Above The Rim

I haven’t had a chance to peruse the comments since the tourney began, so I apologize if this has been mentioned. In addition to the NCAA jersey patch, the NCAA has started putting the same blue circle logo over whatever graphics are at half-court where the games are being played.

They have to scale the logo depending on what is being covered up and in some cases (Raleigh, NC for example) the logo is HUGE.

BTW, thank goodness we won’t have to see the Oregon eyesores anymore.

Bryan,

Quite possibly the funniest post in Uni Watch history. Will you be here all week?

First and foremost, 2 day into the tournament, and I am U-N-D-E-F-E-A-T-E-D. Perfect bracket.

I never noticed those blue NCAA logos on the jerseys before yesterday. Have they always been on there, or is this something new to clutter up already cluttered jerseys?

And stop hating on the Oregon jerseys. It’s a different look. And I like it. Hate on Syracuse. Their jerseys suck.

Go Vols!

Hopefully this isn’t out of bounds since this isn’t FloorLogo Watch but you’ll never see the Tostito’s logos being covered up at the Tostito’s Fiesta Bowl because the NCAA doesn’t control and own that event. The NCAA does control and own the basketball tournament – and they get a huge slice of the revenue. Thus they can do whatever craziness they want to with it. It’s their baby. And that is why you’ll never see a team with a huge fan following that commits multiple recruiting violations (cough, cough, Kentucky, cough, Indiana, cough, cough) given the death penalty. It would hurt the NCAA to lose a mega-draw like that in the tourney.

By the way, the floor that is used for the Final Four is given to the winning school after the championship game.

[quote comment=”241289″][quote comment=”241285″]First and foremost, 2 day into the tournament, and I am U-N-D-E-F-E-A-T-E-D. Perfect bracket.

I never noticed those blue NCAA logos on the jerseys before yesterday. Have they always been on there, or is this something new to clutter up already cluttered jerseys?

And stop hating on the Oregon jerseys. It’s a different look. And I like it. Hate on Syracuse. Their jerseys suck.

Go Vols![/quote]
I have 1 team left in the Uni Watch challenge. Clemson, USC and Gonzaga – you are all DEAD to me now.
Go Butler!!![/quote]

only team for me that lost was IU, i still have W. Ky and Nova in…c’mon more 12 point victories!

[quote comment=”241276″]
Also, as I recall, schools would pay money to have their courts used in the tournament. For example, a mid major like George Mason had its court shipped north about 8 years ago to be used in an arena. They paid money to get exposure for the school. Does the NCAA not do that anymore? If so, that HUGE ass logo infringes on the exposure…no?[/quote]

im not sure i understand the above statement. conferences or individual schools spend ENORMOUS amounts of money to host first/second and regional rounds of the tournament. normally you can see on the press row banner (and recently on the floor) who is hosting (whether it is a conference or a school) the event.
there is no way that a conference or school would shell out all that money to host the early rounds and then rent a floor to use which advertises another school. it just wouldnt happen.

[quote comment=”241298″]By the way, the floor that is used for the Final Four is given to the winning school after the championship game.[/quote]

schools would have the option to buy the floor they won the national title on. no way the ncaa would give it away. they’d have to make money off of it someway.
first time i ever heard of a school buying the floor was michigan st and putting it in the breslin center.

The championship floor can be purchased by the winning school. When Florida won in 2006, they bought the floor for I think 70,000, sanded out the final four logo and baselines and but a Gator head/florida ect. but they wanted to have the same physical floor they won the chanpionship on. With the 07 team, they also bought the floor, put it down in the arena for the championship celebration, and then chopped it up and were selling pieces of it.

2007 Floor story

[quote comment=”241306″][quote comment=”241276″]I noticed the NCAA logo on the court too….U-G-L-Y!!! I mean, we KNOW it is the NCAA Div. I tournament. We aren’t going to confuse it with the NAIA…jeez.

