The FNOB phenomenon (for those of you who just got on board, that’s short for “full name on back”) is shaping up as one of our most durable subject areas, as contributions continue to pour in.
If you missed our two previous two examinations of this topic, they can be found here and here. Once you catch up on those, check out the latest additions to the list, which break down like so (with the caveat that I’m only listing examples for which we have photographic evidence):
College Football: John Houlik (note the very unusual cap/small-cap style of his first name); Brian Jackson; Breon Jackson (and in addition to those last two, Louisiana Tech also has a Brannon Jackson, but no photo of him yet); DJ Hall (assuming you consider “DJ” to be a legitimate first name; also, note that the Tennessee player, Henley, appears to have a double-layered nameplate); and Kevin Burrus (whose brother Keith also goes FNOB, but I haven’t found a photo of him yet).
NFL: Darrell Reid (we had already listed teammate Dexter Reid last time around); Randal Williams; Bracy and Brian Walker; Tank Williams; Aaron Brooks (who apparently only wore FNOB during the 2004 preseason); Ricky Williams (I believe also just a preseason thing, from 2001); Rudi Johnson; Jon Ogden (although this seems a bit suspect, since he usually went by Jonathan); and — here’s the pick of the litter — Clarence Weathers.
NHL: Rich Sutter (up until now, all I had for him was this).
Meanwhile, as we continue to compile FNOB examples, here’s something that showed up in yesterday’s comments: John Yarno of the USFL’s Denver Gold, whose NOB featured a first initial after the surname. Teammate/brother George Yarno (No. 66 in the photo) presumably had a similar nameplate, but I haven’t yet found a rear-view photo of that. Anyone..?
Membership News: Remember, for the next two weeks we’re still offering special discounted rates on gift memberships for the holidays. Full details here.
Meanwhile, if you look at the membership roster, you’ll see that many members’ uniform numbers are now shown in boldface type. That’s to distinguish the charter members (i.e., those who joined during the first two months of the membership program). I’ve been meaning to add this designation to the roster page for months now but have been too busy to do it. Fortunately, this is precisely the sort of stupefyingly tedious task important job that special Uni Watch assistant Nina Dubin was hired to do, and she’s working on it now even as we speak. Thanks, Nina.
As for today’s showcase card, it’s patterned after the UMich marching band. I think you’ll all agree that Scott kicked some serious ass on this one.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Another badly Photoshopped baseball card here. “The Sox don’t wear Cool Flo helmets, and even if they did, it wouldn’t be in that shade of blue,” writes Kellan Walski, who contributed this item. “And a blue belt? C’mon!!” ”¦ If it’s really been bugging you that you can’t get the University of Georgia logo on your casket or toilet seat, here’s the news you’ve been waiting for (with thanks to Alan Chewning). ”¦ Bench coach Bryan Redemske notes that N.C. Central has what may be the nation’s coolest side panels. ”¦ Faaaascinating note from Ross DiLiegro, who writes: ” Take a look at the back of Syracuse freshman forward Donte Greene’s jersey. Due to a miscommunication between the Orange’s equipment guy and Nike, Donte’s last name was originally sewn onto the jersey as ‘Green.’ Once the mistake was noticed, the ‘e’ was added to the end of the name, but now it’s noticeably off-center and has been that way for all of Syracuse’s match-ups so far this season. It’ll be interesting to see what happens when the orange road unis and blue alternates roll out, which could be as early as next Wednesday or Friday at MSG for the preseason NIT.” Actually, it looks to me like it was a bit off-center even before the extra letter was added. ”¦ Scott Clay attended Wednesday night’s Auburn/Troy women’s hoops game and noticed something odd: ” Every single one of the Troy players had the same mark on their left arm in the deltoid area.” Looks like a temporary tattoo. Anyone know more about this? ”¦ Fort Scott Community College in Kansas has some seriously plain uniforms. That little smudge above the uni number is a greyhound.
I don’t think that’s a double name plate on the Tennessee football uniform. I think it’s just the seam where the shoulder panel meets the back, and the nameplate is in the shoulder area.
What does everybody think about the unis UConn wore last night? No pic, but they’re certainly, well, interesting.
[quote]Every single one of the Troy players had the same mark on their left arm in the deltoid area.” Looks like a temporary tattoo. Anyone know more about this?[/quote]
not sure if link is that tattoo…possibly?
Scott Clay attended Wednesday night’s Auburn/Troy women’s hoops game and noticed something odd: ” Every single one of the Troy players had the same mark on their left arm in the deltoid area.” Looks like a temporary tattoo. Anyone know more about this? …
Temporary tattoos only work in women’s volleyball. Basketball with them? Come on! Weak!
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Here are the UConn uni’s. With the undershirts it looks like an NFL team going monochromatic – basically looks terrible, despite the cool lines (which don’t match up on the jerseys and shorts, so they’re probably a cool idea but not great in practice).
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Does anyone know what that bar on the back of UNC’s jersey is for? I’m thinking a tribute to the student killed who was Ramsey the Ram? Is this true, or is it one on NIKE’s random oddities. Either way, it’s in an odd place.
[quote comment=”171411″]Does anyone know what that bar on the back of UNC’s jersey is for? I’m thinking a tribute to the student killed who was Ramsey the Ram? Is this true, or is it one on NIKE’s random oddities. Either way, it’s in an odd place.[/quote]
I believe what you are talking about is the black bar they are wearing in memeory of the students who dies during the Virginia Tech shootings. All ACC teams have them somewhere on the unis.
[quote comment=”171411″]Does anyone know what that bar on the back of UNC’s jersey is for? I’m thinking a tribute to the student killed who was Ramsey the Ram? Is this true, or is it one on NIKE’s random oddities. Either way, it’s in an odd place.[/quote]
Va Tech tribute, they chose the neckline
The black strip on UNC’s jersey is for the Virginia Tech shooting. All ACC schools are wearing them this season, apparently in all sports. Each team is wearing them in a different place on their uni.
