It’s Impolite To Stare

Don’t know if this was touched on yesterday. Sandra Richards compression sock came down to her ankle during her 400 mtr final

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Heard a commentator over here (Ireland) state that this could have bothered her during the race. And she started losing speed just after that happened, coincidence?

The Beat headphones were a gift to the entire “Redeam Team” from LeBron James prior to the Olympics

south africa has a lot of these:

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HAPPY B-DAY to your son!!!

“south africa has a lot of these:

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…but actually it was a scooter accident. glad to see she’s still out there though!!!

[quote comment=”285387″]Don’t know if this was touched on yesterday. Sandra Richards compression sock came down to her ankle during her 400 mtr final

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Heard a commentator over here (Ireland) state that this could have bothered her during the race. And she started losing speed just after that happened, coincidence?[/quote]

She did complain of cramping in the post-race interview but the announcers didn’t seem convinced it wasn’t just her coming off the blocks too fast and running out of gas.

[quote comment=”285383″]why is the int’l three-point line on the WKU court?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure all of NCAA men’s basketball is moving to that 3 point line this year.

I don’t get it. Can someone explain what a link has to do with hilltoppers? or is that a scarf that you wear on top of the hill because it’s chilly? that sounds an awful lot like that Greek guy trying to say “kimono” is a Greek word.

you know, looking at the new link, I gotta say, as bad as the football unis are, I actually don’t mind most of the rest of it. And, probably because I am a die-hard Tech fan, but the gold top/white bottom combo on the football uni is actually OK (still not digging the white ones, though). I think that horizontal chest stripe needs to go, and I wish they would have used regular stripes on the pants instead of those funky ones, but not too bad overall. I love the return to Old Gold.

I still don’t get the pink for the lady’s hoops, but whatever.

~E~

even link on coach diddle and the red towel don’t ‘splain how it relates to a hilltopper…but i guess that’s the point…it doesnt

Aside from the awful stripes under the arm pits, the USA Men’s basketball jerseys are really starting to grow on me. I actually kind of like them. At least the white ones. Anyone else feel the same way? Or am I the only one here?

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With all the talk and technology breakthroughs with the LZR swim suits, how come track and field seems so out of touch? In a sport where speed is key and wins can come by hundredths of seconds, I have never seen so much stuff. Between the safety pinned on paper numbers which seem to act like parachutes on their backs, the long necklaces that bang in their faces, the Nike billboards on their arms and legs (I mean compression sleeves), it seems like all that stuff would slow them down. Any extra weight would be detrimental to their speed let alone at least distracting to them when they run.

I know the shoes and uniforms have gotten lighter and better, but that doesn’t help much when you are weighing yourself down with all this extra stuff. If you have to tuck your extra long necklace into your sports bra strap, maybe you should just take it off. I’m not seeing a lot of common sense among these athletes. You would think the coaches or their Olympic committees would restrict such extraneous items, but I guess fashion comes first.

[quote comment=”285397″][quote comment=”285396″][quote comment=”285383″]why is the int’l three-point line on the WKU court?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure all of NCAA men’s basketball is moving to that 3 point line this year.[/quote]

correct…on may 3, 2007, the NCAA men’s basketball rules committee passed a measure to extend the distance of the men’s three-point line a foot back to 20’9″…effective for the 2008-09 season

i think the women’s line is staying the same (like 19’9″)…so that’ll be interesting[/quote]
Wow, I totally missed that. I know int’l lines have been used in the past in exhibitions but since that was a new floor I thought it stood out a little.

That’s a great move if you ask me. NCAA basketball, although far superior to the pro game in my eyes, has lost a lot of luster because of the gimme that the three-point line has become.

South African swimmers missing limbs?
Must be something in the water…

[quote comment=”285409″][quote comment=”285404″]Aside from the awful stripes under the arm pits, the USA Men’s basketball jerseys are really starting to grow on me. I actually kind of like them. At least the white ones. Anyone else feel the same way? Or am I the only one here?

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i think there’s some kind of new dictum on UW….if you can’t say something snarky about nike, don’t say anything at all…to wit…a comment beneath yours sums up this anti-swoosh mentality:

[quote]Nike billboards on their arms and legs (I mean compression sleeves)[/quote]

see…that’s how you have to approach anything nike makes…it cannot possibly benefit the athlete, but is merely ad space[/quote]

My comment was defiantly not meant to bash Nike at all. I don’t like everything Nike does, i.e. the “chicken pox” baseball shirts and “ram horn” basketball uni’s… but there are some things I like, i.e. the SOD and most of their shoes.

I was just pointing out one thing I didn’t like about the USA uni’s. To be honest, there are rare times where someone can’t pick out one thing wrong with a uni, no uni is perfect… well except these of course (but, I am very biased) :

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Very true, and on the same point, what does a red version of McDonald’s Grimace have to do with “Hilltoppers?”

[quote comment=”285402″]even link on coach diddle and the red towel don’t ‘splain how it relates to a hilltopper…but i guess that’s the point…it doesnt[/quote]

It was just a joke. Calm down LI Phil. Instead of trying to start another boring argument like the ones that have been going on the last couple of days, how about make an intelligent response to the point of my original post? I just happened to notice while watching Sanya Richards last night that everyone in the world is trying for less clothing and she has more accessories than Paris Hilton. I guess it didn’t help her much because she ran out of gas at the end of the race and watched everyone pass her by.

I like the USA bb uniforms, especially the tribal print on the back! Very cool! And the team slogan “United We Rise” is, to me, very inspiring.
Oh, and PS, I generally love Nike. I was very depressed to learn that my Hoosiers resigned with Adidas for another 8 years.

[quote comment=”285410″]South African swimmers missing limbs?
Must be something in the water…[/quote]

I’ve done that in South Africa. Unspeakably cool.

But who knew? I could have become an Olympian….

PRESS RELEASE FROM THE NEW ORLEANS HORNETS:
Please note that today’s logo and uniform launch at Tipitina’s (French Quarter) at 2 p.m. central will be broadcast on Hornets.com in a live stream. Tune in to be the first to see the updated logos and new uniforms modeled by Hornets forwards Morris Peterson and Julian Wright. Each of the updated designs was inspired by the New Orleans culture, architecture and future and marks an exciting new chapter for the Hornets organization!

[quote comment=”285412″][quote comment=”285409″][quote comment=”285404″]Aside from the awful stripes under the arm pits, the USA Men’s basketball jerseys are really starting to grow on me. I actually kind of like them. At least the white ones. Anyone else feel the same way? Or am I the only one here?

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i think there’s some kind of new dictum on UW….if you can’t say something snarky about nike, don’t say anything at all…to wit…a comment beneath yours sums up this anti-swoosh mentality:

[quote]Nike billboards on their arms and legs (I mean compression sleeves)[/quote]

see…that’s how you have to approach anything nike makes…it cannot possibly benefit the athlete, but is merely ad space[/quote]

My comment was defiantly not meant to bash Nike at all. I don’t like everything Nike does, i.e. the “chicken pox” baseball shirts and “ram horn” basketball uni’s… but there are some things I like, i.e. the SOD and most of their shoes.

