For Whom The Bell Tolls

Army-Navy jerseys are on armygearonline.com and navygear.com, respectively

I thought this post was going to be about link and his link.

Color vs. color done well is a good thing. I think today’s game is an example of that. I would not, however, like to see something like Miami or Florida in orange jerseys vs. Florida State in garnet.

Also, with the advent of HDTV, you’d think that the networks would encourage this sort of thing. Kinda like what happened with the original Star Trek series. As I understand it, NBC wanted the shows it broadcast in color to be as colorful as possible, so that’s why they had the link.
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Phil: thanks for the shoutout (if I may use the parlance of the whippersnappers). Looks like I’ll be using my new snowblower for the first time today. That’s not exactly the birthday blowing I was looking forward to.

[quote comment=”303750″]Not a fan of color vs. color. One team should always be in white, yellow or gold.[/quote]

I’m alright with color/color with the obvious exception being to teams having same color issues. NCSU vs Nebraska, somebody has to wear white. Orange/Red and Yellow/Orange are probably not a good idea.

[quote comment=”303752″]see how futbol does it. Each team has a home and an away jersey. The away jersey is not necessarily white. some teams even have a third jersey[/quote]

And then there’s the oddballs like link who choose white as their home colors.

(pictured: Jose Guti, who I’m pretty sure we’ve noted on here before for having rather strange link)

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Phil: thanks for the shoutout (if I may use the parlance of the whippersnappers). Looks like I’ll be using my new snowblower for the first time today. That’s not exactly the birthday blowing I was looking forward to.[/quote]

happy b-day, jth… mine is tomorrow:) we december birthdays often get the short end of the stick when it comes to presents—“here, this is for your birthday AND for christmas!” gee, thanks, mr. cheapskate!

Unfortunately that picture of Hoffenheim with their mascot was taken before Bayern scored a lucky goal on them in the 4th minute of stoppage time to win 2-1…sigh…

I like that Navy football jersey that Nike put together, but the Army version looks like a Raiders fashion jersey no… a knock-off Da Raiduhs fashion jersey

I don’t know if it was mentioned yesterday, but when Montreal introduced the old players Thursday they all wore CCM jerseys, not Reebok.

Also, they had a video of Roger Doucet singing both national anthems and, the video they used was the old version of the Candian anthem before they changed the words. (The English part anyway.)

I have it all on DVR and if someone teaches me how do a screen grab I can link toi the CCM and post the anthem.

Color v. color in and of itself is neither a good thing nor a bad thing. It’s all about the particular unis involved. With link it’s awesome, because both teams have great home looks. The link was meh: the colors looked good together but the double-monochrome was a bit much. And it doesn’t matter who link plays, those gold unis are just awful.

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Phil: thanks for the shoutout (if I may use the parlance of the whippersnappers). Looks like I’ll be using my new snowblower for the first time today. That’s not exactly the birthday blowing I was looking forward to.[/quote]

happy b-day, jth… mine is tomorrow:) we december birthdays often get the short end of the stick when it comes to presents—“here, this is for your birthday AND for christmas!” gee, thanks, mr. cheapskate![/quote]
I’m feeling you pain, buddy. In my family, this isn’t the Holiday Season, it’s Birthday Season. We have nine birthdays between 12/2 and 1/28, including me, my wife, my daughter and daughter-to-be (due on or before 1/9), brother, sister-in-law, dad, mom and stepmom (both on Christmas Eve!). The one bright side is that the usually-awful combined gift can occasionally result in a greater than the sum of its parts mega-gift (as in: “Normally I’d get you a sweater for X-mas and a DVD for your birthday, but since I can combine the money for those gifts to buy one big thing, here’s your new X-Box.”).

link. Army’s are fugly.

[quote comment=”303769″][quote comment=”303761″]I like that Navy football jersey that Nike put together, but the Army version looks like a Raiders fashion jersey no… a knock-off Da Raiduhs fashion jersey[/quote]

according to an email i got from navygear.com (i dont know why i get emails from them but i do) nike did not design todays jerseys, both navy and army did. so blame army if you dont like it.[/quote]
I like the fact that now Army and Navy won’t look like each other and/or Notre Dame in Nike, but I’m not sure I like how they look.

I’m watching Army-Navy.

