Well, Which Is It?

I noticed the same thing and chaulked upto me being too big of a loser for my own good but it does bother me I hate the vector.

The title of today’s post fits nicely with this beauty I found on eBay (and the same team is involved, too): link

It reminds me of the A’s/Giants caps occasionally seen here in the Bay Area, is this a regional thing or are there as many uni-idiots (uniïdiots? unidiots?) out there, too?

[quote comment=”296626″]lacking anything in the way of major sports on tv last night, the link played the lakeshow in preseason…a little discusson ensued on their uni-likenesses last evening…do they look like the knicks? old pistons (grant hill era)? something else?

it’s certainly not the worst uni ever, but there’s nothing that screams “beauty” either

such is the nba[/quote]
I saw a Wizards highlight after our discussion last night. The Thunder isn’t (aren’t) too far off from them either…

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[quote comment=”296626″]lacking anything in the way of major sports on tv last night, the link played the lakeshow in preseason…a little discusson ensued on their uni-likenesses last evening…do they look like the knicks? old pistons (grant hill era)? something else?

it’s certainly not the worst uni ever, but there’s nothing that screams “beauty” either

such is the nba[/quote]

They look like a D-League team. And was that Kevin Wills in the photo link?

I was a goalie in college, and our college was “sponsored” by Vaughn. They had a rep come in and size us, and fit us for pads. We got everything that the pro’s wore, but for about 5% of the retail price. I loved it. Best gear I ever wore.

But despite having that equipment, we used whatever sticks we felt comfortable with.

I never officially asked the Vaughn rep, but I know the sticks weren’t part of our sponsorship, and it was more or less an unwritten rule that you just went with what you were comfortable with.

I know that I wasn’t a big fan of the lie and curves on some of the Sher-Woods, for example.

So, oddly enough much like the photos, I used a Nike/Bauer composite as it was light, had a good feel on the ice, and felt good in my hands.

Goalies are fickle folk, don’t ask us why we do things, just go with it. Its for the best :-P

[quote comment=”296636″]After showing Eight Men Out last night TCM showed The Stratton Story, which also centers around the White Sox. It got me to thinking about movies that “star” a particular MLB team. How many teams have been served this way? Here’s what I’ve got:

NY Yankees: Damn Yankees
LA Dodgers: The Geisha Boy
LA Angels: Angels in the Outfield (’94)
Chi White Sox: Eight Men Out/The Stratton Story
Chi Cubs: Rookie of the Year
Cleveland: Major League
San Diego: The Kid From Left Field
Pittsburgh: Angels in the Outfield (’51)
Boston: Fear Strikes Out
Detroit: One in a Million: The Ron LeFlore Story

Others?[/quote]
Minnesota: Little Big League, Major League 3 – Back to the Minors (Team in a supporting role)
Milwaukee: Mr. 3000
Detroit: For the Love of the Game
San Francisco: The Fan
Boston: Fever Pitch
St. Louis: The Pride of St. Louis (Dizzy Dean Biopic)
Tampa Bay: The Rookie

Excellent. Have there been no New York Mets movies? That’s weird.

[quote comment=”296636″]After showing Eight Men Out last night TCM showed The Stratton Story, which also centers around the White Sox. It got me to thinking about movies that “star” a particular MLB team. How many teams have been served this way? Here’s what I’ve got:

NY Yankees: Damn Yankees
LA Dodgers: The Geisha Boy
LA Angels: Angels in the Outfield (’94)
Chi White Sox: Eight Men Out/The Stratton Story
Chi Cubs: Rookie of the Year
Cleveland: Major League
San Diego: The Kid From Left Field
Pittsburgh: Angels in the Outfield (’51)
Boston: Fear Strikes Out
Detroit: One in a Million: The Ron LeFlore Story

Others?[/quote]

I guess you can call it a featured team
San Fracisco Giants: The Fan

here’s a whole list of baseball movies. There’s one on there for the Padres (The Kid From Left Field)
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I work with the Columbus Cottonmouths of the SPHL. I know our goalies use Vaughn pads because that is what they like. The SPHL however has a deal with Sher-wood sticks so all players including goalies have to use Sher-wood sticks. All the other position players have to use Sher-wood gloves, breezers and any other equipment that they need. Also on a side note the Cottonmouths had pink jerseys last night and will wear them again tonight. I will try to get some pictures and put up tomorrow.

