Winter Classic

What the hell was Favre using on his nose

Looks like a chemical hand warmer that he stuck in his head wrap on the sidelines fairly often in the second half.

Wow, my brother and I had a ton of stuff from those Sears and JC Penney Catalogs. I had the NFL bedding, he had a wastebasket, we both had the pajamas. Great stuff.

Sure, Indy has the Indy 500 and the Brickyard 400, but Charlotte is home to just about every NASCAR team in the sport. Plus you have quite a few tracks around that area.

“Faaaascinating article here about how Flying Elvis was designed, although the designer and the guy who wrote the article both seem to think that Elvis is cool and that Pat Patriot was lame, which should give you an idea of how clueless they both are.”

You’re absolutely right on this, and the story was written by Bill Plaschke. ‘Nuff said.

Links in that top article are screwy.

And Lance Alworth has one l, not two, in his last name.

– What the hell was Favre using on his nose?

It was a hand warmer.

Lots of link were unveiled at Friday’s draft (with thanks to Steven Lewis). …

Anyone else notice that the horizontal Adidas stripes that have been on D.C. United’s shirts basically since their inception were missing from that pic?

Makes me wonder if they don’t have a shirt sponsorship deal in the works, and they can’t display it because it hasn’t been finalized.

I always kinda assumed that “Adidas” was their shirt sponsor; those stripes are a darn find advertisement, and everyone knows what they mean.

Aren’t those “stripes” more like unecessary piping that detracts from the uniform?

yesterday during the football games there was a commercial with a lot of old football footage. One thing of note I saw in there was a clip of a Bengals with the number 68 (i think) hand-drawn on his helmet, but his jersey was a different number. I can’t remember the product it was pitching for but if anyone saw it, can you let me know. It’d be a good little research project…

I like UConn’s new jerseys. I already comes self-diagrammed for everything that’s wrong with it!

Let’s try that 2nd link again.
link.

[quote comment=”207499″]Anybody notice the QB’s in each game yesterday had a green dot on the back of their helmet?

|sarcasm|[/quote]
Anyone notice that this isn’t funny anymore?
|serious|
Please excuse me if I have an attitude problem today, I’m a Packer fan. But seriously, can we give the green dot thing a rest?

[quote comment=”207459″]Wow, my brother and I had a ton of stuff from those Sears and JC Penney Catalogs. I had the NFL bedding, he had a wastebasket, we both had the pajamas. Great stuff.[/quote]

i link oh…35 years ago…

[quote]I have a dream of a world without logo creep, of a Mets uniform set featuring only orange, blue, and white, and of the New York Football Giants winning one more championship for my old man, a lifelong Jints fan who turns 84 this week and probably never thought he’d get to see his team in another Super Bowl. Whoo-hoo, Big Blue![/quote]

wow paul…ditto on both accounts…my dad just turned 80 and *snif* i went over to his house yesterday to watch the game…maybe i should have checked the attic to see if my parents saved link

[quote comment=”207493″]Charlotte is homoe of the NASCAR hall of fame. That is the connection[/quote]

freudian slip?

“And besides, shouldn’t the Pacers have first dibs on racing-related tie-ins? Not one of the NBA’s better ideas.”

I would say no. Indianapolis may have one big race (which has suffered a major decline in importance over the past two decades), but the NASCAR teams are all based in North Carolina and are a major source of jobs and tax revenue for the area. Thus, Charlotte is the logical team to cross-promote NASCAR.

Alot of Packers had built in jersey hand warmers yesterday. It also looked like some players might have had solid body fabric instead of mesh below the yoke. I’m not sure but it looked dull and I didn’t see the normal mesh look?????? What can you find out Paul? Also, what was with black thermal head covers for the Packers- why not Dark Green?????

[quote comment=”207491″]yesterday during the football games there was a commercial with a lot of old football footage. One thing of note I saw in there was a clip of a Bengals with the number 68 (i think) hand-drawn on his helmet, but his jersey was a different number. I can’t remember the product it was pitching for but if anyone saw it, can you let me know. It’d be a good little research project…[/quote]
That was Anthony Munoz. I saw that #68 sharpied between the stripes too.

“Louisiana’s basketball team”

should read Louisiana-Lafayette’s basketball team

[quote comment=”207516″]
fantastic, thank you. any idea as to why 68 was sharpied on there?[/quote]
Not yet. But you can kinda see something written above Munoz’s ear hole on this page:
link

I also LOVE collingsworth’s picture. ha ha

So, the old pics prove that the NYG have had red prominent in their unis before and that yesterday was not an aberration. Good. I like the fact that my preference (red over blue) has historical background.

I am also clueless because I don’t like Pat Patriot. I don’t like the Flying Elvis, either, though–so I guess they cancel each other out.

As for the UConn alts, I give them a thumbs up. The silver is a nice change, and I like that it’s being used as a dominant color for once.

I have no interest in the Super Bowl now (though I would like the Giants to win just to see Peyton’s head explode when his little brother wins a Super Bowl earlier in his career than Peyton did in his), but based on unis alone and the fact that I normally root for the underdog, I am slightly leaning towards the Giants.

The MLS jerseys seem to be a marginal improvement, but I don’t get why that “REVOLUTION” font keeps getting used. If timelessness is a hallmark of great design, that font guarantees an expiration date for any style.

