Monday Morning Uni Watch

In those Nike ads featuring LT and Stephen Jackson, the officials are wearing their “old” (pre-2006) uniforms.

Clinton Portis is actually wearing soccer shoes. They are the white version of the Nike Total 90 Laser. I’ve noticed several players wearing soccer boots this season, but can’t think of any off the top of my head…

[quote comment=”146887″]Clinton Portis is actually wearing soccer shoes. They are the white version of the Nike Total 90 Laser. I’ve noticed several players wearing soccer boots this season, but can’t think of any off the top of my head…[/quote]

Maybe he should switch back before he throws any more handoffs at the defensive line. Seriously, man…that stuff made me sick.

…uniforms looked good, though.

[quote comment=”146892″]I was watching the USF-North Carolina game on TV Saturday. Did anyone else notice what looked like black tape on the back of the NC jersey’s. They are at the very top, above the name plate.

It looked as though NC was blocking out some insignia that was not suppose to be seen.

What gives?[/quote]

I didn’t see what you are referring to, but this is probably the Virginia Tech memorial stripe that all of the ACC schools are wearing this year.

Most are wearing it on the front of their jerseys, but perhaps UNC has it on the back? Seems like an odd location for it, but it is possible.

I was watching the USF-North Carolina game on TV Saturday. Did anyone else notice what looked like black tape on the back of the NC jersey’s. They are at the very top, above the name plate.

Most are wearing it on the front of their jerseys, but perhaps UNC has it on the back? Seems like an odd location for it, but it is possible.

I saw that game, it was the VT mark. So far, I have seen that FSU is wearing it above their jersey branding (I think, it’s been a while since I saw that), BC is wearing it above their Eagle on the Shoulder, and those are all that I remember. Paul, could you help with that one? There seem to be a lot of questions/comments about it.

Also, I don’t think that hockey tape will ever completely go away. I’m sure that the socks fit tighter, but even so, I know I like having my shin guards cinched down pretty tight. Makes me feel a little more protected, and more stable when sccelerating.

I didn’t see what you are referring to, but this is probably the Virginia Tech memorial stripe that all of the ACC schools are wearing this year.

All ACC teams are wearing them as a tribute to the VaTech massacre victims.

Thanks.

I am surprised they did not just use the ribbon with the Va Tech colors like we have seen on a number of occasions.

And yes…the placement is very odd.

Maybe I’m just jaded from my teenage employment years but I always thought that they link always reminded me of link.

Since we are talking about the NFL Unis:

(1) Giving the Eagles a pass since it is a replica of their 1930’s uniform. If that were their “real” uniforms I would ranked them right up there with the Bengals as the ugliest…especially the color scheme.

(2) Love the Redskins throwbacks (and, no, I am not a Redskins fan)

(3) Hate the Pats and Belicheat…but I love their uniforms. Not big on the way the Patriot is on the helmet, but still think they have a great uniform. Even the silver is ok.

New sweaters do their job, but designers didn’t think about side effects. link

I like the Redskin’s throwbacks quite a bit. However, every time I saw highlights I thought they were the Packers.

I didn’t think the Eagles looked good at all. The socks were good but that was about it. I think they would have looked better if the jerseys were mostly blue which may not be historically accurate.

I love the Redskins’ throwbacks. Aside from sticking with the dark helmet, I would make the throwbacks their primary uni.

A couple of things I noticed this weekend watching sports (sorry if these were posted over the weekend, I did a quick search and didn’t see them):

Oklahoma wears white shoes but there kicker wears one black shoe, weird thing is its on his non-kicking foot: link

And this one I couldn’t get a picture of but if anyone has mlb.tv and can get a screen grab it was in the 7th inning of Saturday’s game vs Tampa Bay. On Mike Timlin’s sleeve were the Majestic logo is the piping on the bottom of his sleeve actually went over the logo. I looked for pictures and he didn’t have the problem before so maybe it was a one time thing.

More NFL Uni quick thoughts:

Redskins throwbacks: Kind of a dilemma, because up close they are beautiful. From far away they look too much like the Green Bay unis (even with the Vince Lom. story behind it). As a throwback or fullly used alternate jersey though, it’s a good choice.

Eagles throwbacks: ditto the previous remarks of different time, different era.

Rams: White pants look sharp with the blue jersey

Finally in baseball, it was disappointing to see the Nats close out their final RFK game wearing their red alts. instead of their normal whites. With it being billed a such a “formal” (maybe that word’s too strong) occasion, wear the traditional home gear.

Speaking of silver, the NZ All-Blacks had their silver jerseys this weekend. Not that bad of jerseys in themselves…but man…their the all-blacks…their supposed to be all black

Most of all it was virtually impossible to distinguish them from their opponents during the game. both jerseys used gray and navy/black prominently and both teams wore dark shorts and socks.

focussing more on the merriman/jackson nike football commercial. you guys are missing the commercials biggest flaw.
steven jackson scores a touchdown in it…

its the only touchdown that fantasy owners who took him 2nd overall this year have gotten to see him score…

Sorry about mentioning something Paul covers. I saw it and went straight to the comments without reading. Shame on me.

In regards to the tape on the socks, I have a few theories. It could be habbit, some players like their equipment very secure, not just held on by some streatch socks, or the socks aren’t doing the job they’re intended to.

[quote comment=”146923″][quote comment=”146919″][quote comment=”146905″]On a seperate note (not really uni related). I was praying in temple on Saturday (for Yom Kippur) and couldn’t even escape visions of UniWatch while there.

For those of you who don’t know it is custom to wear comfortable shoes during Yom Kippur due to the walking to temple and the many hours on your feet while there. So I’m in the middle of temple and all day I’m seeing grown men in $1k suits with there Nike sneakers on. The swoosh followed me into temple!!! Is nothing sacred?[/quote]

It may be that you are supposed to walk to temple (as you are for Shabbat as well), but one of the reasons to wear athletic shoes is because you are not supposed to wear leather shoes:

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Five prohibitions are traditionally observed, as detailed in the Jewish oral tradition (Mishnah tractate Yoma 8:1):

1. Eating and drinking
2. Wearing leather shoes
3. Bathing/washing
4. Anointing oneself with perfumes or lotion
5. Marital relations[/quote]

I wasn’t really looking to get into all of it, but yes you are correct. I was merely noting that even in temple I couldn’t escape the swoosh.[/quote]
To follow up on that, you had it lucky if all you saw was the swoosh. If I see one more pair of crocs, especially on a man, I will lose my friggin mind. But I couldn’t help but laugh at the combo of expensive suit/cheap shoes.

[quote comment=”146929″][quote comment=”146923″][quote comment=”146919″][quote comment=”146905″]On a seperate note (not really uni related). I was praying in temple on Saturday (for Yom Kippur) and couldn’t even escape visions of UniWatch while there.

For those of you who don’t know it is custom to wear comfortable shoes during Yom Kippur due to the walking to temple and the many hours on your feet while there. So I’m in the middle of temple and all day I’m seeing grown men in $1k suits with there Nike sneakers on. The swoosh followed me into temple!!! Is nothing sacred?[/quote]

It may be that you are supposed to walk to temple (as you are for Shabbat as well), but one of the reasons to wear athletic shoes is because you are not supposed to wear leather shoes:

link

Five prohibitions are traditionally observed, as detailed in the Jewish oral tradition (Mishnah tractate Yoma 8:1):

1. Eating and drinking
2. Wearing leather shoes
3. Bathing/washing
4. Anointing oneself with perfumes or lotion
5. Marital relations[/quote]

I wasn’t really looking to get into all of it, but yes you are correct. I was merely noting that even in temple I couldn’t escape the swoosh.[/quote]
To follow up on that, you had it lucky if all you saw was the swoosh. If I see one more pair of crocs, especially on a man, I will lose my friggin mind. But I couldn’t help but laugh at the combo of expensive suit/cheap shoes.[/quote]

Our rabbi actually was encouraging people to wear crocs “of any color” because it fit all of the requirements. Didn’t bother me a bit, neither did the swoosh, it just reminded me of uniwatch.

