New ESPN column today here’s the link.
Meanwhile: I’ve written several times about this photo of Stan the Man modeling the Cards’ 1956 home uni and holding a prototype of what was supposed to be the road grays (a better view of the photo’s caption is here, and a blog entry about the photo is here). The team ended up not using the road design, and the whole episode has become one of history’s classic “What might have been” prototype stories.
So I was intrigued when reader Bruce Menard recently got in touch to alert me to this auction, which is for a prototype salesman sample jersey that appears to be very similar to the one Musial was holding in the photo. The biggest difference is that the jersey in the Musial photo was button-front, while the one up for auction is zip-front. Other distinctions: The Musial jersey had a Slugger Bird left-sleeve patch, while the auction jersey doesn’t, and the auction jersey has red piping around the collar (but not down the placket, oddly) and at the sleeve cuffs, while it looks like the Musial jersey was piping-free.
The kicker is that the Musial photo was taken in 1956, while the auction listing describes the zip-front jersey as “1940s.” Could it be that the Cards were considering this design a decade prior to the Musial photo?
My go-to guy for Cardinals questions is Brian Finch, who runs the Cardinals Hall of Fame in St. Looey, so I got in touch with him. Here’s his response:
The quick answer is that I think it’s a 1956 salesman sample. ”¦ I wouldn’t get too worked up over it being a zipper-front. 1955 was the final year of the zipper-front jerseys for the Cardinals, so it makes sense that a sample made at some point prior to the ’56 season could have had a zipper-front.
I’ve seen and held the jersey at auction and it’s in wonderful condition. In fact it’s so minty, I don’t think it was worn. The corners of the numbers are sharp, there was no visible wear or pilling whatsoever, and the colors of the fabric, embroidery, and tagging were bold. All of these point to this being a sample.
As to why the auction company says it’s a 1940s piece — that’s beyond me.
So there you have it. Whatever the jersey’s provenance, it serves as an useful reminder that there’s some amazing stuff floating around out there.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Good article here about Minnesota’s hockey equipment manager (with thanks to Frank Mercogliano). ”¦ Holy crap! ”¦ Brian Schneider, who’s had one of the more interesting mask designs among MLB backstops, will apparently be wearing this with the Mets. Can’t say I’m in love with it, but at least it appears to be completely free of black (with thanks to Marc Rabinowitz). ”¦ Seth Engelbrecht reports that Illinois will wear Butkus-era throwbacks on September 6th. Details here. ”¦ The Maple Leafs held an outdoor practice the other day. Details here, and additional pics here (with thanks to Will Leslie). ”¦ Dayton wore throwbacks last night (“although that didnit stop us from shitting the bed yet again,” laments Tim Bennett). ”¦ Awesome Cali Golden Seals historical video clip, including lots of uni-related commentary, here (Frank Mercogliano again, plus he also came up with a very short video that should be a big hit at Teebz‘s house). ”¦ “I was in the Towe Auto Museum (of all places) in Sacramento,” writes Larry Brunt, “and among all the cars they had a single display case of Sacramento-oriented uniforms. Included was this jersey, worn by the Muzio’s Bakery in the 1950s. As explained on this card, the uniforms were hand-me-downs from the 1940s Yankees. How cool to have worn one of those!” … Will Brinson reports that Steve Nash is wearing sneakers that are made entirely from recycled materials. … Well, that didn’t take long. … Best analysis so far of yesterday’s theatrics.
The links to the Shorpy photos are not working.
Spring training/batting practice jersey question: What is the life cycle of the designs? I see that we are in year two of the unattractive template forced on the teams. Will there be a new one imposed next season? These days, do teams have the ability to opt out of the template, or merely some input into how it is executed for their particular squad?
I have to give an informative speech in my communications class. I want to do something uni related. Does anyone have any good ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-B
A little off subject, but who wants to bet the Florida Panthers end up with a “20” patch for Richard Zednik?
I hope not, cuz I think it’d be WAY too far for memorializing someone who’s still alive…yet strangely I feel like its going to happen.
[quote comment=”224748″]A little off subject, but who wants to bet the Florida Panthers end up with a “20” patch for Richard Zednik?
I hope not, cuz I think it’d be WAY too far for memorializing someone who’s still alive…yet strangely I feel like its going to happen.[/quote]
I would agree with you if he was still in ICU and having complications, but the fact that he is making a good recovery leads me to believe they won’t go with a patch, but maybe next week have him come to a home game and have him come out on the ice during like intermission and they’ll give him a standing ovation.
[quote comment=”224748″]A little off subject, but who wants to bet the Florida Panthers end up with a “20” patch for Richard Zednik?
I hope not, cuz I think it’d be WAY too far for memorializing someone who’s still alive…yet strangely I feel like its going to happen.[/quote]
Hang the jersey on the bench and call it a day.
plus he also came up with a very short video that should be link
Paul, I know you like Teebz but I may have to hunt the two of you down and hurt you. Why do I keep having to be reminded of the years that the Islanders forgot who they were? Especially now that link has designed their link.
What do you guys make of link? It looks like it has some concept logos and uniforms for various hockey leagues including the NHL.
Nice Home Depot logos on the Maple Leafs’ jerseys.