~E~
Serious props to the Michigan man (or woman) for that sweet membership card. As a former band man myself, I totally respect the idea of getting the uniform as a card. Unfortunately, I still haven’t thought of what I would put on my card, or I may have already joined up myself.
Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.
Gross, I have to wake up today and see that M, especially the day before “The Game”
Paul-you trying to stick it to the OSU fans?
Go Bucks – Beat the team up north
does this mean the ban on NCAA-patterned membership cards is relaxed?
Not exactly related to anything in today’s post, but here’s some Mexican Baseball Cheerleader uniforms – fully sponsored by a link and link.
Talk about your logo creep.
[quote comment=”171425″]does this mean the ban on NCAA-patterned membership cards is relaxed?[/quote]
No, unfortunately. It means we were so excited by the challenge of doing this particular design that we forgot all about the NCAA ban.
[quote comment=”171427″]Not exactly related to anything in today’s post, but here’s some Mexican Baseball Cheerleader uniforms – fully sponsored by a link and link.
Talk about your logo creep.[/quote]
Shameless! Absolutely shameless!
Are there more pics of the cheerleaders somewhere?
I couldn’t find a photo, but WVU’s J. T. Thomas has his FNOB.
My personal preference whether or not to go with the FNOB route would be to have my last name only. I’m glad this subject is under a microscope here because I always noticed the player with FNOB and never liked the look of it. Does anybody know if the player is forced to wear FNOB? or is it personally chosen.. also, Aaron Brooks a victim?..et tu Ricky Williams? well, where are they now..sheesh-I would’ve never believed it if I hadn’t seen the evidence.
[quote comment=”171435″]Does anybody know if the player is forced to wear FNOB? or is it personally chosen..[/quote]
I really doubt there’s a simple answer to this question. I’m sure it depends on the sport, league, team, etc.
[quote comment=”171425″]Fort Scott Community College in Kentucky has some seriously plain uniforms. That little smudge above the uni number is a greyhound.
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very plain but quite interesting and trailblazing for fort scott in the sense that we’ve never seen a mascot logo replace a word mark. the farthest we’ve gotten was when unc, michigan, nc a&t, and miami replace their wordmarks with thier letter logos. i actually like them.
[quote comment=”171411″]Does anyone know what that bar on the back of UNC’s jersey is for? I’m thinking a tribute to the student killed who was Ramsey the Ram? Is this true, or is it one on NIKE’s random oddities. Either way, it’s in an odd place.[/quote]
i would have loved to see a marching ramses, or simply ramses head adorn the carolina uni this year as a tribute to jason ray. it would look simple and appropriate if it was either above or below the va tech band on the back of their jerseys.
[quote comment=”171423″]Gross, I have to wake up today and see that M, especially the day before “The Game”
Paul-you trying to stick it to the OSU fans?
Go Bucks – Beat the team up north[/quote]
so i guess members link and link are going into this weekend with similar attitudes.
for geoff and arthur, there was a great youtube of the cal band who did a tribute to nintendo games. great music and great choreography…
(tetris looked awesome!)
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on a more personal note, the most played college football rivalry lehigh vs. lafayette is tomorrow at 1230… GO LEHIGH!!!
[quote comment=”171422″]Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.[/quote]
I played football in that conference (MIAA). If the big boys wanted to, they could pretty much wipe out a big chunk of the athletic marks that are used.
Here is the MIAA page on the helmet project. I realize that the Princeton/Michigan isn’t trademarked. However, the Pitt State “Pitt” script, Tennessee’s “T” on Truman State, and the aforementioned Wisconsin “W” on Washburn leave a pretty big hole on the originality scale. Also, in the recent past, Missouri Southern used the Georgia/Green Bay style logo with an “S” in place of the “G” and Central Missouri used the “wishbone C”.
[quote comment=”171431″][quote comment=”171425″]does this mean the ban on NCAA-patterned membership cards is relaxed?[/quote]
No, unfortunately. It means we were so excited by the challenge of doing this particular design that we forgot all about the NCAA ban.[/quote]
Just curious, but why is the NCAA ban still in place? When it was implemented, I understood that it was because Uni Watch did not want to open Pandora’s box with regard to card choices available to members.
With the passage of time, however, it seems that nearly any uniform (whether sports, band or otherwise), field or other interesting and noteworthy design may be approved for a membership card, so long as it does not relate to an NCAA team.
With so many different designs already having been approved, and with members frequently attempting to come up with an original and unique idea, whey does the need to ban NCAA designs persist?
Not sure if my eyes were screwing with me last night, but it looked like Oregon’s helmets had an NCAA logo on them, except it said “625”. What?
[quote comment=”171404″]What does everybody think about the unis UConn wore last night? No pic, but they’re certainly, well, interesting.[/quote]
I was not a fan of the line that squared off the top. A little goofy if you ask me.
Those tatoos on the Troy basketball players are of the Australian flag. Not all the players wear them, but the five players we have from Austrailia do.
I’m sorry, but the NC Central side panels look like the uniforms for the elementary school where I teach. Like I don’t know what sport is being played. Not a fan.
[quote comment=”171403″]I don’t think that’s a double name plate on the Tennessee football uniform. I think it’s just the seam where the shoulder panel meets the back, and the nameplate is in the shoulder area.[/quote]
Also, it’s James Hefney, not Henley.
And I’ll also confirm the lack of a double-layered nameplate. UT’s jerseys just have that really visible seam between the body and the shoulders.
