Duty, Honor, Country

i’m not at all sure what to think about those uniforms…i like that nike is trying to do something a little more unique and tailored to each school.

i like the red stripes for navy as well as the marines logo.

i did not see the blue angels wings on the shoulders, just some bulky yokes.

(ps. that gold that they use, the same as the Rams, sucks. go back to GOLD, like the bruins or the packers use. and blue. like navy (NAVY) used to use…no more flashy gold. Dance Fever called, they want their disco threads back.)

army. wow.

i wonder if Air Force will be included in new uni’s for military games next year?

I think the military uni’s are awesome! It probably is just a gimmick by Nike, but the different elements and shout outs to tradition are wonderful!

Phil, terrific column. I saw the “West Point” language on one leg, but never saw the writing in the other leg for Army – great catch! I thought the uniforms were really nice. The camo just fits Army, and the splash of gold and blue for Navy really worked. I also like the idea of putting an anchor on the helmet.

Overall, a very good uni day for the service academies.

Couple of things, It’s called the Eagle, Globe and Anchor, not Globe and Anchor. Also, the “blood stripe” on the unis is closer to what officers wear on their evening dress trousers, not the dress blue trousers. Finally the Army uniforms were totally ridiculous.

Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.

I liked the Navy pants, and Marine logo on the jersey…shoulder boards were just OK.

Loved the Army unis. Slogans should be cut out completely though as it seems alittle absurd….what if Alabama had Rammer Jammer on the pants…brutal

Maybe unit patches should be stickers on the helmets…

[quote comment=”303916″]Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.[/quote]
That need to “rip on Ohio State” couldn’t possibly stem from the fact that NFL players feel the need to shout “THE!… Ohio State University” during TV introductions, could it?

Here is a little info about Harlequins Rugby Club/Rugby League.

According to wikipedia, the design for Haqlequins’ Rugby League home shirt is very similar to the union club’s famous multi-colored quartered jersey (light blue, magenta, chocolate, French grey, black & light green). It does, however, incorporate a Rugby League twist with the quarters forming a slight “v” shape.

That means that the team have six official colors.
Most teams at most have four, but six!!

Home uniform

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Paul would love their socks.

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Away uniform, probably during warmups for a match because it looks like the players have their initials on their shorts.

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Away uniform from the front

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Navy was OK, Army was terrible. The camo and the woodmarks were ridiculous, full stop.

When all the other teams that have done military tributes and wear camouflage, I can’t stand it. But to me, the Army players are the ones who have the right to. Visually appealing or not.
I know the the digital camouflage looked a little washed out and hard to see, but, um…. that’s exact definition of camouflage.

I was expecting an unmitigated disaster, but I liked the effort. The cammo numbers were a little much though. I did like the Duty Honor Country, but not so much the words on the pants. I also think I saw a “The Corps” across the bottom of an Army helmet or two.

I liked the Navy’s unis too. On tv the red stripe on the pants was VERY hard to see. It just looked gold until they showed a close up. The pants looked sharp though.

Finally, the unit patches don’t bother me at all, and even if they are a little big, its a reminder that these young men aren’t playing football for the chance at a big payday. Those patches represent all the soldiers, sailors, and marines that they will someday be asked to lead.

[quote comment=”303920″][quote comment=”303916″]Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.[/quote]
That need to “rip on Ohio State” couldn’t possibly stem from the fact that NFL players feel the need to shout “THE!… Ohio State University” during TV introductions, could it?[/quote]

sorry…”TOSU” wasn’t meant to be a ‘shot’ at OSU (Ohio State), just makes it more quickly identifiable than typing out “ohio state university”, since OSU could also be the beavers or the cowboys, and not necessarily the buckeyes

as far as what JTH said…he’s right, you know

I’m just thankful there isn’t a University for Barbers. Imagine what THOSE pants would look like.

Or Upholstery. Paisely jerseys? A nice designer plaid? Perhaps rich, Corinthian leather with hammered brass tacks?

Or Millinery? A dust ruffle at the knees?

(shudder)

I love the Army unis! And those Speed helmets looked so great!

How can the Milan-Palermo matchup be a worst uni matchup? Both teams play in their traditional colors. Should Palermo abandon their colorf in favour of a hipper color? This is european football, not a franchise driven system.

[quote comment=”303920″][quote comment=”303916″]Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.[/quote]
That need to “rip on Ohio State” couldn’t possibly stem from the fact that NFL players feel the need to shout “THE!… Ohio State University” during TV introductions, could it?[/quote]

…ditto that. I don’t understand it, nor do I (or anyone from area outside 4-letter states with 3 vowels) think that it’s clever. It’s not as if there’s much confusion as to which state university in Ohio they’re referring to. It’s the galdarn flagship campus. We’re not dumb. We know this. Get down from your horse tOSU fans and please quit making the BigTen look bad by getting blown out in more national games.

Kudos, however, to tOSU for the sparkly helmets and Buckeyes (awesome), beautiful football unis and an amazing stadium.

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Also, the commas after “DUTY” and “HONOR” looked like periods (DUTY. HONOR. COUNTRY), so it just looked like they forgot to put one after “COUNTRY”.
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I was just going to comment on the same thing. It needed that third period or a better design for the commas.