–link

[quote comment=”207522″][quote comment=”207516″]
fantastic, thank you. any idea as to why 68 was sharpied on there?[/quote]
Not yet. But you can kinda see something written above Munoz’s ear hole on this page:
link

I also LOVE collingsworth’s picture. ha ha[/quote]

The Bengals of the late 80s often paid tribute to injured teammates by writing their uniform numbers on their helmets. I believe #68 was for Joe Walter, an OL that was injured earlier in the season. That was before the NFL put the kibosh on such things.

[quote] I immediately peeled off all the decals and painted the helmet purple.[/quote]

forever cementing the viking super bowl jinx

[quote] based on unis alone and the fact that I normally root for the underdog, I am slightly leaning towards the Giants.[/quote]

oh c’mon minna, join the dark side for real ;)

[quote comment=”207511″]”And besides, shouldn’t the Pacers have first dibs on racing-related tie-ins? Not one of the NBA’s better ideas.”

I would say no. Indianapolis may have one big race (which has suffered a major decline in importance over the past two decades), but the NASCAR teams are all based in North Carolina and are a major source of jobs and tax revenue for the area. Thus, Charlotte is the logical team to cross-promote NASCAR.[/quote]

Indianapolis has more importance in the larger scale of motor sport. It is the home of the oldest and most attended race (the 500), NASCARs 2nd most important race (Brickyard 400), drag racing’s largest event, the U.S. Nationals, one of two U.S. rounds of MotoGP, the top class of motorcycle racing, and until recently, home of the U.S. Grand Prix in Formula 1. If Indianapolis Motor Speedway weren’t located in the middle of a neighborhood, they would probably have some LeMans type race as well. But if it was strictly a NASCAR promotion, then yeah, Charlotte gets the nod.

Comex is the shirt sponsor for link.

ZANGO is link.

Amigo Energy is link.

Toronto has a shirt sponsor deal with BMO, and as a second-year team, I doubt there are any changes for them. Colorado, shirt-sponsorless (as far as I know), also redesigned last year and seems unlikely for a new design.

To be honest, from what I could tell, Farve was just using a Kleenex or a hanky to wipe his nose because of the cold. There were a couple of shots throughout the game of his face with snot all over his upper lip, gross as as that sounds…or looks.

What a treat to look through those Christmas catalogues 35 years later. Thanks you. Those annuals were the motherlode for a logo inclined boy. I owned evrything from NFL belt buckles to replica helmets to bed spreads to waste baskets, et al. My parents lovingly indulged me in my obsession.

[quote comment=”207470″]“Faaaascinating article here about how Flying Elvis was designed, although the designer and the guy who wrote the article both seem to think that Elvis is cool and that Pat Patriot was lame, which should give you an idea of how clueless they both are.”

You’re absolutely right on this, and the story was written by Bill Plaschke. ‘Nuff said.[/quote]

Plaschke is the king of Doesn’t Get It. He should be the next staffer pushed overboard in Tribune Co’s ongoing purge of the L.A. Times.

[quote comment=”207549″]To be honest, from what I could tell, Farve was just using a Kleenex or a hanky to wipe his nose because of the cold. There were a couple of shots throughout the game of his face with snot all over his upper lip, gross as as that sounds…or looks.[/quote]

i don’t think it’s a handwarmer either…on the OT interception, in one of the myriad replays, you can see whatever it is fall to the ground…

when i saw him using that (ostensibly, i believe, to keep his lungs from freezing between plays), i thought, ‘god…he’s human and he’s old’

it was a great game, don’t get me wrong, but was there really any question as to who was the better team yesterday? the zebras did all they could to keep the pack in the game in the second half

Aren’t those “stripes” more like unecessary piping that detracts from the uniform?

If you like the stripes on the sleeves of the players yesterday in Green Bay, then you’ve also got to like the stripes that run down the side of the Patriots’ jerseys. I personally don’t have a problem with them, but I could see some people arguing that they are unnecessary piping.

We all love old Pat Patriot, but I remember being so happy when the Patriots put him in mothballs. He represented a lot of bad things (i.e., 46-10 in Super Bowl XX, the Sullivan family, Victor Kiam and Shaffer Stadium) and fewer good things (Steve Grogan).

[quote comment=”207512″]Pretty sure it’s been rehashed here regularly, but:

Worst. Super Bowl Logo. Ever!

The only thing those colors remind me of are Loyola Marymount basketball in the early 90’s.[/quote]
Agreed. Looks very cheap and amateurish, not to mention it resembles a car-door. Not sure why they curved Arizona like that. The fonts don’t go together and the colors are horrible.

This will be the longest 2 weeks ever looking at that damn thing. I guess the upside is that it really would have clashed with the Packers unis.

[quote comment=”207528″]Not sure if anyone’s mentioned it here the past day or so…but Sunday’s Outside the Lines featured how teams deal with cold weather. It even had an interview with, I believe, the Bills’ equipment manager on the snowy sidelines of an empty stadium in Buffalo. Does anyone have a link or anything to this that I missed?[/quote]
here you go buddy
link

Favre was using pure rock cocaine.

Just kidding.

WHO DEY

[quote comment=”207502″][quote comment=”207499″]Anybody notice the QB’s in each game yesterday had a green dot on the back of their helmet?

|sarcasm|[/quote]
Anyone notice that this isn’t funny anymore?
|serious|
Please excuse me if I have an attitude problem today, I’m a Packer fan. But seriously, can we give the green dot thing a rest?[/quote]

Pipe down, Junior. It was a joke. I’m sure someone was going to ask it as a serious question today, since every Monday it’s been asked since week 1, so I wanted to beat that person to the punch, so hopefully they don’t ask it today.

