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Paul, the link to the small photo gallery of the Phillies book needs to be fixed to remove the “” after the .html (sorry for sounding like a techie, can’t help it)

Kevin from Illinois here. I pretty much knew that our governor was a scumbag years ago but now its confirmed since he showed up with Nike on at his court appearance yesterday.

which I can’t like to, cuz you have to be registered to access it

like or link?

– Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action – anyone..? (Full listing.)

No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: link

[quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

…on another note, i know it can’t happen in the nhl, but how great a possibility for color vs. color would be the isles in blue thirds vs flyers in orange?

[quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

…on another note, i know it can’t happen in the nhl, but how great a possibility for color vs. color would be the isles in blue thirds vs flyers in orange?[/quote]

It was nationally shown on VS… I was hoping for a color on color match-up but knew it wouldn’t happan, so just one would have been nice. Instead had to look at possibly two of my least favorite uni in the league.

Those 1949 college all-star uni pants remind me a LOT of Temple’s football uniforms.

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Link maybe fixed?

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[quote comment=”304547″]The “Colorado” listing is puzzling.

Colorado College (alma mater of Gregg Easterbrook) is a private liberal arts school in Colorado Springs. The Tigers wear black and orange and still compete in big time college hockey.

University of Colorado at Boulder is a Big Twelve school. The Buffs’ colors are silver and gold, but black got thrown in about 50 years ago.

Colorado State University was Colorado A&M when my dad attended and was Colorado Agricultural College prior to that. The Aggies/Rams have always worn green and gold.

Looks like the uniform is probably Colorado College but a Colorado Ag College pennant got thrown in.[/quote]

Yes, defintely a Colorado College uniform and Colorado Agricultural College (now Colorado St) pennant.

now he can wear this full time…and crooked, of course

7 years, $160M (give or take)…christ…were yankees bidding against themselves?

[quote comment=”304555″]Ok, that link didn’t work.

On ESPN’s shopzone, the are selling Pink NFL helmets! Now that’s just crazy.[/quote]

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[quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties[/quote]

…on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

You mean take last place NHL team, move them to AHL and take AHL champ and move in NHL?

AHL champ would get killed…

[quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

It was a little disappointing the Flyers went boring black last night. They have worn the Orange for the past 3 home games since re-introducing their trademark color jersey. Knowing how agressive they are in marketing, I’d have bet they’d be wearing them every home game up until Christmas.

[quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

…on another note, i know it can’t happen in the nhl, but how great a possibility for color vs. color would be the isles in blue thirds vs flyers in orange?[/quote]

Now that would be sweet.

The Ravens coaches wore Gray Jackets. People need to adjust their TV’s. The Baltimore Sun is fish wrap at best. Rbk sucks, but they didn’t make lavender football jackets.

[quote comment=”304562″][quote comment=”304561″][quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

…on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

You mean take last place NHL team, move them to AHL and take AHL champ and move in NHL?

AHL champ would get killed…[/quote]
You would think, but this is how they do it in the English Premiership (soccer). Top 3 teams of tier 2 get promoted to tier 1 and the bottom 3 of tier 1 get relegated to tier 2. They have multiple levels and this occurs at each level.

Granted, I don’t know much about hockey (I like to watch it), but isn’t the AHL considered the “minor league” version much like MiLB?[/quote]

AHL is a sperate league than NHL, it’s just where most NHL teams keep their prospects who are not NHL ready. AHL is formed of mostly players that can’t play in the NHL with a small amount of NHL prospects that get called up and sent down thru the season. Take a AHL team that is 75% non-NHL caliper and 25% NHl prospects and play an NHL team, it’s going to be a blood bath. The skill level would be lopsided, and not to mention the size difference between the leagues. Lots of AHL call ups say the biggest difference is NHL is so must faster and the players are so much bigger.

[quote comment=”304568″]Contrary to the article about the Yankees Top Hat logo, it is the Cardinals baseball team Cardinals on bat logo/sports trademark (first worn in 1921) that is by FAR the most recognized AND best logo in sports. See this Youtube link for origins: link
Although I hate the team itself, I love the Cardinals’ uniform and logos. But you’re completely delusional if you honestly believe the bird on bat logo is more recognizable than the Yankees’ top hat.

[quote comment=”304561″][quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

…on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

You mean take last place NHL team, move them to AHL and take AHL champ and move in NHL?

AHL champ would get killed…[/quote]

Agreed, you have to realize the talent shift from one level to the next, my friend is a rookie goalie with the Bridgeport Sound Tigers of the AHL this year and he got called up to the Islanders for a few games, he played 13 minutes in relief for Macdonald(spelling) against the Bruins and got shelled. He said it was ridiculous how much faster things happen. Before getting called up he was like 6-0-1 with a .916 save percentage and like a 1. something goals against so he is no slouch. On the same note, as a goalie i used to skate with the Penguins during there conditioning camp for a month before training camp starts, the worst guy on the team at the time was Steve McKenna and he was incredible and he could’nt skate to save his life compared to everyone else there. Thank god during drills and scrimmages and stuff that they only skated at MAYBE half speed or i would have been hating life.
So i agree that the champion AHL team would get destroyed against an NHL team.

[quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties[/quote]

…on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

I think promotion/regulation and a minor league system simply can’t mix. What happens when the promoted team’s NHL parent needs to recall players?

I’m not saying the AHL team would win it all, but they certainly would be no worse than the Lightning or Senators this year…it would also make signing players a bit more interesting…

I know the AHL is not as fast/intense as the NHL, but watching some of these teams (like the Blue Jackets) are just as far away from the Stanley Cup as the Hershey Bears…

Damn, can’t believe I missed this auction – that’s the lowest price I’ve ever seen for a Packers sideline cap.

[quote comment=”304576″]the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

imo:

a. the dallas cowboys.
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Outside of North America? Not a fucking chance.

The Bills’ Whammy Weenie was an idea lifted from an old Pittsburgh Pirates tradition in the mid-’60s. Radio guy Bob Prince began touting the “power of the Green Weenie,” which was a phrase used by Pittsburgh trainer Danny Whelan, according to Wikipedia. Some enterprising person manufactured some plastic green weenies with a rattle inside.

The Pirates and Prince failed to trademark the Green Weenie. Not ready for Reebok, apparently.

[quote comment=”304576″]the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

imo:

a. the dallas cowboys.
b. the NY yankees logo.
c. the brazil kit.

(ps. i am not a fan of any of those teams, i just think that if you asked a random person in Barcelona or Hong Kong or Lima or Johanasburg, someone in those cities will know one of those logos, if not two or all three)[/quote]

what about man u?

and i gotta agree with JTH that the cowboys aren’t all that recognizable in, say, durbin, australia

Not to rehash something that has already been discussed, but I personally was a big fan of the ACU (camo) helmets that were used on Saturday for Army during the Army/Navy game. I may be biased since I was one who actually worked on the helmets and helped keep it a secret, but the thing that will stick out in my head throughout the whole process is how much the players and people involved with the football team LOVED the product! The team could not wait to put on the uniforms in front of America.

