Many of you have made it abundantly clear in recent months that you don’t like to mix sports with politics. To which I can only say, be glad you don’t live in Venezuela, where baseball uniforms and politics have recently intersected in a particularly absurd manner. Reader Pablo Souki, a Venezuelan native who now lives in the States, explains:
Venezuela has been deeply split along political lines since 1998, when Hugo Chávez was first elected President. Everything in Venezuela is seen through politics, and it has split the country into “Chavistas” (Chávez supporters) and the opposition. There is no middle ground — people either love Chávez or they hate him. … [I]f I had to come up with an analogy, I’d say every politician in Venezuela behaves like Ann Coulter or Al Franken. And non-politicians do, too.
In the middle of this madness, Chávez and his party have decided they own the color red. Everything having to do with the Government is referred to as “red.” [For example], the most recent presidential elections in Venezuela were in early December of 2006. Chávez’s campaign color was, of course, red. This was December, so Caracas was full of Christmas decorations. That means in some anti-Chávez areas, Santa was dressed in blue, and red decorations were avoided altogether. That’s how badly some people react to red things now in Caracas.
So along comes the 07-08 baseball season, and the Caracas Lions roll out their new BP jerseys, and they are red. Brick red, actually, a lot like the Astros’ alternates, as Lions President Ariel Prat pointed out. Still, people are really upset, and the blogosphere is raging. Conspiracy theorists claim this is proof that the club’s owner is pro-Chávez. In truth, everyone in the country already knew that, so I don’t know what the fuss is about. But there are crazies threatening to quit following the team. For real. All of this over BP jerseys.
(Of course, a better reason to protest the Lions’ uniforms is that they have ads instead of nameplates (as do many Central and South American teams). For a refreshing corrective, click through the gallery of Lions uni history available here.)
About a week after I got Pablo’s note, I got a communiqué from Al Cummings, who told a similar tale:
In August I went to a friend’s wedding in Nicaragua and was bumping around in my Phillies (2007 Eastern Division Champs) cap. I got a lot of waves and nods of approval, and I thought it was because Nicaragua native Vicente Padilla had played for the Phils. My friend explained a red cap signifies my solidarity with the Sandanistas, still a major issue in that polarized country.
Hmmm, think they put that in the travel guides? Big thanks to Pablo and Al for their eye-opening tales.
Hall Monitor: One item from the weekend that I missed in yesterday’s post was all the activity surrounding the Hockey Hall of Fame inductions in Toronto. For starters, the Rangers and Maple Leafs wore Hall of Fame jersey patches for their game on Saturday night — the Leafs wearing it on on the chest, the Rangers on the shoulder yoke. Then on Sunday there was the Legends Classic Game, featuring assorted geezers divided up into Original 6 and Expansion teams. Things apparently got a bit surreal when Glenn Anderson played with sparklers on his skates (and can’t you just see some Fox executive saying to himself, “Damn, why didn’t we think of that when we had the NHL contract?!”).
As for the actual inductees, their blazers are a lot nicer than the ones their NFL counterparts are forced to wear.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Great shots here and here of Greg Wesley’s helmet decal being left in tatters after a big hit (with big thanks to Jason Gomez). ”¦ Terry Mark reports that Indiana will wear throwbacks this Saturday to mark the 40th anniversary of the 1967 team, which played in the ’68 Rose Bowl. ”¦ Unique find by Joe Hilseberg, who discovered a photo of an old Jim Turner Broncos jersey with the first initial added onto the existing nameplate. “Never seen anything like that before,” says Joe, who’s seen many a nameplate in his day. ”¦ I’m told that that the Kings’ patch in this photo is a tribute to SoCal firefighters, although I haven’t been able to find a closer view of the design. Anyone..? … Mark Mihalik notes that LaDainian Tomlinson’s cleats had powder blue trim on Sunday, to match the Chargers’ alternate jerseys. … Over on the Chris Creamer board, someone came up with an old photo of Marcus Allen playing in a Pro Bowl with a black facemask on his Raiders helmet
Helmet decals are a lot easier to get torn up than people think
Note to self: Wear no colors aside from gray and white on trips to Central and South America. And certain urban areas in the U.S.
This is what the Indiana throwbacks will look like.
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Is it just me, or does link look like the new MLB cool base BP jerseys, but with a full button down front? Why can’t we have that here? If we have to go with the pit stain look, can’t we at least have them look like actual jerseys and not something 5 year olds wear in Tee Ball leagues with the 2 button pullover?
In August I went to a friend’s wedding in Nicaragua and was bumping around in my Phillies (2007 Eastern Division Champs) cap. I got a lot of waves and nods of approval, and I thought it was because Nicaragua native Vicente Padilla had played for the Phils. My friend explained a red cap signifies my solidarity with the Sandanistas, still a major issue in that polarized country.
Phillies 2007 Eastern Division Champs cap in August? Kind of presumptuous, wouldn’t you say?
[quote comment=”170045″]This is what the Indiana throwbacks will look like.
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How is that significant – isn’t that what they wear now?
The patch that the Kings are wearing is the same as the helmet sticker that SD State wore.
[quote comment=”170050″]In August I went to a friend’s wedding in Nicaragua and was bumping around in my Phillies (2007 Eastern Division Champs) cap. I got a lot of waves and nods of approval, and I thought it was because Nicaragua native Vicente Padilla had played for the Phils. My friend explained a red cap signifies my solidarity with the Sandanistas, still a major issue in that polarized country.
