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I have a new ESPN feature today, but it’s not uni-related, so we’ll continue here as usual.

So: I generally like Jerry Manuel. He cuffs his pants high, he’s clearly very smart, and he appears to be comfortable with who he is (a stark contrast to Willie Randolph, who always sounded defensive). I hope the Mets bring him back next season, no matter how the rest of this week plays out.

But there’s one aspect to his game — an aspect that’s a crucial part of any manager’s visual repertoire — that’s really been bugging me: I hate the way he changes pitchers.

When Manuel wants to bring in a fresh arm, he hops out of the dugout, starts jogging, and quickly signals to the bullpen by raising his hand and waving it, like he’s hailing a cab or something. When pointing to the ’pen, he waggles his finger around, sort of like an umpire signaling a home run. All the while, he’s still jogging, which he continues to do until he reaches the mound.

Here’s what I don’t like about it:

• Manuel’s too jumpy to leave the dugout. In this shot, you can see that he’s already gone into his trot before the batter (who had walked) has reached first base! Similarly, when Jon Neisse gave up that salami to Jason Marquis on Monday night, Manuel had left the dugout and already signaled to the ’pen before Marquis had reached home plate. Dude, show a little patience and let the batter finish doing his thing before you start doing your thing. Maybe Manuel thinks his quick dash looks decisive, but to me it just makes him look like an overprotective parent scurrying out to rescue a vulnerable child. Which leads us to”¦

• Once he’s on his way to the mound, he signals to the ’pen way too quickly. He always does it before reaching the baseline chalk (which seems like bad form), and often well before the next hitter has been announced (which is bad strategy). Look, in this shot he’s still on the warning track in front of the dugout — he hasn’t even reached the foul territory grass yet! Leaving aside the question of why anyone would be a big hurry to call for anyone in the Mets ’pen, the whole thing feels too rushed, too premature. Is he afraid that the pitcher or catcher will talk him out of it if he doesn’t make the call before he reaches the mound?

• I hate the little finger-wave signal. It looks bad enough on its own (always makes me think of this or this), but it looks extra-bad when combined with the rush out of the dugout. When my team’s just given up a big hit, the last thing I want to see is the skipper looking panicky. That’s how I always feel when I see Manuel scampering out there and waving his hand — almost seems like he’s waving a white flag instead of just his index finger. What’s wrong with a nice, slow walk to the mound? At a moment like this, I want calm, steady leadership, not a frenzied “Oh my god, the ship is sinking, get me a reliever right away, HEEELLLLLLPP!!!” Looks like amateur hour out there.

Manuel’s particular approach notwithstanding, the act of a manager signaling for a new pitcher is one of those great little visual protocols that are unique to baseball. There’s the overhand method (raise arm about three-quarters and decisively point), the underhand method (half-extend arm at hip level and cock wrist repeatedly), and, my favorite, the crossover method (extend one arm and tap inner forearm with fingers of opposite hand). Next time you’re practicing these moves in the mirror — we all know you do it, just like we know you practice football ref signals, so don’t bother denying it — try Manuel’s delivery and see how it compares. I think you’ll agree that it’s unworthy of serious consideration. Does anyone know if he used to do it this way back when he managed the Chisox?

One other Manuel-related protocol worth mentioning: Soon after he took over for Randolph, Mets pitchers who were being removed from a game got in the habit of waiting on the mound for the new pitcher to arrive before departing for the dugout. The idea was to show solidarity with the next guy and metaphorically hand off the baton to him (or maybe just to say, “If my ERA goes up because you let these runners score, you’re totally paying for my next batch of HGH”). I liked this approach, which I believe was much more common in the 1970s and ’80s, but now the Mets appear to have stopped doing it. Too bad.

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Juicy Oregon Scoop Hoax Tease: So two nights ago I got a note from someone named Alex. Mr. Alex said he had some news relating to this recent Ticker item about Nike breaking out a new look for Oregon at some point this season. Here’s what Mr. Alex wrote:

I just graduated from Oregon. During my final class this summer, we had a group project. One of my group members told me about his uncle, who is personal friends with Phil Knight. During dinner one night, Phil told my friend’s uncle and his dad about the Oregon uniforms. They are going to be a solid, one-piece uniform (unitard) with a very space/tech edge. “Very strange-looking” was my friend’s description. And apparently they will be worn at homecoming versus UCLA [which is on October 11th].

Whether it will be all-black, including helmets, as someone mentioned in the comments following that article you posted to, I am not sure. But my friend said that is solid inside information from his uncle.

Hahahahahahahaha. My compliments to Mr. Alex for being able to type that last sentence without, like, rupturing a kidney from laughing so hard. An inside tip from a reader’s friend’s uncle’s close personal friend Phil Knight isn’t quite as good as this, but it’s getting there.

Naturally, I was suspicious, especially since it seems fishy that Phil Knight would have friends over for dinner without inviting me, am I right? So I went ahead and did some checking on Mr. Alex (who has a last name but asked me not to use it), and it appears that he is indeed a recent Oregon grad, so that part of his story checks out. Of course, that doesn’t mean he isn’t pulling my leg, or that the story, even if Mr. Alex is on the square, hasn’t morphed a bit on its way from Phil Knight to the uncle to the friend to Mr. Alex.

But here’s the thing: I’ve predicted for a while now that the advent of a football unitard was only a matter of time, what with the skintight jerseys and the ever-widening superhero design trope. Frankly, I think it makes a lot of sense, at least from a practical standpoint, although it will no doubt look uglier than a festering sore. And if such a one-piece uniform were to debut, who better to showcase it than the Ducks? As completely unconfirmed and unsubstantiated rumors from semi-anonymous readers’ friends’ uncles’ close personal friend Phil Knight go, this one sounds pretty plausible.

If any of you Nike people reading this would like to confirm or deny, I won’t use your name either.

(The added tragedy of all this, of course, is that even if this unsubstantiated rumor turns out to be true, I won’t be able to see the uniforms, because I’ll be on tour with the Forewords on October 11th. Phil Knight’s gonna have to cook me a really good dinner to make up for this one.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: The audio is NSFW, but get a set of headphones or something so you can hear George Brett talking about a very special kind of uniform disaster. ”¦ Patrick Ryan notes that Prince Fielder appears to be wearing official Brewers boxers. ”¦ New mask designs for Martin Gerber (additional info here) and Patrick Lalime (all pics poached from the Chris Creamer board). ”¦ Cute. Details here (with thanks to Matt Bachovchin). ”¦ For those who are wondering, Joe Skiba says he’s not sure yet if the Giants will wear a memorial patch or decal for Dick Lynch, but they’ve got a bye this week, so they’ll certainly have enough time to come up with something nice by their next game. ”¦ Great old movie poster here (with thanks to Ronnie Poore). ”¦ Mike Verna reports that These guys have moved from Tucson to Reno and are now these guys. ”¦ Once upon a time, nobody was required to wear white (with thanks to Tim Powers). ”¦ The Canadiens have unveiled their centennial initiative, which among other things will feature six different throwback jerseys. There’s a photo gallery here, and an additional gallery here that shows what the 2009 All-Star Game jerseys will look like as well. ”¦ Turns out we all missed a great little detail Colorado/CSU game back on August 31st (but fortunately Johnathan Valdez didn’t): Colorado was wearing a helmet decal showing the American and Colorado flag (here’s another view). Not clear whether CSU was wearing it too. ”¦ Pretty funny uni-related Minnesota Wild commercial here (even if it’s a total stylistic rip-off of the “This is SportsCenter” campaign, but I won’t blame Jeff Barak for that). ”¦ Check out the Sabres’ new ice: no center slug! (Thanks to Mark Kluczynski.) ”¦ Still more about Saints punter Steve Weatherford and his wedding band and wristwatch: According to the “Watch Your Jewelry” item in the middle of this page, Weatherford wasn’t wearing the bling during pregame warm-ups, so he apparently puts it on specifically for the game (with thanks to Rachel Bicicchi). ”¦ Several cool old high school football pics from Nick Zajicek: Faux stirrups don’t look any better on the gridiron than they do on the diamond; nice helmet logo here; and this is the team from Brownwood, Texas — the stars on the shoulders represent the school’s number of state championships. ”¦ Mike Menner was at last night’s Twins/Chisox game and was given a 2009 schedule (apparently next year’s MLB schedule was announced last week, which seems much earlier than usual, no?). As you can see, it does say “Early Schedule,” so maybe it’s preliminary or something. Anyway: “The schedule features a logo for the last year in the Metrdome and a graphic that could be new formal signage for the new ballpark, Target Field.” I’m not supposed to tell you this, or even know about it, but since they’re already pimping it on that schedule I will happily confirm that the Metrodome logo will be worn as a home sleeve patch next season. ”¦ Hey, speaking of schedules: The MLB schedule is all done by computer these days. But it used to be done by hand by Henry and Holly Stephenson, a husband-and-wife couple whose daughter Katie happens to be a good friend of my Forewords bandmate Liz Clayton (not quite as good as knowing about the new Oregon uniforms via a reader’s friend’s uncle, but whaddaya gonna do). Upon being introduced to Katie during one of Liz’s social events in 2004 and being told what her parents did for a living, I peppered her with questions about the schedule-making process, her parents’ methodology, etc. She basically ended the conversation by saying, “Everyone thinks it’s really complicated, but it’s not. They do most of it just by sitting down with a bunch of index cards while watching MacGyver.” This was right when the Stephensons were in the process of losing the schedule contract, so I asked Katie for their phone number, because I was certain I could save their gig if I wrote a heart-tugging piece about this adorable couple slavishly working over the MLB schedule (I figured I’d probably leave out the MacGyver part). Unfortunately, they didn’t want to be interviewed, so that was the end of that. A pity…. Collateral Gammage and I will be attending tonight’s Mets/Cubs game, where I’ll probably get to see Jerry Manuel doing the “Oh, waiter, another basket of bread sticks, please!” routine way too many times. Weather’s supposed to be iffy, so please do an anti-rain dance for us. Thanks.