GOUGE MY EYES OUT!

Army has SMOB(School Motto On Back).

you gotta give army credit..they went all out
camo pants, jersey numbers, and helmet
I think they look pretty good
as for the new nike template that navy has..I really like that template

not uni related, but they just mentioned that white is an english major. doesn’t that sound like an unusual skill for a military man? i guess someone’s got to fill out the papaerwork

I noticed in the pregame that the USMA band is wearing their camo pants with their black tops. Also, all of the cadets have camo hats on.

[quote comment=”303781″]Those white Navy jerseys aren’t legal per NCAA with the blue shoulders…

—A white jersey is one with only contrasting playing numbers, player’s name, school name, NCAA Football logo, school insignia,conference insignia, mascot insignia, game insignia, memorial insignia or the American flag attached. An insignia must not exceed 16 square inches in area (i.e., rectangle, square, parallelogram), including any additional material (e.g., patch). Stripes may be placed on the sleeves. A border not more than 1 inch wide around the collar and cuffs is permissible, as is a maximum 4-inch stripe along the side seam (insert from the underarm to pants top).—-

Oh and those Army unis are crap.[/quote]

In that case the Oregon diamondplating is illegal as well when worn with the road whites, as are the Oregon State “Sports Bra” jerseys.

[quote comment=”303781″]Those white Navy jerseys aren’t legal per NCAA with the blue shoulders…

—A white jersey is one with only contrasting playing numbers, player’s name, school name, NCAA Football logo, school insignia,conference insignia, mascot insignia, game insignia, memorial insignia or the American flag attached. An insignia must not exceed 16 square inches in area (i.e., rectangle, square, parallelogram), including any additional material (e.g., patch). Stripes may be placed on the sleeves. A border not more than 1 inch wide around the collar and cuffs is permissible, as is a maximum 4-inch stripe along the side seam (insert from the underarm to pants top).—-
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Yeah, they had to give up a timeout to wear them, its been in the news all week.

i think navy looks great, love the blood stripe

as for army, love the helmet and jersey. i think the pants should be black with a broad camo stripe down the side. i think the pants take it too far and are distracting.

is it me or does the helmt camo not match the jersey and pants camo

[quote comment=”303783″]re: Army-Navy…

Those Army “outfits” are really kind of the last straw for me. Someone needs to remind Nike (and others) that they are designing football uniforms, not football costumes.

Were I in the military and watching—especially deployed in a combat area—I might be a little pissed.
a) They AREN’T in combat, period. It’s a frickin’ football game.
b) I’d wanna see something that looked like home, not like the people sitting around me.

I swear, if it were 30 or 40 years ago, people would be wondering if the Nike design team was all girls.

—Ricko[/quote]

Ricko, it’s been stated earlier that the academies designed the unis, so you can’t blame Nike for this one.

[quote comment=”303786″]i think navy looks great, love the blood stripe

as for army, love the helmet and jersey. i think the pants should be black with a broad camo stripe down the side. i think the pants take it too far and are distracting.

is it me or does the helmt camo not match the jersey and pants camo[/quote]

It could just be the difference in materials, because it’s all supposed to be the high tech “digital camo” that the Army uses on their fatigues.

[quote comment=”303788″][quote comment=”303783″]re: Army-Navy…

Those Army “outfits” are really kind of the last straw for me. Someone needs to remind Nike (and others) that they are designing football uniforms, not football costumes.

Were I in the military and watching—especially deployed in a combat area—I might be a little pissed.
a) They AREN’T in combat, period. It’s a frickin’ football game.
b) I’d wanna see something that looked like home, not like the people sitting around me.

I swear, if it were 30 or 40 years ago, people would be wondering if the Nike design team was all girls.

—Ricko[/quote]

Ricko, it’s been stated earlier that the academies designed the unis, so you can’t blame Nike for this one.[/quote]

Yeah, but they and a couple other major suppliers started all this nonsense.

If you think Nike had no input, you’re seriously dreaming. You know the acadamies had to have asked, at least for production purposes, “What CAN we do?” And Nike probably was giddy to supply ideas.

And it still looks like the Home Ec class designed those costumes…maybe for the high school musical.

I really don’t mind the special uniforms for this game. Navy, IMO, looks very classy. Army is slowly growing on me as this game continues.

