New ESPN column today, and it’s a doozy — here’s the link.
Meanwhile: Does fabric adhesive not stick as well to polyester as it does to wool? That’s the obvious question after yesterday’s Independence Day ballgames, where an unusually high number of MLB players didn’t have the little American flag cap appliqués that everyone was supposed to be wearing. A small sampling of the many, many flagless players includes Todd Jones, Jose Contreras, Orlando Hernandez, Joe Kennedy, Chris Sampson, and Miguel Cairo (center of the photo).
I suspect that many of these players began the day with a cap flag, but then it fell off. That’s what apparently happened to Tim Wakefield, who was flag-clad at the start of yesterday’s game but flag-free by the end. It’s also what happened to Junior Griffey (early, late), and it was about to happen to Tigers reliever Jason Grilli, whose flag was about to fall off when he was mercifully removed from the game.
The best flag situation involved Padres started Chris Young, whose flag began to come loose in the top of the 7th. That’s when he felt the urge to adjust his cap, causing the flag to come loose and flutter down to the ground (it appears as a blur just below Young’s ear here, and in front of the r on his jersey insignia here). Without missing a beat, Young picked it up and put it in his back pocket.
Best flag of the day: The amazing patriotic dessert that Uni Watch medieval studies chair Andrea Boffa brought to my Independence Day cookout. Tasted even better than it looked. A bit of rain eventually forced us to move indoors, where Uni Watch mascots Tucker and Caitlin were unimpressed.
(Special thanks to readers Jeff Cohen, Jim P., and the pseudonymous commenter Liberty for their cap-related contributions.)
Membership Update: Big news on the membership front, as we’re now offering NBA designs. Most teams are available (although the purple brigade is, of course, off-limits), and we’ll consider throwback requests on a case-by-case basis (hint: Scott’s particularly partial to old teams like the Syracuse Nationals and the Fort Wayne Zollner Pistons. Longtime Uni Watch antagonist/hero the Rev. Nørb has already gotten the ball rolling with this Miami Floridians treatment — or, more technically, a Miami Heat throwback design, since the Floridians didn’t have names on their jerseys — which is the most horrifically garish card we’ve created so far. (It could have been worse: Nørb originally threatened to picket outside of Uni Watch HQ if his demand for a purple-centric card wasn’t met.)
We’re now well over 200 members, incidentally. David Fetterman was the one who pushed the odometer to the double-century mark, so Scott has added a special milestone seal to the front of his card. We look forward to see who the 300th member will be.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Interesting eBay find by Robert Eden, who writes: “In the 1980s, Nebraska bought its uniforms from Russell (no freebies like today) in lots, numbered 1-99. To save money, the jerseys were blank aside from the numbers. The ‘N’ on the sleeves, and the stripes that replaced the ‘N’ in later years, were screened onto the jerseys locally. It surprises me that a big-time college football team would be taking these seemingly amateurish steps to get its game uniforms ready to go. Anyway, the jersey in this auction was never used or screen-printed. Nebraska had a few retired numbers in the ’80s (they have since been unretired), so when the school received a shipment of jerseys numbered 1-99, the equipment manager pulled out those with the retired numbers and effectively stuck them in a closet. He held onto them and now they’re being sold here and there. The jersey looks so odd with only the numbers on it.” … Member Korryn Mozisek notes that Lance Berkman now appears to have the Texas state flag on his batting gloves. … According to a thread over on the Chris Creamer boards, images from NBA Live 08 indicate that the Sixers are tweaking their black jersey and the Pacers are adding a gold alt. … Member Steve Patterson recently made some screen grabs from a DVD devoted to Broncos history. As you might expect, he provided several shots of the infamous vertically striped socks (additional views here and here), but the most interesting thing was the officials’ uniforms. I knew that AFL officials wore red and white stripes, instead of black and white, but I didn’t realize that their uni numbers were sometimes black and sometimes orange. I also didn’t know that AFL chain gangs used conventional black and white stripes. And speaking of the chain gang, check out this guy — he’s got a button-through cuff, which is something I’ve never seen before on zebra-striped jersey. Patterson adds: “The DVD also included an interview with Frank Tripuka where he’s talking about how the jerseys were all too small, so they had to cut holes in the sides for full arm movement.” … How much does Sarah Land like Orlando Hernandez’s high-cuffed look? This much: “Whenever El Duque pitches in a night game, and I am home, I whip out a pair of knee socks that I have and roll up some old sweatpants to recreate his look. I don’t sport this look, however, if there is company over, so I don’t want to submit a picture. But let me tell you, wearing socks up and pants up feels as awesome as it looks.” … Clare Perretta reports that the Houston Chronicle recently ran what may rank as the best photo ever of Craig Biggio’s skanky helmet, plus a good shot of a rip in Lance Berkman’s pants. … Mark Swienki recently came across a great web site devoted to Sulphur Dell, the ancient Tennessee ballpark that was once home to the Nashville Vols. The site includes a dynamite photo gallery, the highlight of which is a shot of a Mobile Bears player wearing shorts. But there’s plenty of other great stuff in the gallery — highly recommended. … As some of you discovered last week, the Dressed to the Nines online exhibit recently disappeared when the Baseball Hall of Fame reconfigured its web site. But don’t fret — the exhibit is still there, but it has a new URL. Its home page is now here. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: This year’s World Series sleeve patch will apparently look like this. … Not sure if this has come up before, but here‘s a good site devoted to Manchester United’s uniform history. … A source in the Texas Rangers clubhouse checks in with the following: “Interesting streak going on right now with us, as we’ve worn the blue alternate (Cool Base) jersey 13 games in a row. Why? Nobody has really talked about it, but I would guess it has to do with the recent success of the team: 9-4 in that span. Anyway, I thought this was worthwhile because I don’t remember seeing a team doing this before. I’m intrigued to see which starting pitcher decides to break the streak. And for the record, the clubhouse staff is all for it as it means less scrubbing!” … The Flyers will unveil their new uniforms on Sept. 16th (with thanks to Mike Shaw). … Not uni-related, but still of interest (thanks, Vince).
The Bridgeport Bluefish had special red uniforms they were supposed to wear for their July 4 game, until it got rained out. First problem was their opponent, the Newark Bears, was also sporting their regular red alternate jerseys. Would have been a nightmare to watch that game. Second problem was that the jerseys had a corporate sponsor from some bank.
Not an apparel question, but topical this time of year: What’s uniwatch’s ruling on the Wimbledon logo. I think the purple and green work pretty well, but time has not been kind to the font of the ‘w’ (no doubt it was great in the 70s tho).
[quote comment=”113798″]The Bridgeport Bluefish had special red uniforms they were supposed to wear for their July 4 game, until it got rained out. First problem was their opponent, the Newark Bears, was also sporting their regular red alternate jerseys. Would have been a nightmare to watch that game. Second problem was that the jerseys had a corporate sponsor from some bank.[/quote]
I was at a Lexington Legends/Ashville Tourists game a couple weeks ago and both teams were wearing navy jerseys. It was definitely strange to see. I’ve got pics at home that I can post. However, in a similar fashion to your story the game was rained out in the third. Apparently Mother Nature doesn’t like opposing teams matching anymore than we do.
The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
I was at Tuesday’s game. What’s with the odd pads Castro had strapped to his calves?
[quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
I was at Tuesday’s game. What’s with the odd pads Castro had strapped to his calves?[/quote]
Are they knee-savers?
[quote comment=”113806″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
I was at Tuesday’s game. What’s with the odd pads Castro had strapped to his calves?[/quote]
Are they knee-savers?
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[quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
I was at Tuesday’s game. What’s with the odd pads Castro had strapped to his calves?[/quote]
link are designed for the catcher to squat more comfortably and to save his legs and knees.
Re: The Texas Rangers blue alts…
Even thr friggin’ mascot (“Rangers Captain”) was in the blue jersey last night. First time I’ve seen that…
[quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?[/quote]
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years.
Wow, that’s awesome! Thanks, Paul and Scott!
How much does Sarah Land like Orlando Hernandez’s high-cuffed look? This much: “Whenever El Duque pitches in a night game, and I am home, I whip out a pair of knee socks that I have and roll up some old sweatpants to recreate his look. I don’t sport this look, however, if there is company over, so I don’t want to submit a picture. But let me tell you, wearing socks up and pants up feels as awesome as it looks.â€Â
No picture ? Oh Sarah, don’t tease us like that
Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?
[quote comment=”113808″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
I was at Tuesday’s game. What’s with the odd pads Castro had strapped to his calves?[/quote]
link are designed for the catcher to squat more comfortably and to save his legs and knees.[/quote]
I was always lead to believe that Sandy Alomar helped on creating them, but the only thing I can find in print is that he was the first to start using them.
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“The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years. ”
Well, it IS first ever, because Mets didn’t exist 50 yrs ago.
The Mobile Bears in shorts and stirrups….
talk about “getting it”.
[quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
I believe that the black with the star was for spring training and bp only, but the black with “Astros” was game used – which IMO were much sharper than the red they use now.
[quote comment=”113813″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?[/quote]
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years.[/quote]
Yes, it was the first time any team has swept the Mets and the Yankees in the same year. In 1947 (I believe), the link swept both the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers marking the last time a team has swept two New York teams in the same season.
[quote comment=”113814″]plus a good shot of a rip in Lance Berkman’s pants.[/quote]
is link wearing a #37 helmet in that pic?
[quote comment=”113800″]Not an apparel question, but topical this time of year: What’s uniwatch’s ruling on the Wimbledon logo. I think the purple and green work pretty well, but time has not been kind to the font of the ‘w’ (no doubt it was great in the 70s tho).[/quote]
that link? it is a great one. the purple and green together make for a classy combination of colors along with the wording around the rackets. it really is one of the more attractive major sports title logos (well, one that remains the same year after year anyway)
in addition, last week (or was it the week before) we discussed minor league jerseys and one was brought up that showed the oakland raiders logo on the jersey. well as i check my email this morning, i got a youtube clip of my parents neighbor and catasauqua grad anthony recker who is in the oakland a’s farm system sporting one…
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[quote comment=”113824″][quote comment=”113813″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?[/quote]
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years.[/quote]
Yes, it was the first time any team has swept the Mets and the Yankees in the same year. In 1947 (I believe), the link swept both the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers marking the last time a team has swept two New York teams in the same season.[/quote]
Yes…the Mets weren’t a team over 50 years ago.
Wow – with red already in the color scheme, the AAA Rochester Redwings wouldn’t have had to stretch too much for 4th of July jerseys. But link are really bad.