For those that are interested, All of the helmets are being auctioned off to the highest bidder. You will be able to find it under the Online Auctions link at link.

[quote comment=”304557″]Colorado College (alma mater of Gregg Easterbrook) is a private liberal arts school in Colorado Springs. The Tigers wear black and orange and still compete in big time college hockey.

CC wears black and gold, actually.[/quote]
My bad. The hockey kit looked black and orange to me last time I saw them, but if they say it’s gold, so be it.

– Awesome 1911 U. of Colorado uni here. I love that they threw in the pennant (full listing).

No way. As the “full listing” says and others have pointed out, that’s a Colorado College jersey (which is NOT the Univ. of Colorado) and a pennant from Colorado Agricultural College (which is now Colorado State U.).

Drat… here’s the link

[quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]- Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action – anyone..? (Full listing.)

No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: link

Morten Andersen wore that for years.

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He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

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Oops, Morten wore a grAy facemask while with the GIANTS.

Please don’t put me in this again:

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wasn’t really putting them in order, just saying that those would be the big three.
i agree w/ ManU, i forgot about them.

also, on WEEI today Larry L talked about the new sox gear:

Jon Meterparel: Big announcement tomorrow night. A new uniform? Is that correct?

Larry Lucchino: Well there’s an adjustment to the road uniforms that will touch upon Red Sox tradition. It’s a little back to the future kind of thing and there will be some adjustments to the logo as well so both items are going to be announced tomorrow (Thursday, December 11).

oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.

[quote comment=”304577″]Some teams like WAS have very good players in the minors. DET has very good players in their AHL affilatte in Grand Rapids. But it’s only a handful of players that can hang with NHL. Take that WHOLE team and move them up and it would be brutal.[/quote]
You’re also comparing the immediate result – NHL team vs. AHL team. If such a promotion/relegation system were ever adopted, NHL-ready players who might not get regular playing time at the top level might be more willing to kick some ass in the AHL before being promoted the next season.

Plus promoted teams tend to increase their payroll once they move to a higher division to attract stars. At least that’s how it works in England.

All of this is purely conversational because the U.S. (and Canada) would NEVER adopt a sports model used by another country, much less jolly old England.

so two things:

1 – the reebook logo on the t-shirt reminds me of how majestic ruined the mlb player shirts..you cant buy a mets, yankees, red sox, or any other player shirt without having the little majestic logo above the chest..it’s hideous

2 – are those long sleeved bp jerseys going to be used? also don’t they seema bnit useless since players have the therma base fleece anyway( which i actually like)?

Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

[quote comment=”304604″][quote comment=”304577″]Some teams like WAS have very good players in the minors. DET has very good players in their AHL affilatte in Grand Rapids. But it’s only a handful of players that can hang with NHL. Take that WHOLE team and move them up and it would be brutal.[/quote]
You’re also comparing the immediate result – NHL team vs. AHL team. If such a promotion/relegation system were ever adopted, NHL-ready players who might not get regular playing time at the top level might be more willing to kick some ass in the AHL before being promoted the next season.

Plus promoted teams tend to increase their payroll once they move to a higher division to attract stars. At least that’s how it works in England.

All of this is purely conversational because the U.S. (and Canada) would NEVER adopt a sports model used by another country, much less jolly old England.[/quote]

Agree with you there, it would never work but it’s a good debate. I’m just saying, for 75%-85% of the players in AHL, there is a reason why they are in the AHL, they’re not good enough.

[quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

What has NYC ever done to you?

also: by say that, you are essentially say “F UW” you realize…

Is there a Cal bear paw logo on the shoulders of Jahvid Best’s uni? Very subtle, but it’s there.

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[quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

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I couldn’t tell ANY soccer logos from a hole in the ground… would have no clue.

[quote comment=”304612″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

What has NYC ever done to you?

also: by say that, you are essentially say “F UW” you realize…[/quote]

au contraire

check out the link powers posted (#70)

[quote comment=”304612″]also: by say that, you are essentially say “F UW” you realize…[/quote]

actually…UW was saying FU to the yanks

[quote comment=”304616″][quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

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I couldn’t tell ANY soccer logos from a hole in the ground… would have no clue.[/quote]

Jim,

This might be more to your liking

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[quote comment=”304622″]Yeah, I kinda remembered Charlie Johnson wearing one with the Cardinals, too.

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—Ricko[/quote]

Great find! Also, an MH100 clear shell.

[quote comment=”304625″][quote comment=”304616″][quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

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I couldn’t tell ANY soccer logos from a hole in the ground… would have no clue.[/quote]

Jim,

This might be more to your liking

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Yeah, but the coolest thing is that when you play for them you get to be listed as an “hombre.” Not a lot of “hockey hombres” around the U.S. and Canada.

Well, except maybe for Teebz.

Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

I’m pretty sure that complaining about sports franchises instead of complaing about, i dunno, the auto bailout or the continued devaluation of the dollar is all that’s wrong with society. AND there are plenty of folks in NYC who don’t like the Yankees, so calm down there fella.

quote comment=\”304629\”][quote comment=\”304622\”]Yeah, I kinda remembered Charlie Johnson wearing one with the Cardinals, too.

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—Ricko[/quote]

Great find! Also, an MH100 clear shell.[/quote]

I have asked this before…but were those clear shells the forefathers of the Bike/AiR/Schutts of today?

Bob Griese wore that style, and kinda high in my estimation….

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speaking of facemasks, helmets, Griese and whatnot, I always like the nose piece that my favorite player Larry Csonka had on his helmet….

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By the way, what a picture!!! Kiick, Csonka, & Morris! Too cool!

[quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

Yeah, but with the cost of living in NY and all, it won’t last long.
(insert serious eyeroll here)

One of the reasons a relegation system would never work is business – NHL franchises might not be worth that much compared to MLB or NFL but what would it do to franchise values if there’s a risk that you won’t even be in the NHL anymore? As an NHL owner are you going to spend hundreds of millions on a franchise and arena if you run the risk of having one bad year and going to the minors?

Second business reason – are you going to replace Toronto, Montreal, LA, New York in the NHL with Albany, Moline, Peoria and Des Moines? Not very major league?

[quote comment=”304639″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

Yeah, but with the cost of living in NY and all, it won’t last long.
(insert serious eyeroll here)[/quote]

Yeah Taxi’s are expensive…. :)

[quote comment=”304641″]One of the reasons a relegation system would never work is business – NHL franchises might not be worth that much compared to MLB or NFL but what would it do to franchise values if there’s a risk that you won’t even be in the NHL anymore? As an NHL owner are you going to spend hundreds of millions on a franchise and arena if you run the risk of having one bad year and going to the minors?