Here is the MIAA page on the helmet project. I realize that the Princeton/Michigan isn’t trademarked. However, the Pitt State “Pitt” script, Tennessee’s “T” on Truman State, and the aforementioned Wisconsin “W” on Washburn leave a pretty big hole on the originality scale. Also, in the recent past, Missouri Southern used the Georgia/Green Bay style logo with an “S” in place of the “G” and Central Missouri used the “wishbone C”.[/quote]
What I like even more is that they have a team called the “Mules”. I also dig the stripe or decal or whatever it is on the front of the old Emporia State helmet.
[quote comment=”171403″]I don’t think that’s a double name plate on the Tennessee football uniform. I think it’s just the seam where the shoulder panel meets the back, and the nameplate is in the shoulder area.[/quote]
I agree–Ricky Williams’FNOB jersey looks the same:
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Is it wrong that when I read that Joe Nuxhall died the first thing I thought was “Aww, what a shame. I wonder what their memorial patch will look like next year”?
One of the things that makes me wonder about some of this FNOB stuff is (where not noted) who was the player that forced the FNOB status?
For instance, Aaron Brooks and Clarence Weathers?
Also, why would teams go through all that trouble in the preseason? I guess it’s not that much trouble for an equip mgr, but still.
Lastly, we all know how the NFL is with uni issues but it doesn’t seem to have a single policy on this issue. Didn’t a previous post on this topic show that some teams don’t bother to put initials on at all?
(I always thought the Tank Johnson jersey was totally cool. I wanted one, I love the Titans jerseys anyway, especially that light blue)
[quote comment=”171460″]Is it wrong that when I read that Joe Nuxhall died the first thing I thought was “Aww, what a shame. I wonder what their memorial patch will look like next year”?[/quote]
Yes
I hope the link works since I’ve never posted one before. This is my favorite photoshopped card, the 2005 Topps Luke McCown. They didn’t even bother to fix his Cleveland Browns helmet striping and facemask. It makes his supposed Buccaneers helmet look wayyy off. Not to mention it probably doesn’t snow too much in sunny Tampa (yes, I know the Bucs usually wear their whites at home.)
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[quote comment=”171462″][quote comment=”171460″]Is it wrong that when I read that Joe Nuxhall died the first thing I thought was “Aww, what a shame. I wonder what their memorial patch will look like next year”?[/quote]
Yes[/quote]
It wasn’t the first thing I thought, but I did think it . . . so long lefty
[quote comment=”171446″][quote comment=”171431″][quote comment=”171425″]does this mean the ban on NCAA-patterned membership cards is relaxed?[/quote]
No, unfortunately. It means we were so excited by the challenge of doing this particular design that we forgot all about the NCAA ban.[/quote]
Just curious, but why is the NCAA ban still in place? When it was implemented, I understood that it was because Uni Watch did not want to open Pandora’s box with regard to card choices available to members.
With the passage of time, however, it seems that nearly any uniform (whether sports, band or otherwise), field or other interesting and noteworthy design may be approved for a membership card, so long as it does not relate to an NCAA team.
With so many different designs already having been approved, and with members frequently attempting to come up with an original and unique idea, whey does the need to ban NCAA designs persist?[/quote]
Valid points, all — I agree with you. And about an hour ago I sent a note to Scott laying out pretty much this same line of thought, and suggesting that it’s time to lift the NCAA ban.
If Scott agrees (he’s the one who’ll actually have to execute the designs, so his consent is necessary), we’ll start allowing NCAA designs pronto. Stay tuned.
[quote comment=”171454″][quote comment=”171403″]I don’t think that’s a double name plate on the Tennessee football uniform. I think it’s just the seam where the shoulder panel meets the back, and the nameplate is in the shoulder area.[/quote]
Also, it’s James Hefney, not Henley.[/quote]
It’s actually Jonathan Hefney, not James. Go Vols!
Interesting article link about Cal’s throwbacks, designing uniforms with Nike, the amount of input players have and more.
Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?
[quote comment=”171466″][quote comment=”171454″][quote comment=”171403″]I don’t think that’s a double name plate on the Tennessee football uniform. I think it’s just the seam where the shoulder panel meets the back, and the nameplate is in the shoulder area.[/quote]
Also, it’s James Hefney, not Henley.[/quote]
It’s actually Jonathan Hefney, not James. Go Vols![/quote]
Yeah, that too. Damnit.
If you’re at the game Saturday stop by my tailgate (20th and White), I’ll throw you a beer for catching me on that one.
At last night’s (Thursday) Purdue vs. Bethune-Cookman basketball game, some of the Bethune-Cookman players’ jersey appered to have the spot where the nameplate should be. It was darker than the rest of the jersey. Some players did not have this discoloration. It looked as if the nameplate had been taken off or just been sewn over. I don’t know if the team switched from NOB to NNOB this season. I was not able to take any pictures but was just curious.
[quote comment=”171444″][quote comment=”171422″]Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.[/quote]
I played football in that conference (MIAA). If the big boys wanted to, they could pretty much wipe out a big chunk of the athletic marks that are used.[/quote]
Wisconsin is notoriuos for suing people who use the “Motion W”. I think they even sued an elementary school for using it.
[quote comment=”171408″]Here are the UConn uni’s. With the undershirts it looks like an NFL team going monochromatic – basically looks terrible, despite the cool lines (which don’t match up on the jerseys and shorts, so they’re probably a cool idea but not great in practice).
link
Has the link ever been discussed? Is there a specific reason why some link do it? And why we don’t see it link? I personally don’t like it and the UConn photo proves why.
My first impression of the Michigan membership card…I thought it was suppose to reflect the football team throwing in the towel.
Not a slam on Michigan, that was just the first thing I thought of…especially with the verbal beating that Lloyd Carr is getting.
