilch. Sure, there were a bunch of teams that wore them up until the 1978-79 season, but they went AWOL after that. They didn’t show up again until 1997-98 when the NY Rangers re-introduced the lace-up neckline on their blue jerseys. The Kings were the first team to introduce the lace-up on their alternates in 1999-2000.

Lace-up is no longer retro since there are 18 jerseys using lace-up necks this season alone.

The term “retro” when describing teams who are using lace-ups is only applicable to teams who have worn lace-ups in the past. Even then, retro would only be applicable for the first couple of years, not 11 years after the Rangers re-introduced the trend.

3) How can something look “retro” if it was never worn before? That’s like saying “new and improved”. If it’s new, it can’t be improved. If it’s improved, it cannot be new.

The Blues jersey does not have a “retro” feel. It has never been worn. It cannot have a retro feeling.

4) The Sabres new jerseys are no where close to the old jerseys. Royal and yellow was the colour of Buffalo, not navy, gray and yellow. And apron straps didn’t exist in 1970 on hockey jerseys.

As to that Cubs/Under Armour Suit, the best comment I read was from a man named David Fish – an Illinois lawyer who helped Ted Williams’ daughter recover a stolen baseball that was autographed by Babe Ruth for Ted Williams. He said:

“How does one respond to an allegation [in paragraph five of the complaint] that the ‘The Chicago Cubs are a successful professional baseball team?’ ”

I believe this will make Dallas the only city with four major sports franchises, none of which have the team name on the front of the jersey.

Mavs and Stars already have “Dallas”, Cowboys have nothing on their whites, and now the Rangers go with “Texas”.

[quote comment=”311363″][quote comment=”311349″]
Teebz, to be fair, in Grigg’s article the title and first paragraph define an alternate jersey as anything different from the everyday ones. So including throwbacks in the list is ok with me.

Also, in addition to the Sabres logo, the stripes are close to the old stripes, aren’t they? And the laceup collar is retro.

And as for the Blues, while it’s not a throwback, the logo (and laceup collar and simple striping) certainly has a retro look to it.[/quote]

1) If that’s the definition of alternate jersey, then there a hundreds of minor-league “alternate” jerseys that were worn once.

Any time a patch is worn for an event would make that jersey an alternate as well because it’s different than what they normally wear. His definition is flawed.

An ALTERNATE means it can be worn as another option. Wearing something once does not fit that definition whatsoever.

2) A lace-up collar is not retro. Check out how many teams wore lace-up collars in 1979. None. Zero. Zilch. Sure, there were a bunch of teams that wore them up until the 1978-79 season, but they went AWOL after that. They didn’t show up again until 1997-98 when the NY Rangers re-introduced the lace-up neckline on their blue jerseys. The Kings were the first team to introduce the lace-up on their alternates in 1999-2000.

Lace-up is no longer retro since there are 18 jerseys using lace-up necks this season alone.

The term “retro” when describing teams who are using lace-ups is only applicable to teams who have worn lace-ups in the past. Even then, retro would only be applicable for the first couple of years, not 11 years after the Rangers re-introduced the trend.

3) How can something look “retro” if it was never worn before? That’s like saying “new and improved”. If it’s new, it can’t be improved. If it’s improved, it cannot be new.

The Blues jersey does not have a “retro” feel. It has never been worn. It cannot have a retro feeling.

4) The Sabres new jerseys are no where close to the old jerseys. Royal and yellow was the colour of Buffalo, not navy, gray and yellow. And apron straps didn’t exist in 1970 on hockey jerseys.[/quote]

In my book, something can be completely brand new and still have a retro look to it (Camden Yards, for example). Now if you say throwback, then yes, it must have existed first.

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this. But its all good.

OK. Regarding the Rangers’ new home jerseys:

I was always under the impression that home jerseys had your team nickname on them, because you’re at home, no reason that the fans would need to know where you play.

The road jerseys, one would think, would have the location of the road team. This functions both as 1) notification for the home fans where their opponents are from (this was a lot more important back in the day); and 2) sort of understates the road team uniforms. This is also why I believe road uniforms are traditionally gray, in order to let the home team’s whites “steal the show.”