[quote comment=”296639″]Excellent. Have there been no New York Mets movies? That’s weird.[/quote]
“Frequency” featured the ’69 Mets and “Game 6” was about the 1986 Series. Not true Sports Movies though.

About the goalie equipment; having worked in a sporting goods store in Canada, I can tell you that certain manufacturers make certain goalie products at a higher quality than others. For example, Vaughn makes excellent pads, but poor helmets and sticks. Almost all Vaughn goalies will sport a different stick and helmet (see: Kipprusoff, Miika) But, when a manufacturer (like Reebok) attempts to supply the entire kit, you see some consistency (see: Roberto, Luongo).

[quote comment=”296639″]Excellent. Have there been no New York Mets movies? That’s weird.[/quote]
Not a sports movie, but link featured the Mets’ link in a cameo role, staring in amazement in centerfield as a flying saucer soared over Shea.

[quote comment=”296651″]Fever Pitch doesn’t count due to the fact that it’s only marginally a film.

Also; I’m sure Paul will find this on his own, but the Rays are apparently wearing “link” now that they’re in Philly. I’m hoping they revolutionize the fitted cap culture in America’s colder locales; everybody needs something to laugh at these days.[/quote]
Oddly enough, link link usually link his link link

“Scwewwy Ways!”

KU wearing the crimson alternates today. Looking pretty sharp IMO.

[quote comment=”296628″]Speaking as an non-sponsored, amateur goalie… Going back to their non-sponsored days, goalies find equipment that they like and usually stick with it. Different leg pads have different rebound absorption spring to them, some gloves just feel better on your hands than others, etc. And no one fools around with masks. We could care less if someone paid us to use what would be, in our opinion, an unsafe or dangerous piece of equipment.
So, goalies are actually paid to wear equipment pieces, and so will wear what they like. Currently Bauer (Nike spun them off, so we don’t say Nike-Bauer anymore) makes a great composite goalie stick. Actually, if you really look at most goalie equipment, you’ll see Vaughn or Reebok labels on most of the outer pads. Those two manufacturers tend to dominate hockey pads. Many goalies appear to use Itech masks. Some of those masks aren’t actually Itech ones though. Others use masks made by small manufacturers such as Hackva, Eddy, or Sportmask. Inside equipment, such as chest/arm protection, tends to also come from either Vaughn or Reebok. Many of us wear Graf, CCM, or Vapor skates.
If you check with most goalies, you’d be surprised at how old some of their equipment is. They like it, it gets broken in, and they get it refurbished again and again. See Brodeur, Martin — Mask.[/quote]

Just to add something, Marty Biron once said in an interview while he was here in Buffalo that if he ever found a left pad and a right pad from two different companies he would wear them as long as they felt good.

I’m watching the OU-Kansas St. game. The kicker for KSU had some kind of patch on his jersey just above his NOB. I don’t have HD or the capability to do screen grabs, but any KState fans out there know what the patch is? Also, is #16 the only player wearing it?

[quote comment=”296636″]After showing Eight Men Out last night TCM showed The Stratton Story, which also centers around the White Sox. It got me to thinking about movies that “star” a particular MLB team. How many teams have been served this way? Here’s what I’ve got:

NY Yankees: Damn Yankees
LA Dodgers: The Geisha Boy
LA Angels: Angels in the Outfield (’94)
Chi White Sox: Eight Men Out/The Stratton Story
Chi Cubs: Rookie of the Year
Cleveland: Major League
San Diego: The Kid From Left Field
Pittsburgh: Angels in the Outfield (’51)
Boston: Fear Strikes Out
Detroit: One in a Million: The Ron LeFlore Story

Others?[/quote]

It’s been a while since I’ve watched Eight Men Out but if they show any of the World Series games at all, the Cincinnati Reds would be included.

[quote comment=”296636″]After showing Eight Men Out last night TCM showed The Stratton Story, which also centers around the White Sox. It got me to thinking about movies that “star” a particular MLB team. How many teams have been served this way? Here’s what I’ve got:

NY Yankees: Damn Yankees
LA Dodgers: The Geisha Boy
LA Angels: Angels in the Outfield (’94)
Chi White Sox: Eight Men Out/The Stratton Story
Chi Cubs: Rookie of the Year
Cleveland: Major League
San Diego: The Kid From Left Field
Pittsburgh: Angels in the Outfield (’51)
Boston: Fear Strikes Out
Detroit: One in a Million: The Ron LeFlore Story

Others?[/quote]

Yankees also star in “The Scout” which I hadn’t even thought about in years until just now.