I could see it now.. the so and so “artificial ice rink built by the Home Depot”, just like they do for the pre-game college football show.
I love this logo, a big improvement from the current one.
link
[quote comment=”224756″][quote comment=”224748″]A little off subject, but who wants to bet the Florida Panthers end up with a “20” patch for Richard Zednik?
I hope not, cuz I think it’d be WAY too far for memorializing someone who’s still alive…yet strangely I feel like its going to happen.[/quote]
I would agree with you if he was still in ICU and having complications, but the fact that he is making a good recovery leads me to believe they won’t go with a patch, but maybe next week have him come to a home game and have him come out on the ice during like intermission and they’ll give him a standing ovation.[/quote]
This is what they did
link
This pink thing just got a lot worse, now that the entire ECAC hockey league (men’s and women’s teams) is staging “Pink at the Rink”
The full atrocity (including matching pink coach’s ties) is up for sale on ebay:
link
[quote comment=”224766″]I love this logo, a big improvement from the current one.
link
Tampa bay logo that is
That California Golden Seals video is the first i’ve seen of the white skates on the ice.
[quote]New ESPN column today. Link coming shortly.[/quote]
it’s hard to believe you, sir…i hate to say that…you’re one of my heroes…but it’s hard to believe…
Good to see there is no uniform change for this guy!
yeh!
[quote comment=”224775″][quote]“New ESPN column today. Link coming shortly.”[/quote]
“It’s hard to believe you, sir…I hate to say that…you’re one of my heroes…but it’s hard to believe…”[/quote]
Patience, grasshopper.
It doesn’t look like black is going away that much for the Mets……
link
[quote comment=”224779″]Good to see there is no uniform change for this guy!
yeh![/quote]
Awesomeness…
[quote comment=”224792″][quote comment=”224779″]Good to see there is no uniform change for this guy!
yeh![/quote]
Awesomeness…[/quote]
WOO HOO!!!
Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.
[quote comment=”224760″]What do you guys make of link? It looks like it has some concept logos and uniforms for various hockey leagues including the NHL.[/quote]
That’s the personal design website of Philip Wiebe, one of the members at Chris Creamer’s site.
[quote comment=”224760″]What do you guys make of link? It looks like it has some concept logos and uniforms for various hockey leagues including the NHL.[/quote]
If you back up to their main webpage and click on ‘Portfolio’ there are other sports represented as well. My guess is that they created these designs but they were not selected by the various teams.
I love those jerseys! Give that Islanders jersey some love, Shaftman! You know you want fishsticks. ;o)
As for that “alternate logo” site, those are ridiculous. The Oilers already had an alternate design done by part-owner Todd McFarlane. I appreciate the work done by Mr. Wiebe, but they aren’t all that great.
[quote comment=”224805″][quote comment=”224760″]What do you guys make of link? It looks like it has some concept logos and uniforms for various hockey leagues including the NHL.[/quote]
If you back up to their main webpage and click on ‘Portfolio’ there are other sports represented as well. My guess is that they created these designs but they were not selected by the various teams.[/quote]
link
[quote comment=”224796″]Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.[/quote]
The fact that the Post wrote a story about it tells me there would be some interest in New York. Some smart business type will have his Nicaraguan people go to the village and buy the shirts for like $1 a piece, ship them to the city, and then sell them for $20 outside Yankee Stadium before a Yankees-Red Sox game.
[quote comment=”224814″][quote comment=”224796″]Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.[/quote]
The fact that the Post wrote a story about it tells me there would be some interest in New York. Some smart business type will have his Nicaraguan people go to the village and buy the shirts for like $1 a piece, ship them to the city, and then sell them for $20 outside Yankee Stadium before a Yankees-Red Sox game.[/quote]
The Post is/was so frigging obnoxious about their anti-Patriots coverage that it almost made me want to root against the Giants. It is the newspaper for people who can’t read.
Gotta love Roger link Clemens! That commentary was just awesome, man. Wooooo!! Shake & Bake!
Paul there is a new fashion trend I’m sure you started. At O’Hare this morning, there was a girl who had green stirrups on with her flip-flops.
Shake & Bake, what is that, a catch phrase? Is it epilepsy? [weird french guy voice]
I loved the Seals clips, brought back alot of memories of going to Seals games in Jr. High and High school.
Can’t believe the comments have gone on this long without mention that the needy kids in Nicaragua getting cast-off New England Patriots t-shirts seem to be better dressed than the Pats coach…..and that’s BEFORE they got the t-shirts.
[quote comment=”224823″]Paul there is a new fashion trend I’m sure you started. At O’Hare this morning, there was a girl who had green stirrups on with her flip-flops.[/quote]
No pics??
[quote]The Post is/was so frigging obnoxious about their anti-Patriots coverage that it almost made me want to root against the Giants. It is the newspaper for people who can’t read.[/quote]
they’re homers, what do you expect?
although, in fairness, i think their insipid
* caught cheating
next to the patriots record ALL FUCKIN SEASON long was beyond reprehensible…it was funny for like, one-two weeks, maybe?
aw shucks, when I saw there would be the “Best analysis so far of yesterday’s theatrics”…I eagerly clicked looking for a discussion of Michael Phelps’ junk.