[quote comment=”113824″][quote comment=”113813″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?[/quote]
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years.[/quote]
Yes, it was the first time any team has swept the Mets and the Yankees in the same year. In 1947 (I believe), the link swept both the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers marking the last time a team has swept two New York teams in the same season.[/quote]
Not quite… 1963. LA Dodgers sweep the Mets 5/19 – 5/22, sweep the Yankees 4 games to none in the World Series.
My, oh my, would those new World Series patches look good on the Brewers retro jerseys. Coincidence… I think not.
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Discovery Channel will add more green to their kits in the tour de france to push a new “green” initiative. Also look for the new Giro Iono’s helmet.
[quote comment=”113824″][quote comment=”113813″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?[/quote]
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years.[/quote]
Yes, it was the first time any team has swept the Mets and the Yankees in the same year. In 1947 (I believe), the link swept both the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers marking the last time a team has swept two New York teams in the same season.[/quote]
If you’d like to be technical about it, the Los Angeles Dodgers swept the Mets during the 1963 season and then swept the Yankees in the World Series . . . a loophole, I know . . .
What are the teams in this AFL picture that Paul linked to earlier?
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The player with the ball seems to be wearing a KC Chiefs helmet with the logo facing the wrong direction, but the uniform is red, white and black. The opposing team is in all red and looks like the typical Chiefs uniform that is still worn today.
Was that a scrimage or what?
While I do not recall any team wearing specific uniforms or components during a particular consecutive games streak for wins like Rangers mentioned in today’s blog entry, I do remember something akin to this. Back in the early 1990s when Ben “Big Ben” McDonald pitched for the Baltimore Orioles, there was a period where he requested (and the Orioles honored the request)that the team wear the black, v-neck pullover jerseys for his starts. As I recall, they did so for the better part of a season or two until Ben went to the Brewers…
I meant link.
The one with the rackets is nice — I wonder why they have the modern alt logo as well?
Any word on the new design of the Flyers’ unis?
I’m guessing it’ll be a subtle change to accomodate the new style of uniforms across the NHL…
[quote comment=”113839″]While I do not recall any team wearing specific uniforms or components during a particular consecutive games streak for wins like Rangers mentioned in today’s blog entry, I do remember something akin to this. Back in the early 1990s when Ben “Big Ben” McDonald pitched for the Baltimore Orioles, there was a period where he requested (and the Orioles honored the request)that the team wear the black, v-neck pullover jerseys for his starts. As I recall, they did so for the better part of a season or two until Ben went to the Brewers…[/quote]
I think lots of pitchers do that. Carlos Zambrano always had the Cubs wear blue, until the blue alt was phased out this season.
[quote comment=”113833″]My, oh my, would those new World Series patches look good on the Brewers retro jerseys. Coincidence… I think not.
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Yes, it would. Which means, if the Brewers make the Series, they’ll have to wear the throwbacks every single game at Miller Park, which would be just fine with me….
[quote comment=”113835″][quote comment=”113824″][quote comment=”113813″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?[/quote]
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years.[/quote]
Yes, it was the first time any team has swept the Mets and the Yankees in the same year. In 1947 (I believe), the link swept both the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers marking the last time a team has swept two New York teams in the same season.[/quote]
If you’d like to be technical about it, the Los Angeles Dodgers swept the Mets during the 1963 season and then swept the Yankees in the World Series . . . a loophole, I know . . .[/quote]
Not a loophole at all. Well played.
I will change my statement to “the last time that a team swept two New York teams in the Regular Season was blah blah blah…” (see above)
I was at the Nationals Cubs game yesterday and saw the Nats LF, Robert Fink not only wearing his socks high, he was definately wearing stirrups. I do not know if these were real, or fake, but they were most certainly a darker color than the other two Nats who wore their socks up.
Later, I was at a function with the Nats Racing Presidents and noticed something odd on their jerseys. They wear the jerseys when doing events, but normally wear their regular clothes.
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Anyway, George Washington wears number 1, Jefferson, 3, Lincoln, 16 and Teddy Roosevelt, 26. The odd part is they are sponsored by Geico and wear a special gecko patch on their left arms. Photo to follow….
I thought I read somewhere (ambiguous enough?) that the Mets starting pitcher gets to pick the uni set the team will wear for that game.
[quote comment=”113838″]What are the teams in this AFL picture that Paul linked to earlier?
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The player with the ball seems to be wearing a KC Chiefs helmet with the logo facing the wrong direction, but the uniform is red, white and black. The opposing team is in all red and looks like the typical Chiefs uniform that is still worn today.
Was that a scrimage or what?[/quote]
That’s the Chiefs and link (with their awful “sick horse” helmet logo).
The Chiefs player is in motion, I can’t tell that his helmet logo is backwards.
Did anyone notice Nick Swisher’s American flag wrist tape yesterday? I saw it on MLB Extra innings, but I couldn’t find a picture.
[quote comment=”113849″]Anyway, George Washington wears number 1, Jefferson, 3, Lincoln, 16 and Teddy Roosevelt, 26. The odd part is they are sponsored by Geico and wear a special gecko patch on their left arms. Photo to follow….[/quote]
No doubt the numbers correspond with which number president they are (JFK would wear 35, Clinton would be 42, “W” would be 43).
[quote comment=”113847″][quote comment=”113833″]My, oh my, would those new World Series patches look good on the Brewers retro jerseys. Coincidence… I think not.
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Yes, it would. Which means, if the Brewers make the Series, they’ll have to wear the throwbacks every single game at Miller Park, which would be just fine with me….[/quote]
Where would they put the patch? The Brewers already have patches on both sleeves
[quote comment=”113848″][quote comment=”113835″][quote comment=”113824″][quote comment=”113813″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?[/quote]
Not the first ever… first in over 50 years.[/quote]
Yes, it was the first time any team has swept the Mets and the Yankees in the same year. In 1947 (I believe), the link swept both the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers marking the last time a team has swept two New York teams in the same season.[/quote]
If you’d like to be technical about it, the Los Angeles Dodgers swept the Mets during the 1963 season and then swept the Yankees in the World Series . . . a loophole, I know . . .[/quote]
Not a loophole at all. Well played.
I will change my statement to “the last time that a team swept two New York teams in the Regular Season was blah blah blah…” (see above)[/quote]
If we’re looking at it loopholishly, I did say Mets and Yankees and “in the same season”, rather than in the same year as the WS is, after all, post-season.
Thanks to Shaftman for the info on Castro’s odd calf-pads.
[quote comment=”113849″]I was at the Nationals Cubs game yesterday and saw the Nats LF, Robert Fink not only wearing his socks high, he was definately wearing stirrups. I do not know if these were real, or fake, but they were most certainly a darker color than the other two Nats who wore their socks up.
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Yeah, Fick has been wearing them all season. Nats pither linkhas been wearing the stirrups as well.
[quote comment=”113856″][quote comment=”113847″][quote comment=”113833″]My, oh my, would those new World Series patches look good on the Brewers retro jerseys. Coincidence… I think not.
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Yes, it would. Which means, if the Brewers make the Series, they’ll have to wear the throwbacks every single game at Miller Park, which would be just fine with me….[/quote]
Where would they put the patch? The Brewers already have patches on both sleeves[/quote]
I presume that the club won’t mind too much removing the patch celebrating the anniversary of their only pennant if they win another one.
[quote comment=”113847″][quote comment=”113833″]My, oh my, would those new World Series patches look good on the Brewers retro jerseys. Coincidence… I think not.
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Yes, it would. Which means, if the Brewers make the Series, they’ll have to wear the throwbacks every single game at Miller Park, which would be just fine with me….[/quote]
What are the rules governing alt jerseys in post-season play? I would think that teams have less control due to high visibility of these games on TV and that alts may not be able to be worn…?
Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
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[quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
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Going along with the whole “wearing uni’s for luck and starting pitcher picking the uni” discussion… I am pretty sure the last time The Crew wore their away gray’s was when they got no-hit by Verlander. On top of that, I could probably count on one hand how many times they wore them so far this season total. I remember telling myself while watching the Verlander no-hit game was, “Gosh, they never wear their gray’s anymore…I bet something bad will happen tonight.” And sure enough…
And as far as were they Brewers would put their Series patch if/when they make it there…has this happened before where a team had two patches already? Otherwise I agree with the statement that they would excuse their anniversary patch of them losing a World Series (Or winning an AL pennant) in hopes to win a Series.
The Pittsburgh Penguins have added Petr Sykora and Darryl Sydor to their roster online.
The only problem is that Sykora is listed as #71… which is Evgeni Malkin’s number. Sydor is listed as #5… which is Rob Scuderi’s number. Both Malkin and Scuderi appear on the roster as those numbers as well.
[quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.
After watching a ton of baseball yesterday, Tiger-Indians, and Padres-Marlins were my favorites. Detroit’s really got it going with their classic uni’s, ‘Cleveland’ shouldn’t be outlined in white for their roads, Padres looked good under the July California sun and the Marlins looked like a pro team. Just my 2cents.
So wait, paul wont allow purple in the membership card, yet he will allow magenta? Which is worse than purple imo.
Anyways on CCSLC someone posted a converstaion with someone in the flyers department, and they say it will be the same design.
[quote comment=”113887″][quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.[/quote]
Except for the in game clean up I agree with you. The problem with mandating that they scrub their helmet during the game is, where does it stop? If you slide, do you have to change your jersey?
Everyone should start the game in clean uni’s with clean caps, with clean helmets. What happens during the games stays.
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What are the rules governing alt jerseys in post-season play? I would think that teams have less control due to high visibility of these games on TV and that alts may not be able to be worn…?[/quote]
I’m sure people will have plenty of other examples of this, but I know that in the 2005 postseason the White Sox wore their home vest alt uniforms a few times. They never wore their black alts, but they sold versions of those with World Series patches so I’m sure it was possible (the White Sox, then and now, rarely change uniforms on a winning streak, and they only lost once in the postseason, at which point they switched from the vests to the regular home uniforms).
And in the World Series, the Astros wore their red alts. So, I really don’t think they have any rules against it.
[quote comment=”113886″]The Pittsburgh Penguins have added Petr Sykora and Darryl Sydor to their roster online.
The only problem is that Sykora is listed as #71… which is Evgeni Malkin’s number. Sydor is listed as #5… which is Rob Scuderi’s number. Both Malkin and Scuderi appear on the roster as those numbers as well.[/quote]
Sydor is almost certain to get #5 from Scuds. Sykora used to wear a number with 8 in it, didn’t he? 86 I think? I’d say Malkin probably has more pull there than Scuderi does and I’m sure Petr will respect the hot young rookie.