Phillies 2007 Eastern Division Champs cap in August? Kind of presumptuous, wouldn’t you say?[/quote]
Not really… the St. Louis Cardinals jacket I’ve worn for years “magically” became a World Champion Cardinals jacket after October 2006! (Now it’s “just” a Cardinals’ jacket again; and since it features both red and blue, I can continue to confuse even those in South and Central America about my politics!) (evil grin!)
[quote comment=”170050″]In August I went to a friend’s wedding in Nicaragua and was bumping around in my Phillies (2007 Eastern Division Champs) cap. I got a lot of waves and nods of approval, and I thought it was because Nicaragua native Vicente Padilla had played for the Phils. My friend explained a red cap signifies my solidarity with the Sandanistas, still a major issue in that polarized country.
Phillies 2007 Eastern Division Champs cap in August? Kind of presumptuous, wouldn’t you say?[/quote]
I think he meant that it was a Phillies cap, and that they were the 2007 Eastern Division Champs this past year. Not that the hat said “2007 Eastern Divison Champs”.
I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link
Did Marcus Allen have a logo drawn on the tape of his cleats.
[quote comment=”170056″]I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link[/quote]
I’ll try again.
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This was posted yesterday but I wanted to express my desire to see this happen.
Since the 2009 NBA All-Star game will be played in Phoenix and they will be using a link of link, I am hoping and praying that they come back and use a modified version of link link.
If you look at the logo on the thumb of link it seems to be that of link, a Quebec area sports equipment company. As far as I am aware, DR doesn’t have a deal with Reebok and judging by the faded logo there may have been an attempt to cover it up with some red marker. It seems to be similar to the situation of Helton Mizuno-izing his Nike shoes.
Another thing about Jagr is that he doesn’t lace up the first set of eyelets close to the toes on his skates. You can kind of see it in the previous photo. I have tried this technique and continue to use it today. It save a great deal of wear on the laces.
[quote comment=”170051″][quote comment=”170045″]This is what the Indiana throwbacks will look like.
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How is that significant – isn’t that what they wear now?[/quote]
Off the top of my head the helmets are different, they have the interlocking IU rather than just an I, and they wear red pants rather than white.
[quote comment=”170058″][quote comment=”170056″]I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link[/quote]
I’ll try again.
link[/quote]
Hmm…. they look about the same to me, considering that the 1960 picture looks a touch washed out. Doing a quick google search on “Collegiate blue” showed me colors that were both lighter and darker than the current powder blue uniforms.
Pretty sure that Mike Nolan was wearing last year’s Telex/Motorola headset last night instead of the current model. Anyone have a screenshot? If I had to guess a reason, I’d say the 12th man. A friend who works for Telex tells me that this years’ headsets are acoustically horrible, but that Motorola sees them primarily as advertising rather than a functional product. Maybe he pulled out last year’s set so he could hear better?
[quote comment=”170063″]A friend who works for Telex tells me that this years’ headsets are acoustically horrible, but that Motorola sees them primarily as advertising rather than a functional product.[/quote]
What a surprise.
[quote comment=”170062″][quote comment=”170058″][quote comment=”170056″]I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link[/quote]
I’ll try again.
link[/quote]
Hmm…. they look about the same to me, considering that the 1960 picture looks a touch washed out. Doing a quick google search on “Collegiate blue” showed me colors that were both lighter and darker than the current powder blue uniforms.[/quote]
Is it possible that the new jersey is just shinier and that’s what makes it look darker?
If I’m not mistaken, the Hoosiers did wear the white pants at least once at home this year. And don’t the jerseys have “Indiana” or “Hoosiers” on them? Or, maybe I’m getting them confused with Oklahoma
Here are IU’s 2007 unis for reference (Click on Photo Galleries)
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[quote comment=”170060″]If you look at the logo on the thumb of link it seems to be that of link, a Quebec area sports equipment company. As far as I am aware, DR doesn’t have a deal with Reebok and judging by the faded logo there may have been an attempt to cover it up with some red marker. It seems to be similar to the situation of Helton Mizuno-izing his Nike shoes.
Another thing about Jagr is that he doesn’t lace up the first set of eyelets close to the toes on his skates. You can kind of see it in the previous photo. I have tried this technique and continue to use it today. It save a great deal of wear on the laces.[/quote]
The funny thing with Jagr is that as recently as last year, he was using a pair of really tore up old Koho gloves that had the Reebok logo placed on it. Of course, that wouldn’t matter as much, since Koho is owned by RBK now.
Joe Thornton has also done this a bunch in the past, wearing Easton gloves with CCM (for whom he’s one of the main endorsers) logos.
I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…!
Could the logo on the Kings’ jersey simply be the California State Firefighters’ Association’s logo? As seen in the upper left corner on their site here: link
Heh…one of my fake sports teams is named the “Red Menace”.
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(No, not communist…just had a 3yo with red hair when I named them! Someone else suggested I go that route with the theme.)
[quote comment=”170061″][quote comment=”170051″][quote comment=”170045″]This is what the Indiana throwbacks will look like.
link
How is that significant – isn’t that what they wear now?[/quote]
Off the top of my head the helmets are different, they have the interlocking IU rather than just an I, and they wear red pants rather than white.[/quote]
The current helmets are also link.
[quote comment=”170056″]I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link[/quote]
link
Looks LIGHTER than the 1960, the same as the 68-73
Not sure why they would leave out 1974-1978 on their timeline though.
[quote comment=”170064″][quote comment=”170063″]A friend who works for Telex tells me that this years’ headsets are acoustically horrible, but that Motorola sees them primarily as advertising rather than a functional product.[/quote]
What a surprise.[/quote]
More surprise: I recall somebody mentioning on this blog that Motorola attaches a much-larger-than-necessary microphone to the headsets so that the word MOTOROLA can be displayed four times (not just two) and in a larger font.
