Even Sleeven

Didn’t Evansville wearing sleaves on their jerseys have some sort of signifigance to the team plane crash in 1977? I thought it was some sort of tribute or something.

does anyone else besides me NOT like the link color scheme? it just doesn’t work, IMHO

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[quote comment=”193142″]does anyone else besides me NOT like the link color scheme? it just doesn’t work, IMHO

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My high school’s colors were blue and green. I think it looks good when blue is the predominate color. Not so much when green is the predominate color. Our graduation robes were green with blue trim. Not a pretty sight.

Pages 6 and 15 of this PDF show LSU in sleeved basketball jerseys in the 1950s during the Bob Pettit era.

Anent T-shirt jerseys …

I remember that the following teams wore them years ago: LIU; LaSalle; North Carolina; Texas A&M; and LSU (when Petit was there). The Baltimore Bullets had them back in the early 1950s, as did the St. Louis Bombers.

The Batavia Bulldogs from suburban Illinois have striped sleeves, and have had them since the 60s. You can see them in this video:
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linkis in Maywood, IL, not Florida

Michael Finley, Dee Brown, Steven Hunter, and Shannon Brown all played basketball there

The Dolphins cleats… As a Steelers fan I know that Joey Porter always wears Reebock shoes for games. My advice would be to look at player pics and look at shoes. I notice that a lot of the league wears nike cleats. Plus these cleats look a lot like what porter wore in Pittsburgh, just highlighted with orange instead of yellow.

My link above about Batavia didn’t work. Here’s a picture of them instead:
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[quote comment=”193158″]That Lions jersey is interesting. I got an offensive lineman jersey from the Bengals in 95- came with an NFL anniv patch and thoes funny lineman sleeves which were nothing more than circles for the arms..it had a snap thing hanging down the middle of the front. Never had seen one of those before- I think I cut it off when I had the jersey signed and then framed. a HUGE frame.[/quote]

Ughhh…it pains me to know you cut a gamer.

Those Evansville jerseys look like they stole the lacrosse team’s uniforms.

proviso east was probably invited to a holiday hoops tourney in florida where the reader saw media coverage of them. giving the impression they were a florida school.

Cleo Lemon wore that style of shoe in 2006. If you look at photos from the 12-31-06 game against the Colts, on the Dolphins website, the 5th picture looks like a match.
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Proviso has worn sleeves for as long as I can remember. The great Quincy IL basketball teams of the late 70’s and early 80’s featuring Michael Payne and the Douglas brothers also wore sleeves. Here are some photos:

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link – Love those socks!!!

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[quote comment=”193161″][quote comment=”193149″]Anent T-shirt jerseys …

I remember that the following teams wore them years ago: LIU; LaSalle; North Carolina; Texas A&M; and LSU (when Petit was there). The Baltimore Bullets had them back in the early 1950s, as did the St. Louis Bombers.[/quote]

I remember New Mexico State wearing them in the 1970 Final Four, can’t find a pic….[/quote]

That’s the first one I thought of (after Evansville). Here’s a pic:

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Ironically, the SI cover featuring the sleeved New Mexico State jerseys also shows Dan Issel of Kentucky who is a Batavia grad and one of the first of the sleeved era there.

Proviso East is definitely in Maywood. I drive by it all the time. Luckily, I was only a freshman and on the JV team the year Ford, Boyce, Finley and Robinson won their title, because I had no desire to play those guys. They actually went back-to-back because they still had Ray Gay (who was just as good, but not just as eligible as the others) and a kid named Terence Horton.

I believe that Westinghouse also wore the sleeved shirts for at least one year when Kiwanne Garris was there, but I can’t find a pic…

[quote comment=”193203″]Proviso East is definitely in Maywood. I drive by it all the time. Luckily, I was only a freshman and on the JV team the year Ford, Boyce, Finley and Robinson won their title, because I had no desire to play those guys. They actually went back-to-back because they still had Ray Gay (who was just as good, but not just as eligible as the others) and a kid named Terence Horton.

I believe that Westinghouse also wore the sleeved shirts for at least one year when Kiwanne Garris was there, but I can’t find a pic…[/quote]

proviso’s repeat photo
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and from the way back machine…
1974
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1969
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link Alert!

[quote comment=”193142″]does anyone else besides me NOT like the link color scheme? it just doesn’t work, IMHO

i’d like it if the green and the blue were flipped; i have to admit, i thought the Mavs’ late 80s to early aughts look (road blues with a tiny bit of green trim, the old school basketball with a cowboy hat logo) were minor masterpieces. maybe I just had a fondess for the J Jackson/Mashburn/Kidd trio that blinded me to aesthetic reality. Shame on you Toni Braxton for taking that trio away from America.