I’m disappointed the A’s didn’t break out their red, white and blues. I mean, it’s not like the get the opportunity every day.
[quote comment=”113872″][quote comment=”113847″][quote comment=”113833″]My, oh my, would those new World Series patches look good on the Brewers retro jerseys. Coincidence… I think not.
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Yes, it would. Which means, if the Brewers make the Series, they’ll have to wear the throwbacks every single game at Miller Park, which would be just fine with me….[/quote]
What are the rules governing alt jerseys in post-season play? I would think that teams have less control due to high visibility of these games on TV and that alts may not be able to be worn…?[/quote]
Good point. I believe the Astros wore their alts against the White Sox in 2005. I do not believe the Sox wore any alts that (rather quick!) series.
[quote comment=”113893″]I’m disappointed the A’s didn’t break out their red, white and blues. I mean, it’s not like the get the opportunity every day.[/quote]
Explain? What Red/White/Blue?
Got a photo?
[quote comment=”113891″][quote comment=”113872″]
What are the rules governing alt jerseys in post-season play? I would think that teams have less control due to high visibility of these games on TV and that alts may not be able to be worn…?[/quote]
I’m sure people will have plenty of other examples of this, but I know that in the 2005 postseason the White Sox wore their home vest alt uniforms a few times. They never wore their black alts, but they sold versions of those with World Series patches so I’m sure it was possible (the White Sox, then and now, rarely change uniforms on a winning streak, and they only lost once in the postseason, at which point they switched from the vests to the regular home uniforms).
And in the World Series, the Astros wore their red alts. So, I really don’t think they have any rules against it.[/quote]
Oops… made the same point right after you.
However… a “retro” alt… that is a different story. Don’t believe that has ever been done in the World Series (or even the playoffs in general)?
[quote comment=”113876″][quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
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Trivia question:
Which MLB team did Castro try out for……?
[quote comment=”113897″][quote comment=”113876″][quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
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Trivia question:
Which MLB team did Castro try out for……?[/quote]
It’s a myth.
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[quote comment=”113892″][quote comment=”113886″]The Pittsburgh Penguins have added Petr Sykora and Darryl Sydor to their roster online.
The only problem is that Sykora is listed as #71… which is Evgeni Malkin’s number. Sydor is listed as #5… which is Rob Scuderi’s number. Both Malkin and Scuderi appear on the roster as those numbers as well.[/quote]
Sydor is almost certain to get #5 from Scuds. Sykora used to wear a number with 8 in it, didn’t he? 86 I think? I’d say Malkin probably has more pull there than Scuderi does and I’m sure Petr will respect the hot young rookie.[/quote]
Sydor also wore #55 with Tampa Bay, but Sergei Gonchar is #55 in Steeltown. I assume if he wants #5, Sydor will have to ante up for it.
Sykora wore #17 in New Jersey and New York, and #39 in Anaheim and for the Czech Republic. Neither of Sykora’s previous numbers are worn by a Penguin.
[quote comment=”113897″][quote comment=”113876″][quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
link
link[/quote]
link[/quote]
Trivia question:
Which MLB team did Castro try out for……?[/quote]
Wasn’t it the Senators?
[quote comment=”113898″]
It’s a myth.
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Killjoy. :P
[quote comment=”113897″][quote comment=”113876″][quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
link
link[/quote]
link[/quote]
Trivia question:
Which MLB team did Castro try out for……?[/quote]
Oddly enough, the Washington Senators….
[quote comment=”113895″][quote comment=”113893″]I’m disappointed the A’s didn’t break out their red, white and blues. I mean, it’s not like the get the opportunity every day.[/quote]
Explain? What Red/White/Blue?
Got a photo?[/quote]
I’m guessing we’re talking about the Kansas City link
[quote comment=”113898″][quote comment=”113897″][quote comment=”113876″][quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
link
link[/quote]
link[/quote]
Trivia question:
Which MLB team did Castro try out for……?[/quote]
It’s a myth.
link
Winner! The correct answer is, none!
[quote comment=”113890″][quote comment=”113887″][quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.[/quote]
Except for the in game clean up I agree with you. The problem with mandating that they scrub their helmet during the game is, where does it stop? If you slide, do you have to change your jersey?
Everyone should start the game in clean uni’s with clean caps, with clean helmets. What happens during the games stays.[/quote]
I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO
[quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.
[quote comment=”113908″][quote comment=”113890″][quote comment=”113887″][quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.[/quote]
Except for the in game clean up I agree with you. The problem with mandating that they scrub their helmet during the game is, where does it stop? If you slide, do you have to change your jersey?
Everyone should start the game in clean uni’s with clean caps, with clean helmets. What happens during the games stays.[/quote]
I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
That’s what makes this site great. We all have our own opinions and at the end of the day yours is as valid as mine. (unless you like the Met’s back uni’s. Then you’re wrong :)
[quote comment=”113914″]I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.[/quote]
Bingo. That’s why I don’t like the practice.
[quote comment=”113887″][quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.[/quote]
If I’m MLB’s uniform police, I think I’d go after the pajama bottom pants first. Make sure that at lest 1 inch of sock is visible on all players…and then I’d start fining player, manager and team until it was adhered to. THEN I’d go after the helmets. I agree that they should be clean at the start of every game.
For the NFL…I’d keep Sean Taylor and Clinton Portis from f-ing around with their socks and putting tape on their facemasks. (Drives me NUTS! Can’t believe Gibbs lets them get away with that crap!)
And I’d outlaw the dark-on-dark look…and the all-black unitard look.
(Personally I hate the white-on-white look too…I think it looks like a practice uniform. I was so annoyed with the Skins for using that combo most of last year. Very happy that they went back to the classic white-on-burgundy. But I wouldn’t outlaw it. Too many teams have a long tradition with that as their light uniform.)
Lastly, I’d get rid of the goofy 3rd jersey for the NFL. We don’t need the Bears wearing orange. Home, Away, and throwback…that should be the 3 options in the NFL.
[quote comment=”113906″][quote comment=”113898″][quote comment=”113897″][quote comment=”113876″][quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
link
link[/quote]
link[/quote]
Trivia question:
Which MLB team did Castro try out for……?[/quote]
It’s a myth.
link
Winner! The correct answer is, none![/quote]
Speaking of Fidel Castro…
Jimmy Carter visited Cuba in 2002 and threw out the ceremonial first pitch at a Cuban Baseball League game.
What’s interesting about the picture below, is that Carter is wearing a Hideo Nomo model Wilson glove. Nomo stopped being a Wilson advisory player in 1999. I always wondered what Carter was doing with a Nomo model glove.
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Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
[quote comment=”113896″]
However… a “retro” alt… that is a different story. Don’t believe that has ever been done in the World Series (or even the playoffs in general)?[/quote]
I’m not really sure why it would be that different in this case, though. It’s not as if it’s a one time, turn-back-the-clock type thing, they wear the jersey every Friday home game. On their shop.mlb.com page, it’s called an alternate, so I can’t see why it would be different than any other one.
[quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
And what proof do you have for these two accusations?
I have watched him play his whole 19 seasions, and over the course of each seasion, the level of pine tar increases as the games are played. Why would any player want to intitionally want a shit load of pine tar on their helmet? As for your comment of “Mr. Fake Hustle”…that just makes your argument seem petty.
Chris Young’s flag falling off his cap made me wonder about flag etiquette, so I looked it up. According to the US Flag Code (yes there is such a thing), section 8j “No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.”
So all those flag patches you see in just about every sport are in violation. So is my flag tie, so I’d better get rid of it.
for those of you who are espn radio guys at work/in the car you have been hearing that dan patrick had a major announcement for tuesday, and since he was out tues and wed, it was pushed to today.
apparently his announcement is that he is leaving the worldwide leader after 18 years…
tune in today.
never seen some of those brown and gold broncos shots before. in this photo, the old Raiders unis sure looked a lot like the Bears:
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and this one vs the Chargers, that gold jersey is so light in the B&W photo, it looks like both teams are wearing white. and speaking of the “Sick Horse” helmet logo, here’s a close up:
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Not sure I understand why so many NHL teams are waiting until September to unveil their new uniforms.
With the problems that the NHL is having in ratings and keeping NASCAR from replacing them as one of the “Big 4” I’d think that they’d want to do whatever they could to keep the NHL in the news cycle. Each week between now and the start of camps (early Sept.) one of the teams doing new unis should be having an unveiling event…and getting it out there. I don’t get it.
Sure, right now, we’ve got the beginning of free agency going…so there’s some signings going on, but that’ll taper off by the MLB All-Star game. that would be a great time for Bettman to start telling Philly, Florida and the Isles…and the other teams who are sitting on new unis to start having unveiling ceremonies or press conferences (for the teams that have minimal changes).
It’s really time for a new commish over there. Gretz…hockey needs you to save it again!
[quote comment=”113931″]for those of you who are espn radio guys at work/in the car you have been hearing that dan patrick had a major announcement for tuesday, and since he was out tues and wed, it was pushed to today.
apparently his announcement is that he is leaving the worldwide leader after 18 years…
tune in today.[/quote]
I wonder if he is going ot the new MLB Network…
Biggio is a hell of a player, he wouldn’t have 3000 hits if he weren’t. He also wouldn’t have played full seasons at catcher, second and center if he weren’t (which shows you how the Astros wasted his career…he should have been lucky enough to play on a good team). As for the helmet issue, if you can’t see the team’s logo on the front you shouldn’t be wearing it. It looks like a Rookie League helmet and it should not be allowed.
[quote comment=”113927″][quote comment=”113896″]
However… a “retro” alt… that is a different story. Don’t believe that has ever been done in the World Series (or even the playoffs in general)?[/quote]
I’m not really sure why it would be that different in this case, though. It’s not as if it’s a one time, turn-back-the-clock type thing, they wear the jersey every Friday home game. On their shop.mlb.com page, it’s called an alternate, so I can’t see why it would be different than any other one.[/quote]
I don’t think the issue is whether or not you can wear an “alternate” jersey during the playoffs (clearly you can, the Astros did), the issue is how many jerseys you are allowed wear. I think that you are only allowed to wear one home and one road jersey during the series, and you are not permitted to change that jersey during a series.
LOVE that Tour de France King of the Mountains Membership card! Even have the dual numbers. That’s fantastic!