So I really don’t see a reason why home jerseys would have the location of the team on them. Makes no sense at all to me.

Last season, in the AL, only the Orioles, Rays and Angels had their team nicknames on the road unis. All other teams had the nickname or logo (ChiSox, Yanks, Tigers) at home and the city name on the road. On the senior circuit, the Brewers, Phils and Cards have the team nickname on both jerseys, all others had logos (Cubs, Reds) or nicknames.

[quote comment=”311345″][quote comment=”311247″]I have never seen this Florida logo. Is it legit or one of those hollister/H&M logo shirts?

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That’s a real Florida logo. They were using that up until the late 80s. Shortly after Spurrier’s arrival marked the start of the modern Gator logo:

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I wouldn’t trust that site. The team had the Gator head logo in the 1996 championship game (played in Jan 1997) and the site said it started in 1998. Also, the old circular UF logo can still be found around (on my class ring from 2003) as can the Albert logo.

[quote comment=”311369″]
In my book, something can be completely brand new and still have a retro look to it (Camden Yards, for example). Now if you say throwback, then yes, it must have existed first.

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this. But its all good.[/quote]

Camden Yards looked like old-time baseball stadiums. St. Louis’ alternate does not look like old hockey jerseys.

Major difference.

[quote]something can be completely brand new and still have a retro look to it (Camden Yards, for example). Now if you say throwback, then yes, it must have existed first.[/quote]

i think we tried to have a discussion/clarification on this point a couple of times before, but we couldn’t agree on terms…but you are pretty close, i think, to what should be UW-speak

to wit:

retro-old school “feel”, not something ever worn before (open to interpretation)

fauxback-similar to retro, takes elements of unis from the past (i.e. phillies alt) but was never actually a true uni worn before

throwback-recreation of a specific uni worn previously (i.e. 1968 A’s)

[quote comment=”311361″][quote comment=”311353″][quote comment=”311302″][quote comment=”311295″]Here’s the new Rangers home jersey: link

Hey, does anyone know where the Rangers play? I can’t tell from this Jersey.[/quote]

We should count ourselves lucky that the Rangers didn’t put a giant silhouette of the state all over the front of the jersey.[/quote]

I don’t get it. Is the lettering that big? It seems fairly normal to me. Just because Paul implied it was large doesn’t mean you have to act like its insanely big. I think its just a case where the name only has five letters, so they (maybe) had to increase the size a little to fill the shirt. But I still don’t think it’s that big. Looks as big as this, for example.
link

Maybe someone can do an overlay analysis to prove me wrong.[/quote]

My point was that the vast majority of teams in baseball have the team’s nickname on the white home jersey. The Boston jersey you linked to is an away jersey, which is supposed to have the city, region, or state name.

Hockey Wing Alert…..

found this
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great stuff from NHL all-start intros, best was the first, 1985, each player put on a cowboy hat (game was in calgary) when stepping on the ice. Chelios and Lemieux were rookies(!), unis not too bad either, but I always preferred the Prince of Wales and Campbell conference then the east/west stuff.

Inspired by the Pats 50 seasons logo yesterday, I drew this up, as tribute, for the 33 seasons of the Seattle Seahawks:

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Included the two different fonts used, as well as, differing logos and colors, since, there is a 652 C Pantone blue.

[quote comment=”311380″][quote]Don’t worry, the Islanders will be skipping town soon.[/quote]

is that a threat, or a promise :o)[/quote]

Easy, big fella. You’d miss them if they were gone. I’ve been calling WFAN repeatedly the last few days to try to convince them to at least give some lip service to the Islanders.

I will not let the hockey team I have backed for 30 years go gently into that good night.

[quote comment=”311380″][quote]Don’t worry, the Islanders will be skipping town soon.[/quote]

is that a threat, or a promise :o)[/quote]

UGH I can’t be a Rangers fan… if Wang scaled down his project to just the arena he might get it.

P.s. I’ve been getting “trout” as my anti-spam for around 4 times now.