Second business reason – are you going to replace Toronto, Montreal, LA, New York in the NHL with Albany, Moline, Peoria and Des Moines? Not very major league?[/quote]

Seattle supersonics got replaced (or moved) to OKC…OKC is not very major league…

Let a market grow…Green Bay would never have an NFL team today (if they didn’t previously have one, based on market size)…but yet…They have one of the most profitable franchises…

When the NHL went to Columbus…that wasn’t a MAJOR League city like Cleveland….let a market surprise you…

(and DC, for example….is failing at baseball a 3rd time…so you can’t just base it off who hasa major league/major sports team in the big 4)

[quote comment=”304643″]Yeah Taxi’s are expensive…. :)[/quote]

and they can change the fortunes of entire franchises

[quote comment=”304642″][quote comment=”304603″]Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

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I’m wondering if the purple in the logo and trim creates a visual perception of lavender whereas it’s really gray (I know there there’s some fancy word for this, but I can’t think of it right off the bat). I suppose playing around with Photoshop could help dig into this further, but alas I don’t have it with me right now.

Even covering the trim and logo in the photo it looked slightly lavender to me, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was gray.[/quote]

In my opinion, there were no color tricks, and you don’t neeed to adjust your TV sets. They were a light lavenderish/gray. As opposed to what most gray consists of, which is a blueish hue.

[quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.

Scroll down on this page. There’s an additional mock up as to what was on the Chris Creamer boards for the Red Sox. If they go to this, I think I’m a fan.

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[quote comment=”304651″][quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.[/quote]

Huh? It should be so simple. Players are taxed even when they play on the road (in most states), for the money they earn IN THAT STATE. Players’ tax returns are a nightmare. Personally, I think that’s one reason Twins want more games with Yankees. A-Rod, for example, is a helluva taxpayer wherever he plays. Means, theoretically, they could ask for more stadium money from State Gov’t. Y’know, as in, “It’s there because we play here!”

Bob Griese wore a mask like that as well.
So yes you were right about Bradshaw wearing it.
And that is the pretty much proper placement. I put one on a helmet and that was pretty much where you had to put it in order for it to be some what protective.

[quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

Why should he?[/quote]

Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?

[quote comment=”304652″][quote comment=”304649″][quote comment=”304642″][quote comment=”304603″]Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

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I’m wondering if the purple in the logo and trim creates a visual perception of lavender whereas it’s really gray (I know there there’s some fancy word for this, but I can’t think of it right off the bat). I suppose playing around with Photoshop could help dig into this further, but alas I don’t have it with me right now.

Even covering the trim and logo in the photo it looked slightly lavender to me, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was gray.[/quote]

In my opinion, there were no color tricks, and you don’t neeed to adjust your TV sets. They were a light lavenderish/gray. As opposed to what most gray consists of, which is a blueish hue.[/quote]

Well, found a program that get the RGB values for the pixels of the mentioned image, did a few sample points and the green was the lowest value for all my sample (usually about 80% or so of what the red values were, which were the highest).

What is weird is the blue values were much closer to the green values than the red. I think of purple being even red and blue, and the purple trim and logo RGB values were much more blue dominant than red…

So from all of this, I’ll conclude the jacket wasn’t a perfect gray. Anything beyond that is up for grabs.[/quote]

Lemme see if I’ve got this straight. NFL sideline gear is standardized, ordered from specific suppliers to specific standard, um…specifications every season.

This year, the neutral color for winter outerwear is gray. For everyone.

Except the Ravens. The NFL ordered a lovely lavender shade for them.

Yup, that makes sense.

I remember people who-watching Vikings on TV–would swear the Vikings unis were navy, especially during first years in Dome when the lighting wasn’t as good and before TV cameras were digital. Lighting can fool you.

It’s like those folks who still try to tell us the Yankees hats are black.

No, they’re not. But they sure as hell do look like they are sometimes.

“It should be noted that the Feds apparently offered him some time to get ready so that he could put on a suit for his court appearance. He chose to wear that instead.”

It means he consulted his attorney, who told him what to wear.

If you wear a suit they take away your tie, your belt and your shoelaces, i.e., things that you can use to choke others or yourself, when you are taken to be processed. That means you show up in court with your pants sagging down around your butt. (FYI, this is the genesis of people intentionally wearing their pants around their butt. They are emulating prisoners.)

A good defense lawyer will tell his client to wear an outfit without a belt, etc., that will keep the client warm in what can be a cold holding area, and that the client can easily wash/throw away after use.

[quote comment=”304659″]
so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

Well…

Steinbrenner does bare a resemblance to Emperor Palpatine. And Cashman uses “The Force” to get what he wants (except championships).

I’d sign with UA only if I could be the suave Han Solo and work to bring down the Empire and their evil Death Star-dium. Someone else can carry the load a la Skywalker. Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi… Powers, wanna be Skywalker? ;o) LOL

That’s what I was getting at – even non-residents must file tax returns for any state in which they make money. Athletes’ accountants are kept very busy.

But in any case, the lack of Florida state income tax has no bearing on the size of club payrolls.

“Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.

[quote comment=”304671″][quote comment=”304665″][quote comment=”304659″]
so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

Well…

Steinbrenner does bare a resemblance to Emperor Palpatine. And Cashman uses “The Force” to get what he wants (except championships).

I’d sign with UA only if I could be the suave Han Solo and work to bring down the Empire and their evil Death Star-dium. Someone else can carry the load a la Skywalker. Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi… Powers, wanna be Skywalker? ;o) LOL[/quote]

I’m in…but I am NOT making out with Carrie Fisher:

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The Force hasn’t been too kind to her…her postcards can STAY at the edge.[/quote]

Try this once again. This is what I meant to put:

By BCS ANNOUNCEMENT

December 10, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

BCS ANNOUNCES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II !

US Ranked 4th

After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

” Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland , France , Norway , Sweden , Denmark , Belgium and the Netherlands . Their only losses came against the US and Russia; however considering their entire body of work–including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule–our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking.”

Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated “The US only had two major victories– Japan and Germany . The computer models, unlike humans, aren’t influenced by head-to-head contests–they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event.”

German Chancellor Adolph Hitler said “Yes, we lost to the US ; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks.” Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn ‘style points’ to enhance Germany ‘s rankings. Hitler protested “Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces.”

The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented ” France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2.”

Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines .

Sorry about all that other stuff

WAIT A MINUTE! Sign with UA…dudn’t my head explode yesterday? I’d take down the Yankees Evil Empire, not Beaverton’s.

If that’s the case, then you might as well cast me as Darth Maul or Boba Fett.

Wouldn’t Ricko be better suited to play Grandma Tarkin?

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[quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

ricko strikes me more as link[/quote]

And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.

Don’t know if this was put out there yet, but in regards to the Isles throwback 3rd- they have been only wearing them for Saturday night home games. And since they are a “dark” (or not white) jersey, I’m thinking they will most always be worn for home games.