[quote comment=”303928″][quote comment=”303920″][quote comment=”303916″]Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.[/quote]
That need to “rip on Ohio State” couldn’t possibly stem from the fact that NFL players feel the need to shout “THE!… Ohio State University” during TV introductions, could it?[/quote]

sorry…”TOSU” wasn’t meant to be a ‘shot’ at OSU (Ohio State), just makes it more quickly identifiable than typing out “ohio state university”, since OSU could also be the beavers or the cowboys, and not necessarily the buckeyes

as far as what JTH said…he’s right, you know[/quote]
By the way, I didn’t mean to imply that I agreed with Richard’s inference that you were ripping or mocking The Ohio State University in any way. I, on the other hand, was definitely mocking.

For the record, TOSU currently has far better program than the link, and I’ve gotten over it.

I personally thought TOSU was pretty clever. I don’t have a problem with referring to it as the Ohio State University. I think it’s intended more to specify which state university you’re referring to (the OHIO state university) than to say “we’re from THE university, you’re from A university,” and it’s a shame NFL players had to ruin that.

[quote comment=”303941″]I really liked Navy’s pants.
I wish the Marines would get a big time academy. Coast Guard too. I would go back to school if that happened.
The Marines could be “The Leathernecks”. Obviously.
The Coast Guard could be called “The Coast Guarders”. They could have an orange yoke that extends down the front of the jersey, replicating a life jacket.
Feed mayonnaise to the tuna.[/quote]

Didn’t Otto Graham coach the Coast Guard Acadamey football team at one time?

So what if the AC Milan-Palermo matchup featured their traditional jerseys? It was still ugly and when combined with the ball design and the hideous color worn by the ref (and, most likely, the goalkeepers) it was an explosion of color. That’s why I nominated it.

[quote comment=”303945″]my Army – Navy thoughts….

the military academies are not normal universities, and their traditions are more than simple school spirit. i’m a Texas grad, but my pride for the Longhorns is not the same as a West Point grad’s pride for the Army. plus, you add on the large number of enlisted soldiers/sailers/marines, etc that have a connection to the academies without ever attending, simply because of their association with the armed forces, and it makes the military academies unique. therefore, i applaud the interesting unis. maybe there were a few too many swooshes, or maybe the pants would have been better with just camo accents… either way, i like the fact that tied in their unique aspects and traditions…[/quote]
Happy birthday!

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Happy birthday![/quote]

Why thank you, fine sir! :)

The Army-Navy game is usually a big bore, so the uniform switch was awesome! I would love to see Army go to that camo uniform 90% of the time.

I definitely fall in to the category of liking both unis. Sure, I’d agree with Army using White numbers on the jerseys instead of cammo, but really no complaints here. I thought Navy’s uni’s were absolutely gorgeous, actually.

One thing I noticed on Navy’s uni was that the Nike swoosh on the jersey was right in the middle of the chest. Usually they have it off to the left (army’s were this way) but I guess because of the large yokes/the two patches some players had to wear, the swoosh moved to the middle. I understand why they had to do this, but it does seem to make it more prominent, which obviously I’m less of a fan of. Still, that’s the way the business works, so whatever.

I saw a couple posts that said they thought the patches were too big on the Army/Navy uniforms. I don’t know about Navy, but the Army unit patches are the same size as the ones worn on official uniforms, so I can definitely understand why the sizes were the way they were.
It would have been a nice touch (and keeping with the camo theme) if the Army players wore the drab-colored unit patches that are used on their battle-uniforms instead of the colored ones that are worn on the dress uniforms.

[quote comment=”303951″][quote comment=”303920″][quote comment=”303916″]Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.[/quote]
That need to “rip on Ohio State” couldn’t possibly stem from the fact that NFL players feel the need to shout “THE!… Ohio State University” during TV introductions, could it?[/quote]They are officially “The Ohio State University.”[/quote]

The full name of Va Tech is Virginia Polytechnic and State University, but I din’t hear any of their NFL players saying that. Personally I plame the University itself, they’re the one that said “We want to be called The Ohio State University” a few years ago.

Saints in monochrome black today.

[quote comment=”303954″]I definitely fall in to the category of liking both unis. Sure, I’d agree with Army using White numbers on the jerseys instead of cammo, but really no complaints here. I thought Navy’s uni’s were absolutely gorgeous, actually.

One thing I noticed on Navy’s uni was that the Nike swoosh on the jersey was right in the middle of the chest. Usually they have it off to the left (army’s were this way) but I guess because of the large yokes/the two patches some players had to wear, the swoosh moved to the middle. I understand why they had to do this, but it does seem to make it more prominent, which obviously I’m less of a fan of. Still, that’s the way the business works, so whatever.[/quote]
Michigan’s football uniforms had its one Swoosh on the neck too, as opposed to on the side. (Notice “had,” as Michigan is an Adidas school now. Picture it link.)
*Potentially controversial opinion alert: I think I like it better this way. All Swooshes should be on the neckline, or maybe let them go “pro-style” above the sleeve numbers. But when the Swoosh is on the upper left chest (like most cases), it can result in a big cluster-fuck, depending on the school. Captains’ C’s, bowl patches, scholarship patches, conference patches, etc…there’s only so much room on a jersey for all those patches, and nobody will cover a Swoosh, so that means there is less available space than you think.
Not that I’m endorsing so many gratuitous patches. I’m resigned to accept them as inevitable. So might as well make room for them, at the expense of the Swoosh. (Plus, neck Swooshes are smaller than most other Swooshes.)

My uni vote:
Army: thumbs up
Navy: thumbs down

I just didn’t like the shoulders on Navy as to me it looked awkward. The only thing I didn’t like about Army’s was the name plate (over kill). I thought the helmet’s & pants were great!

