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Hologram: check.

Bar code: check.

Coming off the DL to find half your teammates traded: check.

Wait, that was just C.C. Sabathia and Casey Blake. But man, with C.C. gone I bet it seems like there’s room in the clubhouse for an extra four or five guys. At least the September callups will have room to roam.

Conversely, I wonder if the postgame spread in Milwaukee had to be expanded? — Bryan

 
  
 
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    My brother and I jokingly called CC Sabathia “3C”, because he was pushing three bills

    link

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?

    I bought a new 5950 yesterday, and had to rip off the hologram within about 2 minutes. So annoying up there in the very top of your vision.

    Looks like the Vikings will be wearing throwbacks for at least one game again this year — note the gray facemasks….

    link

    Yeah — at least they’ll look good in one game this year.

    [quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]
    Yes and no

    Maybe Paul would like link version of the Mets’ black hats better… but since link won the game for the Cards with a two-run bomb in the 14th, maybe not… ;-)

    [quote comment=”282074″]Maybe Paul would like link version of the Mets’ black hats better… but since link won the game for the Cards with a two-run bomb in the 14th, maybe not… ;-)[/quote]

    I saw that last night, thought they looked like a little league team haha.

    On a side note, I always thought that the Indians should have used their alternate cap for the Stars-and-Stripes cap, that way it looked like the colbert report logo. anyone else agree with me on that?

    [quote comment=”282071″]I bought a new 5950 yesterday, and had to rip off the hologram within about 2 minutes. So annoying up there in the very top of your vision.[/quote]
    Does anyone know if there is truth to this, I was told that the “style” of keeping the stickers on the hat and not bending the brim began because people would buy hats, wear them once, then return them

    [quote comment=”282073″][quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]
    Yes and no[/quote]
    Don’t think that could happen anyway. NFL third jerseys, with the exception of throwbacks, have to have the same style as the primary colored or white jersey, with the difference being a color swap where a non-dominant team color becomes dominant.
    For example, the Buccaneers could have an orange, pewter, or black jersey, but it would have to have the varsity font and the pirate ship patches like the others.
    The reason for this is because there are only 16 regular season games. It’s a way of trying to preserve team identity while allowing for extra merchandise sales at the same time.

    Speaking of alternate jerseys, what about Phils v. Braves yesterday?

    Cole Hamels lookin’ classy:
    link

    Mike Hampton lookin’ something else:
    link

    [quote comment=”282079″]Speaking of alternate jerseys, what about Phils v. Braves yesterday?

    Cole Hamels lookin’ classy:
    link

    Did the Phils change the color of their blue lids? I don’t recall them being quite that dark earlier in the season.

    I love the phillies alt’s, god to finally see them live at a game the other week, definatly my favorite hat to wear, and ye awithin 1 minute or so, I took off all the stickers, and curved the brim.

    Did anyone see Hanley Ramirez’s really weird looking glove yesterday? I only got a couple of looks at it and it was really brightly colored.

    [quote comment=”282079″]Mike Hampton lookin’ something else:
    link

    The fact that it’s a picture in 2008 of Mike Hampton actually throwing a pitch is something else!

    [quote comment=”282079″]Speaking of alternate jerseys, what about Phils v. Braves yesterday?

    Cole Hamels lookin’ classy:
    link

    Mike Hampton lookin’ something else:
    link
    Is Hammels wearing a regular brown belt? It sure doesn’t look like a baseball belt.

    Seriously Brian? Making fun of the way that 24 year old professional athletes wear their uniforms has got to be a NEW low for you.

    [/sarcasm]

    Keep up the good work Bryan. You don’t deserve have the crap people give you.

    Kumasi Asante Kotoko, who usually wear link, decided on link for their CAF Confederations Cup campaign. Strange choice! Not quite as weird as when the Fabu chose to wear yellow in the 2004 CAF Confederations Cup finals but we all know link don’t we?

    I’m sorry, but I completely missed the point of today’s topic. What exactly are you trying to get across here Bryan? The only “uniform” related sentence was about the hat.

    I’m lost, can anyone catch me up here?