[quote comment=”113945″][quote comment=”113927″][quote comment=”113896″]
However… a “retro” alt… that is a different story. Don’t believe that has ever been done in the World Series (or even the playoffs in general)?[/quote]
I’m not really sure why it would be that different in this case, though. It’s not as if it’s a one time, turn-back-the-clock type thing, they wear the jersey every Friday home game. On their shop.mlb.com page, it’s called an alternate, so I can’t see why it would be different than any other one.[/quote]
I don’t think the issue is whether or not you can wear an “alternate” jersey during the playoffs (clearly you can, the Astros did), the issue is how many jerseys you are allowed wear. I think that you are only allowed to wear one home and one road jersey during the series, and you are not permitted to change that jersey during a series.[/quote]
Didn’t the Astros wear like 5 different Uni’s when they were in the World Series, or Playoffs?
[quote comment=”113938″][quote comment=”113931″]for those of you who are espn radio guys at work/in the car you have been hearing that dan patrick had a major announcement for tuesday, and since he was out tues and wed, it was pushed to today.
apparently his announcement is that he is leaving the worldwide leader after 18 years…
tune in today.[/quote]
I wonder if he is going ot the new MLB Network…[/quote]
He was rumored to maybe host the Price Is Right as Bob Barker’s replacement. No joke.
[quote comment=”113951″][quote comment=”113938″][quote comment=”113931″]for those of you who are espn radio guys at work/in the car you have been hearing that dan patrick had a major announcement for tuesday, and since he was out tues and wed, it was pushed to today.
apparently his announcement is that he is leaving the worldwide leader after 18 years…
tune in today.[/quote]
I wonder if he is going ot the new MLB Network…[/quote]
He was rumored to maybe host the Price Is Right as Bob Barker’s replacement. No joke.[/quote]
He said on his show that he had been asked to audition for the job, but that he turned down the audition.
[quote comment=”113951″][quote comment=”113938″][quote comment=”113931″]for those of you who are espn radio guys at work/in the car you have been hearing that dan patrick had a major announcement for tuesday, and since he was out tues and wed, it was pushed to today.
apparently his announcement is that he is leaving the worldwide leader after 18 years…
tune in today.[/quote]
I wonder if he is going ot the new MLB Network…[/quote]
He was rumored to maybe host the Price Is Right as Bob Barker’s replacement. No joke.[/quote]
he would be better than Rosie…and maybe he would say “en fuego” when the big wheel is spinning…
[quote comment=”113949″][quote comment=”113945″][quote comment=”113927″][quote comment=”113896″]
However… a “retro” alt… that is a different story. Don’t believe that has ever been done in the World Series (or even the playoffs in general)?[/quote]
I’m not really sure why it would be that different in this case, though. It’s not as if it’s a one time, turn-back-the-clock type thing, they wear the jersey every Friday home game. On their shop.mlb.com page, it’s called an alternate, so I can’t see why it would be different than any other one.[/quote]
I don’t think the issue is whether or not you can wear an “alternate” jersey during the playoffs (clearly you can, the Astros did), the issue is how many jerseys you are allowed wear. I think that you are only allowed to wear one home and one road jersey during the series, and you are not permitted to change that jersey during a series.[/quote]
Didn’t the Astros wear like 5 different Uni’s when they were in the World Series, or Playoffs?[/quote]
No,
They wore white at home and the red alternate on the road. They may have worn different combinations in other playoff series though.
AFL Ref uni note:
Given the Bronco uniforms in question in the pictures, the black numbers were from 1965 or later, while the orange numbers were from 60 or 61.
If memory serves me correctly, New Era manufactured hats with the American Flag stitched to the side (as a matter of fact, I saw a fan sporting a Nationals version yesterday at RFK). Do I assume correctly that the teams that wear the hat use the adhesive flag to save money?
[quote comment=”113925″]Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
Warren Moon over Tiny Archibald; Gilbert Arenas over Al Oliver??????? WTF?
I don’t know if they’re stitched into the side on the caps they sell to fans – the ones sold in ballparks after 9/11 were glued on.
The Presidential Racers at RFK don’t wear those jerseys on the field, they must be only for “events” like the poster above was at.
They are just too awesome.
[quote comment=”113961″][quote comment=”113925″]Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
Warren Moon over Tiny Archibald; Gilbert Arenas over Al Oliver??????? WTF?[/quote]
Orr over Favre??? I guess that is a close one.
[quote comment=”113930″]Chris Young’s flag falling off his cap made me wonder about flag etiquette, so I looked it up. According to the US Flag Code (yes there is such a thing), section 8j “No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.”
So all those flag patches you see in just about every sport are in violation. So is my flag tie, so I’d better get rid of it.[/quote]
But this is not law. So this use is not illegal. Neither is the tie.
[quote comment=”113931″]for those of you who are espn radio guys at work/in the car you have been hearing that dan patrick had a major announcement for tuesday, and since he was out tues and wed, it was pushed to today.
apparently his announcement is that he is leaving the worldwide leader after 18 years…
tune in today.[/quote]
Saw this ….
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[quote comment=”113955″][quote comment=”113949″][quote comment=”113945″][quote comment=”113927″][quote comment=”113896″]
However… a “retro” alt… that is a different story. Don’t believe that has ever been done in the World Series (or even the playoffs in general)?[/quote]
I’m not really sure why it would be that different in this case, though. It’s not as if it’s a one time, turn-back-the-clock type thing, they wear the jersey every Friday home game. On their shop.mlb.com page, it’s called an alternate, so I can’t see why it would be different than any other one.[/quote]
I don’t think the issue is whether or not you can wear an “alternate” jersey during the playoffs (clearly you can, the Astros did), the issue is how many jerseys you are allowed wear. I think that you are only allowed to wear one home and one road jersey during the series, and you are not permitted to change that jersey during a series.[/quote]
Didn’t the Astros wear like 5 different Uni’s when they were in the World Series, or Playoffs?[/quote]
No,
They wore white at home and the red alternate on the road. They may have worn different combinations in other playoff series though.[/quote]
I could have sworn that they did wear many uni combinations for the Playoffs at least. I thought it was even discussed on here. I could be wrong… oh well.
[quote comment=”113970″][quote comment=”113930″]Chris Young’s flag falling off his cap made me wonder about flag etiquette, so I looked it up. According to the US Flag Code (yes there is such a thing), section 8j “No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.”
So all those flag patches you see in just about every sport are in violation. So is my flag tie, so I’d better get rid of it.[/quote]
But this is not law. So this use is not illegal. Neither is the tie.[/quote]
“No part of the flag” is the key.
Unless your tie was once a flag, it is perfectly fine. A flag patch affixed to a national sports organization that honours and celebrates all things patriotic would be, in my opinion, a patriotic organization.
[quote comment=”113966″]
Orr over Favre??? I guess that is a close one.[/quote]
It shouldn’t be. Orr redefined his position. Favre just refuses to retire.
[quote comment=”113961″][quote comment=”113925″]Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
Warren Moon over Tiny Archibald;WTF?[/quote]
i guess because moon was a career wearer of #1…
i think tiny only had #1 for a few seasons…
wore both 10 and 1 with the kings, 1 with the nets and of course 7 with the celts
[quote comment=”113945″]I don’t think the issue is whether or not you can wear an “alternate” jersey during the playoffs (clearly you can, the Astros did), the issue is how many jerseys you are allowed wear. I think that you are only allowed to wear one home and one road jersey during the series, and you are not permitted to change that jersey during a series.[/quote]
In the 05 ALCS, the White Sox wore their vest home alt for the first game and their regular home uniform for the second.
I hate to bring this up, because I think they’re talked about way too much here, but wasn’t a big deal made about how the Mets wore their traditional blue look for some playoff games last year? Did they wear that in ALL the games?
[quote comment=”113852″][quote comment=”113838″]What are the teams in this AFL picture that Paul linked to earlier?
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The player with the ball seems to be wearing a KC Chiefs helmet with the logo facing the wrong direction, but the uniform is red, white and black. The opposing team is in all red and looks like the typical Chiefs uniform that is still worn today.
Was that a scrimage or what?[/quote]
That’s the Chiefs and link (with their awful “sick horse” helmet logo).
The Chiefs player is in motion, I can’t tell that his helmet logo is backwards.[/quote]
Is it possible that the team in red is the Dallas Texans? Might explain the helmet logo.
it looks like SI is a little slow on the uptake. Uniwatch has been discussing this for a long time:
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And why didn’t they go to 100? We’ve established that it’s been worn in competition.
[quote comment=”113985″][quote comment=”113852″][quote comment=”113838″]What are the teams in this AFL picture that Paul linked to earlier?
link
The player with the ball seems to be wearing a KC Chiefs helmet with the logo facing the wrong direction, but the uniform is red, white and black. The opposing team is in all red and looks like the typical Chiefs uniform that is still worn today.
Was that a scrimage or what?[/quote]
That’s the Chiefs and link (with their awful “sick horse” helmet logo).
The Chiefs player is in motion, I can’t tell that his helmet logo is backwards.[/quote]
Is it possible that the team in red is the Dallas Texans? Might explain the helmet logo.[/quote]
Sorry, but it couldn’t be. The Broncos didn’t wear those jerseys until 1965 and the Texans became the Chiefs in 1963.
[quote comment=”113955″][quote comment=”113949″]Didn’t the Astros wear like 5 different Uni’s when they were in the World Series, or Playoffs?[/quote]
No,
They wore white at home and the red alternate on the road. They may have worn different combinations in other playoff series though.[/quote]
You’re wrong. See link. They wore gray in game one of the series and red in game 2.
And I just confirmed, in last year’s NLCS, the Mets wore the snow white unis with black/blue hats in game 1 and the white pinstripes with blue hat in game 7. I didn’t bother to check the others.
I think all of this confirms, in MLB there seems to be no rule preventing wearing alts in the playoffs, or changing at any time.
[quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
You must also hate most of the Red Sox and Vladimir Guerrero (among others) then, huh?
I went to the Joliet Jackhammers (Northern League) game last night. they wore red, white and blue unis, But I cant find any pics. They are also supposed to wear Negro League throwbacks on the 5th.
Anybody notice how Jose Reyes continues to have his back pocket out, and he is never asked to correct it?
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[quote comment=”113887″][quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.[/quote]
I disagree totally. The pinetar, the sweat stains on hats make it look like the ball player actually plays. Gotta get dirty, the clear look has no place in baseball. Gotta be a “dirtbagger” all the way!!
Bizarre deal, but I got to meet Matt Lindstrom of the Florida Marlins in San Diego on Tuesday night after the game (he is from just up the road in Idaho), and I told him I thought it was cool he wore #22, because that was my number in college, and he told me that he wears it because it was his brother’s number in college. So there you go.
Frank
[quote comment=”113980″][quote comment=”113966″]
Orr over Favre??? I guess that is a close one.[/quote]
It shouldn’t be. Orr redefined his position. Favre just refuses to retire.[/quote]
Well said. There shouldn’t be any question there.
[quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
Do you also hate the Red Sox, Vladimir Guererro, and others that do that with their helmets?
[quote comment=”113981″][quote comment=”113961″][quote comment=”113925″]Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
Warren Moon over Tiny Archibald;WTF?[/quote]
i guess because moon was a career wearer of #1…
i think tiny only had #1 for a few seasons…
wore both 10 and 1 with the kings, 1 with the nets and of course 7 with the celts[/quote]
I think I would go Patrick Roy over Kareem for #33…..that’s just me though….
[quote comment=”114006″]
I disagree totally. The pinetar, the sweat stains on hats make it look like the ball player actually plays. Gotta get dirty, the clear look has no place in baseball. Gotta be a “dirtbagger” all the way!![/quote]
Except that it’s phony.
Should football teams stop washing their uniforms?
[quote comment=”113981″][quote comment=”113961″][quote comment=”113925″]Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
Warren Moon over Tiny Archibald;WTF?[/quote]
i guess because moon was a career wearer of #1…
i think tiny only had #1 for a few seasons…
wore both 10 and 1 with the kings, 1 with the nets and of course 7 with the celts[/quote]
Forget Moon or Tiny, both over the greats of Glenn Hall and Joseph Jacques Omer “Jake the Snake” Plante? Sometimes I think SI and ESPN only reverts to hockey when they need to fill space.
[quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
200 was the year the Astros changed from the blue and gold uniforms to the current ones. That included new helmets. That explains his clean helmet in 2000. When he got the new helmet he scuffed it up on purpose. However, he has a habit of before every pitch touching his helmet after touching his pine-tar loaded bat. So that explains the pine-tar.
Those of you doubting his hustle have obviously not watched him play. If I had kids there would be one player I would want them to emulate, Biggio. That 41 year old man runs out every hit, no matter what. No wonder he’s on the few players to go a full season without hitting into a double play.
Colin Cowherd said that Bob Valvano is in for Dan Patrick today. SO I guess no big announcement
[quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.
[quote comment=”113973″][quote comment=”113931″]for those of you who are espn radio guys at work/in the car you have been hearing that dan patrick had a major announcement for tuesday, and since he was out tues and wed, it was pushed to today.
apparently his announcement is that he is leaving the worldwide leader after 18 years…
tune in today.[/quote]
Saw this ….
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Dan Patrick is not in today.
[quote comment=”114013″][quote comment=”113981″][quote comment=”113961″][quote comment=”113925″]Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
Warren Moon over Tiny Archibald;WTF?[/quote]
i guess because moon was a career wearer of #1…
i think tiny only had #1 for a few seasons…
wore both 10 and 1 with the kings, 1 with the nets and of course 7 with the celts[/quote]
Forget Moon or Tiny, both over the greats of Glenn Hall and Joseph Jacques Omer “Jake the Snake” Plante? Sometimes I think SI and ESPN only reverts to hockey when they need to fill space.[/quote]
Ozzie Smith anyone?
i dont remember if this team has been mentioned, listed or pictured as on with logo’ed stirrups,
but here is a pic of jim abbot with the angels.
notice the halo’ed a
link
[quote comment=”114001″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
You must also hate most of the Red Sox and Vladimir Guerrero (among others) then, huh?[/quote]
I definitely dislike helmets that are intentionally dirtied.
Did anyone catch the mention of Sidd Finch as a famous wearer of #21?
link
If you don’t know the story behind him: link
[quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.
[quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Do you want a player to not slide or dive?
I think Biggio and Edmonds are examples of players who may not have the most talent in the world, or be the best athletes. But they work their asses off to be Major League Baseball players. If that includes diving and slidding to get that extra ball or base than they will do it. Better than a lot of players who are to busy trying to look pretty and missing plays they could have made.
[quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.
[quote comment=”114025″]Did anyone catch the mention of Sidd Finch as a famous wearer of #21?
link
If you don’t know the story behind him: link
this is about the closest you’ll get to a good visual
link
ESPN column today really pinned down something unique. I wonder if they used the pinned numbers when some guy would come up from the minors too.
Paul’s link is up.
I was joking about the flag tie – I will continue to wear it once every couple of years. But according to the web site I was reading (and yes, of course, you can believe everything in print) the code claims flag t-shirts shouldn’t be worn either. Which would put Old Navy out of business.
I don’t think MLB, the NFL, etc are breaking any law but apparently they are breaking etiquette.
[quote comment=”114032″][quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.[/quote]
What evidence to you want? What would have me do, provide video that on April 29, 2001, Biggio dove for a ball that he could have easily caught without leaving his feet? Sorry, but I don’t have access to vaults of video from Biggio’s career. My opinion is based on having watched him play for all these years, in person and on tv, and I’m sticking to it.
With regard to post no. 121, of course there is nothing wrong with diving for balls when it is necessary. My whole premise here is that these guys (Chuck Knoblauch was another example) frequently dive and slide when they do not need to do so. It’s like they developed this image of being hustling, dirty players, and they have to then fake hustle to make sure that everyone still notices them.
[quote comment=”114032″][quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.[/quote]
I’m still waiting for something better than saying “fake hustle” is diving for a ball “unnecessarily”. I’m more willing to believe Robert’s words come from something else other than fact…such as emotion and spite.
This is a few days old, but I didn’t see any mention of it when I searched Uni Watch.
Golfer Brian Bateman won the Buick Open this past Sunday, and he was wearing a Miami Dolphins shirt.
link
It isn’t the first time a player has won wearing NFL apparel. Ben Curtis won the Booz Allen Classic last year wearing a Washington Redskins outfit and the 84 Lumber Classic in Sept. 2006 wearing a Pittsburgh Steelers outfit.
Paul, nice catch on the pinned on uni numbers!
It may have been mentioned before, but did anyone else notice that Jonathan Papelbon is still weraing last season’s cap (I noticed the gray underside of the bill)?
Charlton Athletic’s new secondary kits are link-striped. The ’06-’07 black and gold kit becomes a third jersey. The club’s link says:
“If we were going to have a blue kit, it was important that it didn’t look like another club’s kit, which is why we have gone for the denim and seahawk blue stripes. Blue is the most commercial colour in terms of clothing, and we’ve harked back to the strip Charlton wore in 1923… The fabric is very hi-tech, with the shirt made of a three-way breathable sporting fabric… In addition, with red, blue and black strips for the coming season, there is a very broad range for fans.â€Â
So an English football (soccer) team is wearing a color named after an American football team. Anyone know of other examples of a sports team wearing a color that is “unique” to another team?
[quote comment=”114040″][quote comment=”114032″][quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.[/quote]
What evidence to you want? What would have me do, provide video that on April 29, 2001, Biggio dove for a ball that he could have easily caught without leaving his feet? Sorry, but I don’t have access to vaults of video from Biggio’s career. My opinion is based on having watched him play for all these years, in person and on tv, and I’m sticking to it.
With regard to post no. 121, of course there is nothing wrong with diving for balls when it is necessary. My whole premise here is that these guys (Chuck Knoblauch was another example) frequently dive and slide when they do not need to do so. It’s like they developed this image of being hustling, dirty players, and they have to then fake hustle to make sure that everyone still notices them.[/quote]
Yes, if you’re going to make such an accusation, you should be prepared to support it with evidence of at least SOME kind. I can see that accusation for Edmonds and Eric Byrnes, but not Knoblauch or Biggio (and that’s not to besmirch either Edmonds or Byrnes who have always played the game as if they’re physical well being was expendable).
[quote comment=”113930″]Chris Young’s flag falling off his cap made me wonder about flag etiquette, so I looked it up. According to the US Flag Code (yes there is such a thing), section 8j “No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.”
So all those flag patches you see in just about every sport are in violation. So is my flag tie, so I’d better get rid of it.[/quote]
Isnt MLB a patriotic organization? It is billed as America’s pastime. Also after 9/11 all MLB teams wore the flag on the top of the rear of the jerseys as a sign of patriotism.
this talent vs. hustle vs. fake hustle brings me to a conversation a few of us had over some coldies a week ago during a yanks game.
i brought up the point of how many mlb’ers were actually born with THAT TALENT (meaning the talent to excel at baseball) vs those who actually have to work their ass off just to get to and stay in th bigs.
someone then brought up albert pujols vs. david eckstein. pujols born with THAT TALENT (although im sure that he works hard) against eckstein a guy who obviously has had to bust his but and earn every hit, base, etc.
not taking away from the greats who seem to have that inherent talent, but i think sometimes what we perceive as hustle is simply what those guys need to do to get by.
nice comment, Todd! *thumbs-up*
[quote comment=”114051″]Charlton Athletic’s new secondary kits are link-striped. The ’06-’07 black and gold kit becomes a third jersey. The club’s link says:
“If we were going to have a blue kit, it was important that it didn’t look like another club’s kit, which is why we have gone for the denim and seahawk blue stripes. Blue is the most commercial colour in terms of clothing, and we’ve harked back to the strip Charlton wore in 1923… The fabric is very hi-tech, with the shirt made of a three-way breathable sporting fabric… In addition, with red, blue and black strips for the coming season, there is a very broad range for fans.â€Â
So an English football (soccer) team is wearing a color named after an American football team. Anyone know of other examples of a sports team wearing a color that is “unique” to another team?[/quote]
I;m not sure about team colors, but the blue paint for the blue in a goal crease in hockey is called goal crease blue. That’s the official name from the company that produces it.
[quote comment=”114012″][quote comment=”114006″]
I disagree totally. The pinetar, the sweat stains on hats make it look like the ball player actually plays. Gotta get dirty, the clear look has no place in baseball. Gotta be a “dirtbagger” all the way!![/quote]
Except that it’s phony.
Should football teams stop washing their uniforms?[/quote]
Not saying that they should stop washing their uniforms and that they should go out there looking like bums… But do these guys really need to trot out there with a brand new hat everyday? I like the pinetar on the helmet and the sweat stains on the hats, it just looks like baseball to me.
PLAGERISM!!! Richard Deitsch of Sports Illustrated has this article “Jersey boys The tale behind our picks for best athletes by number” on sportsillustrated.com. link
[quote comment=”114041″][quote comment=”114032″][quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.[/quote]
I’m still waiting for something better than saying “fake hustle” is diving for a ball “unnecessarily”. I’m more willing to believe Robert’s words come from something else other than fact…such as emotion and spite.[/quote]
Emotion and spite? Where do you get that? I am definitely not emotional about these players and have nothing about which to be spiteful. I simply offered my thoughts on a subject.