I was just pointing out one thing I didn’t like about the USA uni’s. To be honest, there are rare times where someone can’t pick out one thing wrong with a uni, no uni is perfect… well except these of course (but, I am very biased) :

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I think Nike did a GREAT job on the Team USA design. They are modern, but nothing stands out like crazy on the jersey. The tribal thing is kinda funky on the back, but it is subtle enough to where most people dont even realize its there. At least Nike did a better job than Champion did link

If the IOC has a ban on national sports federation emblems on Olympic team uniforms, how did the 1992 Dream Team get away with link? (aside from being super-mega-awesome, of course…)

Also, has anyone noticed that the star-and-ball logo on the Redeem Team’s link is from the link? Does this count as a violation as well?

[quote comment=”285422″]PRESS RELEASE FROM THE NEW ORLEANS HORNETS:
Please note that today’s logo and uniform launch at Tipitina’s (French Quarter) at 2 p.m. central will be broadcast on Hornets.com in a live stream. Tune in to be the first to see the updated logos and new uniforms modeled by Hornets forwards Morris Peterson and Julian Wright. Each of the updated designs was inspired by the New Orleans culture, architecture and future and marks an exciting new chapter for the Hornets organization![/quote]

So we’ll see a better version and not the bad Flash trace that’s been floating around. Good.

Still wish that they had just adopted the Fleur de Bee.

[quote] did appreciate Bryan actually engaging in a dialogue with me (even though I could have done without the smartass “I don’t need to convince anybody – least of all, you.” comment, but whatever, I’m a big boy I can take it). Not that Paul doesn’t do this but can have a tendency to shut the debate down quicker.

Also Bryan deserves some respect for the “Playing Nice” comment yesterday. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned or noticed that in yesterday’s comments.

Great job while Paul’s been out, despite my normal complaints this is still the best blog out there.[/quote]

i agree…bryan has being doing a stellar job

despite calling me “a-hole” on monday…but i know it’s all in good fun, and i’ve certainly been called worse

/happy b-day to yer boy, bry!

[quote comment=”285427″]What? Phil, I had no idea I’m losing the battle. [sarcasm]

That Johnny Poontang fellow, who probably was a troll since we haven’t seen the name since, made some valid points (although I wouldn’t have worded some of them too strongly). Especially since I did appreciate Bryan actually engaging in a dialogue with me (even though I could have done without the smartass “I don’t need to convince anybody – least of all, you.” comment, but whatever, I’m a big boy I can take it). Not that Paul doesn’t do this but can have a tendency to shut the debate down quicker.

Also Bryan deserves some respect for the “Playing Nice” comment yesterday. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned or noticed that in yesterday’s comments.

Great job while Paul’s been out, despite my normal complaints this is still the best blog out there.[/quote]

Oh I can assure you Johnny Poontang is not a troll. As I had stated earlier, I love this site and find it to be an amazing fountain of information.

Boston Globe article on athlete from Bahrain:

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[quote comment=”285431″]In the ticker item on the L.A. Kings possible new logo, there’s also reference to an Edmonton Oilers’ 30th anniversary logo

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“30 years of Oilers Hockey” “Est 1979”

Am I missing something here? They were established in 1972 in the WHA. I know when they joined the NHL they were technically considered expansion franchises but this is just strange.

I know the Winnipeg Jets always referred to their founding in 1972 (including the patch they wore in their final season with all three logos).[/quote]

Oilers disavowing any affiliation with the WHA? Just gonna claim NHL status from the beginning?

Well, what the hell, revisionist history seems to be okay in regard to everything else in world, guess it’s harmless as far that organization wanting to ignore its own reality.

Knowing the original ownership group’s way of looking at things, it doesn’t surprise me.

The Princeton game photo is against Rutgers at the late, great Palmer Stadium, circa 1972-73 – I was at the game both years. Rutgers played the Tigers in the first game of the season at the bigger stadium in Princeton from 1954-75 (the 1969 “Centennial Game” was played at Rutgers), and often times in the late 60’s and early ’70’s wore its home red jerseys while Princeton wore its traditional black. However, in 1974 Princeton wore white at home against RU wearing red, one of the few times ever in school history. The teams stopped playing in 1980.

[quote]Bryan mentioned the NFL “completely whored itself out to Reebok” and there is no Reebok-bashing uproar[/quote]

and who owns reebok?

i’ll leave the nfl & nhl uni bashing to others [i think teebz likes the new NHL duds tho :o)]…

you’re perhaps right about the “volvo effect” as it pertains to nike, but it just SEEMS (there’s that word again) that, due to the blog owner’s vitriol for the mark of the beast, readers love to jump on the anti-swoosh bandwagon…i know 3 stripes/rbk get their due trashing, but it often comes at the hands of the UW community, rather than the owner…

when nike is bashed, however, it always seems that there is a certain tacit approval of it from the higher ups…and that no nike-basher will go punished for his transgressions, whereas anyone who gives due grief to mr. lukas for his disdain for the greek goddess of victory, we are told to settle down…

i know i know…it’s his blog…i can see the red x…if i don’t like it i can post elsewhere…purple and nike are bad…purple and nike are bad…purple and nike are bad…

[quote comment=”285440″][quote]Bryan mentioned the NFL “completely whored itself out to Reebok” and there is no Reebok-bashing uproar[/quote]

and who owns reebok?

i’ll leave the nfl & nhl uni bashing to others [i think teebz likes the new NHL duds tho :o)]…

you’re perhaps right about the “volvo effect” as it pertains to nike, but it just SEEMS (there’s that word again) that, due to the blog owner’s vitriol for the mark of the beast, readers love to jump on the anti-swoosh bandwagon…i know 3 stripes/rbk get their due trashing, but it often comes at the hands of the UW community, rather than the owner…

when nike is bashed, however, it always seems that there is a certain tacit approval of it from the higher ups…and that no nike-basher will go punished for his transgressions, whereas anyone who gives due grief to mr. lukas for his disdain for the greek goddess of victory, we are told to settle down…

i know i know…it’s his blog…i can see the red x…if i don’t like it i can post elsewhere…purple and nike are bad…purple and nike are bad…purple and nike are bad…[/quote]

Lets not get all crazy now. Purple is bad.

“Here’s an approximation (read: replica, at least) of what the new Adidas-tagged Michigan hockey jerseys will look like, with thanks to Craig Barker.”

Ugh. This means they’re now part of the “City (and now school) Name at Home and Team Name on the Road Club,” joining the Dallas Stars and San Jose Earthquakes (and partial member Vancouver Canucks). This is a trend that needs to be stopped.

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and who owns reebok?

i’ll leave the nfl & nhl uni bashing to others [i think teebz likes the new NHL duds tho :o)]…
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I’m not a fan of the new Rbk uniforms, and believe that they should return to CCM’s uniform styles. “6% less drag” is nothing to redesign the wheel over. Some look respectable, but why change just for the sake of change?