    I’m catching the Royals for the first time in their powder blue alts. I’m a little conflicted. The reincarnation, link , looks OK, but I’m still a fan of the original, link . But if they went back to the originals, the new baggy style would look just awful.

    I don’t know if anyone’s seen this uniform before, but as I was searching for a picture of the Astros’ tequila sunrise uniforms, I came across link of Doug Rader from (supposedly) 1975. I’m a huge Astros fan and I’ve never seen these unis before. If anyone has any info that’s willing to share, I’d be interested to know.

    link of Cliff Johnson in the same uni.

    [quote comment=”282092″]I don’t know if anyone’s seen this uniform before, but as I was searching for a picture of the Astros’ tequila sunrise uniforms, I came across link of Doug Rader from (supposedly) 1975. I’m a huge Astros fan and I’ve never seen these unis before. If anyone has any info that’s willing to share, I’d be interested to know.

    link of Cliff Johnson in the same uni.[/quote]
    Red sleeves, red hat, sansabelts…that picture is from 1972, 73, or 74.
    link.

    The baseball pants people here sometimes refer to as “pajama bottoms” look really comfortable. I wish they made dress pants out of the same material. Can anyone confirm or deny that they are in fact as comfortable as they look?

    Well, those jerseys were theoretically from May 31, 1975 when the Astros dropped 12 in the 8th inning against the Phillies en route to a 15-3 victory. It’s totally possible they were still left around from 1974 because in that jersey timeline 1975 was the dawn (no pun intended) of the tequila sunrise jerseys.

    [quote comment=”282095″]Well, those jerseys were theoretically from May 31, 1975 [/quote]
    Can’t be. They played at Philadelphia on May 31, 1975. They were at the Mets on 5/31/74.

    They were, however, at the Cubs on May 31, 1973. Doug Rader played 3rd and was 0-for-5

    Rays are wearing batting practice shirts today. Maybe if they’d worn real unis, they’d have understood that the game actually started.

    [quote comment=”282094″]The baseball pants people here sometimes refer to as “pajama bottoms” look really comfortable. I wish they made dress pants out of the same material. Can anyone confirm or deny that they are in fact as comfortable as they look?[/quote]

    They’re comfortable, but I find myself pulling the legs upwards before running in order to have some movement in them. They’re like wearing any other sort of baseball pants except they don’t end at the ankle.

    As for the look, they’re ok, but I still prefer the stirrups/high socks look.

    [quote comment=”282082″]Did anyone see Hanley Ramirez’s really weird looking glove yesterday? I only got a couple of looks at it and it was really brightly colored.[/quote]
    My friend was talking about it but we cant find a good picture of it

    At first I thought it was just the lighting and the belt was the right color red, but I think it is in fact brown. Seriously, Hamels, why?

    Nice eyes, Kevin.

    [quote comment=”282094″]The baseball pants people here sometimes refer to as “pajama bottoms” look really comfortable. I wish they made dress pants out of the same material. Can anyone confirm or deny that they are in fact as comfortable as they look?[/quote]

    I have a pair for the wooden bat league I was in and they are extremely comfortable. This being said, I go with those instead of the traditional look because I can’t find regular baseball pants in my size with enough give to run and slide without ripping them. The downfall of the pajama bottoms are that there is nothing keeping your socks up so I found myself pulling my socks up more often.

    Went to the Phils – Mets game last Tuesday (you know, the one where the Phils came back to win in the top of the 9th) with my buddy Skip, and after looking at the pictures I realized Skippy could be Paul’s long lost brother. Judge for yourself:

    Me and Skippy – link

    Paul – link

    I came across some pro beach volleyball on ESPN an hour ago. Those chicks are covered in temporary tattoos for Gatorade and upmteen other sponsors. They look like living, breathing NASCARs.

    [quote comment=”282077″][quote comment=”282073″][quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]
    Yes and no[/quote]
    Don’t think that could happen anyway. NFL third jerseys, with the exception of throwbacks, have to have the same style as the primary colored or white jersey, with the difference being a color swap where a non-dominant team color becomes dominant.
    For example, the Buccaneers could have an orange, pewter, or black jersey, but it would have to have the varsity font and the pirate ship patches like the others.
    The reason for this is because there are only 16 regular season games. It’s a way of trying to preserve team identity while allowing for extra merchandise sales at the same time.[/quote]

    I don’t know whether that is an actual rule since the Jets are going on their second season in which they will wear their “Titan’s throwback” alts twice. These jerseys not only contain an entirely different color scheme but they also have a different numbering font. I know these are replicas but compare (the twos in particular) link with link

    [quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]

    It looks VERY VERY XFL. The Bucs need wholesale uni-changes. The pewter is cool but the fonts and logo stuff seem way too amateur for the NFL.