You Biggio defenders are the ones taking this too seriously. You can’t let your feelings get hurt just because someone else doesn’t like your favorite player. Lighten up, and please be consistent and demand concrete, admissible-in-court evidence from every other person who posts an opinion on this board as well.
re: ESPN column, 65 Dodgers spring “S” jerseys
Well this got me wondering and I came up with a couple of ideas.
You can see link that the 64 Dodgers had affiliates in Salisbury NC, Salem OR, and Santa Barbara CA, all named “Dodgers.” As we know, the Dodgers moved to LA in 58 so maybe they just grabbed the Santa Monica jerseys on their way to Florida the next year.
Maybe they used Western Carolinas League champs Salisbury (about 30 minutes from my house, I love old Mill Baseball history!) as a pat on the back to the Salisbury team.
The Spokane Indians were their AAA affiliate that year, though I didn’t look for pictures I doubt they are what Paul posted on ESPN. Spokane has such a rich history as the Indians that I don’t think they’d sport a Dodgers jersey as opposed to their own style.
Just some thoughts…my money is on the Santa Monica Dodgers.
[quote comment=”113985″][quote comment=”113852″][quote comment=”113838″]What are the teams in this AFL picture that Paul linked to earlier?
link
The player with the ball seems to be wearing a KC Chiefs helmet with the logo facing the wrong direction, but the uniform is red, white and black. The opposing team is in all red and looks like the typical Chiefs uniform that is still worn today.
Was that a scrimage or what?[/quote]
That’s the Chiefs and link (with their awful “sick horse” helmet logo).
The Chiefs player is in motion, I can’t tell that his helmet logo is backwards.[/quote]
Is it possible that the team in red is the Dallas Texans? Might explain the helmet logo.[/quote]
When I took the DVD capture, I was trying to get the Ref in the shot, so the KC guy is in motion. I can assure you it’s a KC player. Also, if you want any more shots of the refs for your exciting AFL Ref Uni Trivia contests, just let me know, I can grab more.
Been out of the house for most of the day and just returned home to find that today’s ESPN column link.
[quote comment=”113850″]I thought I read somewhere (ambiguous enough?) that the Mets starting pitcher gets to pick the uni set the team will wear for that game.[/quote]
I can speak only for what I know of the Angels. They allow the starting pitcher to choose the jersey. Kelvim has requested the red alts all season because he has gotten some good run support in them. I imagine many other teams allow this practice.
I’ve been away for a few days, so I’m not sure if this has been posted or not, but here’s an article on the person that hands the college players their NBA team’s hat once they’ve been drafted:
link
[quote comment=”114054″]this talent vs. hustle vs. fake hustle brings me to a conversation a few of us had over some coldies a week ago during a yanks game.
i brought up the point of how many mlb’ers were actually born with THAT TALENT (meaning the talent to excel at baseball) vs those who actually have to work their ass off just to get to and stay in th bigs.
someone then brought up albert pujols vs. david eckstein. pujols born with THAT TALENT (although im sure that he works hard) against eckstein a guy who obviously has had to bust his but and earn every hit, base, etc.
not taking away from the greats who seem to have that inherent talent, but i think sometimes what we perceive as hustle is simply what those guys need to do to get by.[/quote]
Sounds like a good conversation, what about those guys who ‘seem to have the talent’ and are spoon fed to the majors and end up screwing it up like Elijah Dukes. Just so sad to see. When we are busting are butts to get ahead of the game, dream about playing in the bigs, and guys like him are clueless at how lucky they are.
[quote comment=”114060″]PLAGERISM!!! Richard Deitsch of Sports Illustrated has this article “Jersey boys The tale behind our picks for best athletes by number” on sportsillustrated.com. link
It’s not plagarism. Paul’s article was on players wearing each number for a specific reason. This is on the best players to wear each number, no reasoning behind number choice. They are separate.
[quote comment=”114013″][quote comment=”113981″][quote comment=”113961″][quote comment=”113925″]Sports Illustrated has a photo gallery of the best players to wear each number
00-31 link
32-65 link
66-99 link
Warren Moon over Tiny Archibald;WTF?[/quote]
i guess because moon was a career wearer of #1…
i think tiny only had #1 for a few seasons…
wore both 10 and 1 with the kings, 1 with the nets and of course 7 with the celts[/quote]
Forget Moon or Tiny, both over the greats of Glenn Hall and Joseph Jacques Omer “Jake the Snake” Plante? Sometimes I think SI and ESPN only reverts to hockey when they need to fill space.[/quote]
Of course otherwise Gordie Howe would be on that list.
[quote comment=”114051″]Charlton Athletic’s new secondary kits are link-striped. The ’06-’07 black and gold kit becomes a third jersey. The club’s link says:
“If we were going to have a blue kit, it was important that it didn’t look like another club’s kit, which is why we have gone for the denim and seahawk blue stripes. Blue is the most commercial colour in terms of clothing, and we’ve harked back to the strip Charlton wore in 1923… The fabric is very hi-tech, with the shirt made of a three-way breathable sporting fabric… In addition, with red, blue and black strips for the coming season, there is a very broad range for fans.â€Â
So an English football (soccer) team is wearing a color named after an American football team. Anyone know of other examples of a sports team wearing a color that is “unique” to another team?[/quote]
Is it just me, or does the Charlton color not really match what Walter Jones et al wear?
link guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about, especially when it comes to the Ravens and the 49ers.
[quote comment=”114069″][quote comment=”113850″]I thought I read somewhere (ambiguous enough?) that the Mets starting pitcher gets to pick the uni set the team will wear for that game.[/quote]
I can speak only for what I know of the Angels. They allow the starting pitcher to choose the jersey. Kelvim has requested the red alts all season because he has gotten some good run support in them. I imagine many other teams allow this practice.[/quote]
Oh, I forgot to respond to this. The Mets equipment manager Charlie Samuels decides on the Uni. Also since the Mets were told to start wearing the BP caps during BP they also wore the blue cap during home games. 5 straight games, then they went on their current road trip. I’m hoping the mlb also told them to wear their home cap at home and their road cap on the road. We’ll have to see what Wright, Reyes, Beltran and Wagner are wearing at the all-star game. Last year they wore the snow-whites with the black and blue caps…blech
[quote comment=”113887″][quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.[/quote]
1) Many players that have dirty helmets do so becasue they keep pine tar up there that they can use during an at bat (see most players who dont wear batting gloves). You would then have batters running between the on deck and the batter box between pitches to get some stickyness on their hands 2) What would be the penalty if ones helment was not “clean”? an automatic out? does he get thrown out of the game? What determines “clean” is that at the umps discretion?
[quote comment=”114062″][quote comment=”114041″][quote comment=”114032″][quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.[/quote]
I’m still waiting for something better than saying “fake hustle” is diving for a ball “unnecessarily”. I’m more willing to believe Robert’s words come from something else other than fact…such as emotion and spite.[/quote]
Emotion and spite? Where do you get that? I am definitely not emotional about these players and have nothing about which to be spiteful. I simply offered my thoughts on a subject.
You Biggio defenders are the ones taking this too seriously. You can’t let your feelings get hurt just because someone else doesn’t like your favorite player. Lighten up, and please be consistent and demand concrete, admissible-in-court evidence from every other person who posts an opinion on this board as well.[/quote]
Biggio is not my favorite player, though I will admit some bias since I’ve been an Astros fan my entire 24 years. That being said, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me, or BCrisp, or James P. or any other person here to ask you to back up your assertion. I’m not grilling you as in court, but if you’re going to offer that opinion, I am curious as to how you came about it. Was it something in particular? Is it because you just like clean uniforms? Is it because he probably should’ve been called for batter’s interference for not even trying to get out of the way on as many as half of his hit by pitches (in which category he is the all time leader)?
I’m gonna jump in on this, not trying to take sides or piss anyone off. A lot of people who grew up playing baseball equate your level of hustle and hard work to how dirty your uniform was. My dad worked nights so he didn’t get to see a lot of my games and the first thing he always asked me was “Did you get your uniform dirty.” That was his way of asking if I left it all out on the field. That is just one of the mearusing sticks I use now for playing hard.
I am not going to comment on specific players but there is such a thing as fake hustle. It is the guys diving for balls that 10 feet away and have no chance of getting or the guys who could make an easy catch and dive just to get dirty. I don’t see it as much in the majors but you always know one of those guys when you see them and we made fun of them a lot in practice. It is one thing to get dirty to look “cool” but don’t take anything away from the guys who get dirty from busting their butt!!
Anyway this is a great thread and there is a lot of passion in this bunch on both sides.
[quote comment=”114040″][quote comment=”114032″][quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.[/quote]
What evidence to you want? What would have me do, provide video that on April 29, 2001, Biggio dove for a ball that he could have easily caught without leaving his feet? Sorry, but I don’t have access to vaults of video from Biggio’s career. My opinion is based on having watched him play for all these years, in person and on tv, and I’m sticking to it.
With regard to post no. 121, of course there is nothing wrong with diving for balls when it is necessary. My whole premise here is that these guys (Chuck Knoblauch was another example) frequently dive and slide when they do not need to do so. It’s like they developed this image of being hustling, dirty players, and they have to then fake hustle to make sure that everyone still notices them.[/quote]
How can you not notice a guy who was air mailing balls into the stands from 30 feet away?
Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?
[quote comment=”113819″][quote comment=”113808″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
I was at Tuesday’s game. What’s with the odd pads Castro had strapped to his calves?[/quote]
link are designed for the catcher to squat more comfortably and to save his legs and knees.[/quote]
I was always lead to believe that Sandy Alomar helped on creating them, but the only thing I can find in print is that he was the first to start using them.
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Sandy not only had a helping hand in creating them, he invented them for sure. Either one of the earliest versions, or the first version is on display at the Baseball as American exhibit in Cleveland right now with a nod to Alomar Jr. as the inventor.
[quote comment=”114042″]This is a few days old, but I didn’t see any mention of it when I searched Uni Watch.
Golfer Brian Bateman won the Buick Open this past Sunday, and he was wearing a Miami Dolphins shirt.
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It isn’t the first time a player has won wearing NFL apparel. Ben Curtis won the Booz Allen Classic last year wearing a Washington Redskins outfit and the 84 Lumber Classic in Sept. 2006 wearing a Pittsburgh Steelers outfit.[/quote]
More significantly, the late Payne Stewart had a sponsorship agreement with NFL Properties for several years, and linkof the NFL team nearest a tournament course.
[quote comment=”114088″]Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?[/quote]
I’m liking this theory the most.