[quote comment=”171470″]Interesting article link about Cal’s throwbacks, designing uniforms with Nike, the amount of input players have and more.[/quote]
That’s a great article and a great discussion of the decision process! You can tell they put alot of effort into it– the Unis looked great!
[quote comment=”171463″]I hope the link works since I’ve never posted one before. This is my favorite photoshopped card, the 2005 Topps Luke McCown. They didn’t even bother to fix his Cleveland Browns helmet striping and facemask. It makes his supposed Buccaneers helmet look wayyy off. Not to mention it probably doesn’t snow too much in sunny Tampa (yes, I know the Bucs usually wear their whites at home.)
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i also like how they didn’t fix the socks either.
todd– i went to a Notre Dame game a few years ago, where their band did something similar. they played pinball wizard and a mario medley, with the formations and sitting next to the student section, it was incredible. (yes i was a bando)
And why we don’t see it beyond the college level?
The NBA bans it, don’t they? Remember the hissy fit over LeBron’s tights?
[quote comment=”171465″][quote comment=”171446″][quote comment=”171431″][quote comment=”171425″]does this mean the ban on NCAA-patterned membership cards is relaxed?[/quote]
No, unfortunately. It means we were so excited by the challenge of doing this particular design that we forgot all about the NCAA ban.[/quote]
Just curious, but why is the NCAA ban still in place? When it was implemented, I understood that it was because Uni Watch did not want to open Pandora’s box with regard to card choices available to members.
With the passage of time, however, it seems that nearly any uniform (whether sports, band or otherwise), field or other interesting and noteworthy design may be approved for a membership card, so long as it does not relate to an NCAA team.
With so many different designs already having been approved, and with members frequently attempting to come up with an original and unique idea, whey does the need to ban NCAA designs persist?[/quote]
Valid points, all — I agree with you. And about an hour ago I sent a note to Scott laying out pretty much this same line of thought, and suggesting that it’s time to lift the NCAA ban.
If Scott agrees (he’s the one who’ll actually have to execute the designs, so his consent is necessary), we’ll start allowing NCAA designs pronto. Stay tuned.[/quote]
Now about that purple…
Another first-initial-after-NOB:
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That’s an older jersey, but it’s still on the jersey that way (at least it was when they played Man United a few weeks back).
[quote comment=”171477″][quote comment=”171444″][quote comment=”171422″]Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.[/quote]
I played football in that conference (MIAA). If the big boys wanted to, they could pretty much wipe out a big chunk of the athletic marks that are used.[/quote]
Wisconsin is notoriuos for suing people who use the “Motion W”. I think they even sued an elementary school for using it.[/quote]
I am from Wisconsin and do get a little sick and tired of always hearing about UW suing people. Why can’t Wisconsin let it go? But after reading an article today about a girl who broke her leg in CC and STILL finished the race… unfortunately University of Wisconsin better be ready to get a law suit on that school. Come on Berkshire H.S… that is totally blatant!
[quote comment=”171486″][quote comment=”171477″][quote comment=”171444″][quote comment=”171422″]Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.[/quote]
I played football in that conference (MIAA). If the big boys wanted to, they could pretty much wipe out a big chunk of the athletic marks that are used.[/quote]
Wisconsin is notoriuos for suing people who use the “Motion W”. I think they even sued an elementary school for using it.[/quote]
I am from Wisconsin and do get a little sick and tired of always hearing about UW suing people. Why can’t Wisconsin let it go? But after reading an article today about a girl who broke her leg in CC and STILL finished the race… unfortunately University of Wisconsin better be ready to get a law suit on that school. Come on Berkshire H.S… that is totally blatant![/quote]
Totally forgot the link
link (in Ohio)
[quote comment=”171454″][quote comment=”171403″]I don’t think that’s a double name plate on the Tennessee football uniform. I think it’s just the seam where the shoulder panel meets the back, and the nameplate is in the shoulder area.[/quote]
Also, it’s James Hefney, not Henley.[/quote]
Also, it’s Jonathan Hefney, not James.
[quote comment=”171464″][quote comment=”171462″][quote comment=”171460″]Is it wrong that when I read that Joe Nuxhall died the first thing I thought was “Aww, what a shame. I wonder what their memorial patch will look like next year”?[/quote]
Yes[/quote]
It wasn’t the first thing I thought, but I did think it . . . so long lefty[/quote]
Sad news regarding the passing of The Ol’ Lefthander.
One of my favorite memories was lying in bed listening to Marty and Joe call the Reds game.
Joe will certainly be missed in Reds country.
[quote comment=”171478″][quote comment=”171408″]Here are the UConn uni’s. With the undershirts it looks like an NFL team going monochromatic – basically looks terrible, despite the cool lines (which don’t match up on the jerseys and shorts, so they’re probably a cool idea but not great in practice).
link
Has the link ever been discussed? Is there a specific reason why some link do it? And why we don’t see it link? I personally don’t like it and the UConn photo proves why.[/quote]
If I am not mistaken, Patrick Ewing was the first to wear a t-shirt under his uniform when he was at Georgetown. He wore it in practice to stay warm and got comfortable in the t-shirt so he started wearing it in games.
FSCC makes Penn State’s football uniforms look…well, let’s just say fully adorned.
[quote comment=”171419″]Serious props to the Michigan man (or woman) for that sweet membership card. As a former band man myself, I totally respect the idea of getting the uniform as a card. Unfortunately, I still haven’t thought of what I would put on my card, or I may have already joined up myself.[/quote]
THAT IS THE UGLIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE
I noticed on NC Central’s link that several players are listed with two uni numbers. I remember when Houston had all their players in even numbers at home and odd numbers on the road but NCC’s system is different.
… hit the Say It too soon…
NC Central has four double numbered players some have two odd numbers, one has two even ones and another has odd/even. Don’t know what thats all about.