[quote comment=”303957″]as a michigan fan, i’ve now had about a month to look at michigan’s adidas bball unis. yesterday was the first look at the maize unis, normally worn for big games. is it me, or do michigan’s unis look almost retro, or high school-ish. i know they are plain, and i love them that way. but i just can’t put my finger on it. something about them just doesn’t seem right…

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Classic, clean and altogether an aestheic kit. However, I agree that something seems to be missing. Did Michigan ever have a side panel-to-shorts strip, or something of that sort? Here’s a womens’ bball pic – I like the double blue side panel stripe,
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Maybe what’s missing is the top of the shorts stripe from years past –
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…okay, I’m done. It’s too cold in Minnesota to futz with linking today. Please take my word on that link.

[quote comment=”303957″]as a michigan fan, i’ve now had about a month to look at michigan’s adidas bball unis. yesterday was the first look at the maize unis, normally worn for big games. is it me, or do michigan’s unis look almost retro, or high school-ish. i know they are plain, and i love them that way. but i just can’t put my finger on it. something about them just doesn’t seem right…

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theyre impossibly boring?

[quote comment=”303971″][quote comment=”303968″]…okay, I’m done. It’s too cold in Minnesota to futz with linking today. Please take my word on that link.[/quote]

This cold snap in the midwest sucks, doesn’t it?

In my neck of the woods, we’re getting a solid snowfall and it feels like -13F with the wind.

Oh, and it’s 32F a mere six hours to the west.[/quote]

says here it’s -15

;o)

One thing that I didn’t see discussed about the Army helmets was the matte finish.

Am I right in thinking this is something completely new? I don’t remember ever seeing a matte finish on a football helmet before.

Its something I’ve thought about before, that some helmets would look great with a matte finish – Steelers or Bears for example.

Thoughts?

Not to wade too deeply into the tOSU debate, but the argument about “it’s in the official name” has never carried too much water with me. If you look, it’s in a *lot* of college names. I believe it’s “The Pennsylvania State University,” and I know that my dear, dear alma mater is “The Ohio University.”

The only thing is that nobody else feels the need to point it out so regularly. I’m ok with the fact that OU is really bad at football, and that where I’m at now has awful claws on their pants, but geez, the Buckeyes get enough love in the state of Ohio without needing the “The.”

[quote comment=”303977″][quote comment=”303958″][quote comment=”303951″][quote comment=”303920″][quote comment=”303916″]Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.[/quote]
That need to “rip on Ohio State” couldn’t possibly stem from the fact that NFL players feel the need to shout “THE!… Ohio State University” during TV introductions, could it?[/quote]They are officially “The Ohio State University.”[/quote]

The full name of Va Tech is Virginia Polytechnic and State University, but I din’t hear any of their NFL players saying that. Personally I plame the University itself, they’re the one that said “We want to be called The Ohio State University” a few years ago.[/quote]

Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University and people call it VPI all the time.[/quote]

But I don’t hear NFL players from there saying “Ruff Ruffman, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University” when they announce themselves. It’s always Virginia Tech. The same goes for the Georgia Institute of Technology.

[quote comment=”303970″][quote comment=”303957″]as a michigan fan, i’ve now had about a month to look at michigan’s adidas bball unis. yesterday was the first look at the maize unis, normally worn for big games. is it me, or do michigan’s unis look almost retro, or high school-ish. i know they are plain, and i love them that way. but i just can’t put my finger on it. something about them just doesn’t seem right…

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theyre impossibly boring?[/quote]

I like the uni. There is no reason to add anything more to it: keep it simple. The only thing that I noticed was that it looked much brighter. Maybe it was just my TV, but it seemed like the Nike maize was not as neon-colored. The football pants seemed to be similarly brighter. I remember that one of the issues during the adidas transition finding the right maize color was a little bit of a problem. I actually like it better in the brighter color.

As for Army-Navy, I was not a big fan of the camo on first glance, but I’m starting to like them more the more I see them with today’s post. I really liked the matte finish on the helmet, but overall the uniform wasn’t bright enough. I feel like there should have been a little more white. An outline on the camo numbers, maybe?

Navy was good, but I could have done without the yoke. With the patches and everything, it just confused things, and was unnecessary. The blood stripe was nice, but I couldn’t see it on TV.

Overall, a pretty good matchup, and better than I expected. Army’s were a little bit jarring, but good nonetheless, and Navy’s were not too unusual to be bad.

[quote comment=”303981″]anyone know the deal with lapel pin the commentators on fox are wearing?[/quote]

It’s for some charity.

This question’s definitely the new “What’s the green dot?”

Navy pants are patterned after the Evening Dress uniform pants. Note the pants in the center and far right.
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my take on the army-navy uniforms. i liked the camo for army, just not the slogans everywhere. navy’s pants looked good, but there was just too much going on up top.

quick note, and not sure if very many of you care, it seems that UNC is wearing mismatched kits during the Women’s Cup final (national title game). sorry, no pics

[quote comment=”303976″]Not to wade too deeply into the tOSU debate, but the argument about “it’s in the official name” has never carried too much water with me. If you look, it’s in a *lot* of college names. I believe it’s “The Pennsylvania State University,” and I know that my dear, dear alma mater is “The Ohio University.”
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Yep, they pretty much all have “The” at the beginning

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About the TOSU thing. I went on a tour of the university when I was looking at different schools and they said that the “The” was added in about the 1870s, and became more emphasized later on when there was a clash with Ohio University. This is what is was over (from the Milwaukee Journal):

It seems that in 1993, Ohio University crept to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and registered the name “Ohio.” That gave Ohio University the exclusive right to use the name commercially in connection with sporting and entertainment events and on licensed merchandise. “We want to be known as Ohio, and we don’t want anyone else to be known as Ohio,” John Burns, director of legal affairs for Ohio University.

