Sunday Open Thread

Why was Schilling wearing a Cool Base jersey last night? link

Also, anyone know the story behind this Sox cap?
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[quote comment=”156412″]Silly question. When teams retir a jersey do they use that year’s jersey, or from the time the player being honored was on the team?[/quote]

The Jets retired Joe Namath and Don Maynard’s jerseys using the 1960’s jersey style, back when the current team was wearing the ’78-97 style. The team did the opposite when it retired Joe Klecko’s jersey a couple of years ago. (If you look carefully at a video or picture of the on-field ceremony, you’ll see Marty Lyons wearing his 1984 jersey with the AFL 25th Anniversary patch.)

The Islanders had a couple of jersey retirements during the brief, unfortunate fishstick era (Clark Gillies was one, I think) and of course used the original design for the retired number.

[quote comment=”156412″]Silly question. When teams retir a jersey do they use that year’s jersey, or from the time the player being honored was on the team?[/quote]

In addition, all of the Nets’ retired number banners reflect the uniform worn in that player’s time (compare the Erving and Petrovic banners).

[quote comment=”156415″]North Adams Steeplecats of the New England Collegiate League have these types of caps, but they seem to have been phased out at the major league level.[/quote]

Partially right. They wear the black/yellow cap on the road. At home it’s link.

I took that picture of Nick McCully after his no-hitter at home on July 2nd. Struck out 11 that night.

GO CATS!

[quote comment=”156415″]What ever happened to the days of teams like the Blue Jays, Orioles, Padres, Brewers and Expos (and others, I’m sure) wearing caps that had different colors on the front than the back? I know the Vermont Lake Monsters of the NYPenn league and the North Adams Steeplecats of the New England Collegiate League have these types of caps, but they seem to have been phased out at the major league level.[/quote]

Centennial Field in Burlington, home of the last team named Expos in baseball?
North Adams?

Where you at, Scott? I’m in northern CT myself.

Except for the truncated shoulder stripes, the NY Titans uniforms look awesome.

The rams are wearing the blue pants again. Did they make a permanent sweitch?

[quote comment=”156412″]Silly question. When teams retir a jersey do they use that year’s jersey, or from the time the player being honored was on the team?[/quote]
The Yankees’ numbers in left field are all in Wilson varsity, although several players like Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle wore block numbers on their backs. Perhaps they just made all of the numbers consistent after the 70’s renovations. But they are still in chronological order, from left to right (4; 3; 5;…).
When did the Yankees adopt the Wilson varsity number font?

This is way off topic, but I have nowhere else to go. What does the hand waving in front of the face mean? More and more players are doing it after a good play (or even after a decent play.)

A follow up on last weeks Packers shoe fines, link you can see Favre wearing the right shoes and Woodson wearing his yellow birthday shoes.

Bucs wearing all-white at home against the Titans, who again are wearing the dark blue tops and the light blue pants. It would make more sense for the Titans to wear their light blue tops in Florida, but I suppose that teams generally don’t wear their alternates on the road.

This is way off topic, but I have nowhere else to go. What does the hand waving in front of the face mean? More and more players are doing it after a good play (or even after a decent play.)

Vince, it means “you can’t see me”. First time I ever saw it was when professional wrestler John Cena did it. It’s dumb. Some kid on my college team did it and we all laughed at him the next day in the film session.

Damn the Jets are looking fine in those Titans unis! Not they’re playing, I’m just talking aesthetics.

Is Santana Moss wearing a collared shirt underneath his jersey? Quite regal, Santana!… and completely ridiculous as well. Again, I come with no photographic evidence. Can anyone else who is watching the WSH-GB game confirm this?

Devin Hester started the game with a clear visor but is no longer wearing it, presumably because of the on and off rain.

