I know for a fact that several MLB broadcasters read Uni Watch. One of them, who I won’t name here, occasionally trades e-mails with me during games. To my knowledge, however, neither my ESPN column nor this site has ever been mentioned during an MLB broadcast.
Until yesterday, that is. Apparently someone informed Cubbies play-by-play man Len Kasper (that’s him on the left in the photo shown above) that I’d run a transcript of his recent uni-centric banter with color man Bob Brenly (on the right), and at least one of them was rather amused by the whole thing. Here’s how it went down during the bottom of the 6th in yesterday’s Cubs/Astros game:
Kasper: Hey, Bob, we have a follow-up from our weekend conversation about Doug Mientkiewicz and his uniform, and the buttons. The Astros have the same setup as the Pirates, and pretty much every team in baseball. You see how it’s unevenly spaced — they have the two buttons at the top, but then they leave space for the “Houston.” That’s called pro buttoning — there’s actually a name for it. The folks at UniWatchBlog.com put up a transcript of our conversation”¦
Brenly [chuckling]: Oh, geez”¦
Kasper: ”¦ about Doug Mientkiewicz. So that’s the pro button style. And the Cubs’ home pinstripes, and the blue alternate tops, which they are wearing [today], are the only ones in baseball that are not of the pro button style. You see, it’s evenly spaced, because they don’t have a team name across the middle. There was a big article on ESPN.com about uniform styles back in late May. So thanks to the folks at UniWatchBlog.com for noticing. I didn’t know that, that it had a name — pro button.
Brenly [sounding mildly impatient with the topic]: Why should you know that?
Kasper: And what can happen with the pro button style is billowing, meaning the uniform goes out a little bit because there’s a big space between the second and third buttons. I don’t know if billowing was a problem for you when you played, but it’s an epidemic around the game today.
Brenly [very sarcastically]: Oh, what are we gonna do? [Camera shows close-up of Astros jersey.]
Kasper: Now, they — do they have a little Velcro in there, keeping the “Houston” together? Some teams have that, too. [Hitter strikes out, briefly necessitating some actual game commentary.] Called strike three. [Now back to important matters.] There’s all kinds of stuff like this on the internet.
Brenly [with an exasperated chuckle of barely concealed disgust]: Okay.
Kasper [on a roll now]: Everything you need to know about baseball uniforms. The Phillies had the zippers, right? [Director inexplicably chooses to show a dachsund outside the stadium.] That dog’s not that interested.
Brenly [with an air of what he clearly hopes will be finality]: All I know is I was happy every day I got to the ballpark and there was one hanging in my locker. They could’ve taken all the buttons off of it. Could’ve had one big button right in the middle, I didn’t care, as long as there was one hanging in my locker.
Kasper [apparently skimming through the aforementioned ESPN column]: I guess the Washington Nationals’ red alternate uniforms also do not have the pro button style. So we’ll have to ask Doug Mientkiewicz if he’s a fan of that particular style.
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And that’s where that particular bit of discourse ended. The funny thing is, Brenly’s the one who first brought up Mienkiewicz’s buttons last weekend, and he’s also the one who suggested that the Pirates’ jerseys could use some Velcro. But I guess he just wasn’t in the mood yesterday.
Anyway: I assume someone will bring today’s entry to Kasper’s attention. So hey, Len, get in touch — I’ve got a Uni Watch membership card with your name on it. And there’s one for you too, Bob, but only if you stop being so uni-grouchy.
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Uni Watch News Ticker: Looks like the new OKC team’s new name is out of the bag. ”¦ The USA women’s soccer team usually wears the national soccer crest on their chest (here’s a clearer view) and shorts. But in yesterday’s Olympic opener against Norway, they were crest-free on both their jerseys and shorts, so the only visible mark on the uniforms was, well, guess. ”¦ The 2008 World Series logo and 2009 All-Star Game logo have been released. The ASG design clearly wins, since it has two “TM” marks and two circle-R marks (plus a sternum-level Majestic logo if you want a T-shirt), while the World Series logo has two circle-Rs but only one TM. So the ASG legal team wins home-field advantage in this year’s “Whose Lawyers Are Bigger Douchebags?” sweepstakes. ”¦ While we’re at it, Ryan C. Johnston was at Busch Stadium the day the ASG logo was unveiled and took some pics of the ceremonies, which I’ve gathered into this slideshow. Seems like a bit much for a logo for an exhibition game, no? ”¦ Tom Shieber notes that Robinson Cano’s memorial armband for Bobby Murcer was missing on Monday night. ”¦ Shieber also reports that he’s made a change to the “Dressed to the Nines” exhibit: “On the section devoted to ‘Names and Numbers,’ I’ve changed the table detailing retired numbers to include (as best as I can determine) the exact date when each number was retired. There are still a few question marks and entries in which the date is ‘unknown,’ but happily I’ve managed to track down the vast majority. Additions, corrections, suggestions are most welcome.” ”¦ Did the Durham Bulls once wear satin jerseys or BP tops? To see why I ask, look here and here (with thanks to Jay Sandora). ”¦ In addition to those new Syracuse jerseys, there will also be a new helmet, with white outlining on the “S” and the return of the white center stripe. Good analysis of the school’s overall changes here. ”¦ Interesting note from decal guru Chris Willis regarding the thin plastic film on this helmet: “There’s actually a decal across the front of the helmet that works the same way the plastic on a new phone/ipod/electronics item does. It’s called a Gouge-Gard, and it’s marketed by Creative Football Concepts out of New Jersey. It’s a clear decal that’s cut so that it will conform to the shape of the helmet and it is used mostly for training camp and preseason to protect the front of the helmet from getting gouged up too quickly, especially if it’s a painted helmet. The equipment guys have enough to do during camp.” ”¦ According to this page, there are rumors (and I stress that there’s nothing more solid than that) that Nike wants USC to wear black jerseys against Ohio State (with thanks to Glenn Tanner). ”¦ “At first glance,” says Greg Riffenburgh, “this Adidas template doesn’t look so bad. A little weird, maybe, but there have definitely been worse. Then I saw this. And this.” ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Jaw-droppingly great photo of Paul Hornung. ”¦ Another great old Otis Shepard program cover for the Cubs here (with thanks to Andrew Tanker). ”¦ I’m all in favor of high cuffs, but not if they’re so high that your stirrups’ laundry tag is exposed. ”¦ Good article here about Michigan’s transition from Nike to Adidas (with thanks to Greg DiLeo). ”¦ Here’s something you don’t often see: a gallery of Nebraska media guides from 1964-1990 (nice find by Brian Hansen). ”¦ The WHA’s Chicago Cougars’ home jersey looked like this, but for years Matt Mallonee thought it looked like this (closer views here and here). Here’s why: “This sweater has been in my family for quite some time, first with my uncle then my dad. My dad said they used to go to games at the old Barn when he was a kid, and at some point they bought this sweater. He was sure it was what the players wore, and I had no reason to doubt him. However, one day I got curious and looked the Cougars up. Well, he was only 11 or 12 at the time, so I can forgive him. In actuality, the cougar on the sweater is wearing the team’s actual design!” Man, that is a fantastic design. Anyone know more about this item? ”¦ The Reebok logo on the Steelers’ pants has always looked like this, but Brinke Guthrie notes that it now apparently looks like this, which is not what I’d call an improvement, unless you’re a Reebok shareholder. ”¦ Michigan State has added a pants stripe. ”¦ Who knew Rudy Giuliani played hockey? ”¦ As most of you know, I tend to prefer fun logo mascots over snarly ones. But not everyone agrees (with thanks to Matt Monsour). ”¦ Check out this shot of Nolan Ryan. He always batted right-handed, so why is he wearing a lefty batting helmet in that photo? Maybe it’s a double-flapper? … FNOB alert from Matt Englander: “Matt Elliott had FNOB as a member of the Michigan Wolverines in the early ’90s (that shot is from the 1990 UM vs. OSU game). I am guessing he had to do so because Jumbo Elliott was also on the squad at that time. He was later selected at the very end of the 1992 NFL draft, a true Mr. Irrelevant who achieved relevancy by wearing his entire name on the back of his jersey.” ”¦ Remember that “10 Worst Philly Uniforms” list? Here’s its 10 best counterpart (with thanks to Pete Salveson). ”¦ Amusing Yet Appalling Dept.: Here’s a story about a guy obsessed with finding a “Patriots 19-0” T-shirt (with thanks to Daniel Ostroff-Moskowitz). ”¦ Rare non-Wisconsin-related report from Nicole Haase, who writes: “So I’m watching Project Runway tonight, and the challenge is to create an outfit for the team to wear for the opening ceremony. They go to a place called the Armory and meet with Apolo Anton Ohno, who’s tells them this is the challenge and then invites them to go look at a museum there that has a history of Americans in the Olympics. Looks like your kind of place — the little that they showed in the episode made me want to go there, like, NOW. I actually turned on my laptop just to send this to you, so I did a quick google search and didn’t come up with anything, but hopefully you know what this place is, because if you haven’t been there, it seems to me you have to go. And hopefully they have maybe this new place (which is right here in NYC, but I haven’t gotten around to checking it out yet)? … “I’ve always been a big hat collector,” writes Tim Stoops. “Imagine the tribbles in Star Trek, only with hats, and you have my room. So in March I started taking daily pictures of each one and posting them on Flickr. I’m up 147.” … Nevada’s helmets have apparently changed from this to this. I assume there’s a corresponding uniform change, but I haven’t seen pics of that yet (with thanks to Mike Etheridge). … There are two new books about branding that tie in with a lot of my gripes about logo creep. The first is Steve Heller’s Iron Fists: Branding in the 20th-Century Totalitarian State, which finds parallels between Hitler’s, Mao’s, Mussolini’s, and Stalin’s propaganda machines and modern marketing/branding applications (and no, I’m not comparing Phil Knight to Hitler, so calm down). I just got a copy of this and hope to write about it soon, but for now there’s an insightful review and some great artwork here. The second book is Lucas Conley’s OBD: Obsessive Branding Disorder. Lots of reviews here, and you can see Conley doing a good interview with Stephen Colbert below (with thanks to Joe Alviani for tipping me wise to the video clip):
Picture Gallery of Wayne Gretzky’s Career
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Tons of uni goodness…. well excpet for the STL unis. LOVE the old school Oilers and Kings unis. Still looking for a Black and Gray Kings jersey for myself…
Now that Oklahoma City is now the Thunder, what are the Golden State Warriors going to do? Thunderbolts are a large part of their logos. Even their mascot is named Thunder. Let’s hope that they go back to their old logos.
