The Received Word, Updated

In the first Charger/Halloween picture, the cheerleader on the left is wearing the Swiss flag, not the Red cross symbol.

[quote comment=”132999″]In the first Charger/Halloween picture, the cheerleader on the left is wearing the Swiss flag, not the Red cross symbol.[/quote]

She didn’t want to be sued by Johnson & Johnson.

“[. . .]and the swashbuckling vintage-inspired ties at the collar, which are a “throwback to our origins in 1972,” says Chris Botta, Islander’s vice president of communications. Team numbers, traditionally placed only on the back, have been added to the front of the jerseys as well, which may make favorite-player spotting easier,[. . .]”

A few points from these two half sentences:

1. I didn’t know hockey players could swashbuckle.
2. A throwback to the origins? Maybe if the rest of it didn’t look like juxtaposed crap.
3. On the front numbers, unless you have ice seats directly behind the net, you will see the back of a player as he skates down the ice.

That was the worst piece of journalism I’ve read in a while.

[quote comment=”133006″]Maybe it’s because I’m still half-asleep, but I dig those Islanders sweaters–especially the white one.[/quote]
[sarcasim] Everybody is entitled to their own opinions even if they are bad opinions [sarcasim]

[quote comment=”133001″]http://cdn.nhl.com/islanders/images/upload/2007/08/jersey_1_article.jpg

Please don’t tell me that the numbers on the front of the Islanders uniforms will actually be on different sides for home and road. They really wouldn’t do that… would they???[/quote]

Thats the first thing i noticed too, did they do it just for the sake of having the picture read 07 08 or are they actually going to do that, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. Talking about the red wings switching sides with their Cs and As this year, the Islanders would be switching every few games

Has Teebz already placed an order for the new Islanders jersey?

I don’t know if it has been done before, but I think there should definitely be an article focusing on current NFL Cheerleaders uniforms. Or maybe a ranking perhaps? I know one thing for sure… the Packers would be real far down on the list. The Pack don’t have cheerleaders per say. Since 1988 the Cheerleaders from St. Norbert College (my alma mater) and UW-Green Bay swap every other week on the sidelines of home games. The outfits they do have are pretty basic, and definitely old school.

I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……

am i seeing this right? no arm numbers on the isles sweater?

No sir i don’t like it.

oh nevermind, i just saw ken’s picture

i still don’t like them

haha never mind you already noticed it

[quote comment=”133019″]I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……[/quote]
Just subscribe to XM Satallite Radio. 170 channels of listening pleasure for around $10-14/month. I have it and it is the greatest thing in the world All MLB, NHL, ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, PGA Tour events… and I think Indy Car is thrown in there as well.

And putting my two cents into the new Islanders jersey… I know I am in the minority, but I actually kind of like them. They are different… sure maybe in a bad way, but I personally like teams who go against the grain a little. I am not an Islanders fan, nor do I know a lot about their uni history. Could some die hard fans go into detail and explain why they don’t like them so much? I would just like to hear their opinions.

Is there anywhere where one can find one of those Team Russia throwbacks? I really, really want one. It’s not often you see a really great Team Russia jersey for something that isn’t a CCCP throwback…

[quote comment=”133003″]My updated edition of Bill Henderson’s “MLB Game Worn Jerseys of the Double Knit Era” arrived in the mail yesterday, making it one of the most exciting days of the year. My wife thought that I was nuts as I did a victory dance around the kitchen after opening the envelope.[/quote]

I am eagerly awaiting mine!!! I can’t wait!

I’m in complete agreement with some of these postings. The fisherman jersey for the Isles is by far a better design than the new crap that these guys came up with. This is proof of the crap that the Isles have become over the years ever since Milbury took over.

The Islanders have finally link. After 30 years of following this team (with waning interest in the last 5), I am officially out!!! How the hell could this orginization not have learned their lesson?!!! They tried a link once and the fans (except for Teebz) spoke out and said “Why change a link?”. So, they do the right thing and link(albeit with some minor tweaks). Now they go and create a monstrosity that, except for the logo, rivals the link and the link and the worst unis in Hockey…not the NHL, but all of freakin’ hockey.

Now to top it all off, my link, that I read every day apparently had a major link in their headquaters; because link are the only way you can explain link.

link!!! Goodbye NHL!!!

link!!!

Could some die hard fans go into detail and explain why they don’t like them so much? I would just like to hear their opinions.

It looks like they took a bunch of scraps and threw them together. It is a uniform of “pieces” that do not mesh into a coherent whole.

On a historical note, the Islanders booted a chance to go back to the color blue they wore in their glory days.

Oh, well. As a Ranger fan this will just give me another topic to goof on the Islanders all year.

A quick improvement on the Isles jerseys would be to take the number off the front (it’s just terrible) and to remove the piping in the shoulder area and to have the collar be the main color of the jersey.

wow! the link is live…
earliest ive ever seen it on pg 2!

I hate to say it, but link is just plain wrong.

Looking at those Brewers uniforms, he has drawn some incorrect inferences based on jersey tagging. In the early 1970s the Brewers, like many clubs, recycled jerseys from year to year. The jerseys with blue and gold piping on the neck and sleeves were actually from 1971, even though many still bear the original “1970” tagging.

Shame, because I love this resource. But that has to be corrected.

[quote comment=”133046″]wow! the link is live…
earliest ive ever seen it on pg 2![/quote]

Holy crap, check out that prototype 76ers logo. That thing is sweet, although more suited to like a high school team. The 76 in the sword? Awesome!

I have always divided my NHL loyalties between the Islanders and the Blackhawks. These new uniforms have now made me a one-team man.