[quote comment=”311386″][quote comment=”311382″][quote]Except that the word “retrospect” means “to look back upon something”.

Retro, in this case, would be to look back on a period of time where these jerseys were worn. If they were not worn, they are not retro.[/quote]

here’s a good explanation of retro:

[quote]This term was first employed in France in the early 1970s as an abbreviation of the term ‘rétrograde’ (‘rétro’) and was used to look back to past styles and fashions in a nostalgic way. It has entered common currency in the context of marketing past styles whether in terms of music, dress, furniture, appliances, architecture, or car styling.

semantics schmantics…it’s all in the way we communicate things ;)[/quote]

Using my cunning linguistics in francais, “retrogarde” literally translates into “to look back upon” aka “retrospect” en anglais. ;o)

In any case, that Blues jersey does not resemble anything from the past whatsoever. The logo might have elements of feeling like an old-time logo, but the jersey has no retro aspects at all.

[/quote][/quote][quote comment=”311386″]
semantics schmantics…it’s all in the way we communicate things ;)[/quote]
Breakfast, shmreakfast. Look at the score, for Christ’s sake. It’s only the second period and I’m up 12 to 2. Breakfasts come and go. Now Hartford — The Whale — hey, they only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice in a lifetime.

[quote comment=”311337″][quote comment=”311333″]

Joe,

I e-mailed you through the Name-Frame site…did you get it?[/quote]

Yeah…I replied to you on 01/19/2009 …did you not get that?[/quote]

nope

[quote comment=”311391″][/quote][/quote][quote comment=”311386″]
semantics schmantics…it’s all in the way we communicate things ;)[/quote]
Breakfast, shmreakfast. Look at the score, for Christ’s sake. It’s only the second period and I’m up 12 to 2. Breakfasts come and go. Now Hartford — The Whale — hey, they only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice in a lifetime.[/quote]

no Kevin Smith quotes…..especially mallrats

I’ve breezed through the comments whilst catching up, and not noticed anything – with regards to NFL players wearing windbreakers, I always though Steve Grogan was the king of the Windbreaker?
Apologies if someone had already mentioned this.

[quote comment=”311386″][quote comment=”311382″][Except that the word “retrospect” means “to look back upon something”.

Retro, in this case, would be to look back on a period of time where these jerseys were worn. If they were not worn, they are not retro.[/quote]

here’s a good explanation of retro:

[quote]This term was first employed in France in the early 1970s as an abbreviation of the term ‘rétrograde’ (‘rétro’) and was used to look back to past styles and fashions in a nostalgic way. It has entered common currency in the context of marketing past styles whether in terms of music, dress, furniture, appliances, architecture, or car styling. For example, in 1974, the whole of the Selfridge’s store window display in Oxford Street, London, was devoted to products and ephemera associated with the period in which the Paramount film, The Great Gatsby, was set, including Art Deco motifs, cocktails, and correspondent shoes. Such contemporary Deco ‘retro’ inclinations of the time were also evident in the Biba emporium in Kensington, with its glamorous Rainbow Room and other references to the glamour of the 1930s. Since then the term has been used almost indiscriminately as a marketing tool, but has also been seen in a more considered way in designs such as the reinterpretation of the Volkswagen Beetle car design by J. Meys in 1998.[/quote]

semantics schmantics…it’s all in the way we communicate things ;)[/quote]

But the key word in the article is “feel”, not “retro” or “throwback”. Saying something has a reto feel means it feels like a retro [something], even though it may have never existed before.

Its like saying my wife’s ring has a diamond feel to it, even though its really cubic zirconium.

Teebz, I totally respect your opinion that the Blues alt “does not look like old hockey jerseys”. You know a lot more about hockey history than I do. But to me, an average fan, it does have an old time/retro look.

what the f–k is the internet?

[quote comment=”311399″]
Teebz, I totally respect your opinion that the Blues alt “does not look like old hockey jerseys”. You know a lot more about hockey history than I do. But to me, an average fan, it does have an old time/retro look.[/quote]

I get you, Dave. Believe me, I’m not saying this is your fault or anything. If anything, I like this kind of debate, and your side certainly has weight and my respect.