I hope everyone had an easy fast.

[quote comment=”146930″]I think the Eagles throwbacks (while a good color combination) proves that in football, you just can’t go back to some random uniform in history and that it’ll work.

Seems like the better football throwbacks are those that reflect uniforms of the 60’s and 70’s. Which when you think about it, is more of the NFL’s (and AFL’s) ‘Golden Age’.

Baseball can go deeper to the 30’s and 40’s before they start to look ridiculous, because that’s generally the MLB ‘Golden Age’.[/quote]

I think that is pretty accurate and mostly because of the equipment being used now versus then. In baseball, with the exception of the fabric the uniforms are pretty much the same and have to deal with the same t-shirts and underwear. Whereas in the NFL, the pads are bigger, the helmets are plastic (not leather) and the material is much much different. So even if the scheme is similar (as the eagles were) the effect could be completely different than the past.

[quote comment=”146922″]Speaking of silver, the NZ All-Blacks had their silver jerseys this weekend. Not that bad of jerseys in themselves…but man…their the all-blacks…their supposed to be all black

Most of all it was virtually impossible to distinguish them from their opponents during the game. both jerseys used gray and navy/black prominently and both teams wore dark shorts and socks.[/quote]
I didn’t see the match but from the pics thats one of the first things i noticed. musta been a total bitch, especially with rugby being a game of such wildness

[quote comment=”146917″]A couple of things I noticed this weekend watching sports (sorry if these were posted over the weekend, I did a quick search and didn’t see them):

Oklahoma wears white shoes but there kicker wears one black shoe, weird thing is its on his non-kicking foot: link
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Wierder, those are the same shoe, just different color schemes.

In that Auxerre soccer game with the borrowed uniforms, did those alternates have player names on them? Were guys running around the pitch with the same names as their opponents?

And if they only had numbers, how did they decide who got what number? Surely the sizes wouldn’t match up. Was it just arbitrary?

Shaun Alexander had American flags on both elbow pads. Never noticed it before, but it could be normal…

[quote comment=”146928″][quote comment=”146911″]I thought the Skins throwbacks looked just like the Packers road uniform (with red instead of green of course)[/quote]

Well, that was the general idea….[/quote]

Yes, Lombardi actually designed those when he came to the Skins (at least that is what Buck and Aikmen were saying).

Visanthe Shiancoe of the Vikes took a shot to the coconut yesterday that peeled part the horn off the side of his helmet, but I can’t seem to find a pic of it.

Although the color scheme of the Eagles was good, I agree that the Sateen sheen thing made it look bad. I like that the cheerleaders and some of the sideline gear (most notably the hats) and the field were in the old scheme. athe team made a full concerted effort to commemorate 75 years of Eagles football. The Redskins cheerleaders and staff didn’t appear to have throwback stuff on, though.

It looks to me like a number 88 on Marvin’s chinstrap, which makes a lot more sense.

Paul raised an interesting point this morning about the Eagles throwbacks looking better on a caucasian player versus a black player.

My question is: do you think that was by design as Paul alludes to or just coincidence? I can’t imagine that manufactureres then or now would take that into their thought pattern when designing a new uni/color scheme. Anyone out there who can confirm or deny this?

What is wrong with the way the Patriots where the “Patriot” on their helmet?

I don’t know what the proper name is, I just don’t like the way there is a sort of “tail” after the Patriots head. For my tastes, it is just an odd look.

[quote comment=”146970″]The inconsistent typography on the Rangers’ jerseys probably has something to do with the fact that they use screen printed names on their preseason uniforms. If they are still doing this perhaps they just have a habit of getting careless when screening on the names since the uniforms are only for preseason anyway. I am not sure if they are still doing this with the new RBK jerseys but I know that they did this in the past and then switched to sewn on names once the season started.[/quote]

Could it have something to do with the players who are vetrans vs those that are tring out. My guess would be that the equipment guy wouldn’t want to vertically arch the names of some guys who are going to get cut in a couple weeks.

[quote comment=”146968″]There was an interesting note about a practical joke being played on Norris Hopper of the Reds yesterday. His baggy pants were hidden by teammates and replaced with a tight pair, which he wore for the first few innings of the game.

Here is the link. I’ll try to find a photo.

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I can’t find any photos. Dang it. And I already deleted the game from my Tivo too.

[quote comment=”146917″]A couple of things I noticed this weekend watching sports (sorry if these were posted over the weekend, I did a quick search and didn’t see them):

Oklahoma wears white shoes but there kicker wears one black shoe, weird thing is its on his non-kicking foot: link

And this one I couldn’t get a picture of but if anyone has mlb.tv and can get a screen grab it was in the 7th inning of Saturday’s game vs Tampa Bay. On Mike Timlin’s sleeve were the Majestic logo is the piping on the bottom of his sleeve actually went over the logo. I looked for pictures and he didn’t have the problem before so maybe it was a one time thing.[/quote]

I think I remember seeing something like that during a Yankees-Sox series with Timlin, the majestic logo was underneath the red piping on his sleeve, just about as far down on the bottom of the sleeve as you can go. There may not be a screen grab of it yet, but at least you have a witness…

The Redskins throwbacks are great. Please, no more burgundy pants. ever. ..reminds me of bad 70s leisure suits. I agree w/ previous post that these throwbacks, but w/ the dark helmets, should be the primary uniform.

Pats silver alts suck. look bad on TV. ..and I am a Pats fan. Why not red? I heard Bob Kraft doesn’t like the team in red, as he changed their primary color to blue when he took ownership. Can anyone confirm?

Check out the link on Newport Harbor High. I caught their game on FSN Friday and I thought these were fantastic (although I can’t decide whether the flag should be flipped on the right side of the helmet).

The link goes to a gallery page and when you click a gallery it has an embedded Flash application to view the photos.

I am stunned by how horrible the shirttail of the NY Rangers jersey looks with that white strip. Completely unnecessary.

I read somewhere that there is paranoia developing because of the new Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays unis. Since they removed the region name from the jersey, they’re worried that they could be in the beginning steps of relocating. Similar to what the North Stars did before heading to Dallas.
Questions for you guys:
1. Do you think people should actually be worried about this?
2. Where would they move to? Portland? Vegas? Virginia? ..Orlando?
3. Anyone know what kind of lease they have with Tropicana Field?

The Rangers jerseys just look like the arch the names if they are too long to go straight across. Weird, but that seems to be what is happening in the picture.

Now with Uni-Mania sweeping the nation, it looks like link into one of their columns.

“Ugly uni alert: Apparently, there will be a weekly mention in this space of attire. Here’s hoping the references to hideous jerseys are kept to a minimum.”

I don’t think Paul has much to fear here.

Surprised a footballer would wear Nike soccer cleats. There was a spate of high-profile injuries for guys wearing new Nike cleats last year (Rooney, C. Ronaldo). I’d imagine that an NFL puts even more stress on his feet, with greater likelihood of contact with another player…

Check out Sevilla’s uniform for their Saturday match at Barca (not you, Minna):

link

[quote comment=”147004″]I read somewhere that there is paranoia developing because of the new Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays unis. Since they removed the region name from the jersey, they’re worried that they could be in the beginning steps of relocating. [/quote]

The Devil Rays link still contain the words Tampa Bay.

Scott Player sporting the single bar for the Browns…classic… Like Hulk Hogan circa 1960’s

The Devil Rays road uniforms still contain the words Tampa Bay.

That is this year’s jersey. Next year “Rays” will be on the front of both the home and away jersey.

Regarding the disappearing A, maybe the Red Wings have been vindicated in the issue of what happens when you sew over the seam. Or maybe they just didn’t like the look (they use a thin typeface, one layer A & C. Might have just looked weird with the kink caused by the seam in the middle).