After this, the “The” was emphasized even more to kind of one-up Ohio U. They also made it very clear that it was either Ohio State or The Ohio State University and it’s NEVER The Ohio State

Kentucky is wearing black jerseys with “Keightley” on the backs of all of the uni’s as their final honor to Bill Keightley.

[quote comment=”303937″][quote comment=”303936″][quote comment=”303920″][quote comment=”303916″]Sorry that this isn’t so much uni related but I hate it when people feel like they have to rip on Ohio State by putting things the “TOSU” to represent them. Get over the fact that they likely have a better program than the one year cheer for.[/quote]
That need to “rip on Ohio State” couldn’t possibly stem from the fact that NFL players feel the need to shout “THE!… Ohio State University” during TV introductions, could it?[/quote]

…ditto that. I don’t understand it, nor do I (or anyone from area outside 4-letter states with 3 vowels) think that it’s clever. It’s not as if there’s much confusion as to which state university in Ohio they’re referring to. It’s the galdarn flagship campus. We’re not dumb. We know this. Get down from your horse tOSU fans and please quit making the BigTen look bad by getting blown out in more national games.

Kudos, however, to tOSU for the sparkly helmets and Buckeyes (awesome), beautiful football unis and an amazing stadium.[/quote]

The College of New Jersey is like that, too. They even make the acronym “TCNJ” (selectively adding the “The” article but leaving out the “of”). Whenever my friends talk about going there I always say “How are things at THE CNJ?” to mock its emphasis.[/quote]

If your truly wish to twit your friends about their institution, try calling it by its original name, Trenton State College. The latter is world’s away from The College of New Jersey. :)

Denver is in orange.

T.O. is wearing a visor today. Has he worn one before?

Helmet Decal Problems with Vonta Leach in the final drive of the Packers Texans game.

Denver deserves to lose wearing those uni’s. Just wear the throwback if you really feel the need to wear orange jerseys.

The Army matte finish on the helmets really gave them a good almost cloth-like feel. But Nike overall tried to do too much. The Navy uni was plain bad, but the Army just needed to have the slogans removed. The unit patches are a sound idea, make them smaller, and then redo the Army typeface that is on the front.

Back to orange uni’s, Mix them with the KC home jerseys and you’re a neon yellow away from a blacklight party. It hurts the eyes, they could at least wear them against the Raiders.

[quote comment=”304001″]Helmet Decal Problems with Vonta Leach in the final drive of the Packers Texans game.

Denver deserves to lose wearing those uni’s. Just wear the throwback if you really feel the need to wear orange jerseys.

The Army matte finish on the helmets really gave them a good almost cloth-like feel. But Nike overall tried to do too much. The Navy uni was plain bad, but the Army just needed to have the slogans removed. The unit patches are a sound idea, make them smaller, and then redo the Army typeface that is on the front.

Back to orange uni’s, Mix them with the KC home jerseys and you’re a neon yellow away from a blacklight party. It hurts the eyes, they could at least wear them against the Raiders.[/quote]

Max, the only issue I have with what you said is reducing the sizes of the unit patches. As an Army Veteran, Those patches are the exact patches that are worn on the uniform. With the standard black/gold uni they are the patches that go on the Class A uniform(Colors). With the ACU camo pattern used for the 2008 game I would have like for them to use the ACU subdued unit patches. It makes more sense to me as you wouldn’t see a Colored patch on camo. But for TV it pops better with the color.

Oklahoma probably had fewer uniform violations last night than most NFL teams on a regular basis. Almost all had red leggings with white at the bottom. Looked really good. TO post # 35: Great Night Shift quote. A very quotable movie that you don’t hear much about.

[quote comment=”304006″][quote comment=”304004″]File the whole Nike Army-Navy effort under “trying too hard”.

Yeah, I know there is loads of symbolism in both schools and the services they represent.

But look at their dress uniforms: simple, elegant, classic. These football uni’s are none of that. Camo is needed in battle, it’s not needed here. Now they both look like euro-league teams: way too much business going on the jerseys, they’ve mucked up a classic helmet, slapping slogans on jerseys and pants … it all adds up to a giant clusterfork. It’s a mess. Uniforms are meant to be uniform still, right?

I hope they both ditch these duds. Soon.[/quote]

Interesting way to look at it, Pete. One team played football wearing evening dress pants and the other played in camo. Based on the longstanding military provisos regarding being attired properly based on occasion, duty assignment, time of day and climate, you could say both teams were out of uniform.[/quote]

How would Army have been out of uniform again?
I understand the comparison to the Marine dress pant. The Army ACU is a duty uniform. I consider the Army Navy game as a Training Exercise. ACU would be worn During a Training Exercise.

Get your 2008 AFC South Division Champions shirt here:

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Hat:
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I kind of like the retro “reebok” word mark on the merchandise.

[quote comment=”303999″]T.O. is wearing a visor today. Has he worn one before?[/quote]
started wearing one against washington

[quote comment=”303990″]About the TOSU thing. I went on a tour of the university when I was looking at different schools and they said that the “The” was added in about the 1870s, and became more emphasized later on when there was a clash with Ohio University. This is what is was over (from the Milwaukee Journal):

It seems that in 1993, Ohio University crept to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and registered the name “Ohio.” That gave Ohio University the exclusive right to use the name commercially in connection with sporting and entertainment events and on licensed merchandise. “We want to be known as Ohio, and we don’t want anyone else to be known as Ohio,” John Burns, director of legal affairs for Ohio University.