I do, however, have a serious problem with the added “design” elements that Nike introduced that CCM copied that Reebok bought and continues to use.

And that’s where the problem lies. Nike is a trailblazer when it comes to innovation. I have absolutely no complaints with the majority of their products, but I do have a problem with their branding of everything they have a fingerprint on. And since they started the trend, the other manufacturers have to follow suit in order to retain their share of the market.

The whole thing is a dog-eat-dog industry where one company tries to one-up everyone else until the product is placed on the back-burner to corporate identity. As for finger pointing and blame-gaming, I know it isn’t solely Nike’s doing, but they are the biggest dog in the yard when it comes to this sort of non-subtle subliminal advertising of their own brand.

I haven’t picked up the last few editions of Madden, but since when did Reebok’s logo start getting plastered all over the cleats? I remember the shoes just used to be generic…

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why hasn’t this site(writers, not fans) done a little report on the new Timberwolves unis? Is Paul waiting until every NBA has introduced their new duds for this upcoming season?

Also, is there any rhyme or reason to Japan’s “galaxy” uniform?

[quote]Assuming for a second that you are absolutely right, and Nike is unfairly bashed, abused and slandered on this board.[/quote]

i don’t have to assume…it is

[quote]Seriously, who gives a shit? Nike sure doesn’t, so why the hell should you?[/quote]

it’s not like im here trying to defend nike, im simply trying to point out the (a)hypocrisy of those who SOLELY bash nike when there are plenty of other uni-makers who are equally as “bad” in their branding (not uni-styles…that’s another point altogether), if not worse and (b) it gets tiresome when not only is there an anti-swoosh comment in the main article or ticker…but that’s ok…it’s paul’s board, and if he gets off on that, it’s his prerogative…it’s (as johnny poontang so eloquently pointed out the other day):

[quote]The other one who also posts in a baby-shit colored box, Paul Lukas, would have told you you were wrong then told you to pipe down and ordered you to stop talking about it any further.

Then shortly after that his followers would have been forced to pull themselves away from weaning on his teat long enough to tell you that this is Paul’s website and he can say and do whatever he wants.[/quote]

well said johnny…

it bothers me when the minions parrot paul’s anti-nike stance for no other apparent reason than because they must feel it’s fun to dis nike

[quote]Were talking about uniforms here, which is like half a step below practice. Please try to save your moral outrage for something else.[/quote]

practice? we’re talkin’ practice…not a game…practice

i’ll save my moral outrage for the actual UNIFORM nike puts out, rather than bitching about a tiny logo (which IMHO is permissible, since they made the goddam thing) somewhere on that uniform…k?

[quote comment=”285439″]This is obviously fake, but it is kind of an interesting look.

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Why is it a fake?

[quote comment=”285453″][quote comment=”285437″][quote comment=”285431″]In the ticker item on the L.A. Kings possible new logo, there’s also reference to an Edmonton Oilers’ 30th anniversary logo

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“30 years of Oilers Hockey” “Est 1979”

Am I missing something here? They were established in 1972 in the WHA. I know when they joined the NHL they were technically considered expansion franchises but this is just strange.

I know the Winnipeg Jets always referred to their founding in 1972 (including the patch they wore in their final season with all three logos).[/quote]

In 1972, the Oilers were established as the Alberta Oilers, not the Edmonton Oilers. Because they changed their designation, they technically didn’t exist in the WHA until 1973.

It’s the same for the New Jersey Devils. They don’t include the times they were the Kansas City Scouts or Colorado Rockies in banner years. The Dallas Stars don’t include their time in Minnesota in their banner years either.

It’s all a pile of technicalities, but the devil is in the details.[/quote]

They’ve always been in Edmonton, though, and always been the Oilers. Wouldn’t that be a bit like the Angels deciding to claim they have existed only since they used the name “Anaheim” somewhere in their name…and therefore don’t have to admit they were a lowly expansion team in 1961? Or were once owned by some “movie cowboy”?

I mean, it is what is…isn’t it?[/quote]

I agree – it’s a bit odd and they’ve always used 78/79 as the base year – Chris Creamer has the 10th and 25th Anniversary patches here:

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And here’s the Jet’s 10th Anniversary which makes way more sense:

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Remembering thinking at the time that those Princeton unis were a really great combination of old school (meaning the jerseys) with the contemporary look of the time. Only the body of the road jerseys was white, sleeves remained fully black with orange stripes.

Good recipe: Take one highly recognizable vintage element and weave it into a uni suitable for the present era.

Come to think of it, still haven’t seen a better one. Not in football.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”285451″][quote comment=”285442″]Lets not get all crazy now. Purple is bad.[/quote]

That’s your opinion, which you’re certainly entitled to. Some of us don’t quite have the aversion to purple as you and your messiah.[/quote]

Yes it is my opinion, and it was also a joke. Now why don’t you lay off the prick juice for a minute and not assume I bow down to everything the writier of the blog says. I just happen to agree that purple is an ugly color, that ok with you, or do you need to add in an extra attempts to seem “holier than thou”? Seriously, who kicked your dog? Why are you so hell bent on attacking everyone here?

[quote]Second, the NFL has completely whored itself out to Reebok, which we knew, but perhaps not to that extent.[/quote]

Is there a link missing in there?

[quote comment=”285460″][quote comment=”285451″][quote comment=”285442″]Lets not get all crazy now. Purple is bad.[/quote]

That’s your opinion, which you’re certainly entitled to. Some of us don’t quite have the aversion to purple as you and your messiah.[/quote]

Yes it is my opinion, and it was also a joke. Now why don’t you lay off the prick juice for a minute and not assume I bow down to everything the writier of the blog says. I just happen to agree that purple is an ugly color, that ok with you, or do you need to add in an extra attempts to seem “holier than thou”? Seriously, who kicked your dog? Why are you so hell bent on attacking everyone here?[/quote]

“Why don’t you lay off the prick juice”? “Who kicked your dog”? And I’m “hell bent” on attacking people?

And it’s OK if you think that purple is an ugly color. Whether it’s OK with me is irrelevant. Again, that’s your opinion, which you’re certainly entitled to. And again, some of us don’t quite have the aversion to purple as you and your messiah.

[quote comment=”285461″][quote comment=”285454″][quote comment=”285439″]This is obviously fake, but it is kind of an interesting look.

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Why is it a fake?[/quote]

[a] MLB jerseys have NEVER had a manufacturer’s logo at the base of the neck. They started putting the MLB logo there in 2000, I think.

[b] Bucs didn’t adopt the vests until 2001; Van Slyke was long retired by that point.

[c] The number font may be wrong as well:

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It looks like the number font is wrong for 1990, but not for 2001. I really liked that “Pittsburgh” pullover, I’m not sure if I like this vest better than the current one though.

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They’ve always been in Edmonton, though, and always been the Oilers. Wouldn’t that be a bit like the Angels deciding to claim they have existed only since they used the name “Anaheim” somewhere in their name…and therefore don’t have to admit they were a lowly expansion team in 1961? Or were once owned by some “movie cowboy”?