LET’S GO BLACKHAWKS! (assuming they don’t desecrate their uniforms too)

The Wings jersey looks about as good as it can under the new design, and still one of the best in the league, but I know that the collar and white crescent at the bottom are going to bother me. The link pictures make it look like the bottom stripe is even, as always. I’ll wait until their on the ice, I guess.

RE: Stars on Texas uniforms: Isn’t it ironic that the Rockets, one team that could legitimately put stars on it uniform, are the only team that doesn’t have stars?

[quote comment=”133070″][quote comment=”133068″]I have always divided my NHL loyalties between the Islanders and the Blackhawks. These new uniforms have now made me a one-team man.

LET’S GO BLACKHAWKS! (assuming they don’t desecrate their uniforms too)[/quote]

I’m pretty sure they desecrated them pretty thoroughly with their play the last few years.[/quote]

Agreed. As a (former) Chicagoan, I’d much prefer if they DIDN’T wear the uniform that once went to the playoffs 28 years straight.

The Islanders really whiffed on a opportunity blend traditional and contemporary stylistic elements. The blue-and-orange color scheme is such a good combination that I don’t think it would have taken much to devise a great-looking jersey. The color blocking is just so sad — just awful.

On the Russian baseball uniforms, I think they look fantastic as I’m a big fan of the heathered gray look. Are those unis really flannel or just made to look that way? In any event, I wish some MLB team would adopt a textured gray look over the flat gray all have now. I think it would instantly upgrade most teams’ road unis without changing any other stylistic elements.

One last thing: I saw a couple references to IU’s “Hep” patch in comments on Wednesday and wanted to chime in that I think the football players did very well in coming up with a classy looking memorial to their dearly departed coach. It’s been hard to spot a photo on the helmet decal but I found one blurry glimpse on the IU Web site, link. It looks to me like it’s a round white decal on the back of the crimson helmet with the words “Don’t Quit” arched in the top half of the decal and the number “13” in the middle, all in crimson. The “13” is a reference to IU’s mission/mantra to “play 13” — 12 regular season games and a bowl game.

[quote comment=”133040″]Could some die hard fans go into detail and explain why they don’t like them so much? I would just like to hear their opinions.

It looks like they took a bunch of scraps and threw them together. It is a uniform of “pieces” that do not mesh into a coherent whole.

[/quote]

Agreed – the panels may work well as a form/fit/function aspect, but do teams really need to accentuate them with different color piping and/or panels? Witness the Bruins new sweater – at least they had the good sense to make the shoulder portion look retro and integrate it seamlessly into the overall design, unlike what my beloved Isles have done.

[quote comment=”133076″][quote comment=”133005″]1. I didn’t know hockey players could swashbuckle.
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Only if they’re the old link. No word if they played with parrots on their shoulders.[/quote]

Avast! Have ye seen the new pirate movie that was jsut released? It’s rated “ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR”

link guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse

my favorite part of the Islanders article is:
Head coach Ted Nolan believes the new look “bodes well” for the season. “When you look good and feel good you work better and play better.”

or the fashion designer calling the neckline a little kids shirt with the laces.

but my own opinion about them? i like the white better than the blue, doesn’t mean i like them but… and so far the original 6 have remained classy

I did not read yesterday’s comments, so I don’t know if it was posted. Yesterday it was announced that New Mexico State’s football team will wear pink socks for their Sept 29th game.

link

link

I guess I am link challlenged. Here is a link to the article.

[quote comment=”133060″]Carry over from yesterday and the stars on Texas uniforms:

Dallas Stars: yes, a big one.
Dallas Cowboys: uh, yeah.
Dallas Mavericks: back of jersey, above the name
Texas Rangers: Texas state flag patch on sleeve and on logo
FC Dallas: crest on jersey
Houston Astros: jersey and hat.
Houston Texans: helmet
Houston Rockets: No
Houston Comets: in the logo
Houston Dynamo: crest on jersey
San Antonio Spurs: only if you count the ‘spur’ itself as a star.
San Antonio SilverStars: about a hundred of them

So there you have it. It makes so much sense when you break it down scientifically. Texans LOVE their stars.

I’m sure there are also many minor league teams in Texas that also sport a star either on either their logo or jersey.

OK my curiosity is now satisfied.[/quote]
Texas is the link

I think the Isles jerseys are terrible. And whoever wrote that article for the paper up there is smoking the dank. The one shining ray of cool is the orange lace on the blue jersey. I’ve never seen that before, I think the contrast looks pretty neat.

[quote comment=”133071″]
RE: Stars on Texas uniforms: Isn’t it ironic that the Rockets, one team that could legitimately put stars on it uniform, are the only team that doesn’t have stars?[/quote]

Not at all… because a stupid Hollywood movie type designed the stupid logo and hasn’t a clue! That link won’t even fly, it would spin around in a loop.

[quote comment=”133081″][quote comment=”133073″][quote comment=”133070″]I’m pretty sure they desecrated them pretty thoroughly with their play the last few years.[/quote]

Agreed. As a (former) Chicagoan, I’d much prefer if they DIDN’T wear the uniform that once went to the playoffs 28 years straight.[/quote]

The responses to my last comment show exactly how bad it has gotten in Chicago.

However, it’s ain’t exactly greener here in Philly. Years of close but not quite and last year’s team that lost the ability to form coherent sentences.

Hopefully, the Flyers won’t botch their uniforms. I can’t wait to be there and either throw things or sigh in relief.[/quote]

at least you had close but not quite. The Hawks can’t even claim close.