The Louisana Tech Lady Techsters were known for their linkfrom the begining of women’s basketball until around 2000.

I figured the earliest ones must have had sleeves, if only because cultural standards of modesty were much more conservative back in those days

Not only do they not have sleeves, but they are all skin-tight with an under armour look to them, that says anything but “modesty”.

Also, love the look in link where it appears that each player is wearing one striped sock and one solid sock. It also appears that all the players have rolled their socks down a notch to give them “rim” just below the knee

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it’s not JUST all the logo creep…it’s the color too

ah and batavia used to be sleeveless. but got sleeves when the current head coach came in the early 80’s.

[quote comment=”193190″][quote comment=”193161″][quote comment=”193149″]Anent T-shirt jerseys …

I remember that the following teams wore them years ago: LIU; LaSalle; North Carolina; Texas A&M; and LSU (when Petit was there). The Baltimore Bullets had them back in the early 1950s, as did the St. Louis Bombers.[/quote]

I remember New Mexico State wearing them in the 1970 Final Four, can’t find a pic….[/quote]

That’s the first one I thought of (after Evansville). Here’s a pic:

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Thanks for digging this up! As an aside, it’s funny how SI put Kentucky on that cover assuming they’d beat Jacksonville U. and make the 1970 Final Four. As a former JU student, I’d be sad if it wasn’t for link a couple of weeks later.

i am the one with the dolphins cleats. i too am surprised they are not numbered. i worked as a pirates bat boy for 6 years. cleaning the players cleats was the first job of ours after a game, and we marked every players cleats with a sharpie. we scribbled their numbers on the back.
the dolphins cleats were from the 3-0 steelers win during the monday night slop fest here in pittsburgh. apparently all the dolphins cleats were unwanted and left behind, maybe because they were caked in dirt and mud.
i found several photos on yahoo from that game. ricky williams wore nike that night. joey porter wore reebok, but they were not the same style as the pair i have; very similar though…

[quote comment=”193230″]link Alert![/quote]
Just me, or does the positive space look a little too much like a swastika?

Great Photos of “Proviso E” –
Another former Pirate is Glenn “Doc” Rivers.

The other Proviso school – Proviso West – also wears sleeves instead of tanks.

Ok, kids… here’s an explanation for the linesman in the St. Louis-Detroit game last night. I know Ryan Galloway (the linesman in question) pretty well, and I spoke to his wife via email about it. Here’s what she had to say:

“Ryan had a game [yesterday], Boxing Day, in St. Louis, and left [yesterday]. He never leaves day of game, too stressful trying to catch flights and making sure that his equipment gets there and stuff. Sure enough I got a call at 11:20 [yesterday] morning saying that his flight to St. Louis had been cancelled but that they were trying to get him on a flight to Detroit then to St. Louis but they could not guarantee him that his luggage (equipment & skates), would get there when he did. I got another call at 5:55 saying that his plane was just pulling up to the gate in St. Louis.

As I was writing this Ryan called at 12:45am to give me the update. There is a whole bunch more in between, but this is just from where his plane pulled up. His game was now in an hour and 35 minutes with no luggage or equipment. He catches a cab, they get on the freeway and now there is a big accident. He finally got to the rink at 7:05. He wore a player’s skates, Tim Peel’s ref pants (Tim is about 5’10” tall, Ryan is about 6’2″), a helmet that was way too small and had no visor, shin pads that you could see right thru his way too short pants, a jersey that had no # and two right elbow pads. I would have paid money to have seen the game.”

I feel sorry for the guy. Ryan prides himself on looking like a pro, but it did make me chuckle.

