Houston, We Have No Problem Whatsoever

man those brazilians have some crazy uniforms but that baseball one is just… well… its bad.

I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?

I can tell you why jackets were worn in the Astrodome: It was cold in there. It might have been 105 degrees outside, but a person could freeze to death in that place.

WOW! My first shout-out on a Uniwatch entry. I’m honored. Thanks Paul!

According to their website,the Chicago Fire are having a Turn Back The Clock night on Aug. 25. I cant find any info on if they are wearing throwback unis.

Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

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[quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

link

could be a typo to mean texas tech…

Boy, was it great seeing those Astros baseball cards! I wish every team had a section like that on their websites.

I collected baseball cards back in the early 70’s as a teen, and it was great to see those classy 1971 cards, as well as my favorite set, the gaudy, eyeball-burning 1972.

Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like linkwith a costume store helmet.

[quote comment=”120583″]I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?[/quote]

Currently no

[quote comment=”120603″]For Anthony Giaconne – on your flikr comment, you say the following: To hear Bob Shepard announce, “Now batting… Number fifteen… Catcher… Thurman Munson… Number fifteen…” was a tremendous moment for me.

Wouldn’t Bob Sheppard have said something more along the lines of “Now batting…(snip)…Munson” (i.e., without the first name?) I was under the impression that Bob doesn’t use player’s first names in his intros…

ed[/quote]

In the first plate appearance he says the full name, number and position. (ie. “Now batting for the Yankees, the shortstop, Derek Jeter … No. 2.”.

Then in every subsequent plate appearance he merely says that last name and number (If I recall correctly.).

part of me died when I clicked on that Bob Feller link. Total bumout.

[quote comment=”120607″][quote comment=”120583″]I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?[/quote]

Currently no[/quote]

i think it was discussed that this guy was the lowest weve seen in mlb…
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[quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

link

They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

interesting variation used above of adidas’ impossible is nothing slogan. quite clever here…

Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks

[quote comment=”120610″]Then in every subsequent plate appearance he merely says that last name and number (If I recall correctly.).[/quote]

Ah….thanks!

ed

[quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

link

They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

I was wondering the same thing. Texas Tech isnt it either. They changed to link last season.

[quote comment=”120621″][quote comment=”120620″]Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks[/quote]

The Vikings’ helmets were revised slightly for the 2006 season, so that redesign might be what the website it referencing as being new.[/quote]

Was this the website you were visiting?

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[quote comment=”120621″][quote comment=”120620″]Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks[/quote]

The Vikings’ helmets were revised slightly for the 2006 season, so that redesign might be what the website it referencing as being new.[/quote]
The redeesign added some subtle marks to make the horns look 3-d. It was the only change to their look that I liked.

From link picture it looks like Texas A&M was a NIKE school before Texas was. So, it is completely possible that Texas is an adidas school as well.

You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.

[quote comment=”120601″]I know this goes against every thing that is holy…

I like the Montreal logo with orange.

Now I feel dirty.[/quote]

Wow… I didn’t know this dumb little project of mine would actually bring on praise. With Montreal, Calgary, and New Jersey from last night, that makes 3 teams so far that people actually like with the orange. Maybe I didn’t make some of them ugly enough…

Then I look at link, and I feel validated in ugly. It looks like a crab. Nevertheless, thanks Paul.

[quote comment=”120636″][quote comment=”120601″]I know this goes against every thing that is holy…

I like the Montreal logo with orange.

Now I feel dirty.[/quote]

Wow… I didn’t know this dumb little project of mine would actually bring on praise. With Montreal, Calgary, and New Jersey from last night, that makes 3 teams so far that people actually like with the orange. Maybe I didn’t make some of them ugly enough…

Then I look at link, and I feel validated in ugly. It looks like a crab. Nevertheless, thanks Paul.[/quote]
Forget adding orange to the team logos, bring orange back to the NHL logo.

Regarding the “All-orange NHL” idea… I don’t think it looks that bad on the Flames (where it’s actually kind of appropriate), Blues (it’s close enough to the original yellow that it’s not that big of a deal, or – in my opinion – the Kings. In fact I think it makes that crown snap a bit more.

[quote comment=”120639″][quote comment=”120605″]Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like linkwith a costume store helmet.[/quote]
This subject reminds me that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name.[/quote]

I heard long ago that the Astros were the first and only team to be named after their stadium. In other words, the Astrodome was so named first, and the team’s name-change followed. I have never researched whether this is true, but it makes for a good story.