I just find it hard to believe that a guy like Griggs, who has a job with a respected hockey media outlet like THN, is allowed to make the commentary he did when he knows better. Or should know better.

I think the Florida logos do over lap when my cousin coached there in the late 90s I had stuff with Albert, the Gator head the the UF.

may be a stuipd question, but, any pittsburgh uni-watchers going to “piratefest” tonight?

I’m going. Just bought a 20-game plan so I can avoid the mind-numbingly long “autograph party” line. It’s the most poorly run fan fest I have ever attended.

…hey “k in pa”, i’ll have a zip-up gray and black hooded sweatshirt that says “pirates” across the front and a white winter classic pens tuuk… so if you see me, say hey!

if that really is the new pirates 3rd… i’m on the fence about it… i’ll have to see it up close with the numbers on it

[quote comment=”311408″][quote comment=”311339″]This appears to be the Pirates new alt hat: link

Too bad it’s not this one:
link
I have heard nothing about a new on-field cap.

Pirates unveil their unis for real: link

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Please hold the laughter after this line:

Frank Coonelly explained as part of the announcement today at the team’s annual media luncheon that one reason for restoring the sleeves was that four of the franchise’s five championships were won in that fashion and that the move was made “as part of our return to championship-caliber baseball.”

[quote comment=”311409″][quote comment=”311408″][quote comment=”311339″]This appears to be the Pirates new alt hat: link

Too bad it’s not this one:
link
I have heard nothing about a new on-field cap.[/quote]

New on field cap has white around the “P”, the yellow brim is not it.

After seeing the new uni’s with the number….I wish they would have left the #’s on the back….oh, wel….not everything can be perfect….I still like them alot.

@ 163: I actually saw the red jersey and thought about driving out to Arlington to get one. I know I’m getting the red cap at very least.

I love that they matched the NOB font with the front of the jersey. There was a picture on the Rangers website, that is now missing, and the NOB looks awesome.

Also of note, the new Rangers unis call for black shoes and belts, opposed to the old blue.

[quote comment=”311419″]@ 163: I actually saw the red jersey and thought about driving out to Arlington to get one. I know I’m getting the red cap at very least.

I love that they matched the NOB font with the front of the jersey. There was a picture on the Rangers website, that is now missing, and the NOB looks awesome.

Also of note, the new Rangers unis call for black shoes and belts, opposed to the old blue.[/quote]
Really? Ugh. NOB’s are prone to get really, really busy when overdone. Specialty font, outline, and drop-shadow? Yikes. I probably won’t like it, but I’d like to see pictures. Anyone care to post or link?

Are they phasing out “Rangers?” Because that’s what it looks like based on their 4 new uniforms for 2009.

I thought the use of the old script “Rangers” on the BP jerseys was great. Why not use that for one of the 2 alternate jerseys? Anything, something. Geez.

Sure, they’re not the only team in MLB that does not use its nickname on any of its uniforms (Detroit Tigers, New York Yankees). But those two teams use unique letter-symbols on their home uniforms. Perhaps if the Rangers were using the “T” on the home uniform, it would be ok, but their using the full “Texas” on everything.

Who are the ad wizards who came up with that one?

Yeah, I’ve NEVER seen anything like those red Texas alts:

link

Scariest part of the Rangers press release:

Home and road batting helmet: The helmet is blue and red with metallic finish. The front of the helmet is blue and the back is red. It has a white “T” outlined in blue and red on the front. All helmets will be vented.

That can’t be good. If the front is blue, and the back is red, then Paul, guess what the middle is…

fugly.