[quote comment=”170050″]In August I went to a friend’s wedding in Nicaragua and was bumping around in my Phillies (2007 Eastern Division Champs) cap. I got a lot of waves and nods of approval, and I thought it was because Nicaragua native Vicente Padilla had played for the Phils. My friend explained a red cap signifies my solidarity with the Sandanistas, still a major issue in that polarized country.
Phillies 2007 Eastern Division Champs cap in August? Kind of presumptuous, wouldn’t you say?[/quote]
“bumping”?
[quote comment=”170076″][quote comment=”170056″]I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link[/quote]
link
Looks LIGHTER than the 1960, the same as the 68-73
Not sure why they would leave out 1974-1978 on their timeline though.[/quote]
I took a virtual swatch from the 1960 jersey and a virtual swatch from the “09-21-03” jersey and the 1960 swatch is a bit darker. BUT … that’s not the real jersey. And, maybe the 1960 version in my example is lighter because of camera technology, lighting, age of photo, etc. I’d still like the current ones to be a shade lighter. :)
Cricket is testing out pink balls…..
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[quote comment=”170076″][quote comment=”170056″]I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link[/quote]
link
Looks LIGHTER than the 1960, the same as the 68-73
Not sure why they would leave out 1974-1978 on their timeline though.[/quote]
After looking at that history, it sure seems like the Chargers have jerked around with their color blue quite a bit. None of the powder blues seem quite the same. It makes me feel better about the current variation.
Catching up on last night’s comments…
[quote comment=”169818″]More from the Topps front… the link card is a disgrace — he’s clearly at Shea Stadium in a home Rockies jersey.[/quote]
Not only that, they didn’t bother to give him the right uni number. He wore 16 with the Rockies last year and 7 this year, but the photo has him with either 2 or 20-something, probably his Mets number, whatever it was.
[quote comment=”170063″]Pretty sure that Mike Nolan was wearing last year’s Telex/Motorola headset last night instead of the current model. Anyone have a screenshot? If I had to guess a reason, I’d say the 12th man. A friend who works for Telex tells me that this years’ headsets are acoustically horrible, but that Motorola sees them primarily as advertising rather than a functional product. Maybe he pulled out last year’s set so he could hear better?[/quote]
Maybe Giuliani got the contract for them?
Sad to see Mike didn’t pull out the suit for last night. I wish he’d tell the NFL to go shove it and wear it all the time now.
[quote comment=”170070″]
The funny thing with Jagr is that as recently as last year, he was using a pair of really tore up old Koho gloves that had the Reebok logo placed on it. Of course, that wouldn’t matter as much, since Koho is owned by RBK now.[/quote]
Jagr has used DR gloves before with the Caps and the Rangers.
[quote comment=”170066″][quote comment=”170062″][quote comment=”170058″][quote comment=”170056″]I too liked the Chargers powder blue jerseys. But, these new ones are not powder blue. They are darker. Here’s a picture from 1960 . And here’s link[/quote]
I’ll try again.
link[/quote]
Hmm…. they look about the same to me, considering that the 1960 picture looks a touch washed out. Doing a quick google search on “Collegiate blue” showed me colors that were both lighter and darker than the current powder blue uniforms.[/quote]
Is it possible that the new jersey is just shinier and that’s what makes it look darker?[/quote]
The newer materials may have something to do with it. When the Eagles wore their ’33 throwbacks in Yellow and Blue, the shiney material made it hard to see the blue numbers on the yellow background. Natural materials that are dyed will look different from the newer hi-tech fabrics, and, some colors may be harder to reproduce accurately.
[quote comment=”170043″]Note to self: Wear no colors aside from gray and white on trips to Central and South America. And certain urban areas in the U.S.[/quote]
Note to self: Don’t take trips to Central and South America….and certain urban areas in the U.S. where a team’s cap color means something other than the team’s color.
Toronto Maple Leafs will be wearing wearing white at home tonight, instead of blue. Apparently, this may be due to superstitions…
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link Not uni-related, but I think every fans dream.
I thought Nolan could only wear the suit for home games?
[quote comment=”170083″]Catching up on last night’s comments…
[quote comment=”169818″]More from the Topps front… the link card is a disgrace — he’s clearly at Shea Stadium in a home Rockies jersey.[/quote]
Not only that, they didn’t bother to give him the right uni number. He wore 16 with the Rockies last year and 7 this year, but the photo has him with either 2 or 20-something, probably his Mets number, whatever it was.[/quote]
It was 25 as seen in Pic, you think if they could wipe out the Mets uni, they could at least try with the number!!
[quote comment=”170092″]I thought Nolan could only wear the suit for home games?[/quote]
Yes, just wishful thinking. If ever there was a time to tell the NFL uni-police to go *uh-uh* themselves last night was it.
In regards to Marcus Allen’s facemask — it was not black. The color of the facemask was more of a charcoal gray so it contrasted with the silver of the Raiders’ helmet. The black and white photo doesn’t show this – it looks black.
Marcus Allen
[quote comment=”170097″]Marcus Allen
Let’s try that again
How is that significant – isn’t that what they wear now?
Indiana has alternated between white and crimson pants at home. They wore white pants against Penn State and I believe against Ball State.