[quote comment=”146899″]I didn’t see what you are referring to, but this is probably the Virginia Tech memorial stripe that all of the ACC schools are wearing this year.

Most are wearing it on the front of their jerseys, but perhaps UNC has it on the back? Seems like an odd location for it, but it is possible.

All ACC teams are wearing them as a tribute to the VaTech massacre victims.

Thanks.

I am surprised they did not just use the ribbon with the Va Tech colors like we have seen on a number of occasions.

And yes…the placement is very odd.[/quote]

The equipment managers in the ACC received a memo from the ACC Home office stating that we would honor the victims of the Virginia Tech tragedy. We would do this by placing black patches on Jerseys. The patches are to be placed on the jerseys of the following sports:
Men’s and Women’s Basketball
Field Hockey
Football
Men’s and Women’s Lacrosse
Men’s and Women’s Soccer
Softball
Volleyball

It was also suggested that the Head coach and Equipment manager decide between the following locations for each patch:
Location 1- Left Sleeve
Location 2- Right Sleeve
Location 3- Left Chest
Location 4- Right Chest
Location 5- Back Neck of Jersey

As for the Virginia Tech Colors, the was done in the Spring immediately after the shootings. At Maryland we were given helmet stickers in ribbon form in the colors of Virginia Tech.They were distributed to all of the athletes as well as given to the athletes to give out on Campus.

The only thing better would be if Scott Player were permitted to go maskless, much like Don Cockroft (the old Browns punter/kicker who was the last maskless player, I believe).

That photo of Player getting nailed reminds me of a Redskins-Cowboys game in 2002 (it may have been Thanksgiving), the year the Skins wore the spear helmets. Something went awry, and Bryan Barker, the Washington punter, got hit. Next thing you know, the camera zooms in on him, and he has a broken nose. And Barker didn’t even have a single bar(ker), so I’m always a bit concerned about Player’s safety.

RE: the new NHL socks

Tape might not be necessary for most of the players, but some of them are probably using it to keep their shinguards in place rather than having straps under the socks (from experience I can say that some shinguard straps are horribly uncomfortable when they dig into the back of your knee).

While on the subject of uni colors and skin color. I have a friend that’s in her last year of clothing design school. She mentioned recently that they have mannequins of every possible skin-tone just in case a color combo might look great one color and terrible on another. She said that she has has to start over with different fabrics before for that reason. I’m sure with the actual(non-alternate or throwback) jerseys, someone designing them must take that into account. Especially with jersey sales being so lucrative. But then again I’m sure some old coot owner might give a thumbs down to common sense like that.

[quote comment=”147051″][quote comment=”147032″]Scott Player sporting the single bar for the Browns…classic… Like Hulk Hogan circa 1960’s[/quote]

link
link[/quote]
Are facemasks suppose to be hinged like that? Ouch, babe.

[quote comment=”147004″]I read somewhere that there is paranoia developing because of the new Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays unis. Since they removed the region name from the jersey, they’re worried that they could be in the beginning steps of relocating. Similar to what the North Stars did before heading to Dallas.
Questions for you guys:
1. Do you think people should actually be worried about this?
2. Where would they move to? Portland? Vegas? Virginia? ..Orlando?
3. Anyone know what kind of lease they have with Tropicana Field?[/quote]

I don’t think this is a parallel to the Minnesota North Stars changing their name to the Minnesota Stars.

The North Stars invoked imagery of Minnesota and the northern climate. Dropping the Devil in Devil Rays doesn’t seem to have the same connotation.

Maybe if they had dropped the “Rays” it could cause some concern as now the team would be the Tampa Bay Devils, and no longer have a mascot linked to water.

[quote comment=”146970″]The inconsistent typography on the Rangers’ jerseys probably has something to do with the fact that they use screen printed names on their preseason uniforms. If they are still doing this perhaps they just have a habit of getting careless when screening on the names since the uniforms are only for preseason anyway. I am not sure if they are still doing this with the new RBK jerseys but I know that they did this in the past and then switched to sewn on names once the season started.[/quote]
I agree. I’ve noticed this in some Sports Illustrated issues a few years back, yet they thankfully go sewn for the regular season. Sounds a lot like the Red Wings and their horrible tease to go to straight name plates and that link.

Even worse, they use the link on customizable posters.

[quote comment=”147039″][quote comment=”146988″]Check out the link on Newport Harbor High. I caught their game on FSN Friday and I thought these were fantastic (although I can’t decide whether the flag should be flipped on the right side of the helmet).

The link goes to a gallery page and when you click a gallery it has an embedded Flash application to view the photos.[/quote]

While those helmets do look good, they shouldn’t even exist.

There was discussion on here last week (I think) about the US flag appearing on sports uniforms. Federal law is pretty clear about it….

link[/quote]

Sorry thats not a law, the flag code has no criminal or civil penalties for ignoring it. Its just a guide as to what the writers of the code considered correct. you can wipe your ass with the flag and the flag code can’t stop you.

[quote comment=”146976″][quote comment=”146970″]The inconsistent typography on the Rangers’ jerseys probably has something to do with the fact that they use screen printed names on their preseason uniforms. If they are still doing this perhaps they just have a habit of getting careless when screening on the names since the uniforms are only for preseason anyway. I am not sure if they are still doing this with the new RBK jerseys but I know that they did this in the past and then switched to sewn on names once the season started.[/quote]

Could it have something to do with the players who are vetrans vs those that are tring out. My guess would be that the equipment guy wouldn’t want to vertically arch the names of some guys who are going to get cut in a couple weeks.[/quote]
Bill is correct, through last year the Rangers have used screened on nameplates for years during the preseason. I assumed they would stick with this but don’t know the practicality of doing it on the new Edge shirts. Also, the names are always vertically arched, I don’t know why Avery’s isn’t in that shot. Its not like he was a recent pickup. And even with recent pickups, I’ve always seen them follow the same “template.”

I think the Rousson jersey linked elsewhere was a Binghamton Rangers jersey with the screened on #s. Also, the tails look ridiculous.

A couple of more observations from the Nike Merriman/Jackson commercial (of which I’m sure someone has already mentioned):

(1) The Vikings are wearing white cleats instead of their usual black

(2) The Steelers are wearing black cleats instead of their usual white

Also, Paul made mention of Clinton Portis’ white cleats. Just the reverse for the Dolphins’ Chris Chambers; in yesterday’s game he wore a pair of cleats that have a huge navy-blue “highlight”, kind of like the reverse of Portis’ design (white on top/tongue of the shoe, blue on the bottom); it almost looked like he was wearing black cleats while the rest of the team had white.

Additionally, in last week’s Giants’ report Paul stated that the NFL has mandated that teams go with one accent color on their shoes this year: apparently the Dolphins did not get the memo because 98% of the team went with the usual white/orange cleats, but Chambers and one other player (whose name skips me right now)went with white/navy-blue…..

Did anyone else see Scott Player on the Browns with his one bar moveable facemask…. he puts the one bar like a chinstrap when punting, then puts it back up to his face to go make the tackle

[quote comment=”147066″][quote comment=”147039″][quote comment=”146988″]Check out the link on Newport Harbor High. I caught their game on FSN Friday and I thought these were fantastic (although I can’t decide whether the flag should be flipped on the right side of the helmet).

The link goes to a gallery page and when you click a gallery it has an embedded Flash application to view the photos.[/quote]

While those helmets do look good, they shouldn’t even exist.