[quote comment=”193306″][quote comment=”193230″]link Alert![/quote]
Just me, or does the positive space look a little too much like a swastika?[/quote]

It does, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. The swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika – “su” meaning “good,” “asti” meaning “to be,” and “ka” as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

The symbol has an interesting history

[quote comment=”193319″]Does anybody know why Ottawa Senators goalie Martin Gerber was wearing an all black mask last night? I’m not a Sens fan, so I haven’t been following that at all, I just noticed it from the highlights. I know this is his 2nd year in Ottawa now, and I know I’ve seen him in a Sens mask before, so I was surprised to see an all black one. Was there a problem with his regular mask or his he getting another one made?[/quote]

He has one made up, but has stuck with the black mask since he’s having such a great season compared to last season. Superstition is tough to break. :o)

[quote comment=”193319″]Does anybody know why Ottawa Senators goalie Martin Gerber was wearing an all black mask last night? I’m not a Sens fan, so I haven’t been following that at all, I just noticed it from the highlights. I know this is his 2nd year in Ottawa now, and I know I’ve seen him in a Sens mask before, so I was surprised to see an all black one. Was there a problem with his regular mask or his he getting another one made?[/quote]

He’s been wearing it all year so far. He does have a mask painted and ready to wear, but he’s been playing good with the black mask so hasn’t changed yet.

[quote comment=”193318″][quote comment=”193306″][quote comment=”193230″]link Alert![/quote]
Just me, or does the positive space look a little too much like a swastika?[/quote]

It does, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. The swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika – “su” meaning “good,” “asti” meaning “to be,” and “ka” as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

The symbol has an interesting history[/quote]
There was a great Uniwatch blog about early 20th century use of the swastika a few months ago. Can’t go back, though.

I know it is a movie and these types of mistakes happen alot, but in Bull Durham Kevin Costner’s flapless catcher helmet has the number 20 on it and his character wears 8. It may be an intentional move since it is a minor league team and they don’t have the resources of major league teams. I also know it is based of writer Ron Shelton’s experience in the minors, so maybe that is where it originated. Anyone else noticed this type of thing in movies?

New Logo Creep Nuance

Has anyone noticed that some running shoes now carry logos pointing out the particular features of the shoe??

I’m looking for pics…

[quote comment=”193359″]New Logo Creep Nuance

Has anyone noticed that some running shoes now carry logos pointing out the particular features of the shoe??

I’m looking for pics…[/quote]
I have plenty on my Asics. Something IGS, SpEVA, soLyte, DuoMax, AHAR, etc. But it’s an Asics shoe with Asics technology, so is it really logo creep?

[quote comment=”193178″]Cleo Lemon wore that style of shoe in 2006. If you look at photos from the 12-31-06 game against the Colts, on the Dolphins website, the 5th picture looks like a match.
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correct me if I’m mistaken, but i swear in that 4th picture the dolphin reciever is wearing BLUE cleats!! wtf??

my shoes have a big “L” and “R” on the back, cus sometimes i get confused

Regarding sleeved basketball jerseys, I believe that Providence College wore them back in the Lenny Wilkins-Ray Flynn era of the late 1950s early 1960s.

I have a game worn St Louis Blues hockey shirt with a Dan Kelly memorial shamrock worn on the left shoulder and the initials DK. It was worn by one of the Sutters, #23.

[quote comment=”193378″][quote comment=”193374″]Now, I may only be 21, but what the hell does PWN3D mean?[/quote]

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Thanks. I never thought to go to urban dictionary.

Lenny Wilkens did indeed wear a sleeved uniform at Providence. link

[quote comment=”193401″][quote comment=”193386″]Regarding sleeved basketball jerseys, I believe that Providence College wore them back in the Lenny Wilkins-Ray Flynn era of the late 1950s early 1960s.

I have a game worn St Louis Blues hockey shirt with a Dan Kelly memorial shamrock worn on the left shoulder and the initials DK. It was worn by one of the Sutters, #23.[/quote]
We all know about the Cleveland Indians Steve Olin/Tim Crews arrow and star patch, right?
The Toronto Blue Jays TC microphone patch
Billy King Holy Toledo Oakland A’s patch
Minnesota Twins Herb patch[/quote]
Sorry for the self-quote, but the Tom Landry hat was bad-ass.
[quote comment=”193415″]how long before nike makes the system of dress frock for jock short-sleeve undergarment and turns it into a full-fledged short-sleeve jersey?

you can easily picture it link[/quote]
That, per se, won’t happen. Somebody, when designing those undershirts, forgot that they have to be solid colored to be worn in NCAA play.

[quote comment=”193418″]That, per se, won’t happen. Somebody, when designing those undershirts, forgot that they have to be solid colored to be worn in NCAA play.[/quote]

mike…i was prolly unclear in my comments…i meant picture the current jersey, plus the undergarment, and fuse it into one short-sleeved shirt

im thinkin’ nike may be ready to introduce a one-piece SOD uni (shortsleeve, not tank) for next season

Ahem….

Maybe we can all pitch in and get Spike one of these.