I mean, it is what is…isn’t it?[/quote]

Considering the history they had in the WHA, perhaps they just want to forget it ever happened? ;o)

Seriously, I can’t explain why they let go of their WHA history, but the Jets were the one team that everyone in Winnipeg loved. It might have been due to that Hull guy bringing respectability to the franchise, but the Jets were huge as a WHA team.

Secondly, the ownership group changed hands in the offseason between the 77-78 and 78-79 seasons. Nelson Skalbania sold the team to Peter Pocklington, and he carried the team into the NHL. Since the majority of anniversaries coincided with Pock’s purchase and move to the NHL after the WHA folded, it might be easier to carry on the timeline than to disrupt a pile of historical chronological landmarks.

Just another take on it, though.

[quote comment=”285466″][quote comment=”285461″][quote comment=”285454″][quote comment=”285439″]This is obviously fake, but it is kind of an interesting look.

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Why is it a fake?[/quote]

[a] MLB jerseys have NEVER had a manufacturer’s logo at the base of the neck. They started putting the MLB logo there in 2000, I think.

[b] Bucs didn’t adopt the vests until 2001; Van Slyke was long retired by that point.

[c] The number font may be wrong as well:

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It looks like the number font is wrong for 1990, but not for 2001. I really liked that “Pittsburgh” pullover, I’m not sure if I like this vest better than the current one though.[/quote]

Ugh…the bid is already for that, is there anything you can do to warn them? That is not an authentic jersey, and somebody is paying a premium for it like it is.

[quote comment=”285466″][quote comment=”285461″][quote comment=”285454″][quote comment=”285439″]This is obviously fake, but it is kind of an interesting look.

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Why is it a fake?[/quote]

[a] MLB jerseys have NEVER had a manufacturer’s logo at the base of the neck. They started putting the MLB logo there in 2000, I think.

[b] Bucs didn’t adopt the vests until 2001; Van Slyke was long retired by that point.

[c] The number font may be wrong as well:

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It looks like the number font is wrong for 1990, but not for 2001. I really liked that “Pittsburgh” pullover, I’m not sure if I like this vest better than the current one though.[/quote]
thanks

[quote comment=”285400″]you know, looking at the new link, I gotta say, as bad as the football unis are, I actually don’t mind most of the rest of it. And, probably because I am a die-hard Tech fan, but the gold top/white bottom combo on the football uni is actually OK (still not digging the white ones, though). I think that horizontal chest stripe needs to go, and I wish they would have used regular stripes on the pants instead of those funky ones, but not too bad overall. I love the return to Old Gold.

I still don’t get the pink for the lady’s hoops, but whatever.

~E~[/quote]
It looks like the baseball unis are the same design as the LLWS USA teams are wearing.

“Michigan’s new replica Adidas sweaters”

As someone who has been very disappointed in the U-M nike replica sweater quality, these michigan adidas sweaters look pretty good, hell they even come with a ccha logo properly stitched in.

I’m interested to see if they’ll stick with Bauer as their equipment supplier now that Nike Bauer are separate.

[quote comment=”285419″]The yellow Michigan jersey with the New York Rangers-style diagonal lettering is awesome. I’d like to see that in blue, too.
Runoff[/quote]

U-M started wearing the diagonal lettering during the 2006-2007 year. I was very happy to see them can the “michigan” script. I do like those new whites though.

[quote comment=”285448″]I haven’t picked up the last few editions of Madden, but since when did Reebok’s logo start getting plastered all over the cleats? I remember the shoes just used to be generic…

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Pretty recently. I have Madden 06 and the shoes don’t have Reebok logos on them.

[quote comment=”285426″]If the IOC has a ban on national sports federation emblems on Olympic team uniforms, how did the 1992 Dream Team get away with link? (aside from being super-mega-awesome, of course…)
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Who’s the skinny guy between Mullin and Daly in the photo?

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Ugh…the bid is already for that, is there anything you can do to warn them? That is not an authentic jersey, and somebody is paying a premium for it like it is.[/quote]

Sadly. I don’t think these bidders would even care. Somehow, “sewn-on lettering” has become the new word for “authentic”. I could just imagine a conversation between the winning bidder and his Uniwatch-reading friend:

“Hey, I got this AUTHENTIC Andy Van Slyke jersey on eBay! Isn’t it sweet?”

“Dude, that’s not authentic. That Russell logo doesn’t belong on the neck, the Pirates didn’t wear vests when Slick played for them and the number font is wrong as well”.

“Yeah, but the letters are SEWN-ON, dude. That makes it authentic!”

“*Sigh*, dude, those letters are glued-on.”

“Listen, I… wait, what?”

I get it. Sort of when someone expresses a different opinion than the masses and someone jumps on with “this guy just doesn’t ‘get it'”.

I mean, if anything is an old joke, certainly that qualifies. And let me also point out that assailing someone who doesn’t agree with your opinion as “not ‘getting it'” is silly, boring and not productive as well.

The day you guys stop responding to contrary opinions with “he doesn’t ‘get it'” is the day that you guys stop getting called lemmings, a cult, etc. But seeing as how it’s not going to happen anytime soon, then I suppose we both just have to deal with it, hmmm?

Thanks for clearing that up, though.[/quote]

I get it. Sort of when someone expresses a different opinion than the masses and someone jumps on with “this guy just doesn’t ‘get it'”.

I mean, if anything is an old joke, certainly that qualifies. And let me also point out that assailing someone who doesn’t agree with your opinion as “not ‘getting it'” is silly, boring and not productive as well.

The day you guys stop responding to contrary opinions with “he doesn’t ‘get it'” is the day that you guys stop getting called lemmings, a cult, etc. But seeing as how it’s not going to happen anytime soon, then I suppose we both just have to deal with it, hmmm?

Thanks for clearing that up, though.[/quote]

LOL!! Amen. My thoughts exactly. In fact, I have been WARNED in a private email from the Messiah not to be critical of his beliefs or those of his followers.

anyone see the link patch being worn on the LLWS participants’ sleeves?
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i hope we can discuss some of the aspects of the LLWS some day…still not sure why it’s verboten

[quote comment=”285480″][quote comment=”285426″]If the IOC has a ban on national sports federation emblems on Olympic team uniforms, how did the 1992 Dream Team get away with link? (aside from being super-mega-awesome, of course…)
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#10? That’s Clyde Drexler. Behind him is #14 Charles Barkley.
Who’s the skinny guy between Mullin and Daly in the photo?[/quote]

[quote comment=”285489″][quote comment=”285466″][quote comment=”285461″][quote comment=”285454″][quote comment=”285439″]This is obviously fake, but it is kind of an interesting look.

link

Why is it a fake?[/quote]

[a] MLB jerseys have NEVER had a manufacturer’s logo at the base of the neck. They started putting the MLB logo there in 2000, I think.

[b] Bucs didn’t adopt the vests until 2001; Van Slyke was long retired by that point.