In my honest, I think the Isles should adopt the 3rd jersey as their primary home jersey, create a similar one for road games, and then be done with the constant jersey tinkering.

[quote comment=”304667″]That’s what I was getting at – even non-residents must file tax returns for any state in which they make money. Athletes’ accountants are kept very busy.

But in any case, the lack of Florida state income tax has no bearing on the size of club payrolls.[/quote]

This is one of life’s Jeff Dunham moments. I meant that entire thing as a joke, but all I’m getting now is ZOOM!

I’m sorry, I just keep thinking about all those pinstripes on Sabathia’s pants. My god, they’ll go on…forever.

Great bit for Sesame Street. Sabathia stands there in uniform while The Count points…

“One!
“Two!
“Three!…”

Ricko–

Skipping the long quote about the Raven’s jacket… The “standards” and lighting points are more than fair caveats to my “grade school science lab project”. I was wondering if lighting had an effect myself after posting that. Only way to build or conclude on this is study more pics or look at the damned jacket itself. And I have to do some work :-P.

I’m sure we’ll get a definative answer soon enough.

[quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

ricko strikes me more as link[/quote]

Well played!

[quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

ricko strikes me more as link[/quote]

And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?

[quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]- Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action – anyone..? (Full listing.)

No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: link

Morten Andersen wore that for years.

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He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

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Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.

[quote comment=”304690″][quote comment=”304680″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

Yeah, but as J. J. Gittes said to Noah Cross in Chinatown, How much better can he eat?

What could he buy that he couldn’t already afford?[/quote]

JJ’s judgment wasn’t exactly vindicated, was it?[/quote]

On the contrary, had Cross not been so greedy, Evelyn would still have been deeply damaged by the incest, but at least she (and Hollis, and the old drunk who drowned) would have still been alive, and Jake wouldn’t be haunted by Evelyn’s memory for the rest of his life. There wouldn’t have been much of a movie in that, though, I’ll grant you that. :-)

[quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]- Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action – anyone..? (Full listing.)

No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: link

Morten Andersen wore that for years.

link

He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

link

Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.

[quote comment=”304581″][quote comment=”304576″]the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

imo:

a. the dallas cowboys.
[/quote]
Outside of North America? Not a fucking chance.[/quote]

I find that a pretty unfounded comment considering how much of the world actually gets more football coverage than North America. But really, the Cowboys’ star is a world renowned sporting symbol and is far better recognised than you seem to think.

[quote comment=”304698″]As for the Detroit Winter Classic T-shirt, how about one of link?

No Reebok Logo. Dumb that it’s on a gray tee instead of a white one, but it looks good otherwise.[/quote]

No RBK logo? Don’t you win a trip to the Stanley Cup Finals now? :)

[quote comment=”304701″][quote comment=”304698″]As for the Detroit Winter Classic T-shirt, how about one of link?

No Reebok Logo. Dumb that it’s on a gray tee instead of a white one, but it looks good otherwise.[/quote]

No RBK logo? Don’t you win a trip to the Stanley Cup Finals now? :)[/quote]

Wait. You’re not canadian are you……

[quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]- Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action – anyone..? (Full listing.)

No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: link

Morten Andersen wore that for years.

link

He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

link

Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
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Did I leave any out?
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The Red Sox new road jerseys were up on MLB Shop last night but are now gone.

They were really plain with BOSTON across the chest in really dark navy blue with no outline.

Like this:
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…Only the writing isn’t so plain.

Not 100 percent sure, but I think the last non-kicker to wear one of those facemasks was Trent Dilfer when he was with the Bucs (soory, no pics).

I think it was only a one- or two-game thing. And I think it was Bradshaw that sent it to him. Dilfer was catching a lot of guff from Bucs fans for leading an offense that lagged behind their defense, and comparisons had been drawn (by some) to Bradshaw’s early career …

[quote comment=”304700″][quote comment=”304696″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

ricko strikes me more as link[/quote]

And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.[/quote]

It is official…we are nerds to the second degree.[/quote]

This is even harder to get thru than hockey talk. And makes me glad I’ve never seen a Stars Wars movie.

Enough with the bold already…

[quote comment=”304700″][quote comment=”304696″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

ricko strikes me more as link[/quote]

And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.[/quote]

It is official…we are nerds to the second degree.[/quote]
Also you forget that the original trilogy is actually later than the newer one so yoda would be younger

The courtroom sketch from Blagojevich’s court appearance yesterday… Complete with NIKE swoosh.

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[quote comment=”304717″]The courtroom sketch from Blagojevich’s court appearance yesterday… Complete with NIKE swoosh.

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Team Douchbag.

[quote comment=”304633″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

I’m pretty sure that complaining about sports franchises instead of complaing about, i dunno, the auto bailout or the continued devaluation of the dollar is all that’s wrong with society. AND there are plenty of folks in NYC who don’t like the Yankees, so calm down there fella.[/quote]

Bein a college kid i know about how much our economy sucks. Anyways, if you were at Miller Park for 2 of CC’s games, including his first one with the Crew, you would know how much he means to the state of Wisconsin

[quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees, but instead, is becoming one of them today. I blame the MLB players union because they told him if he didn’t take the deal from the Yanks they would be really pissed with him. And put way too much pressure on him.

I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million? The living costs in New York far exceed those of Milwaukee. The pressure of the New York media is relentless, and the expectations are way too high. In Milwaukee, CC would have been treated like royalty. You have a team in the Brewers who get an entire state excited when they make the playoffs for the first time in 26 years, while the Yankees don’t make the playoffs for the first time since ’93 and the “world is coming to an end” and it’s the headline in many papers across the country. And God forbid the Yankees haven’t won a World Series in a few years so something must be wrong with the organization, so let’s throw insane amount of cash at the biggest free agents every year just because we can.

*sigh* Sorry, rant over. This of course coming from a disgruntled Brewer fan. This is just the first of many bad things to happen this week. I am sure the Cubs will land a few top free agents this week or next, and then it’s back to fighting for the basement in the NL Central with the Pirates.[/quote]

hey man, at least were smart enough to sign Braun to that extension! For as much as i want to see CC do well as an individual, I hope he chokes in the first game at Yankee Stadium II just to spite the Steinbrenners and the players union. GO BREWERS GO

[quote comment=”304724″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

ricko strikes me more as link[/quote]

And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]

How about at 800 years old he can run and jump and flip and then at 820 he dies of old age? WTF?[/quote]
As if people didn’t already think UWers were geeks because of the whole being anal about uniforms thing….

yep, this about seals that deal

[quote comment=”304726″][quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

Why should he?[/quote]

Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.
[/quote]

What does “morals” have to do with it? Guy is a freelancer, why should he reject a legit offer from a potential employer?