As noted above, the main differences between the 1967 uniforms and today’s are the helmet logo (interlock IU today, block I then), the helmet stripe (two white stripes then, none today) and the facemasks (gray then, crimson today). IU’s current jerseys are fairly conservative (no outrageous fonts), but the 1967 jersey didn’t have “HOOSIERS” across the chest. Also, the shade of crimson worn in 1967 was somewhat lighter than the shade that IU wears now. Based on a helmet logo appearing on the IU website, I’m guessing that IU will be wearing roughly authentic jerseys (with the Adidas logo added, of course), but that the helmet will be the same one that IU wore in the 2005 Bucket game as a memorial to 1967 team member Terry Cole, who died in 2005 (accurate in all respects but the color and the facemask).
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My guess is that they will be wearing the current shade of crimson rather than the lighter shade. But, we will find out this afternoon, apparently.
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[quote comment=”170081″]Cricket is testing out pink balls…..
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Hope that they are not used with this team
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Thanks Jason Gomez for getting my Greg Wesley photos to UniWatch. I took those on Sunday and tried posting them in the comments section about 5 times (3 different computers, 2 different IPs) until I finally just had to give up. I tagged them with “UniWatch” on Flickr in the hopes that someone would find them and get them in Paul’s hands. Thanks Jason! Appreciate it!
Hey I can finally post again! Christmas comes early!
The Chargers unis in the picture from monday night are also wet. The rain made them look a little darker than they really are.
link and link
that means in some anti-Chávez areas, Santa was dressed in blue
I remember seeing a blue-clad Santa in footage from (Francophone) Quebec, maybe ~20 years ago. And it didn’t have to do with the Nordiques.
[quote comment=”170107″]The Chargers unis in the picture from monday night are also wet. The rain made them look a little darker than they really are.[/quote]
I completely forgot about the rain.
[quote comment=”170070″][quote comment=”170060″]If you look at the logo on the thumb of link it seems to be that of link, a Quebec area sports equipment company. As far as I am aware, DR doesn’t have a deal with Reebok and judging by the faded logo there may have been an attempt to cover it up with some red marker. It seems to be similar to the situation of Helton Mizuno-izing his Nike shoes.
Another thing about Jagr is that he doesn’t lace up the first set of eyelets close to the toes on his skates. You can kind of see it in the previous photo. I have tried this technique and continue to use it today. It save a great deal of wear on the laces.[/quote]
The funny thing with Jagr is that as recently as last year, he was using a pair of really tore up old Koho gloves that had the Reebok logo placed on it. Of course, that wouldn’t matter as much, since Koho is owned by RBK now.
Joe Thornton has also done this a bunch in the past, wearing Easton gloves with CCM (for whom he’s one of the main endorsers) logos.[/quote]
It’s all about the comfort and feel (physically and psychologically). It’s the same with link link, the poster-boy for “link is properly broken-in, link?”
[quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
Apropos of nothing, I was on YouTube this morning and found an amazing (or at least amazing to me) clip.
Around ten years ago, someone put a mic on former Oilers/Rangers (and other teams) super-agitator Esa Tikkanen and followed him in a game. Unless you speak Finnish, you probably won’t understand much (although there is one English curse word in there) but the link boggle the mind.
That is the CSFA logo. You see it around town on cars quite often. (in Los Angeles that is)
The ad came in my email today and I thought of you. Major League emblems rendered in Hebrew. Enjoy
Geezers and the sparklers on the skates are pretty standard for old timers games. Last year I think it was Dave Ellet who did a bit where he got a penalty shot, the lights in the arena got dimmed, a spotlight got shone, he skated up the ice in slow motion, and had sparklers on his stick go off when he took a slapshot.
Geezer games suck.
Not uni-related, but does anyone else think new hockey Hall of Fame inductee link (on the far left) looks like B movie superstar and Old Spice spokesperson link?
[quote comment=”170107″]The Chargers unis in the picture from monday night are also wet. The rain made them look a little darker than they really are.[/quote]
Either way the Chargers vs. Colts is Ugly Uniforms vs. EVEN Uglier Uniforms.
Quick note about the Santa thing: He doesn’t wear red everywhere in the world. The only reason he does here is because Coke commissioned an artist to do an advertisement with Santa in it, so he made him with a red suit.
Second try on the link: link
The Grand Rapids Griffins are holding their annual matinee game and there are about 6,500 students, elementary to high school running around Van Andel Arena here in GR and I must say, considering I am not apart of the Griffins, just the arena, it is really hard to try and do work today in our office that is located right underneath the stands when my desk and monitor are shaking and vibrating from the crowd…
[quote comment=”170057″]Did Marcus Allen have a logo drawn on the tape of his cleats.[/quote]
I saw that too!! Looks like the Puma logo!! Drawn on his spats?? I don’t get it… it confuses.
I wonder if Carlos Zambrano’s penchant for the Cubs now retired blue “softball” alts was politically driven.
Paul,
About a month ago, you mentioned that the NY Giants equipment manager had a revolutionary idea that would make the red jersey look better. But since he needed league approval, you weren’t able to say what it was. Are you able to share that info now? Was it the red NY on the nose bumper?
[quote comment=”170124″]Second try on the link: link
Especially great is the White Sox and Dodgers. They are indiscernible!
[quote comment=”170132″]Paul,
About a month ago, you mentioned that the NY Giants equipment manager had a revolutionary idea that would make the red jersey look better. But since he needed league approval, you weren’t able to say what it was. Are you able to share that info now? Was it the red NY on the nose bumper?[/quote]
It was NOT the red nose bumper. I’m not at liberty to say what it was, but I can safely say you won’t be seeing it this season.
[quote comment=”170112″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.[/quote]
The politician? Yes, he certainly is.