 
  
 
Comments (172)

    I like the way that Manuel looks all panicky… As long as he and the Mets keep giving up games so Prince Fielder and his official Brewers boxers can climb back to the Wild Card lead!

    My biggest question with the one piece suits… how do they get them over their pads? Sounds like a whole lot of zipper problems waiting to happen.

    MLB schedules came out a week or so ago. Got lots of coverage in Chicago, at least. I haven’t checked every team’s mlb.com page, but the ones I have checked have a link to it.

    Early Uniwatch today, I love it…

    Very excited to get a little uni history while watching the Canadiens this year. Looking forward to this one the most:

    link

    Seeing they are going to be RBK jerseys, wonder if they are going to be available to buy. I’d like the chance to pick up this one.

    Not all jerseys in that photo gallery were RBK templates. Wonder why RBK got some but not the others.

    Quick search to see if the 100 anniversey ‘sweaters’ were for sale led me to this…

    link

    Good. God.

    Do women burst into flames if they wear a regular jersey or something? Is there like a skin rash that happans or something if they wear a jersey that’s the correct colors? This is horrible.

    [quote comment=”291573″]MLB schedules came out a week or so ago. Got lots of coverage in Chicago, at least. I haven’t checked every team’s mlb.com page, but the ones I have checked have a link to it.[/quote]

    Sure enough, you’re right — I missed the boat on that one (and will now update the Ticker text).

    Sad note: For the first time in Mets history, the home opener will be a night game. This is reason enough to hate Citi Field.

    Those shorts on Prince Fielder aren’t boxers …
    They’re compression shorts. With Brewers logos on them.

    This site even figured out what company makes them … check out the awesome name of the underwear company.
    link

    Oh … that link includes a closeup of Fielders waist. So beware.

    [quote comment=”291576″]Those shorts on Prince Fielder aren’t boxers …
    They’re compression shorts. With Brewers logos on them.

    This site even figured out what company makes them … check out the awesome name of the underwear company.
    link

    Oh … that link includes a closeup of Fielders waist. So beware.[/quote]

    Boxers, compression shorts, diaper, whatever. It’s plastered with the most boring logo in the bigs!

    Quick search to see if the 100 anniversey ’sweaters’ were for sale led me to this…

    link

    Good. God.

    Do women burst into flames if they wear a regular jersey or something? Is there like a skin rash that happans or something if they wear a jersey that’s the correct colors? This is horrible.

    I have to say, all the excitement and joy I had after waking up and looking at that gallery of great Canadiens throwbacks, is gone, I mean, if I could have just drowned myself in my coffee mug I would have….

    [quote comment=”291578″]Quick search to see if the 100 anniversey ’sweaters’ were for sale led me to this…

    link

    Good. God.

    Do women burst into flames if they wear a regular jersey or something? Is there like a skin rash that happans or something if they wear a jersey that’s the correct colors? This is horrible.

    I have to say, all the excitement and joy I had after waking up and looking at that gallery of great Canadiens throwbacks, is gone, I mean, if I could have just drowned myself in my coffee mug I would have….[/quote]

    It hurts the eyes doesn’t……

    [quote comment=”291579″][quote comment=”291578″]Quick search to see if the 100 anniversey ’sweaters’ were for sale led me to this…

    link

    Good. God.

    Do women burst into flames if they wear a regular jersey or something? Is there like a skin rash that happans or something if they wear a jersey that’s the correct colors? This is horrible.

    I have to say, all the excitement and joy I had after waking up and looking at that gallery of great Canadiens throwbacks, is gone, I mean, if I could have just drowned myself in my coffee mug I would have….[/quote]

    It hurts the eyes doesn’t……[/quote]

    it could be worse jim…it could be link

    Great topic today. I always loved the casual tap of the inner forearm of the arm corresponding to the lefty-righty for whom the manager is calling.

    Such a move makes the manager look like he is in total control, and needs to make only a slight motion to get what he wants. Too cool.

    Those old Brazoswood Buccaneers helmets were awesome. Now they just wear copies of Tampa Bay’s pewter helmets (w/ blue instead of red).

    Perhaps someone can find a B&W photo of the old iconic uniforms that the Port Neches-Groves Indians used to wear (they’re purple…wouldn’t want to offend Paul’s sensibilities). I loved those wacky pants and sleeve stripes.

    [quote comment=”291581″][quote comment=”291579″][quote comment=”291578″]Quick search to see if the 100 anniversey ’sweaters’ were for sale led me to this…

    link

    Good. God.

    Do women burst into flames if they wear a regular jersey or something? Is there like a skin rash that happans or something if they wear a jersey that’s the correct colors? This is horrible.

    I have to say, all the excitement and joy I had after waking up and looking at that gallery of great Canadiens throwbacks, is gone, I mean, if I could have just drowned myself in my coffee mug I would have….[/quote]

    It hurts the eyes doesn’t……[/quote]

    it could be worse jim…it could be link[/quote]

    they’re all bad in my book Phil, but yes, I hate those as well.

    I don’t have a problem with the ‘Buffaslug’ as people call it, but I am SO glad to bee one of my favorite logos return to the ice surface…

    link

    Can’t see in the pic, but wonder it it has the ‘red eye’…

    Jerry Manuel must be the only major league manager following MLB’s directive to speed up the game by hustling out to the mound.

    Jim Leyland is still putting out his cigarette butt in his first few steps on the field. With the amount of pitching changes Detroit has had to make this year, I wouldn’t mind a little huff and puff hustle out of the Old Skipper.

    Ya gotta love the tap on the forearm call to the pen too.

    Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.

    [quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.

    Re: George Brett video.

    Apparently, some stadium organs played the brown note on the lower registers.

    [quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?

    Too bad the former MLB schedule makers wouldn’t consent to an interview. I bet they have some interesting and humurous tales to tell.

    Paul had an item last year about K-State’s Black Lion recognition. AP has done a story about he relationship the team has with the Army unit based in nearby Fort Riley that’s seen action in Iraq: link
    Here’s a nice pic: link

    There’s audio of someone asking about his celebrated case of hemorrhoids. George’s reply: “Yeah, I took a shit today. You know when you get laid and your girlfriend sticks her finger in you’re a**hole, I don’t think I’ll do that for a while” Classic.