“Pirates unveil their unis for real: link… ”

why, why. why is that stupid pirate logo on the left sleeve?!?! i hate that thing!

sorry guys

[quote comment=”311402″][quote comment=”311373″]
I wouldn’t trust that site. The team had the Gator head logo in the 1996 championship game (played in Jan 1997) and the site said it started in 1998. Also, the old circular UF logo can still be found around (on my class ring from 2003) as can the Albert logo.[/quote]
I second this. I could produce a photo of myself wearing a t-shirt with the “1992-1997” logo that was taken in 1987. I think all of those logos overlapped in time & originated earlier than indicated.[/quote]

All the logos are still used in some fashion, but the Gator Head replaced Albert as main Athletics logo in the early 90s (and wasn’t initially liked as much). The Academic side never uses the Gator Head, and now uses a simple UF monogram/wordmark.
link
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[quote comment=”311301″]That’s so strange about that XFL logo. The very first thought that went through my head when I saw the logo, before I read the item was, “is something going on with Hebron HS?”[/quote]
My guess as to why you don’t see the other XFL logos being used by high schools is that they just wouldn’t translate well. A logo with just one letter makes it very easily transferable regardless of the team nickname – like the “H” for the Hitmen. But all of the other logos don’t look to work well in other scenarios…a few would definitely have to be tweaked prior to using them. link

[quote comment=”311435″][quote comment=”311301″]That’s so strange about that XFL logo. The very first thought that went through my head when I saw the logo, before I read the item was, “is something going on with Hebron HS?”[/quote]
My guess as to why you don’t see the other XFL logos being used by high schools is that they just wouldn’t translate well. A logo with just one letter makes it very easily transferable regardless of the team nickname – like the “H” for the Hitmen. But all of the other logos don’t look to work well in other scenarios…a few would definitely have to be tweaked prior to using them. link[/quote]

They didn’t steal the logo, but Florida Atlantic got a deal on the Orlando Rage’s practice equipment after the XFL died. The red/blue colors kinda matched FAU’s colors too.

[quote comment=”311435″]
My guess as to why you don’t see the other XFL logos being used by high schools is that they just wouldn’t translate well. A logo with just one letter makes it very easily transferable regardless of the team nickname – like the “H” for the Hitmen. But all of the other logos don’t look to work well in other scenarios…a few would definitely have to be tweaked prior to using them. link[/quote]

Are you saying a highschool wouldn’t want to use this for their identity? I’ve seen that kid at school!
link

Saw this on the Rangers’ website regarding their batting helmets: “The front of the helmet is blue and the back is red.” Can’t imagine that looking good.

[quote comment=”311416″][quote comment=”311410″][quote comment=”311408″][quote comment=”311339″]This appears to be the Pirates new alt hat: link

Too bad it’s not this one:
link

I already pointed out that is not a “new alt” (the yellow brim has been around since 97)

and fashion caps never should be ats[/quote]
Looks like there is a link.
Opinion time: It’s a little busy for a cap. It will look good because it will match the black tops (with respect to the outlining), but if I were a Pirates fan, I wouldn’t wear the alt hat by itself.
Prediction time: Get your screen grab software ready, because there will be inconsistencies. I’d count on one player wearing the wrong black hat every once in a while.[/quote]
I’m told that is indeed the hat that will be worn with the black alt jersey and that the white outline is really only visible up close.

[quote comment=”311429″]”Pirates unveil their unis for real: link… ”

why, why. why is that stupid pirate logo on the left sleeve?!?! i hate that thing![/quote]
It’s being phased out.

[quote comment=”311414″]I was checking out old Giants pics and found this one of Jim Burt…look at the spacing of his nameplate:

link

More alarming is the spacing between Joe’s tibia and fibula.

[quote comment=”311420″]Regarding the St. Louis Blues’ alternate jersey, I would like to remind everyone of another group that “really likes these jerseys”, and proclaimed that the “new logo has that old-time hockey feel.”

link

Foreword by Ken the Otter[/quote]

Just to clarify, the “new logo has that old-time hockey feel” quote is exactly what I said earlier.

The logo has nothing to do with the rest of the jersey, though, which isn’t retro or old-time hockey.

[quote comment=”311448″]Teebz, check message 136 yesterday, thanks![/quote]

I had never seen that page! Someone is seriously misinforming the world with that page.

Good find, Husul, and I plan to email whoever is in charge of that page.

Astro Boy is also part of Osamu Tezuka’s work. He was only part of the uniform from 1966 to 1970.