Unless you speak Finnish, you probably won’t understand much
It does not matter where he was playing. Tik was known for being indecipherable in English.
[quote comment=”170135″][quote comment=”170112″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.[/quote]
The politician? Yes, he certainly is.[/quote]
No, not wearing the cap of a team because it just happens to be the middle initial of the President, whose politics you don’t agree with, that’s ridiculous.
One of my favorite quotes when it comes to politicians, from Bobcat Goldthwait,
“Blaming the President for the state of the country is like blaming Ronald McDonald when you get a bad cheeseburger….neither guy runs the company.”
If the Giants really want to go and jazz up their red jerseys, they should with the Alabama/Arkansas/Oklahoma look . . . red helmets, red jerseys, white pants. Though as the Seahawks’ getting their proposal to wear two sets of helmets shot down tells us, it’s unlikely that the league will approve an alternate set of headgear
[quote comment=”170112″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.[/quote]
Well, it’s the reason I will only wear the alt “DC” logo cap (that, and it makes more sense stylistically).
Didn’t the Redskins have a “home helmet” and an “away helmet” a couple of years ago? If I remember correctly they wore a Florida State-esque helmet at home and their regular helmet on the road. Why won’t the league allow multiple helmets?
Here’s ESPN’s rundown of the Redskins alts:
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I really liked the dual helmet look.
Yep, I concur that it’s tough reconciling the desire to wear Nats gear with the fear, however unlikely, of being perceived as a fan of that other “W.” The fact that the team’s primary color is red — the color lately associated with Republican leanings — only makes that harder.
So far I’ve purchased and proudly worn a blue “curly W” cap and a red “DC” cap. No red “W” cap until spring ’09 for me.
Those arrow helmets were part of the 70th anniversary season. The Skins have new throwbacks (oxymoron?) this year, for their 75th anniversary, as previously covered here.
Perhaps this has also been previously noted, but I find it funny that the Eagle and Steeler franchises (1933) are actually one year younger than the Redskins (1932), but all three are celebrating their 75th anniversaries this season!
[quote comment=”170153″]Here’s ESPN’s rundown of the Redskins alts:
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I really liked the dual helmet look.[/quote]
The Florida State Seminole helmet never did anything for me. Their (Redskins) current is perfect.
[quote comment=”170135″][quote comment=”170112″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.[/quote]
The politician? Yes, he certainly is.[/quote]
hey, keep the politics out of here!! the original comment about people not wearing the hat was very uni-related but the two follow-up remarks should not have been posted.
[quote comment=”170109″]that means in some anti-Chávez areas, Santa was dressed in blue
I remember seeing a blue-clad Santa in footage from (Francophone) Quebec, maybe ~20 years ago. And it didn’t have to do with the Nordiques.[/quote]
Are you sure it wasn’t Hanukkah Harry?
[quote comment=”170086″][quote comment=”170070″]
The funny thing with Jagr is that as recently as last year, he was using a pair of really tore up old Koho gloves that had the Reebok logo placed on it. Of course, that wouldn’t matter as much, since Koho is owned by RBK now.[/quote]
Jagr has used DR gloves before with the Caps and the Rangers.[/quote]
Here’s a picture from the time when his gloves had the Reebok logo. link
And here’s one from when they were Kohos.
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And if these link right, I’ll be so damn happy.
goddamnit…there are pics on google images (Jaromir Jagr rangers, first and third pages of results) if you care as much as I do.
[quote comment=”170099″]How is that significant – isn’t that what they wear now?
Indiana has alternated between white and crimson pants at home. They wore white pants against Penn State and I believe against Ball State.
As noted above, the main differences between the 1967 uniforms and today’s are the helmet logo (interlock IU today, block I then), the helmet stripe (two white stripes then, none today) and the facemasks (gray then, crimson today). IU’s current jerseys are fairly conservative (no outrageous fonts), but the 1967 jersey didn’t have “HOOSIERS” across the chest. Also, the shade of crimson worn in 1967 was somewhat lighter than the shade that IU wears now. Based on a helmet logo appearing on the IU website, I’m guessing that IU will be wearing roughly authentic jerseys (with the Adidas logo added, of course), but that the helmet will be the same one that IU wore in the 2005 Bucket game as a memorial to 1967 team member Terry Cole, who died in 2005 (accurate in all respects but the color and the facemask).
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My guess is that they will be wearing the current shade of crimson rather than the lighter shade. But, we will find out this afternoon, apparently.[/quote]
Gotcha – thanks to all for elaborating today.
[quote comment=”170112″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.[/quote]
But most definately true….what made it worse is when the whole “red state” “blue state” election happened people would only buy a Nats hat in the color of their chosen affiliation, I shit you not.
[quote comment=”170169″][quote comment=”170109″]that means in some anti-Chávez areas, Santa was dressed in blue
I remember seeing a blue-clad Santa in footage from (Francophone) Quebec, maybe ~20 years ago. And it didn’t have to do with the Nordiques.[/quote]
Are you sure it wasn’t Hanukkah Harry?[/quote]
“On Moische, on Herschel, on Schlomo….”
[quote comment=”170169″][quote comment=”170109″]that means in some anti-Chávez areas, Santa was dressed in blue
I remember seeing a blue-clad Santa in footage from (Francophone) Quebec, maybe ~20 years ago. And it didn’t have to do with the Nordiques.[/quote]
Are you sure it wasn’t Hanukkah Harry?[/quote]
Santa doesn’t get sick every year, you know!
[quote comment=”170181″][quote comment=”170099″]How is that significant – isn’t that what they wear now?
Indiana has alternated between white and crimson pants at home. They wore white pants against Penn State and I believe against Ball State.