After this, the “The” was emphasized even more to kind of one-up Ohio U. They also made it very clear that it was either Ohio State or The Ohio State University and it’s NEVER The Ohio State[/quote]

Interesting. So it’s been a bit of back and forth between the schools. I find it especially interesting that the flagship university would engage with such a game of oneupmanship given the huge disparity in size and athletic exposure of the institutions.

On other topics, does anyone have ideas for decorating homes in uni-related fasion for the holidays? I’m trying to come up with something that’s slightly less tacky than a giant Vikings logo in my yard.
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[quote comment=”304012″][quote comment=”304008″][quote comment=”304007″]
How would Army have been out of uniform again?
I understand the comparison to the Marine dress pant. The Army ACU is a duty uniform. I consider the Army Navy game as a Training Exercise. ACU would be worn During a Training Exercise.[/quote]

At the risk of sounding like an ignorant civilian, couldn’t the game also be considered a special event of the kind that would require the colors, hence making the Navy pants appropriate?[/quote]
I suppose. That could be the case, For those in attendance. The players however not so much. On the 2 occasions I attended an ‘after six’ event the only reason I was sweating was from being a bit parinoid of doing something stupid in from of my superiors.[/quote]

Well, the players were performing in front of their ultimate superior, the Commander in Chief, and I’d be really worried that I’d do something stupid, like fumble in front of POTUS.

I’d also like to take this moment to thank everyone who puts their life on the line so we can sit here and debate this kind of thing.

I guess its official that Georgia Tech will play LSU in the Chick Fil-A Bowl. Since these teams both wear white jerseys primarily, does anyone know who might be wearing their color jersey for this game? Georgia Tech never wore their gold jerseys this season. Did LSU ever wear their purple jerseys in 2008?

[quote comment=”304014″]pics of kentucky in the black unis to honor keightley today…

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… i havent found a pic of “keightley” on the back of all of the unis.[/quote]

those look great. i especially like how it makes the checkerboard at the waist pop out.

[quote comment=”304019″][quote comment=”304014″]pics of kentucky in the black unis to honor keightley today…

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… i havent found a pic of “keightley” on the back of all of the unis.[/quote]

those look great. i especially like how it makes the checkerboard at the waist pop out.[/quote]
Not to be the devil’s advocate, but wouldn’t liking the memorial jerseys be giving a thumbs up to non-school color colored jerseys? (And maybe an Upshaw-esque over-memorial? Black band, black K, empty seat…black sets now?)
I guess I’ll bash the Kentucky black jerseys when they have players’ real NOB.

[quote comment=”304022″]supposedly, the black jerseys were for today and today only.[/quote]

let us hope so

BFBS (or even if there’s a ‘memorial’ cause) just is no good…a one-shot deal i can live with

[quote comment=”304024″]Watching the BCS show on Fox. Any one know what the lapel pins the guys are wearing? Rose,Pitts,Switzer and Johnson are all wearing it on the left lapel. It is not the same pin as the NFL broadcast which is for the childrens health fund.[/quote]

It kind of looks like a snake on the move. My google skills are failing me.

My point on the whole Army and Navy unis is this: Nike f*cked it up.

They just can’t leave well enough alone. I suppose it just kills them that they got the Penn State deal and they can’t cram panels, fades, horizontal and diagonal strips, tassels, unitards, gold-lame loin-cloths and every imaginable “innovation” on the uniform.

Really, if Nike knew how to produce such “design innovations” that “optimize performance” then how did they get so out-foxed by Speedo, a brand with a fraction of the R&D budget of them?

Do us all a favor Nike, get your paws off the classics and work on indoor football unis only.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Boise State got fucked.

Even though they’re higher in the standings than Ohio State and beat better teams.

Ahh, conference bias… where would we be without it?

didnt read through all the posts, but ravens in black jerseys and white pants

[quote comment=”304032″][quote comment=”304029″]AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Boise State got fucked.

Even though they’re higher in the standings than Ohio State and beat better teams.

Ahh, conference bias… where would we be without it?[/quote]

Boise St. needs to either ditch the WAC and move to MWC. The MWC might have the clout to get themselves included in the BCS or force a change in the system.[/quote]

That’s a novel idea.

[quote comment=”303979″]how BOUT them giants![/quote]

I blame you for that loss.
I thought every Giants fan knew to never EVER brag about them until the game was over. Need we talk about the fumble again?

i did the best i could with a screen shot of the ravens in black tops white pants

Le’Ron McClain of the Ravens just had the beak knocked off of his helmet decal.

[quote comment=”304039″]Le’Ron McClain of the Ravens just had the beak knocked off of his helmet decal.[/quote]

I guess I owe you a coke.

[quote comment=”303980″][quote comment=”303970″][quote comment=”303957″]as a michigan fan, i’ve now had about a month to look at michigan’s adidas bball unis. yesterday was the first look at the maize unis, normally worn for big games. is it me, or do michigan’s unis look almost retro, or high school-ish. i know they are plain, and i love them that way. but i just can’t put my finger on it. something about them just doesn’t seem right…

link

theyre impossibly boring?[/quote]

I like the uni. There is no reason to add anything more to it: keep it simple. The only thing that I noticed was that it looked much brighter. Maybe it was just my TV, but it seemed like the Nike maize was not as neon-colored. The football pants seemed to be similarly brighter. I remember that one of the issues during the adidas transition finding the right maize color was a little bit of a problem. I actually like it better in the brighter color.[/quote]

It’s that the neck and arm holes are so big. The recent Nike trend, even for non-System of Dress teams, has been more form-fitting shirts with baggy shorts. Say what you will about Nike, but we look a little sloppier this year.