    But, I will add… I’ll bet they sell ALOT of practice jerseys, seeing that they are so different but still official team gear.

    [quote comment=”282101″][quote comment=”282094″]The baseball pants people here sometimes refer to as “pajama bottoms” look really comfortable. I wish they made dress pants out of the same material. Can anyone confirm or deny that they are in fact as comfortable as they look?[/quote]

    I have a pair for the wooden bat league I was in and they are extremely comfortable. This being said, I go with those instead of the traditional look because I can’t find regular baseball pants in my size with enough give to run and slide without ripping them. The downfall of the pajama bottoms are that there is nothing keeping your socks up so I found myself pulling my socks up more often.[/quote]

    Where did you pick up those puppies? I’m thinking about grabbing a pair of Marlins pants to watch TV and grocery shop in but feel like I need to try them on first to see if I look like a clown before I buy so the Internet won’t work.

    [quote comment=”282109″][quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]

    It looks VERY VERY XFL. The Bucs need wholesale uni-changes. The pewter is cool but the fonts and logo stuff seem way too amateur for the NFL.[/quote]

    The Bucs PRACTICE JERSEYS are 400% better than their game jerseys.

    SWITCH ALREADY !!!!

    [quote comment=”282110″]But, I will add… I’ll bet they sell ALOT of practice jerseys, seeing that they are so different but still official team gear.[/quote]

    I’m from Tampa and I’ve been to Bucs training camp at Disney in the past and I’ve NEVER seen those practice jerseys for sale. As far as I know, it’s actually a uni-gimic not intended for marketing. How rare is that?

    [quote comment=”282112″][quote comment=”282109″][quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]

    It looks VERY VERY XFL. The Bucs need wholesale uni-changes. The pewter is cool but the fonts and logo stuff seem way too amateur for the NFL.[/quote]

    The Bucs PRACTICE JERSEYS are 400% better than their game jerseys.

    SWITCH ALREADY !!!![/quote]

    i had to check the name box twice to see that it wasn’t marty who just said that…

    to each his or her own of course, but methinks those numeral fonts are neither timeless nor classic…and therefore, should best be left to the practice field…tampa’s fonts are uniqueish enough…don’t start putting the numbers in that font too…just my $.02

    [quote comment=”282114″][quote comment=”282112″][quote comment=”282109″][quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]

    It looks VERY VERY XFL. The Bucs need wholesale uni-changes. The pewter is cool but the fonts and logo stuff seem way too amateur for the NFL.[/quote]

    The Bucs PRACTICE JERSEYS are 400% better than their game jerseys.

    SWITCH ALREADY !!!![/quote]

    i had to check the name box twice to see that it wasn’t marty who just said that…

    to each his or her own of course, but methinks those numeral fonts are neither timeless nor classic…and therefore, should best be left to the practice field…tampa’s fonts are uniqueish enough…don’t start putting the numbers in that font too…just my $.02[/quote]

    Nothing wrong with a little uniqueness, though problems do start when EVERYONE starts to be unique, resulting in everyone just looking the same, no jersey being more memorable than the next team’s.

    if the red sawks have (finally???) grown weary of manny being manny…does he possibly have a new uni by thursday afternoon?

    that’s like unpossible, innit?

    [quote comment=”282093″]Red sleeves, red hat, sansabelts…that picture is from 1972, 73, or 74.
    link.[/quote]

    When the ‘Stros went to the tequila sunrise uniforms, were the home and road unis identical? I thought that the road unis were a shade of cream or something along those lines to distinguish them from the home unis, but on the Dressed to the Nines website they both look white. Realizing that the website is not always correct, can anyone confirm/recall?