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I heard the Cubs game, weird because Brenley is usually the most unicentric of the two. He babbles on quite a bit about uniforms, sunglasses and other accessories.
ON ANOTHER NOTE: I am one of those insane soccer fans who awoke at 5 a.m. eastern time to watch the US play Japan in the Olympics. BRIAN MCBRIDE had uni issues. He wore No. 17 but the “1” on the front of his jersey came off in the first half. They fixed it at half time….but it came off again. Anyone get a screen grab?
[quote comment=\”283683\”]Now that Oklahoma City is now the Thunder, what are the Golden State Warriors going to do? Thunderbolts are a large part of their logos. Even their mascot is named Thunder. Let\’s hope that they go back to their old logos.
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That Bennett guy. First he steals a team, then he steals a brand.
Note to Jets: Please, please, please do NOT wear the green & green combo. Really have no desire to see what Brett Favre looked like if he’d played in the early 60’s CFL, the Arena league or for some rural, backwater high school without the manpower or budget to keep white pants clean.
Syracuse finally got the football uniforms right (the on field performance is another story). Now stop tinkering with it! Go work on making the basketball uniforms respectable again.
[quote comment=”283688″]Note to Jets: Please, please, please do NOT wear the green & green combo. Really have no desire to see what Brett Favre looked like if he’d played in the early 60’s CFL, the Arena league or for some rural, backwater high school without the manpower or budget to keep white pants clean.[/quote]
Addendum: In fact, don’t wear the green pants at all. Because they look exaclty as I’ve mentioned above. Very bush league, especially when your current uni is the one you wore winning arguably the most famous and significant Super Bowl game ever played.
All that being said…Man, between the Jets and the Giants it should be fun pro football season for New York fans. Enjoy.
Brenley probably came here and saw that he got zinged for wearing a yellow shirt under the Cubs powder blues.
Or, he’s doing the typical macho jock thing: If I notice something about unis it’s okay. If you do, you’re weird.
As a little bit more inside of me dies knowing that Brett Favre will be now known as “Broadway Brett”, I can’t help but kind of want to get a green and white Favre jersey… oh wait…=)
I am now officially a Packers fan first, but a Jets fan second. Hey New York fans… please treat Brett well.
The “place called the Armory” is the 168th Street Armory. It is one of the best indoor track facilities and hosts hundreds of high school and college races a year.
The museum there is the national track hall of fame. link
I was watching the U.S. Men’s Olympic Soccer team this morning, and they were missing the crest as well…what gives?
Also, Brian McBride appeared to have lost the 1 from his #17 on the front of his jersey at some point.
Sorry no screen shots…
Maybe it’s an Umbro thing, but the numbers and lettering on Norway’s soccer uniforms are the same as the previous version of those from England’s National team.
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The Red Wings website has Both Maltby and Hossa wearing #18.
However this shows he’s taking his #18 and switching it to an 81.
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[quote comment=”283682″]Picture Gallery of Wayne Gretzky’s Career
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Tons of uni goodness…. well excpet for the STL unis. LOVE the old school Oilers and Kings unis. Still looking for a Black and Gray Kings jersey for myself…[/quote]
in the first rangers pictures,w hat’s the deal with his letter spacing?
Getcha New York Bretts jersey here..getcha Bretts jersey here…
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….and as of 8 am EDT, link is totally non-responsive. It seems people will do anything to see a J-E-T-S Favre #4, even if it is just a replica. Apparently, the site had it up for sale by midnight last night.
Gretzky retrospectives never include photos of him in Indianpolis Racers uni (WHA), which was his first pro team. We can argue about status of WHA, but it WAS his first team.
Come to think of it, I’ve never SEEN photos of him as a Racer. ANYONE ever see one?
—Ricko
[quote comment=”283702″][quote comment=”283682″]Picture Gallery of Wayne Gretzky’s Career
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Tons of uni goodness…. well excpet for the STL unis. LOVE the old school Oilers and Kings unis. Still looking for a Black and Gray Kings jersey for myself…[/quote]
in the first rangers pictures,w hat’s the deal with his letter spacing?[/quote]
I noticed that too. You would think the rangers would have tried a little harder.
[quote comment=”283705″]Gretzky retrospectives never include photos of him in Indianpolis Racers uni (WHA), which was his first pro team. We can argue about status of WHA, but it WAS his first team.
Come to think of it, I’ve never SEEN photos of him as a Racer. ANYONE ever see one?
—Ricko[/quote]
Ask and you shall recieve…
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Not sports related, but definitely uniform related article here:
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[quote comment=”283696″]The “place called the Armory” is the 168th Street Armory. It is one of the best indoor track facilities and hosts hundreds of high school and college races a year.
The museum there is the national track hall of fame. link
Wow — I’ve lived in NYC for 21 yrs without knowing that was there. A field trip is definitely in order.
[quote comment=”283689″]Syracuse finally got the football uniforms right (the on field performance is another story). Now stop tinkering with it! Go work on making the basketball uniforms respectable again.[/quote]
Or making the football TEAM respectable again.
I got home from work yesterday afternoon right as the 6th inning was finishing up and I just missed it. Awesome to get the transcript!
Anyways, in case anybody wants to e-mail Len and Bob and give them an attaboy for plug, here’s their address: link
I was literally ROTFL watching the Lucas Conley segment at home the other night. His arguments remind me of the Bill Hicks routine about marketing & advertising. I may have to go to Borders to read OBD.
We’ll return to the comments, after these messages from the Reggie candy bar and Jaromir Jagr peanut butter!
Is it me, or is there a tube coming out of the top button hole on link?
If that’s the case, what is the reasoning for it?
The Syracuse helmets look pretty damn good! the jerseys on the other hand…
[quote comment=”283714″]Is it me, or is there a tube coming out of the top button hole on link?
If that’s the case, what is the reasoning for it?[/quote]
It looks like it may be a pair of sunglasses being held up by the button hole. The glasses look to be under the jersey.
As a ‘Cuse student, I’m glad to see that the team has decided to stop looking like a joke (even if it still performs like one on the field). The re-addition of the white brings us back to the good ol’ days of Donovan McNabb.
As far as the basketball jerseys go, nothing can top the ones we wore back in 2003 when we had Carmelo. The SOD unis have got to go.
Did anyone watching the Cards – Dodgers game last notice Cards outfielder Skip Shumaker’s batting helmet toward the end of the game? It was hard to tell if it was a shadow but it sure looked like the bill of his helmet had a large crack in his last two at-bats. Anyone else notice this?
I live in Chicago, but am not a Cubs (or Sox) fan. However, I will watch Cubs games much more than Sox (or even national ESPN and TBS) because of Len Kasper. I think he’s a smart, funny, interesting announcer, much in the mold of the late Skip Carey (although not as sardonic).
He really is one of the more underrated play-by-play announcers in the league.
[quote comment=”283700″]photoshops of brett
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But you’ll notice whoever did the photoshop wasn’t smart enough to remove the Lambeau Field patch from Brett’s left shoulder.
The US Men had no crest as well. Japan had the ol’ Rising Sun, not the Japan Football Association logo. I believe it is an Olympic rule.
Mentioned above, and I posted in a 2 day old thread about it, but Brian McBride went from 17 to 7 at least for a short while last night, no good photos though.
Also on the Brett jersey front – lots of possible Favre misspellings reported in the local paper:
For sale in New York: Favre everything
Sports memorabilia sellers were up in the wee hours making hay of Brett Favre’s trade to the New York Jets.
On ebay, one seller is offering a “FARVE NYJ” New York license plate – complete with misspelling.
Someone else is trying to get $3,000 for brettfarve.nyjets.com.
Yes, the seller botched the spelling of that one, too.
A generous sports fan is offering to sell a used No. 4. jersey for former Jets quarterback Glenn Foley. The seller notes the buyer can switch the nameplate on the back “and you would have a $175 jersey at a much more modest price.”
In the New York area, fans are sure to fork over money for Favre jerseys, gear and other collectibles, as soon as fans figure out who he is.
An employee at Modell’s Sporting Goods location in Brooklyn hadn’t been clued in yet.
“What’s the name?” she said, when asked whether Favre jerseys were available.