[quote comment=”296645″]Yankees: 61*, The Pride of the Yankees, Bang the Drum Slowly

Detroit: Cobb[/quote]

Bang the Drum Slowly actually featured a fictional team called the New York Mammoths. Their uniforms resembled the Yankees’ and the baseball scenes were filmed at Shea.

[quote comment=”296670″][quote comment=”296645″]Yankees: 61*, The Pride of the Yankees, Bang the Drum Slowly

Detroit: Cobb[/quote]

Bang the Drum Slowly actually featured a fictional team called the New York Mammoths. Their uniforms resembled the Yankees’ and the baseball scenes were filmed at Shea.[/quote]

Also, some at YS (pre-renovation). Opening day anthem scene, bullpen scene they are wearing homes at YS. Also, when the Mammoths are wearing roads, they were filmed at YS. But you are correct, game “action” wearing homes are at Shea.

It was mentioned earlier the association of Damn Yankees is with the Yankees, wouldn’t a closer association be with the Washington Senators?

Not sure if this stuff has been mentioned, but it looks like the stick for the Vokoun is in San Jose colors. Maybe Nike/Bauer only makes it in that color scheme? Maybe he was borrowing a Sharks goalie’s stick (though very unlikely)?

Also, while most catcher’s have the same brand gear, that doesn’t always include the mitt since some gear maker’s don’t make gloves and some catchers seem to prefer a glove brand that’s different from the gear brand.

[quote comment=”296675″][quote comment=”296673″]link – California Angels
Brewster’s Millions (1985) – New York Yankees (& Durham Bulls)
link – New York Yankees, Detroit Tigers, (& Nagoya Chunichi Dragons)
link – Minnesota Twins
link – New York Yankees
link (The Pete Grey Story) – St. Louis Browns
link – Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees, Boston Braves
link – New York Mets

My apologies for any repeats.[/quote]

Monte Brewster’s HACKENSACK Bulls played the Yanks.[/quote]

Damn…you’re absolutely right. BIG link link on that one. Thanks.

Atlanta Braves: Slugger’s Wife (1985)
Cleveland Indians: It’s My Turn (1980)

[quote comment=”296676″][quote comment=”296675″][quote comment=”296673″]link – California Angels
Brewster’s Millions (1985) – New York Yankees (& Durham Bulls)
link – New York Yankees, Detroit Tigers, (& Nagoya Chunichi Dragons)
link – Minnesota Twins
link – New York Yankees
link (The Pete Grey Story) – St. Louis Browns
link – Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees, Boston Braves
link – New York Mets

My apologies for any repeats.[/quote]

Monte Brewster’s HACKENSACK Bulls played the Yanks.[/quote]

Damn…you’re absolutely right. BIG link link on that one. Thanks.[/quote]

No biggie. Looked for a shot of the satin uniforms Monte bought for the Bulls, coun’t find ’em.

Chicago Cubs: Taking Care of Business

In Gung Ho (1986), George Wendt remarks that the Assan Motors softball team looks like the Yankees, “I hate ’em already” Wendt said.

It also feature link.

Man… the helmets for the VT OL look beat to shit today. They’ve got the old school NFL uglies look to ’em… I like it

Not to mention they’re wearing the throwbacks… Nice

Cool. Dartmouth v. Columbia on VS. Never seen either of them live before.

Great to finally get a look at those unique, longstanding Dartmouth helmets on actual moving football players.

And they aren’t wearing their green pants, either.

—Ricko

My bad…apparently the Spartans only wear those pants with the green jerseys. Today, they are all in white. Carry on…

Vokoun and the Panthers played awesomely last night. 47 saves (yet not one of the game’s 3 stars) in beating the Sharks.

The Panthers uniforms are growing on me, but they’ll never be as great as the previous ones. Especially with that ugly blue box around Reebok’s neck logo.