[quote comment=”133089″][quote comment=”133086″]link guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse[/quote]

My God, man. You have a sick mind. You have to really be looking for something like that to find it.[/quote]

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

The Peace Tower, located on Parliament Hill, IIRC.

Hot shit, I made the ESPN column!!! Wow, thanks for posting my freak jersey pics Paul!
matt

I am probably in the minority among Giants fans, but I can’t stand the cream colored home unis. I know, I know, they harken back to the NY days, but they probably looked alot better when they were made of wool.

Giants owner Peter Magowan said that he wanted the uniforms to look like they did in 1958, when the Giants arrived in San Francisco (of course, with modern tailoring and fabric). Hence, the cream-colored home uniforms.

[quote comment=”133110″]what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?

The Peace Tower, located on Parliament Hill, IIRC.[/quote]

This is Canada’s equivalent to the Capitol Dome in Washington.

[quote comment=”133115″]I am probably in the minority among Giants fans, but I can’t stand the cream colored home unis. I know, I know, they harken back to the NY days, but they probably looked alot better when they were made of wool.

Giants owner Peter Magowan said that he wanted the uniforms to look like they did in 1958, when the Giants arrived in San Francisco (of course, with modern tailoring and fabric). Hence, the cream-colored home uniforms.[/quote]
And by modern tailoring, he means link? Magowan should worry a little more about quality control.

[quote comment=”133105″][quote comment=”133030″][quote comment=”133019″]I think I will have to subscribe to NHL Radio next year……[/quote]
Just subscribe to XM Satallite Radio. 170 channels of listening pleasure for around $10-14/month. I have it and it is the greatest thing in the world All MLB, NHL, ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, PGA Tour events… and I think Indy Car is thrown in there as well.
[/quote]
I was just pointing out that at least on the radio I won’t have to watch these uniforms in action. Just a total disregard to the history of the game.[/quote]
I gotcha… good call

From the Chicago Suntimes:

“New Cubs left-hander Carmen Pignatiello — a Chicago-area native, no less — finally got a nameplate on his clubhouse locker stall on his second day on the job. His name was spelled ‘Tignaitello.'”

Oops!

[quote comment=”133129″]From the Chicago Suntimes:

“New Cubs left-hander Carmen Pignatiello — a Chicago-area native, no less — finally got a nameplate on his clubhouse locker stall on his second day on the job. His name was spelled ‘Tignaitello.'”

Oops![/quote]

lemme guess
berman will be calling him carmen pignatiello “on the donkey”

[quote comment=”133131″]The number on the front chest of NHL jerseys is a trend that is not only expanding but here to stay. From the Isles website “In order to keep pace with the new times, the Islanders followed in the footsteps of the extremely popular Buffalo Sabres jerseys by including the players’ numbers on the front of the jersey. The Islanders, along with four other teams, feature numbers on the front, with more likely to follow in the coming years”[/quote]

Trends are not always a positive thing . . .I think the whole number on the front of the jersey thing fails Paul’s “Is it good or is it stupid” test.
Numbers on the back – good; Numbers on the sleeve or shoulder – good (easier to read on TV). Numbers on the front, upper chest – stupid (when a player is in a link, the number is difficult, AT BEST, to even read!)

[quote comment=”133133″]excellent ESPN column today Paul.

the pics of the Tampa Bay Bucs rejected helmets show some drawings of jersey mock-ups. wow. now those are some ugly jerseys. we should all thank the uni-gods they never saw the light of day.[/quote]

What’s the link? Can’t find it…

Oh my god, the link is so sweet!

[quote comment=”133011″][quote comment=”133001″]http://cdn.nhl.com/islanders/images/upload/2007/08/jersey_1_article.jpg

Please don’t tell me that the numbers on the front of the Islanders uniforms will actually be on different sides for home and road. They really wouldn’t do that… would they???[/quote]

Thats the first thing i noticed too, did they do it just for the sake of having the picture read 07 08 or are they actually going to do that, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. Talking about the red wings switching sides with their Cs and As this year, the Islanders would be switching every few games[/quote]

In the picture above of the two unis on hangars, the number is on the left side on the blue one, but in link, the number is on the right. WTF?

[quote comment=”133149″][quote comment=”133011″][quote comment=”133001″]http://cdn.nhl.com/islanders/images/upload/2007/08/jersey_1_article.jpg

Please don’t tell me that the numbers on the front of the Islanders uniforms will actually be on different sides for home and road. They really wouldn’t do that… would they???[/quote]

Thats the first thing i noticed too, did they do it just for the sake of having the picture read 07 08 or are they actually going to do that, because that would be absolutely ridiculous. Talking about the red wings switching sides with their Cs and As this year, the Islanders would be switching every few games[/quote]

In the picture above of the two unis on hangars, the number is on the left side on the blue one, but in link, the number is on the right. WTF?[/quote]

The jerseys on hangers was done for the photo only. The numbers will appear on both jerseys on the right side during the season.

[quote comment=”133076″][quote comment=”133005″]1. I didn’t know hockey players could swashbuckle.
[/quote]

Only if they’re the old link. No word if they played with parrots on their shoulders.[/quote]

don’t forget… link one could make an argument for link also.

Teebz, I’ve always liked the Fisherman jersey too.

I contacted the Phillies yesterday on trying to make a switch in uniforms in either getting a totally different design or getting an alternate jersey. Because for being a Phillies fan for as long as I have seeing them wear the same thing constantly gets pretty annoying. But after contacting them they sent me a email back which stated, Mr. Fetko,

In terms of an alternate uniform, you most likely will hear some information about 2008 after our season has concluded.

Thanks,

The Phillies * One Citizens Bank Way * Philadelphia PA 19148

So I say look for something different for next season.