Then, “What team does he play for?”
At least the employees have heard of Favre at the company’s store in Newark, NJ.
Assistant store manager Sammy Gonzalez said just before the store opened today that he’s already received a few phone calls seeking Favre jerseys.
Modell’s Web site is already advertising Favre jerseys in Jets green for $80, though the pictures are generic – no number 4.
And those jerseys for sure-to-be outgoing quarterback Chad Pennington?
“We’re getting ready to do a bunch of price changes,” Gonzalez said.
I am pretty sure that the picture labeled Nolan Ryan is actually of Terry Puhl. The baseball pictures are great!! But sometimes the labels do not jive.
[quote comment=”283721″]The US Men had no crest as well. Japan had the ol’ Rising Sun, not the Japan Football Association logo. I believe it is an Olympic rule.
Mentioned above, and I posted in a 2 day old thread about it, but Brian McBride went from 17 to 7 at least for a short while last night, no good photos though.[/quote]
Here’s the thing, though. Argentina, Brazil, and even freakin’ HONDURAS have their Federation crests on their uniforms. Not the United States. Not Italy. Not even Sepp Blatter’s Germany.
I think there’s more to this story. It can’t be an “IOC rule” that keeps a Federation logo off a uniform. What would that do for ice hockey, for example? Would the United States have to remove the flying USA off their jersey?
This should be receiving as much blog coverage as Obama and his USA flag pin! Where are the neocon babblers when you need them the most? Oh, right … they’re working on Paris Hilton.
[quote comment=”283693″]As a little bit more inside of me dies knowing that Brett Favre will be now known as “Broadway Brett”, I can’t help but kind of want to get a green and white Favre jersey… oh wait…=)
I am now officially a Packers fan first, but a Jets fan second. Hey New York fans… please treat Brett well.[/quote]
As a lifelong Packers fan in New York, I’ll do my part.
I never had an interest in buying one of the local teams’ jerseys, even though I love both their home looks. But I’m buying a #4 Titans jersey just as soon the Jets’ online shop comes back up (at least two hours and counting).
[quote comment=”283688″]Note to Jets: Please, please, please do NOT wear the green & green combo. Really have no desire to see what Brett Favre looked like if he’d played in the early 60’s CFL, the Arena league or for some rural, backwater high school without the manpower or budget to keep white pants clean.[/quote]
OH Please. The green and green FANTASTIC. Best Jets combo!!!
Green and green is bush-league, especially since the green jersey/white pants is so link.
After that, link is their best look. Green/green comes way at the bottom.
[quote comment=”283724″][quote comment=”283721″]The US Men had no crest as well. Japan had the ol’ Rising Sun, not the Japan Football Association logo. I believe it is an Olympic rule.
Mentioned above, and I posted in a 2 day old thread about it, but Brian McBride went from 17 to 7 at least for a short while last night, no good photos though.[/quote]
Here’s the thing, though. Argentina, Brazil, and even freakin’ HONDURAS have their Federation crests on their uniforms. Not the United States. Not Italy. Not even Sepp Blatter’s Germany.
I think there’s more to this story. It can’t be an “IOC rule” that keeps a Federation logo off a uniform. What would that do for ice hockey, for example? Would the United States have to remove the flying USA off their jersey?
This should be receiving as much blog coverage as Obama and his USA flag pin! Where are the neocon babblers when you need them the most? Oh, right … they’re working on Paris Hilton.[/quote]
I think what we saw on the South American teams were generic crests, all I have to double check though.
One other Uni-Tid Bit from the US/Japan game: Marvell Wynne had his Jersey ripped around the 30th minute. If you want to see Brian McBride with just the 7 on the front of his shirt, watch the replay on nbcolympics.com, it happens in the 37th minute.
I’m not trying to complain or anything, just curious: I posted that transcript in the Ricko Files 5 thread last night, and I see this morning that it got deleted. Did I violate some rule by doing that? :)
None of the Olympic soccer teams have their country’s soccer federation logo on their shirts.
The US Soccer crest is still on the US jersey though, it’s at the bottom of the back numbers.
[quote comment=”283729″]I’m not trying to complain or anything, just curious: I posted that transcript in the Ricko Files 5 thread last night, and I see this morning that it got deleted. Did I violate some rule by doing that? :)[/quote]
Actually, for reasons I’m not sure of, your transcript post got waylaid by the auto-moderator and was never posted to the full site (you could see it, but nobody else could). Once I saw it in the moderation queue, I didn’t approve it, because I didn’t want to give away the full transcript before I ran my own transcription as the meat of today’s entry. And once today’s entry went up, I went back and deleted your post from the moderation queue, since it would now be redundant.
No offense intended, Robert — thanks, as always, for your contributions.
[quote comment=”283690″]“Don’t wear the green pants at all. Because they look very bush league.”[/quote]
Are you looking, Jeff Lurie?
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in the first rangers pictures,w hat’s the deal with his letter spacing?[/quote]
He and Messier are wearing two different jerseys in terms of the manufacturer. The necklines are completely different, making me think that one is a Starter jersey, and the other is a CCM jersey. Gretzky wore Starter jerseys in New York until he retired. Ironically, that photo might be one of the few photos of Gretzky and Messier wearing the diagonal name jersey without the lace-up collar. I’ve only seen a few others. They went to the lace-up collar after his first season in the Big Apple.
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Tons of uni goodness…. well excpet for the STL unis. LOVE the old school Oilers and Kings unis. Still looking for a Black and Gray Kings jersey for myself…[/quote]
Black and silver, Jim. They went to gray on the link jerseys. ;o)
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The first photo has Gretzky wearing #20. He only wore #20 for that photo because they didn’t have a #99 jerseys ready for the photoshoot. He never wore #20 in the WHA (or anywhere else, for that matter).
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Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Jaw-droppingly great photo of Paul Hornung.
Paul, there were no comments yesterday as you had “gone fishin'”, so someone must have hacked into the system to post something. ;o)
[quote comment=”283731″][quote comment=”283729″]I’m not trying to complain or anything, just curious: I posted that transcript in the Ricko Files 5 thread last night, and I see this morning that it got deleted. Did I violate some rule by doing that? :)[/quote]
Actually, for reasons I’m not sure of, your transcript post got waylaid by the auto-moderator and was never posted to the full site (you could see it, but nobody else could). Once I saw it in the moderation queue, I didn’t approve it, because I didn’t want to give away the full transcript before I ran my own transcription as the meat of today’s entry. And once today’s entry went up, I went back and deleted your post from the moderation queue, since it would now be redundant.
No offense intended, Robert — thanks, as always, for your contributions.[/quote]
Or the above reason. Never mind the last portion in my previous comment. :o)
[quote comment=”283726″][quote comment=”283688″]Note to Jets: Please, please, please do NOT wear the green & green combo. Really have no desire to see what Brett Favre looked like if he’d played in the early 60’s CFL, the Arena league or for some rural, backwater high school without the manpower or budget to keep white pants clean.[/quote]
OH Please. The green and green FANTASTIC. Best Jets combo!!![/quote]
Nope. Looks like East Podunk High, especially to those of us who were around for the days when only top line programs had the wherewithall to afford the luxury of white pants.
(Actually, and I’m sure this is part of the trend toward dark pants, the new turfs made from tires get hundreds of little black pills–or even more bits of fake green grass–all over them, and the damn things don’t come out in the laundry. Gotta pick those suckers off by hand. I know, I play softball on a turf like that all winter long under a local high school’s air-supported-dome football field. So I can understand that white pants might remain a pain, just in a different way.)
I realize things change, but the dark pants do still take some getting used to. I just keep thinking of SO many horrible small-town high school programs that dressed like that.
QUESTION: Thinking of renting SCHOOL TIES with Brandon Fraser cuz of the old school football unis. Is the movie any good?
—Ricko
[quote comment=”283723″]I am pretty sure that the picture labeled Nolan Ryan is actually of Terry Puhl. The baseball pictures are great!! But sometimes the labels do not jive.[/quote]
Great catch – definitely Terry Puhl – a right handed batter wouldn’t be holding the bat like that, either.
Two things:
1) I am surprised that the StL ASG logo doesn’t incorporate the large mud pit right beside the stadium: link
2) Nolan did wear a double-flap batting helmet occaionally, but I don’t have a picture that shows it. I just remember seeing him wearing it when I was a kid.
[quote comment=”283731″]No offense intended, Robert — thanks, as always, for your contributions.[/quote]
No problem, Paul. As I said, just curious — wanted to make sure I didn’t do anything wrong, as I’m a new commenter here and all. :)
[quote comment=”283736″][quote comment=”283723″]I am pretty sure that the picture labeled Nolan Ryan is actually of Terry Puhl. The baseball pictures are great!! But sometimes the labels do not jive.[/quote]
Great catch – definitely Terry Puhl – a right handed batter wouldn’t be holding the bat like that, either.[/quote]
Right…though I bet Terry doesn’t mind being confused with Nolan..
[quote comment=”283733″][quote comment=”283702″]
in the first rangers pictures,w hat’s the deal with his letter spacing?[/quote]
He and Messier are wearing two different jerseys in terms of the manufacturer. The necklines are completely different, making me think that one is a Starter jersey, and the other is a CCM jersey. Gretzky wore Starter jerseys in New York until he retired. Ironically, that photo might be one of the few photos of Gretzky and Messier wearing the diagonal name jersey without the lace-up collar. I’ve only seen a few others. They went to the lace-up collar after his first season in the Big Apple.