Also Desmond Clarks “C” logo on the helmet is missing part of the top of the C

[quote comment=”156476″][quote comment=”156475″]Is Santana Moss wearing a collared shirt underneath his jersey? Quite regal, Santana!… and completely ridiculous as well. Again, I come with no photographic evidence. Can anyone else who is watching the WSH-GB game confirm this?[/quote]
I’m watching the game, I’ll check[/quote]
Nope, he isn’t. They just showed a close up of his fumble and he didn’t have a collar

Jets are now 0-4 in white, 0-1 in Titans blue, and 1-0 in green.

Hmmmm………

Today’s Boston Globe:

“Color analyst makes point

Faithful reader Jim Burrows believes the NHL is missing out on a huge marketing/branding opportunity.

Burrows wonders why the league doesn’t mandate the use of team logos on player helmets, making them as much a part of the uniform – and, more important, team identity – as they are in football.

“Can you imagine where the NFL would be if they had taken the same approach?” said Burrows. “Imagine the Colts playing away [games] with a blue helmet! The helmet is central to the brand in football.”

Adding to Burrows’s point is the fact that the NHL now has all visiting teams wearing their white sweaters. Ergo, colors never really change in each of the 30 rinks. For instance, the Bruins wear black each game – and long gone are the days when the Blackhawks showed up in their blood-red sweaters, or the Canadiens in their patented red, the Sharks in their teal.

This has only added to the anonymity factor the NHL constantly bucks. In days of yore, as clubs came into “your” building, at least the laundry changed. Now it’s just variations on the same theme – white, whiter, and whitest (maybe a Clorox sponsorship is in the offing?).

“My suggestion is a contest in every city, to choose the helmet to be worn by every club,” said Burrows. “It will improve the brand identity of each club and the look of the game – both live and on HDTV.”

Is Santana Moss wearing a collared shirt underneath his jersey? Quite regal, Santana!… and completely ridiculous as well.

Somebody (I can’t remember who) had something that looked like a collared shirt in a sideline shot, but at second glance it seemed like it was a mock turtleneck style shirt that had been cut in the middle.

I remember that too. It was either will smith or charles grant of the saints.

[quote comment=”156436″]Historically, I have been late to the party when noticing uni-related items (so please forgive me if this has been mentioned before)… I am watching the WSH-GB game on Fox and the refs are not wearing black pants with their long sleeve zebra stripes. Is this a league-wide change this year to ditch the black? I have no pics since the game is only minutes old, but I thought it was worth mentioning.[/quote]

I’m almost certain that the black pants are used for cold weather games only.

What numbers have been retired the most? Which players have had their numbers retired by multiple teams? Which players have had different numbers retired by different teams (e.g.Reggie Jackson’s 9 by the A’s, and 44 by the Yankees)?

[quote comment=”156517″][quote comment=”156516″]What numbers have been retired the most? Which players have had their numbers retired by multiple teams? Which players have had different numbers retired by different teams (e.g.Reggie Jackson’s 9 by the A’s, and 44 by the Yankees)?[/quote]
Carlton Fisk: Red Sox 27, White Sox 72
Henry Aaron: Brewers and Braves 44
Casey Stengel: Mets and Yankees 37
Rod Carew: Angels and Twins 29
Jackie Robinson: Everybody but the Yankees 42
Are we only talking baseball here?[/quote]
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[quote comment=”156458″]This is way off topic, but I have nowhere else to go. What does the hand waving in front of the face mean? More and more players are doing it after a good play (or even after a decent play.)

Vince, it means “you can’t see me”. First time I ever saw it was when professional wrestler John Cena did it. It’s dumb. Some kid on my college team did it and we all laughed at him the next day in the film session.[/quote]

In football, it means that a pass was uncatchable. You see defensive backs do this after manhandling receivers, trying to buy a call, because pass interference is null and void if the referee deems that the pass was uncatchable. Has nothing to do, at least in football, with the “you can’t see me” rigamorale.

[quote comment=”156531″]Are we only talking baseball here?