You may not like the rules, but the Yankees play by them. Sounds like your gripe isn’t with the Yanks at all. And I’m a Brewers fan.[/quote]

He should reject it because they are the Yankees. Doesn’t matter if they offered $200 million. They are the Evil Empire.

[quote comment=”304725″][quote comment=”304724″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

ricko strikes me more as link[/quote]

And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]

How about at 800 years old he can run and jump and flip and then at 820 he dies of old age? WTF?[/quote]
As if people didn’t already think UWers were geeks because of the whole being anal about uniforms thing….

yep, this about seals that deal[/quote]
And your point is?

[quote comment=”304704″][quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]- Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action – anyone..? (Full listing.)

No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: link

Morten Andersen wore that for years.

link

He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

link

Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
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link
Did I leave any out?[/quote]

Namath looked like a stud regardless the facemask. I much preferred the Jets’ sleeve stripe in that era link vs. the new togs link

OK, try this link sleeve stripe.

[quote comment=”304727″][quote comment=”304726″][quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

Why should he?[/quote]

Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.
[/quote]

What does “morals” have to do with it? Guy is a freelancer, why should he reject a legit offer from a potential employer?

You may not like the rules, but the Yankees play by them. Sounds like your gripe isn’t with the Yanks at all. And I’m a Brewers fan.[/quote]

He should reject it because they are the Yankees. Doesn’t matter if they offered $200 million. They are the Evil Empire.[/quote]
Which is clever marketing on the Yankees’ part, but not really relevant.

[quote comment=”304707″]The Red Sox new road jerseys were up on MLB Shop last night but are now gone.

They were really plain with BOSTON across the chest in really dark navy blue with no outline.

Like this:
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…Only the writing isn’t so plain.[/quote]

Darn it! Nobody saved them? We managed to get the O’s and Sox caps when they were leaked.

[quote comment=”304727″][quote comment=”304726″][quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

Why should he?[/quote]

Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.
[/quote]

What does “morals” have to do with it? Guy is a freelancer, why should he reject a legit offer from a potential employer?

You may not like the rules, but the Yankees play by them. Sounds like your gripe isn’t with the Yanks at all. And I’m a Brewers fan.[/quote]

He should reject it because they are the Yankees. Doesn’t matter if they offered $200 million. They are the Evil Empire.[/quote]
They may be the Evil Empire to us fans, but obviously players don’t see it that way. Instead you get a dude like Giambi crying at his signing press conference because he always dreamed of being a Yankee, or somesuch crap. I’m sure that made A’s fans feel wonderful.

[quote comment=”304738″][quote comment=”304728″][quote comment=”304714″]Of uniwatch note, only because they generally have so many changes it takes an entire week to discuss them every year…

The Arena Football League has cancelled their 2009 season because of the economy. I’m willing to guess this will be a permanent thing and the league is now something of the past, much like the XFL.

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Kind of a shame, those games were actually somewhat fun to watch.[/quote]

Know what? In its own small way that is a truly disturbing development, in what it says about the economy. That league isn’t rich by any means, but it does have enough money to hire some pretty savvy analysts to run a feasibility study in regard to operating in 2009.

I will ask, though, because I don’t know, what is the status of their television package? Can’t take time to read the article right now. If it’s not as healthy as the deals they’ve had in recent years with NBC and ESPN, then maybe I can understand their bailing on this year.

But it’s still really unnerving, either way. It’s one thing for a league to go dark because of lack of interest, but to do so because of the economy? Especially a league that wasn’t doing all that badly, really.

Never, in almost 55 years of following sports, have I heard of such a thing.

This is not good. Not good at all.

(NO sarcasm tags)[/quote]

Now I really stepping out of my element, but aren’t a lot of businesses funded (at least in part) by sources outside of the obvious ones such as revenue directly received from operation. I know the company I work for is far to beholden on investments that until recently were fairly well sustaining. So you might be doing just fine within your operation but external factors may the thing that are cutting into a bottom line. Or not.[/quote]

It reminds of this:
Tony D’Annunzio: Give me a coke.
Danny Noonan: One coke.
Tony D’Annunzio: Hey wait a minute. That’s only 50 cents.
Danny Noonan: Yeah well Lou raised the price of coke he’s been losing at the track.

It’s just… unnerving. Usually sports organizations find a way to keep on keepin’ on. And that league’s been around for, what, 21 seasons now?

I didn’t realize Tom Benson had folded the Voodoo. That I can sorta see. His city is still recovering from Katrina.

And just the other day, didn’t the Houston Comets fold cuz couldn’t find a buyer? No matter what you think about the WNBA, it just isn’t a good sign when teams that could at least function now start disappearing because the economy sucks.

Not saying have a explanation. It just feels…ominous.

Of course, GM is on the verge of bankruptcy, too, so I guess that should have been another hint.
(forehead slap)

[quote comment=”304637″]Bob Griese wore that style, and kinda high in my estimation….

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speaking of facemasks, helmets, Griese and whatnot, I always like the nose piece that my favorite player Larry Csonka had on his helmet….

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By the way, what a picture!!! Kiick, Csonka, & Morris! Too cool![/quote]

Nose bumper/guard? I forget the official name but Howie Long wore one towards the end of his career, albeit not quite as prominent as Csonka’s. link

[quote comment=”304743″]It’s just… unnerving. Usually sports organizations find a way to keep on keepin’ on. And that league’s been around for, what, 21 seasons now?

I didn’t realize Tom Benson had folded the Voodoo. That I can sorta see. His city is still recovering from Katrina.

And just the other day, didn’t the Houston Comets fold cuz couldn’t find a buyer? No matter what you think about the WNBA, it just isn’t a good sign when teams that could at least function now start disappearing because the economy sucks.

Not saying have a explanation. It just feels…ominous.

Of course, GM is on the verge of bankruptcy, too, so I guess that should have been another hint.
(forehead slap)[/quote]
On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…

the yankees play in da bronx

[quote comment=”304750″][quote comment=”304747″]On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…[/quote]

Excellent point, but it’s the Bronx, not Brooklyn.

Brooklynites have their own issues……[/quote]
Whatever…. don’t care enough to have gotten it right

you’re lucky I got the first letter right

[quote comment=”304747″][quote comment=”304743″]It’s just… unnerving. Usually sports organizations find a way to keep on keepin’ on. And that league’s been around for, what, 21 seasons now?

I didn’t realize Tom Benson had folded the Voodoo. That I can sorta see. His city is still recovering from Katrina.

And just the other day, didn’t the Houston Comets fold cuz couldn’t find a buyer? No matter what you think about the WNBA, it just isn’t a good sign when teams that could at least function now start disappearing because the economy sucks.

Not saying have a explanation. It just feels…ominous.

Of course, GM is on the verge of bankruptcy, too, so I guess that should have been another hint.
(forehead slap)[/quote]
On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…[/quote]

“The rich get rich and the poor get poorer,
“in the meantime, in between time,
“ain’t we got fun.”