[quote comment=”133158″][quote comment=”133107″][quote comment=”133089″][quote comment=”133086″]link guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse[/quote]

My God, man. You have a sick mind. You have to really be looking for something like that to find it.[/quote]

what the hll is that ottawa logo supposed to be?[/quote]

It’s a cyclops.

They’re very popular in canada.[/quote]
That logo made me think of Terence & Phillip from South Park for some reason. Blame Canada!

[quote comment=”133166″][quote comment=”133164″]I contacted the Phillies yesterday on trying to make a switch in uniforms in either getting a totally different design or getting an alternate jersey. Because for being a Phillies fan for as long as I have seeing them wear the same thing constantly gets pretty annoying. But after contacting them they sent me a email back which stated, Mr. Fetko,

In terms of an alternate uniform, you most likely will hear some information about 2008 after our season has concluded.

Thanks,

The Phillies * One Citizens Bank Way * Philadelphia PA 19148

So I say look for something different for next season.[/quote]
I’m betting they’ll jump on the red alternate jersey bandwagon. On behalf of Astro’s fans everywhere, welcome.[/quote]

As a Pirates fan I too welcome you to our own private Hell.

A couple of things from Paul’s column:

Giants: In 1994, the Giants changed their road jersey design from a simple “SF” logo

That was a mistake by the Giants. They should go back to the “SF” jersey logo. It was simple, classy, and different.

Seahawks: When the Hawks unveiled their new helmet logo in 2002, they presented two versions of the helmet and let their fans vote on which one would be the keeper. The blue version was the overwhelming winner

In that case, the Seahawks have soon pretty idiotic fans. The Seahawks went from having one of the best uniforms/helmets to one of the worst.

Angels: The origins of this prototype design, from the team’s Disney-owned era…

The Disney-era Angels uniforms really grew on me. I initially despised them, especially since they came immediately after the absolutely perfect “CA” caps and uniforms of the early-mid 1990s.

Just my two cents…

Last Friday we discussed whether or not Penn State’s jerseys have a small PSU logo on them. While I still believe that they did at one point, I recieved my “game worn” jersey in the mail today and I can confirm that they do not anymore.

[quote comment=”133086″]link guy looks like he’s bent over grabbing his ankles with a Canadian flag sticking out of his arse[/quote]

I have to admit it, once he said I see it too…

And why is all that stuff on the Buc’s prototypes locked out? Cant see it here…any other links to it please?

A couple of days back when talking about hidden logos I am not sure it anyone mentioned link

Anyway, the The entire logo is an M (Montreal) the red portion is an e(Expos) and blue portion is a b(baseball). Altogether it is Montreal Expos Baseball.

[quote comment=”133186″]A couple of days back when talking about hidden logos I am not sure it anyone mentioned link

Anyway, the The entire logo is an M (Montreal) the red portion is an e(Expos) and blue portion is a b(baseball). Altogether it is Montreal Expos Baseball.[/quote]

Also forms C and D for Club du Baseball Montreal.

nice interview…
that host was brutal though…
he gave me a headache…
how many times did he need to interrupt you or speak over you with his stupid jokes

link to here
link
then choose the Paul Lucas link… (they couldnt get that right either…

[quote comment=”133187″]Reebok has gone on and on and on about how much better the new hockey uniform will perform. I don’t call making 100% uglier jerseys to reduce the drag by 5% a great improvement.

Same thing goes for Nike, New Era, etc. They tout all of these HUGE improvements which actually turn out to be quite minor, and they turn away from fan opinion,tradition and style.

Progress indeed.[/quote]

I’m probably in the minority here, but I think almost any minor improvement that helps the quality of play is probably a good improvement. True, sometimes teams or manufacturers use new inovations as an excuse to make major design changes that are sometimes bad, but that’s a separate issue. Uniforms have always been evolving, seems to silly to stop just because of tradition.

I love those all-graphite Toronto outfits! It’s too bad the league refused them; they would have looked really distinctive. The idea that they would have been “too hot” (it’s not thatmuch darker than regular gray) seems like an flimsy excuse.

Also, in this link, I think Dressed to the Nines has the number font wrong. The “1” didn’t have a base on it.

“I love that it’s more fitted. Skinny is definitely a menswear trend and very hot. Hated, hated, hated the tie on the neckline,” said Nina Garcia, Elle Magazine’s fashion director and the very vocal and sometimes tough judge on Bravo hit show, “Project Runway.” “I don’t really get it unless there’s some functional reason for it. It looks like a little boy’s shirt. I love the numbers on the front and some of the color blocking. Other than that I think they should have left it alone. It’s overly designed and too busy.”

ok, let’s get this straight right here and now, fashion designers have no freaking clue about sports apparel. they’ve tried, it doesn’t work. that’s how we got the blue, black and bronze of the caps. so all of the fashion designers, sit down and shut up.

lace-up collars are the stirrups of hockey. nobody else does laceup collars. there might be a few throughout history, but none are around today that i know of.

skinny? numbers on the front? F#%& YOU!

that said, i don’t think the isles jersey is all that bad. granted, it’s worse than what they had. personally, i’m reminded of link, and actually the isles jerseys are a little bit less busy. The shoulder outline is interesting, and doesn’t seem to be all that crazy. And they acutally have hemline stripes that aren’t pencil-sized!!! think of how bad it could’ve been! all things considered, this is one of the better jerseys we’ve seen so far.