No. How about the four majors. I’m guessing 1 and 9 in hockey to be common, and 12 and 32 in football.[/quote]
Obviously, in hockey, 99 is the most commonly retired number :-D
In basketball, 22 and 32 are most commonly retired.

link says:
Some have advocated giving Roberto Clemente’s number 21 a similar treatment. They feel that Clemente’s impact on the Hispanic community is equal to that of Robinson’s on the black community. The target goal for the retirement was in time for the 2006 MLB All-Star Game in Pittsburgh, where Clemente played. RetireClemente21.com collected over 70,000 signatures for the effort.

This seems misguided.

Jackie Robinson was honored by baseball for his contributions to and the impact he made on baseball, not the black community. MLB is not in the position to honor someone for something they did for someone else.

As great a ballplayer and humanitarian as Roberto Clemente was, he was not the first Latino in baseball, nor was his expirience at all similar to Jackie Robinson’s. Jackie had to get into and stay in the game. Roberto only had to play it.

If Roberto Clemente’s number is retired for his impact on the hispanic community, then will Hideo Nomo’s or Ichiro’s be retired for their impact on the asian community?

[quote comment=”156531″]Are we only talking baseball here?

No. How about the four majors. I’m guessing 1 and 9 in hockey to be common, and 12 and 32 in football.[/quote]

Just off the top of my head;

1 has been retired by Montreal, Buffalo and NY Rangers.
9 has been retired by Detroit, Montreal, Chicago, Boston, NY Islanders and Hartford (not sure if Carolina is keeping it retired)
Mark Messier’s 11 retired by both Edmonton and NY Rangers.
19 retired by Dallas and NY Islanders; Montreal will retire it this season, don’t know if Detroit has retired it for Yzerman, Colorado will do it when Sakic retires.

[quote comment=”156454″]A follow up on last weeks Packers shoe fines, link you can see Favre wearing the right shoes and Woodson wearing his yellow birthday shoes.[/quote]

Probly already been said but those are the T90 Lasers which Sean Taylor and Clinton Portis wear as well.

[quote comment=”156455″]Did anyone see the Kentucky/LSU game yesterday? During the game they showed clips from years when the Kentucky had defeated #1 ranked teams. During one of the clips, Kentucky had a player wearing a jersey with 1A as a number. Does anyone have the ability to get a screen grab of this. Does anyone know why they did this? Sorry after last nights tomfoolery, I can’t remember what time they showed it. I think it was later in the game though.[/quote]

I totally saw that too! I was like JIGGA WHAT? And I had to rewind and go back.

I think we can now call off the LT Flag Watch, I’m pretty sure I saw a decal on his helmet this week.

Belichick does tend to slightly look a little more “classy” on the road but it was also around 80 degrees at kickoff so a sweatshirt would have been too hot. ESPN Countdown actually just did a story on it this morning. He says he wears it because it’s comfortable and they also said that he likes the middle pouch of the hooded sweatshirt to hold things and put his hands in. He also cuts off the sleeves himself.

[quote comment=”156475″]Is Santana Moss wearing a collared shirt underneath his jersey? Quite regal, Santana!… and completely ridiculous as well. Again, I come with no photographic evidence. Can anyone else who is watching the WSH-GB game confirm this?[/quote]

I was watching the same SKINS-PACKERS game as you. Santana Moss was sitting on the sideline and it did appear as if he had a white collared shirt under his pads!

It looks like the scheduled retirements for this season are Larry Robinson 19 and Bob Gainey 23 from Montreal (who is completely out of control w/ their banners) and the Rangers Brian Leetch 2, whose not listed on the Wiki page.

What’s up with Chris Canty’s link?

[quote comment=”156569″]I think we can now call off the LT Flag Watch, I’m pretty sure I saw a decal on his helmet this week.[/quote]
Sorry, but alas, no flag for LT :(

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If that link dont work, try this:
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i was just gonna say, no flag for LT. seems like the bolt comes down lower that than others?