[c] The number font may be wrong as well:

link

It looks like the number font is wrong for 1990, but not for 2001. I really liked that “Pittsburgh” pullover, I’m not sure if I like this vest better than the current one though.[/quote]
I too liked that “Pittsburgh” pullover, and the buttons that followed. I have a Jim Leyland #10 and used to have the old starter dugout jacket based on it. I loved that jacket!

I sported the Leyland jersey at RFK the first time the Bucs played the Nats and got more comments on that jersey than on any other jersey I ever have worn (the Rams Namath was a close second)

In other jersey talk, I saw my first SATAN #81 Pens jersey during a Steelers’ pregame tailgate a few weeks back. Good looking jersey, but I don’t see him staying around for more than one season.[/quote]

Yeah when I look to get a new hockey jersey, I look for longevity of the player. Always wonder if some people regret their jersey selections sometimes.

I’ve seen a guy around Joe Louis Arena (Red Wings home ice) with a Bertuzzi Red Wings jersey. Always wanted to ask him how he felt about that. See a random Clark (Wendel Clark) Wings jersey too every now and then.

[quote comment=”285455″]http://i256.photobuc…

Always thought that was a better treatment of tiger stripes on helmet than the Bengals’. Well, other than it looks a little like a Bugle (that’s a snack food; I say that cuz I’m pretty sure no one here is familiar with junk food, LOL).

Hmmm…both teams in dark jerseys (Harvard being the opposition). Obviously a game that wasn’t televised. Good for them, Harvard and Princeton have a long traditon of playing each other or something, don’t they?

(rolls eyes)

Ooops, self correction here. Not Harvard. Only one stripe on helmet, no white centerstripe pants. Don’t know who it is.

Penn, maybe? Or Brown? Anyone?

My friend actualli lettered in 1971 and 1972.

According to the Helmet Project:

link…

The only Ivy league team it could have been was Cornell.

However, here are the schedules and results for those two years:

1971
Coach: Jake McCandless
Captain: Robert Wolfe
Overall: 4-5; Ivy: 3-4
RUTGERS L 18-33
Columbia L 20-22
Cornell L 8-19
COLGATE W 35-12
PENNSYLVANIA W 31-0
BROWN W 49-21
Harvard W 21-10
YALE L 6-10
DARTMOUTH L 7-33

1972
Coach: Jake McCandless
Captain: Michael L. Kincaid
Overall: 3-5-1; Ivy: 2-4-1
RUTGERS W 7-6
COLUMBIA T 0-0
Dartmouth L 14-35
COLGATE L 26-35
Pennsylvania L 10-15
BROWN W 31-10
HARVARD W 10-7
Yale L 7-31
CORNELL L 15-22

What team was Princeton playing?

Please see my Post #54. One correction it is circa 1971-72 as opposed to 72-73.[/quote]

1. Sorry for not reading a few posts befor mine!
2. Great First-Hand info, Brad…that is some coincidence…the player was Larry Chollet.
3. After looking thorugh the Helmet Project, I concluded that it could only be Cornell, Colgate, or Rutgers!

[quote comment=”285486″]anyone see the link patch being worn on the LLWS participants’ sleeves?
(link)
Notice how the i in “I Won’t Cheat” is in lowercase, while the rest in ALL CAPS? Wow. Brain trust over-thought that one. Is it a symbol of “I am not bigger than the game, thus I will not cheat it?” Or is it a sly ad for Steve Jobs’ iCompany, makers of iPods, iMacs, and iPhones?
i hope we can discuss some of the aspects of the LLWS some day…still not sure why it’s verboten[/quote]

[quote comment=”285494″][quote comment=”285486″]anyone see the link patch being worn on the LLWS participants’ sleeves?
(link)

i hope we can discuss some of the aspects of the LLWS some day…still not sure why it’s verboten[/quote][/quote]
Formatting error. I’ll try that again.
Notice how the i in “I Won’t Cheat” is in lowercase, while the rest in ALL CAPS? Wow. Brain trust over-thought that one. Is it a symbol of “I am not bigger than the game, thus I will not cheat it?” Or is it a sly ad for Steve Jobs’ iCompany, makers of iPods, iMacs, and iPhones?

In other jersey talk, I saw my first SATAN #81 Pens jersey during a Steelers’ pregame tailgate a few weeks back. Good looking jersey, but I don’t see him staying around for more than one season.

Yeah when I look to get a new hockey jersey, I look for longevity of the player. Always wonder if some people regret their jersey selections sometimes.

I don’t necessarily look for longevity of the player, but I look for certain “timeless historical relevance”. If there is something special about the jersey, it would be okay, even if the guy only played one year.

I have a 75th anniversary Steeler jersey that I like better than just a regular jersey for just that reason, I think it will hold up even if Troy Polamalu never plays another down for the Steelers. Although, I did make sure he signed a contract extension before I bought it.

There is just a morass of grey area, and a touch of risk, in jersey purchasing. IMO that’s part of the fun.

[quote comment=”285499″][quote comment=”285498″]In other jersey talk, I saw my first SATAN #81 Pens jersey during a Steelers’ pregame tailgate a few weeks back. Good looking jersey, but I don’t see him staying around for more than one season.

Yeah when I look to get a new hockey jersey, I look for longevity of the player. Always wonder if some people regret their jersey selections sometimes.

I don’t necessarily look for longevity of the player, but I look for certain “timeless historical relevance”. If there is something special about the jersey, it would be okay, even if the guy only played one year.

I have a 75th anniversary Steeler jersey that I like better than just a regular jersey for just that reason, I think it will hold up even if Troy Polamalu never plays another down for the Steelers. Although, I did make sure he signed a contract extension before I bought it.

There is just a morass of grey area, and a touch of risk, in jersey purchasing. IMO that’s part of the fun.[/quote]
Yeah, but they’re wearing that jersey, sans the 75th anniverary patch this year. But your point is well taken that Troy was around for that year that the jersey was worn.[/quote]

It’s just the road white Steeler jersey, not the black throwback. IMO the patch makes different it and just a little bit cooler.

[quote comment=”285497″][quote comment=”285495″][quote comment=”285480″][quote comment=”285426″]If the IOC has a ban on national sports federation emblems on Olympic team uniforms, how did the 1992 Dream Team get away with link? (aside from being super-mega-awesome, of course…)
[/quote]
I said, link.
Who’s the skinny guy between Mullin and Daly in the photo?[/quote]
Isn’t that Spud Webb?[/quote][/quote]

The “Not as Much as Usual” Round Mound of Rebound

[quote comment=”285475″]”Since the majority of anniversaries coincided with Pock’s purchase and move to the NHL after the WHA folded, it might be easier to carry on the timeline than to disrupt a pile of historical chronological landmarks.”

Speaking of technicalities, did the WHA fold and the Jets, Oilers, Nordiques and Whalers wander around looking for a place to go?

Always thought it was a “merger” in the sense the NBA-ABA merger involved a few teams in coming in and few being left by the wayside.