[quote comment=”283682″]
Tons of uni goodness…. well excpet for the STL unis. LOVE the old school Oilers and Kings unis. Still looking for a Black and Gray Kings jersey for myself…[/quote]
Black and silver, Jim. They went to gray on the link jerseys. ;o)
[quote comment=”283707″]
Ask and you shall recieve…
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The first photo has Gretzky wearing #20. He only wore #20 for that photo because they didn’t have a #99 jerseys ready for the photoshoot. He never wore #20 in the WHA (or anywhere else, for that matter).
Lastly,
Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Jaw-droppingly great photo of Paul Hornung.
Paul, there were no comments yesterday as you had “gone fishin'”, so someone must have hacked into the system to post something. ;o)[/quote]
I have always known it’s Black and sliver Teebz, must have had a brain fart on the black and gray comment. I am ashamed on the mistake seeing it’s one of my favorite unis in hockey :( In my defense it was 8am and I was still in zombie mode:)
[quote comment=”283711″][quote comment=”283689″]Syracuse finally got the football uniforms right (the on field performance is another story). Now stop tinkering with it! Go work on making the basketball uniforms respectable again.[/quote]
Or making the football TEAM respectable again.[/quote]
Baby steps…
It’s just my opinion, but I doubt that those are actually Nevada’s new helmets.
I know when I played in college, we didn’t put our stripes and decals on until the Thursday before the first game. We went all camp without decals so they didn’t get scatched up before the first game. I’m guessing they will add the Lobo logo at a future date. But I’m just guessing.
[quote comment=”283740″][quote comment=”283733″][quote comment=”283702″]
in the first rangers pictures,w hat’s the deal with his letter spacing?[/quote]
He and Messier are wearing two different jerseys in terms of the manufacturer. The necklines are completely different, making me think that one is a Starter jersey, and the other is a CCM jersey. Gretzky wore Starter jerseys in New York until he retired. Ironically, that photo might be one of the few photos of Gretzky and Messier wearing the diagonal name jersey without the lace-up collar. I’ve only seen a few others. They went to the lace-up collar after his first season in the Big Apple.
[quote comment=”283682″]
Tons of uni goodness…. well excpet for the STL unis. LOVE the old school Oilers and Kings unis. Still looking for a Black and Gray Kings jersey for myself…[/quote]
Black and silver, Jim. They went to gray on the link jerseys. ;o)
[quote comment=”283707″]
Ask and you shall recieve…
link
link
The first photo has Gretzky wearing #20. He only wore #20 for that photo because they didn’t have a #99 jerseys ready for the photoshoot. He never wore #20 in the WHA (or anywhere else, for that matter).
Lastly,
Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Jaw-droppingly great photo of Paul Hornung.
Paul, there were no comments yesterday as you had “gone fishin'”, so someone must have hacked into the system to post something. ;o)[/quote]
I have always known it’s Black and sliver Teebz, must have had a brain fart on the black and gray comment. I am ashamed on the mistake seeing it’s one of my favorite unis in hockey :( In my defense it was 8am and I was still in zombie mode:)[/quote]
More Uni goodness (minus STL of course)in the Top 10 gallery.
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Plus shows one of my favorite All Star unis of all time. Love the orange Campbell jerseys. Also shows #99 in the NYR lace-up jersey.
[quote comment=”283735″][quote comment=”283726″][quote comment=”283688″]Note to Jets: Please, please, please do NOT wear the green & green combo. Really have no desire to see what Brett Favre looked like if he’d played in the early 60’s CFL, the Arena league or for some rural, backwater high school without the manpower or budget to keep white pants clean.[/quote]
OH Please. The green and green FANTASTIC. Best Jets combo!!![/quote]
Nope. Looks like East Podunk High, especially to those of us who were around for the days when only top line programs had the wherewithall to afford the luxury of white pants.
(Actually, and I’m sure this is part of the trend toward dark pants, the new turfs made from tires get hundreds of little black pills–or even more bits of fake green grass–all over them, and the damn things don’t come out in the laundry. Gotta pick those suckers off by hand. I know, I play softball on a turf like that all winter long under a local high school’s air-supported-dome football field. So I can understand that white pants might remain a pain, just in a different way.)
I realize things change, but the dark pants do still take some getting used to. I just keep thinking of SO many horrible small-town high school programs that dressed like that.
QUESTION: Thinking of renting SCHOOL TIES with Brandon Fraser cuz of the old school football unis. Is the movie any good?
—Ricko[/quote]
It’s a great movie indeed. But the football action is probably about 5 minutes total.
Oh, and I love all for Jets looks. Only teams with 2 colors can pull off the monochrome, and the Jets are no exception. As a Packers, and Favre fan, I can’t help but be happy he’s in the AFC(so he can’t beat up on the Packers) and that he’ll be looking sharp in Jets uni’s, one of my favs.
[quote comment=”283740″]
I have always known it’s Black and sliver Teebz, must have had a brain fart on the black and gray comment. I am ashamed on the mistake seeing it’s one of my favorite unis in hockey :( In my defense it was 8am and I was still in zombie mode:)[/quote]
Ironically, it’s 10:30, I’m at work, and I’m still in zombie mode. What does that say about me? Hahaha…
I mailed Paul about this, but maybe someone can help get screen grabs…
USA men vs. Japan in Olympic soccer early this morning (started at 5 a.m. Eastern). USA striker Brian McBride was wearing the 17 jersey.
But, after a corner kick just after 45 minutes, he was knocked down, so the camera stayed with him for a bit. If you follow the shot, he turns, and it’s clear that he’s got 7 on the front and 17 on the back. Does not appear that a 1 fell off.
Very odd.
[quote comment=”283747″]I mailed Paul about this, but maybe someone can help get screen grabs…
USA men vs. Japan in Olympic soccer early this morning (started at 5 a.m. Eastern). USA striker Brian McBride was wearing the 17 jersey.
But, after a corner kick just after 45 minutes, he was knocked down, so the camera stayed with him for a bit. If you follow the shot, he turns, and it’s clear that he’s got 7 on the front and 17 on the back. Does not appear that a 1 fell off.
Very odd.[/quote]
When all else fails, read what people have already written on the topic.
I’m pretty sure that’s not Nolan Ryan. It looks like Terry Puhl (who was a lefty). It also looks like a 2-something on the bill of his helmet; Terry was #21. Review here: link
[quote comment=”283742″]It’s just my opinion, but I doubt that those are actually Nevada’s new helmets.
I know when I played in college, we didn’t put our stripes and decals on until the Thursday before the first game. We went all camp without decals so they didn’t get scatched up before the first game. I’m guessing they will add the Lobo logo at a future date. But I’m just guessing.[/quote]
I think Paul was talking about reflective paint finsih and the silver/gray facemasks. Both changes from last year’s helmet.
reasons why uniwatch is a daily watch: nebraska football, philly unis, 99 as a racer, mistaking sun glasses fro a tube, a terry puhl reference.
[quote comment=”283752″]reasons why uniwatch is a daily watch: nebraska football, philly unis, 99 as a racer, mistaking sun glasses fro a tube, a terry puhl reference.[/quote]
Found a bigger picture of link.
[quote comment=”283682″]Picture Gallery of Wayne Gretzky’s Career
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Tons of uni goodness…. well excpet for the STL unis. LOVE the old school Oilers and Kings unis. Still looking for a Black and Gray Kings jersey for myself…[/quote]
Notice the pic of Gretz and Mess in NYR sweaters – holy spacing issues!!
[quote comment=”283742″]It’s just my opinion, but I doubt that those are actually Nevada’s new helmets.
I know when I played in college, we didn’t put our stripes and decals on until the Thursday before the first game. We went all camp without decals so they didn’t get scatched up before the first game. I’m guessing they will add the Lobo logo at a future date. But I’m just guessing.[/quote]
I would be willing to be that they never add the “Lobo” logo at a future date, since they’re the wolfpack – U of New Mexico uses the Lobo nickname. But in all seriousness, I agree. I think they’re going to add the helmet decals at a later date. But the shells are slightly different with the metallic flake paint instead of the flat navy blue.
[quote comment=”283753″][quote comment=”283752″]reasons why uniwatch is a daily watch: nebraska football, philly unis, 99 as a racer, mistaking sun glasses fro a tube, a terry puhl reference.[/quote]
Found a bigger picture of link.[/quote]
Speaking of WHA, I’m pretty sure the Chicago Cougars jerseys had the three-stripe pattern on the shoulder yoke, too. Either that or there were no stripes on the yoke at all. But the single-stripe version shown in the Ticker is not real. That much I DO know.
Something else to dig for in files, I guess.
—Ricko
1. Kasper and Brenly still talk too damn much. There’s a game going on, you yutzes.
2. Yes, seen lots of pictures of Wayne Gretzky as a Racer. You can find lots of Racers stuff link and here’s a link of his first pro goal (as a Racer).
3. Don’t know why neither the US men nor the US women have their federation crest in its normal position on the chest, but I am trying to find out through USSF contacts.
[quote comment=”283757″]1. Kasper and Brenly still talk too damn much. There’s a game going on, you yutzes.
2. Yes, seen lots of pictures of Wayne Gretzky as a Racer. You can find lots of Racers stuff link and here’s a link of his first pro goal (as a Racer).