[quote comment=”120598″]Regarding the Oh My God with the Astros and Pirates, i love that picture … there is no doubt who is playing.[/quote]
nah, you need the Pirates wearing their awful yellow pinstripes (either top or bottom, matched with the yellow)for the complete retina-burning effect. Precious few things made the Astros ‘Tequilla Sunrise’ uniform look staid, but the Pirates did.

annotated my uni number

#56

My God, link is a thing of beauty. I had forgotten the Giants wore these in an exhibition game against the A’s many years ago.

I had also forgotten how high Will Clark used to wear his belt. That thing is almost to his nipples.

Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.

I’d love to comment on my membership card, but I don’t see it up in the gallery.

[quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.

[quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.

Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
Or are they good because they are good?

I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues!

[quote comment=”120672″]
… also another recent uniwatch topic, the question of who would buy those hideous allstar jerseys, I did spot one guy wearing that orange Ortiz jersey.[/quote]

I saw a guy wearing a Carl Crawford all-star jersey at a Rays/Yankees game last week. My son’s remark: “Who would spend money on that ugly thing?” My answer: “That guy!”

Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
link

The Rainbow Guys jerseys are popular because they were the first to really go against the link by using link and looking totally different than the uniforms that were being used and were used before.

The Canon blurb is really funny to me (as a photographer) because so many sports photographers are walking Canon billboards, with those huge white lenses that are Canon’s signature. I don’t have any sort of statistics, but I’d be willing to guess most sports photographers favor Canon over Nikon, so having an additional Canon logo shouldn’t be a big deal. That guy is making a mountain out of a molehill

I looked it up and Wayne Gomes in 2001 was the pitcher who wore number 2 for the Giants.

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[quote comment=”120681″][quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

Right, Chipper is taller.[/quote]

Please people, his name is link

[quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

Great analogy BCrisp – I think their great b/c they are terrible – much like “Point Break” – “I am an F-B-I agent!”

I don’t get why link are calling link a fuck up

Guess they didn’t make size link back then

[quote comment=”120590″]According to their website,the Chicago Fire are having a Turn Back The Clock night on Aug. 25. I cant find any info on if they are wearing throwback unis.[/quote]

not much of a throwback, since they are only a few years old. My guess either the chicago flag tops, or go old school chicago sting.

Yogi may just be the most-beloved Yankee ever, especially if you count non-Yankee fans! How could anyone not like Yogi Berra?

I have to mention one Yogiism that I haven’t been able to verify or disprove:

During an Old Timers Day appearance at The Stadium, the honorees were lined up along the infield. Then attention went to the scoreboard where deceased Yankee greats were named and pictured, as the crowd cheered wildly, and sobbed a little.

Yogi is supposed to have said to the next guy,

“Gee, I hope I never see my name up there.”

[quote comment=”120612″]part of me died when I clicked on that Bob Feller link. Total bumout.[/quote]
Reminds me of a story I was told about Feller a few years ago. My cousin was a producer for ESPN in the mid ’90s, and he worked with Feller on a piece for SportsCenter. After they’d finished, he asked Feller to autograph a baseball. Feller said he only signed autographs for a fee, and if he wanted “HOF” added to the autograph, that would be extra. My cousin politely declined.

[quote comment=”120681″][quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

Right, Chipper is taller.[/quote]

The Giles brothers bat #1 and #2 in the Padres lineup, and neither one has an initial on his jersey.

I was hoping the Niners would do better this year, but now I’m a little link

[quote comment=”120711″][quote comment=”120681″][quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

Right, Chipper is taller.[/quote]

Please people, his name is link[/quote]

I doubt anyone would know who you were talking about if you said Larry Jones, kind of like Joey Belle. He also used to get heckled by fans chanting Larry, so I’m not even sure he likes the name Larry.

[quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.

[quote comment=”120743″][quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.[/quote]

Someone on this board has to have a copy of the Houston Astros Media Guide. I would guess that the answer would be somewhere in there……

[quote comment=”120749″][quote comment=”120743″][quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.[/quote]

Someone on this board has to have a copy of the Houston Astros Media Guide. I would guess that the answer would be somewhere in there……[/quote]

The Astros were never named the Astronauts. The owner decided to name them the Astros because he feared that newspaper headlines would just shorten “Astronauts” to “Astros”.
His fears were well founded as now headlines call them ‘Stros.

[quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]
I know that, but you see a lot of Biggio tequila sunrise jerseys. His rookie year was the first year without the sunrise.

I did find link showing Bags and Biggio in Paul’s favorite Astros throwback.

[quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
link[/quote]

I’m kinda jealous. Those Villa unis look great, I just wish West Ham had Nike jerseys instead.

But that’s a great change from Hummel to Nike. Get rid of those awful Hummel ‘V’ things down the side and replace em with a nice, simple, traditional look.

Why can’t all of Nike’s uni design crews do as well as the soccer crews do? Nike Soccer has been on fire the last couple years.

[quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the link, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]
Oh, sweet Jesus…

Here’s the NHL 08 cover featuring Carolina’s new jersey’s:
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[quote comment=”120774″][quote comment=”120585″]I guess orange is the new red. or black. or teal.[/quote]

You know… I was going to email Paul about this, but I’ll just post here.

This would be an excellent subject of an article or blog entry. (Maybe Paul’s done it already?)

A short history of color trends in sports (or one sport). When I say trends, I mean it crosses the threshold where many teams use the color even when it is not their primary color (and even clashes).

Examples from baseball would be:

Powder blues in the 70s-80s
Black in the 90s
Red (maybe?) now?
Teal was big in many sports in the 90s

The key would be to detail who started it, who did it well, and who executed it poorly/should never have tried it.[/quote]
File link under ‘Should Never Have Tried It’

Heres what the capitals jerseys could look like in action

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The Astros were NEVER officially the Astronauts.

Judge Roy Hofheinz, the legendary original owner of the Houston Baseball Club, deliberately named the team the Astros, because “Astronauts” was too long to fit on a newspaper headline. He did not want the club nickname shortened by a copywriter.

They were never the Astronauts. Of course, the copywriters routinely shorten the club nickname to ‘Stros, so Hofheinz’s intention was thwarted, anyway.

This picture about a guy seeing a Redskins Jeff George jersey in Europe is priceless……

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[quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
link[/quote]

They also released their away kit, which proves that pinstripe football kits can be done.

link,,10265~1074481,00.html

On the National Orange League poster: The Penguins, Devils, Flames, Blackhawks, and Oilers actually look pretty good with some orange in their logo. The rest are just weird, but those five it works for just nicely.

[quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why link are calling link a up
[/quote]

You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Up” now.[/quote]

I’m not saying that fantasy baseball isn’t important, but if it’s that important to you that you have to rip a guy for being hurt or not pitching well, you may be a little obsessive about FANTASY baseball. I can’t stress the FANTASY part of that enough.

How do you think the A’s feel? They’re the team that is paying him. If he’s on your fantasy baseball team, you have to know the risks when taking him. Do your homework next time. It is, after all, YOUR FANTASY baseball team.

After watching the NFL Network’s “Americas Game” I have decided that 1994 was the beginning of the end for NFL uniforms. They wore the throwbacks and then everyone started to change their design (Bucaneers, Falcons, Lions, Seahawks and more recently the Vikings, Cardinals). The 49ers had some of the sharpest unis out there pre ’94 as well as the Cowboys but now they both just look cheap. Then add in the “half stripes” on the sleeves or shoulders that several teams showcase these days….makes me appreciate classic unis like the Packers and Bears

[quote comment=”120799″]On the National Orange League poster: The Penguins, Devils, Flames, Blackhawks, and Oilers actually look pretty good with some orange in their logo. The rest are just weird, but those five it works for just nicely.[/quote]

The blackhawks looks good with orange since its always had orange, one feather is always orange.

[quote comment=”120770″][quote comment=”120760″][quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…[/quote]
They last wore them on August 3, 2006
link[/quote]

Here’s another one for you James P.

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[quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.

[quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

Hear hear!!!
– from an almost former Islanders fan.

[quote comment=”120698″]Like someone said earlier, the Astrodome could get quite chilly even in the middle of summer. I used to take a sweatshirt to games, and usually had it on by the 5th or 6th inning.[/quote]

Texans apparently revel in cranking up the AC, I guess “because they can.” I’ve lived lots of places with hot summers, but only when I lived in Austin did I have to always remember to take a jacket when I went to the movies in summer.