Paul, I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the packers’ built in hand warmers, here’s a pretty good picture

link

Thanks, fellas, for the Ahmed Bradshaw screen grabs. Very Zapruder-like!
i immediately thought: “Back….and to the Left!”

one word link

[quote comment=”207578″][quote comment=”207502″][quote comment=”207499″]Anybody notice the QB’s in each game yesterday had a green dot on the back of their helmet?

|sarcasm|[/quote]
Anyone notice that this isn’t funny anymore?
|serious|
Please excuse me if I have an attitude problem today, I’m a Packer fan. But seriously, can we give the green dot thing a rest?[/quote]

Pipe down, Junior. It was a joke.

I’m sure someone was going to ask it as a serious question today, since every Monday it’s been asked since week 1, so I wanted to beat that person to the punch, so hopefully they don’t ask it today.[/quote]

shut up, its stupid.

Just got back from Green Bay, and I am just about thawed out completely. As a lifelong Packers fan, I am obviously kind of pissed off today and not in a very good mood.

Yesterday’s game had just about everything. Great uni’s, great players, great ambiance. You couldn’t have scripted it better. Missed FG, Favre with the ball in OT… and then complete disappointment. I have never seen Lambeau Field clear out quicker than it did last night.

The scene was pretty amazing. My fiance and I were not terribly cold as we were bundled up like an Eskimo, or Inuit. The scene in the bathroom was something else. Dozens of kids bawling their eyes out with their fathers rubbing hand warmers all over them trying to get them warm. So many people were not dressed properly, and they paid for it.

All in all, I am glad I went, but of course very mad at the result. This is going to be the worst two weeks of my life. Two weeks of ESPN talking heads and local news broadcasters saying how they can’t believe the Packers lost, and yadda, yadda, yadda.

Oh well, I am out. Don’t count on me being happy for a few weeks on here.

[quote comment=”207511″]”And besides, shouldn’t the Pacers have first dibs on racing-related tie-ins? Not one of the NBA’s better ideas.”

I would say no. Indianapolis may have one big race (which has suffered a major decline in importance over the past two decades), but the NASCAR teams are all based in North Carolina and are a major source of jobs and tax revenue for the area. Thus, Charlotte is the logical team to cross-promote NASCAR.[/quote]

Indianapolis has two big races. And used to have three.

[quote comment=”207563″][quote comment=”207549″]To be honest, from what I could tell, Farve was just using a Kleenex or a hanky to wipe his nose because of the cold. There were a couple of shots throughout the game of his face with snot all over his upper lip, gross as as that sounds…or looks.[/quote]

i don’t think it’s a handwarmer either…on the OT interception, in one of the myriad replays, you can see whatever it is fall to the ground…

when i saw him using that (ostensibly, i believe, to keep his lungs from freezing between plays), i thought, ‘god…he’s human and he’s old’

it was a great game, don’t get me wrong, but was there really any question as to who was the better team yesterday? the zebras did all they could to keep the pack in the game in the second half[/quote]

Actually I’m almost positive they were handwarmers. I aksed a guy here in the office who’s also a Packer fan, he siad he used the exact same warmers in teh same way when he deer hunts. He said bretahing hot air thru them really helps keep you warm. And on the game, are you kidding me!?? Keeping the Packers in the game? There were 5 or 6 terrible calls in the Giants favor. That BS rough call that lead to a TD, when like 2 series later Favre gets drilled like 2 seconds after a throw, and guess what, no call. Give me a break. Were the Giants better yesterday, no question, the Pack played terrible. But don’t start the ref nonsense, as far as I could tell, not to mention a couple Bears fans I watched the game with, the calls were definitly on the Giants side.

[quote comment=”207587″]DCU has had two paying shirt sponsors, MasterCard in the early years and Sierra Mist for the second Adu year. In both cases the sponsor was relegated to the shirttail and shorts.[/quote]

As they were on all MLS teams.

Because they weren’t team “shirt sponsors” in the way we normally think of them for soccer teams. They were league sponsors who were doled out among the league’s teams to give them some additional exposure. I’m guessing the back-of-the-jersey things have gone away now that there are sponsors on the front.

[quote comment=”207604″]The orange also happens to be one of the colors for Donovan’s club team, the LA Galaxy. It’s pretty common for players to not change cleats when they play for their national team.[/quote]

I do not believe orange is in the Galaxy’s color palette.

[quote comment=”207548″]Man, those old catalogs brought back some memories.

I still have a Steelers knit hat (as featured on link, although the top tassel has long since disappeared.

Incidentally, I used to use a Sears catalog as a “template” for when I’d do my old tracing paper football uniform designs…[/quote]

oh my gosh, I had that Cowboys jacket and stocking cap too!

here’s a pic of us at a link in 1979

and my brother’s link. —NFL comforter, Dolphins trash can with hot Charlie’s Angels stickers on it.

ducks…

i’ll grant there was ONE call (late hit) that went in the giants favor…but please explain to me the third down penalty for “personal foul” which let the pack get a first down (4th quarter) where it happened so far from the action that NO CAMERA EVEN CAPTURED IT…talk about a phantom foul…that shit happens all the time (like hockey players who rough it up down rink while the action has moved to the other end)…

i guess depending upon your rooting interests you’d think the refs were jobbing you (i thought it was the pack getting the calls, you thought the calls went the g-men’s way)

but i have NEVER seen a phantom call (i think it was on spongebob) like the one made yesterday

I have one of those Jacksonville helmets. They aren’t really an authentic helmet, but they were padded with something different than other replica helmets (no pictures, its in my parents garage). They had it at a Champs Sports the year before the team began play. If that guy is getting that much for it, I might be digging through their garage to try and find it.