Great story about Harry Broadfoot, the Golden Gopher hockey equipment manager. Especially dig his quote about his job:
“I see other people doing things and I think I don’t have it bad at all. Plus, I work with great personalities, I eat good and I’m getting paid for it.”
[quote comment=”224817″][quote comment=”224814″][quote comment=”224796″]Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.[/quote]
The fact that the Post wrote a story about it tells me there would be some interest in New York. Some smart business type will have his Nicaraguan people go to the village and buy the shirts for like $1 a piece, ship them to the city, and then sell them for $20 outside Yankee Stadium before a Yankees-Red Sox game.[/quote]
The Post is/was so frigging obnoxious about their anti-Patriots coverage that it almost made me want to root against the Giants. It is the newspaper for people who can’t read.[/quote]
That’s what we have to deal with when there’s another major sporting event revolving around a Boston team vs. a New York team.
I love how the Seals documentary uses music from the soundtrack of American Gigolo, starting at 2:38.
[quote comment=”224823″]Paul there is a new fashion trend I’m sure you started. At O’Hare this morning, there was a girl who had green stirrups on with her flip-flops.[/quote]
Wait..as in Chicago O’Hare?? It’s freakin’ 20 degrees here today…what the hell is she doing wearing flip flops?
[quote comment=”224835″]Can’t believe the comments have gone on this long without mention that the needy kids in Nicaragua getting cast-off New England Patriots t-shirts seem to be better dressed than the Pats coach…..and that’s BEFORE they got the t-shirts.[/quote]
True
They should have instead sold those t-shirts on Ebay, and then give all of the profits to Nicaragua. I bet those t-shirts would go for a pretty penny as gag gifts!!!!
No mention about the Congressman who asked Shake & Bake which uniform he was going to wear in the HOF?? Greenberg mentioned it this morning and he was annoyed 1. with the question and 2. he said “you don’t wear a uniform in the HOF”
Not sure if this has been mentioned on Uni Watch yet, but Steve Nash wears sneakers made from recycled materials…….
link
I think I remember last year that some of the Uni Watcher Faithful also watch Big Brother. Things are already heating up in the BB house and one house guest who is a “bikini barista” (Natalie) has some sweet pics of her on my space. To make this uni related, here she is in some sweet socks!
link
[quote comment=”224862″]Not sure if this has been mentioned on Uni Watch yet, but Steve Nash wears sneakers made from recycled materials…….
link
….it was in the ticker TODAY….
[quote comment=”224862″]Not sure if this has been mentioned on Uni Watch yet, but Steve Nash wears sneakers made from recycled materials…….
link
It was. Today.
Will Brinson reports that Steve Nash is wearing sneakers that are made entirely from recycled materials.
[quote comment=”224862″]Not sure if this has been mentioned on Uni Watch yet, but Steve Nash wears sneakers made from recycled materials…….
link
joey…do you just skip down to the comments???
Way off topic, but somebody PLEASE do a follow up on that guy tatooing the Brady’s helmet on his head!!! I hope he jumped the gun and put 19-0 on his stupid scalp.
[quote comment=”224796″]Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.[/quote]
Part of the reason they do it is to keep that stuff off the market in the US. Or, at least, that’s a bonus. But there’s a reason they don’t just give it to homeless people here or sell it here. They want it out of sight, but still where it can do some good.
[quote comment=”224850″][quote comment=”224823″]Paul there is a new fashion trend I’m sure you started. At O’Hare this morning, there was a girl who had green stirrups on with her flip-flops.[/quote]
Wait..as in Chicago O’Hare?? It’s freakin’ 20 degrees here today…what the hell is she doing wearing flip flops?[/quote]
Lot of flip-flops today at ORD. Spring break starts early.
I’m swooning over the Seals footage…
That was my team, back in the day. I lived and breathed Seals hockey from 3,000 miles away in NY… (see my membership card for confirmation)
VERY interesting thing at the beginning of that video, where they show the dark jersey – its their first year jersey style with a big wordmark “Seals” across the front above the logo – very similar to the “Vancouver” wordmark on the new Canucks jerseys!!!!!
I’d never seen that before. That has to be a prototype jersey because I’ve never seen any game action photos of that jersey. As mysterious as that Musial Cardinals jersey!!!! What a theme day!
– Jet
[quote comment=”224772″]That California Golden Seals video is the first i’ve seen of the white skates on the ice.[/quote]
PAUL: Have you ever done a Uniwatch segment on the pro hockey teams that have worn colored skates??
You have the Seals with three different variations:
– yellow with green trim
– white with green trim
– all white with green laces
And also:
NY Golden Blades of the WHA – all white
and:
St. Louis Blues and Pittsburgh Penguins briefly wore colored skates similar to the Seals yellow/green look. In Pitt’s case, it was with their powder blue/dark blue color scheme. I think Detroit may also have done this as well, briefly.
I have a picture of St.Louis’ colored skates if you want, and somewhere I’m pretty sure I have a pic of the Penguins’ skates.