“The Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s”

Any coincidence that the expansion Astros, Padres and Expos all seemed to make a clean start in those hippy-dippy 60s and polychromic polyester 70s, then later went to pinstripes and other faux traditions which they didn’t have?

[quote comment=”120822″][quote comment=”120820″][quote comment=”120819″][quote comment=”120770″][quote comment=”120760″][quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…[/quote]
They last wore them on August 3, 2006
link[/quote]

Here’s another one for you James P.

link

eric munson hit the longest homerun that i’ve ever seen in person.[/quote]

Garner has some experience wearing the rainbow jerseys for the Astros: link

Dare I say his mustache in his playing days was even fuller than it is now?[/quote]

Garner did graduate from the Charlie Finley school of mustache growth, dontcha know.

[quote comment=”120835″][quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

The fact that the Isles only wore them for one season never allowed them to be appreciated as much as the Astros’ uniforms were/are. If they had survived the length of time that the Astros’ Rainbow Brites had, I’m guaranteeing you that people would look more fondly on them.

While I’m not saying that the Islanders’ jerseys were better (I appreciate the old Astros uniforms), I simply was relating the eyesore-ness of the Astros innovative design to the Islanders innovative design. They both went against the grain of what was considered traditional and contemporary, and now one is considered a “throwback” while the other is considered a “throw-away”?

While it’s true that I appreciate the Fisherman jerseys more than the average person, if the Islanders had worn it for 10-15 seasons, it would have been accepted as commonplace, much like the Astros’ uniforms have been accepted.[/quote]

actually the isles wore them for three years, 1995-1998, and people kept screaming to get rid of the fisherman logo, so they had the wave jerseys with the circle logo, and eventually they just said “screw it, we’re not winning, there’s too many jokes about fish sticks, let’s go back to the old jerseys”

[quote comment=”120835″][quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

The fact that the Isles only wore them for one season never allowed them to be appreciated as much as the Astros’ uniforms were/are. If they had survived the length of time that the Astros’ Rainbow Brites had, I’m guaranteeing you that people would look more fondly on them.

While I’m not saying that the Islanders’ jerseys were better (I appreciate the old Astros uniforms), I simply was relating the eyesore-ness of the Astros innovative design to the Islanders innovative design. They both went against the grain of what was considered traditional and contemporary, and now one is considered a “throwback” while the other is considered a “throw-away”?

While it’s true that I appreciate the Fisherman jerseys more than the average person, if the Islanders had worn it for 10-15 seasons, it would have been accepted as commonplace, much like the Astros’ uniforms have been accepted.[/quote]

That’s a legitimate point in your first paragraph that I had admittedly not considered.

That being said, the uniforms differ stylistically in that the Astros, in choosing yellow, orange, and red were following the trend in uniform and overall design toward bright and earth tone colors that was seen in the mid 1970s.

Witness the Padres: link

and the Pirates: link

So the Astros uniforms were fitting into an overall design aesthetic that was considered fashionable at the time but now is looked upon with amusement or even bewilderment.

The Islanders jerseys, as best as I can tell, were not following any particular design or color trend (though I am not an expert on hockey uniforms like you are, so feel free to pick apart the assertion). I do find them endearing however. Perhaps even moreso since they were around only a brief time.

[quote comment=”120769″][quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the link, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]
Oh, sweet Jesus…[/quote]

In light of these, I see little reason to apologize for any linkever again. Even these.

[quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

That brings up an interesting question that I wish I had the answer to (not being alive yet in the 70s, I am ill equipped to try to answer it anyway). What did people think of the Astros, Pirates, Padres, etc uniforms when they first came out?

[quote comment=”120845″]
The Islanders jerseys, as best as I can tell, were not following any particular design or color trend (though I am not an expert on hockey uniforms like you are, so feel free to pick apart the assertion). I do find them endearing however. Perhaps even moreso since they were around only a brief time.[/quote]

I won’t pick it apart, Matthew. The discussion is great! :o)

The Islanders did try to incorporate their navy blue, white, and orange colours in their colour scheme, but they added teal. They did pick up on the trend that San Jose started.

John B.: The Fisherman was worn for one season and a bit only. The Isles went back to their traditional logo during the 1996-97 season. They kept the wave pattern on their jerseys until the 1998-99 season, but the Fisherman was retired after only one year and a few months.

