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Pretty cool old baseball photo here.

The catcher appears to be wearing shorts! And I doubt he plays for the 70s Era White Sox!

Except Putin’s jersey should read CCCP.

[quote]New NC State football unis here, courtesty of Clay Best, who doesn’t dig the wolf logo south of the collar. Agreed [/quote]

I like how the punter’s back is used. They get no respect!

Stripe-free brown pants? Ugh. All football pants that are not gold must have stripes. It is a simple rule and I insist that it be followed.

re: 1965 Gopher media guide.

Damn, I miss those unis. Always thought they should go back them. In those unis, was only times they ever went to Rose Bowl.

Instead, we get all-maroon and piping running helter skeleter.

Gee, nobody else does THAT. How original and distinctive.

[quote comment=\”284997\”]The baseball photo is probably the Hollywood Stars and the Los Angeles Angels back from the Pacific Coast League.[/quote]You can scratch the word \”probably\” from that. Those are definitely the Angels and Stars – the Stars wore those shorts between 1950 and 1953.

[quote comment=”285005″][quote comment=”285003″][quote comment=”285002″]Stripe-free brown pants? Ugh. All football pants that are not gold must have stripes. It is a simple rule and I insist that it be followed.[/quote]

Motion seconded.[/quote]

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…or perhaps, they should just not be brown[/quote]

With morbid curiosity I ask … does anyone have a picture of the solid brown pants Cleveland is going to wear?

I had an A’s pillbox hat just like that one when I was a kid. I bought it at a souvenir stand at Astroworld (RIP) in Houston back in the early 80s.

[quote comment=”285002″]Stripe-free brown pants? Ugh. All football pants that are not gold must have stripes. It is a simple rule and I insist that it be followed.[/quote]
Respectfully disagree. Colored pants generally should have no stripes. There’s generally too much striping in football uniforms these days. Some striping looks good — e.g., on the Giants’ pants — but generally it’s not needed. The Saints’ black pants look good.

[quote comment=”285012″][quote comment=”285002″]Stripe-free brown pants? Ugh. All football pants that are not gold must have stripes. It is a simple rule and I insist that it be followed.[/quote]
Respectfully disagree. Colored pants generally should have no stripes. There’s generally too much striping in football uniforms these days. Some striping looks good — e.g., on the Giants’ pants — but generally it’s not needed. The Saints’ black pants look good.[/quote]

[quote comment=”285009″]The USSR throwback made me do a google image search of russian uniforms, and i found this. link it is quite amazing[/quote]

Looks like they made the hat and collar out of old people hair…..

Maybe we could wait until tomorrow and we have ACTUALLY seen the pants before everyone everyone freaks out. I happen to think they will probably look good, but I’m reserving judgement until after the game tonight.

At least it’s not Brown pants with a brown shirt. Nothing looks worse in football than dark pants with dark jerseys.

So I had a moment over the weekend where I realized that I might read this site too much. I was watching Olympic coverage most of the weekend, trying not to freak out that the U.S unis in each sport had a different shade of blue, and sometimes gold (which I Really don’t understand), but the real kicker is when I flipped to the Lions/Bengals game to see how badly the Lions were getting their ass kicked when I noticed something. The Bengals’ NOBs, were really hard to read because the unis were so tight the top half of everyones’ names were folded down on top of the shoulder pads.

Best Pic I could find:
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I was sitting in my living room watching a sport that I really don’t care about, noticing a uni flaw that

a) I really shouldn’t even care about

b) Probably the only people who noticed this are reading this comment

and c) I couldn’t wait to get to work today to tell everyone.

Just funny how much more stuff I notice about unis even in a sport I don’t give a rat’s ass about.

I love this site.

That A’s hat looks to be from the same line I have from the early 80’s…the Twins company from Boston.

I have a pillbox hat collection…and Ive never seen the A’s one before…I can confirm Phillies and Pirates (of course), Astros, Braves, Twins, Padres, Dodgers and the Expos.

Could the A’s pillbox cap be from the All-Star game in Philadelphia in 1976?

[quote comment=”285018″]Maybe we could wait until tomorrow and we have ACTUALLY seen the pants before everyone everyone freaks out. I happen to think they will probably look good, but I’m reserving judgement until after the game tonight.[/quote]

What fun is that?

[quote comment=”285022″]”The Saints’ black pants look good”

they are horrible, and most of my fellow saints fans agree with me[/quote]

link are good black pants

link are not

until the aints match the golds, tho…might as well keep the stripes off the pants altogether

link…

but…

link for some NEW saints unis?

[quote comment=”285029″]Collin is right about the A’s hat. My great uncle had a clothing store in southern Iowa that sold that brand of pillbox style hats for each MLB team.[/quote]

Such fascination for a style hat that only one team (Pirates) wore for more than one season. In fact, weren’t the Cardinals the only other team that actually DID wear them on the field (other than for the ’76 ASG warmups)? And Cardinals even had the three stiped circles on their batting helmets, which one-ups the Pirates.

[quote comment=”285022″]”The Saints’ black pants look good”

they are horrible, and most of my fellow saints fans agree with me[/quote]

I agree, and it is good to receive confirmation from a Saints fan. The several Saints fans that I know here in Dallas are of the same mindset.

A team with such a loyal following deserves better than to try to dress like a 1989 Colorado squad.

[quote comment=”285001″][quote comment=”284998″]Except Putin’s jersey should read CCCP.[/quote]

Shouldn’t a CCCP or USSR throwback have this guy on it? Gorbachev was his name….