-Jet
[quote comment=”224796″]Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.[/quote]
great point. with the supply so small and the demand so great from collectors, card guys, etc. you could raise a mint by auctioning them off and then taking that cash and giving real aid.
i have the same gripe with that show “home makeover”. i know all that stuff is donated but they could help a dozen or more families get new or updated housing by simply building modest housing fitting the families needs rather than building a 4 person family a three quarters of a million dollar house with amenities the kids will grow out of in a year.
Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.
The fact that the Post wrote a story about it tells me there would be some interest in New York. Some smart business type will have his Nicaraguan people go to the village and buy the shirts for like $1 a piece, ship them to the city, and then sell them for $20 outside Yankee Stadium before a Yankees-Red Sox game.
The Post is/was so frigging obnoxious about their anti-Patriots coverage that it almost made me want to root against the Giants. It is the newspaper for people who can’t read.
That’s what we have to deal with when there’s another major sporting event revolving around a Boston team vs. a New York team.
The Post is one of the most entertaining reads there is. A recent example: When Ike Turner died, the obituary was headlined: “Ike ‘Beats’ Tina to Death”
How can you not enjoy such brilliance?
link
[quote comment=”224905″]great point. with the supply so small and the demand so great from collectors, card guys, etc. you could raise a mint by auctioning them off and then taking that cash and giving real aid.[/quote]
A “mint?”
Seriously, how many of these were made for that day (with the rest probably held for the final result and the next day)? If the supply is small and demand is great, yeah, the price for them would be higher than a normal t-shirt, but what is it going to be? $500? Is someone that sick that they’re going to pay $400 for a Pats’ 19-0 t-shirt?
I don’t know how many were made or what someone would pay, but I’d be surprised if you could generate a “mint” from Pats’ 19-0 t-shirts. Or that it could make a huge dent in their problem.
[quote comment=”224747″]I have to give an informative speech in my communications class. I want to do something uni related. Does anyone have any good ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-B[/quote]
One idea that I think would go over well is to take a team local to the area and talk about the history of their uniform. Make sure to talk about the “why”s of changing their uniform, as well as how the uniform changed their materials over time.
[quote comment=”224907″]
Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.
The fact that the Post wrote a story about it tells me there would be some interest in New York. Some smart business type will have his Nicaraguan people go to the village and buy the shirts for like $1 a piece, ship them to the city, and then sell them for $20 outside Yankee Stadium before a Yankees-Red Sox game.
The Post is/was so frigging obnoxious about their anti-Patriots coverage that it almost made me want to root against the Giants. It is the newspaper for people who can’t read.
That’s what we have to deal with when there’s another major sporting event revolving around a Boston team vs. a New York team.
The Post is one of the most entertaining reads there is. A recent example: When Ike Turner died, the obituary was headlined: “Ike ‘Beats’ Tina to Death”
How can you not enjoy such brilliance?[/quote]
That’s what happens when you’re owned by Rupert Murdoch…
[quote comment=”224907″]The Post is one of the most entertaining reads there is. A recent example: When Ike Turner died, the obituary was headlined: “Ike ‘Beats’ Tina to Death”
How can you not enjoy such brilliance?[/quote]
That was classic.
“HEADLESS BODY IN TOPLESS BAR” is still probably the best work from them, but Ike Beats Tina to Death is right up there.
In the non-US category, when Inverness Caledonian Thistle beat Celtic in the Scottish Cup a few years back, the headline in one of the papers (might have been the Guardian) was “SUPER CALLEY GOES BALLISTIC, CELTIC ARE ATROCIOUS.”
That’s money as well.
[quote comment=”224907″]
Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.
The fact that the Post wrote a story about it tells me there would be some interest in New York. Some smart business type will have his Nicaraguan people go to the village and buy the shirts for like $1 a piece, ship them to the city, and then sell them for $20 outside Yankee Stadium before a Yankees-Red Sox game.
The Post is/was so frigging obnoxious about their anti-Patriots coverage that it almost made me want to root against the Giants. It is the newspaper for people who can’t read.
That’s what we have to deal with when there’s another major sporting event revolving around a Boston team vs. a New York team.
The Post is one of the most entertaining reads there is. A recent example: When Ike Turner died, the obituary was headlined: “Ike ‘Beats’ Tina to Death”
How can you not enjoy such brilliance?[/quote]
I link.
[quote comment=”224867″]I think I remember last year that some of the Uni Watcher Faithful also watch Big Brother. Things are already heating up in the BB house and one house guest who is a “bikini barista” (Natalie) has some sweet pics of her on my space. To make this uni related, here she is in some sweet socks!
link[/quote]
All I see is some lady in a blue shirt yelling at the camera. No socks.
[quote comment=”224796″]Nice to see the Nicaraguan kids are getting clothes, but just think about how much food and (appropriate) clothing they could afford with the money made by selling these shirts and hats to cynical/ironic American fans.[/quote]
Isn’t it worse that we are teaching Nicaraguan children improper history? Won’t they all think the Patriots actually won and went undefeated? We continue to do a disservice. Just give them money for schools.
[quote comment=”224918″]All I see is some lady in a blue shirt yelling at the camera. No socks.[/quote]
Yeah, but that’s hot.