[quote comment=”303792″][quote comment=”303788″][quote comment=”303783″]re: Army-Navy…

Those Army “outfits” are really kind of the last straw for me. Someone needs to remind Nike (and others) that they are designing football uniforms, not football costumes.

Were I in the military and watching—especially deployed in a combat area—I might be a little pissed.
a) They AREN’T in combat, period. It’s a frickin’ football game.
b) I’d wanna see something that looked like home, not like the people sitting around me.

I swear, if it were 30 or 40 years ago, people would be wondering if the Nike design team was all girls.

—Ricko[/quote]

Ricko, it’s been stated earlier that the academies designed the unis, so you can’t blame Nike for this one.[/quote]

Yeah, but they and a couple other major suppliers started all this nonsense.

If you think Nike had no input, you’re seriously dreaming. You know the acadamies had to have asked, at least for production purposes, “What CAN we do?” And Nike probably was giddy to supply ideas.

And it still looks like the Home Ec class designed those costumes…maybe for the high school musical.[/quote]

Call me naive, but I seriously believe that the service academies are the one case where the tail does not wag the dog, at least uni wise. Nike’s not just dealing with a university, they’re dealing with the Department of Defense.

If Navy lost the blue-and-gold shoulder boards, that uni would look perfectly acceptable to me, especially if they paired the navy pants with the navy helmet that they wore for a couple of Army-Navy games in the 1990s (I think, I can’t remember a specific year).

As for the Army unis, umm…their pants remind me of Zubaz. I think that’s all that needs to be said. :)

How did they get the camo on Army’s headgear? Is it a sticker or painted on? It’s really hard to tell without still shots but it looks to me like the camo isn’t uniform across helmets.

[quote comment=”303797″][quote comment=”303795″]Interesting question for we uni-geeks to ponder.

Is a “uniform” a) only what a team is wearing today, or b) what it wears all (or most) of the time?

I’m not being pissy. It really is a point to ponder.

Cuz of answer is “b,” then Oregon doesn’t have a uniform…just a set of outfits.

Don’t know. Thoughts, anyone?[/quote]

The basic definition of uniform is many wearing the same thing. By that definition, Oregon has many uniforms.[/quote]

So if someone says, “Tell me what Oregon’s football uniforms look like” we gonna need to ask them to have a seat while we look for a whiteboard and some yellow, green and black markers.

LOL. I’m not disagreeing. Honest, I’m not. Just marveling at how the definition is changing.

It really looks as though Army is wearing some hybrid form of aluminum foil & duct tape pants. Just watch out for chafing!

As i think I mentioned in the comments earlier in the week, ESPN radio’s Dave Dameshek has been campaigning for a couples for the red vs blue in the USC/UCLA game. I know he had both coaches on his show last year promoting the idea.

[quote comment=”303807″]I agree with the statement that if there was a team to wear camo. that it should only be Army. The Navy uni is OK. I personally don’t like all the shoulder business.

And if the statement is said from the Army players or coaches saying, “We are wearing camo. ’cause we are in a battle,” I will throw the shenanigans flag, ’cause you are not in battle. You are playing a football game. But again, the camo. works for Army and that is all.[/quote]

I don’t think any of the players would make that statement, because they know that the real battles begin the moment they get their assignments from the Pentagon.

[quote comment=”303809″][quote comment=”303805″]Virginia Tech is sporting throwback jerseys and pants with the current helmet… and a huge-a$$ ACC Championship patch.[/quote]
Why aren’t there any fans in the stands in tampa?[/quote]

Because neither FSU nor Miami are playing, so no one in Florida cares.

Cool that Navy decided on NNOB.

Also like that Army’s helmets are matte finish, makes them look more “authentic.”

1) I heard Army was wearing camo and I expected the absolute worst. While I wouldn’t want Army to wear those jerseys forever, I don’t think they’re as bad as I feared.

2) Navy’s jerseys, however, ARE worse than I feared, and I hope they never wear these WalMart knockoff jerseys ever again.

I hope Army goes back to Black and Gold of course, but the camo isn’t as bad as I feared. Maybe do the numbers in solid white. Or use a darker camo.