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Seeing Putin wasn’t Prime Minister of either, he was Prime Minsiter of Russia.[/quote]

That’s what I love about this site, the eye on details.

No, Gorbachev shouldn’t be on there. The point of the picture is that Putin is acting like the old Soviet Union. However, Putin is the Prime Minister now. The president is link. So, maybe his name should be on there since the president is the head of state.

[quote comment=”285032″][quote comment=”285018″]Maybe we could wait until tomorrow and we have ACTUALLY seen the pants before everyone everyone freaks out. I happen to think they will probably look good, but I’m reserving judgement until after the game tonight.[/quote]

Yeah, but you like Oregon.

And if you crank up your anti-Penn State/Yankees broken record, you’re done for the day.[/quote]
I have to admit, I’m with Marty on this one. Sounds terrible in theory but I’ll wait to see. Besides, it will give me the ONLY reason I’ll tune into this game tonight on TV.

I thought the Texans in all red sound terrible and I’ll admit, while not my favorite uni by any stretch, it really wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be.

Anyone else find it ironic that a yellow box would call someone out on “broken record” issues? Let’s play a game: how many days can UW go without a Nike jab?!?!

[quote comment=”285038″][quote comment=”285001″][quote comment=”284998″]Except Putin’s jersey should read CCCP.[/quote]

Shouldn’t a CCCP or USSR throwback have this guy on it? Gorbachev was his name….

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Seeing Putin wasn’t Prime Minister of either, he was Prime Minsiter of Russia.[/quote]

That’s what I love about this site, the eye on details.

No, Gorbachev shouldn’t be on there. The point of the picture is that Putin is acting like the old Soviet Union. However, Putin is the Prime Minister now. The president is link. So, maybe his name should be on there since the president is the head of state.[/quote]

Ahh… see I don’t pay attention to foriegn or domestic polotics so I didn’t get the joke. My bad.

Egg on my face…

[quote comment=”285009″]The USSR throwback made me do a google image search of russian uniforms, and i found this. link it is quite amazing[/quote]

That’s what the new russian army uniforms are or were suppose to look like. It was in the NY Times a while back.

[quote comment=”285024″]That A’s hat looks to be from the same line I have from the early 80’s…the Twins company from Boston.

I have a pillbox hat collection…and Ive never seen the A’s one before…I can confirm Phillies and Pirates (of course), Astros, Braves, Twins, Padres, Dodgers and the Expos.[/quote]

All NL teams, of course. To celebrate the NL’s bicentennial. The Mets wore theirs in a couple games, from what I’ve read, but don’t know how many of the others actually saw the field.

FWIW, I love the style, and wish a team would adopt it today, even as an alt. I get a lot of mileage out of my link, though it is obviously a fashion cap and not a 1976 throwback.

[quote comment=”285037″][quote comment=”285017″]Last year’s Madden had the brown pants in Cleveland’s primary away uniform and they were never worn. This year they were removed from the game, and now they actually make use of them.[/quote]

And in Madden ’09 for the Wii, you can’t even see the uniform you’re selecting. It just says, “Home” or “Away” or “Alternative 5.”[/quote]

I have madden 09 for Wii and I thought it would be really cool… but I am a little disappointe; Can’t make your own player, no one is online, the controls are ok at best, and I can’t even see what my unis look like.

If I only had a 360.

In response to the picture of Brett Favre wearing Schutt AiR:

While at Southern Miss, he wore Schutt Air, with a non-traditional, skill-position type facemask, made popular by Eric Dickerson:

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He continued the trend while with Atlanta, both Schutt AiR and the “ED” mask!

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pulled from the Orange & Brown Report forum….

Brown pants, brown socks
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Brown pants, striped socks
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Of those 2…..which looks like a football player, and which looks like somone preparing for a dance recital?

On the A’s pillbox:

I have the Cleveland Indians version of that hat. It has the block C that the team wore from 78 to 84. I’m pretty sure the indians didn’t ever wear pillbox hats in 76 and the hat (adjustable) is more polyester than your average 70s hat. I’m guessing it was from the early 80s. Based on the block C, though, I’m almost positive it was manufactured in that 78 to 84 timeframe.

[quote comment=”285024″]That A’s hat looks to be from the same line I have from the early 80’s…the Twins company from Boston.

I have a pillbox hat collection…and Ive never seen the A’s one before…I can confirm Phillies and Pirates (of course), Astros, Braves, Twins, Padres, Dodgers and the Expos.[/quote]

You can add Boston to your list – my kid bro and I had ’em, purchased in late 70’s at Fenway – red with blue brim. I think they were just copying the Pirates’ pillboxes of the day, weren’t they? I might have a pic of our hats – I’ll check my shoebox.

The link says the Browns wore mostly white pants from 1946 to 1974. Mostly? What other color did they wear?

[quote comment=”285044″][quote comment=”285040″][quote comment=”285032″][quote comment=”285018″]Maybe we could wait until tomorrow and we have ACTUALLY seen the pants before everyone everyone freaks out. I happen to think they will probably look good, but I’m reserving judgement until after the game tonight.[/quote]

Yeah, but you like Oregon.

And if you crank up your anti-Penn State/Yankees broken record, you’re done for the day.[/quote]
I have to admit, I’m with Marty on this one. Sounds terrible in theory but I’ll wait to see. Besides, it will give me the ONLY reason I’ll tune into this game tonight on TV.

I thought the Texans in all red sound terrible and I’ll admit, while not my favorite uni by any stretch, it really wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be.