3. Don’t know why neither the US men nor the US women have their federation crest in its normal position on the chest, but I am trying to find out through USSF contacts.[/quote]
Good to see that site. I sometimes think folks like to pretend that part of Gretsky’s career never happened.
A little like conveniently forgetting how much fun Steve Young and Jim Kelly (esp. Kelly) were to watch in the USFL.
Joey Porter was wearing those same Steelers pants in the SI preview issue a couple of years ago. I think they are just a practice set.
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As mentioned, last night’s episode of Project Runway challenged the designers is to create an opening ceremonies outfit for the ladies of U.S. Olympic delegation.
Here’s the slide show. Some of these work, some are all-sorts-of-wrong, but at least there are no desginer logos creeping about…
In addition to the discussion of the U.S. soccer uniforms lacking the USA crest, the women’s gymnastics team had podium training last night and didn’t even wear red, white, and blue. They wore hot pink with a teeny tiny American flag on the right forearm. Perhaps these aren’t the true uniforms and just the training uniforms, but I was appalled that they couldn’t even get the colors right, let alone crest.
The men, however, had just red and white (no blue) but had USA on the uniforms. And they’re still wearing footie pajama uniforms that make me giggle every time I see them.
Women gallery link
Men gallery link
Once again, these might not be game-day uniforms and just practice jerseys.
“But I guess he just wasn’t in the mood yesterday.” LOL
Re: Otis Shepard’s Cubs scorecard:
“Blue Valley Butter Is Good Butter”…Why is it that advertsing like that–clear, blatant advertising–looks so good and feels so right, and yet I cringe when a see today’s corporate sponsorship or clothing line symbols all over the place? Is it nostalgia? Or is it the pervasiveness of today’s advertising? Is it style? I’m conused.
er….confused
“Good article here about Michigan’s transition from Nike to Adidas (with thanks to Greg DiLeo)”
Paul,
What will happen with Michigan’s hockey program? adidas doesn’t own a hockey equipment/apparel company as far as I know, nor do they make jerseys, socks, or pants. A quick look through Michigan’s photo galleries shows that they were outfitted fully with Nike/Bauer, so we know they don’t have an independent contract.
Thanks!
[quote comment=”283710″][quote comment=”283696″]The “place called the Armory” is the 168th Street Armory. It is one of the best indoor track facilities and hosts hundreds of high school and college races a year.
The museum there is the national track hall of fame. link
Wow — I’ve lived in NYC for 21 yrs without knowing that was there. A field trip is definitely in order.[/quote]
The Hall opened in early 2004. Before that, it was just a few displays/exhibits about particular athletes who had graced the track over the years (I think; I haven’t been there since winter track season of 2003). The track itself is at least 70 years old.
It seems there is always one Yankee uniform that is missing the armband for Bobby Murcer. Last night, Wilson Betemit’s jersey was without the armband:
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[quote comment=”283728″][quote comment=”283724″][quote comment=”283721″]The US Men had no crest as well. Japan had the ol’ Rising Sun, not the Japan Football Association logo. I believe it is an Olympic rule.
Mentioned above, and I posted in a 2 day old thread about it, but Brian McBride went from 17 to 7 at least for a short while last night, no good photos though.[/quote]
Here’s the thing, though. Argentina, Brazil, and even freakin’ HONDURAS have their Federation crests on their uniforms. Not the United States. Not Italy. Not even Sepp Blatter’s Germany.
I think there’s more to this story. It can’t be an “IOC rule” that keeps a Federation logo off a uniform. What would that do for ice hockey, for example? Would the United States have to remove the flying USA off their jersey?
This should be receiving as much blog coverage as Obama and his USA flag pin! Where are the neocon babblers when you need them the most? Oh, right … they’re working on Paris Hilton.[/quote]
I think what we saw on the South American teams were generic crests, all I have to double check though.
One other Uni-Tid Bit from the US/Japan game: Marvell Wynne had his Jersey ripped around the 30th minute. If you want to see Brian McBride with just the 7 on the front of his shirt, watch the replay on nbcolympics.com, it happens in the 37th minute.[/quote]
If it’s an Olympic rule, that’s news to me. And Argentina. And Brazil. And Honduras.
Scandal! Obama pin! Un-american!
[quote comment=”283762″]”But I guess he just wasn’t in the mood yesterday.”
LOL
Re: Otis Shepard’s Cubs scorecard:
“Blue Valley Butter Is Good Butter”…Why is it that advertsing like that–clear, blatant advertising–looks so good and feels so right, and yet I cringe when a see today’s corporate sponsorship or clothing line symbols all over the place? Is it nostalgia? Or is it the pervasiveness of today’s advertising? Is it style? I’m conused.[/quote]
I swear, we’ve become so accustomed to being bombarded with selling propositions—oblique or direct—that we’ve come to think everything in life must be at that pace. We’re like #5 in SHORT CIRCUIT: “INNNNNput!”
I watch guys take cellphone calls during softball games and think, “Y’know, there really was a time when if no one could contact you for 90 minutes or so the world wouldn’t come to an end.”
Then again, I also knew I guy who used say things like, “Ty Cobb managed to 4,000 frickin’ hits without having frickin’ stripes on his frickin’ shoes!”
Not sure if anyone linked this yet, but the column the day before was in the ticker. It’s the top 10 “worst” c.f. logos.
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Someone on SI.com is asking for uni-help. They are trying to identify if a particular Seattle Mariners cap was used. It’s autographed by Ken Griffey, Jr. and obtained in a 1998 raffle, so we know the when. I don’t think it was a game cap, so might have it been a BP cap, or just a random souvenir stand item?
link
[quote comment=”283764″]”Good article here about Michigan’s transition from Nike to Adidas (with thanks to Greg DiLeo)”
Paul,
What will happen with Michigan’s hockey program? adidas doesn’t own a hockey equipment/apparel company as far as I know, nor do they make jerseys, socks, or pants. A quick look through Michigan’s photo galleries shows that they were outfitted fully with Nike/Bauer, so we know they don’t have an independent contract.
Thanks![/quote]
Adidas does own Reebok. I don’t think it would be a big deal to slap the 3 stripes on a hockey sweater made by RBK.
Tom Shieber –
The Cincinnati Reds have only 8 retired numbers. Joe Nuxhall’s 41 was ceremoniously retired at the beginning of the season. Jeremy Affeldt is wearing 41 this season.
[quote comment=”283771″][quote comment=”283764″]”Good article here about Michigan’s transition from Nike to Adidas (with thanks to Greg DiLeo)”
Paul,
What will happen with Michigan’s hockey program? adidas doesn’t own a hockey equipment/apparel company as far as I know, nor do they make jerseys, socks, or pants. A quick look through Michigan’s photo galleries shows that they were outfitted fully with Nike/Bauer, so we know they don’t have an independent contract.
Thanks![/quote]
Adidas does own Reebok. I don’t think it would be a big deal to slap the 3 stripes on a hockey sweater made by RBK.[/quote]
The Wisconsin Badgers wear adidas sweaters.
[quote comment=”283773″][quote comment=”283771″][quote comment=”283764″]”Good article here about Michigan’s transition from Nike to Adidas (with thanks to Greg DiLeo)”
Paul,
What will happen with Michigan’s hockey program? adidas doesn’t own a hockey equipment/apparel company as far as I know, nor do they make jerseys, socks, or pants. A quick look through Michigan’s photo galleries shows that they were outfitted fully with Nike/Bauer, so we know they don’t have an independent contract.
Thanks![/quote]
Adidas does own Reebok. I don’t think it would be a big deal to slap the 3 stripes on a hockey sweater made by RBK.[/quote]
The Wisconsin Badgers wear adidas sweaters.[/quote]
I was looking through some of Wisconsin’s photos, and it looks like they wear adidas sweaters and socks, yes, but they have a Nike/Bauer equipment license (instead of Rbk), and either a Nike/Bauer or Easton stick license. Will Michigan go the same way?
Thanks all!
[quote comment=”283772″]Tom Shieber –
The Cincinnati Reds have only 8 retired numbers. Joe Nuxhall’s 41 was ceremoniously retired at the beginning of the season. Jeremy Affeldt is wearing 41 this season.[/quote]
Nuxy’s 41 is being “honored” by the Reds but not officially retired. I guess that means the jersey in the outfield is coming down after the season.
You can call it 9 retired numbers though because 14 is unofficially retired for Pete.
Michigan looks as good in Adidas as Brett Farve in a Jets jersey, it just doesnt look right. At least the swoosh on the neck was more subtle than that hideous 3 stripe logo.
[quote comment=”283755″][quote comment=”283742″]It’s just my opinion, but I doubt that those are actually Nevada’s new helmets.
I know when I played in college, we didn’t put our stripes and decals on until the Thursday before the first game. We went all camp without decals so they didn’t get scatched up before the first game. I’m guessing they will add the Lobo logo at a future date. But I’m just guessing.[/quote]
I would be willing to be that they never add the “Lobo” logo at a future date, since they’re the wolfpack – U of New Mexico uses the Lobo nickname. But in all seriousness, I agree. I think they’re going to add the helmet decals at a later date. But the shells are slightly different with the metallic flake paint instead of the flat navy blue.[/quote]
Good Call! I don’t know what the hell I was thinking.