[quote comment=”133161″]Teebz, I’ve always liked the Fisherman jersey too.[/quote]

Sweet! The more, the merrier! Glad to have you aboard, ScottyJ! :o)

Paul or Vince, could you rescue a post for me? it was eaten by the spam filter

[quote comment=”133196″][quote comment=”133145″][quote comment=”133079″]I am sad that my Reds prototype didn’t make the cut. Alas.

link

I talked to several people (collectors, mostly) about that design, and the consensus was that it was probably not a true Reds prototype, but rather a stock item that had been modified to look Reds-ish. So I didn’t include it in the column. Sorry.[/quote]

That’s very interesting. I wonder what the reasoning would be for doing such a thing.[/quote]

Itlooks like a Reds jersey, but you can bootleg it without getting sued.

… I didn’t think the Islanders jersey was THAT bad. It’s busy, yes, but in my opinion, I don’t think it crosses into “bad” territory.

[quote comment=”133187″]Here’s an link from MIT about testing done there on hockey uniforms.

In the article it says the overall drag difference from old to new was 5%, and the thermal profile reduced by 10%.

Now, I’m all for moving forward and improving performance, but at what cost?

Here’s the problem I’ve got with the direction some of the uniform suppliers are taking…..to sell marginally better products, they have to sell a huge load of bunk along with them.

Reebok has gone on and on and on about how much better the new hockey uniform will perform. I don’t call making 100% uglier jerseys to reduce the drag by 5% a great improvement.

Same thing goes for Nike, New Era, etc. They tout all of these HUGE improvements which actually turn out to be quite minor, and they turn away from fan opinion,tradition and style.

Progress indeed.[/quote]
[sarcasm] As a hockey player I am so happy MIT has studied the problems with the hold hockey sweaters. I can’t tell you how many times I had to be taken out of a game becasue my sweater was slowing me down or over heating me. Thank goodness those few percentage points will save them game and keep many a hockey players from beeing rushed to the ER with fatigue and other injuries due to the old sweaters. [sarcasm]

Overall interesting read though.

[quote comment=”133199″]”I love that it’s more fitted. Skinny is definitely a menswear trend and very hot. Hated, hated, hated the tie on the neckline,” said Nina Garcia, Elle Magazine’s fashion director and the very vocal and sometimes tough judge on Bravo hit show, “Project Runway.” “I don’t really get it unless there’s some functional reason for it”. [/quote]

Like the fashion industry is big on link… wtf?

Great ESPN article, Paul. I love several of those prototypes, starting with the Saints’ black helmet. LOVE it. Also, the Blues, the silver on the Red Sox unis (but the gold shows up better), and the jag-u-ar stretching on the helmet.

P.S. Any Brits out there? I will be visiting London and Cambridge (mostly Cambridge), and I want to know what I should see. I am not the typical tourist (in other words, I don’t give a rat’s ass about Buckingham Palace), so if you’re out there, give me some hidden gems.

[quote comment=”133224″][quote comment=”133223″]Great ESPN article, Paul. I love several of those prototypes, starting with the Saints’ black helmet. LOVE it. Also, the Blues, the silver on the Red Sox unis (but the gold shows up better), and the jag-u-ar stretching on the helmet.

P.S. Any Brits out there? I will be visiting London and Cambridge (mostly Cambridge), and I want to know what I should see. I am not the typical tourist (in other words, I don’t give a rat’s ass about Buckingham Palace), so if you’re out there, give me some hidden gems.[/quote]

Check out a footy game, Minna! There’s nothing like it! :o)[/quote]

Man, I want to. Which team should I root for?

*Ducks as she starts a futbol war*

[quote comment=”133226″]Oh, and Teebz, I kinda like the nauseating fisherman, too.[/quote]
Me too. I actualy bought one of those jerseys (note I didn’t call it a sweater as that’s an insult to sweaters) and wore it as my practice jersey in high school as I was a goalie.

[quote comment=”133231″][quote comment=”133226″]Oh, and Teebz, I kinda like the nauseating fisherman, too.[/quote]
The ‘nauseating fisherman’ is a site for eyes compared to what BARF, er RBK did to their new and improved RBK-barf jerseys. I actually feel anger towards the jersey, is that normal??[/quote]

It’s all right, Broker75, we

I don’t know why everyone hates the Isles’ new sweaters (or “shirts” as one enlightened journalist likes to call them) so much. I think they’re very classy. They remind me of the sweaters the Penguins wore during their Cup years.

The only thing I’m not crazy about is the blue shoulder outline on the aways.

[quote comment=”133235″]I don’t know why everyone hates the Isles’ new sweaters (or “shirts” as one enlightened journalist likes to call them) so much. I think they’re very classy. They remind me of the sweaters the Penguins wore during their Cup years.

The only thing I’m not crazy about is the blue shoulder outline on the aways.[/quote]

Wow…I hadn’t noticed the similarities in the sleeve striping to the old Pens. It is close. I definitely don’t think they’re as bad as everyone is saying…I’d still drop them into the bottom 1/3 of the league…but not worse than the Panthers!

[quote comment=”133238″][quote comment=”133236″][quote comment=”133231″][quote comment=”133226″]Oh, and Teebz, I kinda like the nauseating fisherman, too.[/quote]
The ‘nauseating fisherman’ is a site for eyes compared to what BARF, er RBK did to their new and improved RBK-barf jerseys. I actually feel anger towards the jersey, is that normal??[/quote]

It’s all right, Broker75, we’ll hold you.

todd k., you are correct that the host on mlb.com is an idiont. Too bad because Paul was his usual erudite self. Paul, you have a really sexy voice. Just thought I’d throw it out there.[/quote]
Is that a pass at Paul Minna? :)[/quote]

That’s for me to know….

How many people here have a fisherman’s jersey/sweater? I don’t, but now I’m curious.