I may be the only one, but I love the Army uniforms (and no I am not in any way associated with Army or any of the armed forces). I am rarely find myself defending Nike’s uniform design, but in this case I think they hit a homerun. It would be a little much if they were used as the uniforms for every game, but I think that they are great for the Army/Navy game.

I do find myself asking how they get the camo on the helmets. There is no way that they are painted and a decal sticker would not be able to conform to an entire helmet.

I am guessing that thay used an Immersion foil technique. This technique is used for many products that are decorated with camo.

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Immersion foil is the process of laying a thin graphic foil atop a fluid bath. The product to be coated in soaked in the bath. The product is then drawn up through the foil. The foil will lay flat as the fluid is drawn from between the foil and product, reducing the chance of any air being caught under the foil.

Learn more here:
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I don’t know how durable the foil is and I am going to guess we will see some interesting wear and tear on those helmets by the end of the game.

As an enlisted member of the U.S. Navy, I like the changes both teams made. I don’t know the specifics behind the changes for the Navy uniform or what significance they hold on the jerseys, the pants are a Marine “shout out” and very classy in the fact that not a whole lot of people pay attention to the fact that it isn’t just Navy guys out there but Marines as well, but it looks good overall. I also like how they are wearing both services emblem, the Navy Anchor and the Marine Globe.

And I agree with the fact that the Army should be the only team allowed to wear camo, and I think it looks good. It’s not totally garish and out there like Oregon’s uniforms but very classy and well done, at least in my opinion, and I also am HD deficient so I cant see what it looks like in that form.

But overall, looks good to me.

Hooyah Navy, Anchors Aweigh!

[quote comment=”303811″]Stuck at work, any Army-Navy screen grabs?[/quote]

Here you go:

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Why is VT in their new helmets with their old-school uniforms?

Here’s link from the Army/Navy game, including Shun White’s arm tape shout out.

– jude

“I am guessing that thay used an Immersion foil technique. This technique is used for many products that are decorated with camo.”

mg12, nike could have also used a polymer/sticker wrap much like nascar uses on their cars to cut down on paint costs…

My mother has agreed to make me one of the shirts featured yesterday… of course, what do I do? I pick the most complicated one I could find… We’re going with a Bobby Hull red jersey from his days with the Black Hawks (it was spaced then)…

[quote comment=”303824″]Why is VT in their new helmets with their old-school uniforms?[/quote]
The throwback white helmets were auctioned off after the Furman game

that, and it looks pretty nice to have the maroon helmet with those jerseys…

Hi-Res of the Army unis, mistakenly posted this in the previous thread

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As far as color vs. color, I’m in favor of this happening more often. I would absolutely love to see the Barry Sanders era Lions’ Honolulu Blue vs. the Bears’ Navy Blue.

Army doesn’t look fashionable. They look honorable. These young men have earned the right to wear camo. I always think it is tacky when non-military types wear camo (Oregon, Brett Favre). However, for one game, given the heart that goes into it for both academies, I think it is absolutely great.

Hey, say what you want about the Army pics, but on the tube, they look good. They look better than the Navy ones do, which look like they work in the kitchen of a hotel. But they showed a clip of some guy in the ealry 90’s for army with the rushing record, and Boomer started in about that was old school with the huge pads and uni that wasn’t painted on. Someone else is on this now, I am sure.

well, i called the father in law, and asked the former marine for his take on this army-navy game. surprise, not, he loves the navy pantaloons. as for the camo, i wasn’t shocked that he hated the camo for the obvious this isn’t war reason, but i was surprised with the addition of “these kids have not yet seen combat, and don’t deserve to wear camo!” i have to say, an excellent point. so there is my unscientific survey of one.

Army uniforms dont look as bad as feared. The unit patches are a nice touch (but isnt there some sort of propriety issue with wearing patches of units they aren’t part of?)

But I have a major problem with the wearing of fatigues/camo in civilian settings (not on base). I know Bush the Lesser changed the longstanding rule against this but it’s still wrong.