[quote comment=”207610″][quote comment=”207600″][quote comment=”207511″]”And besides, shouldn’t the Pacers have first dibs on racing-related tie-ins? Not one of the NBA’s better ideas.”

I would say no. Indianapolis may have one big race (which has suffered a major decline in importance over the past two decades), but the NASCAR teams are all based in North Carolina and are a major source of jobs and tax revenue for the area. Thus, Charlotte is the logical team to cross-promote NASCAR.[/quote]

Indianapolis has two big races. And used to have three.[/quote]

The point I was making is that the Pacers actually named after a racing-related term. Pace car, y’know? So they would seem to be the natural team for a racing-related uni pattern.[/quote]

according to wiki:

According to Indianapolis attorney, Richard D. Tinkham, the nickname “Pacers” was decided on through a collective decision of the original investors. Tinkham, one of those investors, recalled that the nickname was a combination of the state’s rich history with the harness racing pacers and the pace car used for the running of the Indianapolis 500. Investor Chuck Barnes was a horse racing enthusiast in addition to being business manager of Mario Andretti, A.J. Foyt and Roger Ward. Barnes’ wife, Lois, suggested the name over dinner.

Tinkham said the “Pacers” decision was an easy one, but the real debate was whether the team should be called the Indiana Pacers or the Indianapolis Pacers. Since one of the original ideas for the team was to have it playing throughout the state with its base in Indianapolis, the official team name became the Indiana Pacers.

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[quote comment=”207611″][quote comment=”207548″]Man, those old catalogs brought back some memories.

I still have a Steelers knit hat (as featured on link, although the top tassel has long since disappeared.

Incidentally, I used to use a Sears catalog as a “template” for when I’d do my old tracing paper football uniform designs…[/quote]

oh my gosh, I had that Cowboys jacket and stocking cap too!

here’s a pic of us at a link in 1979

and my brother’s link. —NFL comforter, Dolphins trash can with hot Charlie’s Angels stickers on it.[/quote]

Awesome pictures!

I had the Cowboys jacket on the left, with the full helmet logo patch, with matching stocking hat.

[quote comment=”207610″]
The point I was making is that the Pacers actually named after a racing-related term. Pace car, y’know? [/quote]

so theyre NOT named after this?

link

[quote comment=”207625″]Of course, I totally missed Chicago getting a front sponsor until late last week. So I’m not completely and totally on the ball.[/quote]

It didn’t happen until late last week. You’re fine.

link

You can sort of see what im talking about link
about the under shirts. Just look at the underarm of the guy on the far left of the picture. You can barely make it out

What’s the PK Memorial decal on the back of that faux Colts helmet from eBay?

Is that in memory of the demise of the career of their former Place Kicker Mike Vanderjagt?

For some reason, Landon Donovan (our captain) decided to go with the orange cleats.

Orange? They look yellow to me…

I’ve been looking for the link online for a long time. Glad someone has some up. Had pajamas, bedspread, sheets & pillowcase and, sad to say, the zip-front cardigan. Never got a jacket or jersey.

I had been wondering if numbers on the jerseys were authentic or not. Turns out they just went with simple white numbers. Probably no one would have paid attention back then.

Don’t know if Wyoming’s own JC Penney was screwy or prescient in showing a blue Bronco jersey twenty-odd years before we saw one elsewhere.

Yesterday I posted that someone had his zipper unzipped during the game (disclaimer: a female friend noticed it and pointed it out). The Ahmad Bradshaw Helmet Explosion play is the moment I was referring to.

If you watch the video, you can see the upper part of his zipper is undone. It’s not quite as undone as some other examples we’ve seen from the past, but it’s there. Bradshaw unintentionally made himself well-known yesterday, uni-wise.

Bradshaw also lost one of his “4”s on the front of his helmet during, I believe, the Buffalo game, the Giants’ second to last game of the season. At first, I thought I remembered it was the Patriots game, but he didn’t play in that game at all.

[quote comment=”207563″][quote comment=”207549″]To be honest, from what I could tell, Farve was just using a Kleenex or a hanky to wipe his nose because of the cold. There were a couple of shots throughout the game of his face with snot all over his upper lip, gross as as that sounds…or looks.[/quote]

i don’t think it’s a handwarmer either…on the OT interception, in one of the myriad replays, you can see whatever it is fall to the ground…

when i saw him using that (ostensibly, i believe, to keep his lungs from freezing between plays), i thought, ‘god…he’s human and he’s old’

it was a great game, don’t get me wrong, but was there really any question as to who was the better team yesterday? the zebras did all they could to keep the pack in the game in the second half[/quote]

In every cold game I’ve ever watched, QB’s and other players have always used hand warmers in their muffs. Why is everyone debating what fell from Favre’s muff? Of course it was a hand warmer. That’s what players use to stay warm! And that was also a hand warmer that he was putting by his face.

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this is my idea for cold weather games, a one piece long sleeve soccer style with under armer sleeve taylored on. mid arm strips, 3 quarter sleeves…ahh

hopefully the picture works

Somewhat uni-related. Enjoy.