I just think it’s SO nouveau riche. “Oh, my, no, my parents didn’t live in a trailer until oil was discovered in our water well. I grew up in the Hampton’s.” wink-wink[/quote]

In terms of the merger, the NHL and WHA agreed to merge in early 1979. Under the terms of the agreement, the NHL decided that the four most-stable franchises would join the NHL: Edmonton, Hartford (New England), Winnipeg, and Quebec. Cincinnati and Birmingham were paid $1.5 million apiece. Under the conditions of the deal, the NHL would never recognize any WHA achievements as being legitimate pro hockey achievements (which would explain Edmonton’s resetting of the clock in their history).

Ironically, the NHL vote for the merger went down in a 12-for vs. 5-against vote. Boston voted against due to sharing their market with Hartford. Los Angeles and Vancouver voted against over fears of losing home dates against the eastern teams like Montreal, Boston, and the NYR. Montreal and Toronto voted against because their share of the Hockey Night In Canada money would now be split five ways instead of two. Harold Ballard of the Leafs also voted against the merge because of his hatred of the WHA. Several of the WHA teams signed players from the Leafs as they had grown tired of Ballard’s penny-pinching ways.

[quote comment=”285481″]Tends to beg the question, though – if you are so bothered by the basic premise of this site, why invest so much energy in it?[/quote]

I’m not bothered by the basic premise of this site. As a tool for uniform research and discussion, it’s invaluable. And I don’t “invest” anything into this site. If anything, I do my investing with money, not emotionally or energetically into a website.

What I commented on yesterday was how Bryan runs this site differently from Paul. He chooses to discuss matters, even those that he does not agree with or those that get off topic. The back-and-forth discussion yesterday ran its course without Bryan having to get pissy and tell people to drop it, that he was going to delete their posts, or that he was going to ban someone from posting. Yes, he got close to it, and may have impliedly threatened it, but in the end, everyone knew he was in control, said their piece and moved on. And, amazingly enough, the Uniwatch World didn’t end. For my troubles, I get called “blind”. For what? Even today I have no clue, because the poster decided to begin talking about Nike, which was something that I didn’t even allude to in my post. Hell, maybe that was the problem: The fact that I didn’t bash Nike in my post. In fact, I later pointed out that I totally agreed with the points he made in his post, but my post had nothing to do with Nike or what he was talking about.

Yes I “get it” (Jesus, now you people even have me saying it), it’s Paul’s website, it’s his own little slice of heaven, he runs the show, blah blah blah blah blah. On the other hand, I don’t know about you, but I don’t like having anyone, regardless of who it is, telling me to shut up and not discuss something because he doesn’t like the topic. That’s just me, that’s just my attitude, and it’s an attitude that has served me well, extremely well, throughout my entire life and career. You see an element in a little league uniform that you want to discuss? Bring it up! Oh wait a minute, Paul doesn’t want to talk about it. Paul thinks little leaguers are getting way too much coverage in the media. Paul has banned all little league talk on this forum. Are you serious? FUCK PAUL. Does this guy actually think a uniform discussion on an obscure blog is going to somehow aid in little leaguers over-exposure in the media? Does he think that someone asking what some patch on some kids’ uniform stands for is somehow perpetuating a deluge of media coverage on little leaguers? But sure enough, someone dared to ask a question early in the week and the response that came back was “Paul said we’re not allowed to discuss the LLWS”. You all do a far better job than anyone else can perpetuating the idea that you march in-step with Paul Lukas. What’s the worst thing that can happen? Your posts gets deleted? You get banned from posting for a couple of days? Granted, I realize that for some of you there is nothing more exciting in your lives than Uniwatchblog.com, but it’s not the end of the world. Not by a longshot.

Maybe some of you don’t like confrontation. Maybe some of you agree with everything that Paul says. Fine. Whatever floats your boat. But just because it’s his website doesn’t make it right. And it’s a credit to Bryan that he has chosen to do the opposite and let people say their piece instead of silence them. And then to actually apologize to someone for getting testy with them was just an all-around classy move, something that in my opinion we wouldn’t see Paul do.

And on that note, thank you Bryan for letting me say my piece. I expect the hateful, sarcastic and “witty” remarks to start shortly.

[quote comment=”285505″]quote comment=”285498″]In other jersey talk, I saw my first SATAN #81 Pens jersey during a Steelers’ pregame tailgate a few weeks back. Good looking jersey, but I don’t see him staying around for more than one season.

Yeah when I look to get a new hockey jersey, I look for longevity of the player. Always wonder if some people regret their jersey selections sometimes.

I don’t necessarily look for longevity of the player, but I look for certain “timeless historical relevance”. If there is something special about the jersey, it would be okay, even if the guy only played one year.

I have a 75th anniversary Steeler jersey that I like better than just a regular jersey for just that reason, I think it will hold up even if Troy Polamalu never plays another down for the Steelers. Although, I did make sure he signed a contract extension before I bought it.

There is just a morass of grey area, and a touch of risk, in jersey purchasing. IMO that’s part of the fun.[/quote]

That’s why I fly close to the coast. The classics never let you down. Bossy away, Nystrom home.

SB[/quote]

I have:

DET (white) Fedorov
MON (white) Lafleur (NNOB)
BOS (white 70’s era) Orr (NNOB)
CHI (red) Blank (will be Chelios)
TOR (white) Blank (will be Domi)
PIT (white, triangular penguin head logo) Lemieux
BUF (white, with black/red buffalo head logo)
UofM (yellow, or maize)

Want a North Stars and old school red and green NJ Devils…

[quote comment=”285422″] Each of the updated designs was inspired by the New Orleans culture, architecture and future and marks an exciting new chapter for the Hornets organization![/quote]

Does that mean there will be blurry aureolas in the motif?

Hornets Unveil New Logo, Colors, Uniforms

That’s the title of the article on the Hornet’s website. A little deceiving isn’t it. They didn’t really change anything, just tweaked it a little. The logo still looks like a children’s cartoon. I know its New Orleans and stuff, but the colors of teal, gold and purple is a little too much to handle. It would have been nice to see maybe a change to black and gold with a tiny accent of teal. It would look more like a hornet and still keep a link to the past and NO color.

[quote comment=”285515″]This used to be such a good place to visit. Seems like all these people woke up and somebody pee’d on their cornflakes and now they have to take it out on everybody else. I have had enough…done with visiting here.[/quote]

I thought there was something wrong with my cereal this morning, but I couldn’t identify what it was. ;o)

I don’t know why exactly Paul and/or uniwatchblog do not post items on the LLWLS, but my guess it is because they are Children! Imagine, when you were in little league, if everyone in the stands started gossiping about the positioning of your iron-on NOB and number and the mismatched stripes on your stirrups. Now multiply that by number of hits on this blog. That’s alot of pressure to be putting on these kids. Should they face any criticism because the parents, coaches, TV networks, sponsors, and/or major athletic manufacturers didn’t get it just right. Think about it.