    There was some discussion earlier in the week about who croons to the Yanks after losses. At least on this night, it was Old Blue Eyes: link

    [quote comment=”291575″][quote comment=”291573″]MLB schedules came out a week or so ago. Got lots of coverage in Chicago, at least. I haven’t checked every team’s mlb.com page, but the ones I have checked have a link to it.[/quote]

    Sure enough, you’re right — I missed the boat on that one (and will now update the Ticker text).

    Sad note: For the first time in Mets history, the home opener will be a night game. This is reason enough to hate Citi Field.[/quote]

    They did that with Miller Park, too. I presume it’s for ESPN’s prime time coverage.

    [quote comment=”291577″][quote comment=”291576″]Those shorts on Prince Fielder aren’t boxers …
    They’re compression shorts. With Brewers logos on them.

    This site even figured out what company makes them … check out the awesome name of the underwear company.
    link

    Oh … that link includes a closeup of Fielders waist. So beware.[/quote]

    Boxers, compression shorts, diaper, whatever. It’s plastered with the most boring logo in the bigs![/quote]

    Wow. I couldn’t agree more. Is there any other team whose specific-use alternate logo stands head and shoulders above the primary (except, of course, the link?

    Still hoping they go back to link. Best logo the team ever had. Not holding my breath, but hoping.

    [quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[/quote]
    I don’t think anybody’s arguing that it looks good.

    Only that gestures of teamwork and camaraderie in a sporting landscape dominated by infants seeking attention are, you know, a good thing.

    I’ve been informed that the Sabres will return to the banana slug logo on the ice for the regular season. Apparently Carolina also has their “secondary” logo on the ice right now, to be replaced prior to their first game.

    [quote comment=”291601″]There was some discussion earlier in the week about who croons to the Yanks after losses. At least on this night, it was Old Blue Eyes: link
    The Yankees mercifully dropped Liza a couple years ago.

    As a follow up to Paul’s wonderful mention of my collection of jerseys last week, the University of Tennessee Ice Hockey club team (the Ice Vols) held their annual alumni game last Friday. The game marked the debut of the new sweaters for the Ice Vols and the team was kind enough to allow the alumni the first chance to wear them on the ice. Unfortunately, the orange jerseys weren’t done in time to add the Tennessee “Power T” logo, but the white sweaters were ready for the debut.

    Some alumni still had their game socks and gloves (the younger ones) but some of us graybeards had to go with whatever we had (which explains me as #7 in white wearing a Leafs look for my lower half.) Our favorite had to be the one alumni who had Foster’s Beer socks that he picked up in Australia.

    The slideshow is at the link below.:

    Tennessee Ice Vols Slideshow

    [quote comment=”291604″]…”True story….Who’s the pitchers in this game?”

    Just classic[/quote]

    That’s my favorite moment, too. PERFECT comic timing. How many takes do you think they had to do to get it just right like that?

    [quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[/quote]

    I have never debated that the un-tucking of the jersey doesn’t look like crap, because it does. It also looks sloppy. I have simply stated that I am willing to look past it because of its simple. It is a lot better then if the whole team did a stupid dance, or reversed their jersey or something like that.

    Nevertheless I agree with Paul saying the Brewers logo is very boring.
    link

    I like this one a lot better:
    link
    And was very mad when they took it off their BP hat.

    Hell.. I like this better:
    link

    Oh well, I guess I would rather be boring, than ugly.

    Apparently, the Wild have no interest in allowing fans to see that commercial. It’s gone now.

    I’m glad I got to see it once. I just didn’t have time to rip it and post it to YouTube. :o(

    [quote comment=”291612″]Apparently, the Wild have no interest in allowing fans to see that commercial. It’s gone now.

    I’m glad I got to see it once. I just didn’t have time to rip it and post it to YouTube. :o([/quote]

    Scrap that. It’s work’s crap network.

    Someone will pay for this!

    The Brett video gets funnier the more you watch.

    Uni-related:

    Why is Brett wearing 2 pair of sunglasses while telling his charming story?

    That George Brett video reminds me of an, let’s say, interesting piece of banter that the late Skip Caray and Pete Van Wieren, or it might have been Joe Simpson but I can’t remember, had a few years ago. They were talking about a Braves trip to Cincinnati in the mid 90’s and had some Skyline Chili in the club house before the game. They said that Terry Pendelton hit a ground ball to the infield, got thrown out at first, and continued to run into the dougout and straight into the clubhouse. They said since then Bobby Cox has forbid Skyline Chili in the clubehouse.

    “Alas, attempts to reach an local expert on such matters were unsuccessful.”

    OH NO YOU DIDN’T JUST WRITE THAT!

    [quote comment=”291611″][quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[/quote]

    I have never debated that the un-tucking of the jersey doesn’t look like crap, because it does. It also looks sloppy. I have simply stated that I am willing to look past it because of its simple. It is a lot better then if the whole team did a stupid dance, or reversed their jersey or something like that.

    Nevertheless I agree with Paul saying the Brewers logo is very boring.
    link

    I like this one a lot better:
    link
    And was very mad when they took it off their BP hat.

    Hell.. I like this better:
    link

    Oh well, I guess I would rather be boring, than ugly.[/quote]

    You can’t link directly to images on Chris’ site – link instead to the page on which each appears.

    [quote comment=”291616″]”Alas, attempts to reach an local expert on such matters were unsuccessful.”

    OH NO YOU DIDN’T JUST WRITE THAT![/quote]

    Huh, I thought I did. But if you say so.

    If a rumor that is relayed from Phil Knight to some guys dad to said some guy to you is too tenuous of a link, why report it at all? And if that’s enough of a lead to necessitate a blog post, why go on about how it’s not a very good lead?

    [quote]Why is Brett wearing 2 pair of sunglasses while telling his charming story?[/quote]

    after the unfortunate incident he described…he’s wearing two of everything now

    [quote comment=”291620″]If a rumor that is relayed from Phil Knight to some guys dad to said some guy to you is too tenuous of a link, why report it at all? And if that’s enough of a lead to necessitate a blog post, why go on about how it’s not a very good lead?[/quote]

    Because it’s fun. And because it raises the issue of a one-piece football uniform, which I think is something we’ll be seeing sooner or not-so-later.

    Since Paul is (planning on) going to Shea tonight, the game and tomorrow’s could get both get rained out. Tonight’s game may never get re-scheduled if it is unnecessary for the division/wild card and tomorrow’s cannot be a day-night doubleheader on saturday because the Mets have used the allotted day/night allowances per union contract. This could cause the team to lose $30 million in revenue.

    Or, Sunday’s last regular season game at Shea could be followed up with a regular season game on Monday and/or one-game playoff games that are technically regular season games

    Although I’m no Yankees/Dodgers fan, I think Joe Torre has always done a good job of handling the pitcher change.

    [quote comment=”291617″][quote comment=”291611″][quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[/quote]

    I have never debated that the un-tucking of the jersey doesn’t look like crap, because it does. It also looks sloppy. I have simply stated that I am willing to look past it because of its simple. It is a lot better then if the whole team did a stupid dance, or reversed their jersey or something like that.

    Nevertheless I agree with Paul saying the Brewers logo is very boring.
    link

    I like this one a lot better:
    link
    And was very mad when they took it off their BP hat.

    Hell.. I like this better:
    link

    Oh well, I guess I would rather be boring, than ugly.[/quote]

    You can’t link directly to images on Chris’ site – link instead to the page on which each appears.[/quote]

    Forgot about that…
    I really like this:
    link
    And was mad when they took it off the BP hat.

    And wish this was more than just a shoulder patch on they away jersey:
    link

    Poor Paul must be suffering through another Mets collapse if he’s worrying about how Manuel changes pitchers. GO BREWERS GO

    I don’t remember Jerry doing the pitcher change hustle when he was with the Sox. One difference between then and now is that the Sox have the third base dugout at home. It would be interesting to see if there is a difference in his routine depending on which dugout he’s in. I don’t know if he stilld does it, but one aspect of his pitching changes in Chicago that I loved was having the outgoing pitcher wait on the mound and hand the ball to incoming pitcher. Too cool.