Anyone else find it ironic that a yellow box would call someone out on “broken record” issues? Let’s play a game: how many days can UW go without a Nike jab?!?![/quote]

Please. The box I comment in is tan. Get your monitor calibrated.

Regardless, if you had to choose one thing to identify Marty Met’s mindset, what would it be? Bitching about Penn State or the Yankees. Always.

Me, I bitch about everything. As for Nike … I’ll stop when they stop.[/quote]

Penn State, Yankees and……. NEW YORK RANGERS!

From the ticker, above: “Florida State is going with tackle twill numbers on its football jerseys this year, rather than screened-on numbers. Thanks to Tom Tollerton for the note.”

Why the change? And does this have any difference in the function of the jersey? It would seem to make it heavier, though it looks and feels better.

[quote comment=”285007″]That A’s cap has to be at least 30 years old….[/quote]
While the A’s apparently never wore those caps, it probably comes from the 1976 Bicentennial when the Pirates & Cardinals wore similar pillbox caps. It could be a souvenir. Regardless, it’s pretty cool.

Jeff-I’ll echo the question of “what do changing the color of pants have to do with anything?” I’m not exactly sure how you think changing pants colors are going to boost merch sales and I’m interested in your response. Look, there’s plenty of stuff to rag on the NFL about (don’t get me started on the utter ripoff that preseason is).

Ricko-you might have slightly misunderstood me, all I was saying about the all-red Texans is that I expected it to be really bad, an all-time level like those Indians 70s unis or perhaps something worn by Cuba! My point was with the person that basically said ‘let’s see ’em in action before we go all bananas’.

[quote]What did I say?[/quote]

i believe there was still some question as to whether they’d be sporting the white stripes versus the brown turd socks

and you, mr. redemske, link…that’s from last night’s ticker…post #36:

[quote comment=”284980″][quote comment=”284979″]Browns in brown pants?[/quote]

i, for one, welcome the brown pants…can’t wait until they make that into a monochrome unitard…believe me…it will happen

who gets dibs on the first “the browns look like shit” joke?[/quote]

from today’s main article:

[quote]So, while fans may think the Browns are playing like crap, here at Uni Watch we’ll be happy to say, “And they look like crap, too! Literally.”[/quote]

GRRRR…now fixed

[quote comment=”285064″]Can you even buy official NFL pants….[/quote]

Not on a retail level. Sometimes the teams have benefit auctions or someone who knows someone who knows someone from the organization sells them in an online auction (which is how I got my hands on a pair of Dolphins’ pants), but other than that……

NFL pants for sale:

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The Minnesota Timberwolves have unveiled their new uniforms: As you can see it says at Noon (Central, and I am posting at 11:40), so they did a great job hiding them on the day of.

Link:
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Not as bad as the original Love picture. But…eh, we’ll have to see them in Game Action.

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reduce the image, squint…

looks likes he’s playing sans pants.

In other words, look for a lot of doubletakes from folks channel surfing.

[quote comment=”285081″]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Chopper9/joshua-cribbs.jpg?t=1219013218

reduce the image, squint…

looks likes he’s playing sans pants.

In other words, look for a lot of doubletakes from folks channel surfing.[/quote]

how do you figure that ricko? what if brady quinn were similarly photoshopped…would you say the same thing?

[quote comment=”285021″]So I had a moment over the weekend where I realized that I might read this site too much. [/quote]

Does…not…compute…

-Jet

[quote comment=”285083″][quote comment=”285081″]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Chopper9/joshua-cribbs.jpg?t=1219013218

reduce the image, squint…

looks likes he’s playing sans pants.

In other words, look for a lot of doubletakes from folks channel surfing.[/quote]

how do you figure that ricko? what if brady quinn were similarly photoshopped…would you say the same thing?[/quote]

Only if the pants were paste-colored.

[quote comment=”285086″][quote comment=”285031″]link saints uni combo possibilities[/quote]

Where are the ‘home’ saints uni combo possibilities[/quote]

see the prior comment (last link) … or just click link

[quote comment=”285012″][quote comment=”285002″]Stripe-free brown pants? Ugh. All football pants that are not gold must have stripes. It is a simple rule and I insist that it be followed.[/quote]
Respectfully disagree. Colored pants generally should have no stripes. There’s generally too much striping in football uniforms these days. Some striping looks good — e.g., on the Giants’ pants — but generally it’s not needed. The Saints’ black pants look good.[/quote]
Agree to disagree. As a die-hard Saints fan, I CRINGE everytime I see the black pants. Keep wearing the gold with the large black stripe. The black-on-black look makes me want to shove my head in an oven.

[quote comment=”285092″][quote comment=”285090″]

Now, below is a quote from today’s ticker:

Matt Corica spotted a swoosh on the shoulder of NBC poolside reporter Andrea Kramer after Michael Phelps’ 8th gold medal. Makes sense – Nike puts a swoosh everywhere else. Why not on her, too?

Now, you compiled today’s ticker, did you not?

Well, I feel that’s the same tongue-in-cheek type of jab that Paul would have had also, that’s all.[/quote]

Ah, well that would be where Paul and I have similar opinions. Nike does tend to swooshify everything. That doesn’t mean Adidas, et. al don’t, too — that’s just what Andrea Kramer was wearing the other night.[/quote]
True.

I didn’t mention it before, but I’ll mention it now: why was that even a relevant ticker item? Kramer is a network employee working a sideline reporter gig, not an athlete in uniform. Is it because that is her “uniform” as a reporter?

I guess what I’m digging at is that if it was another maker’s logo, it would have probably been a non-issue.

pulled from the Orange & Brown Report forum….