Also, as I recall, schools would pay money to have their courts used in the tournament. For example, a mid major like George Mason had its court shipped north about 8 years ago to be used in an arena. They paid money to get exposure for the school. Does the NCAA not do that anymore? If so, that HUGE ass logo infringes on the exposure…no?[/quote]
Usually, an NCAA school is the “official host” at tournament sites; even if the games are being played in an NBA arena. I noticed that the floor used at the Pepsi Center in Denver had most of the Denver Nuggets signage covered, but there was a Colorado State logo on the floor. (Why CSU, I dunno… they’re located in Fort Collins, while Denver University’s right in town.)

Then there’s Upset City — the St. Pete Times Forum (which is actually located in Tampa; the newspaper across the bay bought the naming rights.) If you looked really closely, you could see the University of South Florida’s logo on the floor, even though the Bulls play in an on-campus arena.

I agree, the NCAA logo slapped on everybody’s uniform looks terrible; and does anybody really think we’re gonna forget that North Carolina State uses the RBC Center in Raleigh as their home floor?[/quote]

The sites are hosted by conferences, and the Mountain West Conference is hosting in Denver, sponsored by Colorado State University.

[quote comment=”241306″][quote comment=”241276″]I noticed the NCAA logo on the court too….U-G-L-Y!!! I mean, we KNOW it is the NCAA Div. I tournament. We aren’t going to confuse it with the NAIA…jeez.

Also, as I recall, schools would pay money to have their courts used in the tournament. For example, a mid major like George Mason had its court shipped north about 8 years ago to be used in an arena. They paid money to get exposure for the school. Does the NCAA not do that anymore? If so, that HUGE ass logo infringes on the exposure…no?[/quote]
Usually, an NCAA school is the “official host” at tournament sites; even if the games are being played in an NBA arena. I noticed that the floor used at the Pepsi Center in Denver had most of the Denver Nuggets signage covered, but there was a Colorado State logo on the floor. (Why CSU, I dunno… they’re located in Fort Collins, while Denver University’s right in town.)

Then there’s Upset City — the St. Pete Times Forum (which is actually located in Tampa; the newspaper across the bay bought the naming rights.) If you looked really closely, you could see the University of South Florida’s logo on the floor, even though the Bulls play in an on-campus arena.

I agree, the NCAA logo slapped on everybody’s uniform looks terrible; and does anybody really think we’re gonna forget that North Carolina State uses the RBC Center in Raleigh as their home floor?[/quote]

Another problem with the mid court logo is that it is actually a giant sticker, so it covers up the hardwood and can create problems for players, too. I recall seeing someone from UMBC (Jay Greene, I think) slip on it yesterday; not sure if anyone else has fallen victim to it.

The most likely reason they put that sticker down is because a lot of arenas lay the hardwood down as the only floor. For example, at Maryland the hardwood covers the entire length of the ground floor. I’ve seen some arenas actually take up the planks of court where the center logo is but this can’t be done when courts like Maryland’s are used. So instead of having the host school’s logo on the floor, the have to slap a big (ugly) sticker on top of it to cover the host school’s logo. It’s likely that the NC State is in a similar situation because the ACC logo required at the top of the key was still in place.

I’m watching the Womens Tournament, and the court in Baton Rouge doesn’t have the big blue ball logo at halfcourt. They must not require it when it would be prohibitably large, or when the host school has a horizontal center court design.

[quote comment=”241307″][quote comment=”241276″]
Also, as I recall, schools would pay money to have their courts used in the tournament. For example, a mid major like George Mason had its court shipped north about 8 years ago to be used in an arena. They paid money to get exposure for the school. Does the NCAA not do that anymore? If so, that HUGE ass logo infringes on the exposure…no?[/quote]

im not sure i understand the above statement. conferences or individual schools spend ENORMOUS amounts of money to host first/second and regional rounds of the tournament. normally you can see on the press row banner (and recently on the floor) who is hosting (whether it is a conference or a school) the event.
there is no way that a conference or school would shell out all that money to host the early rounds and then rent a floor to use which advertises another school. it just wouldnt happen.