Osamu Tezuka also did the mascot for the Seibu Lions.

Probably one of the few cartoonists to have two teams use their characters.

The Swallows even sold an Astro Boy doll with an Atoms’ uniform

link

[quote comment=”311388″][quote comment=”311383″]Inspired by the Pats 50 seasons logo yesterday, I drew this up, as tribute, for the 33 seasons of the Seattle Seahawks:

link

Included the two different fonts used, as well as, differing logos and colors, since, there is a 652 C Pantone blue.[/quote]

Impressive job. Although, I would like it better with only two bird heads — the old one looking left (at the past) and the current one going right.[/quote]

Good idea. Tweaked it a bit.

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[quote comment=”311266″]Any images on those new Hawkeye uniforms yet? Probably SOD[/quote]

Is this a basketball or football uni change? Please tell me it is football! They need to ditch those awful togs! :-)

[quote comment=”311455″][quote comment=”311449″]Just to clarify, the “new logo has that old-time hockey feel” quote is exactly what I said earlier.[/quote]

Can you provide other, older examples of hockey teams using this style of logo? The ones that are apparent are the Chicago Blackhawks (1926-55) and the London Knights (1965-78).[/quote]

Pittsburgh Penguins had that style of logo from 1968-71. The Cleveland Barons sort of had a logo like that from ’76-78. And, of course, the Wild have been using theirs for the last couple of years.

[quote comment=”311443″][quote comment=”311416″][quote comment=”311410″][quote comment=”311408″][quote comment=”311339″]This appears to be the Pirates new alt hat: link

Too bad it’s not this one:
link

I already pointed out that is not a “new alt” (the yellow brim has been around since 97)

and fashion caps never should be ats[/quote]
Looks like there is a link.
Opinion time: It’s a little busy for a cap. It will look good because it will match the black tops (with respect to the outlining), but if I were a Pirates fan, I wouldn’t wear the alt hat by itself.
Prediction time: Get your screen grab software ready, because there will be inconsistencies. I’d count on one player wearing the wrong black hat every once in a while.[/quote]
I’m told that is indeed the hat that will be worn with the black alt jersey and that the white outline is really only visible up close.[/quote]

All they did was take the white-outlined “P” from their BP cap and put it on the black game cap. It’s not awful, and it mimics the “P” on the black alt jersey. It’s pretty subtle for an alt cap.

Reminds me of the Braves’ caps during the 80s: royal blue with white A on the road, but the white A had a thin red outline at home b/c there was red incorporated in the home uniform.

Road:
link

Home:
link

[quote comment=”311441″]Saw this on the Rangers’ website regarding their batting helmets: “The front of the helmet is blue and the back is red.” Can’t imagine that looking good.[/quote]

They’ll be two-tone coolflo helmets like the Mets wear.

link

Can’t really tell in this pic

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All Minneapolis area UW-ers, don’t miss the US Pond Hockey Championships this weekend at Lake Nokomis. Always some interesting unis there, should be a good time!

[quote comment=”311465″]Here is the video for the Rangers uni unveiling, the helmets are embarrassing to me as a Rangers fan.

link

Those are ridiculous. At least the blue and black look decent together.

that batting helmet is seriously fugly

When I read the description of the helmet, I thought that it meant the bill was blue and the crown red. That in itself would be odd with all of the Ranger unis, then I saw the actual helmet and made a mental note to attend 2 less games this upcoming season.

[quote]At least the blue and black look decent together.[/quote]

um…no, no they don’t (at least not on the mets batting helmets)

but you’re forgiven since compared to your fine school’s uniforms and color combos, that prolly does look decent ;)

Are you serious, Texas? Those batting helmets are laughable.

Selig needs to step up and limit each team to one alternate uniform that can be worn only at home a certain number of times. This is getting re-goddamn-diculous

“The solid vests looked fine”

Except, of course, for the red ones.

[quote comment=”311463″]Is it just me or have the folks over at MLB properties all recently attended the “Crappy Uniform Makeover 101” class this off season? From what I have seen (Nationals, Red Sox, Pirates, Baltimore, Rangers) very few bright spots. How many teams now have 4 unis (home/road/alt 1/alt 2)?[/quote]

The Twins added a new retro alt, which is probably my favorite new uniform so far.