[quote comment=”207527″]The MLS jerseys seem to be a marginal improvement, but I don’t get why that “REVOLUTION” font keeps getting used. If timelessness is a hallmark of great design, that font guarantees an expiration date for any style.

–link[/quote]

According to this, Joba is 12. Good job.

Great guest entry today. It echos my feelings exactly, a couple of classic unis with the NYG road white/red being perhaps my favorite football uni ever. I don’t care for the sparkly paint but I guess you can’t have everything. They remind me of the YA Tittle/Sam Huff days of watching football with my father. I could just about hear Marty Glickman and Ray Scott. Oh, and you can add my father to the list of 80-something lifelong Giants fans who is pretty happy today.

The old catalog sites are fantastic! Looking at 78 and 79 in particular, I keep seeing stuff and saying, “I had that!” Probably everyone here between 33 and 40 looked at that hat/coat combo and said “I had a ___________ one!” It was the Bills for me.

[quote comment=”207656″]There needs to be seperate soccer page. Especially the day after NFL conference championships. Maybe the two guys talking soccer should exchange emails?[/quote]

This is idiotic, especially given that there seem to be more books and sites devoted to soccer uniforms than to any other sport. Remember back when Paul caught flak from Cowboy “fans” because he wrote a detailed article about their uniforms? There isn’t a soccer fan alive who would ever question such an article.

[quote]The Packers ’sewn ins’ looked like two access holes to a “muff”[/quote]

i have wondered why players prefer the fanny pack-type muff to the sewn-in muff, especially when you can have mishaps like the seattle-pack game (see: hasselback, matt)…either they’re warmer, or they simply don’t have the sewn-in muff on their jersey

but think about it…whom amongst us wouldn’t prefer clothing with two access holes to a muff?

[quote comment=”207656″]There needs to be seperate soccer page. Especially the day after NFL conference championships. Maybe the two guys talking soccer should exchange emails?

The Packers ‘sewn ins’ looked like two access holes to a “muff” rather than the classic Farve pocket jersey.[/quote]

As a soccer fan I’m going to have to disagree with that completly, much less popular sports get discussed here all the time.

I’m just as curious as a lot of folks on here about the muff/sew-in pockets the Packers Had. i mena what did Driver have in his link(no pun intend) that would make it droop so much?

New link? Not sure how credible this is though.

The outstanding Wilson baseball uniform ad shows the Padres 1978 home white uniform in which they also had a brown road version and a gold alternate – which was usually worn only at home that season. It was a one year only style with the all star game patch on the left sleeve, marking the first time the ASG patch was worn by the host team. The jersey was also one of the few in MLB history to have both the city and nickname on it. Mitchell & Ness incorrectly has never put a uniform number on its replica model of the 1978 home jersey. The brown road jersey shown in the ad was the Padres 1977 road jersey.

Some link of its uniforms for everyone today.

From left to right: US Army Air Corps circa 1917, US Army Air Force OD Green and Khaki circa 1945, US Air Force Class B Duty Uniform circa early 1950’s, USAF Class A Service Dress “Silver Tan” circa 1950-1970, USAF Dress Whites 1960-1990, USAF Dress Blue circa 1980s

All these uniforms are obsolete. I’ll send out current uniforms later, along with some US Military related sports stuff. Maybe someone will notice this and make it an article on the webstie. :)

Love the classic look of the Giants and Pack (and congratulations to the Giants, whom I feared would collapse back around Week 16), but the Giants really need to do something about how their jersey numbers are positioned over their guts and not their chests. Push those things up three inches! That team logo above the number really throws everything off. The “C” captain logo is even positioned too low — look at other teams and you’ll see that logo up closer to the shoulders.

[quote comment=”207614″]ducks…

i’ll grant there was ONE call (late hit) that went in the giants favor…but please explain to me the third down penalty for “personal foul” which let the pack get a first down (4th quarter) where it happened so far from the action that NO CAMERA EVEN CAPTURED IT…talk about a phantom foul…that shit happens all the time (like hockey players who rough it up down rink whie the action has moved to the other end)…

i guess depending upon your rooting interests you’d think the refs were jobbing you (i thought it was the pack getting the calls, you thought the calls went the g-men’s way)

but i have NEVER seen a phantom call (i think it was on spongebob) like the one made yesterday[/quote]

it does not matter if the PF was away from the play, it happened and its against the rules, its a legit penalty.

[quote comment=”207483″]Lots of link were unveiled at Friday’s draft (with thanks to Steven Lewis). …[/quote]

Hey San Jose Earthquakes: DITCH THE BLACK

NFL JERSEY TV NUMBERS QUESTION

Could sonebody please tell me why some NFL teams place the tv numbers too far toward the front of of the jersey. In other words, if it is a two-number player, e.g. #20 Dawkins on the Philadelphia Eagles, on the left shoulder the zero would be placed directly over the Reebok logo and the two would be place up toward the yoke/neck of the jersey (rather than the #20 being centered over the Reebok logo). Here is an example of what I am talking about:
link…

AND WITH REGARD TO THE NY FOOTBALL GIANTS:

Manning had the OPPOSITE placement of his TV numbers last night; the zero on the left shoulder was BEHIND the Reebok logo and the one right above it (rather than the zero being over the Reebok logo and the one to the front of it):

link…

see also the photo at the top of today’s UniWatch blog entry.