Fernando Tatis was having some “dot” problems last night:
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That’s not Nolan Ryan in the Astros photo; rather, it’s Terry Puhl, a left-handed hitter.
The Eugene Emeralds (long-season A affiliate of the San Diego Padres, link, wore pink unis last night. Spent the last hour trying to find a picture on the news, the newspapers, etc, can’t find one. It did happen though.
[quote comment=”283778″]Fernando Tatis was having some “dot” problems last night:
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Uh-oh…DOT creep.
Does anyone know when the NHL will publicly display the new third jerseys?
Hey – I was just reading the E-ticket feature about Fred Lewis on ESPN.com. This from the near-bottom of the article….
“And if you ever see Lewis on the field gesture to his chest, tapping it thrice, you’ll know why. “Before each game, I pray,” he says, “and I write ‘RIP 3 Love’ inside my hat in remembrance of them. It lets me know they are never forgotten. It lets me know where I came from.”
I don’t know if the writing’s on the underbrim or in the cap itself.
Good article…I feel bad for the guy.
[quote comment=”283782″]Does anyone know when the NHL will publicly display the new third jerseys?[/quote]
Each team will probably do them seperately. I wouldn’t expect them to get released until closer to preseason. I’ve only heard about BUF and CAR having release dates in late September.
[quote comment=”283720″][quote comment=”283700″]photoshops of brett
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But you’ll notice whoever did the photoshop wasn’t smart enough to remove the Lambeau Field patch from Brett’s left shoulder.[/quote]
If you are talking about #4, they aren’t smart because the striping is still Pack-style.
[quote comment=”283778″]Fernando Tatis was having some “dot” problems last night:
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Does he wear his hat tilted to the side? He could be trying to maintain the look of the hat…
[quote comment=”283769″]Not sure if anyone linked this yet, but the column the day before was in the ticker. It’s the top 10 “worst” c.f. logos.
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Considering the Louisiana Tech logo this idiot is using is not the logo that is currently being used, or has ever been an approved logo, he does not know what he is talking about in respect to our State-T.
The Durham Bulls did have a shiny uni in the early 80’s. I have an old Inside Sports mag with the article. I will try to find it tonigt and scan and email tomorrow
North Carolina will hand out Duke blue colored t-shirts to fans in the “Tar Pit”. A Carolina fan wearing Duke blue??? Blasphemy!!!
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[quote comment=”283770″]Someone on SI.com is asking for uni-help. They are trying to identify if a particular Seattle Mariners cap was used. It’s autographed by Ken Griffey, Jr. and obtained in a 1998 raffle, so we know the when. I don’t think it was a game cap, so might have it been a BP cap, or just a random souvenir stand item?
link
My guess is it’s a souvenir hat. The M’s had that logo on the alternate cap with the silver bill they wore from ’97-’99, and then on the mesh/coolbase BP hats MLB started rolling out in 2000, but I can’t recall ever seeing an authentic hat like the one in the photo.
It would be nice to see the back of the crown and the inside to help make a definitive judgement. Oh well!
They also have some outdated logos on the Top 20 Coolest College Football logos.
Temple and Rice no longer officially uses their owl logos, Iowa State just changed theirs and Alabama’s no longer using the elephant as a primary.
[quote comment=”283789″]North Carolina will hand out Duke blue colored t-shirts to fans in the “Tar Pit”. A Carolina fan wearing Duke blue??? Blasphemy!!!
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NOTHING escapes the ever-increasing fear of wearing a “non-testosteronal” color, does it.
Soon every team every where will wear Black or Navy (maybe Forest or Maroon) and the world will once again be safe for all the Bubbas and Larry the Cable Guys incapable of getting their opinion from anywhere but someone else, and who think masculinity is measured by the size of a man’s, um…gun rack.
Jeez, talk about insecure men.
(Oh, you can argue, but you know I’m right, LOL)
—Ricko
[quote comment=”283792″][quote comment=”283789″]North Carolina will hand out Duke blue colored t-shirts to fans in the “Tar Pit”. A Carolina fan wearing Duke blue??? Blasphemy!!!
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NOTHING escapes the ever-increasing fear of wearing a “non-testosteronal” color, does it.
Soon every team every where will wear Black or Navy (maybe Forest or Maroon) and the world will once again be safe for all the Bubbas and Larry the Cable Guys incapable of getting their opinion from anywhere but someone else, and who think masculinity is measured by the size of a man’s, um…gun rack.
Jeez, talk about insecure men.
(Oh, you can argue, but you know I’m right, LOL)
—Ricko[/quote]
As a former resident of North Carolina, I can tell you that the shade of color is not the problem. Tarheel blue has non “non-testosteronal” qualities. You’ll see F-350 dually pick-ups with gun racks painted in Tarheel blue.
Tarheel fans wearing Duke blue is like a Packers fan wearing a new Favre Jets jersey to the first game.
[quote comment=”283793″][quote comment=”283792″][quote comment=”283789″]North Carolina will hand out Duke blue colored t-shirts to fans in the “Tar Pit”. A Carolina fan wearing Duke blue??? Blasphemy!!!
link
NOTHING escapes the ever-increasing fear of wearing a “non-testosteronal” color, does it.
Soon every team every where will wear Black or Navy (maybe Forest or Maroon) and the world will once again be safe for all the Bubbas and Larry the Cable Guys incapable of getting their opinion from anywhere but someone else, and who think masculinity is measured by the size of a man’s, um…gun rack.
Jeez, talk about insecure men.
(Oh, you can argue, but you know I’m right, LOL)
—Ricko[/quote]
As a former resident of North Carolina, I can tell you that the shade of color is not the problem. Tarheel blue has non “non-testosteronal” qualities. You’ll see F-350 dually pick-ups with gun racks painted in Tarheel blue.
Tarheel fans wearing Duke blue is like a Packers fan wearing a new Favre Jets jersey to the first game.[/quote]
Sorry, wasn’t picking on NC, just observing an overall trend in both uniforms and men’s clothing. I guess what I’m saying relative to NC is, I absolutely don’t get why the color change…unless is part of the trend I’m talking about. It makes no sense otherwise.
[quote comment=”283790″][quote comment=”283770″]Someone on SI.com is asking for uni-help. They are trying to identify if a particular Seattle Mariners cap was used. It’s autographed by Ken Griffey, Jr. and obtained in a 1998 raffle, so we know the when. I don’t think it was a game cap, so might have it been a BP cap, or just a random souvenir stand item?
link
My guess is it’s a souvenir hat. The M’s had that logo on the alternate cap with the silver bill they wore from ’97-’99, and then on the mesh/coolbase BP hats MLB started rolling out in 2000, but I can’t recall ever seeing an authentic hat like the one in the photo.
It would be nice to see the back of the crown and the inside to help make a definitive judgement. Oh well![/quote]
From memory, I think it was worn with teal alternate jerseys at home…and may also have been a BP hat.
Must be a Mariner expert here who’ll nail for you, though.
re: Mariners hat. You’re right. Alternate cap hat had silver visor. If I could delete my post I would.
HAH good article. I was actually watching that game but on the Houston side. I know the Astros have Velcro. I have an Authentic Biggio Stros jersey that has velcro in the gap. Its pretty nifty. The Yankees also don’t have a pro button, can’t believe they missed that.
I think this whole “crestless jersey” deal has “turf war” written all over it.
The USOC doesn’t want USSF stealing its limelight, and it probably doesn’t want the swimmers and the shotgun shooters and the weightlifters demanding to have the crest of their organizing bodis on their uniforms.
In response, the USSF appears to have said “fine, then we’ll go with blank shirts.”
Or else it’s all a Nike plot.
1. I really like that 2008 World Series logo. It’s by far the best one since ’03. The color scheme, and use of the words “Fall Classic” is pretty cool. I’d kill for a Yankee cap with that logo on the side, however it really looks like that’s not going to happen.
2. As a die hard Patriots fan living in NY, I’m ALREADY sick of hearing about Favre. Though a Brett Titans jersey will look quite nice.
I present the 2008 Houston Cougars… Nike-fied.
Just about what I expected.
[quote comment=”283798″]I think this whole “crestless jersey” deal has “turf war” written all over it.
The USOC doesn’t want USSF stealing its limelight, and it probably doesn’t want the swimmers and the shotgun shooters and the weightlifters demanding to have the crest of their organizing bodis on their uniforms.
In response, the USSF appears to have said “fine, then we’ll go with blank shirts.”
Or else it’s all a Nike plot.[/quote]
Then it’s happening in most countries. Some had “Olympic” crests(with the 5 rings), Some just flags. I believe we are the only Country going in without anything whatsoever.
[quote comment=”283703″]Getcha New York Bretts jersey here..getcha Bretts jersey here…
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That jersey said “0” on it when that link went up- now it says ‘4.’ Have a nice day, Jeff Garcia; you are now longer dead man walking.
Rats, trying again…
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So how do we really know our Olympic athletes are not playing for Nike instead of the US?
[quote comment=”283804″]So how do we really know our Olympic athletes are not playing for Nike instead of the US?[/quote]
Someone else pointed out the Hot Pink gymnastics wear. It was Adidas, a black Adidas logo was just above the hip…larger then the US flag on the wrist.
I’m currently watching the US-Japan game on DVR and they had highlights of the other matches at halftime. Interesting that Belgium is wearing Adidas jerseys with the Belgian NOC’s logo, while the Belgian FA has a deal with Nike.