A ton of teams have at least four jerseys. Arizona, Atlanta, Colorado (if they still have the purples), Houston, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Boston, Cleveland, Kansas City (if they still have the royal blues), Minnesota, Oakland (if they still have the blacks and greens), Texas and Toronto.

The new Rangers helmets are awful.

[quote comment=”311460″][quote comment=”311455″][quote comment=”311449″]Just to clarify, the “new logo has that old-time hockey feel” quote is exactly what I said earlier.[/quote]

Can you provide other, older examples of hockey teams using this style of logo? The ones that are apparent are the Chicago Blackhawks (1926-55) and the London Knights (1965-78).[/quote]

Pittsburgh Penguins had that style of logo from 1968-71. The Cleveland Barons sort of had a logo like that from ’76-78. And, of course, the Wild have been using theirs for the last couple of years.[/quote]

So there’s really only one NHL team that used that style of logo for any considerable length of time. That’s why I feel it’s complete nonsense to say that the Blues alternate has any old-time hockey, nostalgic, or retro quality. The Sabres alternate is much more retro than the Blues.

I gotta agree with Kek here. John Grigg should have not gone with the retro description for the Blues, but otherwise his list is acceptable. His list does not match the UW list, but that’s just a difference of opinion. Mr. Grigg is being unfairly trashed.

The Iowa ref. was to their basketball uniforms!!
Why would the University of Iowa want to change their football uniforms? There is nothing wrong with them?
They tried a few times when Coach Fry was there and thankfully no one I knew was playing for the Hawkeyes at the time.
But they got smart and wenty back to what works.
They look great!
Why fix something that is not broken?

Those black Pirates alternates are an abomination! Just when you had hope that the Buccos might actually come up with something classy, they come up with that piece of crap. Yea, yea a step up from those ridiculous Mickey D’s rags, but still Pioneer League BS. They remind me of those knockoff you find in Wal-Mart. Stay Classy Pirates!

Then they insult us fans with the comment, “restoring the sleeves was that four of the franchise’s five championships were won in that fashion and that the move was made “as part of our return to championship-caliber baseball.” WTF! How about keeping the sleeves and investing the money you spent on designing those on some real ballplayers

Makes me wish Nate McLouth would have stood up to Nutting like Johnny Upton in Slapshot and told him what he really thinks about those turds. “Johnny Upton: I’m gonna walk down that stinkin’ runway, open up this faggot robe and wiggle my d*@k at ’em! And do you know why? Because I want you to have a heart-attack and die so we don’t have to do this $#!t again! You and your F@*#ing fashion shows!”

Yeah, you could say us Pirates fans have pretty much had enough. 16 years and counting! Hey only 72 days til we’re mathematically eliminated!

[quote comment=”311482″][quote comment=”311460″][quote comment=”311455″][quote comment=”311449″]Just to clarify, the “new logo has that old-time hockey feel” quote is exactly what I said earlier.[/quote]

Can you provide other, older examples of hockey teams using this style of logo? The ones that are apparent are the Chicago Blackhawks (1926-55) and the London Knights (1965-78).[/quote]

Pittsburgh Penguins had that style of logo from 1968-71. The Cleveland Barons sort of had a logo like that from ’76-78. And, of course, the Wild have been using theirs for the last couple of years.[/quote]

So there’s really only one NHL team that used that style of logo for any considerable length of time. That’s why I feel it’s complete nonsense to say that the Blues alternate has any old-time hockey, nostalgic, or retro quality. The Sabres alternate is much more retro than the Blues.

I gotta agree with Kek here. John Grigg should have not gone with the retro description for the Blues, but otherwise his list is acceptable. His list does not match the UW list, but that’s just a difference of opinion. Mr. Grigg is being unfairly trashed.[/quote]

How is it unfair? He allows his opinion to be published, so he’s subject to the same scrutiny anyone else is.