Looks like Florida Tebow’s are going monochrome blue and Alabama is going all white.

quote comment=\”303822\”][quote comment=\”303811\”]Stuck at work, any Army-Navy screen grabs?[/quote]

Here you go:

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When I first turned the game on (it had just ended) I thought they had been playing in the mud with the way Army\’s helmets looked. But once I realized they were camo and saw the whole uniform I thought they looked great. I thought Navy looked like a poor AFL2 team though. Army may have lost the game big, but the won the uni battle big.

decided, in honour of the camo debate, to brave the chicago cold, and walk down to the corner store, and get a six pack of miller tall boys in the hunting camo can. football camo may be a no-no, but beer camo is a yes-yes. but a frosty beverage is necessary to celebrate tho colour bowl. is it to much to hope that ucla removes all the extra strokes around their gold numberals for the occasion? fingers crossed.

HOW BOUT THEM HOKIES!!!!!

Orange Bowl… again! Wohoo!

Watching the USC-UCLA game… man, color vs color looks awesome in HD… Just wish the gold pants for each team weren’t practically the same shade, makes it a lil confusing in the scrums

[quote comment=”303852″]Well, now I can say that I’ve seen a ref throw a flag for “failure to wear required equipment.” I probably won’t see that penalty for the rest of my life. That might be the highlight of this USC/UCLA game.[/quote]

If you watch next year’s USC/UCLA game you will, because Neuheisel has promised to wear the blues in the Coliseum, and Carroll is going to even things up with the timeouts again.

I’m rooting against Alabama and Oklahoma, only because if they both were to win, it would be the most boring matchup in National Championship history.

Also, as for Color v. Color, I’m all for it–the home jersey is usually one of your school’s main colors. The USC/UCLA game looks great. Florida/Alabama would look fantastic in Blue vs. Maroon (although UF should have orange pants). Granted, some won’t work (VT v. BC, for example), but the idea itself is solid.

[quote comment=”303856″]I think I’ve figured out Shun White’s shout out, via arm tape during today’s Army/Navy game (a picture of which is link in case you missed my earlier post.)

The Associated Press link Navy played today’s game without Rashawn King, their senior cornerback who wears #18. King went home after the death of his father, Drexel, this week.

Dan Gelston writes: “Drexel King had a heart attack Thursday and the Mids played with a ‘DK’ sticker on the back of their helmets.”

I missed the sticker myself. Did anyone spot it?[/quote]

They showed it on the game it was a DK inside of a crown.

Going back to yesterday’s comments about NHL 3rd jerseys. Everyone complains that the too many third jerseys are link or link. Then everyone complains that they are all black. So when someone comes out with a which is NOT black. Everyone gets upset. People love the Canadians jersey, but lets face it. It’s boring. I love it, but there’s really nothing exciting about it. So why is it not ok for a franchise that has not been around for 100 years to create a bland jersey? Whether or not it is ok, bland is definitely better than ugly. Anyone can agree on that.

[quote comment=”303783″]re: Army-Navy…

Those Army “outfits” are really kind of the last straw for me. Someone needs to remind Nike (and others) that they are designing football uniforms, not football costumes.

Were I in the military and watching—especially deployed in a combat area—I might be a little pissed.
a) They AREN’T in combat, period. It’s a frickin’ football game.
b) I’d wanna see something that looked like home, not like the people sitting around me.

I swear, if it were 30 or 40 years ago, people would be wondering if the Nike design team was all girls.

—Ricko[/quote]

You know that the standard Army uniform, even when they aren’t in combat, is now camo (and not the green suit-looking thing), right? I mean, this is what these guys wear on a day-to-day basis.

I’ll admit that it’s a bit much when the San Diego Padres put on camo tops, but shit, if anyone is allowed to wear camo, it should be an Army team.

I would like to see a rule in which a team will lose a timeout if they choose to wear monochrome colors! LOL!….. Dont mind me, I am 52 and old school. :-)

i didn’t want to say it out loud, but sean went and talked to the giant pink elephant in the locker room when he mentioned the possibility of an aesthetically unpleasing championship game. it’s okay if alabama OR oklahoma wins, but if they BOTH win, we get link or link

[quote comment=\”303843\”]Army uniforms dont look as bad as feared. The unit patches are a nice touch (but isnt there some sort of propriety issue with wearing patches of units they aren\’t part of?)