    [quote comment=”291587″]NC State will be upset if Oregon beats them to the punch on football unitards.[/quote]

    Chris Corchiani, in vintage Nike Air Force 3’s, modeling as a uni-re-tard:
    link

    BTW, NC State was the only team that Chucky Brown was on for four years straight!
    link

    [quote comment=”291624″]Since Paul is (planning on) going to Shea tonight, the game and tomorrow’s could get both get rained out. Tonight’s game may never get re-scheduled if it is unnecessary for the division/wild card and tomorrow’s cannot be a day-night doubleheader on saturday because the Mets have used the allotted day/night allowances per union contract. This could cause the team to lose $30 million in revenue.

    Or, Sunday’s last regular season game at Shea could be followed up with a regular season game on Monday and/or one-game playoff games that are technically regular season games[/quote]

    Coupla things:

    1) The Mets players can waive the union rule by team vote if they so choose. So a day/nite DH is not out of the question.

    2) If today’s game is rained out, they’ll tentatively reschedule it for Monday, subject to whether it will affect the playoffs. I suspect they will announce that tickets for tonight’s game will be good for the Monday make-up game and will NOT be exchangeable for tickets to any of the Fri/Sat/Sun games with the Marlins (at least one of those games is sold out anyway). So if tonight’s game is rained out AND the Monday make-up game ends up being unnecessary and therefore isn’t played, do I get a refund on my tickets? Or am I just fucked? This is basically a variation on the “What happens to your raincheck if the last game of the season is rained out?” question. What’s the answer?

    Get us a win tonight, Paul!

    Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night AND Aramis Ramirez was rocking a mouth guard. What’s with that trend? First Manny, now Aramis. Is it a Ramirez thing? Is Hanley next?

    You should get a refund on the tickets. I did the year the Expos called off the rest of their home schedule when Olympic Stadium had structural problems.

    [quote comment=”291589″]’alex’ forwarded me a stolen pic of the prototype for the link

    /apparently it’s still in the design stage[/quote]

    No, Phil…with the direction that the Hoops unis went, I wouldn’t imagine this to be much of a stretch!

    link

    BTW, I was wondering…what is the….JK

    [quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.

    [quote comment=”291636″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    LINK :
    link

    No big deal I am sure my parents already have their Tampa Bay Rays world series tickets. Had to buy all 11 games at once.

    as you all (better) know… the nfl has changed it’s logo

    link (good image to save for future reference, y’all)…

    but link in the 1960’s…

    as to the new logo…the new shield features eight stars (representing the eight AFC and NFC divisions) vs. 25 on the current logo…why 25? it’s a mystery…after researching the shield’s origins, the designers could find no reason for 25 stars, says jaime weston, director of brand and creative operations…the shield logo was first used around 1940, two decades after the NFL’s founding in 1920…

    the football at the center has been redesigned to resemble the ball atop the vince lombardi championship trophy…it replaces the old-fashioned pigskin nicknamed the “hamburger” inside league offices…

    /the more ya know

    [quote comment=”291639″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.[/quote]

    It used to be a big deal when a team got permission from the league office to print postseason tickets. It was more of a big deal then, because the tickets were printed by an local offset operation not housed in the stadium, the physical tickets had to be distributed to various outlets where they were sold, etc.

    But today, “printing playoff tickets” just means programming a few more dates into your ticketing software and pressing “Enter.” Most tickets today are either printed on demand as they’re sold (like movie tickets) or are e-tickets (i.e., you make the purchase online and they mail you a PDF that YOU print out, instead of them printing it out). So the whole notion of “Whoa, watch out, we’re printing postseason tickets!” is meaningless.

    [quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[/quote]

    So, because you don’t like it, you want an explanation other than the completely valid, logical one that’s been presented over and over?

    We get it, you’re a Cubs fan and you hate the Brewers. Be done with it.

    [quote comment=”291644″][quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[/quote]

    So, because you don’t like it, you want an explanation other than the completely valid, logical one that’s been presented over and over?

    We get it, you’re a Cubs fan and you hate the Brewers. Be done with it.[/quote]

    gotta agree with nicole (and chance & johnny o) here…

    lets not do the ‘why do the brewers untuck’ today…please

    we all agree we hate the look and it’s sloppy…but there is a reason for it, whether you like it or not

    k? thanks

    [quote comment=”291576″]Those shorts on Prince Fielder aren’t boxers …
    They’re compression shorts. With Brewers logos on them.

    This site even figured out what company makes them … check out the awesome name of the underwear company.
    link

    Oh … that link includes a closeup of Fielders waist. So beware.[/quote]

    Yeah you beat me to it. Those are Toolshed Compression Shorts. All 30 teams have them, as do most upper level D-1 college programs. They’re great.

    [quote comment=”291630″][quote comment=”291624″]Since Paul is (planning on) going to Shea tonight, the game and tomorrow’s could get both get rained out. Tonight’s game may never get re-scheduled if it is unnecessary for the division/wild card and tomorrow’s cannot be a day-night doubleheader on saturday because the Mets have used the allotted day/night allowances per union contract. This could cause the team to lose $30 million in revenue.

    Or, Sunday’s last regular season game at Shea could be followed up with a regular season game on Monday and/or one-game playoff games that are technically regular season games[/quote]

    Coupla things:

    1) The Mets players can waive the union rule by team vote if they so choose. So a day/nite DH is not out of the question.

    2) If today’s game is rained out, they’ll tentatively reschedule it for Monday, subject to whether it will affect the playoffs. I suspect they will announce that tickets for tonight’s game will be good for the Monday make-up game and will NOT be exchangeable for tickets to any of the Fri/Sat/Sun games with the Marlins (at least one of those games is sold out anyway). So if tonight’s game is rained out AND the Monday make-up game ends up being unnecessary and therefore isn’t played, do I get a refund on my tickets? Or am I just fucked? This is basically a variation on the “What happens to your raincheck if the last game of the season is rained out?” question. What’s the answer?[/quote]

    Astros did this for their games because of Ike:

    Tickets purchased at the Minute Maid Park Box Office should be returned there for refund, while tickets purchased at an outlet location should be returned to that specific location. Refunds will only be given to the original ticket purchaser.

    link

    [quote comment=”291643″][quote comment=”291639″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.[/quote]

    It used to be a big deal when a team got permission from the league office to print postseason tickets. It was more of a big deal then, because the tickets were printed by an local offset operation not housed in the stadium, the physical tickets had to be distributed to various outlets where they were sold, etc.

    But today, “printing playoff tickets” just means programming a few more dates into your ticketing software and pressing “Enter.” Most tickets today are either printed on demand as they’re sold (like movie tickets) or are e-tickets (i.e., you make the purchase online and they mail you a PDF that YOU print out, instead of them printing it out). So the whole notion of “Whoa, watch out, we’re printing postseason tickets!” is meaningless.[/quote]
    **********
    exactly……just like last year when my wife and picked up the playoff tickets for the Rockies (which oddly enough was the last Friday of the regular season, the game against AZ that they lost, putting them 2 games back in the wild-card with 2 games to go). We never actually thought they’d be used at all, but still, it was so neat to see World Series tickets. We were pretty much planning on just using/framing the tickets. We never thought the Rockies were actually going to make it!

    [quote comment=”291643″][quote comment=”291639″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.[/quote]

    It used to be a big deal when a team got permission from the league office to print postseason tickets. It was more of a big deal then, because the tickets were printed by an local offset operation not housed in the stadium, the physical tickets had to be distributed to various outlets where they were sold, etc.

    But today, “printing playoff tickets” just means programming a few more dates into your ticketing software and pressing “Enter.” Most tickets today are either printed on demand as they’re sold (like movie tickets) or are e-tickets (i.e., you make the purchase online and they mail you a PDF that YOU print out, instead of them printing it out). So the whole notion of “Whoa, watch out, we’re printing postseason tickets!” is meaningless.[/quote]

    For last year’s ALCS the Indians made you print off the pdf. Having kept every ticket stub of every game I have attended, I was rather bummed. However, I printed mine on cardstock and have it framed and hanging on the wall.