Sorry I don’t have a screen grab, but Oregon is making another one of their fashion statements as they play the purple-clad jayhawks of Kansas State. It’s as if Oregon is trying to keep its identity a secret or is so arrogant that it believes a large “O” on their shorts is enough to identify them. On closer inspection, I also noticed a miniscule “Oregon” printed across the shoulder stripe. I appreciate a minimalistic approach as much as the next person, but I still don’t get why the NOB looks like it was written in invisible ink.

[quote comment=”304045″]Sorry I don’t have a screen grab, but Oregon is making another one of their fashion statements as they play the purple-clad jayhawks of Kansas State. It’s as if Oregon is trying to keep its identity a secret or is so arrogant that it believes a large “O” on their shorts is enough to identify them. On closer inspection, I also noticed a miniscule “Oregon” printed across the shoulder stripe. I appreciate a minimalistic approach as much as the next person, but I still don’t get why the NOB looks like it was written in invisible ink.[/quote]

I really don’t care much about K-State, and I hate KU even more, but I do feel obligated to point out that KU is the Jayhawks in blue, K-State the Wildcats in purple.

[quote comment=”304045″]Sorry I don’t have a screen grab, but Oregon is making another one of their fashion statements as they play the purple-clad jayhawks of Kansas State. It’s as if Oregon is trying to keep its identity a secret or is so arrogant that it believes a large “O” on their shorts is enough to identify them. On closer inspection, I also noticed a miniscule “Oregon” printed across the shoulder stripe. I appreciate a minimalistic approach as much as the next person, but I still don’t get why the NOB looks like it was written in invisible ink.[/quote]

At least the Ducks still play in one of the coolest college basketball arenas.

As the dad of a West Point cadet, I couldn’t be more pleased with the uniforms. West Point is about DUTY HONOR COUNTRY. These young men are selfless and have their priorities clearly in focus. Having the WP slogan on their unis instead of their names is most appropriate. Defending freedom around the world is what they are all about. Football is secondary. Also, BOOTS ON THE GROUND clearly differentiates Army and their graduates from the other academies. Go Army. We’re proud of you boys.

I just don’t like NIKE’s moniker of The Enforcer. Too marketing-influenced. More accurately, they should be called The Liberators or The Patriots.

PS — Army has worn unit patches for years. This isn’t a new NIKE thing.

BTW — Ricko doesn’t get it. Give it up, boy. You’re trying too hard.

[quote comment=”304052″][quote comment=”304050″]
Last night I was watching College Gameday Final with Davis, Holtz, and May.[/quote]
WHAT? You weren’t watching the “pop-up video” versions of HSM & HSM2 last night on Disney?[/quote]

what were you watching last night ;)?

[quote comment=”304050″]
According to my research, and my phone call a while back with the VaTech E.M., they have only had one in their existance and it was a prototype.

I know, I know it was just an ornamental helmet, but it struck me as wierd.
[/quote]

Schutt supplies all the helmets for the Helmet Stickers segment, no matter what each school uses.

[quote comment=”304053″][quote comment=”304052″][quote comment=”304050″]
Last night I was watching College Gameday Final with Davis, Holtz, and May.[/quote]
WHAT? You weren’t watching the “pop-up video” versions of HSM & HSM2 last night on Disney?[/quote]

what were you watching last night ;)?[/quote]

I guess that was his birthday present!

I’m DVR’ing the game, the live shot was very different than what the replays NBC showed, no? Could the crack shot interfere with the right call??

[quote comment=”304051″]As the dad of a West Point cadet, I couldn’t be more pleased with the uniforms. West Point is about DUTY HONOR COUNTRY. These young men are selfless and have their priorities clearly in focus. Having the WP slogan on their unis instead of their names is most appropriate. Defending freedom around the world is what they are all about. Football is secondary. Also, BOOTS ON THE GROUND clearly differentiates Army and their graduates from the other academies. Go Army. We’re proud of you boys.

I just don’t like NIKE’s moniker of The Enforcer. Too marketing-influenced. More accurately, they should be called The Liberators or The Patriots.

PS — Army has worn unit patches for years. This isn’t a new NIKE thing.

BTW — Ricko doesn’t get it. Give it up, boy. You’re trying too hard.[/quote]

Doesn’t get what, that I think Saturday’s uniforms were gimmicky and kitchy and beneath what I belive the academies should stand for? Yeah, that’s my opinion. The teams may not be the college powerhouses they were when I was a kid (Davis, Blanchard, Dawkins, Carpenter era), but I personally would like to see them more pay more respect to tradition and not fall in line with some of the current football uniform nonsense, that’s all. A certain amount of dignity comes with the Academies. They aren’t about changing for the hell of it. I think they should remember that.

And I served in the Army, so I’m not standing on the outside looking in.

(I don’t like that they devalued the black beret, either. But, again, that’s my opinion.)

—Ricko

[quote comment=”304062″][quote comment=”304044″][quote comment=”304032″][quote comment=”304029″]AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Boise State got fucked.

Even though they’re higher in the standings than Ohio State and beat better teams.

Ahh, conference bias… where would we be without it?[/quote]

Boise St. needs to either ditch the WAC and move to MWC. The MWC might have the clout to get themselves included in the BCS or force a change in the system.[/quote]

The MWC is already a part of the BCS, as is the WAC and every other FBS conference. Boise St going to the MWC would give that conference 3 very powerful teams (Utah, BYU, BSU) who will beat up on each other every year. All that does is make the job easier for the BCS, because they only have to worry about one of those 3 being eligible instead of 2.[/quote]

Texas Christian might have something to say about your assumed triumvirate.