A trio of Pirate outfielders, 1955: Felipe Montemayor (later saw him play as a Dodger farmhand for the St. Paul Saints as his career wound down), Roman Mejias (a fan favorite for the original Colt .45s in ’62) and, of course, Roberto Clemente (who still, I don’t think, gets enough credit for being the amazing ballplayer he was).

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I post this because of the similarities to the “new” Pirate unis and to point out that, while the Pirates may have won their titles wearing sleeves, this is NOT one of those uniforms. Actually, in the early 50’s this was the uniform of some of the worst major league teams ever assembled. Why you think the Pirates were chosen for the original ANGLES IN THE OUTFIELD. Cuz, well, Heaven help the Pirates.

So much for a “return to championship-caliber baseball”…uni-wise, anyway.

—Ricko

Did anyone post the Super Bowl XLIV logo here already? I bought the Super Bowl XLIII program last night at a store, which I’m enjoying by the way, and it had next year’s Super Bowl logo near the back.

I can post if needed.
Jason

Super Bowl XLIV logo found in SB XLIII program on page 238

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[quote comment=”311493″][quote comment=”311492″]Did anyone post the Super Bowl XLIV logo here already? I can post if needed.[/quote]

please do![/quote]
Phil, don’t you ever sleep/work/eat????

I can count on three things…death, taxes, and LI Phil burning the UniWatch midnight oil….carry on, good sir

Whatever happened to SB logos with local flavor? They’ve gone and genericized one of the best parts of the whole gig.

[quote comment=”311489″]Either that, or that a bunch of UWers were here ready for a field trip to the Pond Hockey Championships tomorrow. We could do like the kids from the daycare center, all hang onto a big robe.
—Ricko[/quote]

My Florida ass would freeze, but I’d love to go. Although I won’t be hanging onto your robe!

[quote comment=”311495″]
let me try this again…
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Not a bad logo for next year. I like the 3D/perspective aspect of it.

[quote comment=”311429″]”Pirates unveil their unis for real: link… ”

why, why. why is that stupid pirate logo on the left sleeve?!?! i hate that thing![/quote]

That link ain’t makin’ it.

[quote comment=”311500″][quote comment=”311489″]Either that, or that a bunch of UWers were here ready for a field trip to the Pond Hockey Championships tomorrow. We could do like the kids from the daycare center, all hang onto a big robe.
—Ricko[/quote]

My Florida ass would freeze, but I’d love to go. Although I won’t be hanging onto your robe!

[quote comment=”311495″]
let me try this again…
link

Not a bad logo for next year. I like the 3D/perspective aspect of it.[/quote]

Seeing as I have a penchant for always overlooking at least one typo, I’ve decided to leave one obvious one in every post…like the Navajo, who supposedly always make one figure that doesn’t match the pattern in any blanket or other design they create. They believe to attempt perfection is an affront to the gods. So that’s my new plan (I don’t know if the Navajo really do that, but I read it in a Rex Allen comic book when I was a kind so it must be true).

—Ricko

A 1965 program with the cover consisting of Rosie and Mr. Redlegs:

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[quote comment=”311507″]What is this??????

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A waste of money, even at 15 bucks.

[quote comment=”311505″]Am I the only one who hates any alt jersey where the front number is not horizontal from the logo??[/quote]
No, Marcus Hall from Baltimore, Hon!, you’re not alone. And why the hell are the numbers on the alt link? The black jersey’s got the most available space.

So they’re phasing out link? Good thing they’re using it as a sleeve patch on all their jerseys, including the undershirt of the vest.

[quote comment=”311507″]What is this??????

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something you’ll see at a thrift store for 99 cents in about 2 weeks

NASCAR night tonight in Charlotte with the Bobcats. Checkered side panels on the jerseys and shorts.

Video here: link

Photo gallery here: link

Okay, I’m sitting here indifferent about those helmets. It looks like a high school helmet, but they are unique. Maybe, just maybe, on a field, with the sun lighting them, they will look okay.

Those Rangers helmets look like total shit. And I hate the red Rangers jersey & cap. They never looked right in red. Blockshadows suck, way too much clutter.