No links but also in college:
Virginia Tech’s D.J. Parker (seeing as D.J, is considered)
the NFL Rams’ Jack Youngblood (Rams) and Robert Smith (FNOB with Vikings, Robt. at O*** S****.)
that’s for the FNOB for those who don’t know what i’m talking about
[quote comment=”171504″][quote comment=”171419″]Serious props to the Michigan man (or woman) for that sweet membership card. As a former band man myself, I totally respect the idea of getting the uniform as a card. Unfortunately, I still haven’t thought of what I would put on my card, or I may have already joined up myself.[/quote]
THAT IS THE UGLIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE[/quote]
You’ve never seen a Yankees game?
[quote comment=”171495″][quote comment=”171478″][quote comment=”171408″]Here are the UConn uni’s. With the undershirts it looks like an NFL team going monochromatic – basically looks terrible, despite the cool lines (which don’t match up on the jerseys and shorts, so they’re probably a cool idea but not great in practice).
link
Has the link ever been discussed? Is there a specific reason why some link do it? And why we don’t see it link? I personally don’t like it and the UConn photo proves why.[/quote]
If I am not mistaken, Patrick Ewing was the first to wear a t-shirt under his uniform when he was at Georgetown. He wore it in practice to stay warm and got comfortable in the t-shirt so he started wearing it in games.[/quote]
I think you’re right with Ewing being the first one. Alot of other guys, including Chris Mullin, starting doing it soon thereafter.
I just realized Youngblood has been talked my fault… link
Does anyone think that Robinson Cano will change back to number 22 now that Roger Clemens “retired”
[quote comment=”171512″][quote comment=”171504″][quote comment=”171419″]Serious props to the Michigan man (or woman) for that sweet membership card. As a former band man myself, I totally respect the idea of getting the uniform as a card. Unfortunately, I still haven’t thought of what I would put on my card, or I may have already joined up myself.[/quote]
THAT IS THE UGLIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE[/quote]
You’ve never seen a Yankees game?[/quote]
hey now..eeeasy does it. don’t hate. lol
Hey all,
Here is a link that has logos for all 616 Michigan high school football teams.
[quote comment=”171422″]Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.[/quote]
My brother used to work at Washburn. The story he told me as that Washburn actually had the W first, but didn’t copyright/trademark it. Then Wisconsin started using it, got the copyright/trademark for themselves, and the rest is history.
Now maybe my brother has no clue what he’s talking about — wouldn’t be the first time…
[quote comment=”171486″][quote comment=”171477″][quote comment=”171444″][quote comment=”171422″]Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.[/quote]
I played football in that conference (MIAA). If the big boys wanted to, they could pretty much wipe out a big chunk of the athletic marks that are used.[/quote]
Wisconsin is notoriuos for suing people who use the “Motion W”. I think they even sued an elementary school for using it.[/quote]
I am from Wisconsin and do get a little sick and tired of always hearing about UW suing people. Why can’t Wisconsin let it go? But after reading an article today about a girl who broke her leg in CC and STILL finished the race… unfortunately University of Wisconsin better be ready to get a law suit on that school. Come on Berkshire H.S… that is totally blatant![/quote]
If they don’t enforce their trademark, they lose it.
Besides, it’s stealing. The University paid a designer to create its marks, and other schools ought to do the same.
And yes, Bershire H.S. ought to get ready. How can the University not take action on that?
Did anyone notice the Umpire in last nights Oregon-Arizona game? He was not properly equipped, he was lacking both an American flag on his left chest (over the pocket) and he was also missing the 8″ placard that should be on his back. There should have been a Black placard with a white “U”. Don’t know if anyone else noticed, but kind of bugged me being an official myself. Doe’s anybody have any info on why? My only quess would be that he has an alternate and the normal Umpire on the crew couldn’t work the game.
[quote comment=”171521″][quote comment=”171422″]Anyone think Wasburn has a lawsuit coming there way? I think a certain college in Wisconsin will have a problem with link.[/quote]
My brother used to work at Washburn. The story he told me as that Washburn actually had the W first, but didn’t copyright/trademark it. Then Wisconsin started using it, got the copyright/trademark for themselves, and the rest is history.
Now maybe my brother has no clue what he’s talking about — wouldn’t be the first time…[/quote]
Barry Alvarez had the motion W designed when he took over the program. Reportedly, the design had a tail when pitched to him, which he had them remove.
Wisconsin started using the motion W in 1991. According to the Helmet Project, Washburn put their version on helmets five years later.
So I think this might be one of those times where your brother is wrong.
Fort Scott’s in Kansas.
[quote comment=”171456″]
What I like even more is that they have a team called the “Mules”. I also dig the stripe or decal or whatever it is on the front of the old Emporia State helmet.[/quote]
The Emporia State Decal was a “stinger” looking decal that started across the top of the face mask in the front and tapered to a point near the back of the helmet. It was pretty cool and, as far as I know, original. It really is too bad they abandoned it for the E’s.
Here’s a poor action shot of the helmet.
So how long before someone’s membership card has a FNOB and/or a deliberate misspelling? Or how about a number or nameplate that’s falling off?
[quote comment=”171528″]So how long before someone’s membership card has a FNOB and/or a deliberate misspelling? Or how about a number or nameplate that’s falling off?[/quote]
Or how about all three
link from Nike. Very classical and gets rid of the silly collar that the old one had.