    [quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[quote comment=”291645″][quote comment=”291644″][quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]Prince’s underwear looks more like Pull-Ups to me. “I’m a big kid now!” Not something I need to see this early in the morning. Pleeeeeeeeease, Mets, don’t blow it! I don’t want to have to see those untucking slobs in the playoffs.[/quote]

    No kidding. If those are compression shorts, they certainly are not doing their job very well.[/quote]

    And explain to me how, sentiment and “honoring your heritage” aside, untucking doesn’t look like crap?[/quote]

    So, because you don’t like it, you want an explanation other than the completely valid, logical one that’s been presented over and over?

    We get it, you’re a Cubs fan and you hate the Brewers. Be done with it.[/quote]

    gotta agree with nicole (and chance & johnny o) here…

    lets not do the ‘why do the brewers untuck’ today…please

    we all agree we hate the look and it’s sloppy…but there is a reason for it, whether you like it or not

    k? thanks[/quote]

    If you hate the look and it’s sloppy, how can you justify the reason? At what point do you just say, “wow, that looks like shit, no matter what the reason is”? That point would be the picture posted previously.

    I don’t hate the Brewers. Why should I? They’re completely harmless. I don’t, however, like watching slobs play baseball, regardless of the team.

    [quote comment=”291644″][quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]
    We get it, you’re a Cubs fan and you hate the Brewers. Be done with it.[/quote]

    Oh, geez, could you be more melodramatic? It’s been my experience that there are no more loyal fans than those in the GB/Milw. region. However, they also tend believe that they have a monopoly on the most charming customs and traditions in sport and some seem to expect the rest of us to love them too.

    I know this will spawn “you a**hole” comments but this “our celebrations (untucks & leaps), our ballparks (brats & tailgates), our uniforms (dog paw logo, green & gold) are sooooo cool” get to be a little much sometimes.

    /rant

    [quote comment=”291653″][quote comment=”291644″][quote comment=”291597″][quote comment=”291593″][quote comment=”291592″]
    We get it, you’re a Cubs fan and you hate the Brewers. Be done with it.[/quote]

    Oh, geez, could you be more melodramatic?

    It’s been my experience that there are no more loyal fans than those in the GB/Milw. region. However, they also tend believe that they have a monopoly on the most charming customs and traditions in sport and some seem to expect the rest of us to love them too.

    I know this will spawn “you a**hole” comments but this “our celebrations (untucks & leaps), our ballparks (brats & tailgates), our uniforms (dog paw logo, green & gold) are sooooo cool” get to be a little much sometimes.

    /rant[/quote]

    Sorry Paul, I posted just after your request. And for the record, it was not about the “tuck” per se

    As for the shoulder logos, my high school does the link.

    At least they use blue and white, which are the school colors… the basketball team doesn’t, their aways are red, and it agitates me to no end. BLUE. WHITE. No red, that’s cliche.

    Those ‘CAC’ Canadiens jerseys with the mulitple rouge, blanc et bleu stripe and bowstring are making me salivate.

    “Mr. Alex said he had some news relating to this recent Ticker item about Nike breaking out a new look for Oregon at some point this season.”

    The worst get even worse. What can they possibly come up with that won’t be more atrocious than the crap they wear now? Nike has turned that program into the biggest joke in college sports.

    [quote]If you hate the look and it’s sloppy, how can you justify the reason? At what point do you just say, “wow, that looks like shit, no matter what the reason is”? That point would be the picture posted previously.

    I don’t hate the Brewers. Why should I? They’re completely harmless. I don’t, however, like watching slobs play baseball, regardless of the team.[/quote]

    considering “my” team is neck and neck with the crew for the last playoff spot, i have no love for them either right now…but i do for their fans, who have obviously a lot emotionally wrapped up in their success…can you please link? and “your” team better return the ‘we have the top spot locked up but we’re not gonna give away any games’ favor when you hook up with the crew this weekend…you seem to enjoy miller park

    btw…nothing would make me happier than to see link next week, so long as the amazin’s are playin

    [quote comment=”291639″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.[/quote]

    All of the teams have to do so well in advance of the potential series. I still have my Texas Rangers World Series tickets from ’96, and maybe ’98 and ’99 as well. So far, they are not exactly collectors items.

    [quote comment=”291658″]”Mr. Alex said he had some news relating to this recent Ticker item about Nike breaking out a new look for Oregon at some point this season.”

    The worst get even worse. What can they possibly come up with that won’t be more atrocious than the crap they wear now? Nike has turned that program into the biggest joke in college sports.[/quote]

    Aesthetically. Not on the field though. It’s revived a program once mired in mediocrity. In two sports.

    [quote comment=”291643″][quote comment=”291639″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.[/quote]

    It used to be a big deal when a team got permission from the league office to print postseason tickets. It was more of a big deal then, because the tickets were printed by an local offset operation not housed in the stadium, the physical tickets had to be distributed to various outlets where they were sold, etc.

    But today, “printing playoff tickets” just means programming a few more dates into your ticketing software and pressing “Enter.” Most tickets today are either printed on demand as they’re sold (like movie tickets) or are e-tickets (i.e., you make the purchase online and they mail you a PDF that YOU print out, instead of them printing it out). So the whole notion of “Whoa, watch out, we’re printing postseason tickets!” is meaningless.[/quote]

    Just to expand on this, in 1974 the ticket designs became standardized for both LCS and WS and were printed by H.S. Crocker Inc. in San Francisco regardless of club. This was the case at least through 1985.

    Depending how you obtain them, you can still get “traditional” tix with artwork. link

    [quote comment=”291642″]as you all (better) know… the nfl has changed it’s logo

    link (good image to save for future reference, y’all)…

    but link in the 1960’s…

    as to the new logo…the new shield features eight stars (representing the eight AFC and NFC divisions) vs. 25 on the current logo.[/quote]

    I think this idea that there are 8 stars to represent the 8 divisions is a bit of neat reverse engineering. My guess is that the designers thought “8 stars look best” and then they came up with the divisions as the explanation. If 10 stars had looked better, they would have said “10 stars to represent the 10 founding franchises” or whatever.

    Regardless, the update is nice.

    [quote comment=”291664″][quote comment=”291643″][quote comment=”291639″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.[/quote]

    It used to be a big deal when a team got permission from the league office to print postseason tickets. It was more of a big deal then, because the tickets were printed by an local offset operation not housed in the stadium, the physical tickets had to be distributed to various outlets where they were sold, etc.

    But today, “printing playoff tickets” just means programming a few more dates into your ticketing software and pressing “Enter.” Most tickets today are either printed on demand as they’re sold (like movie tickets) or are e-tickets (i.e., you make the purchase online and they mail you a PDF that YOU print out, instead of them printing it out). So the whole notion of “Whoa, watch out, we’re printing postseason tickets!” is meaningless.[/quote]

    Just to expand on this, in 1974 the ticket designs became standardized for both LCS and WS and were printed by H.S. Crocker Inc. in San Francisco regardless of club. This was the case at least through 1985.

    Depending how you obtain them, you can still get “traditional” tix with artwork. link

    1974 was also the year MLB took over printing the series program.

    Paul:

    In terms of being screwed on the Mets game, the White Sox had that situation this year. Two games got rained out, and on one of them the fans did not get tickets for a make-up game this year.

    The White Sox gave them the right to exchange for certain 2009 games.

    if i’m manager, i tell pitching coach who i want. he calls bullpen as i saunter to mound. no arm waving necessary.

    [quote comment=”291623″][quote comment=”291620″]If a rumor that is relayed from Phil Knight to some guys dad to said some guy to you is too tenuous of a link, why report it at all? And if that’s enough of a lead to necessitate a blog post, why go on about how it’s not a very good lead?[/quote]

    Because it’s fun. And because it raises the issue of a one-piece football uniform, which I think is something we’ll be seeing sooner or not-so-later.[/quote]

    I can see someone trying it but I just can’t see it being practical. Pulling a jersey over shoulder pads (while you are wearing them)is a pretty difficult thing to do, especially if you have stubby little gator arms like myself. I just can’t imagine the manpower it would take to squeeze a lineman into a unitard while wearing pads.

    [quote comment=”291668″]if i’m manager, i tell pitching coach who i want. he calls bullpen as i saunter to mound. no arm waving necessary.[/quote]
    And in a perfect world, pitcher rides to mound in bullpen car.