There was discussion on here last week (I think) about the US flag appearing on sports uniforms. Federal law is pretty clear about it….

link[/quote]

Sorry thats not a law, the flag code has no criminal or civil penalties for ignoring it. Its just a guide as to what the writers of the code considered correct. you can wipe your ass with the flag and the flag code can’t stop you.[/quote]

Regardless of whether a team should have the flag on a helmet or not, the flag on the right should definitely be reversed. From Army.com: The regulation states that when authorized for application to the proper uniform the American flag patch is to be worn, right or left shoulder, so that “the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward. The appropriate replica for the right shoulder sleeve is identified as the ‘reverse side flag’.”

On Saturday, looks like Scott Gomez’s “A” fell off against the Flyers:

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I noticed in one of those nike commercials that Merriamn sacks a New Englnd QB wearing #4 so maybe Nike just said “f it”

Rick V., Washington may have had the colors first, but that look just reminds me of link. It’s not just the colors–it’s the stripes, too, the overall look. As I said last night, I hate clowns. Plus, I am not a big fan of yellow (sorry, Paul).

Mike, I am just pretending the link NEVER HAPPENED.

Bring Back the link!

As for pastels, I don’t think they look good on anyone, but they are definitely better on blonds than brunettes.

link? What’s the point?

[quote comment=”147079″]The Patriot’s Silver alts – Whats the point?
They look like white jerseys in need of bleach.
Kudos to Bob Kraft for not having the ghetto-inspired/Foot Locker-concocted obligitary Black alt jersey !!!

Having a red alternate is just as cliche and common place as having a black alternate, which I dispute is “ghetto-inspired”. I don’t feel like looking up photos but check out how many teams have had red alternates in the past few years. Sixers, Nets, Nationals, Diamondbacks, Trailblazers, Giants, Red Sox, Reds, Phillies… I could go on but I think you get the point. I think the silver is at least original at least. I have never been a huge fan of the Patriots uniforms in general but I think the silver looks better than the blue.

I don’t recall the Phillies having a red alternate jersey. They do have red BP jerseys though, but I’ve never seen them worn during a regular season game.[/quote]

I thought I might have imagined that one. But it doesn’t really take away from the fact that there are a ton of red alternates out there.

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I actually like those Nike commercials, uniform number problems be damned.

A few thoughts from this weekend…….
First off, the Badgers were back in their white pants for their night game vs Iowa and looked great. I was there and have seen the all red unis in person as will and it woulda looked wierd to be in all red under the lights at Camp Randall. Good look for Bucky and a nice win vs the Hawks!! Second, I love the Lambeau Field Patch the Packers are wearing on their home jerseys…and i love the stripes in the endzone as well!! The Redskins throwbacks look too much like the Packers uni’s with the yellow (but wern’t they from the Lombardi era in DC??) and that pic of Scott Player on the Browns is simply a classic.

I was wondering over the weekend why there are so many colleges that use a simple Red/White color scheme (or a variation of red) but so few teams use a Blue/White color scheme. Penn State and BYU are the only major programs I could think of off hand, but there’s probably a few more. Meanwhile, in the Red/White camp there is Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Rutgers & Mississippi St.

Anyone have any reason for this or insight into how schools originally came up with their colors?

[quote comment=”147110″]I was wondering over the weekend why there are so many colleges that use a simple Red/White color scheme (or a variation of red) but so few teams use a Blue/White color scheme. Penn State and BYU are the only major programs I could think of off hand, but there’s probably a few more. Meanwhile, in the Red/White camp there is Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Rutgers & Mississippi St.

Anyone have any reason for this or insight into how schools originally came up with their colors?[/quote]
Quoting myself, I guess Kentucky should be considered a major program :^}

The quote actually looked like this…hopefully this works.

Good info here about the Redskins’ throwbacks, which they’ll be wearing this weekend while pounding the living shit out of playing the Giants.

If it works, wear it.

No one has noted that for the last 2 weeks, teams wearing yellow helmets have been dominating the NFL.

Pittsburg (throwback)
Philiadelphia (throwback)
Green Bay (usual)

Only Washington failed to make it a clean yellow sweep.

So maybe Donovan McNabb’s miraculous turnaround is because he can see his receivers better. They’re sure hard to miss now.

The one bar mask worn by Scott Player / Browns has two screws on each side that hold it into place. If only the screw which has the chin strap snap is put in place the bar with swivel up or down. Also, I seem to remember a discussion about Clinton Portis not wearing socks (just leg warmers) in his shoes and it seems like he is still doing it. Finally, I am not sure but a lot of the the fabric from the forties, fifties and sixties was a shiny type material called durene but I don’t know if this would have been the case with the Eagles throwbacks.

Are link becoming the norm in the NFL? All three guys in this shot are wearing biker shorts instead of pants.

No mention of the texans rocking all navy unitards, clearly Paul must be in denial…

[quote comment=”147136″]No mention of the texans rocking all navy unitards, clearly Paul must be in denial…[/quote]

Paul pointed out in the preseason that the Texans are one of the few teams in the NFL (along with the Bengals) who post on their team website what uniform jerseys they’ll be wearing for each game this season. Unfortunately the team does not specify ahead of time what color pants they’re going to wear.

I think the Texans went with the all blue look this time because they wore the same combination last December during their Christmas Eve 27-24 win over the Colts. That is pure speculation on my part, but it seems logical.

[quote comment=”147110″]I was wondering over the weekend why there are so many colleges that use a simple Red/White color scheme (or a variation of red) but so few teams use a Blue/White color scheme. Penn State and BYU are the only major programs I could think of off hand, but there’s probably a few more. Meanwhile, in the Red/White camp there is Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Rutgers & Mississippi St.

Anyone have any reason for this or insight into how schools originally came up with their colors?[/quote]
For whatever reason, many “blue” schools (Michigan, Cal, Notre Dame, and so on) seem to use gold/yellow as their “secondary” color. Others (Kansas and Ole Miss come to mind) use a blue/white/red scheme… the Rebels even have sets of red football jerseys and blue football jerseys.

School “colors” were usually (depending upon the age of the school) selected ‘way “back in the day” (as in the late 19th-century) by a vote of the student body.

And referring to Mississippi State’s unis as “red” could get thee in serious trouble in Starkville and environs… those uniforms are Maroon, suh!

Me? I wear the Black and Old Gold proudly as a “son of Ol’ Mizzou”! (grin)

[quote comment=”147066″][quote comment=”147039″][quote comment=”146988″]Check out the link on Newport Harbor High. I caught their game on FSN Friday and I thought these were fantastic (although I can’t decide whether the flag should be flipped on the right side of the helmet).

The link goes to a gallery page and when you click a gallery it has an embedded Flash application to view the photos.[/quote]

While those helmets do look good, they shouldn’t even exist.

There was discussion on here last week (I think) about the US flag appearing on sports uniforms. Federal law is pretty clear about it….

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Sorry thats not a law, the flag code has no criminal or civil penalties for ignoring it. Its just a guide as to what the writers of the code considered correct. you can wipe your ass with the flag and the flag code can’t stop you.[/quote]

Sorry Joe, but it is a law.

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The Office of the Law Revision Counsel prepares and publishes the United States Code, which is a consolidation and codification by subject matter of the general and permanent laws of the United States.

Breaking that law may not carry any form of penalty, but it is law just the same.

Here’s what 4 USC Sec. 8, paragraph (j) says…

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.

The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

LSU has unveiled the special uniforms they are going to wear against Tulane this Saturday. You can get some good views here.

I personally like the white helmets and I LOVE the eye of the tiger patch on the pants. My only complaint is the 1/3 stripe on the shoulders.I think the pelican patch should be on the front of the jersey like the “SEC 75th” patch. But all in all, I think the new set will look good for one game.

I hate that, like somehow McDonalds has a monopoly on the colors red and yellow. I’m fairly certain the ’skins had those colors before MickyD’s. They look classy together and it looks even better when the yellow is more prominent, like with those throwbacks. I’m a Giants fan and I can say I love those uni’s.

Some colors just get attached to a brand or event and there’s no getting away from it.