[quote comment=”193167″][quote comment=”193158″]That Lions jersey is interesting. I got an offensive lineman jersey from the Bengals in 95- came with an NFL anniv patch and thoes funny lineman sleeves which were nothing more than circles for the arms..it had a snap thing hanging down the middle of the front. Never had seen one of those before- I think I cut it off when I had the jersey signed and then framed. a HUGE frame.[/quote]

Ughhh…it pains me to know you cut a gamer.[/quote]

You know, not that I think of it, I think I just folded it underneath. It was #66..some obscure offensive lineman. But the head coach at the time (Dave Shula) and I were friendly, so he signed it for me. Hung for many years next to a Reds Hal Morris #23.

just had a thought – Back to Paul’s original thought about more modest times might have meant sleeves. weren’t the first b’ball unis basically the underwear of the times? just a guess i really don’t know. but if that’s close to the truth does the wife beater pre-date the t-shirt?

Cool thing from the Holiday Bowl: Brent Musberger said of a Texas Wide Receiver that the Receiver did not know whether the white paint in the back of San Diego’s end zone was part of the art or a boundary, causing him to go out of bounds. Has anybody ever heard of play being affected by endzone (or any other) art on the field? The only other instance I can remember is during a Villanova game where all of the players kept slipping on a Big East sticker in the paint.

Next years nike cleats should be on display at the Holiday Bowl, Texas usually wears the new cleats during bowl games being that they are a nike school

[quote comment=”193529″]Cool thing from the Holiday Bowl: Brent Musberger said of a Texas Wide Receiver that the Receiver did not know whether the white paint in the back of San Diego’s end zone was part of the art or a boundary, causing him to go out of bounds.[/quote]

late getting to the game, so i didn’t see the play in question…but are you saying he (brent) said the receiver was confused link which surround the entire playing field, including the end zone? as in…green=in play…white=OB?

let me edit that comment slightly, as the chargers ‘logo’ is painted blue…so green/blue=in play and white=OB

UT fans?

link link & link

link…link

does anyone know what the blue thing is on the back of texas’ helmets, right above the number on the right side. espn showed a good shot at like 12 min left in the 2nd qtr

High schools wearing sleeved unis isn’t all that rare. I saw it a lot when I was working tournaments a few years ago. The Houston paper link today of Madison (Yes, Vince Young’s school) wearing slleved tops.

[quote comment=”193548″]does anyone know what the blue thing is on the back of texas’ helmets, right above the number on the right side. espn showed a good shot at like 12 min left in the 2nd qtr[/quote]

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[quote comment=”193143″][quote comment=”193139″]Didn’t Evansville wearing sleaves on their jerseys have some sort of signifigance to the team plane crash in 1977? I thought it was some sort of tribute or something.[/quote]

link on the sleeves

[quote]”The main reason for the change was player comfort, which was the same reason for Coach (Arad) McCutchan’s choice back in the ’40s.”

For the better part of 50 years, the men’s basketball team at Evansville became known for its trademark T-shirt-style uniforms introduced by McCutchan, a Hall of Fame coach, in 1947.[/quote][/quote]

Purple Aces with red socks? Anyone have pictures?

From article:

“To keep the tradition alive, Boxell said the Aces will wear red socks at all home games this season, another trademark of McCutchan’s teams.”

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Purple Aces with red socks? Anyone have pictures?[/quote]

link is the ONLY photo i’ve been able to find…so far, photo evidence is not supporting the red sox

click on the link from this set of uk practice photos from today at the music city bowl. wesley woodyard’s helmet is full of “pride stickers” of the state of kentucky. uk has consistently used small wildcat paws for their pride stickers.

Dennis Erickson’s sister clearly flashed the shocker after her interview with about 2 minutes left to go in the 3rd quarter.

[quote comment=”193321″][quote comment=”193319″]Does anybody know why Ottawa Senators goalie Martin Gerber was wearing an all black mask last night? I’m not a Sens fan, so I haven’t been following that at all, I just noticed it from the highlights. I know this is his 2nd year in Ottawa now, and I know I’ve seen him in a Sens mask before, so I was surprised to see an all black one. Was there a problem with his regular mask or his he getting another one made?[/quote]

He has one made up, but has stuck with the black mask since he’s having such a great season compared to last season. Superstition is tough to break. :o)[/quote]

Plus, he’s grown attached to his new nickname because of the black mask, “Darth Gerber” :)

[quote comment=”193584″][quote comment=”193581″]Dennis Erickson’s sister clearly flashed the shocker after her interview with about 2 minutes left to go in the 3rd quarter.[/quote]

HOLY SHIT…good catch…it’s the sister “nancy” in the glasses & black sweatjacket…just as they are ending the interview…i rewound the DVR and it’s just after the 2:01 stoppage (2:01 to go in Q3)

i can’t do a SG, but it’s pretty blatant

heh…good eyes case[/quote]

Its an ASU link friends…easily mistaken though.