    How would you possibly put on a one-piece football uniform. Normally, you “step into” a leotard (right?). But that wouldn’t work with football because of the shoulder pads. Would there be a zipper of some sort?

    [quote comment=”291672″]How would you possibly put on a one-piece football uniform. Normally, you “step into” a leotard (right?). But that wouldn’t work with football because of the shoulder pads. Would there be a zipper of some sort?[/quote]

    i would imagine the rocket scientists in beaverton have come up with some uni that is so stretchy that zippers are not needed…lets just hope there are no link
    in such a scenario

    paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…

    how do you think such a feat would be pulled off

    /btw…great mothership article…i’ve been following those damn coolstandings for about a month now, and i hear ya…they drive me fucking nuts as well…glad to hear the explanation from horses mouth

    [quote comment=”291673″][quote comment=”291672″]How would you possibly put on a one-piece football uniform. Normally, you “step into” a leotard (right?). But that wouldn’t work with football because of the shoulder pads. Would there be a zipper of some sort?[/quote]

    i would imagine the rocket scientists in beaverton have come up with some uni that is so stretchy that zippers are not needed…lets just hope there are no link
    in such a scenario

    paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…

    how do you think such a feat would be pulled off

    /btw…great mothership article…i’ve been following those damn coolstandings for about a month now, and i hear ya…they drive me fucking nuts as well…glad to hear the explanation from horses mouth[/quote]

    I’m assuming that the thigh and hip pads would go into a compression short type of thing rather than in the pants!

    link

    Along those lines, perhaps the Shoulder pads will be built into a similar system, like this:

    link

    [quote comment=”291674″][quote comment=”291673″][quote comment=”291672″]How would you possibly put on a one-piece football uniform. Normally, you “step into” a leotard (right?). But that wouldn’t work with football because of the shoulder pads. Would there be a zipper of some sort?[/quote]

    i would imagine the rocket scientists in beaverton have come up with some uni that is so stretchy that zippers are not needed…lets just hope there are no link
    in such a scenario

    paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…

    how do you think such a feat would be pulled off

    /btw…great mothership article…i’ve been following those damn coolstandings for about a month now, and i hear ya…they drive me fucking nuts as well…glad to hear the explanation from horses mouth[/quote]

    I’m assuming that the thigh and hip pads would go into a compression short type of thing rather than in the pants!

    link

    Along those lines, perhaps the Shoulder pads will be built into a similar system, like this:

    link
    They make something called a ‘Jr. Rib Combo’?

    Now I’m hungry…

    [quote comment=”291676″][quote comment=”291674″][quote comment=”291673″][quote comment=”291672″]How would you possibly put on a one-piece football uniform. Normally, you “step into” a leotard (right?). But that wouldn’t work with football because of the shoulder pads. Would there be a zipper of some sort?[/quote]

    i would imagine the rocket scientists in beaverton have come up with some uni that is so stretchy that zippers are not needed…lets just hope there are no link
    in such a scenario

    paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…

    how do you think such a feat would be pulled off

    /btw…great mothership article…i’ve been following those damn coolstandings for about a month now, and i hear ya…they drive me fucking nuts as well…glad to hear the explanation from horses mouth[/quote]

    I’m assuming that the thigh and hip pads would go into a compression short type of thing rather than in the pants!

    link

    Along those lines, perhaps the Shoulder pads will be built into a similar system, like this:

    link
    They make something called a ‘Jr. Rib Combo’?

    Now I’m hungry…[/quote]

    All kidding aside, Stuby, I had Lunch Duty last period and the lunchladies told me that tomorrow is their most dreaded day of the year…RIBS DAY!

    Strangely enough, they’ve had hamburgers, sloppy joes, tacos, and nachos already this week!

    Is that what you call a progression?

    Really wish the new Twins’ corporate sponsor had gone with “Target Coliseum” to mirror the ‘TC’ logo.

    Ah, missed opportunities …

    [quote comment=”291615″](Skip Caray and Pete Van Wieren) were talking about a Braves trip to Cincinnati in the mid 90’s and had some Skyline Chili in the club house before the game. They said that Terry Pendelton hit a ground ball to the infield, got thrown out at first, and continued to run into the dougout and straight into the clubhouse. They said since then Bobby Cox has forbid Skyline Chili in the clubehouse.[/quote]

    we used to go for skyline chili once a week here at work. i never thought to keep a spare set of pants (or at least boxers) at the office. that decision came back to haunt me one afternoon. let’s just say the boxers… well… they didn’t make it home that day.

    [quote comment=”291678″][quote comment=”291676″][quote comment=”291674″][quote comment=”291673″][quote comment=”291672″]How would you possibly put on a one-piece football uniform. Normally, you “step into” a leotard (right?). But that wouldn’t work with football because of the shoulder pads. Would there be a zipper of some sort?[/quote]

    i would imagine the rocket scientists in beaverton have come up with some uni that is so stretchy that zippers are not needed…lets just hope there are no link
    in such a scenario

    paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…

    how do you think such a feat would be pulled off

    /btw…great mothership article…i’ve been following those damn coolstandings for about a month now, and i hear ya…they drive me fucking nuts as well…glad to hear the explanation from horses mouth[/quote]

    I’m assuming that the thigh and hip pads would go into a compression short type of thing rather than in the pants!

    link

    Along those lines, perhaps the Shoulder pads will be built into a similar system, like this:

    link
    They make something called a ‘Jr. Rib Combo’?

    Now I’m hungry…[/quote]

    All kidding aside, Stuby, I had Lunch Duty last period and the lunchladies told me that tomorrow is their most dreaded day of the year…RIBS DAY!

    Strangely enough, they’ve had hamburgers, sloppy joes, tacos, and nachos already this week!

    Is that what you call a progression?[/quote]
    Wow, that’s quite the lineup of entrees! Is it real ribs or, like, a processed McRib patty?

    [quote comment=”291683″][quote comment=”291678″][quote comment=”291676″][quote comment=”291674″][quote comment=”291673″][quote comment=”291672″]How would you possibly put on a one-piece football uniform. Normally, you “step into” a leotard (right?). But that wouldn’t work with football because of the shoulder pads. Would there be a zipper of some sort?[/quote]

    i would imagine the rocket scientists in beaverton have come up with some uni that is so stretchy that zippers are not needed…lets just hope there are no link
    in such a scenario

    paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…

    how do you think such a feat would be pulled off

    /btw…great mothership article…i’ve been following those damn coolstandings for about a month now, and i hear ya…they drive me fucking nuts as well…glad to hear the explanation from horses mouth[/quote]

    I’m assuming that the thigh and hip pads would go into a compression short type of thing rather than in the pants!

    link

    Along those lines, perhaps the Shoulder pads will be built into a similar system, like this:

    link
    They make something called a ‘Jr. Rib Combo’?

    Now I’m hungry…[/quote]

    All kidding aside, Stuby, I had Lunch Duty last period and the lunchladies told me that tomorrow is their most dreaded day of the year…RIBS DAY!

    Strangely enough, they’ve had hamburgers, sloppy joes, tacos, and nachos already this week!

    Is that what you call a progression?[/quote]
    Wow, that’s quite the lineup of entrees! Is it real ribs or, like, a processed McRib patty?[/quote]

    ground-beef watch…McRib…AWESOME!!!

    oh, and the boxers…way TMI!!!!

    [quote comment=”291680″]we used to go for skyline chili once a week here at work. i never thought to keep a spare set of pants (or at least boxers) at the office. that decision came back to haunt me one afternoon. let’s just say the boxers… well… they didn’t make it home that day.[/quote]
    :: Tiger fist pump ::

    Great story, Marc…

    [quote comment=”291630″][quote comment=”291624″]Since Paul is (planning on) going to Shea tonight, the game and tomorrow’s could get both get rained out. Tonight’s game may never get re-scheduled if it is unnecessary for the division/wild card and tomorrow’s cannot be a day-night doubleheader on saturday because the Mets have used the allotted day/night allowances per union contract. This could cause the team to lose $30 million in revenue.