Devils- Early ’90s’ green & red. Merry Christmas!
Flyers- Black & orange. Trick or Treat!
Atl Hawks- Red & Yellow. Where’s the Beef Wendy?

It’s just a pop cultural thing that is nearly impossible to reverse. I dislike the Wild colors for just that red and green reason.

[quote comment=”147158″][quote comment=”147123″]Are there any non-retired sweater numbers that are off limits these days?[/quote]

I believe link is off-limits in Philly. No one’s worn 4 in Edmonton since Lowe retired, though that’s likely a formality which will soon be made official.[/quote]

No one has worn #8 on the mets since Gary Carter.

Big 12/Mizzou fans:

There were rumors circulating last year that MU was going to come out wearing all-gold against someone. (I forget, but it was the annual “Gold Rush” game.) I have a buddy on the team that said the team was fitted for new uniforms for that game, but they just never came to fruition.

With the Nebraska game now on ESPN with a national audience, has anyone heard of the “All-Gold” making an appearance?

Can anyone do a mock up?

Thanks.

[quote comment=”147158″][quote comment=”147123″]Are there any non-retired sweater numbers that are off limits these days?[/quote]

I believe link is off-limits in Philly. No one’s worn 4 in Edmonton since Lowe retired, though that’s likely a formality which will soon be made official.[/quote]

Correct — not retired but off limits in perpetuity for Pelle. In fact, 31 is link, but he wears 30 with the link.

And I guess you can count all the Maple Leafs’ “Honoured Numbers,” as they don’t officially retire jersey numbers.

I am starting to wonder just how many jerseys there are for football players to wear. There appear to be quite a few depending on how they want their sleeves to wrap around their pads and arms. You can really notice it on the chad johnson picture with him wearing the white chinstrap. The uniforms look totally different.

[quote comment=”147142″][quote comment=”147136″]No mention of the texans rocking all navy unitards, clearly Paul must be in denial…[/quote]

Paul pointed out in the preseason that the Texans are one of the few teams in the NFL (along with the Bengals) who post on their team website what uniform jerseys they’ll be wearing for each game this season. Unfortunately the team does not specify ahead of time what color pants they’re going to wear.

I think the Texans went with the all blue look this time because they wore the same combination last December during their Christmas Eve 27-24 win over the Colts. That is pure speculation on my part, but it seems logical.[/quote]

I thought about that too, but let me throw this out there. Do the stripes on the pants neglect the uni-tard effect? Take the Saints, Ravens, Etc, no striping on the pants which accentuates the uni-tard effect. I will now go to rehab for uni-watch abusers – the new UA -Uniholics Anonymous.

[quote comment=”147123″]On a hockey note, is Eric Lindros’ #88 no longer considered one of the NHL’s “untouchable” numbers (like Gretzky’s 99 was before it was retired, Mario’s 66 or Jagr’s 68)? [/quote]

Jagrs 68 was already worn by someone else. Ziggy Palffy. I doubt you’ll see too many other 68s, though. It’s not a very glamourous number with cache.

Other than Mario’s 66, I don’t think there’s a number with a league wide “hands off” sign. And I don’t think the world would stop spinning if someone donned the double 6.

SB[/quote]

Yes, Palffy wore 68 from 93-96. Does anyone know why he switched to #16? Brian Mullen stopped wearing 16 for the Isles in 93…

As far as I know, Gino Odjick of the Canucks was the only player to wear 66 since Mario, when he donned 66 as a rookie, but he was asked to switch numbers.

HAHAHA… not all Jamaicans or African are black. Those are nationalities, not races.

And anyway, those unis look bad on any and every skin color. Isn’t that what these posts are supposed to be about anyway??

[quote comment=”147094″]
I don’t recall the Phillies having a red alternate jersey. They do have red BP jerseys though, but I’ve never seen them worn during a regular season game.[/quote]
They wore their batting practice jersey in 1992 for the second game of a DH in San Diego.

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Sorry for the blurry shot.

Alright, so last night during the Cowboys Bears game I was looking at the differences in sleeves for running backs, wide receivers, and offensive/defensive line. I was just looking for length differences but saw big differences in stripes on the Cowboys uniforms.

It seems to me that all link, link or link (bad picture but you can see it), only have 1 stripe while all the other players have 2.

At first I thought this was probably just a sleeve length problem, not being able to fit the 2 stripes on the shortened sleeve. But if they can fit 2 stripes on sleeves like link and link they should be able to fit it on a lineman’s jersey.

Is this something that is common to the Cowboys and I just didn’t know about? Is it like Trent Green having the sleeve stripes on his uniform and no other Dolphin on his? Are down lineman jersey really that much smaller and an outside lineback pass rush specialist like Damarcus Ware?

[quote comment=”147185″]HAHAHA… not all Jamaicans or African are black. Those are nationalities, not races.

And anyway, those unis look bad on any and every skin color. Isn’t that what these posts are supposed to be about anyway??[/quote]

Oh, I’m just goofing around. I’m a medical editor/writer, and one of our rules is to use “black” instead of “African American” because obviously not all black people are of the same nationality.

[quote comment=”147184″]Tonight’s Mets infield is an odd one.

1 Castillo 2B
3 Easley 1B
5 Wright 3B
7 Reyes SS
9 DiFelice C[/quote]

Shouldn’t that be 4, 3, 5, 6 and 2???

What does the green dot on the back of the helmets in the NFL mean?

[quote comment=”147104″]A few thoughts from this weekend…….
First off, the Badgers were back in their white pants for their night game vs Iowa and looked great. I was there and have seen the all red unis in person as will and it woulda looked wierd to be in all red under the lights at Camp Randall. Good look for Bucky and a nice win vs the Hawks!! .[/quote]

The red with the white pants looked SOOOOO much classier than the all red. Hopefully they keep the classic look going and bury the all red.

Whoever posted that pic of Ronald McDonald was classic. I always think the Chiefs uniforms look too much like ketchup and mustard too.

[quote comment=”147200″][quote comment=”147184″]Tonight’s Mets infield is an odd one.

1 Castillo 2B
3 Easley 1B
5 Wright 3B
7 Reyes SS
9 DiFelice C[/quote]

Shouldn’t that be 4, 3, 5, 6 and 2???[/quote]

Those are their uni numbers , what are you talking about?

[quote comment=”147206″][quote comment=”147200″][quote comment=”147184″]Tonight’s Mets infield is an odd one.

1 Castillo 2B
3 Easley 1B
5 Wright 3B
7 Reyes SS
9 DiFelice C[/quote]

Shouldn’t that be 4, 3, 5, 6 and 2???[/quote]

Those are their uni numbers , what are you talking about?[/quote]

Forget it, I saw the post above. Dumb Shaftman, dumb.

[quote comment=”147205″][quote comment=”147200″][quote comment=”147184″]Tonight’s Mets infield is an odd one.

1 Castillo 2B
3 Easley 1B
5 Wright 3B
7 Reyes SS
9 DiFelice C[/quote]

Shouldn’t that be 4, 3, 5, 6 and 2???[/quote]

That’s uniform numbers not position numbers[/quote]

Yup, I know they’re uni numbers (especially Reyes’), was just trying to introduce another variation.

I don’t recall the Phillies having a red alternate jersey. They do have red BP jerseys though, but I’ve never seen them worn during a regular season game.

Sorry for the blurry shot.

According to the Baseball Almanac.com, the Phillies and Padres did not play any doubleheaders in 1992. I doubt that those red alts were ever worn in a regular season game. Probably just spring training.

Don’t quote me on this but the Nike commercials do not have the reebok vector hidden because the vector is partially owned by the NFL. My guess would be if you’re going to give permission to a company to use your jerseys they must be exactly as they appear.