    [quote comment=”282111″][quote comment=”282101″][quote comment=”282094″]The baseball pants people here sometimes refer to as “pajama bottoms” look really comfortable. I wish they made dress pants out of the same material. Can anyone confirm or deny that they are in fact as comfortable as they look?[/quote]

    I have a pair for the wooden bat league I was in and they are extremely comfortable. This being said, I go with those instead of the traditional look because I can’t find regular baseball pants in my size with enough give to run and slide without ripping them. The downfall of the pajama bottoms are that there is nothing keeping your socks up so I found myself pulling my socks up more often.[/quote]

    Where did you pick up those puppies? I’m thinking about grabbing a pair of Marlins pants to watch TV and grocery shop in but feel like I need to try them on first to see if I look like a clown before I buy so the Internet won’t work.[/quote]

    I bought them online completely blind and they worked out well. They fit like regular cut jeans if I had to compare them to normal clothes. These are the ones I have: link . They also have cool stuff like authentic 86 Mets pinstripes: link and Pirates yellow: link . Cool stuff, I think.

    [quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]

    I sure hope you’re the only one.

    [quote comment=”282081″]I love the phillies alt’s, god to finally see them live at a game the other week, definatly my favorite hat to wear, and ye awithin 1 minute or so, I took off all the stickers, and curved the brim.[/quote]

    If I ran the Phils, I’d use those ALL the time.

    [quote comment=”282117″][quote comment=”282093″]Red sleeves, red hat, sansabelts…that picture is from 1972, 73, or 74.
    link.[/quote]

    When the ‘Stros went to the tequila sunrise uniforms, were the home and road unis identical? I thought that the road unis were a shade of cream or something along those lines to distinguish them from the home unis, but on the Dressed to the Nines website they both look white. Realizing that the website is not always correct, can anyone confirm/recall?[/quote]

    Tequila sunrise unis were exactly the same home and road, despite what others will try to claim. Pants were white…home and road…always. Later they added the rainbow striped shoulder uni, which was originally a gray road only, and the home hats with rainbow body changed to Navy. When they adopted a home version of that uni is was a color called “Alamo cream” or something. Eventually those creams and gray became their only unis and the Rainbow guts were abandoned altogether.

    Also—and this has been mentioned here before—for all or part of the first season of Rainbow Guts, shoes were black.

    [quote comment=”282122″][quote comment=”282117″][quote comment=”282093″]Red sleeves, red hat, sansabelts…that picture is from 1972, 73, or 74.
    link.[/quote]

    When the ‘Stros went to the tequila sunrise uniforms, were the home and road unis identical? I thought that the road unis were a shade of cream or something along those lines to distinguish them from the home unis, but on the Dressed to the Nines website they both look white. Realizing that the website is not always correct, can anyone confirm/recall?[/quote]

    Tequila sunrise unis were exactly the same home and road, despite what others will try to claim. Pants were white…home and road…always. Later they added the rainbow striped shoulder uni, which was originally a gray road only, and the home hats with rainbow body changed to Navy. When they adopted a home version of that uni is was a color called “Alamo cream” or something. Eventually those creams and gray became their only unis and the Rainbow guts were abandoned altogether.

    Also—and this has been mentioned here before—for all or part of the first season of Rainbow Guts, shoes were black.[/quote]

    I assume it also has been noted those unis you first discussed were orange and not red.

    [quote comment=”282107″][quote comment=”282077″][quote comment=”282073″][quote comment=”282069″]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article741349.ece

    Am I the only one who wishes the Bucs had some sort of 3rd jersey with their practice number fonts?

    Also, do any other teams wear practice jerseys with numbers so different from their game jerseys?[/quote]
    Yes and no[/quote]
    Don’t think that could happen anyway. NFL third jerseys, with the exception of throwbacks, have to have the same style as the primary colored or white jersey, with the difference being a color swap where a non-dominant team color becomes dominant.
    For example, the Buccaneers could have an orange, pewter, or black jersey, but it would have to have the varsity font and the pirate ship patches like the others.
    The reason for this is because there are only 16 regular season games. It’s a way of trying to preserve team identity while allowing for extra merchandise sales at the same time.[/quote]