[quote comment=”156556″][quote comment=”156555″]Bill Belichick’s wearing a polo shirt today. Maybe he noticed his hoodie was missing that “E”. Also combed his hair and put on a pair of what appears to be khakis.[/quote]

Not positive, but I think he’s more apt to do polo/khakis routine for road games.[/quote]

For warm weather away games, it’s the Polo and khakis. Dallas was warmer than it was here in Massachusetts where most of us were wearing our hoodies.

[quote comment=”156514″][quote comment=”156501″]Today’s Boston Globe:

“Color analyst makes point

Faithful reader Jim Burrows believes the NHL is missing out on a huge marketing/branding opportunity.

Burrows wonders why the league doesn’t mandate the use of team logos on player helmets, making them as much a part of the uniform – and, more important, team identity – as they are in football.

“Can you imagine where the NFL would be if they had taken the same approach?” said Burrows. “Imagine the Colts playing away [games] with a blue helmet! The helmet is central to the brand in football.”

Adding to Burrows’s point is the fact that the NHL now has all visiting teams wearing their white sweaters. Ergo, colors never really change in each of the 30 rinks. For instance, the Bruins wear black each game – and long gone are the days when the Blackhawks showed up in their blood-red sweaters, or the Canadiens in their patented red, the Sharks in their teal.

This has only added to the anonymity factor the NHL constantly bucks. In days of yore, as clubs came into “your” building, at least the laundry changed. Now it’s just variations on the same theme – white, whiter, and whitest (maybe a Clorox sponsorship is in the offing?).

“My suggestion is a contest in every city, to choose the helmet to be worn by every club,” said Burrows. “It will improve the brand identity of each club and the look of the game – both live and on HDTV.”[/quote]

I sugested the exact same thing in an ESPN column a few yrs back.[/quote]
Any chance of you reprinting that article here?

It looks like the scheduled retirements for this season are Larry Robinson 19 and Bob Gainey 23 from Montreal (who is completely out of control w/ their banners) and the Rangers Brian Leetch 2, whose not listed on the Wiki page.

Is it just me, or is there something not quite right about the Rangers retiring 2 for Brian Leetch, but not for Brad Park?

Obviously, in hockey, 99 is the most commonly retired number :-D
In basketball, 22 and 32 are most commonly retired.

22? I’ve got Dave DeBuesschure(sp?)and Elgin Baylor. Who else?

[quote comment=”156609″]Obviously, in hockey, 99 is the most commonly retired number :-D
In basketball, 22 and 32 are most commonly retired.

22? I’ve got Dave DeBuesschure(sp?)and Elgin Baylor. Who else?[/quote]

Celtics’ Ed Macauley.

North Adams Steeplecats of the New England Collegiate League have these types of caps, but they seem to have been phased out at the major league level.

Partially right. They wear the black/yellow cap on the road. At home it’s solid black.

What do you mean “partially right”? My phrasing makes me EXACTLY right… :)

I guess Arizona and Colorado answered my question: both teams CAN wear dark-colored alternates so long as they are not the same color. It looks like a spring-training game tonight.

[quote comment=”156615″]North Adams Steeplecats of the New England Collegiate League have these types of caps, but they seem to have been phased out at the major league level.

Partially right. They wear the black/yellow cap on the road. At home it’s solid black.

What do you mean “partially right”? My phrasing makes me EXACTLY right… :)

I guess Arizona and Colorado answered my question: both teams CAN wear dark-colored alternates so long as they are not the same color. It looks like a spring-training game tonight.[/quote]
Or too similar. The D-Backs in black (must have been a Saturday day game) and the Mets (very late in the season, because I remember Trevor Hoffman losing it twice), on several occasions, made the visiting Padres wear their “technically road, but thanks to the over-used alternate, essentially ‘to avoid clashing'” khaki tops. So apparently, you can’t have black and navy in the same game.