But I have a major problem with the wearing of fatigues/camo in civilian settings (not on base). I know Bush the Lesser changed the longstanding rule against this but it\’s still wrong.[/quote]

Sir, I don\’t mind you exercising your first amendment right. However get your facts straight. I enlisted in 1999 during SlickWilly\’s Administration and as far as I could tell upon leaving Fort Carson I was not required to immediately remove my BDU\’s. I went to 2 Army v. Airforce games in my BDU\’s. Granted we were still forbidden from being in civilian night clubs and bars in uniform but as far I know there was no regulation on being at a \’civilian\’ function as you said in either the old BDU or new ACU.

Former SGT. Brandon Creeger
HWB 1/3 ACR
Fort Carson, CO

The uniforms for both teams looked ok. I would understand if Navy were to keep this full time. Army needs to keep the Black and Gold.

chill stuby, i made it clear that it was one man’s opinion, and not the opinion of everybody in the military. the opinion is no more or less valid then yours, i was just throwing it out there for debate. and by no means is an opinion not shared by you automatically “ridiculous”. if you think about it, while i don’t necessarily share his opinion either, i see what he is trying to say.

[quote comment=”303870″]SEC Championship game: Florida has worn the blue pants quite a bit this year. They haven’t worn the orange pants with the blue pants in a while, but they should, seeing that they have orange helmets. Also . . . Florida’s jerseys look quite dated (they haven’t changed since Spurrier took over, an era where such things as fade haircuts and zubaz pants were popular). Of course, it’s preferable that they stay the way they are, instead of having Nike redesign them.

And what the hell is up with Archie’s suit?[/quote]

Leave well enough alone, Not Earl…

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Robert, dude, I am chill. It is a ridiculous statement in that these guys are pretty much in the Army already. And you don’t ‘earn’ camouflage by going into combat.

I guess ‘inaccurate’ would have been more accurate than ‘ridiculous’.

[quote]Sir, I don\’t mind you exercising your first amendment right. However get your facts straight. I enlisted in 1999 during SlickWilly\’s Administration and as far as I could tell upon leaving Fort Carson I was not required to immediately remove my BDU\’s. I went to 2 Army v. Airforce games in my BDU\’s. Granted we were still forbidden from being in civilian night clubs and bars in uniform but as far I know there was no regulation on being at a \’civilian\’ function as you said in either the old BDU or new ACU.

Former SGT. Brandon Creeger
HWB 1/3 ACR
Fort Carson, CO

The uniforms for both teams looked ok. I would understand if Navy were to keep this full time. Army needs to keep the Black and Gold. [/quote]

what’s the 1st Amendment have to do with this?

yeah there was and it was around for decades. im not military but ive done a lot of work over the years with DoD here in DC so i often have mtgs with military, go to the army/navy club, attend functions with military etc. maybe things were relaxed in base towns (and there were always some exceptions).

ten years ago one would never ever be allowed to wear bdu’s to meetings or interactions with civilians in public. even during the vietnam war there was a strict rule regarding the wearing of combat dress in the US. this rule was changed during the Bush administration (the argument was that the US was a combat zone in the war on terror or something like that). now you see fatigues (isntead of dress or civilian clothes) all over the metro. the UK even recently adopted the rule change.

the symbolic principle behind the rule was, since the US was not a combat zone, that only dress uniforms (or civilian clothes) should be worn in public so as not to project the image of an occupying military force.

can’t find articles on it (cause i cant figure out a good search string) but ask some old heads about it and they’ll back me up.

In addition to having the school motto on the back of the jerseys, Army had writing down the sides of their pants. One side said West Point and the other said boots on the ground (unless I can’t read that correctly?) They can be seen here:

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Monochrome, It was a lame attempted crack at your Bush the Lesser remark (just cause). That was where the 1st amendment came in. I’m not one of the old timers around here. (29) I know politicians are politicians same crap different wrapper. More to the actual uni part. I believe the switch in policy may have to do with the ever reducing role of the old doorman green suit(Class A’s). I was enlisted active duty for 6 years and I wore the Class A uniform maybe 4 or 5 times. I don’t know when it will be replaced by the dress blue(if it hasn’t already) but I believe it is due. You may see a change in D.C. but it looks much the same to me at Ft. Carson or now at home near MacDill AFB

look at the army unis without the pants and it looks good the pants are just a little excessive

The Montreal Canadiens have changed their centre ice logo. Centre Ice now adorns the All Star Game logo, rather than the 100th Anniversary Logo.