Brown pants, brown socks
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Of those 2…..which looks like a football player, and which looks like somone preparing for a dance recital?
The dance recital effect is brought out even more by how skinny Joshua Cribbs is, and the fact that he’s playing without thigh pads. I think they’ll look a little better on, say, Joe Thomas. The striped socks improve the look substantially.

I don’t object to brown pants per se. But I otherwise find myself, as I often do, in agreement with Ricko. Stripe-less pants in 2008 are college football to my eye.

I think Don Hutson looks great in a stripe-less pair of pants, but that’s because he’s Don Hutson and there’s a leather helmet atop his head.

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They wear the white shirts/black pants at home sometimes too. Except for hot-weather teams (Miami, Tampa Bay, maybe Carolina), I can’t figure out why football teams wear white at home for some games and colored jerseys for other home games anyway. The Saints have no excuse — stick with black at home — they’re in a dome.

In regards to the “new” Saints uniforms… Am I missing something? Are they changing their uniforms next season, or is this somebody’s photoshop hobby?

As per the new Timberwolves uniforms, I never understand why teams pick such long nicknames that they can’t fit on a jersey. They should have just named the team, Wolves. Same goes for the Diamondbacks.

[quote comment=”285075″][quote comment=”285064″]Can you even buy official NFL pants….[/quote]

Not on a retail level. Sometimes the teams have benefit auctions or someone who knows someone who knows someone from the organization sells them in an online auction (which is how I got my hands on a pair of Dolphins’ pants), but other than that……[/quote]

The Titans Pro Shop sells game-worn pants, though they make no promises what player wore them. Interestingly enough, they’ve not yet added the light blue pants to the mix. Just the navy and white.

Chiming in on the comments about monochrome looks, I actually like the Titans’ blue on blue approach… although the light blue jersey with navy pants combo is my favorite. :)

[quote comment=”285096″]Kek, you are questioning the powers that be too much. Beware.

Although I will give Mr. Redemske credit: He has at least attempted a dialogue with you. The other one who also posts in a baby-shit colored box, Paul Lukas, would have told you you were wrong then told you to pipe down and ordered you to stop talking about it any further.

Then shortly after that his followers would have been forced to pull themselves away from weaning on his teat long enough to tell you that this is Paul’s website and he can say and do whatever he wants.

At least Bryan Redemske changes it up a little bit.[/quote]

It’s guys like this that make me realize how blind some people really are.

Look, Nike has to brand everything as Nike first, team second. As a prime example, link by moving the manufacturer’s logo to link and neckline. link followed suit when they were awarded the contract to outfit the league, and, now that Reebok owns CCM (who, in turn, is owned by adidas), the link.

Can you blame Reebok/Adidas for capitalizing on a trend that Nike started? No. But you can blame Nike for starting an unnecessary “fashion” trend in hockey that was duplicated by another clothing designer.

That’s the problem with Nike. It’s not that they don’t know how to make clothing properly. It’s that you have to know that they made it before you know what it is that they made.

[quote comment=”285105″]
Look, Nike has to brand everything as Nike first, team second. As a prime example, link by moving the manufacturer’s logo to link and neckline. link followed suit when they were awarded the contract to outfit the league, and, now that Reebok owns CCM (who, in turn, is owned by adidas), the link.
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Fixed the CCM link. Sorry!

[quote comment=”285108″][quote comment=”285106″][quote comment=”285097″]They wear the white shirts/black pants at home sometimes too. Except for hot-weather teams (Miami, Tampa Bay, maybe Carolina), I can’t figure out why football teams wear white at home for some games and colored jerseys for other home games anyway. The Saints have no excuse — stick with black at home — they’re in a dome.[/quote]
Don’t think it’s a weather issue at all. Just a tribute to previous good fortune.
I was born and raised in New Orleans, and from what I remember, 2000 featured a great regular season with an undefeated record away from the Dome. Coach Haslett decided to wear white at the home playoff game because he thought the white jerseys looked nice (but he didn’t want to buy into lucky laundry). The Saints won that game (against the defending champ Rams off the muffed punt, remember?) to snap their franchise-long playoff oh-fer. Thus bringing the Saints a bit of good “white at home” mojo.[/quote]
Alright. Makes sense. Like the Rockies wearing black home and away in the three playoff rounds and World Series last year.[/quote]

little different w/baseball, where you can wear your “alt” jersey as either your home or away, but the “white home/gray away” rule still applies…in football, the home team can decide whether to wear white or color regardless…a better example would be the steelers wearing white (even though they were the “home” team) against seattle in SBXL…they had won 3 away games in the playoffs wearing the white aways and either for “luck” or because cowher decided that any game not played in pitty would be an “away” game, they wore the whites

Pro Nike, anti-Nike, Pro Paul/Bryan, Anti Paul/Bryan, it doesn’t matter to me, as long as we can discuss and argue without getting banned for, in my case, liking Cincinnati Bengals’ jersey better than Penn State’s, I’m fine here.

[quote comment=”285110″][quote comment=”285105″]It’s guys like this that make me realize how blind some people really are.[/quote]

And it’s guys like you who constantly prove that the majority of you find yourselves forcefully removing your noses from Paul Lukas’ rectum before you post something.

This has nothing to do with Paul’s, or your, issue with Nike. I “get it”, to borrow a ridiculously overused phrase you idiots love to quote. What I was commenting on was Bryan’s willingness to at least entertain a contrary viewpoint from his and engage in something resembling a discussion.