YOU CAN SEE THE TV NUMBER PLACEMENT ON THIS SHELDON BROWN EAGLES JESREY. CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHY THE NUMBERS ARE LITERALLY ON THE FRONT OF THE JERSEY RATHER THAN THE SHOULDER?
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Sorry. Fixed that italics for you.

[quote comment=”207702″]Some link of its uniforms for everyone today.

From left to right: US Army Air Corps circa 1917, US Army Air Force OD Green and Khaki circa 1945, US Air Force Class B Duty Uniform circa early 1950’s, USAF Class A Service Dress “Silver Tan” circa 1950-1970, USAF Dress Whites 1960-1990, USAF Dress Blue circa 1980s

All these uniforms are obsolete. I’ll send out current uniforms later, along with some US Military related sports stuff. Maybe someone will notice this and make it an article on the webstie. :)[/quote]

That is a pretty interesting photo, since usually you see those unis in black and white. However, I’m pretty sure it was never OK to cock your hat to the side like an asshole.

Where is the photo or comments on Bart Starr handling the coin flip in his green throwback jersey?

[quote comment=”207605″][quote comment=”207587″]DCU has had two paying shirt sponsors, MasterCard in the early years and Sierra Mist for the second Adu year. In both cases the sponsor was relegated to the shirttail and shorts.[/quote]

As they were on all MLS teams.

Because they weren’t team “shirt sponsors” in the way we normally think of them for soccer teams. They were league sponsors who were doled out among the league’s teams to give them some additional exposure. I’m guessing the back-of-the-jersey things have gone away now that there are sponsors on the front.[/quote]

I think you might be wrong about this.

I have heard that this was additional money going to the specific owners rather than the league office simply giving more play to their sponsors. I am pretty sure some teams never had them as one would expect if the former were the case.

Regardless of the reasoning, this positioning is new and had never happened in MLS until the Red Bulls appeared on the chests of the swamp scum.

I know I should ignore this, but why is talking about soccer unis any less relevant today than than talking about baseball unis? There was substantial news on this front Friday. Those who care are free to discuss it. Others can skim, like I do over hockey sweaters vs. jersey arguments.

No one has to like soccer, but why pick on it just because you know you won’t be shouted down? Pretty petty I’d say.

Re: North Dakota State-style uniforms.

I saw a few of these in use back in the ’60s. In at least one case (Azle HS near Fort Worth) the sleeve insert was in a wide diamond pattern.

The first Dallas jerseys were similar except that the insert went up the shoulder to the neckline.

[quote comment=”207712″][quote comment=”207483″]Lots of link were unveiled at Friday’s draft (with thanks to Steven Lewis). …[/quote]

Hey San Jose Earthquakes: DITCH THE BLACK[/quote]

Ditch the black and the AYSO-esque logo!

Never was a fan of the MLS and their uni choices.
I do like new Columbus Crew uni though and Chivas new joints look much better than the Mexican league’s. Chicago Fire, Real Salt Lake and DC United aren’t bad either. I don’t mind brands placing their logos on a uniform, as long as its small & doesn’t obstruct the design, but Adidas needs to stop placing their triple stripe everywhere.

Large here, author of the lead post by the good grace of King Paul. Want to address Tobi’s assessment of my preference for old uniforms merely because they are old. I’m very aware of how this type of nostalgia acts upon me – it’s an impulse that I am constantly trying to balance in all sorts of writing that I do. Though it can certainly be short-sighted, I don’t think it is necessarily a bad impulse, particularly in the NFL where, as I said in my piece, I feel like the richest eras of the league’s past often get short shrift in its present.

That said, I was most aware of this purely nostalgic edge to my enjoyment yesterday in regards to the Packers uniforms and not the Giants. I’m not sure if, stripped of the Lombardi and frozen tundra associations, that I would feel such attachment to the Pack’s green and yellow. The Giants’ away strip is unquestionably sharp to me aesthetically, and I say that as someone who is too young to have seen it in its original incarnation and also as a born and bred Eagles fan who HATES the freakin Giants. If you’re hating on that away look because it somehow betrays the essential Big Blue-osity of the team, I think you’ve got it all wrong. It’s a great uniform, first of all, and it should fill you with pride to celebrate a connection to Gifford and Huff and Summerall and Conerly and a whole glorious era of Giants history.

As for the Patriots, to me they look like an expansion team. I don’t know exactly what the Boston Pats uni looked like, but the Steve Grogan-era N.E. uni with ole Pat on the helmet was legitimately weird. Not tremendously manly or fear-inspiring I grant you, but I’ll take weird over “sleek” any day.

Thanks again to Paul for letting me sub in today.

[quote comment=”207711″][quote comment=”207483″]Lots of link were unveiled at Friday’s draft (with thanks to Steven Lewis). …

Hey San Jose Earthquakes: DITCH THE BLACK[/quote]

Talking about styling cues from in house any one else thing the new Revolution shirts look alot like the Patriots shirt? Seems to me to have similar piping and side panels.

Of course it could just be that since addias owns Reebok that they took the cues from there.

[quote comment=”207736″]So who thinks this is real?

Game used Jaguars helmet, with a Pat Tillman tribute sticker on it.

We all know that those stickers were only worn for one game.

What are the odds this helmet is from that exact game?

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it does not claim to be game used.

[quote comment=”207731″]
Maybe you were just joking, but if not it seems a bit arrogant to expect people on an open forum to only talk about subjects you are personally interested in.[/quote]
I wish.