I don’t necessarily look for longevity of the player, but I look for certain “timeless historical relevance”. If there is something special about the jersey, it would be okay, even if the guy only played one year.

That’s why I fly close to the coast. The classics never let you down. Bossy away, Nystrom home.

My collection, such as it is, is small, but I’m proud of it.

M&N Eagles 1960 Tommy McDonald (White)
M&N Cubs 1976 Bill Matlock (Powder blue, no stripes)
M&N (Upper Deck Yankees classic trade in) Yankees 1978 Sparky Lyle #28 (Grey)
M&N Steelers 1975/76 Rocky Blier (Black)
Reebok (Authentic) Steelers 2007 Troy Polamalu (white)
Majestic (authentic) Yankees 2008 #11 (Pinstripe)
Game worn Penn State 2006 #80 Blue
Game Worn Pirates 2006 Brain Cox (third base coach) Grey
Game Issue Pirates 2005 Paul Stewart (who the hell knows?) Alternate/black

Remembering thinking at the time that those Princeton unis were a really great combination of old school (meaning the jerseys) with the contemporary look of the time. Only the body of the road jerseys was white, sleeves remained fully black with orange stripes.

Good recipe: Take one highly recognizable vintage element and weave it into a uni suitable for the present era.

Come to think of it, still haven’t seen a better one. Not in football.

–Ricko

Ricko,

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I grew up in Princeton in the 1960’s and was a uniform nut, kept some notes, but no drawings. I did not miss a Princeton home football game from 1965-74 before going away to college. I always thought the Princeton road uniforms from that era were the best in the country.
Here’s a link to the road jersey before the aforementioned 1969 Centennial Game between Princeton and Rutgers:
link

Both teams wore the “100” decal on their helmets, and ironically, the 1969 helmet image is missing from the Princeton list at the great helmet project site linked here:
link

link

Players underwear gets coach kicked out

[quote comment=”285523″]

and WHEN i was in little league, 10,000 years ago…i damn sure wore my uniform properly, including stirrups and i only WISHED there was a site like UW…or the internet…or cable tv…or touchtone phones…or cds…anything besides 8 tracks and ditto machines…god i hated those

[/quote]

I miss the ditto machines. I tell you, there is no high quite like the high you get from huffing your social studies quiz.

link

[quote comment=”285531″]Has anybody ever watched a LLWS game and not thought to themself, “I think this may be just a little bit too much for a 12 year old”?

I can see not wanting to add to that pressure, although boycotting talking about their uniforms will bring about as much change as “Free Tibet” bumper sticker.[/quote]

Everytime I see it on ESPN I wonder why the hell is it on TV. It’s little leaguers, it’s like watching the best 12 year olds play youth basketball, doesn’t make sense to me.

[quote comment=”285531″]Has anybody ever watched a LLWS game and not thought to themself, “I think this may be just a little bit too much for a 12 year old”?[/quote]

link

[quote comment=”285514″]Hornets Unveil New Logo, Colors, Uniforms

That’s the title of the article on the Hornet’s website. A little deceiving isn’t it. They didn’t really change anything, just tweaked it a little. The logo still looks like a children’s cartoon. I know its New Orleans and stuff, but the colors of teal, gold and purple is a little too much to handle. It would have been nice to see maybe a change to black and gold with a tiny accent of teal. It would look more like a hornet and still keep a link to the past and NO color.[/quote]
Why black and gold? That color combination has no real significance in the city except for the Saints. If you want a REAL change that identifies the team with the city, why not changing the teal to green? Go back to link color combination that has a REAL connection with the city.

[quote comment=”285474″][quote comment=”285400″]you know, looking at the new link, I gotta say, as bad as the football unis are, I actually don’t mind most of the rest of it. And, probably because I am a die-hard Tech fan, but the gold top/white bottom combo on the football uni is actually OK (still not digging the white ones, though). I think that horizontal chest stripe needs to go, and I wish they would have used regular stripes on the pants instead of those funky ones, but not too bad overall. I love the return to Old Gold.

I still don’t get the pink for the lady’s hoops, but whatever.

~E~[/quote]
It looks like the baseball unis are the same design as the LLWS USA teams are wearing.[/quote]

Anyone else notice that the uniforms shown on the banner in the first slide (women’s basketball excepting) are not the ones modeled in the fashion show it advertises? The men’s basketball jersey looks like the set from the link, while the football top seems to follow a design from link in the decade (number font especially). Not sure about volleyball, but it’s definitely different from the one shown a few slides later.

[quote comment=”285537″]The response should have looked like this:

Why black and gold? That color combination has no real significance in the city except for the Saints. If you want a REAL change that identifies the team with the city, why not changing the teal to green? Go back to link color combination that has a link with the city.[/quote]

Agreed. They could at least bring out an throwback alt in that motif. It would certainly beat the current “Mardi Gras Gold” 3rd jerseys which, although it gives me occasion to break out my Jordan I’s in the yellow/black colorway, I could live without.

That said, the new home unis look really good, but I hate the road unis. I think it’s the white trim.

Welcome back, Paul! Not to hit you all at once, but what happening with the Google search and index functions? Any updates on that issue?

According to link, the Titans could have some interesting FNOB issues this year. Hell, with two Chris Davises on the roster, we may see the precedent-setting FNAIOB (First Name And Initial On Back).

I suppose it could be worse… at least their last name isn’t “Houshmandzadeh”

[quote comment=”285547″][quote comment=”285546″]According to link, the Titans could have some interesting FNOB issues this year. Hell, with two Chris Davises on the roster, we may see the precedent-setting FNAIOB (First Name And Initial On Back).

I suppose it could be worse… at least their last name isn’t “Houshmandzadeh”[/quote]

That site is wrong in some regards, but there are 2 Chris Davises, #’s 16 & 17:

link

link

they sure do look alike[/quote]

Wow. Way to go Virginia Tech. Get that crowed ramped up for the big game against…Furman. Whatever it takes to sell tickets though.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already, but last night during the Yankees-Jays game one of the Yankee ball boys was wearing a number 42 jersey. I wonder if the team lost his jersey and he wore a mariano rivera or what becausei dont think ball boys wear numbers at all

I was watching Men’s Beach Volleyball last night (kicking off the Late Night coverage as usual), and the US guys were playing a team from (the former Soviet Republic of) Georgia. The team itself was basically a couple of Brazilians who weren’t good enough to qualify from their homeland, so they became Georgian Citizens and kinda backdoored into the Olympics.

Now, I can’t remember the entire story of this, but the “Georgians” somehow came to enter the Olympic Games with the names Geor and Gia, meaning that their names shows up on the TV graphics as “Geor/Gia”.

[quote comment=”285540″]
Incidentally, when “Johnny Poontang” posts here, his fake e-mail address is link. Fun![/quote]

At least he took the time to spell your name right – Lukas vs. Lucas – on his faux email account. ;o)

re: LLWS (and this will be my only post on the subject).

No, never think they’re being abused or exploited. I always think, “Wow, what a high it must be for them to know their game is on ESPN.”