[quote comment=”114093″] More significantly, the late Payne Stewart had a sponsorship agreement with NFL Properties for several years, and linkof the NFL team nearest a tournament course.[/quote]
An even better shot of Payne! link
[quote comment=”114079″]Biggio is not my favorite player, though I will admit some bias since I’ve been an Astros fan my entire 24 years. That being said, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me, or BCrisp, or James P. or any other person here to ask you to back up your assertion. I’m not grilling you as in court, but if you’re going to offer that opinion, I am curious as to how you came about it. Was it something in particular? Is it because you just like clean uniforms? Is it because he probably should’ve been called for batter’s interference for not even trying to get out of the way on as many as half of his hit by pitches (in which category he is the all time leader)?[/quote]
During today’s debate, this issue never popped into my head, but now that you mentioned the HBP record, I am reminded of my opinion on that as well. Yes, I dislike Biggio for being a player who wears body armor up to the plate and then lets the ball hit him. Don Baylor and Ron Hunt never stepped up to the plate dressed like a tank.
I definitely do not demand or even prefer clean uniforms. Few things are cooler than a catcher who is filthy after spending a day toiling behind the plate. That kind of guy’s dirt is earned.
My opinion is simply based on watching many games over the years, and observing players who have played in the manner that I described and derided. On occasion, announcers will offer comments that are consistent with my thoughts on these players, such as, “You know, he really didn’t need to dive for that ball” or the rare-but-appreciated “I wonder whether he ate a hot dog before that play.”
[quote comment=”113948″]LOVE that Tour de France King of the Mountains Membership card! Even have the dual numbers. That’s fantastic![/quote]
I agree that “KOM jersey” is Excellent! But 1) Why are the numbers yellow? (I guess his team leads the Team Classification too?) and 2) for realism they should have made the numbers look “roughed up”. They flap a lot less in the wind if you crumple ’em up before you pin ’em on. I even do that on charity rides when they make you wear the #@#& things.
[quote comment=”114095″]An even better shot of Payne! link[/quote]
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Over on ESPN Page 2, there is a column predicting the Milwaukee Brewers to make the playoffs, and they got a few links to the retro Brewers uni’s. I would love to see the Brewers in the playoffs.
[quote comment=”114098″][quote comment=”114079″]During today’s debate, this issue never popped into my head, but now that you mentioned the HBP record, I am reminded of my opinion on that as well. Yes, I dislike Biggio for being a player who wears body armor up to the plate and then lets the ball hit him. Don Baylor and Ron Hunt never stepped up to the plate dressed like a tank.[/quote]
While I completely disagree with your previous assessments of Biggio, you’re dead on with the HBP thing. Don’t try and fool us into thinking you’ve got some elbow/arm issue that you wear protection for when you’re leaning into everything thrown inside. While I really don’t like the Astros, Biggio is a hustler.
[quote comment=”114110″][quote comment=”114098″][quote comment=”114079″]During today’s debate, this issue never popped into my head, but now that you mentioned the HBP record, I am reminded of my opinion on that as well. Yes, I dislike Biggio for being a player who wears body armor up to the plate and then lets the ball hit him. Don Baylor and Ron Hunt never stepped up to the plate dressed like a tank.[/quote]
While I completely disagree with your previous assessments of Biggio, you’re dead on with the HBP thing. Don’t try and fool us into thinking you’ve got some elbow/arm issue that you wear protection for when you’re leaning into everything thrown inside. While I really don’t like the Astros, Biggio is a hustler.
Corrected the code.
[quote comment=”114111″][quote comment=”114110″][quote comment=”114098″][quote comment=”114079″]During today’s debate, this issue never popped into my head, but now that you mentioned the HBP record, I am reminded of my opinion on that as well. Yes, I dislike Biggio for being a player who wears body armor up to the plate and then lets the ball hit him. Don Baylor and Ron Hunt never stepped up to the plate dressed like a tank.[/quote]
While I completely disagree with your previous assessments of Biggio, you’re dead on with the HBP thing. Don’t try and fool us into thinking you’ve got some elbow/arm issue that you wear protection for when you’re leaning into everything thrown inside. While I really don’t like the Astros, Biggio is a hustler.
Corrected the code.[/quote]
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[quote comment=”113849″]Anyway, George Washington wears number 1, Jefferson, 3, Lincoln, 16 and Teddy Roosevelt, 26…No doubt the numbers correspond with which number president they are (JFK would wear 35, Clinton would be 42, “W” would be 43).[/quote]
Would Cleveland get an alternate jersey with his second number?
[quote comment=”114076″]link guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about, especially when it comes to the Ravens and the 49ers.[/quote]
This is one of the worst columns I’ve ever read.
[quote comment=”114012″][quote comment=”114006″]
I disagree totally. The pinetar, the sweat stains on hats make it look like the ball player actually plays. Gotta get dirty, the clear look has no place in baseball. Gotta be a “dirtbagger” all the way!![/quote]
Except that it’s phony.
Should football teams stop washing their uniforms?[/quote]
Please no!! Couple guys on the teams that I’ve played have done that, on purpose. Not pleasant at all!
[quote comment=”114098″][quote comment=”114079″]Biggio is not my favorite player, though I will admit some bias since I’ve been an Astros fan my entire 24 years. That being said, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me, or BCrisp, or James P. or any other person here to ask you to back up your assertion. I’m not grilling you as in court, but if you’re going to offer that opinion, I am curious as to how you came about it. Was it something in particular? Is it because you just like clean uniforms? Is it because he probably should’ve been called for batter’s interference for not even trying to get out of the way on as many as half of his hit by pitches (in which category he is the all time leader)?[/quote]
During today’s debate, this issue never popped into my head, but now that you mentioned the HBP record, I am reminded of my opinion on that as well. Yes, I dislike Biggio for being a player who wears body armor up to the plate and then lets the ball hit him. Don Baylor and Ron Hunt never stepped up to the plate dressed like a tank.
I definitely do not demand or even prefer clean uniforms. Few things are cooler than a catcher who is filthy after spending a day toiling behind the plate. That kind of guy’s dirt is earned.
My opinion is simply based on watching many games over the years, and observing players who have played in the manner that I described and derided. On occasion, announcers will offer comments that are consistent with my thoughts on these players, such as, “You know, he really didn’t need to dive for that ball” or the rare-but-appreciated “I wonder whether he ate a hot dog before that play.”[/quote]
Well if that’s your opinion based upon watching him for years, then I respect that. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.
Technically, what Biggio wears (and he doesn’t always wear it, especially this season) isn’t body armor (not on the Barry Bonds bionic arm style anyway). It’s just a padded arm brace that replaced the tape and ace bandages that he used to wrap around his arm every game. I seem to recall the reason for his doing this is that he has tendinitis in his left elbow.
Anyway, here’s a picture of him getting his 3,000th hit and not wearing it: link
You can kind of see the ace bandages/tape on his left elbow here: link
and here: link
Can’t imagine wearing that on a July afternoon was too terribly comfortable.
[quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?!? I am not even going to debate you on this… please!
[quote comment=”114094″][quote comment=”114088″]Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?[/quote]
I’m liking this theory the most.[/quote]
Another piece of evidence that points to this is the National League had All-Star jerseys prepared instead of wearing their own teams’ jerseys. Perhaps the league wanted AS jerseys, and the AL players wanted to wear their own jerseys, so they compromisedby eliminating duplicate numbers with the pinned-on fabric.
Trivia: in Japanese high school baseball, teams don’t generally cut kids who aren’t good enough, but only the people who play in games get numbers. They’re assigned before each game and pinned on just like Gehrig, Ruth, etc. did. link
I’m an Astros fan, and I have been a Biggio “hater” for a few years now because the dude cannot hit a slider to save his life. However, claiming he dosen’t hustle is absolutely moronic and ignorant. Shut your mouth when you don’t know what you are talking about. Ask anyone associated with Major League Baseball: beat writers, announcers, clubhouse personel, managers, opposing players, fans, ANYONE. Biggio is admired for his hustle and grit from everyone in the game. If you are dumb enough to say he is a “fake hustler”, then you just need to keep you hands off your keyboard and not pollute this forum with your ignorance.
Paul,
would it be possible to have a membership card with the away jersey seen here?
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Fake hustle? What the hell are you guys talking about? Who cares how much Biggio grimaces when he’s going from first to third on a single, as long as he gets there. Results, people.
True Uni Stories: at Wednesday’s Phils/’Stros game at Dick Cheney Field, the guy sitting next to me, upon hearing from his female companion that the Astros were wearing different uniforms than they’d worn on Tuesday, asked me how many different uniforms the Astros have. (N.B.: I did *not* initiate this uni-centric conversation.)
I replied that they have five: link, link, never-worn link, link, and link.
I also pointed out that the Phillies are one of the few remaining teams that has only two uniform styles.
Rockies SS Troy Tulowitzki wears the No. 2 in tribute to his shortstop hero, Derek Jeter.
[quote comment=”113948″]LOVE that Tour de France King of the Mountains Membership card! Even have the dual numbers. That’s fantastic![/quote]
Is that what that was? Did he pass the drug test then?
[quote comment=”114128″]I’m an Astros fan, and I have been a Biggio “hater” for a few years now because the dude cannot hit a slider to save his life. However, claiming he dosen’t hustle is absolutely moronic and ignorant. Shut your mouth when you don’t know what you are talking about. Ask anyone associated with Major League Baseball: beat writers, announcers, clubhouse personel, managers, opposing players, fans, ANYONE. Biggio is admired for his hustle and grit from everyone in the game. If you are dumb enough to say he is a “fake hustler”, then you just need to keep you hands off your keyboard and not pollute this forum with your ignorance.[/quote]
Do you realize that any point you might have been trying to make was lost in the name-calling and mud-throwing? Why can’t you state your case with maturity, like 99% of the people who post here?
because ignorance is blind to itself
The A’s wore their current home whites a few times but in a red, white, and blue colorway, in the Big 3 days I believe.
Joe Kennedy must have started without a flag since he only lasts 2/3 of an inning – probably why he gave up four runs in that span to the only team from Canada in MLB.
I got an oppurtunity to work with Biggio at a Seton Hall recruting camp in the winter of 1999. He worked with me at second base and in the cages. He emphasized the importance of hard work and hustle. He also was very humble. In all honesty I would rather see someone who goes 100% after each ball and is backing up plays and is in the right place at the right time then someone who doesn’t run out a ground ball /fly ball. He has gotten over 1,000 etra base hits because of his hustle..there is nothing fake about that.