TOSU v PSU

uniwise, it doesn’t get much better than this one

The Quebec Major Junior Hockey League’s Halifax Mooseheads wore “special” jerseys for Breast Cancer Awareness last night

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[quote comment=”296691″]It was nice to see Oklahoma wearing red sleeves under the away jerseys…I’m 99% sure OU has never worn red undershirts in a game. Not sure if they’ll do this at home.
link

it looks good and picture 2 and 17 is a good view of the Revolution Speed

link on NHL.com about Winter Classic, including pictures of uniforms. Indeed, they are the ones leaked, mentioned in a post above. I think they are okay, but a little bit too retro. Like the Philly Eagles throwbacks last season, I just don’t think they will work with modern equipment. The Buffalo and Pittsburgh unis worked so well last season because they were designed, at least, to be worn with pads, gloves, and the modern stuff. These, originally, were sweaters that players wore without hardly any padding, as far as I know.

game on

Tampa’s manager, Joe Maddon, is wearing his cap with ear warming flaps tonight…

lol, sorry, it just looks goofy!

link

[quote comment=”296697″]Just got to thinking about how the NFL mandated tackle twill numbers a while back. Only two NFL teams never wore silk screened numbers during that time when they were in vogue. Can anyone name them?[/quote]

i believe its the browns and the 49ers, but i thought the steelers also never had screened numbers

[quote comment=”296703″]Rant start*

OK, I am sick and tired or things being advertised as, “The capital one halftime show… presented by… capital one.”

And, “The budweiser hot seat… brought to you by… budwesier.”

I am wondering when/why this trend started. Maybe the advertising is good, because I remembered those two off the top of my head… but nevertheless, I hate it.

rant over*[/quote]

do NOT get me started. I’m in the driveway on Sunday, washing the car as I usually do, I bring the radio outside to listen to the 49ers- from “the slingbox press box, Joe Starkey and Gary Plummer on the Samsung Niners Radio Network..”

B a r f.

[quote comment=”296711″]FOX just showed (9:41 Central Time) Matt Garza reading outloud something written on the bill of his cap. Nice to see FOX paying attention to Uniwatch focus items![/quote]

but jim, will they follow it up? they segued into when he (garza) got into it with navarro in june (did that have something to do with what is on the bill???)…

be nice to know what it says (or did i miss that?)…if not, get on that fox

[quote]They said he had the names of his kids written on the underside of the bill.[/quote]

thanks…

/what i get for not paying full attention…
//wonder if they can actually get a shot of the underside of that bill

[quote comment=”296671″][quote comment=”296656″]KU wearing the crimson alternates today. Looking pretty sharp IMO.[/quote]

Don’t the Jayhawks always lose when they wear the red tops?[/quote]

Orange Bowl last year over Virginia Tech…?

[quote comment=”296716″][quote comment=”296671″][quote comment=”296656″]KU wearing the crimson alternates today. Looking pretty sharp IMO.[/quote]

Don’t the Jayhawks always lose when they wear the red tops?[/quote]

Orange Bowl last year over Virginia Tech…?[/quote]

link

you know mangino was like “WTF is this?”

[quote comment=”296719″]One more thing…

ASU uses tridents instead of triangles to denote which side of the field you are on, next to the numbers… hehe.[/quote]

i remember that
the unitard look must be an arizona thing this week
UofA is going all red against USC

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for those of you wanting an in depth analysis of the Revolution Speed here’s the website

Pretty sure that Patrick Chung has a Riddell Revolution Speed on. I doubt that ANYONE has this game on DVR though… damn.

Not-quite-uni-related-notes:

Before a punt tonight in the second quarter, Willie Glasper and Patrick Chung played Rock-Paper-Scissors to see who got to take coverage… Chung lost.

Also, coming back from one of the third quarter commercial breaks in the LSU-Georgia game, there’s a picture of an LSU fan flipping the camera off with his finger on his hat…

An ASU fan has his popcorn bag over his face… hahaha… Go Ducks!

raiders! i don’t believe the raiders ever wore silk screens. i’ll say raiders and browns.

Hey someone more attentive than me:

How often does a baseball player have the top button of their uniform undone? Tampa’s Chad Bradford is suffering from that affliction right now.

Arizona and Arizona State’s coaching staffs have the same shirt. State’s is maroon striped, while Arizona’s is navy striped.