As noted above, the main differences between the 1967 uniforms and today’s are the helmet logo (interlock IU today, block I then), the helmet stripe (two white stripes then, none today) and the facemasks (gray then, crimson today). IU’s current jerseys are fairly conservative (no outrageous fonts), but the 1967 jersey didn’t have “HOOSIERS” across the chest. Also, the shade of crimson worn in 1967 was somewhat lighter than the shade that IU wears now. Based on a helmet logo appearing on the IU website, I’m guessing that IU will be wearing roughly authentic jerseys (with the Adidas logo added, of course), but that the helmet will be the same one that IU wore in the 2005 Bucket game as a memorial to 1967 team member Terry Cole, who died in 2005 (accurate in all respects but the color and the facemask).
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My guess is that they will be wearing the current shade of crimson rather than the lighter shade. But, we will find out this afternoon, apparently.[/quote]
Gotcha – thanks to all for elaborating today.[/quote]
Indiana had white pants on for matchups with Minnesota and Penn State at home this season. They wore the red for the Ball State game (according to the picture of Ray Fisher’s 60-yard TD on my desktop).
When they wore the throwback helmets with the current uniforms in ’05, I believe they went with the red pants. Hopefully they’ll make the throwbacks happen for real this time and live up to the memory of that ’67 bucket game.
[quote comment=”170148″][quote comment=”170112″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.[/quote]
Well, it’s the reason I will only wear the alt “DC” logo cap (that, and it makes more sense stylistically).[/quote]
Ah, so you’re more of a Dick Cheney fan.
(Heh, had to ruin that cap too!)
[quote comment=”170083″]Catching up on last night’s comments…
[quote comment=”169818″]More from the Topps front… the link card is a disgrace — he’s clearly at Shea Stadium in a home Rockies jersey.[/quote]
Not only that, they didn’t bother to give him the right uni number. He wore 16 with the Rockies last year and 7 this year, but the photo has him with either 2 or 20-something, probably his Mets number, whatever it was.[/quote]
Nice catch ! Also take a look at the NY logo (on the hat) in Orange/blue they did such a lousy job of masking!
After going to UCLA’s home games this season and seeing link, I have been wondering what UCLA basketball’s away jersey are going to look like. I found link browsing the UCLA online store today.
[quote comment=”170192″][quote comment=”170083″]Catching up on last night’s comments…
[quote comment=”169818″]More from the Topps front… the link card is a disgrace — he’s clearly at Shea Stadium in a home Rockies jersey.[/quote]
Not only that, they didn’t bother to give him the right uni number. He wore 16 with the Rockies last year and 7 this year, but the photo has him with either 2 or 20-something, probably his Mets number, whatever it was.[/quote]
Nice catch ! Also take a look at the NY logo (on the hat) in Orange/blue they did such a lousy job of masking![/quote]
as long as he’s not wearing a Mets uniform I don’t care how bad the retouching is.
What is wrong with this picture?
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That jersey looks like it is 3 sizes too big for him.
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can any1 clear up what turn ahead the clock unis were i have some attached photoes but i dont no y people were thenm
can any1 clear up what turn ahead the clock unis were i have some attached photoes but i dont no y people were thenm
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[quote comment=”170205″]What is wrong with this picture?That jersey looks like it is 3 sizes too big for him.[/quote]
perhaps TOPPS photoshopped it for him
Indiana had white pants on for matchups with Minnesota and Penn State at home this season. They wore the red for the Ball State game (according to the picture of Ray Fisher’s 60-yard TD on my desktop).
When they wore the throwback helmets with the current uniforms in ‘05, I believe they went with the red pants. Hopefully they’ll make the throwbacks happen for real this time and live up to the memory of that ‘67 bucket game.
Kyle, thanks for the correction. I knew that they wore the white pants at home (for the first time in a couple of years) because of an unseasonably hot day, but I was confusing the PSU and Minny games.
You are correct about the 2005 Bucket game. The Mallory uniforms and the block I helmet were retired a year after I graduated, so it was really eerie to see the all-crimson look (Mal’s preferred big game attire) and the helmets on that day.
[quote comment=”170205″]What is wrong with this picture?
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That jersey looks like it is 3 sizes too big for him.
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Why is Eric Byrnes the go-to guy for anything MLB related in the media? I see him everywhere now, especially for not being much of a superstar. According to b-r, similar batters include Todd Hollandsworth, Jeffrey Hammonds, and Gary Ward. None of them have radio shows.
IU jersey patch photos and jersey photos.
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[quote comment=”170205″]What is wrong with this picture?
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That jersey looks like it is 3 sizes too big for him.
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I think you answered your own question……the damn thing’s 3 sizes too big!
Lordy, when will ball players start to wear uniforms that fit them again??!!? I’m real tired of seeing basketball teams wearing link!!!!!!!!
How about this photo?
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What’s the deal with the eyelets in the crotch region? I haven’t seen anyone where those in a long time, if ever.
[quote comment=”170226″]How about this photo?
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What’s the deal with the eyelets in the crotch region? I haven’t seen anyone where those in a long time, if ever.[/quote]
I don’t know. I’m assuming it’s for a lace up fly. I think they are pretty common. It link to be link on link (look closely) though.
link Raiders players have them as well.
[quote comment=”170158″]Those arrow helmets were part of the 70th anniversary season. The Skins have new throwbacks (oxymoron?) this year, for their 75th anniversary, as previously covered here.