The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”

[quote comment=”304741″][quote comment=”304738″][quote comment=”304728″][quote comment=”304714″]Of uniwatch note, only because they generally have so many changes it takes an entire week to discuss them every year…

The Arena Football League has cancelled their 2009 season because of the economy. I’m willing to guess this will be a permanent thing and the league is now something of the past, much like the XFL.

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Kind of a shame, those games were actually somewhat fun to watch.[/quote]

Know what? In its own small way that is a truly disturbing development, in what it says about the economy. That league isn’t rich by any means, but it does have enough money to hire some pretty savvy analysts to run a feasibility study in regard to operating in 2009.

I will ask, though, because I don’t know, what is the status of their television package? Can’t take time to read the article right now. If it’s not as healthy as the deals they’ve had in recent years with NBC and ESPN, then maybe I can understand their bailing on this year.

But it’s still really unnerving, either way. It’s one thing for a league to go dark because of lack of interest, but to do so because of the economy? Especially a league that wasn’t doing all that badly, really.

Never, in almost 55 years of following sports, have I heard of such a thing.

This is not good. Not good at all.

(NO sarcasm tags)[/quote]

Now I really stepping out of my element, but aren’t a lot of businesses funded (at least in part) by sources outside of the obvious ones such as revenue directly received from operation. I know the company I work for is far to beholden on investments that until recently were fairly well sustaining. So you might be doing just fine within your operation but external factors may the thing that are cutting into a bottom line. Or not.[/quote]

It reminds of this:
Tony D’Annunzio: Give me a coke.
Danny Noonan: One coke.
Tony D’Annunzio: Hey wait a minute. That’s only 50 cents.
Danny Noonan: Yeah well Lou raised the price of coke he’s been losing at the track.[/quote]

But D’Annunzio was an educated consumer, he knew that he had other options within the marketplace, thus replying, “I ain’t payin’ fifty cents for no coke”.

[quote comment=”304755″]And the mysterious “Senate Candidate #5” is…

Jesse Jackson, Jr.!!

Quick, someone go order a White Sox jersey with JACKSON #5 on it. Wait, Jackson 5? Holy Crap![/quote]

It’s as easy as A-B-C, Stuby. ;o)

[quote comment=”304758″][quote comment=”304755″]And the mysterious “Senate Candidate #5” is…

Jesse Jackson, Jr.!!

Quick, someone go order a White Sox jersey with JACKSON #5 on it. Wait, Jackson 5? Holy Crap![/quote]

It’s as easy as A-B-C, Stuby. ;o)[/quote]

You still haven’t eaten lunch, have you?

[quote comment=”304754″]The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”[/quote]

The example kinda breaks down, though, by the fact that the Yankees aren’t breaking any rules.

You might as well castigate the Yankees for taking 5 items into the “5-items-or-less” line at the store.

The solution is to change the rules, not blame teams that use them to their benefit.

At least I got the right amount of “e”s in Teebz.

[quote comment=”304746″]OK. An end to the “lavender” jacket debate. This just popped up on baltimoresun.com:

So what is the truth? According to Ravens Director of Media Relations Chad Steele — who emailed me to clear things up — they’re all silver.

Kevin and Candus,

Just wanted to drop you a quick note in regards to your “Faceoff” yesterday about the coaches jackets on Sunday. Our coaches sideline jackets are silver, not lavender. From what I understand on some TV sets they looked lavender, but on others, they do look their true color. As an aside, the franchises do choose the color of their sideline gear, Reebok designs the apparel as far as color and style and the organizations just order the amount of what styles they receive.[/quote]

So I ask, what’s so wrong with silver and a light lavenderish hue? Just say silver Chad…………it’s silver.

Thanks for the clarification Rick.

Today’s UW comments recap:

wah, wah, wah Yankees
sob, sob, sob Evil Empire
Yoda, Ricko, Yoda
weep, weep, weep Sabathia
sniffle, sniffle, sniffle it’s not fair

Nothing but a lot of hatin’, it’s not a good look. If you think the Yanks are the beginning and end of what’s wrong with MLB, think again.

Question:
Who had the first million dollar contract? Was that player a Yankee?

The thing about the Yankees is that they are greedy. They have 26 championships, right? They missed the playoffs this year for the first time since 1993 and all the Yankees fans are pissed off about it, while over in Milwaukee, they make the playoffs, and it connects an entire state. The thing with big markets and big money is that, in my opinion, it makes the team, owners, fans greedy and have the “championship or nothing” motto. One team is not going to win it every year. And that is what makes winning a championship so special, that it doesn’t happen all the time. But, the Yankees, along with some other teams go by the golden rule…”he who has the gold, rules”.

The Yankees aren’t done with free agency. And by the start of the season they will have accumulated an All-Star team. If the Yankees want to buy a championship, just let them have one and don’t bother playing the games.

[quote comment=”304769″][quote comment=”304766″][quote comment=”304746″]OK. An end to the “lavender” jacket debate. This just popped up on baltimoresun.com:

So what is the truth? According to Ravens Director of Media Relations Chad Steele — who emailed me to clear things up — they’re all silver.

Kevin and Candus,

Just wanted to drop you a quick note in regards to your “Faceoff” yesterday about the coaches jackets on Sunday. Our coaches sideline jackets are silver, not lavender. From what I understand on some TV sets they looked lavender, but on others, they do look their true color. As an aside, the franchises do choose the color of their sideline gear, Reebok designs the apparel as far as color and style and the organizations just order the amount of what styles they receive.[/quote]

So I ask, what’s so wrong with silver and a light lavenderish hue? Just say silver Chad…………it’s silver.

Thanks for the clarification Rick.[/quote]

We needed to call the Ravens to learn what we could see from other games all season, and what we should well know as uni geeks…that NFL sideline gear is standard leaguewide and produced by a contracted suppliers?

C’mon, people, we’re too good at this to have bought into that.

A little common sense and knowledge, largely starting with that idiot Baltimore reporter, would have been nice.

“Well,” thought the observant scribe, “the jackets looked kinda lavender in that light, so they must be lavender.” I suppose after the game he went to a strip club and screamed, “My god, that chick is BLUE!!! No, wait, now she’s RED!!!”[/quote]
HA! Glad I wasn’t enjoying a beverage when I read that last line!

[quote comment=”304765″]Oh fuck that

Of all times for the Yankees to go out and overspend for every big name in the market, they do it when the economy is in the absolute shitter. They’re flaunting their wealth in the face of every American, most of which have either lost their house, lost their retirement savings, lost their job, or some sort of combination of them all. They’re throwing up a giant middle finger to the common man because they can. You might not be able to afford to get groceries, but fuck you, the Yankees are going to spend their $300 million per season and not think twice.[/quote]

Not that I’m defending the Yankees, but that’s what rich people do. They couldn’t care less about the little guy until it starts to affect them. That’s when they suddenly decide to find religion and push for fiscal responibility.