What? The NFL owns reebok? Well sort of. Reebok was in a whole lotta trouble a while back and then they got the NBA, NFL and NHL contracts. Now part of what made the deals really sweet for the pro-leagues was the fact that reebok offered the leagues a 5% stake in their company on top of the deal to produce the products for the leagues (so basically they collect twice). I know some of those is not exat information but I attended a presentation when a recent sports store opened here where I live and they had a nike rep discuss how and why Nike wouldn’t be seen in the pro-leagues as a uniform supplier.

[quote comment=”147151″]LSU has unveiled the special uniforms they are going to wear against Tulane this Saturday. You can get some good views here.[/quote]

Pelican kind of looks like the Caps new “W” eagle….

I’m surprised there’s no positive feedback for the Philly throwbacks. I can see where the shiny material was a bit of an issue, but it was a good and honest effort. No ’30s era uniform is really going to work; there were sleeves back then, leather helmets, no facemasks, smaller pads, and the uniforms were probably made out of wool or something. I think Philly made a risky and good effort.

It only seems the universally positive feedback was about Philly’s throwback socks. I’m sorry, but I don’t hold the same esteem for socks as most others on this site. My view is that socks ought to produce symmetry with the rest of the uniform. If a team (like the Eagles’ real uniform) have no stripes on their “sleeves”, then there should be no stripes on the socks. If they do (like, say, the Steelers), then the socks should have the same stripe pattern as the sleeves. I personally don’t hold onto the idea that striped socks are categorically better than non-striped socks, or that, for example, baseball stirrups (while better looking than no stirrups) are high fashion and proper-fitting full length pants are to be avoided. All I really care about is that the uniform fits and doesn’t look stupid.
Just my thoughts, hope all is well.

[quote comment=”147231″][quote comment=”147088″]The redwings use a different font during the preseason as well. They’ve done this for atleast ten year, probably much longer.

In other hockey news: I don’t like the linkon their classic looking hockey gloves[/quote]

Anyone else notice that the Rangers pants still have the old NHL orange and black logo on them?[/quote]

I know they aren’t pants, BTW…hockey pants are Cooperalls, those are breezers, but for those who aren’t hockey fans, I just wanted to make sure you knew what I was talking about…

[quote comment=”147177″][quote comment=”147142″][quote comment=”147136″]No mention of the texans rocking all navy unitards, clearly Paul must be in denial…[/quote]

Paul pointed out in the preseason that the Texans are one of the few teams in the NFL (along with the Bengals) who post on their team website what uniform jerseys they’ll be wearing for each game this season. Unfortunately the team does not specify ahead of time what color pants they’re going to wear.

I think the Texans went with the all blue look this time because they wore the same combination last December during their Christmas Eve 27-24 win over the Colts. That is pure speculation on my part, but it seems logical.[/quote]

I thought about that too, but let me throw this out there. Do the stripes on the pants neglect the uni-tard effect? Take the Saints, Ravens, Etc, no striping on the pants which accentuates the uni-tard effect. I will now go to rehab for uni-watch abusers – the new UA -Uniholics Anonymous.[/quote]

Only slightly. In football, solid colors just doesn’t look very good to me. The crazy thing is that it looks great in other sports (like baseball, basketball, and soccer). The Saints all black look to me is just nauseating, especially given how good the gold pants with black stripe looked. I also kind of wish they had kept the Louisiana patch somewhere ont he uniform (it was on the shoulder last year, in years before it as on the pants, at the top of the striping near the hip).

[quote comment=”147170″][quote comment=”147158″][quote comment=”147123″]Are there any non-retired sweater numbers that are off limits these days?[/quote]

I believe link is off-limits in Philly. No one’s worn 4 in Edmonton since Lowe retired, though that’s likely a formality which will soon be made official.[/quote]

Correct — not retired but off limits in perpetuity for Pelle. In fact, 31 is link, but he wears 30 with the link.

And I guess you can count all the Maple Leafs’ “Honoured Numbers,” as they don’t officially retire jersey numbers.[/quote]

Which really begs the question – why won’t the Flyers retire it? Is it too late (emotionally) to do so?

Problem with that is that the leather helmets were painted in the colors you saw yesterday. They did match the original palette.

I’ll contribute some positive feedback on the Eagles throwbacks: I really liked them. They had personality, which is more than I can say for their regular merchandise-friendly too-tough black/green uniforms.

[quote comment=”147237″][quote comment=”147125″][quote comment=”146953″]Yep, Vince redesigned the uniforms when he got to Washington to emulate his Packers design (too bad Curly Lambeau didn’t do the same thing, putting the Skins in burgandy jerseys with gold shoulder yokes and numbers).

The story goes that he lightened the burgandy because he ordered from his brother’s company, and they didn’t make the exact same color. Hence the reddish tone.[/quote]
Jerry Kramer tells the story in his book about Lombardi. Joe Lombardi worked for Rawlings and got the order. Vince liked the design and said “I want ’em in burgundy and gold.”

Joe said he couldn’t have burgundy, he could have cardinal or scarlet or…

“I want burgundy,” Vince said.

Joe, no dummy, agreed. The order form read “Color: Lombardi Burgundy (Cardinal)”[/quote]

Thanks – that’s what I remembered!

[quote comment=”147127″]The one bar mask worn by Scott Player / Browns has two screws on each side that hold it into place. If only the screw which has the chin strap snap is put in place the bar with swivel up or down. Also, I seem to remember a discussion about Clinton Portis not wearing socks (just leg warmers) in his shoes and it seems like he is still doing it. Finally, I am not sure but a lot of the the fabric from the forties, fifties and sixties was a shiny type material called durene but I don’t know if this would have been the case with the Eagles throwbacks.[/quote]

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[quote comment=”147123″]On a hockey note, is Eric Lindros’ #88 no longer considered one of the NHL’s “untouchable” numbers (like Gretzky’s 99 was before it was retired, Mario’s 66 or Jagr’s 68)?

I noticed in this years World Junior Hockey championships that Coyote’s draft pick and Team USA forward Peter Mueller was wearing 88, and that he was now continued wearing 88 during the preseason. link

Are there any non-retired sweater numbers that are off limits these days?[/quote]

Given that Eric wasn’t half the player he was expected to be, I didn’t realize that 88 ever became “untouchab;e”

[quote comment=”147072″]A couple of more observations from the Nike Merriman/Jackson commercial (of which I’m sure someone has already mentioned):

(1) The Vikings are wearing white cleats instead of their usual black

(2) The Steelers are wearing black cleats instead of their usual white

Also, Paul made mention of Clinton Portis’ white cleats. Just the reverse for the Dolphins’ Chris Chambers; in yesterday’s game he wore a pair of cleats that have a huge navy-blue “highlight”, kind of like the reverse of Portis’ design (white on top/tongue of the shoe, blue on the bottom); it almost looked like he was wearing black cleats while the rest of the team had white.

Additionally, in last week’s Giants’ report Paul stated that the NFL has mandated that teams go with one accent color on their shoes this year: apparently the Dolphins did not get the memo because 98% of the team went with the usual white/orange cleats, but Chambers and one other player (whose name skips me right now)went with white/navy-blue…..[/quote]

Isn’t the real problem with this commercial the glorification of Shawne “I love steroids” Merriman? While I have no love for Barry Bonds, seems silly that Merriman gets a pass while Bonds gets flogged. It is a little less than a year since he was suspended for steroid use but already he is in a national campaign. And Bonds was never suspended (not defending, just saying)

[quote comment=”147245″]Problem with that is that the leather helmets were painted in the colors you saw yesterday. They did match the original palette.

I’ll contribute some positive feedback on the Eagles throwbacks: I really liked them. They had personality, which is more than I can say for their regular merchandise-friendly too-tough black/green uniforms.[/quote]

Pink “My Little Pony” themed uniforms would also have personality.

They should have added some kind of shadowing to the helmet paint-jobs to make them look more like leather. Michigan should do the same.