I would LOVE to coach a bunch of kids that excited about playing, that focussed.

Remember these aren’t the kids you’ll find on a Tuesday evening in your neighborhood. These are, in large part, the best of the best, not the end-of-bench, part-time rightfielder who hopes no one hits the ball to him in a close game. These kids are confident. They know they can play, and they have the record to prove it.

Of the really skilled kids I have coached, I believe every single one of them would think having a game on TV would be “cool”. Watch the ones interviewed on ESPN. Generally speaking, they don’t look scared or overwhelmed. A little nervous, maybe, sometimes tongue-tied…but they watch Baseball Tonight and SportsCenter. Most of them kinda know the drill.

And, yes, they’re only 12, some 13. But the pitcher holding back tears because he just allowed five straight hits isn’t feeling any worse because it’s happening on TV. He’d have reacted the same way in a district title game back in Billings or someplace.

As to whether they’re exploited…well, then so is every other amateur athlete whose competition is televised nationally.

Worried about striking out on TV? Well, most kids would say that’s better than never having been on TV at all. Besides, any decent player should have had a coach who taught him that anyone who plays baseball is gonna do three things for sure: strike out, make errors and get hit by a pitch. If you can’t accept those realities, then better not to play.

(Unless you’re Joe Mauer, of course, who struck out only once in his entire four-year high school career, and that was on a foul tip into the catcher’s glove.)

I have also found that, in the long run, parents take the losses harder than the kids. The kids seem to grasp that only one team is gonna win it all, and they can live with that.

And while it’s tough to watch a kid in agony after he messes up, give ESPN credit. They rarely stay with those images too long (and virtully NEVER replay them), instead focussing far more on the pure joy on the faces of the kids who have just made great defensive plays, delivered important hits or pitched beautifully.

I may be in the minority, but I love watching the LLWS every year, because its fun to see kids do something because they absolutely freakin’ LOVE it…even it means they take a third strike at the wrong time on national televison.

As to unis…I think the kids wear what they see the big guys wear on TV. Although there is a much greater mix of high and low pants in the regionals than after they get to Williamport, where low seems to be the order of things…and that’s too bad.

great story douggie…i’d like to hear paul’s answer

while my LL experience was far from traumatic (umpiring from 7th-12th grade was far more scarring…and why to this day i have the utmost respect for blue), i can see how the youth of today, where everyone wins a medal, could have a tough time…though i was quite skilled (was drafted into the major leagues in 4th grade–do they still have that designation any more???–and that first year i played my 2 innings in left field and got my one AB), i was good but not great, but was starting shortstop in 5th & 6th, making the AS team both years…was pretty competitive, and we failed to advance out of the first round each year (in large part because the coach, each year, insisted on starting his kid even though clearly not the best player/pitcher we had…but that’s another story)

anyhoo…our village had 2 leagues, and in the other league, as fate would have it, a LOT of the boys were younger…but because of their late-in-the-year birthdays, could play an “extra” year…they were REALLY good, and when we were all in 7th grade (they were still permitted to play in LL due to their birthdays), that team advanced all the way to county and i think states…so…

i’ve always followed and been fascinated by the LLWS (in fact, a guy i went to college with had a brother who played for link…i always thought it was the COOLEST thing, and wished i was on a team talanted enough to go somewhere…i never thought of the kids as exploited, and except for the dick managers who insisted their kid was better than anyone else, always found it fair and pure…we didn’t play for money, we played for love and pride…yeah, there was crying when we lost, but hey…that’s fuckin life…you learn more life-lessons on the diamond than playing atari/intellivision and now texting/updating your facebook page

never viewed anyone as being exploited, used as a pawn, or a piece of meat…but rather just ‘one of those things’ that hopefully taught a boy to become a man…ya know…in life there’s winners and losers…and you don’t wanna be a loser, but, shit, unless your name is eldrick, you learn that you lose more than you win…there may be crying in baseball, but not everyone gets a goddam ribbon

ok…so…to make this uni related, i know the unis are pretty standard, but i was hoping maybe one day the UW management could i donno…maybe devote a half page to it…

guess not

but i would love to hear whether paul maybe had a bad experience with LL away back when

Woops meant to post that comment on the last article.

[quote comment=”285561″]re: LLWS (and this will be my only post on the subject).

No, never think they’re being abused or exploited. I always think, “Wow, what a high it must be for them to know their game is on ESPN.”

I would LOVE to coach a bunch of kids that excited about playing, that focussed…[/quote]

See? Rational debate works like a charm. In my eyes, the hype surrounding the LLWS has seemed to have died down a bit the last couple years, thankfully. I know when I was 12, I couldn’t have handled being on ESPN very well. It would have freaked me out.
And, I kind of dug the plain brown Browns pants. I’m thankful there was no UPS logo on them, so I voted for them in that poll. Take that! But, I would be curious to see them with a stripe. Really, they should go back to the orange. Browns orange is the perfect shade of that color, in my opinion.

[quote comment=”285550″]Wow. Way to go Virginia Tech. Get that crowed ramped up for the big game against…Furman. Whatever it takes to sell tickets though.[/quote]
Considering tickets were sold out long before this was announced, I highly doubt that is the driving force here…

Perhaps it might have to do with wearing some totally kickass throwback uniforms on the field… (ones I hope turn into the full-time unis)

Photo of new Hawaii football unis link

[quote comment=\”285461\”][quote comment=\”285454\”][quote comment=\”285439\”]This is obviously fake, but it is kind of an interesting look.

link

Why is it a fake?[/quote]

[a] MLB jerseys have NEVER had a manufacturer\’s logo at the base of the neck. They started putting the MLB logo there in 2000, I think.

[b] Bucs didn\’t adopt the vests until 2001; Van Slyke was long retired by that point.

[c] The number font may be wrong as well:

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Actually, when the Reds had vests, the manufacturer\’s logo appeared at the base of the neck because there wasn\’t a sleeve to put it on, so this is probably the same idea.

Can\’t explain why it\’s a vest, though, since the Pirates didn\’t start wearing those until 2001. As stated, Van Slyke was retired as a player by then and the Detroit Tigers\’ web site says his current job with the Tigers is his first professional coaching gig. That eliminates a coaching stint as a reason for this jerey existing.

Unless this jersey was made for Van Slyke to wear for some kind of old-timer\’s game, it\’s not authentic.

Well, don’t know why my text didn’t copy over. but it is clearly a fake because the Pirates never used that “Pittsburgh” script on any jersey but their pinstriped roadies from the 90’s.

[quote comment=”285581″]From nba.com/hornets:

“The Hornets primary logo has been enhanced with the team’s new colors: Creole blue, a deeper, more passionate purple and Mardi Gras gold.”

Purple… passionate? Uh oh…[/quote]
Not only that, but “the Hornets are the only team to wear their home city at home and on the road.” Really, New York?

RE: Why black and gold?

I just thought it would look more like a hornet and less like a Disney character. They could use the “yellowish gold” rather than “gold gold”.