    Or, Sunday’s last regular season game at Shea could be followed up with a regular season game on Monday and/or one-game playoff games that are technically regular season games[/quote]

    Coupla things:

    1) The Mets players can waive the union rule by team vote if they so choose. So a day/nite DH is not out of the question.

    2) If today’s game is rained out, they’ll tentatively reschedule it for Monday, subject to whether it will affect the playoffs. I suspect they will announce that tickets for tonight’s game will be good for the Monday make-up game and will NOT be exchangeable for tickets to any of the Fri/Sat/Sun games with the Marlins (at least one of those games is sold out anyway). So if tonight’s game is rained out AND the Monday make-up game ends up being unnecessary and therefore isn’t played, do I get a refund on my tickets? Or am I just fucked? This is basically a variation on the “What happens to your raincheck if the last game of the season is rained out?” question. What’s the answer?[/quote]

    No refund.

    But any ticket holders who did not get to utilize their tickets will get a tryout with Dan Warthen Tuesday morning in the bullpen, in hopes of finding someone to hold a lead or tie in the late innings.

    ground-beef watch…McRib…AWESOME!!!

    oh, and the boxers…way TMI!!!!

    Actually, I partially rescind my former comment!

    Yes, TMI however sage advice from someone who’s been there!

    I am going to stachs an extra “ensemble” in my Office from this point forward!

    Thank you!

    Just to chime in on the postseason ticket thing: yes, I receive my Mets playoff tickets (including World Series) last night 20 minutes before first pitch. If you can’t find the gut-wrenching irony in that, I don’t know what else to say.

    [quote comment=”291690″][quote comment=”291673″]paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…[/quote]

    Tomorrow.[/quote]

    o rly?

    im intrigued now…

    I guess I am too, but I honestly can’t see how a one piece football uni would look good OR function that well either….

    As far as those compression shorts go, I worked for Toolshed USA in the summer of 2001 in Huntington Beach, CA. My best friend and I did their shipping and we frequently shipped to guys like Mark McGwire and Jason Giambi. I say that to say that we shipped Giambi a giant gold thong with a Toolshed waistband sewed on it one week while he was still with the A’s in 2001 one while they were playing my Halos @ then Edison Field. I saw a mention of that this year in regards to his slump when he started his magnificent mustache. There was a picture from ESPN the magazine from 2001 with the thong hanging in his locker. They do make some cool products.
    Z
    Pics to follow later.

    It shows how clueless Brett is as everybody tries to get away from him as he tells his story. You’d think he was a friend of Rush Limbaugh’s. (Oh, wait, he is!) But, truth be told, this is a story I wish I’d never heard. My brain won’t unleash it. In this case, definitely TMI. Quick, some Lysol for my head.

    [quote]There was a picture from ESPN the magazine from 2001 with the thong hanging in his locker…
    Pics to follow later.[/quote]

    that’s not necessary, but thanks

    [quote comment=”291693″]I guess I am too, but I honestly can’t see how a one piece football uni would look good OR function that well either….[/quote]

    I don’t see it either…I mean besides the fact it would look absolutely ridiculous…i can’t imagine it would be held together with anything but a zipper and what happens if a player gets hurt? are they going to have to undo his uni? and the only thing i can think that is a comparison is this:
    link

    [quote comment=”291680″][quote comment=”291615″](Skip Caray and Pete Van Wieren) were talking about a Braves trip to Cincinnati in the mid 90’s and had some Skyline Chili in the club house before the game. They said that Terry Pendelton hit a ground ball to the infield, got thrown out at first, and continued to run into the dougout and straight into the clubhouse. They said since then Bobby Cox has forbid Skyline Chili in the clubehouse.[/quote]

    we used to go for skyline chili once a week here at work. i never thought to keep a spare set of pants (or at least boxers) at the office. that decision came back to haunt me one afternoon. let’s just say the boxers… well… they didn’t make it home that day.[/quote]

    As a rule, I hope Giambi never ate chili while in a slump!

    [quote comment=”291700″]Aesthetically speaking, the 1986 Braves were possibly the ugliest team ever assembled.

    link

    physically speaking…

    they’re not much better…yeeeesh

    [quote comment=”291639″][quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    All of the playoff teams have their World Series tickets printed. Happened probably about two weeks ago. I’d be willing to bet there are Mets and Brewers tickets out there, too.[/quote]

    Yep… just got mine in the mail today. Not that it looks like I’m going to be using them, mind you, considering how the Amazin’s have been stinkin’ up the joint lately……

    [quote comment=”291701″][quote comment=”291700″]Aesthetically speaking, the 1986 Braves were possibly the ugliest team ever assembled.

    link

    physically speaking…

    they’re not much better…yeeeesh[/quote]
    Any team with Zane Smith and Rick Mahler is behind the 8-ball to begin with.

    thoughts on why manuel might look so panicky is because he wants to make the decision to change pitchers – and not blow up his starters shoulders/elbows, careers, etc. by overuse – before he changes his mind. i imagine all of us would be jumpy if we had to manage that pitching staff – minus johan.

    [quote comment=”291705″]thoughts on why manuel might look so panicky is because he wants to make the decision to change pitchers – and not blow up his starters shoulders/elbows, careers, etc. by overuse – before he changes his mind.[/quote]

    Hmm. So, I suppose he and Dusty Baker aren’t buddies.

    [quote comment=”291692″][quote comment=”291690″][quote comment=”291673″]paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…[/quote]

    Tomorrow.[/quote]

    o rly?

    im intrigued now…[/quote]

    Don’t be. I misunderstood your question (been a crazy day — plumber tearing out my bathroom wall, etc.). So let me clarify: I am NOT suggesting that a one-piece football uniforms will be apparing tomorrow. Nor do I know when such a uniform might debut. I just think it’s gotta be in the pipeline.

    [quote comment=”291669″]Today’s ESPN non-uni article is up:
    link

    i think its neat how coolstandings are basically a normal standing on espn now. I love watching the percentages go up and down as the season goes on.

    [quote comment=”291707″][quote comment=”291692″][quote comment=”291690″][quote comment=”291673″]paul…you mentioned you thought we’d see a one piece sooner rather than later…[/quote]

    Tomorrow.[/quote]

    o rly?

    im intrigued now…[/quote]

    Don’t be. I misunderstood your question (been a crazy day — plumber tearing out my bathroom wall, etc.). So let me clarify: I am NOT suggesting that a one-piece football uniforms will be apparing tomorrow. Nor do I know when such a uniform might debut. I just think it’s gotta be in the pipeline.[/quote]

    well im still intrigued…just less so than i was a few hours ago…thinkin’ you were all privy to insider info and all…

    btw…i expect there’ll be bball at shea tonight…but checking the latest radar soundings an official game may only be 4.5 innings ;)…can petey give ‘us’ 5 good innings???

    and…of almost equal importance…will the porthole be open or closed?

    [quote comment=”291635″][quote comment=\”291632\”]
    … Also, Cubbies were wearing their postseason sweatshirts already the other night …[/quote]

    The Cubs have printed their World Series Tickets already too …[/quote]

    I am sure that if you look on ebay, you can find some 2003 World Series tickets too.

    link|66%3A2|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

    [quote comment=”291712″]Why do the Cubs NL Central caps look like this:
    link

    And all the other division champ hats look like this:
    link
    link

    Cause they are the Cubs?

    [quote comment=”291587″]NC State will be upset if Oregon beats them to the punch on football unitards.[/quote]

    Christ Corchiani and Rodney Monroe will be furious!

    Anyone remember way back when the QMJHL announced they would be returning a franchise to Montreal, and they link? I believe Paul had the jerseys in a ticker.

    Well, the Montreal Juniors, as they are officially called, lost their first game in Montreal to their rival Quebec Remparts 3-2 a couple of days ago.

    While I’m sure the hockey is great, the Montreal Juniors? Is that the best they could come up with?

    WORD OF CAUTION…Do not turn on the USC-Oregon State game without eye protection. The Beavs have some the most bright orange jerseys I have ever seen on.

    [quote comment=”291716″]blue caps and snow whites tonite…cubs “b” lineup…and a link

    …oh billy billy billy….this is a big one billy[/quote]

    Phil, bet you thought giving Derek Lee the night off was a GOOD thing.