    I don’t know whether that is an actual rule since the Jets are going on their second season in which they will wear their “Titan’s throwback” alts twice. These jerseys not only contain an entirely different color scheme but they also have a different numbering font. I know these are replicas but compare (the twos in particular) link with link[/quote]
    Exactly. The Jets-as-Titans is a throwback uniform. Therefore, it does not have to match a home or road jersey. Teams are allowed to have a throwback set or a third set (not both) and may be worn once or twice in the regular season, in addition to once in the preseason.
    For example, the Eagles’ black jersey is a third jersey. It is a color swap with the green jersey. The green jersey has white numbers with a black drop shadow, while the black jersey keeps the white numbers, but uses a green drop shadow. No special helmet, pants, or socks went with the black thirds. But last year, the Eagles had their Swedish pastel throwback sets, forcing the black thirds to go on hiatus.

    did jon miller just say:

    1) “jose molina is benji molina’s younger brother”?

    2) “jose” posada is on the DL?

    …lemme rewind the dvr

    ok…his exact words were:

    “benji molina’s younger brother…jose molina…one of his younger brothers…at the plate now”

    not so sure whether or not he said “horsay” or “ho-say” posada…it sure as hell wasn’t “hor-hay” tho…

    /sad

    im an idiot…not miller…

    i get all those molinas confused…he IS one of the molina brothers

    …so tired

    he did botch posada’s name tho

    /carry on

    [quote comment=”282128″]im an idiot…not miller…

    i get all those molinas confused…he IS one of the molina brothers

    …so tired

    he did botch posada’s name tho

    /carry on[/quote]
    Sorry Phil, better luck next time.
    Tune in next time, to everybody’s favorite game show: Name That Molina!, exclusively on the ESPN family of networks. On behalf of everybody, I’m Steve Berthiaume–good night!

    [quote comment=”282129″][quote comment=”282128″]im an idiot…not miller…

    i get all those molinas confused…he IS one of the molina brothers

    …so tired

    he did botch posada’s name tho

    /carry on[/quote]
    Sorry Phil, better luck next time.
    Tune in next time, to everybody’s favorite game show: Name That Molina!, exclusively on the ESPN family of networks. On behalf of everybody, I’m Steve Berthiaume–good night![/quote]

    *waiting for craven to say “stop stealing my shit”*

    …yeah…um…i had complete brain-lock, and i thought it was gustavo he was talking about (who had a cup with the mets this year) and is from venezuela, not puerto rico…

    /i fail at NTM

    A few comments back someone was complaining about Bryan’s work (the “Dukes of Hazard” comment, for those of you who saw it). I deleted the comment, because it was asinine, and then sent a note to the person who posted it, telling him to get a goddamn clue.

    What a surprise to discover that this person was hiding behind (a) a phony name, and (b) a phony e-mail address. Pretty easy to criticize someone on those terms, isn’t it? Yo, “BW,” if you’re reading this, you’re not just clueless, but you’re a pussy-assed coward besides.

    Most of you know this already, but for the few who don’t: Bryan helps me in dozens of ways you don’t even know, and I would simply shut the site down on weekends altogether if not for him.

    Yes, much of his work isn’t on the level of mine. That’s why he’s the intern and I’m the main guy, and why I write on weekdays and he’s (mostly) relegated to weekends. But he helps keep the machine running. Quit complaining about him and be thankful for all the things he does.

    About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).

    Quite an interesting amalgam.

    Plain white jerseys with Wahoo on left shoulder (’54).
    Lettering style (’72) but red with white border like ’58.
    Pants like ’45 home.
    Plain navy socks like ’45 and early ’70s.
    Topped with a hat that’s sorta ’41 (“C” was white in ’41).

    [quote comment=”282135″]About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).

    Quite an interesting amalgam.

    Plain white jerseys with Wahoo on left shoulder (’54).
    Lettering style (’72) but red with white border like ’58.
    Pants like ’45 home.
    Plain navy socks like ’45 and early ’70s.
    Topped with a hat that’s sorta ’41 (“C” was white in ’41).[/quote]

    Plain navy socks like ’54, not ’45.