Looks like linkis going with the Wrangler jeans this year. Also the Blue Whale Smokeless red chaps.

I agree with Large, Pat the Patriot may not have struck fear in the hearts of the opponent but at least they don’t look like an Arena League team (the silver elvis helmet with RED masks!!!!). Today too many teams change their unis because of a lack of success on the playing field and/or to create more money.

I’m a Giants fan this may be biased, but I love all three Giants jerseys. It’s old school, yet modern.

This morning in the ticker, there was a tidbit concerning the 23rd edition of the Air Jordan and it’s argyle pattern based on UNC Chapel Hill’s basketball unis. On the 25th of this month at only 23 Nike stores worldwide, Nike and Jordan brand are releasing these blue tinged shoes to also tip their hat to the Tar Heels.

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[quote comment=”207774″][quote comment=”207571″][quote comment=”207460″]I am pretty sure that Jaguars helmet is legit – they were going to go with that logo until the car maker of the same name threatened to sue. Said the logo was too similar.

That’s when they went with the head logo and switched to a black helmet.[/quote]

The Jags helmet is legit and they had to change it based upon complaints. My in-laws live in J’ville and we have a mug and a shirt with the “wrong” logo. I’ll take some pictures and post.[/quote]

no on is denying that it is a real logo, the question is is this a mockup someone made, or is it truly a company produced item.

[quote comment=”207776″]I’m a Giants fan this may be biased, but I love all three Giants jerseys. It’s old school, yet modern.[/quote]

I’m gonna go ahead and agree with you… and I’m a Packers fan.

Drogba’s got the link on too but they match his digs a bit better.

Not a big fan of Pat Patriot myself. I guess I like my football logos to be simple and easily identifiable when you’re in the stands. Pat looked like something out of a 19th Century woodcut. It looks strange on a football helmet. The Flying Elvis looks a little too sleek, but it does fit the contour of the helmet well and looks less out of place compared with other NFL logos.

But that’s just me.

[quote comment=”207534″]I don’t care what Joe Skiba says this still looks like an armband tribute to me and once again Aaron Ross was wearing one as well as Corey link[/quote]
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both had shoulder problems…. believe it

I was at the Bobcats-Grizzlies game and my buddies and I talked about the unis. The main suggestion we had to improve the look was to make the checker pattern only on the jersey side panel or only on the shorts side panel. Putting them on both was a bit much. The Bobcats’ jerseys were different from their “regular” blue alternates in that they say “Charlotte” on the front, instead of “Bobcats”, and it’s in a different font. link is from the home opener. Now, check out the Cats’ uniforms from the game on Saturday. I think this is a sneak peek at next year’s road uniforms, since the Bobcats are phasing out the orange look and are planning on going to link. Also, because the Cats’ unis were blue alternates, the Grizzlies wore their whites, which say “Grizzlies” on the front. That means the home team wore their city name on their chests, and the road team wore their nickname. Odd.

[quote comment=”207694″]New link? Not sure how credible this is though.[/quote]

Ives Galarcep is one of the top soccer writers in the country. Hes also on ESPN. If you like soccer, bookmark that site. Updated numerous times a day

I know I’m probably the ONLY one anywhere, but I still love link Probably because I grew up with that, but I just love it. Hell, I wish I could find an authentic one of these.

And I don’t see how you can’t like the side piping on the Pats jersey. It’s much less tacky than the weird lettering/numbering and silver/blue triangular stripe, and it really makes the jersey come together. It’d be boring without it. To each his own, I guess.

[quote comment=”207797″]Drogba’s got the link on too but they match his digs a bit better.[/quote]

I’ve behaved todayrather well, but this opportunity has presented itself, so let me get it out of my system:

“These are the most orange soccer cleats That I have ever seen. I link not”!

Had a quick scan of the comments so far and didn’t see mention of this, but Eli Manning, a Reebok sponsored player like his brother, was wearing a Nike glove on his left (non-throwing) hand during the NFC Championship game, it was one of the older style Magngrip Threats from before the new licencing agreement that lets Nike put their logo back on their gloves in the NFL, but it’s a very distinctive Nike Glove. I’d have thought if Reebok went to the trouble of making up special Reebok fingerless gloves, with Oreo logos replacing the NFL equipment logos, for that stupid Oreo licking commercial Eli and Peyton are in, then making sure one of their big name guys wore a Reebok glove for a nationally televised game would be pretty undemanding. Then again maybe it’s only me that noticed?

[quote comment=”207849″]Had a quick scan of the comments so far and didn’t see mention of this, but Eli Manning, a Reebok sponsored player like his brother, was wearing a Nike glove on his left (non-throwing) hand during the NFC Championship game, it was one of the older style Magngrip Threats from before the new licencing agreement that lets Nike put their logo back on their gloves in the NFL, but it’s a very distinctive Nike Glove. I’d have thought if Reebok went to the trouble of making up special Reebok fingerless gloves, with Oreo logos replacing the NFL equipment logos, for that stupid Oreo licking commercial Eli and Peyton are in, then making sure one of their big name guys wore a Reebok glove for a nationally televised game would be pretty undemanding. Then again maybe it’s only me that noticed?[/quote]

I was always under the impression that although the gloves are CLEARLY> Nike Magnigrip Threats that because of the liscensing agreement with the NFL, Reebok would just manufacture their own VERY close versions of that glove. Naive as it may sound I thought it more plausible than Nike just removing their logo. It may sound backwards but think of Nike and their creeping tendenceies!