[quote comment=”171482″][quote comment=”171463″]I hope the link works since I’ve never posted one before. This is my favorite photoshopped card, the 2005 Topps Luke McCown. They didn’t even bother to fix his Cleveland Browns helmet striping and facemask. It makes his supposed Buccaneers helmet look wayyy off. Not to mention it probably doesn’t snow too much in sunny Tampa (yes, I know the Bucs usually wear their whites at home.)
link[/quote]
i also like how they didn’t fix the socks either.
todd– i went to a Notre Dame game a few years ago, where their band did something similar. they played pinball wizard and a mario medley, with the formations and sitting next to the student section, it was incredible. (yes i was a bando)[/quote]
We’re doing that show this week. NBCsports.com airs the halftime shows live, and immediately archives them, so check it out.
That said, I really liked Cal’s tetris chart.
As a member of the Michigan Marching Band, I love the card. Looks great.
Not sure if I’d want my membership card to be an MMB uniform, but that sure looks awesome.
[quote comment=”171453″]I’m sorry, but the NC Central side panels look like the uniforms for the elementary school where I teach. Like I don’t know what sport is being played. Not a fan.[/quote]
Amen.
another story on the cal-roth-throwbacks. as my wife and i were settling into our top row end zone strawberry canyon seats 2 hrs prior to the usc game last saturday, our row neighbor, 50 yrs old or so, like us, tapped me on the shoulder. said he was at a cal function the night before and mike white, former coach at cal and elsewhere, told him a secret. he pulled his raincoat back to show me a cal bears munci-roth-1975 era gorgeous blue number 12 jersey. he said white saw him wearing the jersey the night before in remembrance of the late joe roth, and told him, in confidence, they were wearing the entire uni, helmets as well, of that era for the game. awesome how uni’s remain an emotional thing on all of us fans forever.
[quote comment=”171471″]Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?[/quote]
Just paid a visit to their site.
Plusses:
-Lettering/numbering fonts
-Updated logo (R-Phils)
-Alternate navy uni top
–link patch.
Minuses:
-Using the Phillies 1980 powder blue road unis as their road uni. Yeesh.
-Having “Bubble Gum” as one of their colors. Even as a highlight color I don;t get it.
-The blue/light blue star logo as an alternate cap logo. Makes them look like they’re an Astro’s farm club. It works within the “R” on the regular hats.
[quote comment=”171536″][quote comment=”171471″]Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?[/quote]
Just paid a visit to their site.
Plusses:
-Lettering/numbering fonts
-Updated logo (R-Phils)
-Alternate navy uni top
–link patch.
Minuses:
-Using the Phillies 1980 powder blue road unis as their road uni. Yeesh.
-Having “Bubble Gum” as one of their colors. Even as a highlight color I don;t get it.
-The blue/light blue star logo as an alternate cap logo. Makes them look like they’re an Astro’s farm club. It works within the “R” on the regular hats.[/quote]
The powder blues are sweet!
The University of Houston numbering system was prevalent in most of the rural high school basketball teams I covered in Texas (the city teams rarely used this system). IIRC, the home team wore evens and the visitors were the odds. Thus, a referee calling a foul on No. 13 couldn’t be misinterpreted by the scorer’s table.
Players always wore corresponding numbers: 10/11, 12/13, 14/15… Elvin Hayes wore 44 at home and 45 on the road.
It’s much more likely that NC Central has ordered one set of new jerseys that do not correspond with the old numbers on certain jerseys.
[quote comment=”171540″][quote comment=”171536″][quote comment=”171471″]Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?[/quote]
Just paid a visit to their site.
Plusses:
-Lettering/numbering fonts
-Updated logo (R-Phils)
-Alternate navy uni top
–link patch.
Minuses:
-Using the Phillies 1980 powder blue road unis as their road uni. Yeesh.
-Having “Bubble Gum” as one of their colors. Even as a highlight color I don;t get it.
-The blue/light blue star logo as an alternate cap logo. Makes them look like they’re an Astro’s farm club. It works within the “R” on the regular hats.[/quote]
The powder blues are sweet![/quote]
It’s a nice tribute to the Fightin’s one and only WS Championship in a 123 years of service. Just that it just brings up other memories of double-knitted unimaginative uniforms.
[quote comment=”171506″]I noticed on NC Central’s link that several players are listed with two uni numbers. I remember when Houston had all their players in even numbers at home and odd numbers on the road but NCC’s system is different.[/quote]
I know I’ve seen that in preseason before in the NFL, because of different positions requiring certain numbers groups, and at that point in the year that player’s position hadn;t been established yet. Could be the same thing here. Maybe they’re trying them out in multiple positions. But I do realize the NCAA doesn’t enforce the uni numbering as strictly as the NFL of course.
[quote comment=”171536″][quote comment=”171471″]Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?[/quote]
Just paid a visit to their site.
Plusses:
-Lettering/numbering fonts
-Updated logo (R-Phils)
-Alternate navy uni top
–link patch.
Minuses:
-Using the Phillies 1980 powder blue road unis as their road uni. Yeesh.
-Having “Bubble Gum” as one of their colors. Even as a highlight color I don;t get it.
-The blue/light blue star logo as an alternate cap logo. Makes them look like they’re an Astro’s farm club. It works within the “R” on the regular hats.[/quote]
[quote comment=”171536″][quote comment=”171471″]Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?[/quote]
Just paid a visit to their site.
Plusses:
-Lettering/numbering fonts
-Updated logo (R-Phils)
-Alternate navy uni top
–link patch.
Minuses:
-Using the Phillies 1980 powder blue road unis as their road uni. Yeesh.
-Having “Bubble Gum” as one of their colors. Even as a highlight color I don;t get it.
-The blue/light blue star logo as an alternate cap logo. Makes them look like they’re an Astro’s farm club. It works within the “R” on the regular hats.[/quote]
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How can you NOT like the powder blue retro road uniforms? (unless you like dull aka Penn State and then the Yankees uniforms). They are FANTASTIC!! Sport are fun, why can’t uniforms be fun as well.