[quote comment=”296707″][quote comment=”296704″]Tampa’s manager, Joe Maddon, is wearing his cap with ear warming flaps tonight…

lol, sorry, it just looks goofy![/quote]

I agree. The boys of summer shouldn’t have ear flaps!

If you go to the foxsports.com live feed (well, 2-minute delay feed), one of the camera guys keeps zooming in on the 3rd baseman’s shoes… not quite sure why, though.[/quote]

I can’t tell. Is that a uniform hat worn over a regular hat with ear flaps, or is it a uniform hat altered to have ear flaps?

[quote comment=”296736″][quote comment=”296707″][quote comment=”296704″]Tampa’s manager, Joe Maddon, is wearing his cap with ear warming flaps tonight…

lol, sorry, it just looks goofy![/quote]

I agree. The boys of summer shouldn’t have ear flaps!

If you go to the foxsports.com live feed (well, 2-minute delay feed), one of the camera guys keeps zooming in on the 3rd baseman’s shoes… not quite sure why, though.[/quote]

I can’t tell. Is that a uniform hat worn over a regular hat with ear flaps, or is it a uniform hat altered to have ear flaps?[/quote]

It was disgusting discussed earlier today.

[quote comment=”296737″][quote comment=”296724″]Pretty sure that Patrick Chung has a Riddell Revolution Speed on. I doubt that ANYONE has this game on DVR though… damn.[/quote]

the only time i saw the game was on an update on fsn[/quote]

It’s literally ONLY broadcast on Oregon’s campus.

The Mets and the Yankees were featured as a sub-plot in a faux-world series in the movie “Bad Lieutenant”.

They show Darryl Strawberry and Gooden (if I recall)in their classic ’86 pinstripes.

Article on NHL.com about Winter Classic, including pictures of uniforms. Indeed, they are the ones leaked, mentioned in a post above. I think they are okay, but a little bit too retro. Like the Philly Eagles throwbacks last season, I just don’t think they will work with modern equipment. The Buffalo and Pittsburgh unis worked so well last season because they were designed, at least, to be worn with pads, gloves, and the modern stuff.

If you look carefully, you’ll see that they’ll be made of the modern material, and the modern construction. I think that’s why the Hawks didn’t go with the “barberpole” look of the 40s (used in 1992 as the throwback) — Reebok’s new templates can’t handle it. But they can handle one broad stripe around the body, as in the Canadiens’ home jersey.

The numbers the Hawks will wear on the back will be black, with thick white and red edging.

[quote comment=”296739″][quote comment=”296736″][quote comment=”296707″][quote comment=”296704″]Tampa’s manager, Joe Maddon, is wearing his cap with ear warming flaps tonight…

lol, sorry, it just looks goofy![/quote]

I agree. The boys of summer shouldn’t have ear flaps!

If you go to the foxsports.com live feed (well, 2-minute delay feed), one of the camera guys keeps zooming in on the 3rd baseman’s shoes… not quite sure why, though.[/quote]

I can’t tell. Is that a uniform hat worn over a regular hat with ear flaps, or is it a uniform hat altered to have ear flaps?[/quote]

from post 76 link

looks like a one piece cap with flaps sewn in…also…i don’t think it has the WS logo on it[/quote]

But I just noticed it does show a standard MLB logo when the flaps are turned up

[quote comment=”296745″]haven’t puckers always worn gloves and pads?[/quote]
Well, the link did.

here is the story on Joe Maddon’s hat

link

looks like he is the only one wearing it. And it does have the WS logo on the left side.

[quote comment=”296749″][quote comment=”296717″]Interesting notes in a game you can’t see (it’s only on closed circuit on campus):

Jeremiah Massoli and Ed Dickson were sitting next to each other on the bench, white jerseys, and the underarm portion on Dickson’s uniform was much, much larger.

There’s two refs who are wearing socks with differing sock patterns.

Cole Linehan’s rocking some wicked bad cry black. (so was Texas Tech’s center earlier today)

Nick Reed, rumor has it, wears the grey shirt under his jersey so that his mother can tell which one is him.

White helmet/white jersey/yellow pants… looks good on top and then YEEEEEECH.

Arizona State is in red/red and it looks unitarded. The tape on the belts is black, so it’s hard to differentiate that from the belt itself (as ASU wears a dark red).