Here check out link who has been wearing this style of glove since his days in Ann Arbor.

Browns: link

Michigan: link

[quote comment=”207857″]i dont know if anyone else got this youtube in their inbox last week, but i just got it today.

now, the main character is a less than desirable figure in world history, but please, simply take this for what it is… content to make you laugh.

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There are some extremely clever people out in the world with ALOT of spare time on their hands. That bit reminds me of one of my alltime favorite TV shows: link!

[quote comment=”207859″][quote comment=”207849″]Had a quick scan of the comments so far and didn’t see mention of this, but Eli Manning, a Reebok sponsored player like his brother, was wearing a Nike glove on his left (non-throwing) hand during the NFC Championship game, it was one of the older style Magngrip Threats from before the new licencing agreement that lets Nike put their logo back on their gloves in the NFL, but it’s a very distinctive Nike Glove. I’d have thought if Reebok went to the trouble of making up special Reebok fingerless gloves, with Oreo logos replacing the NFL equipment logos, for that stupid Oreo licking commercial Eli and Peyton are in, then making sure one of their big name guys wore a Reebok glove for a nationally televised game would be pretty undemanding. Then again maybe it’s only me that noticed?[/quote]

I was always under the impression that although the gloves are CLEARLY> Nike Magnigrip Threats that because of the liscensing agreement with the NFL, Reebok would just manufacture their own VERY close versions of that glove. Naive as it may sound I thought it more plausible than Nike just removing their logo. It may sound backwards but think of Nike and their creeping tendenceies!

Here check out link

link who has been wearing this style of glove since his days in Ann Arbor.

Browns: link

Michigan: link

I think Nike still do the manufacturing of non-branded Nike style gloves. I buy in all the equipment for my football team and the NFL Equipment logo is noticeably different on an official Reebok glove (flocked material sheild with hard rubber raised logo) and on Nike style (solid soft rubber logo and shield) also the Reebok gloves are actually manufactured by Saranac and thier logo is on the inner label, but there’s no such logo on the Nike style ones.

I’ve seen this exact style up close in both NFL spec’ and NCAA grey glove style complete with swoosh. It’s the same glove I’m sure of it.

Of course in Eli’s case I doubt much thought went into it. He asked for a glove and Joe Skiba handed him one in his size, if he regularly wore gloves I’d bet Reebok would insist he wear theirs.

[quote comment=”207499″]Anybody notice the QB’s in each game yesterday had a green dot on the back of their helmet?

|sarcasm|[/quote]

I don’t know why people still bring this up. I guess just to get an argument going. Whatever.

[quote comment=”207841″]But seriously, today I along with my wife and two young daughters visited friends in Manhattan. Befroe we left, we took the girls to the link store. We UniWatchers and our attention to detail pale in comparison to these little girls and what they know about these toys. I was dragged through three floors of this place for just under an hour nodding, paying attention to every Daddy, Daddy, look at this one.
My wife put in great perspective when we were walking out when she said to me, “Now you know how we feel, when you go on your rants about jerseys, cleats, and patches of paint flying off of football helmets!”

And because I was a “good boy”, I was granted permission to make the short hajj to the NBA Store, Niketown, and Kenneth Cole!

All in all, a great day![/quote]

So, did you make your daughter pick up one of link for her doll? You’re worlds can collide.

It had never occurred to me that a team might have different outfitters for their home and road unis. Why would that be the case?

I’m not sure, but there’s some consistency issues with this ad. I think the home Twins jersey had the # on the front as well, no? What most stuck out was the Giants mix ‘n match. This piping and stripes were used from ’77 to ’82 (i believe) but with a cursive script. The script shown was used from ’58 to ’72 (then in ’73-’76 the reverse was used-orange characters with black outline). It looks like maybe this could have come from a concept design. Odd, but interesting, though.

Brett Farve was using a hand warmer packet on his nose.

what color uni’s were link wearing tonight?

when the pirates went to the mix and match look in 1977, they may have been the only team in mlb history to have the japanese firm descente make their unis. descente (sp?) made the black and white “pinstriped” unis, while rawlings made the yellow unis. you can tell the differecne in the lettering, numerals, and trim.

The Conundrum which is George said best by none other than George…uni-related since he was, in fact, as assistant to the traveling secretary of the New York Yankees, once wore Babe Ruth’s uniform during a meeting, smearing strawberries across the chest. By the way I passed the Yankees new home today…it is going to be amazing, but I digress:

link link

hey guys, i’m confused about this: link

any explanation of the sticker on the white stripe?

Call me crazy, but…
Pat Patriot is a work of art, but does he look good on a helmet? I say no, because there are too many details that are washed out from a reasonable distance. I like link. Nice, large decal that screams out “Patriots,” and might even come across as clever (“Oh, it’s the guy’s hat!”). Plus, I’m a bit of a sucker for big helmet numbers on the sides. Alabama? Old school Chargers? Browns throwbacks? Love them all for the same reason.

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Elvis is cool and the Packers are not.

Anyone know what kind of undershirt the teams were wearing under their pads on Sunday?

What was up with the black head covers the Packers were wearing??????? It looks like they were bought at a ski store???????

Check out Milwaukee Journal Sentinel today for great shot of Bradshaw’s helmet damage.

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Best, Kurt Tausche/Atlanta