[quote comment=”224914″][quote comment=”224747″]I have to give an informative speech in my communications class. I want to do something uni related. Does anyone have any good ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-B[/quote]
One idea that I think would go over well is to take a team local to the area and talk about the history of their uniform. Make sure to talk about the “why”s of changing their uniform, as well as how the uniform changed their materials over time.[/quote]
Thanks a lot that sounds like a good idea.
-B
[quote comment=”224818″]Gotta love Roger link Clemens! That commentary was just awesome, man. Wooooo!! Shake & Bake![/quote]
I actually thought that it was pretty bad.
[quote comment=”224914″][quote comment=”224747″]I have to give an informative speech in my communications class. I want to do something uni related. Does anyone have any good ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-B[/quote]
One idea that I think would go over well is to take a team local to the area and talk about the history of their uniform. Make sure to talk about the “why”s of changing their uniform, as well as how the uniform changed their materials over time.[/quote]
Make sure you get some visual aids as well. :)
Here they are, Johan Santana’s first pictures in Mets paraphenelia (sp?)
link
link
GREY?!?!?! GET THE MAN A BLUE T-SHIRT. HES A MET!
[quote comment=”224890″][quote comment=”224772″]That California Golden Seals video is the first i’ve seen of the white skates on the ice.[/quote]
PAUL: Have you ever done a Uniwatch segment on the pro hockey teams that have worn colored skates??
You have the Seals with three different variations:
– yellow with green trim
– white with green trim
– all white with green laces
And also:
NY Golden Blades of the WHA – all white
and:
St. Louis Blues and Pittsburgh Penguins briefly wore colored skates similar to the Seals yellow/green look. In Pitt’s case, it was with their powder blue/dark blue color scheme. I think Detroit may also have done this as well, briefly.
I have a picture of St.Louis’ colored skates if you want, and somewhere I’m pretty sure I have a pic of the Penguins’ skates.
-Jet[/quote]
I’m not sure I understand how this worked. Did the teams wear some kind of cover over the boot, or did the skates actually come colored from the manufacturer?
Today’s ESPN column link.
[quote comment=”224913″][quote comment=”224905″]great point. with the supply so small and the demand so great from collectors, card guys, etc. you could raise a mint by auctioning them off and then taking that cash and giving real aid.[/quote]
A “mint?”
Seriously, how many of these were made for that day (with the rest probably held for the final result and the next day)? If the supply is small and demand is great, yeah, the price for them would be higher than a normal t-shirt, but what is it going to be? $500? Is someone that sick that they’re going to pay $400 for a Pats’ 19-0 t-shirt?
I don’t know how many were made or what someone would pay, but I’d be surprised if you could generate a “mint” from Pats’ 19-0 t-shirts. Or that it could make a huge dent in their problem.[/quote]
i would think that card dealers and collectors would pay upwards of $500 for an item like this. look what they pay for some of the memorabilia now! in fact someone like robert kraft might even offer an enormous sum just so those items would never make it to collectors.
lets say 100 shirts and hats were on hand. and suppose $5000 is generated from the auction of these items.
isnt $5000 in food, water, shelter and clothes that actually fit children better than 100 shirts and 100 hats designed to fit 6’6 350 giants?
nice column PL
is that link wearing the gladiator?
Paul’s article on the Gladiator helmet: I know they look funny, but a lot of groundbreaking designs look strange at first and then are ultimately accepted. (The original Ford Taurus comes to mind.) If these are truly a much better product in terms of safety, what’s the big deal?
In the far left of link from Paul’s column, the player #82 seems to be wearing an early version of a Bike/Schutt helmet. Check out the nose bumper. As is Steve Wallace in the Procaplink. Which is interesting becasue Kelso wore a Riddell.
[quote comment=”224760″]What do you guys make of link? It looks like it has some concept logos and uniforms for various hockey leagues including the NHL.[/quote]
I thing that link looks like a demented pumpkin, and link should never see the light of day (too many bad memories associated with teal and the “Fish sticks” jerseys), although I do dig the link on the jersey
[quote comment=”224958″]nice column PL
is that link wearing the gladiator?[/quote]
whoops…
wrong kelso
is link mark kelso?
[quote comment=”224963″]Paul’s article on the Gladiator helmet: I know they look funny, but a lot of groundbreaking designs look strange at first and then are ultimately accepted. (The original Ford Taurus comes to mind.) If these are truly a much better product in terms of safety, what’s the big deal?[/quote]
The release of automotive innovations have recently coincided with Motion Picture releases:
The link
link
link
in Robocop
[quote comment=”224963″]Paul’s article on the Gladiator helmet: I know they look funny, but a lot of groundbreaking designs look strange at first and then are ultimately accepted. (The original Ford Taurus comes to mind.) If these are truly a much better product in terms of safety, what’s the big deal?[/quote]
I don’t know. I still haven’t gotten used to the Riddell Revolution helmet and it’s been around several years. Then again, I think the Ford Taurus looks like shit too.
Ack, what happened to that Jersey Joe ad at the top of the page?!?
agreed that there will be push back on this new “gladiator” helmet, but not because of the helmet, its because of the facemask.
often times on here i cant distinguish what is being discussed when there are helmet debates. schutt/ridell/ion/revolution… i have no clue. all i ever see are the facemasks.
and i think that until the facemask is changed on the “gladiator” to something that looks “cool” only a few experienced veterans who have serious concerns for their future well being will even consider it.