P.S. I CAN’T wait to see the first Ducks membership card.
I was watching the Spurs/Mavericks game last night and noticed that Manu Ginobli was wearing one sock low and one sock high. However, upon further inspection, it didn’t look like a sock, but rather, it looked like it was raised, like a soccer shinguard or something. Anybody know what this was?
On the undershirts, DJ White of Indiana let the fans vote online whether or not he should wear the undershirt this year.
He is now going sleeveless this year!
[quote comment=”171512″][quote comment=”171504″][quote comment=”171419″]Serious props to the Michigan man (or woman) for that sweet membership card. As a former band man myself, I totally respect the idea of getting the uniform as a card. Unfortunately, I still haven’t thought of what I would put on my card, or I may have already joined up myself.[/quote]
THAT IS THE UGLIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE[/quote]
You’ve never seen a Yankees game?[/quote]
I was at the Badgers / Michigan game last week. Only time the Yanks are in town is interleague play
I believe the Woods’ brothers that played at Oklahoma State all had FNOB. Rashaun, Donovan and D’Juan?
[quote comment=”171523″]Did anyone notice the Umpire in last nights Oregon-Arizona game? He was not properly equipped, he was lacking both an American flag on his left chest (over the pocket) and he was also missing the 8″ placard that should be on his back. There should have been a Black placard with a white “U”. Don’t know if anyone else noticed, but kind of bugged me being an official myself. Doe’s anybody have any info on why? My only quess would be that he has an alternate and the normal Umpire on the crew couldn’t work the game.[/quote]
I mentioned it last night. It might just be a substitute jersey, with the main one being damaged or torn or lost.
[quote comment=”171544″]The University of Houston numbering system was prevalent in most of the rural high school basketball teams I covered in Texas (the city teams rarely used this system). IIRC, the home team wore evens and the visitors were the odds. Thus, a referee calling a foul on No. 13 couldn’t be misinterpreted by the scorer’s table.
Players always wore corresponding numbers: 10/11, 12/13, 14/15… Elvin Hayes wore 44 at home and 45 on the road.
It’s much more likely that NC Central has ordered one set of new jerseys that do not correspond with the old numbers on certain jerseys.[/quote]
that went into the early 80’s during the drexler, olajuwon, michaeux era as well…
[quote comment=”171549″]How can you NOT like the powder blue retro road uniforms? (unless you like dull aka Penn State and then the Yankees uniforms). They are FANTASTIC!! Sport are fun, why can’t uniforms be fun as well.
[/quote]
i dont like powder blue as the basis for any baseball uni. its not versatile like gray and white are. thats how i can NOT like it.
The teams that looked the best in powder blues were the Blue Jays and Royals.
[quote comment=”171465″][quote comment=”171446″][quote comment=”171431″][quote comment=”171425″]does this mean the ban on NCAA-patterned membership cards is relaxed?[/quote]
No, unfortunately. It means we were so excited by the challenge of doing this particular design that we forgot all about the NCAA ban.[/quote]
Just curious, but why is the NCAA ban still in place? When it was implemented, I understood that it was because Uni Watch did not want to open Pandora’s box with regard to card choices available to members.
With the passage of time, however, it seems that nearly any uniform (whether sports, band or otherwise), field or other interesting and noteworthy design may be approved for a membership card, so long as it does not relate to an NCAA team.
With so many different designs already having been approved, and with members frequently attempting to come up with an original and unique idea, whey does the need to ban NCAA designs persist?[/quote]
Valid points, all — I agree with you. And about an hour ago I sent a note to Scott laying out pretty much this same line of thought, and suggesting that it’s time to lift the NCAA ban.
If Scott agrees (he’s the one who’ll actually have to execute the designs, so his consent is necessary), we’ll start allowing NCAA designs pronto. Stay tuned.[/quote]
That’s good news. The NCAA ban and purple ban are the 2 big reasons I’ve never joined. I can live with a purple ban in place since my undergraduate alma mater is red and gray.
[quote]todd– i went to a Notre Dame game a few years ago, where their band did something similar. they played pinball wizard and a mario medley, with the formations and sitting next to the student section, it was incredible. (yes i was a bando)[/quote]
Hey Dan King or Brian from short island, are you a Notre Dame grad? I’m just curious, I noticed a blip about ND and thought I’d see. I’m class of 2007.
And the Notre Dame band has been pretty creative. One of my favorites was the giant aircraft base formed, complete with a jet landing and smoke coming from the tail. The Mario was great, too.
Hey, I didn’t get my charter member designation!
The deadline was 7/31/07 — my 30th birthday and the basis of my number. Note the post from 7/30: link
Maybe I sent the email after 11 PM Central…?
[quote comment=”171562″]Hey, I didn’t get my charter member designation!
The deadline was 7/31/07 — my 30th birthday and the basis of my number. Note the post from 7/30: link
Maybe I sent the email after 11 PM Central…?[/quote]
Nina hasn’t finished doing all the coding yet. It’s a slow, boring job — still a work in progress. Don’t worry, you made it under the wire, and the roster will reflect that shortly.
[quote comment=”171549″]“Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?”[/quote]
Sweet Jebus, talk about a major downgrade! This is one that Plan B missed, and that’s rare. I would have kept the railroad theme intact. Bubblegum? What were they smoking? Or drinking? Or did they eat Aaron Sorkin’s mushrooms? They also should have stayed with the current “hand-me-down” package.
[quote comment=”171471″]Did the Reading Phillies makeover get discussed here?[/quote]
dammmit…i never hated ZZ before
/best part about the uni is the “R Phils” alt & bp tops (were i still married, i know my wife would have bought that one for me)
//powder blue NEVER looked good for an away uni…NEVER…especially when the phils wore it, with that goddawful maroon
In this weeks’ SI, there is a pic of Tank Johnson sacking Eli Manning. One of the offensive linemen is wearing the Ion Helmet. I thought this was supposed to be a preseason thing?