In any case, there have been rumors off and on about the MWC inviting Boise on board – I’m all for it, as the conference needs to make its mark somehow in football and basketball.[/quote]

I’d say the MWC has already made their mark, with Utah’s BCS success and the strength of the conference as a whole in basketball.

[quote comment=”304029″]AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Boise State got fucked.

Even though they’re higher in the standings than Ohio State and beat better teams.

Ahh, conference bias… where would we be without it?[/quote]

I think the only people that didn’t see this coming were delusional Boise State fans.

Ohio State is the bigger name=bigger ratings=bigger $$$$

BSU never stood a chance.

[quote comment=”304061″][quote comment=”304051″]As the dad of a West Point cadet, I couldn’t be more pleased with the uniforms. West Point is about DUTY HONOR COUNTRY. These young men are selfless and have their priorities clearly in focus. Having the WP slogan on their unis instead of their names is most appropriate. Defending freedom around the world is what they are all about. Football is secondary. Also, BOOTS ON THE GROUND clearly differentiates Army and their graduates from the other academies. Go Army. We’re proud of you boys.

I just don’t like NIKE’s moniker of The Enforcer. Too marketing-influenced. More accurately, they should be called The Liberators or The Patriots.

PS — Army has worn unit patches for years. This isn’t a new NIKE thing.

BTW — Ricko doesn’t get it. Give it up, boy. You’re trying too hard.[/quote]

Doesn’t get what, that I think Saturday’s uniforms were gimmicky and kitchy and beneath what I belive the academies should stand for? Yeah, that’s my opinion. The teams may not be the college powerhouses they were when I was a kid (Davis, Blanchard, Dawkins, Carpenter era), but I personally would like to see them more pay more respect to tradition and not fall in line with some of the current football uniform nonsense, that’s all. A certain amount of dignity comes with the Academies. They aren’t about changing for the hell of it. I think they should remember that.

And I served in the Army, so I’m not standing on the outside looking in.

(I don’t like that they devalued the black beret, either. But, again, that’s my opinion.)

—Ricko[/quote]

As I’ve already said, I liked both uniforms.

However, I can see whaere Ricko is coming from.

Both academies seem above such PR type promotions.

I can’t speak for Annapolis, but I live and work 15 to 20 minutes away from the USMA and I can honestly say, it is one of the most awe-inspiring,
breathtaking, and motivating places that I have ever been.

It saddens me that I can no longer, on a whim, drive up the Palisades or 9W, pass through the Thayer gate and walk around the campus and Michie Stadium, with an INCREDIBLE view of the Hudson in the distance.

[quote comment=”304064″]so what’s everybody’s verdict on the ravens oreo uniforms?

not a fan of the black, but it matches their lids and it’s better than the purple[/quote]

I would’ve gone with white, just to force the Skins to go Ron Burgundy.

Sorry I didn’t bother to read anybody else’s comments after looking at the pics from yesterday’s Army-Navy game….but those uniforms are FREAKIN AWESOME!!

I thought both teams had such cool uniforms. Lots of character and uniqueness. I will say good job Nike.

I’m sure others will cringe once they see my comment hahahaha!

[quote comment=”304072″]Anyone with commentary about the “size of patches” or “patches were too busy” clearly haven’t earned the right to make such a comment. I have worn a unit patch on my uniform both during that game and in combat. If you think the patch is too large–go ahead…take your shot at tearing it off.[/quote]

USMADawg, Hoping you can clear something up for me that I’ve been thinking about. Of the Officers that were in my unit that were alums of USMA I never had one that played football so they were not sure. How are the Unit Patches assigned to players? Are there any Unit affilliations while at Westpoint?
What Unit Patch did you wear while at USMA, and What Units were you assigned to after Westpoint?
I was assigned to 1/3 ACR at Fort Carson from 2000-2005

[quote comment=”304072″]Anyone with commentary about the “size of patches” or “patches were too busy” clearly haven’t earned the right to make such a comment. I have worn a unit patch on my uniform both during that game and in combat. If you think the patch is too large–go ahead…take your shot at tearing it off.[/quote]

As one of the first posts of the day and one that suggested making the patches smaller I would like to respond to your post.

I have not served in the military but have the utmost respect for those that have, those that are, and those that will serve. However, my suggestion for making the patches smaller is merely a reaction to the aesthetics of the uniform. It has nothing to do with the respect (or lack thereof) I have for our soldiers.

I stand by my critique of the uniforms.

[quote comment=”304074″][quote comment=”304072″]Anyone with commentary about the “size of patches” or “patches were too busy” clearly haven’t earned the right to make such a comment. I have worn a unit patch on my uniform both during that game and in combat. If you think the patch is too large–go ahead…take your shot at tearing it off.[/quote]

LOL. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It’s free speech. You apparently defended it. If someone thinks the patches were too large or busy they certainly have a right to say so, especially here, on a blog dedicated to uniforms. And what’s with the hostility?[/quote]

I wouldn’t call it hostility, more passionate.
With the Unit Patches for Army. They should either be the actual patches or not at all. Navy on the other hand there are no tellin what that stuff is about.

[quote comment=”304069″][quote comment=”304064″]so what’s everybody’s verdict on the ravens oreo uniforms?

not a fan of the black, but it matches their lids and it’s better than the purple[/quote]

I would’ve gone with white, just to force the Skins to go Ron Burgundy.[/quote]

I don’t know if Jim Zorn really has that “no burgundy” mentality like Gibbs; when they did the Sean Taylor tribute last week, the Redskins wore burgundy at home.