[quote comment=”120850″][quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

That brings up an interesting question that I wish I had the answer to (not being alive yet in the 70s, I am ill equipped to try to answer it anyway). What did people think of the Astros, Pirates, Padres, etc uniforms when they first came out?[/quote]
Trust me, everything was hideous looking in the ’70s. The uniforms fit right in. Even teams with classy looks (Cubs, Giants, Braves, Indians) jumped on the garish bandwagon.

I loved the Astros in the 70s because of their uniforms.

[quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.

[quote comment=”120743″][quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.[/quote]

Call me crazy (or stupid), but I always thought Astros was short for Astronomicals. But that could have just been a Marty Brennaman-ism.

[quote comment=”120767″][quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
link[/quote]

I’m kinda jealous. Those Villa unis look great, I just wish West Ham had Nike jerseys instead.

But that’s a great change from Hummel to Nike. Get rid of those awful Hummel ‘V’ things down the side and replace em with a nice, simple, traditional look.

Why can’t all of Nike’s uni design crews do as well as the soccer crews do? Nike Soccer has been on fire the last couple years.[/quote]

I had no idea that those chevrons were Hummel logo creep. I like them so much less now. I just thought they were kind of a fun design flourish.

[quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

I don’t think anyone considers the Astros jerseys good, they are just nostalgic.

link Picture it with buttons.

[quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

And also, when teams wears jerseys for a while, people can attach fond memories and eras to the jersey…then making the design better in the minds of people in the future. For example, the Sonics Space Needle jerseys of the mid-late 90’s…not a good jersey, but they went to the Finals in 96…so I actually like that jersey since it reminds me of those days.

The Astros dugout jackets are actually a light wool, acrylic sweater. In the late 1980’s they actually applied twill lettering to the backs.

[quote comment=”120710″][quote comment=”120692″][quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

link

They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

Did Michigan go to Adidas?[/quote]

Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools[/quote]
Don’t forget about Wisconsin. They are an all Adidas school. Adidas may not consider them “marquee”… but their performance on the field speaks for itself.

It seems that someone at work decided to play a joke on me.

All previous statements by “Paris” were actually from good ‘ole Shaftman. (didn’t realize that someone switched the name on me)

[quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

link

The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like link or link?

[quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

link

The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like link or link?[/quote]

Was the Astros built only for the Astros with the Oilers coming later, or did they both move in at the same time?

[quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

link

The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like link or link?[/quote]

Sorry I don’t see it.

And it’s only the Astros, Comets, and Rockets (as opposed to the Dynamo (MLS), Texans, and Oilers). And actually the Rockets nickname predates the team’s move to Houston and so is a more of a coincidence than a nod to the space industry in and around Houston.

San Diego Rockets jersey: link

oops, wrong link

link

[quote comment=”120905″][quote comment=”120895″][quote comment=”120891″]I have nothing on the NBA jerseys. I don’t follow the NBA at all. :o)[/quote]

Yes, but surely you can identify what’s ugly and what isn’t. You need no knowledge of the sport to realize that this: link

is better than this: link

Frankly, I think the first is boring and plain. The second’s logo is stupid, and the red panels are dumb, but the pinstripes are better.[/quote]

pinstripes belong only in Baseball

and they dont flatter Barkley at all

[quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

because the astros weren’t stealing a fish companys logo as their own ;)

[quote comment=”120900″][quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

link

The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like link or link?[/quote]

Sorry I don’t see it.

And it’s only the Astros, Comets, and Rockets (as opposed to the Dynamo (MLS), Texans, and Oilers). And actually the Rockets nickname predates the team’s move to Houston and so is a more of a coincidence than a nod to the space industry in and around Houston.

San Diego Rockets jersey: link

Until 1836/Dynamo and Texans came along recently, the Oilers were the only standouts. Trust me, if Les Alexander wanted to rename the Rockets, he would have…

[quote comment=”120914″][quote comment=”120900″][quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

link

The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like link or link?[/quote]

Sorry I don’t see it.

And it’s only the Astros, Comets, and Rockets (as opposed to the Dynamo (MLS), Texans, and Oilers). And actually the Rockets nickname predates the team’s move to Houston and so is a more of a coincidence than a nod to the space industry in and around Houston.