Perhaps this has also been previously noted, but I find it funny that the Eagle and Steeler franchises (1933) are actually one year younger than the Redskins (1932), but all three are celebrating their 75th anniversaries this season![/quote]
It’s probably because of that season where the Eagles and the Steelers combined to become the Steeler-Eagles (Eagle-Steelers? Steagles?) because of the war.
has anyone noticed the spats that Marcus Allen has over his cleats in the pick above. they seem to have the puma logo colored over them. correct me if im wrong
[quote comment=”170235″][quote comment=”170158″]Those arrow helmets were part of the 70th anniversary season. The Skins have new throwbacks (oxymoron?) this year, for their 75th anniversary, as previously covered here.
Perhaps this has also been previously noted, but I find it funny that the Eagle and Steeler franchises (1933) are actually one year younger than the Redskins (1932), but all three are celebrating their 75th anniversaries this season![/quote]
It’s probably because of that season where the Eagles and the Steelers combined to become the Steeler-Eagles (Eagle-Steelers? Steagles?) because of the war.[/quote]
They are commonly referred to as the Steagles, and I’m pretty sure that both the teams count the records from that year (the Steelers did it the following year with Chicago, resulting in a team known as “Card-Pitt” with a silent “d”).
Is this a “75 seasons” vs. “75th Anniversary” distinction?
hey, keep the politics out of here!! the original comment about people not wearing the hat was very uni-related but the two follow-up remarks should not have been posted.
Take it to the top then, and the notes about which players don’t have “american” flag decals — that’s just as political, and if there are athletes who are making a statement that they don’t want to be advertising for that cause, then I say good for them … though I doubt that’s really what’s going on.
[quote comment=”170191″][quote comment=”170148″][quote comment=”170112″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.[/quote]
Well, it’s the reason I will only wear the alt “DC” logo cap (that, and it makes more sense stylistically).[/quote]
Ah, so you’re more of a Dick Cheney fan.[/quote]
Isn’t that like saying, “you’re more of an Easter Bunny?”
I don’t get why people are so offended by politics on this blog…sure, it’s meant to talk about uni’s and sports, I get that, and we should generally stay in that direction. But people seem actually OFFENDED when politics come up. I think its a sad state of the world we live in when people are so adverse to, well, the real world.
I remember when the Marcus Allen thing happened – becuase I was initially excited that the Raiders were going to change to black facemasks for the next year. My recollection is that he forgot his helmet, he borrowed a high school helmet, on which they threw the Raiders logos. Alas, the Raiders never made the move to black facemasks.
[quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
I was excited to get my new Washington Nats hat a couple years back (the first cap I remember wearing as a child was a Washington Senators cap since we lived in Virginia) because I thought it looked cool. The first thing my wife said to me is…”why are you wearing a George Bush hat?”…sucked ALL the joy out of it, and I’ve hardly been able to bring myself to wear it since.
[quote comment=”170245″]I don’t get why people are so offended by politics on this blog…sure, it’s meant to talk about uni’s and sports, I get that, and we should generally stay in that direction. But people seem actually OFFENDED when politics come up. I think its a sad state of the world we live in when people are so adverse to, well, the real world.[/quote]
Speaking for myself, I’ve seen too many newsgroups, listserves, and blogs devolve into flame wars, with long-lasting bad feelings all around, when political discussion starts. This is a very friendly site and I’d just as soon keep it that way, and I think keeping it politics-free will help. So I’m not offended, just hyper-cautious.
And the word you want is “averse.” Common mistake.
Don’t know if anyone just caught the Hummer Press Pass on Sportscenter on Memphis, but a interesting brand issue unfolded. The piece showed film of a Memphis practice and several Memphis players were wearing Nike sneakers, while Memphis is an Adidas program. One was wearing the Jordan VIII retro while another was wearing the Nike Zoom Soldier. The video should be up on ESPN.com soon.
Did anyone see the UCLA game last night? i noticed that the cheerleaders had some striped socks that caught my eye, and i dont know if it’s been mentioned yet but NBA live is having a jersey design contest and the winner’s design will be featured in the game
[quote comment=”170233″][quote comment=”170226″]How about this photo?
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What’s the deal with the eyelets in the crotch region? I haven’t seen anyone where those in a long time, if ever.[/quote]
I don’t know. I’m assuming it’s for a lace up fly. I think they are pretty common. It link to be link on link (look closely) though.
link Raiders players have them as well.[/quote]
Yup, lace-up fly. They were lace-up when I wore ’em, and I assume they still are.
Any fly modifications in the recent past, Paul?
Anyone have pictures of the 1980 Raiders? I remember Burgess Owens having a white facemask (I have always thought he brought it with him from the Jets) and Kenny King has a sawed off “birdcage” (similar to the one Kenny Stabler wore). The Raiders have always been avante garde in gear and their uniforms are second to none.
[quote comment=”170248″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
I was excited to get my new Washington Nats hat a couple years back (the first cap I remember wearing as a child was a Washington Senators cap since we lived in Virginia) because I thought it looked cool. The first thing my wife said to me is…”why are you wearing a George Bush hat?”…sucked ALL the joy out of it, and I’ve hardly been able to bring myself to wear it since.[/quote]
That “W” connection has occured to me a few times when I see people wearing the cap. It probably has as much to do with those obnoxious “W: The President” stickers on cars as anything else.
Oh, well. You’re cap will be brand new come it’s Opening Day 2009 debut!
The NHL unveiled this years all star jerseys this afternoon. They’re a little plain if you ask me but heres the pics.
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I havnt heard anyone’s opinion on usc’s football and basketball uniforms on this site before and i was just wondering what you men and women think about them.