I noticed the same thing. Both teams visited that ship during the week, but I don’t know what’s up with that player.

[quote comment=”193354″][quote comment=”193322″]Remember our discussion a while back about how the tigers logo on their jersey was different from the one on their hat? Well I just found another team who has the same problem. The White Sox. Look at the Back part of the S link, it goes all the way and touches the top left part of the O. Now look at the part on the link there is a gap there[/quote]

and the Yankees. Not only is it ugly but there are three different NYs. link, link and link[/quote]

The Yankees also use a completely different “NY” on the field link at Yankee Stadium. link it is as a fat head.

[quote comment=”193590″][quote comment=”193584″][quote comment=”193581″]Dennis Erickson’s sister clearly flashed the shocker after her interview with about 2 minutes left to go in the 3rd quarter.[/quote]

HOLY SHIT…good catch…it’s the sister “nancy” in the glasses & black sweatjacket…just as they are ending the interview…i rewound the DVR and it’s just after the 2:01 stoppage (2:01 to go in Q3)

i can’t do a SG, but it’s pretty blatant

heh…good eyes case[/quote]

Its an ASU link friends…easily mistaken though.[/quote]
i saw that during the u of a/asu game too. i was positive it was a shocker. guess not

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i’d totally hit that…and im pretty sure she’s experienced a *cough* pitchfork and loved it

[quote comment=”193610″][quote comment=”193602″][quote comment=”193599″]d. id totally nail both of GHWB’s daughters. but how do you name one jenna and the other barbara? its like when they had them they said, “lets give one a strippers name, and the other a grandma’s name”.[/quote]
Not totally sure, but I believe both are Grandma names. One is obviously W’s mom and the other is Laura’s mom.[/quote]

you may be right, but when it comes down to it, one name sounds totally sexy, and the other name sounds like it gives you savings bonds on christmas.

if i ever have twin daughters, im not naming one destiny and the other ethel.[/quote]

both are smokin’ hawt, but jenna’s got that “c’mere with that pitchfork” look

[quote comment=”193599″]d. id totally nail both of GHWB’s daughters. but how do you name one jenna and the other barbara? its like when they had them they said, “lets give one a strippers name, and the other a grandma’s name”.[/quote]

dude…that’s W’s DAD…that makes link GHWB’s daughter…and W’s sister

still, tho…back in my youth and with a LOT of (insert drug and/or alcholic beverage of choice here), i’d have had a go

What was with the stitching on Colt McCoy’s left shoulder? Lucky jersey? Can anyone get a screen capture? It was that way the entire game.

[quote comment=”193316″] He finally got to the rink at 7:05. He wore a player’s skates, Tim Peel’s ref pants (Tim is about 5’10” tall, Ryan is about 6’2″), a helmet that was way too small and had no visor, shin pads that you could see right thru his way too short pants, a jersey that had no # and two right elbow pads. I would have paid money to have seen the game.[/quote]

Thanks for all that great info! I was only half paying attention to the game, but when I heard something about a linseman losing a jersey, I had to email Paul as quick as I could.

[quote comment=”193578″]click on the link from this set of uk practice photos from today at the music city bowl. wesley woodyard’s helmet is full of “pride stickers” of the state of kentucky. uk has consistently used small wildcat paws for their pride stickers.[/quote]

Most colleges practice in a separate set of equipment than what they use for games. My guess is that the pride stickers in question are awarded for effort and performance during practice while the paws are reserved for gameday.

What I find to be very odd is Rafael Little (#22) is wearing 2 backplates on his shoulder pads, one over the other… I have never seen this before!!

Proviso East Sleeves I was a member of the first Proviso East – Maywood, Illinois – basketball team to wear sleeves – 1958-59. A teammate was Jim Johnson, current defensive guru for the Phildelphia Eagles. The reason: New coach Tom Millikin had worn them in High School (Pinckneyville, Illinois, under the legendary coach Duster Thomas) when they won the State Championship in 1948. Millikin is the only one to win State Championships in Illinois both as a player and as a coach (Proviso East, 1969).