San Diego Rockets jersey: link

Until 1836/Dynamo and Texans came along recently, the Oilers were the only standouts. Trust me, if Les Alexander wanted to rename the Rockets, he would have…[/quote]

Good point. Though by the time Les Alexander bought the team in 1991 or so, the Rockets had been in Houston for 20+ years. If any change in name was going to happen, it would’ve been when the team moved from San Diego. And now that I’ve searched my memory a little more, I think I recall reading that the San Diego (later Houston) Rockets were originally named because San Diego was a center of atlas or saturn rocket construction for NASA when the team came into being.

How is link worse than link? Seriously?

[quote comment=”120921″][quote comment=”120920″]How is link worse than link? Seriously?[/quote]

I don’t think it is worse. But then I absolutely despised that Rockets logo.[/quote]

I agree…they are equally hideous.

[quote comment=”120919″][quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the link, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]

I like how Bert Roberge is wearing the Astros’ cap, while everyone else is wearing the cheesy mesh Toros trucker hat.[/quote]

Cheesy? No way, the trucker hats rock!

[quote comment=”120920″]How is link worse than link? Seriously?[/quote]

No contest, Teebz! As I have said before… it was a contest and the face on the rocket (which I in the minority really liked) was a nod to another Houston team (The Aeros which had the face on the old war plane) – which makes that two standouts if the IHL counts. And I guess it kind of has to count… since Gordie Howe has his jersey in the rafters. And if it counts… then you have the Houston Apollos too. As fasr as the rockets, it was the stripes that made those unis bad, not the logo! ;)

[quote comment=”120890″][quote comment=”120710″][quote comment=”120692″][quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

link

They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

Did Michigan go to Adidas?[/quote]

Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools[/quote]
Don’t forget about Wisconsin. They are an all Adidas school. Adidas may not consider them “marquee”… but their performance on the field speaks for itself.[/quote]

Isn’t Northwestern an Adidas school as well? I can understand them being omitted from the blog since their primary color is purple (which I, myself have no problem with–kinda like them actually).

[quote comment=”120954″]am i the only one who kinda-sorta likes the fisherman logo? i’ve always thought a great logo shows a picture of the team name, shows what sport it is, and maybe deals with some heritage of the city with the logo, and looks tough in some way.

that’s why i love the pats old logo so much, a colonial soldier snapping a football…it represents everything it should

i mean, what is an islander? it’s a fisherman, one of those real hardcore old salt types. he has a hockey stick and is in front of a net, so the sport is there…now maybe if it didn’t look so much like the gorton’s fisherman, it’d be much more accepted, but i think as a logo, it’s pretty great

…now the wave jersey, on the other hand…[/quote]

Correct, I think it stems with the Gorton fisherman… and the colors don’t hurt. Otherwise, your points are all good. My main preference that it shows some type of city heritage… pretty much why I hate the naming of stadiums after companies so much.

[quote comment=”120956″][quote comment=”120954″]am i the only one who kinda-sorta likes the fisherman logo? i’ve always thought a great logo shows a picture of the team name, shows what sport it is, and maybe deals with some heritage of the city with the logo, and looks tough in some way.

that’s why i love the pats old logo so much, a colonial soldier snapping a football…it represents everything it should

i mean, what is an islander? it’s a fisherman, one of those real hardcore old salt types. he has a hockey stick and is in front of a net, so the sport is there…now maybe if it didn’t look so much like the gorton’s fisherman, it’d be much more accepted, but i think as a logo, it’s pretty great

…now the wave jersey, on the other hand…[/quote]

Correct, I think it stems with the Gorton fisherman… and the colors don’t hurt. Otherwise, your points are all good. My main preference that it shows some type of city heritage… pretty much why I hate the naming of stadiums after companies so much.[/quote]

I disliked the fisherman sweaters for a few reasons.

1) The colors of the islanders were Blue/Orange for the color off Nassuau County. I didn’t like the addition of the teal because it was merely going after the “cool” factor.

2) The original logo was/is perfect, don’t screw with a good thing.

3) It was just too busy (the same reason I don’t really care for their orange alternates)

I did like the link design they made for it and would not mind if they took out the teal and incorporated it into the current uni’s (because the lighthouse is a very good representation for the Island).

[quote comment=”120850″][quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

That brings up an interesting question that I wish I had the answer to (not being alive yet in the 70s, I am ill equipped to try to answer it anyway). What did people think of the Astros, Pirates, Padres, etc uniforms when they first came out?[/quote]

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I thought the wild and crazy look was hideous from day 1 (by which I guess I mean the green-and-gold A’s, ca. 1965 or so). But then, I’ve always been conservative when it comes to baseball uniforms (if not politics). I didn’t like pullover jerseys, powder blue roadies, stretch waistbands instead of belts, or any other 70s uniform innovation either. I loved it when teams started going back to the traditional look in the 90s.