[quote comment=”170279″]The NHL unveiled this years all star jerseys this afternoon. They’re a little plain if you ask me but heres the pics.
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Oh man those are plain. I wish they would just always use link ones. They were the best All-Star game jerseys ever, in any sport.
A uni-related puzzler on NPR’s Car Talk this week:
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[quote comment=”170279″]The NHL unveiled this years all star jerseys this afternoon. They’re a little plain if you ask me but heres the pics.
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Actually not bad for an All Star uni.
[quote comment=”170256″]Don’t know if anyone just caught the Hummer Press Pass on Sportscenter on Memphis, but a interesting brand issue unfolded. The piece showed film of a Memphis practice and several Memphis players were wearing Nike sneakers, while Memphis is an Adidas program. One was wearing the Jordan VIII retro while another was wearing the Nike Zoom Soldier. The video should be up on ESPN.com soon.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s a nice catch; that will be some heavy fines if a Nike rep caught that.
Nike takes it on the link.
[quote comment=”170326″]Nike takes it on the link.[/quote]
The recalled football helmet chin strap was made in China
pretty much sums it up right there
[quote comment=”170279″]The NHL unveiled this years all star jerseys this afternoon. They’re a little plain if you ask me but heres the pics.
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Ridiculously boring.
[quote comment=”170342″][quote comment=”170279″]The NHL unveiled this years all star jerseys this afternoon. They’re a little plain if you ask me but heres the pics.
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Ridiculously boring.[/quote]
Same template (yawn), non-Rangers word mark (crap), and probably the same half-stripes on the socks (sh*t). Definitely a design punt.
[quote comment=”170342″][quote comment=”170279″]The NHL unveiled this years all star jerseys this afternoon. They’re a little plain if you ask me but heres the pics.
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Ridiculously boring.[/quote]
i agree all that room at the bottom sucks major
[quote comment=”170248″]I was excited to get my new Washington Nats hat a couple years back (the first cap I remember wearing as a child was a Washington Senators cap since we lived in Virginia) because I thought it looked cool. The first thing my wife said to me is…”why are you wearing a George Bush hat?”…sucked ALL the joy out of it, and I’ve hardly been able to bring myself to wear it since.[/quote]
I’ve assumed this is why it’s quite a popular design in a few places around the country. I’ve found the Red “W” hat on sale in abundance in both Columbus, OH, and suburban Orlando in the last few months during my travels. No other out-of-state teams were available at any of these stores.
“One item from the weekend that I missed in yesterday’s post….” Did I miss a post yesterday?! Anyone talk about Georgia’s black jerseys?
[quote comment=”170326″]Nike takes it on the link.[/quote]
I s’ppose it’s more of a figure of speech than it is a pun.
It’s been bugging me all night.
Y’all should check out Hot Fuzz.
Good night!
[quote comment=”170353″][quote comment=”170342″][quote comment=”170279″]The NHL unveiled this years all star jerseys this afternoon. They’re a little plain if you ask me but heres the pics.
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Ridiculously boring.[/quote]
i agree all that room at the bottom sucks major[/quote]
I would assume we’ll going to see numbers on the front ala Dallas. BTW I was going to post this as these All-Star jerseys are in the NHL catalog I got in the mail yesterday.
[quote comment=”170156″]Yep, I concur that it’s tough reconciling the desire to wear Nats gear with the fear, however unlikely, of being perceived as a fan of that other “W.” The fact that the team’s primary color is red — the color lately associated with Republican leanings — only makes that harder.
So far I’ve purchased and proudly worn a blue “curly W” cap and a red “DC” cap. No red “W” cap until spring ’09 for me.[/quote]
My, aren’t you brave.
[quote comment=”170216″][quote comment=”170205″]What is wrong with this picture?
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That jersey looks like it is 3 sizes too big for him.
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Why is Eric Byrnes the go-to guy for anything MLB related in the media? I see him everywhere now, especially for not being much of a superstar. According to b-r, similar batters include Todd Hollandsworth, Jeffrey Hammonds, and Gary Ward. None of them have radio shows.[/quote]
He’s ‘gritty.’ And white. I’m surprised David Eckstein doesn’t have a sitcom by now.
[quote comment=”170273″][quote comment=”170248″][quote comment=”170071″]I’m not surprised about Venezuela, I know people here in the DC area who actually refuse to wear the Nationals script “W” cap, because of a certain politician currently in office…![/quote]
I was excited to get my new Washington Nats hat a couple years back (the first cap I remember wearing as a child was a Washington Senators cap since we lived in Virginia) because I thought it looked cool. The first thing my wife said to me is…”why are you wearing a George Bush hat?”…sucked ALL the joy out of it, and I’ve hardly been able to bring myself to wear it since.[/quote]
That “W” connection has occured to me a few times when I see people wearing the cap. It probably has as much to do with those obnoxious “W: The President” stickers on cars as anything else.
Oh, well. You’re cap will be brand new come it’s Opening Day 2009 debut![/quote]
Well, do we all realize the Washington script “W” predates the other W by a few decades? Sorry, but that’s a lousy reason no to wear a hat to support your favorite team. Go Senators, er, Nationals!
[quote comment=”170063″]Pretty sure that Mike Nolan was wearing last year’s Telex/Motorola headset last night instead of the current model. Anyone have a screenshot? If I had to guess a reason, I’d say the 12th man. A friend who works for Telex tells me that this years’ headsets are acoustically horrible, but that Motorola sees them primarily as advertising rather than a functional product. Maybe he pulled out last year’s set so he could hear better?[/quote]
Interesting. My Redskins said they have been having communication problems all season.