(PS- Tank is wearing 66 in Dallas. Poosibly a metaphor for turning his line around?)
[quote comment=”171529″][quote comment=”171528″]So how long before someone’s membership card has a FNOB and/or a deliberate misspelling? Or how about a number or nameplate that’s falling off?[/quote]
Or how about all three[/quote]
Mental note made for renewal time… Thanks!
Hey Thank you very much: from yesterday’s comments: when I visit this site on my home computer the November 6, 2007 page comes up, and even if I search today’s date it still brings me to Nov.06.07. Anybody have any idea why that would happen??
did you hit refresh?
Yes I did..Last night I did a “test” comment to see if it would load to the most recent uni watch page, see for yourself the date on the last comment of 11.06.07 page. last comment. I posted a “test” comment and it is showing 11.14.07 date in which I posted the comment..I don’t know why it is not bringing me the most up to date page of Uni Watch. It only happens to this site too, everything else works fine..Maybe I’m mistakenly blocked from uni watch?
did you email paul ( uniwatch@earthlink.n… )? maybe yer IP is blocked (although then you shouldn’t be able to access the site at all)…
perhaps it’s time for a new mac
I shifted back to M.default.
Keith Burrus does not go full name for the Indiana Hoosiers as seen in this picture.
link
But his brother, Kevin as seen below does.
link
[quote comment=”171617″]Hey Thank you very much: from yesterday’s comments: when I visit this site on my home computer the November 6, 2007 page comes up, and even if I search today’s date it still brings me to Nov.06.07. Anybody have any idea why that would happen??
did you hit refresh?
Yes I did..Last night I did a “test” comment to see if it would load to the most recent uni watch page, see for yourself the date on the last comment of 11.06.07 page. last comment. I posted a “test” comment and it is showing 11.14.07 date in which I posted the comment..I don’t know why it is not bringing me the most up to date page of Uni Watch. It only happens to this site too, everything else works fine..Maybe I’m mistakenly blocked from uni watch?
did you email paul ( uniwatch@earthlink.n… )? maybe yer IP is blocked (although then you shouldn’t be able to access the site at all)…
perhaps it’s time for a new mac
I shifted back to M.default.[/quote]
Damn custom settings..!
[quote comment=”171561″][quote]todd– i went to a Notre Dame game a few years ago, where their band did something similar. they played pinball wizard and a mario medley, with the formations and sitting next to the student section, it was incredible. (yes i was a bando)[/quote]
Hey Dan King or Brian from short island, are you a Notre Dame grad? I’m just curious, I noticed a blip about ND and thought I’d see. I’m class of 2007.
And the Notre Dame band has been pretty creative. One of my favorites was the giant aircraft base formed, complete with a jet landing and smoke coming from the tail. The Mario was great, too.[/quote]
I’m a current student (and bando) actually. We’ve done some fun shows. Our coolest this year IMO was the “music in motion” show, where we did the treadmill song by OK GO, made a treadmill formation, spun the belts and had the leprechaun up on a treadmill running. But yes, unlike OSU we’re a crowd pleaser band, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. People can actually have fun at our games this year!
[quote comment=”171408″]Here are the UConn uni’s. With the undershirts it looks like an NFL team going monochromatic – basically looks terrible, despite the cool lines (which don’t match up on the jerseys and shorts, so they’re probably a cool idea but not great in practice).
link
Yes, I was getting tired of UConn’s look the of the past few years but these new uni’s remind me more of something a woman’s team would wear or a European team. Should have stuck to either their previous look or have gone with their throwbacks.
Here’s a late night note on logo creep. According to a recent link, Virginia Tech linebacker Vince Hall had this to say after getting his cast off:
ON ONE COOL BI-PRODUCT OF THE INJURY, THAT HIS LEFT FOREARM NOW APPEARS TO HAVE FOOTBALL SEAMS DOWN THE MIDDLE: “I can finally say I look like what I live. I might get the outline of a football tattooed right here. Get pigskin written across. The NIKE swoosh, like it’s really a VT football.”
Vince Hall was doing some goofing around in that interview, but still…
[quote comment=”171561″][quote]todd– i went to a Notre Dame game a few years ago, where their band did something similar. they played pinball wizard and a mario medley, with the formations and sitting next to the student section, it was incredible. (yes i was a bando)[/quote]
Hey Dan King or Brian from short island, are you a Notre Dame grad? I’m just curious, I noticed a blip about ND and thought I’d see. I’m class of 2007.
And the Notre Dame band has been pretty creative. One of my favorites was the giant aircraft base formed, complete with a jet landing and smoke coming from the tail. The Mario was great, too.[/quote]
no, i go to Case Western(better for engineering) but have been a lifelong ND fan. guess that happens when your dad goes to the rudy game
Hi Guys.
Just a quick point about that Clarence Weathers jersey. I may be completely wrong, but having seen a few videos from the late 80s, I thought all the browns players had their first name above their surname on their jerseys.
As I say… I may be completely wrong, but I’ll look into it.
The front of the new Italy aways…
link
Saw yesterday these were called hideous, I think they look amazing especially when you consider the bib of the 06 version..
link
all those topps baseball cards are HORRIBLY photoshopped. it’s always the players who were free agents about to play their first game with their new team. it seems like most of the pictures are photoshopped at an a’s game (visiting jersey, oakland a’s home dugout), but they’re photoshopped with the players in the “home” jerseys. example: a picture of frank thomas as an athletic in front of the a’s dugout… photoshopped in a blue jays home jersey… on a GRASS turf with ANOTHER TEAM’S dugout in the back
…what’s the point?