This is markedly different from your God – Maker – Ruler Paul Lukas, who routinely shouts down anyone who disagrees with him (how many times has he busted out this gem: “You are way out of line”) and then orders that person to cease talking about it, lest he gets his comments deleted and is barred from posting on the website. I’m sure as Lukas’ proxy Bryan has the same ability to do it as well, yet he chooses not to act like a baby and instead uses the power of discussion to deal with it.

Go ahead, look back at all the times someone has dared to question Paul Lukas. And then read his response. The guy never loses, and if you don’t like it, and point out how unfair or silly his position is on something, well then all he can say is keep it to yourself or I’ll bar you from my website. Maybe that’s how the world works in his little slice of heaven, and yours, but not everyone shares your same opinion(s), and not everyone likes when someone pushes his opinion as fact and then tells everyone who doesn’t agree with him to shut up or he’ll silence you.[/quote]

Johhny, please don’t get the idea that I’m attacking you because I am not. I’m wondering why you would continue to visit a blog that you, apparently, dislike a lot.

[quote comment=”285114″]A couple of interesting news items out there today. First, the Boy Scouts changing up their uni’s. And second, a design-a-logo contest.

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I’m not big on that yellowish/goldenrod hat colour. What can’t it be the same colour as the uniform? It kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.

[quote comment=”285115″]Johhny, please don’t get the idea that I’m attacking you because I am not. I’m wondering why you would continue to visit a blog that you, apparently, dislike a lot.[/quote]

Are you kidding me, I love this website. The knowledge gleaned from this website is amazing sometimes. And 9 times out of 10 there is just as much relevant information in the comments as there are in the Ticker.

What I dislike is the part where someone dares to disagree with something that his Exalted High Grand Chief Paul Lukas says. That must somehow set off some sort of Nerd Alert because there is never a shortage of zombies who quickly jump on and use gems like “So-and-so doesn’t ‘get it'” or “This is his website so he can say and do whatever he wants to” simply because you dare to *gasp* question something or have a contrary viewpoint. Which of course, they learn from the Master himself, who never ceases to threaten someone who doesn’t agree with him with “this topic is now closed and if you continue with it then you will have your comments deleted and you’ll be banned from commenting”. In fact, look at the response to my post. First, it was “this guy is blind”, before going on another tirade against Nike. Then after that it was “his website his rules”. Simply because I dared to question and disagree.

[quote comment=\”285116\”][quote comment=\”285112\”][quote comment=\”285110\”]… but not everyone shares your same opinion(s), and not everyone likes when someone pushes his opinion as fact and then tells everyone who doesn\’t agree with him to shut up or he\’ll silence you.[/quote]

His website, his rules. Click the red \”X\” if you don\’t like it. No one forces you here.

Better yet, be an adult, skip past the anti-Nike comment, and don\’t sweat the small stuff. You know, like 99% of the individuals do on here.[/quote]

\”His website, his rules\”. Wow, didn\’t see that one coming.

\”His website, his rules\”, \”gets it\”, am I missing anything else you zombies like to use to hate on anyone who disagrees with you?[/quote]

Oh you\’re missing something alright.

This whole discussion reminds me of the lyrics –
\’You spend your time sitting in circles with your friends, pontificating to each other, forever competing for that one moment of self aggrandizing glory in which you hog the intellectual spotlight, holding dominion over the entire SHALLOW….POINTLESS…conversation.\’
Anyone?

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“His website, his rules”. Wow, didn’t see that one coming.

“His website, his rules”, “gets it”, am I missing anything else you zombies like to use to hate on anyone who disagrees with you?[/quote]

1. For your information, I have no problem with Nike aside from what they did in hockey. I couldn’t care less about any other piece of clothing they produce. I am concerned, however, with how hockey jerseys look because I like hockey’s traditional looks over some of the new-aged designs.

2. Your personal attack on me, and subsequently everyone else, reflects your overall maturity. Which, in this case, is less than an infant. Grow up.

3. My comment was specifically how Nike brands everything as their own first. They did it in hockey, and that was my point. No longer was the team’s logo the only logo on the front. Instead, the manufacturer was advertising itself on a team’s jersey, thereby selling its name and logo above the team’s name and logo. Adidas does it in soccer and baseball. UA does it in football. I’m aware that they do. I see it in pictures and on TV everyday. However, they are following one company’s lead – Nike’s. Therein lies the problem, and that was the point I was making.

4. I don’t agree with what Paul says on some topics on a regular basis, but I also don’t whine and bitch and moan about it in the comments. Why? Because no one cares. I stick to what matters to me, and the rest of it can sort itself out. Easy solution, if you ask me.

Thanks for expressing your opinion about Paul’s site as eloquently as ever.

[quote comment=”285123″]2. Your personal attack on me, and subsequently everyone else, reflects your overall maturity. Which, in this case, is less than an infant. Grow up.[/quote]

Which came after your attack on me. My original post was not directed at you nor did it reference you or solicit any feedback from you, yet apparently you felt the urge to respond with, I quote, “It’s guys like this that make me realize how blind some people really are”.

I am neither blind nor do I fail to see what the issues with Nike are. As a matter of fact, I agree with all of you. I agree with every point you made in your post.

Unfortunately, in your zeal to somehow get over on someone you have no clue about, you start your post with a jab at me. Which is fine. Maybe it makes you feel superior. Maybe you get off on stuff like that. Certainly, there are weirder fetishes on this site. I don’t know and I don’t care. But in the end, don’t accuse me of stooping to some childish level when you could just as easily have made your point without that opening line.