    Highway flaggers and deer hunters don”t have orange that bright. Due to the font, skinny black, wide white trim or brillant orange, the “1” on OSU’s running back, Rogers, disappears when he’s running.

    [quote comment=”291722″]thank you link![/quote]

    Don’t know jack about cars, but I think I’ve wrecked a couple of thoses. Nice going, but is there something about playing 3B in NY that makes them disappear after the 7th?

    [quote comment=”291722″]thank you link![/quote]

    Congrats on the victory tonight LI Phil… I think it was the Caddyshack reference that brought you good luck :)

    [quote comment=”291724″][quote comment=”291722″]thank you link![/quote]

    Congrats on the victory tonight LI Phil… I think it was the Caddyshack reference that brought you good luck :)[/quote]

    thanks johnny o (and larry)

    …don’t tie games in the 9th kill you?

    /here’s a tip for tomorrow: don’t pitch to hoffpauirPOWER…thank god he was on first in the 9th tho

    [quote comment=”291722″]thank you link![/quote]

    After tonight, would Charlie be dumb enough to put them in black this weekend? Come to think of it, I haven’t hear any discussion of what they might were Sunday. Seems to me there is only one option.

    [quote comment=”291726″][quote comment=”291722″]thank you link![/quote]

    After tonight, would Charlie be dumb enough to put them in black this weekend? Come to think of it, I haven’t hear any discussion of what they might were Sunday. Seems to me there is only one option.[/quote]

    for the DH?

    pins for pelf (or whomever)/snow whites for johan

    [quote comment=”291727″][quote comment=”291726″][quote comment=”291722″]thank you link![/quote]

    After tonight, would Charlie be dumb enough to put them in black this weekend? Come to think of it, I haven’t hear any discussion of what they might were Sunday. Seems to me there is only one option.[/quote]

    for the DH?

    pins for pelf (or whomever)/snow whites for johan[/quote]

    Not sure I follow, you guy playing 163 this year?

    [quote comment=”291729″][quote comment=”291728″]Not sure I follow, you guy playing 163 this year?[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    Well, OK, so what happens? Day/night? Wouldn’t that make the make-up the last game. In any case, do you thing a big good-by party will help or hurt?

    Here’s and idea, let’s fly the teams to Milwaukee and fill the place with Brewers fans!!!

    [quote comment=”291732″]…how’s about a national sweep[/quote]

    I know you weren’t askin’ me, Phil but NO. Got to be loyal to the paycheck, ya know!

    [quote comment=”291732″]congrats johnny o!

    /now THATs how to end a game…do you have any fingernails left?
    //3 game season now…how’s about a national sweep[/quote]

    Winner, winner… chicken dinner!

    Sloppy and gorgeous at the same time!
    link

    Brewers sweep the Cubbies, Nats destroy the Phils, and the Mets net the Fish for three games… that would be awesome!

    And no, I do not have any fingernails left.

    P.S. Braun’s abs remind me of my own. Except mine are the true 6-pack abs! I’m a golf pro… what do you expect?

    [quote comment=”291735″]larry…you work for the phils?[/quote]

    Yeah, down here for their A & Rookie clubs. Nice bunch of folks, too. Honestly, I don’t have any strong feeling for the team itself but it’s obviously a big deal for a lot of people I work with.

    Check out what Yovani Gallardo of the Brewers wears when he pitches… You can see it a little with his uni on, but it doesn’t look that big…

    link

    [quote comment=”291738″]Check out what Yovani Gallardo of the Brewers wears when he pitches… You can see it a little with his uni on, but it doesn’t look that big…

    link

    And this is in his locker: link ;-)

    [quote comment=”291739″]Phil-
    Let me ask you something. Do you have any of the MLB.com services (Radio or TV)?[/quote]

    sadly…i do not…im not a radio-guy, can’t do the computer thing at work and i have cable…which doesn’t OFFER the extra innings package (or if they do, it’s almost like PPV)…no sunday ticket either…fuckers

    couple years ago i almost got the xm radio dealio, but balked

    …f the phils…go crew & twinkies!

    [quote comment=”291740″][quote comment=”291738″]Check out what Yovani Gallardo of the Brewers wears when he pitches… You can see it a little with his uni on, but it doesn’t look that big…

    link

    And this is in his locker: link ;-)[/quote]

    you know…he might think about taking jesus christ as his savior instead of fooling around with all this stuff

    [quote comment=”291741″][quote comment=”291739″]Phil-
    Let me ask you something. Do you have any of the MLB.com services (Radio or TV)?[/quote]

    sadly…i do not…im not a radio-guy, can’t do the computer thing at work and i have cable…which doesn’t OFFER the extra innings package (or if they do, it’s almost like PPV)…no sunday ticket either…fuckers

    couple years ago i almost got the xm radio dealio, but balked

    …f the phils…go crew & twinkies![/quote]

    You have any problem posting an email add? If not, can I get from Paul?

    The AP got a good photo of Braunie rounding 3rd this evening… Minna, this one is for you. And also congrats on your Twinkies winning tonight.

    link

    [quote comment=”291745″]The AP got a good photo of Braunie rounding 3rd this evening… Minna, this one is for you. And also congrats on your Twinkies winning tonight.

    link

    And here are a few more for good measure:

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”291745″]The AP got a good photo of Braunie rounding 3rd this evening….

    link

    Oh for cripes sake! I can’t wait for tomorrow!

    Ryan Braun, Braunie, or Brauny… They call him that sometimes on TV, and Uecker has called him that too, so I;m not the only one.

    He is also sometimes known as the Hebrew Hammer.

    So, The Onion has a humorous link about the Mets. I guess they could go the superhero route too. At least there’s no black.

    [quote comment=”291753″]So, The Onion has a humorous link about the Mets. I guess they could go the superhero route too. At least there’s no black.[/quote]

    Good Post! So funny, I sent that to about 6 people yesterday and forgot about the UNI board.

    I am figuring out how to link so this is a test:

    Finally got to Paul’s article on Shea. I found it very entertaining, showing the quirky side instead of the usual claptrap. Shea and I were born two week apart and even thought I never saw fit to route for the home team, most of the time, I enjoyed the many trips across the W-Stone.

    Couple thing specifically caught my eye.
    This photo
    in particular.
    ● It’s not only from the first game of the miracle season but it is the first game in Montreal Expos history.
    ● Wondering why the flag is at half-staff the first week of 1969?
    ● Interesting pairing of “Meet The Comer” next to the “10 Minute Head” advertisement. Subliminally related?
    ● Also, it reminded me of one thing that I hated about Shea for years. On the out-of-town scoreboard, the Mets didn’t list the pitchers uniform numbers but a 1 through whatever numerical coding that could only be cracked by purchasing a program. Always thought that was lame and at some point so did the Mets.

    Paul stated that “Shea was the first stadium specifically designed for dual-sport use”. Maybe semantics, but technically wouldn’t D.C. Stadium would have that designation? It opened in 1961 (for the Skins, ’62 for baseball). Perhaps the patent for the Shea design was slightly different than the system used in D.C. Stadium as they configured differently, but DC definitely had the movable stands that configured for football & baseball.


    This
    shot of the excavation reminded me of how bad the playing surface was for most of the early years. Always heard it was because of where it was built, very marshy. So much so that Yanks’ outfielder Elliott Maddox knee injury resulted in this: link I couldn’t find any research to support Maddox’s three years on the Mets payroll as a form of settlement ;-)

    Finally, Paul failed to mention that Shea (named for William Shea) bore a remarkable resemblance to Che Stadium (named for Cuban guerrilla leader Che Guevara), site of the Pre-Fab Four’s first American concert!

    Fort Wayne team
    becomes TinCaps
    FORT WAYNE – When Parkview Field opens next season, Fort Wayne’s Midwest League baseball team will take the diamond with the name TinCaps it was announced Thursday.
    The TinCaps moniker is a reference to the beloved pioneer Johnny Appleseed, who was known for wearing his tin cooking pot upon his head. The primary logo will be an apple wearing Johnny’s trademark Tin Cap.

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