MONO, This is the problem with internet forums and chats and the like. Had we been having a conversation we most likely had been on the same page. We see the thing on two different levels. I was an enlisted man on a howitzer gun line. The highest ranking man I saw in the field or in garrison was a Major General one time. I dealt mostly with LTC and below.

[quote comment=”303886″]not the biggest gator fan, but lets celebrate the fact that we don’t have to watch a monochromatic oklahoma-alabama bcs title game.[/quote]

unless of course, mizzou sends the horns to the big dance, where, imho, texas rightfully belongs

Army’s uniforms were down right amazing. Say whatever you want but they just looked good. Everyone who watched the game with me in HD agreed, those helmets were some of the coolest things. They used GOOD camo, they didnt use too much of it, and everything just fit together.

Maybe not a weekly thing, but every year against Navy? Sign me up.

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unless of course, mizzou sends the horns to the big dance, where, imho, texas rightfully belongs[/quote]

As an Oklahoma fan, I fully agree. Some ESPN columnist (Forde, maybe?) wrote something about how only college football would disregard one team beating the other head-to-head in terms of determining who was better (or higher-ranked).

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Leave well enough alone, Not Earl…

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Dear God, I’d almost forgotten about that… or blocked it out of my memory…

ha! my first reaction to leek was “dear god!” and “i forgot about those”. i click back and you wrote it on the next line. and for your gin-use, i must concur with senator CN…leave well enough alone not earl. for the love of god, leave well enough alone.

army age gap:from what i can tell it was a mixed bag today, but i would imagine you are right, the age to hate quotient is inversely proportional. for instance, i hate, i 38.

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unless of course, mizzou sends the horns to the big dance, where, imho, texas rightfully belongs[/quote]

As an Oklahoma fan, I fully agree. Some ESPN columnist (Forde, maybe?) wrote something about how only college football would disregard one team beating the other head-to-head in terms of determining who was better (or higher-ranked).

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Also, this blowout we’ve got going on right now doesn’t make OU look that good, considering Texas already beat the mess out of Mizzou earlier this year.

[quote comment=”303764″]I don’t know if it was mentioned yesterday, but when Montreal introduced the old players Thursday they all wore CCM jerseys, not Reebok.

Also, they had a video of Roger Doucet singing both national anthems and, the video they used was the old version of the Candian anthem before they changed the words. (The English part anyway.)

I have it all on DVR and if someone teaches me how do a screen grab I can link toi the CCM and post the anthem.[/quote]

They changed the words to the national anthem? What did it use to be?

[quote comment=”303897″][quote comment=”303764″]I don’t know if it was mentioned yesterday, but when Montreal introduced the old players Thursday they all wore CCM jerseys, not Reebok.

Also, they had a video of Roger Doucet singing both national anthems and, the video they used was the old version of the Candian anthem before they changed the words. (The English part anyway.)

I have it all on DVR and if someone teaches me how do a screen grab I can link toi the CCM and post the anthem.[/quote]

They changed the words to the national anthem? What did it use to be?[/quote]
Scoop link
And on a totally unrelated topic, my roommate showed me link. Enjoy.
(Not quite uni related, but it talks about Kansas’ favorite font: Trajan.)

There is a long standing tradition with Navy-Army (I know its Army-Navy in the common vernacular, but I am a former squid) to wear one-off uniforms for this game, i.e. the Jolly Roger Helmets. I dont believe that Army should wear the camo’s when they play Toledo, Holy Cross or Vassar. However, against the supremely superior Navy teams that Army has so graciously lost to the past several years, I see no harm in it. As a matter of fact, compared to some of the Evil Empire’s other efforts, Army’s uni is downright sleek. Make no mistake, lets hope this is a one time deal – y’know, too much of a good thing

So far, the BCS is shaping up to have some very traditional looks in their games… At this point, I think only Cinci and Utah are going to be playing in ‘modern’ looks (assuming VT’s seniors choose once again to wear the throwbacks in Miami)

Florida, Alabama, USC, Texas, Penn St, possibly Ohio State (if they make it), and possibly Virginia Tech (if they choose to wear the throwbacks) all have great possibility for some good looks during the BCS.

Yep, those new ‘desiger’ uniforms are really great for recruiting the top notch players in the nation……