Look at the auto industry or the banking industry. While thousands of auto workers were laid off and thousands of people lost their houses because of subprime mortgages, the fat cats in charge of the Big Three and the banks just sat back, enjoyed their salaries and the various perks of their lifestyles, and basically didn’t give a crap that the little guys were suffering. But once the very real threat of bankruptcy loomed and losing their jobs and the perks associated with it became a possible reality, the rich guys ran to Capitol Hill with hands outstretched crying poverty. And in private jets and $2000 suits, no less.

The Yankees don’t care what you think. They don’t care that the average customer is priced out of their new stadium. They don’t care that the neighborhood kids don’t have ballfields to play on because they took the land and now aren’t exactly in a rush to build replacement fields for them like they said they would. They don’t care that they are spending the GDP of a small nation on C(rispy) C(reme) Sabathia. They don’t care. Unless and until people don’t start showing up to the stadium , people don’t buy Yankee merchandise, people don’t pay $8 for a beer, what the average fan thinks about the fiscal irresponsibility of their spending is of little to no concern to them. As long as they rake in the dough, and people continue paying for whatever product they put out on the field, they’ll continue spending (wasting?) more and more money.

The payroll will eventually hit $300 million, and the Yankees will just chalk it up to the cost of doing business and take their lumps in the media. Why? Because someone out there will pay for it and continue paying whatever it costs to go a game. And until someone draws a line and says “no, we’re not going to subsidize this anymore” and hurts the Yankees where it counts the most, in their collective pockets, it will remain that way.

[quote comment=”304770″]The thing about the Yankees is that they are greedy. They have 26 championships, right? They missed the playoffs this year for the first time since 1993 and all the Yankees fans are pissed off about it, while over in Milwaukee, they make the playoffs, and it connects an entire state. The thing with big markets and big money is that, in my opinion, it makes the team, owners, fans greedy and have the “championship or nothing” motto. One team is not going to win it every year. And that is what makes winning a championship so special, that it doesn’t happen all the time. But, the Yankees, along with some other teams go by the golden rule…”he who has the gold, rules”.

.[/quote]

I for one don’t subscribe to that theory, I think seasons can have levels of success. For example any season a team makes the playoffs is a success IMO. Obviously the main goal should be a championship, but I don’t think that should define the season either.
That being said, are the Boston/New York/Chicago/Insert Big Market supposed to stop trying, or say “Well we’ve won before, lets bow out for a few years to give other teams a shot.” That’s insane.

The Mets need a closer. The Mets give 12.3M/yr to K-Rod, a guy who may or may not pitch 1 inning a game depending on the circumstances.

Hardly a word uttered.

The Yanks need a starter. The Yanks give 23M/yr to CC, who, on the other hand, actually still pitches complete games.

It’s the end of the freakin’ world.

In the 1950’s people bitched about the Yankees trying to buy pennants.

The wife of my first partner once asked, at a dinner party back then, “How do they decide who plays the Yankees in the World Series every year?”

Yankees are who they are. And they are perceived the way they’re perceived.

What we have learned today, btw, is that to draw a lot of comment, we should discuss the Yankees, lavender sideline parkas and Star Wars.

Oh shit. We ARE geeks.

[quote comment=”304776″]I for one don’t subscribe to that theory, I think seasons can have levels of success. For example any season a team makes the playoffs is a success IMO. Obviously the main goal should be a championship, but I don’t think that should define the season either.
That being said, are the Boston/New York/Chicago/Insert Big Market supposed to stop trying, or say “Well we’ve won before, lets bow out for a few years to give other teams a shot.” That’s insane.[/quote]

The problem is that with the Yankees, either through their spending, attitude of the front office, various soundbites from George and Hank, attitudes of the fans, whatever, the prevalent frame of mind amongst the Yankees and their followers is that making the playoffs is not enough. It has to culminate in a championship or else the season is considered a disappointment. I am of your thinking, that anytime a team makes the playoffs the season should be considered a success, but the reality is that this holds true for 99% of the teams in baseball. And then there’s the Yankees. For the Yankees, a championship is the only way to define success.

No one is saying that the Yankees, or Sawx, or Cubbies, or anyone should stop trying. Far from it. What I think irks a lot of people is that the Yankees last season wasted no time in telling the world that the recent Yankee mode of doing business i.e. throwing cash at the hottest free agents and hoping to get out of the first round of the playoffs wasn’t working, and now they were going to go with their young pitchers and ,while they would suffer some growing pains at first, in the long run it would be the best thing for the franchise. Then they miss the playoffs. So what do they do the following year? Fiscal responsibility and future prosperity be damned. Let’s just open up the wallet and throw money at the hottest free agent. And while we’re at it, let’s throw money at all of the hot free agent pitchers. Phil Who? Ian What? Joba Where? Youth movement? What’s that?

Like I said before, everyone ridiculed and absolutely destroyed Tom Hicks when he bid against himself to sign A-Rod. One of the reasons cited was that A-Rod was not going to singlehandedly solve all his team’s problems. So now the Yanks sign Sabathia, and the first thing that the area papers and ESPN mention after the signing is that (a) they bid against themselves to sign him, and (b) Sabathia is not going to singlehandedly solve all the team’s problems. I know for a lot of Yanke fans that jumped on the “Tom Hicks is an idiot” bandwagon when he signed A-Rod, yet I guarantee you they’ll just shrug their shoulders with the CC signing and defend it as the Yankees doing what they have to do to win. Which is an absurd notion, because the Yankees have been doing nothing but winning for the last decade.

I agree that MLB’s problems run deeper than the way the Yankees spend their money. In fact, the Hicks signing did a helluva lot of damage to MLB. But by that same token, no one can sit there and say that what the Yankees are doing isn’t hurting baseball either. Because when there’s a term for what the Yankees do, “Yankee money”, and every major free agent declaration is met with “well, he’s going to have to decide whether he’s going to take Yankee money or settle for another team’s offer”, there’s a problem.

[quote comment=”304778″]The Mets need a closer. The Mets give 12.3M/yr to K-Rod, a guy who may or may not pitch 1 inning a game depending on the circumstances.

Hardly a word uttered.

The Yanks need a starter. The Yanks give 23M/yr to CC, who, on the other hand, actually still pitches complete games.

It’s the end of the freakin’ world.[/quote]

There’s a few reasons for that:

(1) The Mets didn’t pay the GDP of a small nation to buy K-Rod’s services

(2) The Mets didn’t bid against themselves to get K-Rod’s services.

(3) The Mets didn’t go talk tough and say “this offer is not going to be on the table forever” and then run to K-Rod and offer him more money to sign with them even though no other team was even close to what they were offering.

I’m just saying.

The first $1M/yr player was actually Pete Rose, in 1979, when he signed a 5-yr contract with the Phillies. (That’s $2.8M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars)

However, Dave Winfield signed a 10 yr/$21M contract with the Yankees in 1981, making him the first $2M/yr player. (That’s $4.5M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars).