That is what I mean. GMU ‘hosted’ the first round years ago. But, it wasn’t on their campus at the Patriot Center. It was at an arena…like the US Air arena or something (Im not sure exactly where). They had to pay 10 grand to host and to transport their floor to the arena. My point is, that if this is still done, the big NCAA logo would cover up the school logo in the middle. Yes, you can see the school name on the end line. I was just curious if NCAA still sold ‘hosting’ rights and how they negotiated covering up the school’s logo.

And sometimes the logo is so huge depending on what they are covering up…it just looks funny.

[quote]I recall seeing someone from UMBC (Jay Greene, I think) slip on it yesterday; not sure if anyone else has fallen victim to it.[/quote]

no pun intended

[quote comment=”241332″][quote comment=”241317″][quote comment=”241306″][quote comment=”241276″]I noticed the NCAA logo on the court too….U-G-L-Y!!! I mean, we KNOW it is the NCAA Div. I tournament. We aren’t going to confuse it with the NAIA…jeez.

Also, as I recall, schools would pay money to have their courts used in the tournament. For example, a mid major like George Mason had its court shipped north about 8 years ago to be used in an arena. They paid money to get exposure for the school. Does the NCAA not do that anymore? If so, that HUGE ass logo infringes on the exposure…no?[/quote]
Usually, an NCAA school is the “official host” at tournament sites; even if the games are being played in an NBA arena. I noticed that the floor used at the Pepsi Center in Denver had most of the Denver Nuggets signage covered, but there was a Colorado State logo on the floor. (Why CSU, I dunno… they’re located in Fort Collins, while Denver University’s right in town.)

Then there’s Upset City — the St. Pete Times Forum (which is actually located in Tampa; the newspaper across the bay bought the naming rights.) If you looked really closely, you could see the University of South Florida’s logo on the floor, even though the Bulls play in an on-campus arena.

I agree, the NCAA logo slapped on everybody’s uniform looks terrible; and does anybody really think we’re gonna forget that North Carolina State uses the RBC Center in Raleigh as their home floor?[/quote]

The sites are hosted by conferences, and the Mountain West Conference is hosting in Denver, sponsored by Colorado State University.[/quote]

Sometimes schools host (DePaul hosted the Chicago Regional the year Illinois made their run), sometimes conferences host (The SEC is hosting in Birmingham this year), and sometimes both host (Whenever the Final Four is in Indy, it’s Butler University and the Horizon League hosting). The host school/conference is responsible for the support staff, basically everything you don’t see that needs to be done. A few years back I went to the Wrestling Championships as a member of the media, and the University of Missouri Sports Information interns were always making copies of the results and bout sheets to be distributed along Press Row.

As for the courts themselves, I think most NBA arenas have 2 different floors, one for the pro team and one for college/HS games. At the very least they have some kind of vinyl covering for the baselines. If the arena has a permanent college tenant (Like the Verizon Center and G-Town or DePaul at the Rosemont) they just use that court. Sometimes the host school just brings their home court to the arena (Ohio State did this when they hosted at Nationwide Arena).

The question you may be asking yourself is “Why would a conference host and not a school?” The answer is simple: if a school hosts, they can’t play there, but if a conference hosts, anyone can play there. Of course, the major exception is the first weekend of the Womens Tournament, where the host school is guaranteed to play at their site if they make it.[/quote]

The last part about the men’s tournament isn’t quite right – schools are not allowed to play in their home arena regardless of who sponsors. NC State (if they didn’t suck) wouldn’t have been able to play in Raleigh even if the ACC sponsored the regional.

As with almost everything regarding the NCAA tournament, who hosts is all about the money. Sponsoring schools or conferences, in conjunction with the host arenas and cities, make bids to the NCAA to host the games. The bidders guarantee a certain amount and get to keep a portion above the guarantee.

It’s also become common for future final four sites to host sweet 16 sites the year before (Detroit has a regional final this year). That allows the sponsors and NCAAs to give the venue a trial run a year before the big event.