I remember seeing Spain-Saudi Arabia in Orlando during the Atlanta ’96 tournament and Spain’s jersey’s featured the Spanish NOC logo. Argentina’s also done this during recent Olympics.
I’d have to assume they made this mandatory for this year, but have yet to find anything online that says so (other than something posted on here months ago about Japan not being able to have their FA logo on the jersey).
[quote comment=”283798″]I think this whole “crestless jersey” deal has “turf war” written all over it.
The USOC doesn’t want USSF stealing its limelight, and it probably doesn’t want the swimmers and the shotgun shooters and the weightlifters demanding to have the crest of their organizing bodis on their uniforms.
In response, the USSF appears to have said “fine, then we’ll go with blank shirts.”
Or else it’s all a Nike plot.[/quote]
That’s loyalty for you. Back when the USSF was in dire financial straits (pre- World Cup ’94), they were more than happy to use the USOC’s facilities in Colorado Springs. Regardless, a turf war doesn’t seem likely as Nike is providing the uniforms for the entire Olympic team this year.
Thunder? Are you fucking kidding me. What a lame team name. Its a god damn SOUND, but how much you wanna bet the logo is a Lightning Bolt? Not many of those in Pro Sports.
[quote comment=”283806″]I’m currently watching the US-Japan game on DVR and they had highlights of the other matches at halftime. Interesting that Belgium is wearing Adidas jerseys with the Belgian NOC’s logo, while the Belgian FA has a deal with Nike.
I remember seeing Spain-Saudi Arabia in Orlando during the Atlanta ’96 tournament and Spain’s jersey’s featured the Spanish NOC logo. Argentina’s also done this during recent Olympics.
I’d have to assume they made this mandatory for this year, but have yet to find anything online that says so (other than something posted on here months ago about Japan not being able to have their FA logo on the jersey).[/quote]
It appears that Argentina, Brazil, Honduras and Cameroon have their FA badges. Argentina and Cameroon also have Olympic badges(Argentina on the sleeve, Cameroon on the chest).
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It appears that Argentina, Brazil, Honduras and Cameroon have their FA badges. Argentina and Cameroon also have Olympic badges(Argentina on the sleeve, Cameroon on the chest).[/quote]
Much like the stars on jerseys in Europe to signify championships, those with the Olympic badges are former Olympic gold medalists in futbol (Argentina in 2004, Cameroon in 2000).
I’m not certain this is the case, but it appears to be the most logical answer.
Make it stop!!
SportsCenter just showed a “Live!” shot of an empty chair at Jets HQ (prior to the start of the Favre introduction news conference).
Watching Nigeria-Netherlands now…both teams have NOC badges.
[quote comment=”283789″]North Carolina will hand out Duke blue colored t-shirts to fans in the “Tar Pit”. A Carolina fan wearing Duke blue??? Blasphemy!!!
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That article is from last year, actually, but it’s not surprising because the rumor is that Butch Davis doesn’t like Carolina blue and wants to introduce a navy jersey. This blog post speculates that it’s an homage to the Choo Choo Justice era:
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The navy jersey might look something like this:
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Much like the stars on jerseys in Europe to signify championships, those with the Olympic badges are former Olympic gold medalists in futbol (Argentina in 2004, Cameroon in 2000).
I’m not certain this is the case, but it appears to be the most logical answer.[/quote]
And in the case of the Argentines, in the past they’ve worn their NOC logo on the chest in place of the Argentine FA logo. If they’re going with something on the sleeve, this would probably fit your theory.
Hello everyone,
I just saw it for a split second, but it appeared that at the Favre press conference one of the NFL Network microphones had the old logo and the other had the new one. Did anybody else see that, or am I crazy?
-Bryan
Upon further review, the logo on the sleeve of the Argentine soccer jersey is the Argentine NOC’s logo.
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Nice catch by the KC guy with the clear sticker on his helmet. Must be a defensive player
Also, Cameroon has had two badges on their shirt for several years, a lion over the heart and (typically) their FA badge on the right hand side of the chest. Here, the FA logo has been replaced by the NOC one. Korea, meanwhile, has their FA logo.
So in short, we have Australia, Belgium, Cameroon, Cote d’Ivoire, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, and Serbia with their NOC badges on their shirts. China is wearing their flag, which is what they always wear. Argentina, Brazil, Honduras, and Korea have their FA badge. And the US somehow missed the boat entirely. Sigh…
Pardon me if it was mentioned after the HOF game, but I just noticed, watching the Giants and Jets games, that the green sticker on the QBs’ helmets now have the NFL logo inside of them with a line underneath.
[quote comment=”283784″][quote comment=”283782″]Does anyone know when the NHL will publicly display the new third jerseys?[/quote]
Each team will probably do them seperately. I wouldn’t expect them to get released until closer to preseason. I’ve only heard about BUF and CAR having release dates in late September.[/quote]
Thanks.
[quote comment=”283799″]As a die hard Patriots fan living in NY, I’m ALREADY sick of hearing about Favre.[/quote]
Now you know how the rest of us felt last year hearing all things Patriots.
Watching a LLWS qualifier game – New Hampshire vs. Mass. NH has matching uniforms, while the MA players are wearing their individual team uniforms. So we have one kid wearing a Giants uniform with a gold batting helmet, followed by a White Sox uniform with a silver helmet… Ugh.
EA Sports has announced that Brett Favre, via a free download, will be added to the Jets roster but the cover will remain Brett Favre, Packers version.
I’m firing up the bandwagon of hate for the new leg stripe on the NFL refs’ pants. Who’s with me?
[quote comment=”283821″][quote comment=”283799″]As a die hard Patriots fan living in NY, I’m ALREADY sick of hearing about Favre.[/quote]
Now you know how the rest of us felt last year hearing all things Patriots.[/quote]
AMEN!
Jason Taylor spent way too much time on Dancing with the Stars….
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[quote comment=”283778″]Fernando Tatis was having some “dot” problems last night:
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i think that means he has the radio transmitter, right?
[quote comment=”283815″]Hello everyone,
I just saw it for a split second, but it appeared that at the Favre press conference one of the NFL Network microphones had the old logo and the other had the new one. Did anybody else see that, or am I crazy?
-Bryan[/quote]
Not crazy at all Bryan because I noticed it too. And the only reason I didn’t mention it already is because I was sure someone would have posted it on here. Is the NFL having an identity crisis?
As a side note, it goes without saying the being from Wisconsin I am a die hard Packers fan, always have been, and always will. (Hell, my wedding is at Lambeau Field 4th of July 2009), so is it wrong of me to get a Favre Jets jersey???
[quote comment=”283742″]It’s just my opinion, but I doubt that those are actually Nevada’s new helmets.
I know when I played in college, we didn’t put our stripes and decals on until the Thursday before the first game. We went all camp without decals so they didn’t get scatched up before the first game. I’m guessing they will add the Lobo logo at a future date. But I’m just guessing.[/quote]
I think the more notable change with the helmets is the color tint and the new grey facemask – agree they will surely be putting the decal back on…
[quote comment=”283803″]Rats, trying again…
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*sigh*
Dreadful stuff, generic Nike at it’s worst. And who picked that god awful new shade of red? What was wrong with the scarlet we’ve always worn?
[quote comment=”283830″][quote comment=”283803″]Rats, trying again…
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*sigh*
Dreadful stuff, generic Nike at it’s worst. And who picked that god awful new shade of red? What was wrong with the scarlet we’ve always worn?[/quote]
I hate the piping and all the busy logos and patches. But I like how the blue is gone (blue is NOT our color). And putting tv numbers on the shoulders instead of that ‘wet cat’ logo is an improvement. I’ve given up on seeing anything like we had in Bill Yeoman’s days. And that’s too bad.
[quote comment=”283828″][quote comment=”283815″]Hello everyone,
I just saw it for a split second, but it appeared that at the Favre press conference one of the NFL Network microphones had the old logo and the other had the new one. Did anybody else see that, or am I crazy?
-Bryan[/quote]
Not crazy at all Bryan because I noticed it too. And the only reason I didn’t mention it already is because I was sure someone would have posted it on here. Is the NFL having an identity crisis?
As a side note, it goes without saying the being from Wisconsin I am a die hard Packers fan, always have been, and always will. (Hell, my wedding is at Lambeau Field 4th of July 2009), so is it wrong of me to get a Favre Jets jersey???[/quote]
In the Madden 09 Demo, the midfield logo is the new logo. The only thing you can play is a recreation of the SuperBowl from Manning’s throw to Tyree onward. Manning is wearing the wrong helmet and facemask though. He is wearing the combo his brother uses. Also, Shockey stiil on Giants, Manningham on the Giants, and can’t bring in Tyree. There was also many more uni issues that previewers noticed. Most of them are mentioned here: link and here: link
PS:Congrats on the Wedding
Oh and Paul: Congrats on the Mets winning in blue!
In honor of the Lions’ 75th season
of suckingin Detroit, they’re wearing a patch on their left shoulder on all unis, even the throwbacks. Pic of logo shortly.[quote comment=”283819″]Pardon me if it was mentioned after the HOF game, but I just noticed, watching the Giants and Jets games, that the green sticker on the QBs’ helmets now have the NFL logo inside of them with a line underneath.[/quote]
The line is actually a lightning bolt: link
As pointed out…
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…the Lions’ 75th Anniversary
of Matt Millen’s suckingin Motown logo.If this has been asked before, I apologize: Are their different rules about jersey numbers in the preseason? I just saw a highlight of David Carr throwing a TD to a receiver wearing #5 for the Jints.