[quote comment=”224983″]agreed that there will be push back on this new “gladiator” helmet, but not because of the helmet, its because of the facemask.[/quote]
it’s not just the link…although that’s ugly as sin…it’s the fact that the helmet itself (at least in the linked pic) looks like to be link
maybe if a 6’6″, 350 lb. lineman models it, it won’t look so stoopid, but it’s kind of hard to get past both the facemask and the helmet’s size right now
Funny Kelvin Sampson (Indiana coach) cartoon:
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[quote comment=”224956″]i would think that card dealers and collectors would pay upwards of $500 for an item like this. look what they pay for some of the memorabilia now! in fact someone like robert kraft might even offer an enormous sum just so those items would never make it to collectors.
lets say 100 shirts and hats were on hand. and suppose $5000 is generated from the auction of these items.
isnt $5000 in food, water, shelter and clothes that actually fit children better than 100 shirts and 100 hats designed to fit 6’6 350 giants?[/quote]
$5,000 would be great, probably better than shirts and hats, I grant you. Nicaragua has the third-lowest per-capita income in the Western Hemisphere, though, so it’s not going to make a huge dent in their plight.
Nor is $5,000 a “mint.”
And I remain skeptical you’d pay $500 for a t-shirt you could basically make yourself for
Can this prototype helmet be any bigger? OMG!
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Here’s the matching equipment to go with this helmet….
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Let’s try that again, thank you very much blog software:
[quote comment=”224956″]i would think that card dealers and collectors would pay upwards of $500 for an item like this. look what they pay for some of the memorabilia now! in fact someone like robert kraft might even offer an enormous sum just so those items would never make it to collectors.
lets say 100 shirts and hats were on hand. and suppose $5000 is generated from the auction of these items.
isnt $5000 in food, water, shelter and clothes that actually fit children better than 100 shirts and 100 hats designed to fit 6’6 350 giants?[/quote]
$5,000 would be great, probably better than shirts and hats, I grant you. Nicaragua has the third-lowest per-capita income in the Western Hemisphere, though, so it’s not going to make a huge dent in their plight.
Nor is $5,000 a “mint.”
And I remain skeptical you’d pay $500 for a t-shirt you could basically make yourself for
Cold Steel on Ice. Commit to the Indian!!!
Blackhawks Hockey. Let’s Take It Outside!!!
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You know what? To hell with it. You’re right. Nicaraguans would enjoy the highest standard of living in Central America thanks to Patriots 19-0 t-shirts. And they could use some of the leftover money to buy blog software that doesn’t suck.
[quote comment=”224983″]agreed that there will be push back on this new “gladiator” helmet, but not because of the helmet, its because of the facemask.
often times on here i cant distinguish what is being discussed when there are helmet debates. schutt/ridell/ion/revolution… i have no clue. all i ever see are the facemasks.
and i think that until the facemask is changed on the “gladiator” to something that looks “cool” only a few experienced veterans who have serious concerns for their future well being will even consider it.[/quote]
This discussion does not differ at all from those that I had at the beginning of the 2002-03 NFL season. That is the year that the Revolution wAS first worn in the league on a regular basis. The first player to wear one in a game setting was James Hodgins of the Rams during the Super Bowl against the Patriots.
Sam Madison, while with the Dolphins, was the first high profile veteran to rock the revo, and everyone thought he was crazy for doing so.
Innovation is often ahead of it’s time and the masses often gawk at the products brought forth.
In the sneaker world, five examples come to mind:
Air Jordan I
Reebok Omni(Pump)
Nike Air Foamposite One
Nike Shox VC
Adidas Kobe Two
Kobe, much like the masses, disliked the Kobe Two so much that he broke his contract with Adidas thus causing one of the biggest sneaker/apparel free-for-alls in history.
Adidas Kobe 2
The Chad Johnson line is priceless. Nice work!
PS: And how funny is it that the Jersey Joe ad features the Padres sand camo alt, and a green Mets jersey. At least it’s not black.
Nonetheless, I agree with Todd concerning the acceptance factor. If someone like LaDanian chose to wear one, first of all it wouldn’t be much of a deviance from his present lid, but many other players would follow suit, not to mention the High School, Modified, and Pop Warner kids who would want to be just like their idols.
We are all very fickle, myself included. As I look at the Gladiator, I’m reminded of link, however I wouldn’t be any different than the lemmings that I mentioned above.
I have been and always will be a link though!
Code Red by Col Nathan Jessup-Clemens
Clemens: You want answers?
Congressman: I think I’m entitled to them.
Clemens: You want answers?
Congressman: I want the truth!
Clemens: You can’t handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has
baseballs. And those balls have to be hit by men with bats. Who’s gonna
do it? You? You, Congressman? I have a greater responsibility than you
can possibly fathom. You weep for steroids and you curse HGH. You have
that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that HGH,
while illegal, probably sells tickets. And my existence, while
grotesque
and incomprehensible to you, sells tickets…You don’t want the truth.