When a facility hosts an event, the NCAA takes over EVERYTHING. In 2006 my alma mater (Northeastern) co-hosted the women’s final four with Harvard. We did get our logo on the floor, which was cool, but the NCAA does get a bit overboard. I was the “host” for one of the teams and I was drinking a diet coke and I walked on the floor of the Boston Garden to watch them practice. Someone from the NCAA Gestapo came over and handed me a cup and told me that I couldn’t have branded products on the floor. I said “it’s practice”. The NCAA said to me “television stations broadcast these practices, put it in a cup.”

My company has a skybox at the Boston Garden, and during the NCAA events at the Garden, you can’t sell alcohol during the events. Except if you have a sky box, but all of the alcohol has to be in the box before the events start – so for the NCAA Men’s tournament, you need to have all your booze in the skybox by 12 noon for the ENTIRE day. In 2003, we were running low on booze, and in between the morning and afternoon sessions, we made a run to local liquor stores to buy individual shot of various booze to drink during the evening session.

Also, all of the arena ads are blacked out during the game, and any reference to professional sports are typically removed. I don’t remember if the Boston Celtics and Boston Bruins banners were taken down for the NCAA Final Four in 2006.

As part of the Host Committee, the rule book I got was pretty big – the things I could and couldn’t do as host. Like I couldn’t buy the team I was hosting anything – it was a violation of NCAA rules. I wanted to invite them to my home for dinner, but I didn’t clear it with the NCAA in time to get it “approved”.

[quote comment=”241353″]
Also, all of the arena ads are blacked out during the game, and any reference to professional sports are typically removed. I don’t remember if the Boston Celtics and Boston Bruins banners were taken down for the NCAA Final Four in 2006.[/quote]

When I was at the arena yesterday for the practice day, the banner for the Iowa Stars inagural season was still in the rafters, and the three pro teams still had a lot of their promotional advertising in the concourse.

Basketball uniforms as a whole, with a special nod to college hoops, are an abomination. They are too baggy, from the tops to the shorts. Seems like the inmates are running the asylum in terms of asthetics. I am not saying to go back to the “hot pants” look of the 70’s, but a little discretion would be nice. In my opinion, most basketball uniforms are clown outfits, with no class, no style and no sense of pride to the person wearing them.

[quote comment=”241362″]I don’t know how often this has been asked, but—
Whynot have a message board similar to goaliestore.com, sportslogos.net or marlinsbaseball.com and organize the entire board by catorgories such as-

Locker room (Random stuff), Concepts(Concepts), Changes (Unichanges), News, Site News and Uni-patches?

Could make it easier to read the comments section.

Chris[/quote]

But that would involve even more work, because then Paul (or Bryan) would have to monitor all of those different boards, instead of just one coments section.

[quote comment=”241358″]Basketball uniforms as a whole, with a special nod to college hoops, are an abomination. They are too baggy, from the tops to the shorts. Seems like the inmates are running the asylum in terms of asthetics. I am not saying to go back to the “hot pants” look of the 70’s, but a little discretion would be nice. In my opinion, most basketball uniforms are clown outfits, with no class, no style and no sense of pride to the person wearing them.[/quote]

New rule (with apologies to Bill Maher): When basketball shorts are longer than football pants, they are not shorts.

Back in 1992, when the East regional was at the Spectrum, they had opened up the beer taps, but I told someone from ARAServ (now Aramark) that there was not supposed to be alcohol served. They turned off the beer a few minutes later.

[quote comment=”241381″]“New rule (with apologies to Bill Maher): When basketball shorts are longer than football pants, they are not shorts.”[/quote]

Or, as Nick Bakay put it:

[quote]“Long shorts: An inch below the knees.

“Short shorts: An inch below the grapevine.”[/quote]

[quote comment=”241389″]An interesting aspect of the tournament is the differance in uniforms being worn by “Nike” schools, as the higher profile teams UNC, Georgetown etc. are wearing the S.O.D. unis while other lower profile schools like George Mason, Boise State etc. are still wearing last years model with the “horns”. It really shows the commitment to the programs success on Nike’s part that is if one buys into the argument of high performance uniform systems and the impact on success.[/quote]

Or it could be that the non-frock schools just prefer the older style?