[quote comment=”120899″]are link considered sheik or cool? i hope not[/quote]

Link didn’t work. And the word you want is “chic,” which most sheiks definitely are not. :-)

[quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in link, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… link.[/quote]

OK, it’s kind of scary, but most of those look good. I don’t hate any of those.

[quote comment=”120983″][quote comment=”120981″][quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in link, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… link.[/quote]

OK, it’s kind of scary, but most of those look good. I don’t hate any of those.[/quote]

Damnit…..![/quote]

I’m not saying any team should switch to that, just that they don’t look bad.

[quote comment=”120975″][quote comment=”120899″]are link considered sheik or cool? i hope not[/quote]

Link didn’t work. And the word you want is “chic,” which most sheiks definitely are not. :-)[/quote]

i posted the correct link

comment 177

OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987″ > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)

thats not even the worst Toros jersey. Look at the middle of this page for the 1980 version!
link…

There goes my lunch … :-DDD Thanks.

And on the player card page (link
+Other + Card Gallery + 1975(Topps), what’s the deal with Jose Cruz’s CAP LOGO? They all look somewhat different but his is just deranged …

[quote comment=”120710″][quote comment=”120692″][quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

link

They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

Did Michigan go to Adidas?[/quote]

Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools[/quote]

UCLA is also one of those marquee Adidas schools.

Don’t know if it’s been posted, but here is the 2008 NBA All Star logo

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Why do base coaches wear numbers under 60 in baseball? Much was made on the Cubs’ broadcast tonight about Mike Quade giving up his number 18 so that Jason Kendall could wear it. But if bullpen catchers are wearing numbers in the 50s and whatnot, why don’t base coaches do it too?

In the Astros-Nationals game, Washington centerfielder Nook Logan had to stop play after a Chris Burke single because his belt had broken. They immediately threw the broken one in the dugout and handed him a new one, which he put on in the infield.

[quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in link, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… link.[/quote]
Its actually quite an improvement for several teams. I’m talkin’ ’bout you, Tampa Bay and Colorado

Stuart O’Grady’s source
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[quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

The best one is the White Sox one. replacing silver with red would totally be key.

Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in link, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… link.[/quote]

The Galaxy began their game tonight in their old white uniforms but, in a scene reminiscent of Might Ducks 2, came out for the second half in link.

[quote comment=”121007″][quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why link are calling link a fuck up
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You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Fuck Up” now.[/quote]

You too, huh? At one point I had five players on the DL, including Harden, Roy Halladay and Brett Myers.[/quote]

At least he’s not supposed to be anchoring your REAL baseball team. I know that Haren has more than compensated for that, but come on.

I just played NCAA 08 from EA Sports and the jerseys look really good! I haven’t looked too closely on a team to team basis, other than Michigan State, but the details seem to be pretty well done. Player patches/equipment logos are clear and the cleats look amazing.

[quote comment=”121120″][quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in link, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… link.[/quote]

I agree with the comments above. The A’s logo kills my eyes like dead, and so do the Tigers and Padres, and I don’t care for what happens to the Dodgers and Royals logos, but it’s a tremendous upgrade, IMO, for the Giants, Rockies, and (this might get some angry replies) Mets, and a really nice nod to the past for the White Sox. For everyone other than the above mentioned, it neither improves nor detracts.[/quote]

‘Didn’t detract because half of the teams use red and blue, so the changes were minimal. But hell, just the overload of red and blue alone is as bad as making everything black and red. But, with this and the NHL thing too, it’s not really my goal to improve anything; just satirically show what can happen when a fad or a trend get taken to the extreme. So in some respects, I’d rather the logos look worse, yet it seems that some people actually like the changes I make…

link make the Tequila Sunrises decent

CSC joins wristband-wagon
Team CSC has joined the wristband bandwagon this year, but it sports an interesting slogan that isn’t raising money for a charity or some do-good organization.

“Stuart (O’Grady) brought them for the team in London and asked everyone to wear them,” said Team CSC rider Frank Schleck. “If it’s tough, we look at the wristband and we do what it says. When it gets hard, you harden up. So far it’s worked pretty good.”

Well, we know now that those bands didn’t help link