And so while you may think that my maturity level may be on par with that of an infant, the level of your hypocrisy is nothing to sneeze at either.

[quote comment=”285124″]What Messr. Poontang has brought up in his discussion is the issue of less freedom of dissent in an age of increasing information and technology. Despite unlimited content, speech becomes restricted in a strange inverse ratio…BUT this is not the blog for that discussion.

Hockey season can’t come quickly enough, I’ve had quite enough of Double Play Derek Jeter and this waste of a baseball season….[/quote]

I’ve been waiting for hockey season to start since the draft and since free angency died down. Thank god for the Olympics to distract my hockey cravings seeing I don’t like baseball or football.

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I am neither blind nor do I fail to see what the issues with Nike are. As a matter of fact, I agree with all of you. I agree with every point you made in your post.

Unfortunately, in your zeal to somehow get over on someone you have no clue about, you start your post with a jab at me. Which is fine. Maybe it makes you feel superior. Maybe you get off on stuff like that. Certainly, there are weirder fetishes on this site. I don’t know and I don’t care. But in the end, don’t accuse me of stooping to some childish level when you could just as easily have made your point without that opening line.[/quote]

If you agree, then why did make a huge deal out of the anti-Nike stance? And why rag on Paul if you agree with everything that I just said… which is precisely what the “logo creep” manifesto is all about?

Isn’t that hypocrisy at its most empirical form?

The “jab” was merely an emphatic “not this again” comment. If I offended you by insinuating that you were somehow blind to the concept of logo creep, I apologize. But if we agree on the concept, why is there such a backlash towards Paul?

Again, I don’t necessarily agree with everything that Paul says on the subject. But there’s no need to drag someone through the mud when’s he’s not here to defend his views.

[quote comment=”285117″][quote comment=”285114″]A couple of interesting news items out there today. First, the Boy Scouts changing up their uni’s. And second, a design-a-logo contest.

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I’m not big on that yellowish/goldenrod hat colour. What can’t it be the same colour as the uniform? It kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.[/quote]

Agreed, the hat sticks out too much. And where did they find that model? There wasn’t a 10 year old hanging around tht they could use?

[quote]kind of like figuring out the combination for “the button,” or at least your old man’s liquor cabinet. You kind of want to use it, but you’re trying to think of the reasons not to.[/quote]

your old man kept his booze locked up? that’s fucked up man

anyhoo…

bryan…any pics/commentary from/of the little league world series? i was hoping maybe we could discuss that instead of calling paul names

[quote comment=”285079″]The Minnesota Timberwolves have unveiled their new uniforms: As you can see it says at Noon (Central, and I am posting at 11:40), so they did a great job hiding them on the day of.

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Not as bad as the original Love picture. But…eh, we’ll have to see them in Game Action.[/quote]

What is that thing on their shorts? Looks like a 5th-grade baking soda volcano science project. meh

[quote comment=”285136″][quote comment=”285079″]The Minnesota Timberwolves have unveiled their new uniforms: As you can see it says at Noon (Central, and I am posting at 11:40), so they did a great job hiding them on the day of.

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Not as bad as the original Love picture. But…eh, we’ll have to see them in Game Action.[/quote]

What is that thing on their shorts? Looks like a 5th-grade baking soda volcano science project. meh[/quote]

Funny thing about that, there is one, count ’em one, legitimate mountain in Minnesota (Eagle Mountain in the Sawtooth “Mountians” north of Duluth along the North Shore). Not that it’s FLAT here, but it’s hardly Colorado

Am I the only one who is excited to see the Browns in brown? I prefer a side stripe, but I still think it will be fun to see. Not really any better or worse, just kind of cool. Then again, I love that they use brown because not many teams do.

My apologies for being wrong about 100% of what I said.

[quote comment=”285142″]My apologies for being wrong about 100% of what I said.[/quote]

i was just bustin’ on ya…i hope you knew that

you can never be wrong in your opinion…that’s why it’s an opinion

i’ll be watching the game…if only because of the g-men, but i spose it’ll be interesting to see how bad the browns do actually look…and i fully expect to see a full ‘brownout’ (similar to the vikes all purple, the texans red-out, and the myriad other monochrome looks the nfl is sporting these days)…

some teams can pull it off…i just don’t think dressing a 400 lb. lineman in all brown is gonna look like anything but…well…shit…and i truly think the browns should be wearing the white stripes and not the brown leggings

anyway…chriss…cheers…

[quote]i fully expect to see a full ‘brownout’[/quote]

*later in season

The most disappointing thing about those new Timberwolves unis – the fact that they kept that awful, awful number font.

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So much potential there, and yet they went ahead and stuck with clown suits that look like they were designed by 5th graders.

I was just joking too, I just thought it was funny how fast the pants got crapped on over here (no pun intended). I guess I must be abnormal because I really don’t think there is a bad color. You could dress a football team in pink if you wanted to, it’s just a color (except when Hayden Fry paints the locker room walls). I’m just interested how different colors have such strong connotations attached to them, it’s a fascinating thing to think about…

And don’t take that to mean that I don’t care about unis, I just think that with the right color scheme and patterns, any single color can be redeemable.

Who said anything wrong with brown? Not me. All I said was, Guess folks can’t level much criticism at original Broncos anymore if brown pants are now cool in the NFL.

And that in general I don’t like the Dark Pants Movement (hmmm, might be a straight-line there).

And, yes…also that a pants stripe or the white striped socks would help the new Browns look considerably. Not save it, just improve it. Make it less like old-style tight sweatpants (Borat would have worn them, I’m sure).