Has anybody else noticed that the Nike Horns have looked different durring the tourny???

with some tweaking, the west virginia system of dress uni’s might be the best in the tourney.
my suggestion is to eliminate the back striping, and adjust the shorts stripe.

navy, yellow and white reall look sharp together.

They only covered up one of the two “Verizon Center” court logos for the games there. Is there a one corporate logo limit or something?

Speaking of courtship, on CBS College Sports, there’s a ginormous NCAA Basketball insignia decal at the center court in Salem, Virginia. Also, Washington University of St. Louis is wearing Red and Green Christmas Colors from Sports Belle.

Talk about fugly on ugly on a ugly stick…

Is anyone else diggin’ Marcus Landry’s link as much as I am??

Don’t know if this ever got mentioned here, but the Celtics’ new guys have uncommon jersey numbers. Unlike Scot Pollard, who only wears #66 “because all the other numbers are f*cking taken,” Sam Cassell and P.J. Brown’s numbers appear to have some meaning.
Sam Cassell has generally worn #10 for his teams. He wore #19 with the Clippers, but both of those numbers are retired by the Celtics (Jo Jo White and Don Nelson, respectively). Continuing with the sum-of-the-digits theme, Cassell has #28.
P.J. Brown has almost always worn #42 in the NBA. (Not sure about his New Jersey stint.) Probably would have taken it if not for Tony Allen already having the number. So Brown’s opted for #93, a symbol of his first year in the NBA.

Sam Cassell has generally worn #10 for his teams. He wore #19 with the Clippers, but both of those numbers are retired by the Celtics (Jo Jo White and Don Nelson, respectively). Continuing with the sum-of-the-digits theme, Cassell has #28.

10 + 19 = 29.
What gives?

How ’bout them ‘Eers!!!!!!!!

Ugly uniforms, but a great win!

[quote comment=”241440″][quote comment=”241413″]They only covered up one of the two “Verizon Center” court logos for the games there. Is there a one corporate logo limit or something?[/quote]

I noticed that too when I was watching the Duke and West Virginia game[/quote]

They did that with the arena logo in Raleigh too.

Also, Tennessee has some pretty cluttered uniforms too. They have flags, SEC 75th Anniversary Patches, some have Vol Scholar patches (for the athletes who maintain a certain GPA) and now the NCAA patches

Although, now that I look through photo galleries of our first round game vs. American, it appears that they removed the Vol Scholar patches to make room for the NCAA ones

the discussion of logos on the floor and NCAA rules has really been interesting. thanks for all who contributed. it’s big business isn’t it – and it’s run like a big business!

[quote comment=”241457″]Who gets your vote for best uni in the tournament?

Mine goes to Marquette.[/quote]
I like UNC-Chapel Hill’s uniforms a lot. Form-fitting tops, less-than-ridiculous shorts by Ol’ Roy’s request, argyle accents, nice colors, and a cool typeface. Pretty much a complete package.

I was at the first round games in DC and noticed something with Baylor. Their basketball players were wearing adidas but their cheerleaders were wearing Nikes. Thinking that was odd I went to the Baylor website and it looks like they are a Nike school, but the mens basketball wears adidas. Something seems odd there.

[quote comment=”241298″]By the way, the floor that is used for the Final Four is given to the winning school after the championship game.[/quote]

That’s incorrect. The NCAA sells the floor to a school at a cheap rate (like half price). You can put your name in and there’s a waiting list, but the National Champ gets first option.

You get about eight re-paints on a floor before you need a new one; so if you get an NCAA floor, you have seven more and you’re getting decent value.

Dayton did a re-paint and put a huge logo for their games. Knowing they host the NCAA Tournament every year (at least the Opening Round), they simply pulled out the middle panels on the court from one end, took out the logo, put some extra panels where the logo went, and then used the small sticker so people didn’t slip.