    [quote]About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).[/quote]

    ricko…

    i am not sure how PL feels about the terminology, but i had a off-board discussion with another UWer a couple months ago, and we decided upon the following…

    perhaps PL, if he’s reading, would like to clarify/comment/disagree…

    a throwback is, as best as can be attempted, a ‘direct reproduction of a specific year’s uniform’ (i.e. the astro rainbows, which, although butchered, was an attempt, or the A’s 68’s from earlier this year, which were beautifully recreated)

    a RETRO uni is what the phils or indians are sporting on the weekends…as you described (“harkback”)…borrowing various years elements in semi-hodgepodge fashion to create a feel of a past era, but not any specific one…

    to sum then (in my terminology, but not official UWese)…a throwback is a direct recreation of a previous year(s) uni, while a retro is an old-time feel, but not a specific attempt to recreate any particular uni

    what do you think?

    [quote comment=”282137″][quote]About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).[/quote]

    ricko…

    i am not sure how PL feels about the terminology, but i had a off-board discussion with another UWer a couple months ago, and we decided upon the following…

    perhaps PL, if he’s reading, would like to clarify/comment/disagree…

    a throwback is, as best as can be attempted, a ‘direct reproduction of a specific year’s uniform’ (i.e. the astro rainbows, which, although butchered, was an attempt, or the A’s 68’s from earlier this year, which were beautifully recreated)

    a RETRO uni is what the phils or indians are sporting on the weekends…as you described (“harkback”)…borrowing various years elements in semi-hodgepodge fashion to create a feel of a past era, but not any specific one…

    to sum then (in my terminology, but not official UWese)…a throwback is a direct recreation of a previous year(s) uni, while a retro is an old-time feel, but not a specific attempt to recreate any particular uni

    what do you think?[/quote]

    Sounds good to me, as long as there isn’t any sort of negative connotation to a “hark-back”/retro jersey, since sometimes those can be pulled off far better than a jersey that is supposed to perfectly represent an old jersey.

    [quote comment=”282076″][quote comment=”282071″]I bought a new 5950 yesterday, and had to rip off the hologram within about 2 minutes. So annoying up there in the very top of your vision.[/quote]
    Does anyone know if there is truth to this, I was told that the “style” of keeping the stickers on the hat and not bending the brim began because people would buy hats, wear them once, then return them[/quote]

    Never heard that. I’m pretty sure it began in hip-hop videos during the throwback craze, as everyone had to have a matching hat w/their jersey. You’d see stickers on the top and bottom of the bill.
    Some would also wear the hat crooked off to one side with the brim flat. I would think that a curved brim may get in the way of sight out of that eye.

    [quote comment=”282138″][quote comment=”282137″][quote]About those Indians “harkbacks” (cuz they aren’t throwbacks).[/quote]

    ricko…

    i am not sure how PL feels about the terminology, but i had a off-board discussion with another UWer a couple months ago, and we decided upon the following…

    perhaps PL, if he’s reading, would like to clarify/comment/disagree…

    a throwback is, as best as can be attempted, a ‘direct reproduction of a specific year’s uniform’ (i.e. the astro rainbows, which, although butchered, was an attempt, or the A’s 68’s from earlier this year, which were beautifully recreated)

    a RETRO uni is what the phils or indians are sporting on the weekends…as you described (“harkback”)…borrowing various years elements in semi-hodgepodge fashion to create a feel of a past era, but not any specific one…

    to sum then (in my terminology, but not official UWese)…a throwback is a direct recreation of a previous year(s) uni, while a retro is an old-time feel, but not a specific attempt to recreate any particular uni

    what do you think?[/quote]

    Sounds okay to me, as long as there isn’t any sort of negative connotation to a “hark-back”/retro jersey, since sometimes those can be pulled off far better than a jersey that is supposed to perfectly represent an old jersey.[/quote]

    “Retro” works. For me, anyway. Although outside U-W it may mean the same thing as Throwback.

    Meant nothing negative about “harkback,” was just making up a term I thought might explain the concept of looking back but not necessarilly replicating. Think the Indians and Phillies retros look great. That is, of course, unless they begin to overwear them. Then they just become some kind of “alternate.”

    Not sure what color the Phillies Retro hats are, navy or royal. Hope they’re royal—and thought they were when first saw them—cuz would be true to their late ’40s colors.

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