—Ricko

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Dude, I don’t know who you are…[/quote]

Let it go, BG. Bryan has his finger on the button, and no one wants that. ;o)

Seriously, it’s ok. Johnny and I, in my view, are fine in terms of being on speaking terms, and that’s ok. We simply let a little emotion get into our debate, and Bryan cut us off at the pass (as he should).

Let bygones be bygones. No need for more animosity or angry-typing. :o)

[quote]Actually, I hate Wal-Mart because it’s noisy, dirty, cluttered and it takes 15 damn minutes to check out.[/quote]

15 minutes? that’s it? where do you live, iowa? try buying anything in 15 minutes here on lawn guyland

[quote]I can’t say I hate Nike, because it makes the shoes my feet really like. I can say, however, that I don’t like its marketing and branding practices.[/quote]

i hate starbucks…frikkin hate it’s marketing and branding practices…but i LOVE LOVE LOVE their orange mango banana vivano (smoothie with the whey thrown in)…get one every day…so…they make a product i really like but i don’t agree with their whole philosophy…but i can’t have it both ways, so i don’t bitch about starbucks…if you asked me to take a side, i guess i’d side with $tarbux…

would you side with or against nike?

/just curious

Chad,
You are correct in that the brown pants and socks are not officially sold so that doesn’t boost their merchandise sales. However, I was refering to the whole ‘uniform’ which includes jerseys and helmets. Granted, the Browns haven’t touch their helmets (yet) but in the case of the Bills and Lions what a nightmare they have created especially when compared to their past designs.

A fan poll question to all.

Why do teams hold fan poll questions regarding things like uniform changes, logo changes etc, and time after time, choose to go another route rather than with what the fans choose? And for the most part, outside of this blog, no one seems to care. And yet when it comes to friggen all-star game voting, the fans seemingly have all the power. I don’t “get it”. But don’t get me wrong, I don’t want fans having say in uni’s, or all-star games for that matter, I’ve read one too many reports about recuirts and how they love the Oregon football unis.

I’m just curious like a cat I guess. I’ve got a couple of friends that call me whiskers.

[quote comment=”285114″]A couple of interesting news items out there today. First, the Boy Scouts changing up their uni’s. And second, a design-a-logo contest.

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I posted the BSA uniform change about two months ago as I am a Scout leader and was privy to the info before it became public. The new uniform is very nice. Many of the old-school volunteers didn’t like the change (go figure, as we uni-watchers know so well) but know that the new uniform has ben released, there has been a lot of positive support behind it. The old uniform is still “official” until it wears out. The BSA surveyed hundreds of boys and adults about new features for the uniforms. The last uniform change took place around 1982. Oscar de la Renta designed the BSA uniforms then. It took about 3 years for all of the old uniforms to fade away. Here’s another link for the BSA uniform that shows off the new features better.

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All this commentary about brown pants and no one even alludes to the French Army joke?

[quote comment=”285061″]The link says the Browns wore mostly white pants from 1946 to 1974. Mostly? What other color did they wear?[/quote]

During night games in the late 40’s and early 50’s the Browns wore a shiny (almost siver) pant to distinguish player from football which was white with black stripes(night game use)

duckstyle wrote:
“But seriously, 95% of the time football pants need stripes, and this is no exception.”

Was that “duckstyle” or “Y. Berra”???

SB

[quote comment=”285158″][quote]Actually, I hate Wal-Mart because it’s noisy, dirty, cluttered and it takes 15 damn minutes to check out.[/quote]

15 minutes? that’s it? where do you live, iowa? try buying anything in 15 minutes here on lawn guyland

[quote]I can’t say I hate Nike, because it makes the shoes my feet really like. I can say, however, that I don’t like its marketing and branding practices.[/quote]

i hate starbucks…frikkin hate it’s marketing and branding practices…but i LOVE LOVE LOVE their orange mango banana vivano (smoothie with the whey thrown in)…get one every day…so…they make a product i really like but i don’t agree with their whole philosophy…but i can’t have it both ways, so i don’t bitch about starbucks…if you asked me to take a side, i guess i’d side with $tarbux…

would you side with or against nike?

/just curious[/quote]

I don’t like any brands on my clothes if I can avoid it but I do like my Nike running shoes. I’ve tried others but my feet are size 13s and about three inches wide and Nike is the only company that assumes narrow feet are the norm. The Adidas, New Balance, and Reebok I’ve tried have to have their strings pulled all the way through and still have too much give.

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During night games in the late 40’s and early 50’s the Browns wore a shiny (almost siver) pant to distinguish player from football which was white with black stripes(night game use)[/quote]

Interesting. I guess it was never a problem to have brown jerseys & a brown football. Wonder if the brown pants will cause any confusion tonight.

[quote comment=”285122″]Does anyone remember? A long time ago, there was a ticker entry with an article about how like those green highway signs were designed. Does anyone know when that was from or have the link to it still? Thanks.[/quote]

This one?

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the players who have the higher whites for the browns dont look too awful but those who didnt pull their whites high look TERRRRRRIBLE

what IS that logo bottom left on his jacket?
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One more for the Brownies;
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IMO, it would be a huge step up if the browns added two orange stripes (orange stripe, brown stripe, orange stripe) to these pants to match the stripe treatment on their sleeves. it would be a much more complete look. otherwise, these pants (and the saints’ black pants and the jags’ black pants) just make the players look like they have big upper bodies and chicken legs and it looks terrible.