[quote comment=”133240″][quote comment=”133237″][quote comment=”133235″]I don’t know why everyone hates the Isles’ new sweaters (or “shirts” as one enlightened journalist likes to call them) so much. I think they’re very classy. They remind me of the sweaters the Penguins wore during their Cup years.

The only thing I’m not crazy about is the blue shoulder outline on the aways.[/quote]

Wow…I hadn’t noticed the similarities in the sleeve striping to the old Pens. It is close. I definitely don’t think they’re as bad as everyone is saying…I’d still drop them into the bottom 1/3 of the league…but not worse than the Panthers![/quote]

Um, maybe it’s my eye for a good jersey design (Penguins) versus one I hate (new Isles), but link are far different than link.[/quote]

Right…definitely not identical…but similar. Ask this…if it didn’t have the front chest numbers…would people be turning out in droves to “burn the witch!” (she turned me into a newt once….I got better).

[quote comment=”133225″][quote comment=”133224″][quote comment=”133223″]Great ESPN article, Paul. I love several of those prototypes, starting with the Saints’ black helmet. LOVE it. Also, the Blues, the silver on the Red Sox unis (but the gold shows up better), and the jag-u-ar stretching on the helmet.

P.S. Any Brits out there? I will be visiting London and Cambridge (mostly Cambridge), and I want to know what I should see. I am not the typical tourist (in other words, I don’t give a rat’s ass about Buckingham Palace), so if you’re out there, give me some hidden gems.[/quote]

Check out a footy game, Minna! There’s nothing like it! :o)[/quote]

Man, I want to. Which team should I root for?

*Ducks as she starts a futbol war*[/quote]

There is no war. There are three Americans at Fulham. You root for Fulham.

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[quote comment=”133243″][quote comment=”133240″][quote comment=”133237″][quote comment=”133235″]I don’t know why everyone hates the Isles’ new sweaters (or “shirts” as one enlightened journalist likes to call them) so much. I think they’re very classy. They remind me of the sweaters the Penguins wore during their Cup years.

The only thing I’m not crazy about is the blue shoulder outline on the aways.[/quote]

Wow…I hadn’t noticed the similarities in the sleeve striping to the old Pens. It is close. I definitely don’t think they’re as bad as everyone is saying…I’d still drop them into the bottom 1/3 of the league…but not worse than the Panthers![/quote]

Um, maybe it’s my eye for a good jersey design (Penguins) versus one I hate (new Isles), but link are far different than link.[/quote]

Right…definitely not identical…but similar. Ask this…if it didn’t have the front chest numbers…would people be turning out in droves to “burn the witch!” (she turned me into a newt once….I got better).[/quote]
Without front numbers = good. And the breakup of orange from the elbow to shoulder is hilariously stupid. A full extension of the dark blue for the sleeves would be better, the bottom of the sleeve looks ok as is, it’s the bicep section thats pissing me off, then I’d be almost happy.

[quote comment=”133226″]Oh, and Teebz, I kinda like the nauseating fisherman, too.[/quote]

Conspiracy theorists abound!! TEEBZ designed the new Islander monstrocity to gain favor for his “so awful it’s awesome” fisherman’s (I’ll assume “KASPARAITIS”) jersey!

Minna H.,

“How many people here have a fisherman’s jersey/sweater? I don’t, but now I’m curious.”

I have one (It was a gift)…I also have the jersey with the fisherman pattern (but without the fisherman, which I happened to think was a pretty snazzy looking sweater.

[quote comment=”133246″][quote comment=”133240″][quote comment=”133237″][quote comment=”133235″]I don’t know why everyone hates the Isles’ new sweaters (or “shirts” as one enlightened journalist likes to call them) so much. I think they’re very classy. They remind me of the sweaters the Penguins wore during their Cup years.

The only thing I’m not crazy about is the blue shoulder outline on the aways.[/quote]

Wow…I hadn’t noticed the similarities in the sleeve striping to the old Pens. It is close. I definitely don’t think they’re as bad as everyone is saying…I’d still drop them into the bottom 1/3 of the league…but not worse than the Panthers![/quote]

Um, maybe it’s my eye for a good jersey design (Penguins) versus one I hate (new Isles), but link are far different than link.[/quote]
Teebz, your pic of Lemieux made me think of something. Where are teams that have the front jersey number going to place a Stanley Cup patch? I don’t see anywhere on the new Isles jersey where it could go.[/quote]

shoulder, like link or link

link might be screwed though…it’s alright, they’ll never need to put that patch onlink!link

Has anyone ever seen link I wonder if the Titans are the only team who does this or what…I’ve never seen it done before.

BT

[quote comment=”133251″][quote comment=”133226″]Oh, and Teebz, I kinda like the nauseating fisherman, too.[/quote]

Conspiracy theorists abound!! TEEBZ designed the new Islander monstrocity to gain favor for his “so awful it’s awesome” fisherman’s (I’ll assume “KASPARAITIS”) jersey![/quote]

I actually like this conspiracy idea. Perhaps I can revive the Fisherman? And Kasparaitis was the only player there for the longest time that I could like.

Todd Bertuzzi? He was/is terrible.
Travis Green? He has never been good.
Mathieu Schneider? At that stage of his career, no.
Trevor Linden? Not on your life.
Kirk Muller? Wayyyy past his prime.

[quote comment=”133260″]Has anyone ever seen link I wonder if the Titans are the only team who does this or what…I’ve never seen it done before.

BT[/quote]

Kerry Rhodes of the Jets does it. link.

I’m not sure why this interests me enough to mention it, but there’s a guy on the radio in New York whose first name is Brandon—he calls himself BT also.