Because deep down, in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want
me on that mound. You need me on that mound. We use words like
fastball,
slider, splitfinger…we use these words as the backbone to a life
spent
playing a sport. You use ’em as a punchline. I have neither the time
nor
the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and falls asleep
to
the Sportscenter clips I provide, then questions the manner in which I
provide it! I’d rather you just said thank you and went on your way.
Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a bat and dig in. Either way, I don’t
give a damn what you think you’re entitled to!
Congressman: Did you order the HGH?
Clemens: (quietly) I did the job you sent me to do.
Congressman: Did you order the HGH?
Clemens: You’re god damn right I did!!
I’m pretty sure that link is NOT official St. Louis Cardinals Spring Training attire….Stay Classy, Izzy!!
[quote comment=”224918″][quote comment=”224867″]I think I remember last year that some of the Uni Watcher Faithful also watch Big Brother. Things are already heating up in the BB house and one house guest who is a “bikini barista” (Natalie) has some sweet pics of her on my space. To make this uni related, here she is in some sweet socks!
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All I see is some lady in a blue shirt yelling at the camera. No socks.[/quote]
The link didn’t work? Here is another link The one with Natalie in the socks is kind of in the middle.
Plus if you are a fan of Big Brother DO NOT scroll down past the pics. because there are a ton of spoilers for the show.
[quote comment=”224991″]$5,000 would be great, probably better than shirts and hats, I grant you. Nicaragua has the third-lowest per-capita income in the Western Hemisphere, though, so it’s not going to make a huge dent in their plight.
Nor is $5,000 a “mint.”
And I remain skeptical you’d pay $500 for a t-shirt you could basically make yourself for[/quote]
so it’s not going to make a huge dent in their plight.
of course its not gonna make a “huge dent”, a term you continuosly seem to use in this discussion. but just because a means to raise money for aid wont make an enormous impact on the problem or solve it all together, doesnt mean it should be discounted, abandoned and substituted with team apparel.
Nor is $5,000 a “mint.”
perhaps in the grand scheme of things, to the neighborhood that received the team apparel, $5000 is a mint. perhaps not. however please accept my apologies for my semantics in my haphazard use of the term “mint” and the corresponding dollar amount with which it is attached.
And I remain skeptical you’d pay $500 for a t-shirt you could basically make yourself for
you dont have to be skeptical, your’e absolutely right. “I” wouldnt spend that amount. which is why in my previous 2 posts in this discussion i mentioned that it would be collectors and card dealers who would.
[quote comment=”224996″]You know what? To hell with it. You’re right. Nicaraguans would enjoy the highest standard of living in Central America thanks to Patriots 19-0 t-shirts. And they could use some of the leftover money to buy blog software that doesn’t suck.[/quote]
I think the Nicaragua people need to pool their money and buy one of those $150 laptops. Those people down there could sell those shirts themselves on Ebay!
[quote comment=”225011″]I’m pretty sure that link is NOT official St. Louis Cardinals Spring Training attire….Stay Classy, Izzy!![/quote]
Wonder why they used a flipped Y for the ‘Y’ and a W rotated 180 degrees for the ‘M’.
[quote comment=”225011″]I’m pretty sure that link is NOT official St. Louis Cardinals Spring Training attire….Stay Classy, Izzy!![/quote]
Am I the only one that thought that was link at first glance?
Kobe, much like the masses, disliked the Kobe Two so much that he broke his contract with Adidas thus causing one of the biggest sneaker/apparel free-for-alls in history.
Jeez, whoever thought link would actually look good?!
Remember when Adidas tried to link with the whole lace thing? What a bad idea.
scott b.
that jessup/clemens waxman/caffey portrayal of a few good men is absolute genius.
kudos to you.
hope you dont mind if…
a. i sent it out to my nonsense email crowd
b. i use it as a comedy skit at my club’s next event.
[quote comment=”225041″]Kobe, much like the masses, disliked the Kobe Two so much that he broke his contract with Adidas thus causing one of the biggest sneaker/apparel free-for-alls in history.
Jeez, whoever thought link would actually look good?!
Remember when Adidas tried to link with the whole lace thing? What a bad idea.[/quote]
as a sneakerhead and more so nikehead, i tend not to pay attention to those other shoe companies. but when adidas halted the KB8 line and started the KOBE line. i couldnt help but look.
the KOBE was an absolutely beautiful shoe. it was designed in conjunction with audi and modeled after the audi tt.
when the KOBETWO was released, the design was basically something that had never been seen before. although not as aesthetically pleasing as the KOBE, i thought it was the most revolutionary thing in sneaker design in years. maybe dating back to the advent of air soles. i ended up REALLY liking the look of that shoe even though it was looked at as a failure.
kobe leaves, however the design team at adidas had a KOBEIII all ready. and just when i thought that the shoe game couldnt get any more innovative or revolutionary… they gave us this sample.
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sure, its unorthodox, but often times innovation is unorthodox. as much as i want to say that its an ugly shoe, i cant because im drawn to its design features. this shoe is about as close to an automobile as you can get with all those vents!
adidas really dumped all of their r&d money into those KOBE shoes, and its a shame that it didnt pan out because that would have thrown down the gauntlet for competing companies to design revolutionary footwear.