I didn’t have big problems with either Uni-set.
I like Army, but I thought it was a tad busy.
Really liked Navy, especially the yolk.

[quote comment=”304061″][quote comment=”304051″]As the dad of a West Point cadet, I couldn’t be more pleased with the uniforms. West Point is about DUTY HONOR COUNTRY. These young men are selfless and have their priorities clearly in focus. Having the WP slogan on their unis instead of their names is most appropriate. Defending freedom around the world is what they are all about. Football is secondary. Also, BOOTS ON THE GROUND clearly differentiates Army and their graduates from the other academies. Go Army. We’re proud of you boys.

I just don’t like NIKE’s moniker of The Enforcer. Too marketing-influenced. More accurately, they should be called The Liberators or The Patriots.

PS — Army has worn unit patches for years. This isn’t a new NIKE thing.

BTW — Ricko doesn’t get it. Give it up, boy. You’re trying too hard.[/quote]

Doesn’t get what, that I think Saturday’s uniforms were gimmicky and kitchy and beneath what I belive the academies should stand for? Yeah, that’s my opinion. The teams may not be the college powerhouses they were when I was a kid (Davis, Blanchard, Dawkins, Carpenter era), but I personally would like to see them more pay more respect to tradition and not fall in line with some of the current football uniform nonsense, that’s all. A certain amount of dignity comes with the Academies. They aren’t about changing for the hell of it. I think they should remember that.

And I served in the Army, so I’m not standing on the outside looking in.

(I don’t like that they devalued the black beret, either. But, again, that’s my opinion.)

—Ricko[/quote]

Not to worry, Rick. When I hear “you don’t get it” I know I’m probably flying right.

[quote comment=”304082″][quote comment=”304066″]On the subject of purple, I must admit the Ravens’ black jerseys with purple trim are kinda neat. I know the concept of the black alternate has been overused, but this time it’s really an improvement.[/quote]

Black should be the primary color[/quote]

So that’s how it works? Wow, the NFL has a lot of work to do.

i would just like to say enough with all this nike bashing. I think nike deserves alot of credit for making sports interesting for uniform enthusiasts like ourselves. Because every year your going to see something new and innovative from them in football basketball or whatever. Like it or not it’s something to talk about and get people like myself excited to see something new. I’ll admit it is hit or miss and this weekends Army Navy game is a perfect example of that (Navy-hit, Army-miss) but its fun. And the army,navy unis arent permanent they’re just one time things, which may be alternates down the line at most. Which brings up another thing you have to give them credit for is Nike respects tradition. Yes, they screw with Oregons uniforms but they aren’t a college football team with great herritage. And honestly I am 100 percent more interseted in Oregon every week because I dont know which helmet they will be wearing with which jersey or which jersey theyll be wearing with which pants and so on. If they didn’t have crazy uniforms I honestly would have no interest in them at all. You will never see Ohio State, Oklahome, Penn State, or any team with great tradition (especially uniform tradition) come out with ridiculous uniforms. They know who they can screw around with and who they cant, and who can really blame nike for trying to breathe life into teams who have little to no tradition?

i loved the new unis that navy and army sported, wish we could see them more often

They know who they can screw around with and who they cant, and who can really blame nike for trying to breathe life into teams who have little to no tradition?

Only a fool would say that Army and Navy have “little to no [football] tradition.”

Only a fool would say that Army and Navy have “little to no [football] tradition.”

I noted that the the Army, Navy uniforms were most likely temporary or alternates… no more than lets say the Celtics wearing those gross Green/black road alternates. I know that they have great tradition… if they are permanent I withdraw everything I said.

Three words about Army’s uniform: BEST. UNIFORM. EVER. As a 3rd generation sailor and having served proudly in the Navy for 8 years, I’ve been watching this game since I was in diapers. Navy’s uniform looked better than it ever has, but the Army blew away any uniform I’ve ever seen. No team will ever top that Army uniform!! The camo pants, camo helmet, and SOB (slogan on back) put to shame every jersey that’s ever been worn on a gridiron, diamond, rink, or court. Period.

Overall, I like the two attempts. Both were overdone in places but they can be scaled back.

From my wish list:

Army’s players display off-field achievements as merit stickers on their helmets. Ranger tabs, jump wings, etc.

Navy matching their number font to those you see on actual ships, white with black shading.

[quote comment=”304112″]As usual I will stand up for Nike and say that I think they did a great job on the jerseys. In particular I thought that the Army uni’s were awesome. The camo pants and numerals – very nice touch. I would love to get my hands on an authentic to see the quality of the materials.[/quote]

You can buy game worn helmets on the USMA’s offical sports site. They’re a little on the pricey side, but I for one am hoping to get one for Christmas.
link

As far as for the jerseys, the best I could find is here: link
Unfortunately, it’s only a replica, but what are you going to do?

The West Point uniforms were terrible. I have friends who both played for and/or went to USMA and they were frankly embarrassed by the ACU patterned uniforms. Moreoever, word is that the players only found out about the “uniform change” hours before the game. Imagine having to play in the biggest game of the season not only as huge underdogs that have lost a record number of games in a row to their arch rivals and have to overcome the thought of future ridicule of the uniforms that they are about to wear by friends, alumni, and service members alike.

The Navy uniforms were bad but not as over the top and rediculous. I thought the pant design was subtle enough to remain somewhat classic but the shoulder boards and double logos on the jersey were too much.

Nike is single handedly killing tradition and it must be stopped.