[quote comment=”241462″]I was at the first round games in DC and noticed something with Baylor. Their basketball players were wearing adidas but their cheerleaders were wearing Nikes. Thinking that was odd I went to the Baylor website and it looks like they are a Nike school, but the mens basketball wears adidas. Something seems odd there.[/quote]

most ncaa schools have individual deals for shoes and apparel based on sport (or coach).

in only certain circumstances will a contract be offered by a manufacturer to outfit the schools entire athletic programs.

recently (maybe last september) we read how virginia tech’s nike deal was sweetened to include all of their sports.

[quote comment=”241455″]Purdue’s and Stanford’s unis are worse than ugly, they’re boring. It’s like even Nike just stopped trying.[/quote]

Gotta defend my Boilers here for a second. Maybe the Nike uniforms that Purdue wears aren’t intrinsically exciting, but at least they’ve been wearing the same duds for four or five years now.

Personally, I think that’s tons better than schools which crack out six or seven new designs every season. The Purdue uniforms have an individual identity now–they belong to the team, and the team is identified with the design.

OK, after extensive scrutiny of the first and second round sites, I have figured out a few things about each arena…

Verizon Center: Since Georgetown is their main college tenant, and the host school, their court is the one being used. The Hoyas logos in the area of play are permanent, one of the Verizon Center wordmarks is covered, and the NCAA ball is covering the big blue G at center court.

RBC Center: Again, they are using their primary college floor, with one RBC logo covered and the NCAA ball over the giant NCS at midcourt. The smaller NCS logos are temporary.

Qwest Center: Again, the primary college floor is being used. Again, one arena logo is covered, this time with a Creighton wordmark. And again, the big blue ball is covering the school’s logo.

Pepsi Center: The Nuggets normal court is being used, but it appears as though the arena has some extra panels to place at midcourt to replace the giant mountains logo. The Denver Nuggets wordmarks on the baselines are covered by Pepsi Center decals, in the same font and color scheme. The NBA 3-point line is decaled over, if you look closely you can still see it.

Honda Center: Since the place has no college or NBA teams, their floor has Honda Center wordmarks permanently on the baselines and a Honda red and white scheme. While the free throw lanes have the wider NBA lines, the floor does not appear to have an NBA 3-point line.

St Pete Times Forum: Again, no college tenant, so the arena’s name is painted on one baseline, with Tampa Bay on the other. Since the St Pete Times has no real color scheme, the court is painted in Tampa Bay Lightning colors of blue, black, and silver.

Alltel Arena: No permanent tenant, college or pro, but UALR did play there until they built their own place. The paint scheme is whatever blend of blue and purple Alltel uses. The wordmarks on the baselines are permanent, and the UALR logos are covering Alltel logos.

BJCC Arena: Since they have no tenants and no sponsors, BJCC got to choose their own colors, but the floor looks like it was purchased second-hand from the Myriad Convention Center in Oklahoma City.

[quote comment=”241477″]OK, after extensive scrutiny of the first and second round sites, I have figured out a few things about each arena…

Verizon Center: Since Georgetown is their main college tenant, and the host school, their court is the one being used. The Hoyas logos in the area of play are permanent, one of the Verizon Center wordmarks is covered, and the NCAA ball is covering the big blue G at center court.

RBC Center: Again, they are using their primary college floor, with one RBC logo covered and the NCAA ball over the giant NCS at midcourt. The smaller NCS logos are temporary.

Qwest Center: Again, the primary college floor is being used. Again, one arena logo is covered, this time with a Creighton wordmark. And again, the big blue ball is covering the school’s logo.

Pepsi Center: The Nuggets normal court is being used, but it appears as though the arena has some extra panels to place at midcourt to replace the giant mountains logo. The Denver Nuggets wordmarks on the baselines are covered by Pepsi Center decals, in the same font and color scheme. The NBA 3-point line is decaled over, if you look closely you can still see it.

Honda Center: Since the place has no college or NBA teams, their floor has Honda Center wordmarks permanently on the baselines and a Honda red and white scheme. While the free throw lanes have the wider NBA lines, the floor does not appear to have an NBA 3-point line.

St Pete Times Forum: Again, no college tenant, so the arena’s name is painted on one baseline, with Tampa Bay on the other. Since the St Pete Times has no real color scheme, the court is painted in Tampa Bay Lightning colors of blue, black, and silver.