Also, in those NIke commercials, LT goes up against a Bear defender wearing 83. This is also prominently featured in their print ad. By the way, a “unitard” sounds like someone whoe doesnt “get it.” Like…Some unitards have put together new tampa bay baseball uniforms.

Army player with “C” on jersey

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[quote comment=”147217″]I don’t recall the Phillies having a red alternate jersey. They do have red BP jerseys though, but I’ve never seen them worn during a regular season game.

Sorry for the blurry shot.

According to the Baseball Almanac.com, the Phillies and Padres did not play any doubleheaders in 1992. I doubt that those red alts were ever worn in a regular season game. Probably just spring training.[/quote]

They definately wore the red BP jerseys for at least a few regular season games in ’92 & ’93. I think they wore them for home Sunday day games.

BTW, the Phils and the Padres played a doubleheader on July 2, 1993.

Back to colors for a moment. The Fly Guys aren’t the only team in sports to wear orange and black, mind you.

The NY/SF Giants have had them since 1948, and the Baltimore Orioles have worn them since moving from St. Louis in 1954 when they were the Browns (and wore brown and orange), lest we forget Princeton (remember Penn fans doing their Joanne Worley impression before the shot clock was made legal in 1985-86 with their “BOR-ING!” chant?) since forever, the Anaheim Ducks have had those colors with gold trim (and won the Cup in them) for over a year now, while football’s all-time UniWatch Hall of Shame team, the Bengals have worn orange and black as well, as did the Baltimore Bullets for a time before moving to Washington and becoming the Wizards.

And as far as red and green, the Devils wore them from 1981 until 1992, as they were chosen by Mrs. John McMullen. I’ll wager she was colorblind.

[quote comment=”147227″]

Pelican kind of looks like the Caps new “W” eagle….[/quote]

a few things on the new LSU:

1. what’s up with the crazy (but cool!) iconography within the L S U lettering above the pelican?! reminds me of Lance Armstrong’s bike iconography as he raced in the final 2 seasons, and that now can be seen in some of his 10//2 clothing line.

2. in the flavor of the “negative space” FedEx arrow icon,
it looks like the pelican is wearing a long, blonde wig! complete with curls.

3. the pelican appears to be a hybrid with a phoenix (bird), obviously a reference to New Orleans rising from the (katrina) ashes.

::john

[quote comment=”147046″]The only thing better would be if Scott Player were permitted to go maskless, much like Don Cockroft (the old Browns punter/kicker who was the last maskless player, I believe).

That photo of Player getting nailed reminds me of a Redskins-Cowboys game in 2002 (it may have been Thanksgiving), the year the Skins wore the spear helmets. Something went awry, and Bryan Barker, the Washington punter, got hit. Next thing you know, the camera zooms in on him, and he has a broken nose. And Barker didn’t even have a single bar(ker), so I’m always a bit concerned about Player’s safety.[/quote]

Tommy McDonald is regarded as the lask maskless player with the Browns in 1968. link. Don Cockroft, who played in the 80’s, may have the distinction of being the last non-soccer style kicker, having played after Mark Moseley retired.

The Redskins looked awesome yesterday; sartorially, anyway. Liked how they went to effort of getting the numbers on the helmets accurate.

[quote comment=”147275″][quote comment=”147260″][quote comment=”147123″]On a hockey note, is Eric Lindros’ #88 no longer considered one of the NHL’s “untouchable” numbers (like Gretzky’s 99 was before it was retired, Mario’s 66 or Jagr’s 68)?

I noticed in this years World Junior Hockey championships that Coyote’s draft pick and Team USA forward Peter Mueller was wearing 88, and that he was now continued wearing 88 during the preseason. link

Are there any non-retired sweater numbers that are off limits these days?[/quote]

Given that Eric wasn’t half the player he was expected to be, I didn’t realize that 88 ever became “untouchab;e”[/quote]

Perhaps not recently, but during the late 80’s-90’s craze where players were donning 77’s, 55’s, 44’s etc. like never before, why did no player besides Lindros wear #88? Even Odjick wore #66 for a game. I think Higgins in Montreal wore #88 in ’03-’04 but by then Lindros’ career continueing wasn’t even a certainty, and he didn’t wear it for long. Why did it take from 1988 when Sakic wore it, to nearly 2004 and now this season with Kane and Meuller for someone to wear #88? Are you telling me in nearly 15 years it was as simple as no one wanting #88?[/quote]

In my opinion a lot of hockey players wear the numbers of their “hockey hero” (Gretzky couldn’t get 9 – Gordie Howe – so he wore 2 nines). Higher numbers were really rare in hockey 20 years ago (and still somewhat today).
I know a lot of kids who play now who grew up watching Lindros and wear 88 now, so we may see a lot of 88’s in the upcoming years, as well as when we get guys born in 88 starting to play, as I believe Kane was born in 88 (I could be wrong) a la Sydney Crosby: 8-7-87

Patrick Kane born 11/19/88
Peter Mueller born 4/14/88

[quote comment=”147272″]By the way, a “unitard” sounds like someone whoe doesnt “get it.” Like…Some unitards have put together new tampa bay baseball uniforms.[/quote]

I hate when people throw out the LOL’s, but that was damn funny.

[quote comment=”147200″][quote comment=”147184″]Tonight’s Mets infield is an odd one.

1 Castillo 2B
3 Easley 1B
5 Wright 3B
7 Reyes SS
9 DiFelice C[/quote]

Shouldn’t that be 4, 3, 5, 6 and 2???[/quote]
Uni numbers -from a bosox fan

[quote comment=”147209″][quote comment=”147202″]What does the green dot on the back of the helmets in the NFL mean?[/quote]

Paul, I got an aide for a new site feature:
SEARCH ENGINE!!!!!!!!
This way newbie or lazy people can search that days entry and comments or the site in general.

* OOPS(trying to think of a recovery…)
That was meant as a hint to the newbies/lazies to use the Google search at the top of the page.

Sorry, to worried about covering myself to care about my typing.

[quote comment=”146898″]Still don’t like the Washington throwbacks. ‘Do you want some fries with that?’

I never thought I’d say this (because silver is my second favorite color), but those New England throwbacks are hideous. They look like giant reflectors. As for the Iggles, I find it hard to believe those would look good even if they were in matte. All the throwbacks I’ve seen this season thus far need to be thrown away.[/quote]

I propose that the Pats go to a red alternate to be worn with silver pants. I have gone through concepts trying to figure out exactly how to do the side stripes (no piping or red and silver to run into the pants). I believe this would tie in the Pats history and look much better than dirty white uni’s on TV. Any thoughts?

There’s already a search engine there. It’s called Google on the upper right of the home page.

[quote comment=”147239″][quote comment=”147232″][quote comment=”147231″][quote comment=”147088″]The redwings use a different font during the preseason as well. They’ve done this for atleast ten year, probably much longer.

In other hockey news: I don’t like the linkon their classic looking hockey gloves[/quote]

Anyone else notice that the Rangers pants still have the old NHL orange and black logo on them?[/quote]

I know they aren’t pants, BTW…hockey pants are Cooperalls, those are breezers, but for those who aren’t hockey fans, I just wanted to make sure you knew what I was talking about…[/quote]
Opening a can of worms here. Most of North America refer to them as hockey pants, while the minority refer to them as breezers. Look in the majority of hockey equipment websites and they’re called pants by the companies that make them. Cooperalls are Cooperals no matter who makes them. My understanding is a shell that goes over a girdle is a breezer, but the one piece short is known as hockey pants.

Either way, I think if you refer to them as breezers or hockey pants, people will know what you’re talking about.[/quote]

I agree pants are pants, the shell is breezer, and cooperalls are cooperalls or rollerhockey pants. (from michigan)

MNF: Saints wearing grotesque and trendy (and somewhat effeminate) all-black uniform.

Titans wearing beyond hideous light blue plants.

This may be the ugliest NFL game I have ever seen.