[quote comment=”225055″]the KOBE was an absolutely beautiful shoe. it was designed in conjunction with audi and modeled after the audi tt.[/quote]
unfortunately, the link never really gained any traction
As per the Blackhawks idea to go outside at Soldier Field next year, why not have them play the Red Wings in the throwbacks?
Shooting at Northern Illinois University, new black band will, I’m sure be on all MAC unis.
WTF? no stripes?
A kindergarten in northern Sweden has introduced an unusual form of dress code, banning staff and children from wearing clothes with stripes or dots, a news report said today.
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/slow uni-news day or what?
Hey guys,
I want to purchase a 1999 Seattle Mariners alternate jersey. I can’t find one anywhere. Any ideas? Thanks.
when the KOBETWO was released, the design was basically something that had never been seen before. although not as aesthetically pleasing as the KOBE, i thought it was the most revolutionary thing in sneaker design in years. maybe dating back to the advent of air soles. i ended up REALLY liking the look of that shoe even though it was looked at as a failure.
Again, I am going to echo what Todd has said. I am a Nike disciple 1000 percent,especially when it comes to performance footwear. Having played three sports since first grade, it was always Nike or nothing. The one year that I went with the Reebok football cleats that my college football program provided, my feet paid a definite price.
Over the years, the only company that has ever made me take a second look was Adidas, starting with their feet you wear line, Keyshawn Johnson era, the start of the Kobe era. Actually before that it was the Response Trail line of running shoes which have always been favorites of mine.
Nike always gets credit for pushing the innovative envelope, however the Kobe one and two in my mind were things of beauty. I think the Kobe 3 would have been incredible, although decades before its’ time.
There was one other Nike, that I thought to be so absolutely beautiful design-wise that I would have never been able to wear it for their intended purpose: link. They were only produced in a black-matte “colorway” yet samples popped up everywhere in link, Team Bank, colors that I would have jumped at. Again a design way ahead of it’s time, the shoe quickly hit the discount racks and faded away only to be remembered wistfully on boards like this and the ever-entertaining Niketalk.
Since the board seems a bit “tired” today, I am hoping that the only uniforms to be seen tonight, male or female, will include items from such NSFW sources as link, link, link, or link!
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A good night to all, here’s hoping for alot of November bbirthdays this year!!!!!
[quote comment=”225045″]scott b.
that jessup/clemens waxman/caffey portrayal of a few good men is absolute genius.
kudos to you.
hope you dont mind if…
a. i sent it out to my nonsense email crowd
b. i use it as a comedy skit at my club’s next event.[/quote]
Not to say this concept was “lifted” but it did appear as a reader letter in SI last spring with the NCAA taking the role of Jessup. It still works but the original was a masterpiece.
[quote comment=”225085″]Since the board seems a bit “tired” today, I am hoping that the only uniforms to be seen tonight, male or female, will include items from such NSFW sources as link, link, link, or link!
[/quote]
That’s doubtful, it’s a UEFA Cup night…
I don’t care who wrote it originally…that few good men/clemens thing is freakin’ genius.
The guy who runs the Cardinals’ Hall of Fame is named Brian FINCH???? That’s brilliant.
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According to this line (not sure if its been posted already):
“For the first time since Paul O’Neill retired, No. 21 has been given out at Yankees camp — to Morgan Ensberg”
and
“while Phil Hughes gave Sean Henn a steak dinner to change from No. 65 to Henn’s No. 34.”
From a good article called “Yankees by the numbers.”
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~Ryan
geez that old lady is only an alternate captain???! what are they looking for in a captain? more experience?
[quote comment=”224976″][quote comment=”224963″]Paul’s article on the Gladiator helmet: I know they look funny, but a lot of groundbreaking designs look strange at first and then are ultimately accepted. (The original Ford Taurus comes to mind.) If these are truly a much better product in terms of safety, what’s the big deal?[/quote]
The release of automotive innovations have recently coincided with Motion Picture releases:
The link
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Wasn’t the Ford Taurus used in “Runaway” in 1984? “Robocop” came out in 1987.
Anyone else find link funny
A game used Carl Pavano jersey
Hes only pitched in like 10 games for the Yankees so its pretty rare haha
Not sure if this has been posted yet or not but this is right up your alley Paul.
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In the light of the tragic events at NIU, all athletic events have been cancelled including Saturday’s “Think Pink” women’s basketball game where NIU was to wear pink-trimmed uniforms against Ohio University.
Please, no sarcastic comments about the unis in wake of the news, thank you.
Burning the midnight oil, as I just got home from a rather decent night and can’t go to sleep…
CNBC’s Darren Rovell, he of the Nike documentary “Swoosh”, digs up link he received after the documentary premiered on Tuesday.
There is a Nike base in my town, of all places. I have never been up there to find any evidence of plagiarism, myabe this weekend I’ll have to take the hike up the mountain.
In answer to E_Ro’s question yesterday about how the few hockey teams got the colored skates –
I can only answer for the Seals. In a book about the team that came out last year called “Shorthanded”, it was mentioned that the trainer actually painted the skates with white paint, which caused them to feel heavier!! As they got scuffed up, he had to keep repainting them!! No wonder the Seals looked like they were dragging at times, they were carrying around all that extra weight!!
-Jet