Let’s see what link and the link will do.

[quote comment=”133264″]Paul, none of the Tampa Bay Bucs pics are working on the ESPN.com article.

Is anyone else having an issue opening them?

I didn’t see any comments from anyone else……[/quote]
I did….but that’s because of the Internet blocker I have here at work. If anyone can see the pics and wouldn’t mind putting them on another site, I would GREATLY appreciate it.

[quote comment=”133266″][quote comment=”133260″]Has anyone ever seen link I wonder if the Titans are the only team who does this or what…I’ve never seen it done before.

BT[/quote]

Kerry Rhodes of the Jets does it. link.

I’m not sure why this interests me enough to mention it, but there’s a guy on the radio in New York whose first name is Brandon—he calls himself BT also.[/quote]

I can’t find a good pic of it, but I remember Ed McCaffrey of the Broncos used to do this. He used to wear his shoulder pad, cleats, etc. as small as possible to cut down on weight and perform better. He cut an ‘x’ at the toes of his shoes to let his big toe poke through.

I would love to see Jose Offerman try to charge the mound on link. I don’t think Jose would have been walking to the police car after that.

[quote comment=”133288″]A teams crest/shield is meant to be official and regal looking, this saint on a horse thing looks ridiculous

It’s the statue of Saint Louis that is located in downtown St. Louis.[/quote]
I don’t think the crest looks that bad but ‘St. Louis Soccer United’? Are you kidding me?

[quote comment=”133223″]Great ESPN article, Paul. I love several of those prototypes, starting with the Saints’ black helmet. LOVE it. Also, the Blues, the silver on the Red Sox unis (but the gold shows up better), and the jag-u-ar stretching on the helmet.

P.S. Any Brits out there? I will be visiting London and Cambridge (mostly Cambridge), and I want to know what I should see. I am not the typical tourist (in other words, I don’t give a rat’s ass about Buckingham Palace), so if you’re out there, give me some hidden gems.[/quote]

I’m not a Brit, but just spent two weeks there visiting my girlfriend’s family. Did some tourist things (British Library, National Gallery, Tate Modern), but my favorite was Charles Darwin’s house in the village of Downe, Kent. It’s been maintained pretty much as it was when he lived in it, and I got a real charge out of standing in the very room and seeing the very desk and chair where he wrote The Origin of Species. Another favorite was the display room in the British Library with everything from the Magna Carta to Shakespeare’s First Folio to Jane Austen’s journals to Beatles’ lyrics scrawled on backs of envelopes by John and Paul.

[quote comment=”133176″]A couple of things from Paul’s column:

Seahawks: When the Hawks unveiled their new helmet logo in 2002, they presented two versions of the helmet and let their fans vote on which one would be the keeper. The blue version was the overwhelming winner

In that case, the Seahawks have soon pretty idiotic fans. The Seahawks went from having one of the best uniforms/helmets to one of the worst.

Just my two cents…[/quote]

I voted for the silver helmet!

[quote comment=”133113″]Hot shit, I made the ESPN column!!! Wow, thanks for posting my freak jersey pics Paul!
matt[/quote]

Me too.

I feel like the Islanders jersey is so close to great yet so very, very far. Ignoring the crappy quality of my editing, isn’t link much better than link? All they had to do is take out that awful piping at the top, and not make the sleeves so orange. It literally took me 3 minutes to do that.

[quote comment=”133189″][quote comment=”133186″]A couple of days back when talking about hidden logos I am not sure it anyone mentioned link

Anyway, the The entire logo is an M (Montreal) the red portion is an e(Expos) and blue portion is a b(baseball). Altogether it is Montreal Expos Baseball.[/quote]

Also forms C and D for Club du Baseball Montreal.[/quote]

Isn’t it an e, d and b for Equipe du Baseball Montreal?

There ain’t no “c” in that logo anywhere from what I can see, and you can make up a lot of stuff from that logo :)

. . . .although I’ve long thought that St. Louis should have some team called the Archers.

[quote comment=”133239″]
How many people here have a fisherman’s jersey/sweater? I don’t, but now I’m curious.[/quote]

[Raises Hand] Road. No name and number.. I was going to get Kenny Jonsson, but I was young and had no money for it. Anyone know of somewhere that would still do it? (keeping in mind the crazy numbers).

[quote comment=”133324″][quote comment=”133189″][quote comment=”133186″]A couple of days back when talking about hidden logos I am not sure it anyone mentioned link

Anyway, the The entire logo is an M (Montreal) the red portion is an e(Expos) and blue portion is a b(baseball). Altogether it is Montreal Expos Baseball.[/quote]

Also forms C and D for Club du Baseball Montreal.[/quote]

Isn’t it an e, d and b for Equipe du Baseball Montreal?

There ain’t no “c” in that logo anywhere from what I can see, and you can make up a lot of stuff from that logo :)[/quote]
Some say the E D B is also for Elizabeth D. Bronfman, daughter of the team owner Charles Bronfman, he of the booze [Seagram’s] fortune.

The Brewers did something interesting today to try and help their slump they have going on…

” The Brewers have tried dabbling in the trade market, shuffling their lineup — anything to shake them out of their recent slump.

They tried something new before Thursday’s game, with almost every player and coach submitting to a buzz cut administered by Kevin Mench, J.J. Hardy and Claudio Vargas in the home clubhouse.

About six or seven players had shaved their heads on Wednesday, but most of the players resisted the new team haircut until Matt Wise and Corey Hart, two of the players with the longest locks, agreed to it.

“You always try to find stuff to get you going,” Hart said.