[quote comment=”156576″][quote comment=”156475″]Is Santana Moss wearing a collared shirt underneath his jersey? Quite regal, Santana!… and completely ridiculous as well. Again, I come with no photographic evidence. Can anyone else who is watching the WSH-GB game confirm this?[/quote]

I was watching the same SKINS-PACKERS game as you. Santana Moss was sitting on the sideline and it did appear as if he had a white collared shirt under his pads![/quote]

link is the best picture that I can find so far of the alleged white-collared wide receiver, although I completely acknowledge that it is not conclusive evidence.

Seahawks linebacker Julian Peterson is wearing some awful shoes tonight.

In college action on ESPN, Boise State is going with the blue monochromatic look on the blue turf. At game speed, I wonder how much trouble this gives the quarterback trying to find his receivers, or for the opposing quarterback to locate their defenders.

So happy to see the Saints wearing the gold pants. Now if only they decide to wear them with the black jerseys.

[quote comment=”156594″]
I don’t know if they’ve put up retired number banners at the Bell Centre, but the Coupe Stanley Cup banners were the only ones at the Forum. There were enough to be considered “out of control”.[/quote]

As a die-hard Montreal Canadiens fan who has been to the Forum on numerous occasions, I can tell you for a fact that they did have the retired numbers hanging from the rafters. Until recently, the organization was criticized for having so few numbers retired. Over the past 2 years, they have done a good job of honoring more players.

1 – Jacques Plante (10/07/1995)
2 – Doug Harvey (10/26/1985)
4 – Jean Beliveau (10/09/1971)
5 – Bernard Geoffrion (03/11/2006)
7 – Howie Morenz (11/02/1937)
9 – Maurice Richard (10/06/1960)
10 – Guy Lafleur (02/16/1985)
12 – Dickie Moore and Yvon Cournoyer (11/12/2005)
16 – Henri Richard (12/10/1975)
18 – Serge Savard (11/18/2006)
19 – Larry Robinson (11/19/2007)
23 – Bob Gainey (02/23/2008)
29 – Ken Dryden (01/29/2007)

on the topic of retired numbers…wasn’t Dale Murphy’s No. 3 also retired by the Rox for a brief period of time?

If there is video of the hoody interview pls post link, i’d love to see it.

[quote comment=”156530″][quote comment=”156458″]This is way off topic, but I have nowhere else to go. What does the hand waving in front of the face mean? More and more players are doing it after a good play (or even after a decent play.)

Vince, it means “you can’t see me”. First time I ever saw it was when professional wrestler John Cena did it. It’s dumb. Some kid on my college team did it and we all laughed at him the next day in the film session.[/quote]

In football, it means that a pass was uncatchable. You see defensive backs do this after manhandling receivers, trying to buy a call, because pass interference is null and void if the referee deems that the pass was uncatchable. Has nothing to do, at least in football, with the “you can’t see me” rigamorale.[/quote]
nope, that “uncatchable” motion is the hand over the head, not in front. this is definitely that “you can’t see me” thing.

Hey, Im not sure if this has been discussed, but what happened to Hawaii wearing silver helmets on the road? On Friday night they wore their home Green helmets with their white road uniforms.

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There are better pictures from both games available on their respective espn game recap pages but the link to those pictures would not work.

Vido link with a commentator talking about and showing Martin Gerber’s new mask. Not only is the paint job mentioned, but apparently he’s using a new and safer mask that’s supposed to reduce concussions because of it’s shape.

[quote comment=”156556″][quote comment=”156555″]Bill Belichick’s wearing a polo shirt today. Maybe he noticed his hoodie was missing that “E”. Also combed his hair and put on a pair of what appears to be khakis.[/quote]

Not positive, but I think he’s more apt to do polo/khakis routine for road games.[/quote]

It was 80 degrees at gametime. I don’t think he really needed the hoody.