One more time with the Lions’ 75th season
of Matt Mullen’s useless placement of black in the Honolulu Blue and Silverseason in Detroit logo:link
Hope this works…
[quote comment=”283821″][quote comment=”283799″]“As a die hard Patriots fan living in NY, I’m ALREADY sick of hearing about Favre.”[/quote]
“Now you know how the rest of us felt last year hearing all things Patriots.”[/quote]
POST OF THE DAY WINNER!
That is all.
[quote comment=”283837″]If this has been asked before, I apologize: Are their different rules about jersey numbers in the preseason? I just saw a highlight of David Carr throwing a TD to a receiver wearing #5 for the Jints.[/quote]
Rules are lax in training camp because of the number of players on a roster. You’ll see WRs in single digits.
Watching the south west regional of the llws and the team from lake charles Louisiana is wearing under armour T-shirts with their name in script on the front with a cardinals esque 2 cartoon birds on a bat. the team they are playing from texas is sporting traditional pin striped unis. never seen it done before. Could anyone get a screen grab. Thanks
[quote comment=”283836″]As pointed out…
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…the Lions’ 75th Anniversary
of Matt Millen’s suckingin Motown logo.[/quote]You know, I don’t really have an opinion either way on the Lions as a franchise..but man that black looks WRONGWRONGWRONGWRONGWRONG on there unis. Go back to the way they were.
Or put some purple in just to p*ss off Lukas.
[quote comment=”283828″][quote comment=”283815″]Hello everyone,
I just saw it for a split second, but it appeared that at the Favre press conference one of the NFL Network microphones had the old logo and the other had the new one. Did anybody else see that, or am I crazy?
-Bryan[/quote]
Not crazy at all Bryan because I noticed it too. And the only reason I didn’t mention it already is because I was sure someone would have posted it on here. Is the NFL having an identity crisis?
As a side note, it goes without saying the being from Wisconsin I am a die hard Packers fan, always have been, and always will. (Hell, my wedding is at Lambeau Field 4th of July 2009), so is it wrong of me to get a Favre Jets jersey???[/quote]
Of course not. For the Packers opening home game- how many Jets 4 jerseys do YOU think will be in the stands? Have a nice day, Aaron.
Last post—bedtime.
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If you haven’t checked out this site–its worth it. VERY well done.
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Now, we have gone through the VT jersey ad nauseum, but I’d figure I’d share this… I just got the VT Bookstore magazine in the mail recently, and the jersey they are selling is a style that they have never, and will never wear. In previous years, this design has been correct, but they screwed the pooch on this one, and I can’t even begin to describe how or why…
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Bottom left corner shows a maroon jersey with the piping of the 2004-2007 jerseys with the number style and coloring of what was worn before then with the maroon gap between the white and orange, and whats even more puzzling is the orange sleeve numbers which have NEVER been worn with that design…
For the official Virginia Tech Bookstore catalog, thats quite an oversight…
Ahhh… that was the direct link to the item they’re selling… here is a jpg of the actual page itself..
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[quote comment=”283813″][quote comment=”283789″]North Carolina will hand out Duke blue colored t-shirts to fans in the “Tar Pit”. A Carolina fan wearing Duke blue??? Blasphemy!!!
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That article is from last year, actually, but it’s not surprising because the rumor is that Butch Davis doesn’t like Carolina blue and wants to introduce a navy jersey. This blog post speculates that it’s an homage to the Choo Choo Justice era:
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The navy jersey might look something like this:
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The navy jersey is a huge upgrade. I hope they wear Carolina blue pants with it, with navy pants for the road.
[quote comment=”283832″][quote comment=”283828″][quote comment=”283815″]Hello everyone,
I just saw it for a split second, but it appeared that at the Favre press conference one of the NFL Network microphones had the old logo and the other had the new one. Did anybody else see that, or am I crazy?
-Bryan[/quote]
Not crazy at all Bryan because I noticed it too. And the only reason I didn’t mention it already is because I was sure someone would have posted it on here. Is the NFL having an identity crisis?
As a side note, it goes without saying the being from Wisconsin I am a die hard Packers fan, always have been, and always will. (Hell, my wedding is at Lambeau Field 4th of July 2009), so is it wrong of me to get a Favre Jets jersey???[/quote]
In the Madden 09 Demo, the midfield logo is the new logo. The only thing you can play is a recreation of the SuperBowl from Manning’s throw to Tyree onward. Manning is wearing the wrong helmet and facemask though. He is wearing the combo his brother uses. Also, Shockey stiil on Giants, Manningham on the Giants, and can’t bring in Tyree. There was also many more uni issues that previewers noticed. Most of them are mentioned here: link and here: link
PS:Congrats on the Wedding[/quote]
Thanks for the congrats. I knew that when I got a girl to commit to getting married at Lambeau Field, she was a keeper! Plus it’s 4th of July, so there will be fireworks. It will be kind of weird losing my freedom as a single man on Independence Day.
It seemed like the Giants on Thursday were wearing slightly different jerseys similar to the one Amani Toomer sampled in the Cowboys playoff game last year. Can we get Joe Skiba in on this?
[quote comment=”283688″]Note to Jets: Please, please, please do NOT wear the green & green combo. Really have no desire to see what Brett Favre looked like if he’d played in the early 60’s CFL, the Arena league or for some rural, backwater high school without the manpower or budget to keep white pants clean.[/quote]
ABSOLUTELY TOTALLY DITTO !!!!!
[quote comment=”283704″]….and as of 8 am EDT, link is totally non-responsive. It seems people will do anything to see a J-E-T-S Favre #4, even if it is just a replica. Apparently, the site had it up for sale by midnight last night.[/quote]
Somewhere in America a pack rat, in his garage or storage, has a couple of dozen of those $19.99 Glenn Foley #4 Jets authentics from 2001 that he bought off of the bargain rack and will finally be able to sell – after removing the Foley nameplate.
Behind every jersey fortune there is a patience, fortune, the ability to withstand the taunts and aggravation of the wife that wants the jerseys gone, and the implacable desire to purchase everything on sale no matter how useless at the time !!!
link, the IOC does not allow national governing bodies to display their crests. Teams that do have the crest are subject to fines by the IOC.
[quote comment=”283735″][quote comment=”283726″][quote comment=”283688″]Note to Jets: Please, please, please do NOT wear the green & green combo. Really have no desire to see what Brett Favre looked like if he’d played in the early 60’s CFL, the Arena league or for some rural, backwater high school without the manpower or budget to keep white pants clean.[/quote]
OH Please. The green and green FANTASTIC. Best Jets combo!!![/quote]
Nope. Looks like East Podunk High, especially to those of us who were around for the days when only top line programs had the wherewithall to afford the luxury of white pants.
(Actually, and I’m sure this is part of the trend toward dark pants, the new turfs made from tires get hundreds of little black pills–or even more bits of fake green grass–all over them, and the damn things don’t come out in the laundry. Gotta pick those suckers off by hand. I know, I play softball on a turf like that all winter long under a local high school’s air-supported-dome football field. So I can understand that white pants might remain a pain, just in a different way.)
I realize things change, but the dark pants do still take some getting used to. I just keep thinking of SO many horrible small-town high school programs that dressed like that.
QUESTION: Thinking of renting SCHOOL TIES with Brandon Fraser cuz of the old school football unis. Is the movie any good?
—Ricko[/quote]
Ricko,
The movie is pretty good, it’s watchable, but the uniforms make the movie (for me) the very best vintage/throwback football movie made in color.
Betemit link again Thursday night.
Do the Yankees even have Cool-base jerseys? It doesn’t seem like they wore them in Texas, despite the heat.
[quote comment=”283855″]Betemit link again Thursday night.
Do the Yankees even have Cool-base jerseys? It doesn’t seem like they wore them in Texas, despite the heat.[/quote]
As far as I know, the Yankees have NEVER worn cool base jerseys during a game. The do sell them though, like anything else….
[quote comment=”283821″][quote comment=”283799″]As a die hard Patriots fan living in NY, I’m ALREADY sick of hearing about Favre.[/quote]
Now you know how the rest of us felt last year hearing all things Patriots.[/quote]
LMFAO, totally deserved that one.
[quote comment=”283828″][quote comment=”283815″]Hello everyone,
I just saw it for a split second, but it appeared that at the Favre press conference one of the NFL Network microphones had the old logo and the other had the new one. Did anybody else see that, or am I crazy?
-Bryan[/quote]
Not crazy at all Bryan because I noticed it too. And the only reason I didn’t mention it already is because I was sure someone would have posted it on here. Is the NFL having an identity crisis?
As a side note, it goes without saying the being from Wisconsin I am a die hard Packers fan, always have been, and always will. (Hell, my wedding is at Lambeau Field 4th of July 2009), so is it wrong of me to get a Favre Jets jersey???[/quote]
Not at all.
I don’t really buy jerseys for teams other than the Yankees or Patriots, however I came very close to breaking that rule for Drew Bledsoe (Childhood idol) . I was never able to find a Bills one (this was before I shopped online) and I DESPISE the Cowboys. In any case, I always support ex-players who were favorites of mine. Hell, my favorite Pats jersey is still my away wight, on-field authentic Lawyer Milloy.