Part of their reluctance could be attributed to their wives’ disapproval. Hart’s wife, Kristina, grudgingly let him cut his hair, but not before protesting that “you have such pretty hair.”

Wise’ wife, Amy, was a little more forceful in her disapproval, sending him a text message expressing her skepticism.

At least Hart wasn’t going home with a mullet. The hairdressers at first chopped off the locks on top of his head but left a wave of hair flowing down the back of his neck. Hart paraded through the clubhouse for a few minutes with that look, to his teammates’ delight.

“That’s going to get us some wins!” Bill Hall yelled triumphantly.

Some members of the team nonetheless refused to cave in to the pressure, including hitting coach Jim Skaalen.

“Give me a week, and my hair will all fall out and I’ll look like that anyway,” Skallen said.”

That “Philadelphia” road jersey looks great. I wish they would have gone with that. And the possibility of them getting an alternate both excites and scares me. On one hand I’d be happy to see another jersey in their set, but on the other, I would hope not to see something like the Angels did with the all red.

I have a feeling that Johnny O (POST #85) must work for XM Radio.

Teebz, you mention on your site that the wings moved teh C/A to avoid teh seams. Look at the pic though it goes right over the right seam now.

link
And you can kinda see Edmonton’s new jersey in the bottom pic.

Here’s a blow-up look of Edmonton’s new jersey (lotta white): link

If they didnt mess with the angle and just changed the colors and removed the baseball on linkthis, itd be sweet.

[quote comment=”133356″]I have a feeling that Johnny O (POST #85) must work for XM Radio.[/quote]
No dice Scott. I am but a humble golf pro from Wisconsin. I have had XM Radio for over a year now. When I used to be a sales rep for Titleist I traveled a lot, and it was the only way I could listen to Brewers games in Chi Town, Michigan, or Minnesota. It is just simply a great product that everyone should try. And with a merger of Sirius Radio.. it should be even better

I clicked on the Henderson “typography” link in today’s post and discovered that my “official” Braves John Smoltz road jersey, purchased by my Dad from the Braves clubhouse store, is using the wrong number typography. Sewn on numbers, red over navy, and certainly close to the real thing, but not quite right. #$%&!

Anyone notice that the Chiefs were wearing AFL logo patches on their jerseys tonight? I don’t remember ever seeing that before.

[quote comment=”133381″]Anyone notice that the Chiefs were wearing AFL logo patches on their jerseys tonight? I don’t remember ever seeing that before.[/quote]

It’s the memorial patch for Lamar Hunt.

P.S. Sorry if it was already mentioned…

[quote comment=”133372″]Here’s a blow-up look of Edmonton’s new jersey (lotta white): link

Ugh. I’m desperately hoping the piping is just for placement to help the developers.

But there’s not much hope, is there?

[quote comment=”133176″]

The Disney-era Angels uniforms really grew on me. I initially despised them, especially since they came immediately after the absolutely perfect “CA” caps and uniforms of the early-mid 1990s.

Just my two cents…[/quote]

I often defend the old A-wing uniforms to other Halo fans, as I thought they were kinda cool. Those mid 90’s interlocking CA uniforms were and are my all-time favorite for the Angels, though.

[quote comment=”133321″]I feel like the Islanders jersey is so close to great yet so very, very far. Ignoring the crappy quality of my editing, isn’t link much better than link? All they had to do is take out that awful piping at the top, and not make the sleeves so orange. It literally took me 3 minutes to do that.[/quote]

The coloring in that top panel on the arms and ditching the piping only gets us halfway. They also would need to:
#1 – link.
#2 – restore the link

In fact, All you have to do, is show Reebok that Bossy picture, and say “make THAT, only without the stripe on the pants.”

I do like the string collar. While “unnecessary, it is a traditional, throwback look and makes the NHL logo seem less obtrusive.

as an Islanders fan, I should be more pissed about the jerseys. But pretty much every decision since trading Glen Healy has been a disaster, so I’m kinda numb to it. If they can trade Roberto Luongo for Oleg Kvasha, fashion sense never had a shot in hell of making our roster.

continued unnecessary study of texas minor league teams…

Ft Worth Cats..no star present

Bay Area Toros: no star, but they do feature the ubiqutious bull_or steer, or longhorn..etc)

Lewisville Lizards: no star present

Tarrant County Blue Thunder: no star

Amarillo Dillas(which is a horrifically bad name): No star

Edinburgh Coyotes: Star(very small)in team logo

Laredo Broncos and Rio Grande Valley White Wings: no stars

The new Isles jerseys look like cheap fake versions of their traditionals ones that somebody’s mom would buy them at sears in sixth grade.

[quote comment=”133387″]Just a random tidbit, but after looking at a video today I realized link wears real stirrups[/quote]

…..and they are awesome!!! I’ve always dug the yellow sanis and green stirrups look.

[quote comment=”133037″][quote comment=”132999″]In the first Charger/Halloween picture, the cheerleader on the left is wearing the Swiss flag, not the Red cross symbol.[/quote]

I’ve never heard of a cheerleader being neutral but anyway here’s a pic of the Vikings cheerleaders last link

First, where can I get one of Scott M.X. Turner’s Russian Baseball Hats? The winged version was awesome.

Second, I believe that link is a much more realistic picture of the Vikings’ cheerleaders.

great column on the Protos. one other note on the Seahawks’ never-worn silver helmets… they had originally planned to wear both versions, with the loser of the fan vote being an alternate, but the No Fun League nixed it. they let Miami wear construction-crew tops but the Hawks can’t run out a silver helmet? psshaw.

link

Slight jersey tweaks for Pitt football this year.