The ASU coaching staff’s white polo with red stripes looks sharp.

When did ASU put the interlocked AS on the left hip of the pants?[/quote]
I just got back form that game and I must say it was one of the worst football games i’ve seen, both uni- and footballwise… a zillion turnovers for both teams, white-on-white-on-yellow and maroon-on-maroon.

BTW, I’m pretty sure the AS has been on the hip since they introduced the maroon pants two years ago, i think.[/quote]
You’re right. I don’t even want to see the highlights of this game…
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[quote comment=”296729″][quote comment=”296708″][quote comment=”296697″]Just got to thinking about how the NFL mandated tackle twill numbers a while back. Only two NFL teams never wore silk screened numbers during that time when they were in vogue. Can anyone name them?[/quote]

i believe its the browns and the 49ers, but i thought the steelers also never had screened numbers[/quote]

the niners wore silk screen or heat transfer numbers in their first super bowl.

browns and steelers might be a good guess. maybe colts?[/quote]

Niners in 1981 were heat transfered, not sure when they switched but by ’84 they were screened.

Don’t know if this story had made UW but in 1988, most of the Niners were wearing the narrow sleeve stripes (I think including JM). Montana has told the story that his wife packed his SBXIX jersey for him to take to SBXXIII, which he wore. So JM’s jersey looks a little different than everyone elses in that game.

[quote comment=”296755″][quote comment=”296754″][quote comment=”296729″][quote comment=”296708″][quote comment=”296697″]Just got to thinking about how the NFL mandated tackle twill numbers a while back. Only two NFL teams never wore silk screened numbers during that time when they were in vogue. Can anyone name them?[/quote]

i believe its the browns and the 49ers, but i thought the steelers also never had screened numbers[/quote]

the niners wore silk screen or heat transfer numbers in their first super bowl.

browns and steelers might be a good guess. maybe colts?[/quote]

Niners in 1981 were heat transfered, not sure when they switched but by ’84 they were screened.

Don’t know if this story had made UW but in 1988, most of the Niners were wearing the narrow sleeve stripes (I think including JM). Montana has told the story that his wife packed his SBXIX jersey for him to take to SBXXIII, which he wore. So JM’s jersey looks a little different than everyone elses in that game.[/quote]

Yup, Joe had switched by then: link
Here he is in SBXXII with the old jersey: link.jpg
Kinda cool story, I think![/quote]

link

[quote comment=”296697″]Just got to thinking about how the NFL mandated tackle twill numbers a while back. Only two NFL teams never wore silk screened numbers during that time when they were in vogue. Can anyone name them?[/quote]

Pittsburg Steelers & Oakland Raiders

[quote comment=”296759″][quote comment=”296697″]Just got to thinking about how the NFL mandated tackle twill numbers a while back. Only two NFL teams never wore silk screened numbers during that time when they were in vogue. Can anyone name them?[/quote]

Pittsburg Steelers & Oakland Raiders[/quote]

CORRECTION

I’m gonna say that the Steelers are the only team to never have worn silk screen in game. I don’t believe that they ever wore screened numbers.
I believe they are also the last teanm to wear solid dureen jerseys. DOUBLE KUDOS !!!

Kudos to the Raiders, Browns, 49ers and a few others thar wore twill during the almost exclusive screened number era.

However, it just seems that all of these teams at one time or another wore screened numbers before the most recent trend toward twill. numbers.

Query, do any teams still wear screened numbers, and which was the last to do so? I say the Chargers were the last to wear screened numbers.

I also heard that some of the Giants receivers wore screened numbers only on THE FRONT of their jerseys after the team switched to twill in order to avoid fumbles and to better catch the ball.
A jersey collector told me awhile back that he bought a Giants gamer like this from MeiGray.

Anyone know if that is true.

[quote comment=”296754″]

Don’t know if this story had made UW but in 1988, most of the Niners were wearing the narrow sleeve stripes (I think including JM). Montana has told the story that his wife packed his SBXIX jersey for him to take to SBXXIII, which he wore. So JM’s jersey looks a little different than everyone elses in that game.[/quote]

Another telltale: his NOB is a different font from everyone else’s (they all have serifs, he doesn’t).

Still haven’t seen any good pics of the Blackhawks/Red Wings outdoor jerseys, well, these earn the right to say that they’re sweaters.