These Browns unis definitely don’t look as bad as I thought they would (wasn’t there a similar comment to that earlier today), but they just don’t look right on Cleveland’s National Football League Team.

The one nice thing I can say, they are better than the unitard look.

I once had a pair of pants that had PANTS written on them.

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Brady Quinn isn’t wearing the Revolution helmet anymore..

Not sports relate but more on Esky, the Esquire mascot that appeared as that sleeve patch in Friday’s column. He’s been in use by the magazine, in varying appearances, since the 40’s, link, as link, and as the statue in today’s column, which was used as a “Seen in Esquire” statue to set next to products seen in the publication. Esky has had a makeover and is now given as an link in the annual music issue. The smiley still appears on the spine of the American Esquire magazine and a few other versions of the magazine.

[quote comment=”285182″]what IS that logo bottom left on his jacket?
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[quote comment=”285197″]The A’s hat with the stripes has to be from 1976 when all teams wore those old-time hats for at least part of the season to celebrate the country’s bicentennial. The Pirates continued to wear them through their “We are Family” Championship in 1979 and maybe even a few years after.[/quote]

except that they were celebrating the NATIONAL LEAGUE CENTENNIAL, not the USA bicentennial…so it’s odd the A’s would have one

we had a similar instance of a detroit tiger wearing the pillbox during a japanese goodwill/all star series featured on this site about a month ago…we’re pretty sure no AL cap ever saw game action since the AL wouldn’t have been celebrating anything in 1976

[quote comment=”285199″][quote comment=”285190″]I once had a pair of pants that had PANTS written on them.

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Why does that link take me to a pic of a female Brazilian beach volleyball player?[/quote]

cuz…

she’s wearing a bra with the word “BRA” on it?

[quote comment=”285197″]The A’s hat with the stripes has to be from 1976 when all teams wore those old-time hats for at least part of the season to celebrate the country’s bicentennial. The Pirates continued to wear them through their “We are Family” Championship in 1979 and maybe even a few years after.[/quote]

One more time. In 1976 A’s wore kelly, not forest.

The Browns brown pants aren’t inherently bad, just very, very minor league. Don’t look like the Browns. Other than the orange pants of the Brian Sipe era and the ridiculous orange alt jerseys, they have worn essentially the same unis their entire existence.

If the idea is simply to be “different” than usual, okay, they’ve succeeded. They’re different. But they’re also a big step down. Way down. Unless, of course, they WANT to dress like the Missouri State A&M Teachers Tech Fightin’ Mudpies.

Just not an NFL-caliber presentation. Lose ’em. Get back to looking like the team that made a city so proud it refused to give up the nickname and the colors.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”285203″][quote comment=”285175″][quote comment=”285121″]This whole discussion reminds me of the lyrics –
\’You spend your time sitting in circles with your friends, pontificating to each other, forever competing for that one moment of self aggrandizing glory in which you hog the intellectual spotlight, holding dominion over the entire SHALLOW….POINTLESS…conversation.\’
Anyone?[/quote]

i think i am the only one to get the say anything reference. i dig it.[/quote]

Hey I got it, I just didn’t see it necessary to…

…get this…

say anything.

SB
Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner.[/quote]

[quote comment=”285173″]a-hole?[/quote]

Say what you want but this site’s “regular” traffic cop wouldn’t have posted that crap.

Black pants look horrible, and most of my fellow boardies wholeheartedly agree that the all-black look in JAX and BAL (and to an extent) NO are really Harry Highschool looking.

If Cleveland went all-brown (jersey, pants and socks), would they look like a piece of shit?

[quote comment=”285185″]The brown pants are actually fine, but they should wear one of the striped sock designs with them. I hope they try that.[/quote]

RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE – The Browns White/White are clasic, the brown pants look like a JV bargain rack mistake.

HIDEOUSITY !!!

[quote comment=”285131″][quote comment=”285117″][quote comment=”285114″]A couple of interesting news items out there today. First, the Boy Scouts changing up their uni’s. And second, a design-a-logo contest.

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I’m not big on that yellowish/goldenrod hat colour. What can’t it be the same colour as the uniform? It kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.[/quote]

Agreed, the hat sticks out too much. And where did they find that model? There wasn’t a 10 year old hanging around tht they could use?[/quote]

Those caps are for Cub Scouts, not Boy Scouts. The only reason you’d see that hat paired with a tan shirt is because an adult is wearing it. Cub Scouts wear blue shirts, while Boy Scouts and all adults wear the tan ones.

If the Brownies wore white socks to go with the brown pants, it might just work.

[quote comment=”285217″][quote comment=”285186″]IMO, it would be a huge step up if the browns added two orange stripes (orange stripe, brown stripe, orange stripe) to these pants to match the stripe treatment on their sleeves. it would be a much more complete look. otherwise, these pants (and the saints’ black pants and the jags’ black pants) just make the players look like they have big upper bodies and chicken legs and it looks terrible.[/quote]

Ironically enough, the Jags used to have a stripe on the side of their black pants, which approximated the multi-color border around their uniform numbers. They only wore it for one season, if I recall correctly, before going to the plain black with a Jag-head on the hip.[/quote]

You can sort of see it here, but I’ll see if I can find a better picture:

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Best shot:

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The A’s used to have a short season farm team located in Medford, Oregon. They used Oakland’s colors and logo until the 90’s. I can remember getting the “pillbox” cap at Miles Field. (where they played)in 84 or 85. I cannot recall if the team wore these caps but They were selling them in Medford, and I had one.

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Thanks for all the comments about the A’s pillbox hat! All very interesting!