Alltel Arena: No permanent tenant, college or pro, but UALR did play there until they built their own place. The paint scheme is whatever blend of blue and purple Alltel uses. The wordmarks on the baselines are permanent, and the UALR logos are covering Alltel logos.

BJCC Arena: Since they have no tenants and no sponsors, BJCC got to choose their own colors, but the floor looks like it was purchased second-hand from the Myriad Convention Center in Oklahoma City.[/quote]
The Saint Pete Times Fourm floor was the same floor from last year’s ACC Tournament held there just with ACC logo’s covered by the NCAA logo and the USF logos.

How about the CONFERENCE tournament floors? I noticed that the Big Ten managed to make their own entire floor for the big ten tournament in indianapolis, since they have Conseco Fieldhouse for the men and women for the foreseeable future. It featured link (minus all the words and the “08”) at center-court. This was the only floor I noticed for the conference tourneys that was completely conference-specific.

By the way, the pinwheel is an ingenious logo. It (for the most part) incorporates each school’s color combos in an eye-pleasing design. Good job, Big Ten.

[quote comment=”241480″]
The Saint Pete Times Fourm floor was the same floor from last year’s ACC Tournament held there just with ACC logo’s covered by the NCAA logo and the USF logos.[/quote]

Is it possible that the ACC logos were temporary, the same way the NCAA logos are?

Logo creep I couldnt link.

[quote comment=”241487″]
And I could be wrong, but I think the giant NCAA midcourt logos are actually done with temporary paint, not a decal. The smaller NCAA logos and ribbons are decals.[/quote]

I’m not saying you’re wrong, cause I’m not sure myself, but the big blue balls look too scuffed up to be painted on.

[quote comment=”241492″][quote comment=”241483″]How about the CONFERENCE tournament floors? I noticed that the Big Ten managed to make their own entire floor for the big ten tournament in indianapolis, since they have Conseco Fieldhouse for the men and women for the foreseeable future. It featured link (minus all the words and the “08”) at center-court. This was the only floor I noticed for the conference tourneys that was completely conference-specific.

By the way, the pinwheel is an ingenious logo. It (for the most part) incorporates each school’s color combos in an eye-pleasing design. Good job, Big Ten.[/quote]

link video gives a decent idea of how the B10 floor looked. Note the lack of NBA 3-point lines, meaning it’s an entirely different court from the Pacers’. (Also, at past Big Ten events at Conseco, I’ve seen the Pacers’ floor chilling in pieces in the basement under the stands)[/quote]

I had almost put that court design out of my mind. I don’t think I’ve ever seen boundary lines that friggen wide.

Going off on a slightly different tangent, I miss the scorer’s table banner that featured the names of all the schools at that regional site, plus the name of the host institution, whether it was a school or a conference.

They’ve been supplanted by those huge electronic display boards that have the names of the two schools playing in the current game. That to me seems utterly pointless. Everyone in the arena knows who’s playing and so do 99 percent of the people watching the game on TV.

[quote comment=”241510″]Going off on a slightly different tangent, I miss the scorer’s table banner that featured the names of all the schools at that regional site, plus the name of the host institution, whether it was a school or a conference.

They’ve been supplanted by those huge electronic display boards that have the names of the two schools playing in the current game. That to me seems utterly pointless. Everyone in the arena knows who’s playing and so do 99 percent of the people watching the game on TV.[/quote]
100% agreed- I miss those as well.

[quote comment=”241510″]Going off on a slightly different tangent, I miss the scorer’s table banner that featured the names of all the schools at that regional site, plus the name of the host institution, whether it was a school or a conference.

They’ve been supplanted by those huge electronic display boards that have the names of the two schools playing in the current game. That to me seems utterly pointless. Everyone in the arena knows who’s playing and so do 99 percent of the people watching the game on TV.[/quote]

The only site I’ve seen so far in the Men’s tournament that uses the electronic banner is Omaha, all the rest are using very good quality banners. And the Womens Tournament still has the banners with all of the teams on them.