[quote comment=”147339″]I’m not sure if this has been mentioned before, or if it’s relevant to what was being discussed, but minor league teams will set aside the jerseys of certain players from the parent club before the season. For instance, the Media Relations guy for the Iowa Cubs, Jeff Lantz, makes sure to keep a #22 in his office for when Mark Prior needs to make a rehab start. I also remember when Jordan did his stint with the White Sox organization he went with 45 because Robin Ventura had 23.[/quote]

I’m sure that MJ could have link with Robin to get number 23.

The number 10 on the back of USC’s Rivers helmet is not for Brian Cushing. It is for an award that player receives at the begging of the season, in honor of a past wide receiver who wore number 10. I forget the wide receivers name but the decal goes to the person who displays the traits of the old wide receiver. I will try to find out the whole story and post a link.

I’m sure that MJ could have link with Robin to get number 23.

MJ would’ve just challenged Robin to a game of Blackjack on the team bus ;)

I’d pay good money to see Drew Brees and Reggie Bush do the Haka.

Love the lt blue Titans pants
Dislike (no hate for) the all black Saints unis
Hate the white Rams pants.

Whoever posted the idea of the Browns wearing an all-white throwback helmet…that was a great idea. Love it!

The one shot of Scott Player holding for the kicker threw me off. His facemask was completely hidden in front of his shoulder and made it look like he wasn’t wearing a facemask at all.

Count me in for liking the Titans’ light blue pants.

Best looks for Tennessee:
Home: Navy jerseys/white pants
Road: White jerseys/light blue pants

As for New Orleans’ black pants, get some stripes. This isn’t college or high school.

I like these looks on the Titans:

Navy jersey/nave pants
Navy jersey/white pants
White Jersey/Titans blue pants
White Jersey/White Pants
Titans Blue jersey/Titans blue pants

I don’t like the white/navy look, and I’d like too see the titans blue jersey with the navy pants, as well as the white.
so basically, i like all combos except the white/navy one.

Two late points on previously mentioned topics.
1. Jerseys with a small group of players in mind, not the whole team.
Ever notice how the Falcons’ new uniforms looked really “next-generation” cool on Michael Vick, but horrendous on the fat linemen? Just saying…
2. Specific reasons for college colors.
I’ll give you the one example I know. Louisiana State University, when buying its first athletic uniforms, wanted purple, green, and gold fabric to make Mardi Gras uniforms. At that particular time of purchase, green was unavailable, so LSU settled on purple and gold.

[quote comment=”147384″][quote comment=”147123″]On a hockey note, is Eric Lindros’ #88 no longer considered one of the NHL’s “untouchable” numbers (like Gretzky’s 99 was before it was retired, Mario’s 66 or Jagr’s 68)?

I noticed in this years World Junior Hockey championships that Coyote’s draft pick and Team USA forward Peter Mueller was wearing 88, and that he was now continued wearing 88 during the preseason. link

Are there any non-retired sweater numbers that are off limits these days?[/quote]

The Red Wings have never officially retired number 6 for Larry Aurie, yet no one is allowed to wear it. link

Also, number 16 from the Red Wings (Vladimir Konstantinov) hasn’t been used since he last played in 1997.[/quote]
Wow, my gut wants to say that Pat Verbeek wore #16 there, forcing Brett Hull to wear #17.

Here’s a thought on the retired/semi-retired/reserved numbers topic: I think more teams should do what the Iowa State basketball team does with the #40. When a player for the University of Iowa, Chris Street, died back in 1993, the ISU program decided to honor him by establishing criteria for wearing #40 in the Cyclone program. To this day only Iowa-born players who exude the spirit of Chris Street can wear the 40, and they can only wear it for one year.

[quote comment=”147392″]Here’s a thought on the retired/semi-retired/reserved numbers topic: I think more teams should do what the Iowa State basketball team does with the #40. When a player for the University of Iowa, Chris Street, died back in 1993, the ISU program decided to honor him by establishing criteria for wearing #40 in the Cyclone program. To this day only Iowa-born players who exude the spirit of Chris Street can wear the 40, and they can only wear it for one year.[/quote]
Not uncommon.
Simeon (Illinois) High School basketball #25: I forget the story and the player’s name, but there is a story. I heard it when I was watching bits and pieces of a game of theirs on ESPN.
Ole Miss #38 for Chucky Mullins: Until recently, a senior defensive player would always wear #38 to symbolize Chucky Mullins, who was paralyzed against Vanderbilt in 1989. Recently, these players grew attached to their own numbers and seemed unwilling to wear a new number, so #38 is now a retired number (along with Archie Manning’s #18). Instead of wearing a #38 jersey, a senior defensive player gets the honor of wearing a #38 helmet sticker.

I’m not entirely sure I like the Canucks going back to green and blue. Whenever I see their jerseys from the side or behind I always think of the Whalers.

Re #265:

Chris,

Nice job, but why the shot of the swoosh?

And those fractional sleeve stripes are awful.

[quote comment=”147284″][quote comment=”147217″]I don’t recall the Phillies having a red alternate jersey. They do have red BP jerseys though, but I’ve never seen them worn during a regular season game.

Sorry for the blurry shot.

According to the Baseball Almanac.com, the Phillies and Padres did not play any doubleheaders in 1992. I doubt that those red alts were ever worn in a regular season game. Probably just spring training.[/quote]

They definately wore the red BP jerseys for at least a few regular season games in ’92 & ’93. I think they wore them for home Sunday day games.

BTW, the Phils and the Padres played a doubleheader on July 2, 1993.[/quote]
Had a few posts eaten with a correction.

That is a Sunday game on July 9, 1992. I was confused because the Phils and Dodgers had some games cancelled due to the Rodney King riots in April of 1992.

July 9, 1992 was the only time they wore them in a regular season game.

The Padres and Phillies don’t play in Spring Training. Pads in AZ – Phils in FL.

Observation on the(i.e., replica) road (white) Flyers jersey. I noticed that the bottom hem on the replica jersey has a notch/cut-out that separates the front from the back hems. I checked the photos fro mthe Flyers vs. Devils preseason game and the authentic Edge jerseys have a complete (i.e., un-notched) rounded hemline. Just another distinction to be noted.
Kinda like how the replica (i.e. screenprinted) “on field” RBK football jerseys have a back hem that is 2″ longer than the front hem (whereas authentics have even front and back hems). Guess RBK doesn’t want us to make the Premier “authentic” by simply removing the alpha jocktag (not on the authentics) and sewing in a fight strap.

[quote comment=”147263″][quote comment=”147072″]A couple of more observations from the Nike Merriman/Jackson commercial (of which I’m sure someone has already mentioned):

(1) The Vikings are wearing white cleats instead of their usual black

(2) The Steelers are wearing black cleats instead of their usual white

Also, Paul made mention of Clinton Portis’ white cleats. Just the reverse for the Dolphins’ Chris Chambers; in yesterday’s game he wore a pair of cleats that have a huge navy-blue “highlight”, kind of like the reverse of Portis’ design (white on top/tongue of the shoe, blue on the bottom); it almost looked like he was wearing black cleats while the rest of the team had white.

Additionally, in last week’s Giants’ report Paul stated that the NFL has mandated that teams go with one accent color on their shoes this year: apparently the Dolphins did not get the memo because 98% of the team went with the usual white/orange cleats, but Chambers and one other player (whose name skips me right now)went with white/navy-blue…..[/quote]

Isn’t the real problem with this commercial the glorification of Shawne “I love steroids” Merriman? While I have no love for Barry Bonds, seems silly that Merriman gets a pass while Bonds gets flogged. It is a little less than a year since he was suspended for steroid use but already he is in a national campaign. And Bonds was never suspended (not defending, just saying)[/quote]
This has been said ad nauseum. He was suspended 4 games per NFL drug policy. What is a free pass? He got caught and was punished.