[quote comment=”304786″]The first $1M/yr player was actually Pete Rose, in 1979, when he signed a 5-yr contract with the Phillies. (That’s $2.8M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars)

However, Dave Winfield signed a 10 yr/$21M contract with the Yankees in 1981, making him the first $2M/yr player. (That’s $4.5M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars).[/quote]

Pete Rose’s contract in 1979 was 4 years for $3.2m (the biggest salary ever to that date but not a million dollars per year)

According to Baseball Almanac, the first million dollar player was Nolan Ryan in 1979.

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[quote comment=”304765″][quote comment=”304762″][quote comment=”304754″]The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”[/quote]

The example kinda breaks down, though, by the fact that the Yankees aren’t breaking any rules.

You might as well castigate the Yankees for taking 5 items into the “5-items-or-less” line at the store.

The solution is to change the rules, not blame teams that use them to their benefit.[/quote]
Oh fuck that

Of all times for the Yankees to go out and overspend for every big name in the market, they do it when the economy is in the absolute shitter. They’re flaunting their wealth in the face of every American, most of which have either lost their house, lost their retirement savings, lost their job, or some sort of combination of them all. They’re throwing up a giant middle finger to the common man because they can. You might not be able to afford to get groceries, but fuck you, the Yankees are going to spend their $300 million per season and not think twice.[/quote]

yup.
thats exactly the thought process that went through the yankees’ collective minds as they signed a free agent baseball player. “lets say fuck you to everyone in the country because we depend on them spending the money they dont have anymore to come see our spectacle.”
look, i hate the yankees too. i hate the excesses, i hate the bidding against themselves, i hate how they buy the entire free agent market when they can. but lets be serious. they arent trying to say “fuck you” to the common man. they are doing what they do every offseason. why is this a surprise to anyone? they went after the biggest name on the list. its what the yankees have done since the seventies (or 1918, if youre a sawx fan). this is nothing new. and it gets the same angry response every year.
and as for wanting cc to turn down the yankees because its the “right thing to do” and because they are “the evil empire,” thats a bit of a stretch. this is baseball. no one lives or dies because of the yankees (no one sane, anyway). yes the very name “yankees” is ripe with excess, but do you really think when a deal is on the table a player stops and says to himself “people think this is the evil empire im signing with… should i think of them instead of my playing career?” no. why would they? cc was a free agent in a job market and a very good job opportunity with amazing pay was offered to him. i cant blame him for a second for taking that opportunity.

[quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

Settle down, dude. The CC signing just proves the Yankees have learned nothing in the past few years. If they think CC will still be worth $23 mill in 7 years when he’s 35 and pushing 4-bills they will be in for a rude awakening. And check out his career playoff stats. Yikes!

I’m still contemplating how many pinstripes there’ll be around each thigh of Sabbathia’s pantlegs. Gotta be a Yankee record.

But that’s just me. LOL

—Ricko

[quote comment=”304795″][quote comment=”304775″][quote comment=”304677″]WAIT A MINUTE! Sign with UA…dudn’t my head explode yesterday? I’d take down the Yankees Evil Empire, not Beaverton’s.

If that’s the case, then you might as well cast me as Darth Maul or Boba Fett.

Wouldn’t Ricko be better suited to play Grandma Tarkin?

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Assuming this was intentional, but you did know that it is Grand Moff Tarkin, right? :D[/quote]

Yes, and the little rat muppet thing at Jabba’s side is Selacious Crumb who stands closely to the Twi’lek Bib Fortuna…

Football Helmets, sneakers, Star Wars, and Lord of the Rings…I am basically a pledge of the Tri-lams:

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And by the way, the link didn’t work before:

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“You’ll shoot your thigh out!”

Concerning the Yanks offseason moves, the sons are behaving like Dad. Spend too much money on free agents, ( CC, D-Lowe? Burnett? Petite? Sheets?)All too old/injuries to be getting those long contracts. Go Sox, Go Nats

[quote comment=”304796″][quote comment=”304795″]And by the way, the link didn’t work before:

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“You’ll shoot your thigh out!”[/quote]

ban?

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[quote comment=”304804″]First Jewish Mets fan to buy a JJ jersey is a putz![/quote]

oy

zai gezunt heilman

[quote comment=”304806″]link?[/quote]

shut the fuck up! now…vader, he’s a spiritual brother, y’know, down with the force and all that good shit…then this cracker, skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he’s gonna run the fuckin’ universe…gets a whole clan of whites together…and they go and bust up vader’s hood, the death star…

now what the fuck do you call that?

[quote comment=”304807″][quote comment=”304806″]link?[/quote]

shut the fuck up! now…vader, he’s a spiritual brother, y’know, down with the force and all that good shit…then this cracker, skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he’s gonna run the fuckin’ universe…gets a whole clan of whites together…and they go and bust up vader’s hood, the death star…

now what the fuck do you call that?[/quote]
What the heck, Hecken? Slightly racist?

[quote comment=”304810″][quote comment=”304808″]Whats a Nubian?[/quote]

you got the lines backwards…but in that vein

darth vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, nubian god![/quote]
Did you actually want the next line? Sorry.

OK…

“Intergalactic civil war?”

[quote comment=”304812″]gentrification! they gon’ drive out the black element to make the galaxy ‘safe’ for white folks…and Jedi’s the most insulting installment…because vader’s beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man!

they tryin’ to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white![/quote]
Well, isn’t that true?
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Thank you and good night.

[quote comment=”304814″]link

g’nite[/quote]
link.
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I’m really done now.

[quote comment=”304809″][quote comment=”304807″][quote comment=”304806″]link?[/quote]

shut the fuck up! now…vader, he’s a spiritual brother, y’know, down with the force and all that good shit…then this cracker, skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he’s gonna run the fuckin’ universe…gets a whole clan of whites together…and they go and bust up vader’s hood, the death star…

now what the fuck do you call that?[/quote]
What the heck, Hecken? Slightly racist?[/quote]

yes

Any body else watching the WNFR (Wrangler National Finals Rodeo) tonight and notice just about link was wearing pink? What’s up with that?

[quote comment=”304794″]I’m still contemplating how many pinstripes there’ll be around each thigh of Sabbathia’s pantlegs. Gotta be a Yankee record.

But that’s just me. LOL

—Ricko[/quote]
Probably more than David Wells, but not as many as link from the old days with the Rockies.

[quote comment=”304794″]I’m still contemplating how many pinstripes there’ll be around each thigh of Sabbathia’s pantlegs. Gotta be a Yankee record.

But that’s just me. LOL

—Ricko[/quote]
It’s not only the amount of the pinstripes, Ricko. The guy is also, like, 6’7″ so the overall length of the pinstripes, if laid end to end, could possibly reach his hometown in Northern California.