[quote comment=”114062″][quote comment=”114041″][quote comment=”114032″][quote comment=”114029″][quote comment=”114018″][quote comment=”113914″][quote comment=”113908″]I disagree. I think Biggio’s helmer looks great. It shows the type of player he is. One that is willing to get dirty and play hard. I also like the dirty hats like Eric Gagne made famous. I just think it looks great, IMO[/quote]
I have never liked Biggio, and the helmet is part of the reason. It shows what kind of player he is, but not in the way that you described. The helmet is fake dirty, soiled by Biggio in the clubhouse, not on the field.
Along those same lines, Biggio is Mr. Fake Hustle, getting his uniform dirty to make it look like he’s doing something. It makes me crazy that he has so many people fooled.[/quote]
I respectfully and completely disagree: you can’t ‘fake hustle’ your way to 3,000+ hits in Major League Baseball.[/quote]
One has nothing to do with the other. A player can be both talented and a fake hustler.
Fake hustle is diving for balls or sliding unnecessarily, trying to get dirty and things like that. Jim Edmonds is another big-time fake hustler.[/quote]
Please support your accusations with evidence. I’ve been watching Biggio play since he first came up to the majors, and can’t even begin to fathom from where this premise comes from. But I’d be happy, along with James P. I imagine, to listen to this if you backed it up with some supporting evidence.[/quote]
I’m still waiting for something better than saying “fake hustle” is diving for a ball “unnecessarily”. I’m more willing to believe Robert’s words come from something else other than fact…such as emotion and spite.[/quote]
Emotion and spite? Where do you get that? I am definitely not emotional about these players and have nothing about which to be spiteful. I simply offered my thoughts on a subject.
You Biggio defenders are the ones taking this too seriously. You can’t let your feelings get hurt just because someone else doesn’t like your favorite player. Lighten up, and please be consistent and demand concrete, admissible-in-court evidence from every other person who posts an opinion on this board as well.[/quote]
Biggio is what is NOT wrong with baseball. The guys that play hard for ONE TEAM and never quit. I watched the Astros win the other night (after his 3002nd hit was made ONLY because he ran it out and BEAT the throw. Had he not HUSTLED, we would have never had the chance for that walk-off grand slam! Even when he hits a pop-up fly and he is 99.99999999% out, he still RUNS IT OUT!
I also put pine tar on my helmet for the purpose of using it during an at bat. it is a lot easier to step out and give a little tap..its not for show or to look dirty its part of the game…just like those who wear batting goves and 1 million wrist bands
[quote comment=”114139″][quote comment=”114128″]I’m an Astros fan, and I have been a Biggio “hater” for a few years now because the dude cannot hit a slider to save his life. However, claiming he dosen’t hustle is absolutely moronic and ignorant. Shut your mouth when you don’t know what you are talking about. Ask anyone associated with Major League Baseball: beat writers, announcers, clubhouse personel, managers, opposing players, fans, ANYONE. Biggio is admired for his hustle and grit from everyone in the game. If you are dumb enough to say he is a “fake hustler”, then you just need to keep you hands off your keyboard and not pollute this forum with your ignorance.[/quote]
Do you realize that any point you might have been trying to make was lost in the name-calling and mud-throwing? Why can’t you state your case with maturity, like 99% of the people who post here?[/quote]
I agree. I’m on the opposite side of this issue from Robert, but there’s no need to get ugly and start calling each other names.
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Looks like NBALIVE also noticed that the players wear skirts err I mean shorts.
[quote comment=”114146″][quote comment=”114139″][quote comment=”114128″]I’m an Astros fan, and I have been a Biggio “hater” for a few years now because the dude cannot hit a slider to save his life. However, claiming he dosen’t hustle is absolutely moronic and ignorant. Shut your mouth when you don’t know what you are talking about. Ask anyone associated with Major League Baseball: beat writers, announcers, clubhouse personel, managers, opposing players, fans, ANYONE. Biggio is admired for his hustle and grit from everyone in the game. If you are dumb enough to say he is a “fake hustler”, then you just need to keep you hands off your keyboard and not pollute this forum with your ignorance.[/quote]
Do you realize that any point you might have been trying to make was lost in the name-calling and mud-throwing? Why can’t you state your case with maturity, like 99% of the people who post here?[/quote]
I agree. I’m on the opposite side of this issue from Robert, but there’s no need to get ugly and start calling each other names.[/quote]
Especially since the primary people involved in the debate had already grown-up-edly agreed to disagree.
[quote comment=”114092″][quote comment=”113819″][quote comment=”113808″][quote comment=”113804″]The Colorado Rockies are the first team to sweep both the Mets and Yankees in the same season. Who’da thunk?
I was at Tuesday’s game. What’s with the odd pads Castro had strapped to his calves?[/quote]
link are designed for the catcher to squat more comfortably and to save his legs and knees.[/quote]
I was always lead to believe that Sandy Alomar helped on creating them, but the only thing I can find in print is that he was the first to start using them.
link
Sandy not only had a helping hand in creating them, he invented them for sure. Either one of the earliest versions, or the first version is on display at the Baseball as American exhibit in Cleveland right now with a nod to Alomar Jr. as the inventor.[/quote]
Ah-ha, that’s where I saw it! Was there a few weeks ago. Thanks Vince!
[quote comment=”114133″]. . . how many different uniforms the Astros have. (N.B.: I did *not* initiate this uni-centric conversation.)
I replied that they have five: link, link, never-worn link, link, and link.
I also pointed out that the Phillies are one of the few remaining teams that has only two uniform styles.[/quote]
If they never wear the grays, wouldn’t it make more sense to call the grays “alternate” and the red ones the “road uniform”?
[quote comment=”114154″][quote comment=”114133″]. . . how many different uniforms the Astros have. (N.B.: I did *not* initiate this uni-centric conversation.)
I replied that they have five: link, link, never-worn link, link, and link.
I also pointed out that the Phillies are one of the few remaining teams that has only two uniform styles.[/quote]
If they never wear the grays, wouldn’t it make more sense to call the grays “alternate” and the red ones the “road uniform”?[/quote]
Wouldn’t it make more sense to wear grey on the road like every other team and not have 100 different jersey combos?
anyone have a pic of that red twins alternate jersey from a few years back?
[quote comment=”114094″][quote comment=”114088″]Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?[/quote]
I’m liking this theory the most.[/quote]
But why would Ruth and Gehrig have worn pinned-on 3 and 4 when their regular Yankees jerseys already had 3 and 4 sewn onto them? Something doesn’t add up.
[quote comment=”114158″]anyone have a pic of that red twins alternate jersey from a few years back?[/quote]
Couldn’t find a picture of that one, but does anyone recall the Twins ever wearing these?
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Back to the AFL referees – can someone tell me which teams are playing in this picture:
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I believe it’s the Broncos with the vertically striped socks, but I can’t figure the other team. New York Titans? Oakland Raiders? Thanks for any help.
[quote comment=”114161″]Back to the AFL referees – can someone tell me which teams are playing in this picture:
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I believe it’s the Broncos with the vertically striped socks, but I can’t figure the other team. New York Titans? Oakland Raiders? Thanks for any help.[/quote]
It’s the Raiders alright. Back when Al Davis was still an assistant coach for the Chargers.
[quote comment=”114077″]We’ll have to see what Wright, Reyes, Beltran and Wagner are wearing at the all-star game. Last year they wore the snow-whites with the black and blue caps…blech[/quote]
They have worn that for the All-Star Game for some time. To that end, however, link with the All-Star patch is the blue “home” cap.
[quote comment=”113873″]Paul, I know you’re a fan of the Presidential sports photos. I suggest you look to Cuba where Fidel Castro constantly partakes in baseball.
Yes, I know the Americana in some of you probably doesn’t want to look, but here are some examples.
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Castro has the stirrups on backwards.
The high part goes in the back.
the astros’ cool base jerseys are their red road ones. that is one of the main reasons that they wear the red one’s on the road instead of the gray.
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[quote comment=”114170″]the astros’ cool base jerseys are their red road ones. that is one of the main reasons that they wear the red one’s on the road instead of the gray.[/quote]
Actually the Astros owner likes the red jerseys and that is why they wear them generally on Sundays, and as the road uni…
[quote comment=”114160″][quote comment=”114158″]anyone have a pic of that red twins alternate jersey from a few years back?[/quote]
Couldn’t find a picture of that one, but does anyone recall the Twins ever wearing these?
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anyone remember the year they wore that red alternate?
Interesting article on the incline hill and flagpole in center field at Minute Maid Park:
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james, im not disagreeing, im just wondering, did you read that anywhere about drayton liking the red ones or did you just hear it on the radio or tv?
[quote comment=”114174″][quote comment=”114170″]the astros’ cool base jerseys are their red road ones. that is one of the main reasons that they wear the red one’s on the road instead of the gray.[/quote]
Actually the Astros owner likes the red jerseys and that is why they wear them generally on Sundays, and as the road uni…[/quote]
You’re both right. McLane prefers the red jerseys over the road greys and so consequently when the Cool Base jerseys were issued to teams last year, the Astros chose their red alternates as their Cool Base jersey derivative.
You can see the Cool Base vents under Roy O’s arms here: link
[quote comment=”114179″]james, im not disagreeing, im just wondering, did you read that anywhere about drayton liking the red ones or did you just hear it on the radio or tv?[/quote]
Read it on Astros.com’s weekly notes when the MLB beat writer, Allison Footer, was asked the same question a while back. I have also seen it mentioned on other sites.
Anyone ever figure out what the deal with Barry Zito and the button of the top of his hat was about?
Here’s a pic from June 9th without the button:
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Here’s a pic from June 26 where it appears the button is there:
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[quote comment=”114167″][quote comment=”114077″]We’ll have to see what Wright, Reyes, Beltran and Wagner are wearing at the all-star game. Last year they wore the snow-whites with the black and blue caps…blech[/quote]
They have worn that for the All-Star Game for some time. To that end, however, link with the All-Star patch is the blue “home” cap.[/quote]
I know thats what Mets have worn in the all star games since 1998, I was just making my point of disgust. However, with the patch only affered on the blue cap this is indeed good news and strengthens my theory.
[quote comment=”113904″][quote comment=”113895″][quote comment=”113893″]I’m disappointed the A’s didn’t break out their red, white and blues. I mean, it’s not like the get the opportunity every day.[/quote]
Explain? What Red/White/Blue?
Got a photo?[/quote]
I’m guessing we’re talking about the Kansas City link[/quote]
Nope. The A’s have been wearing a red, white, and blue jersey (that looks nearly identical to the KC jersey, but it’s not a “retro jersey”) on Independence Day for a few years now. For some reason, though, they decided to just throw on a boring flag patch on their hats thid year.
And the Blue Jays were wearing their J hats instead of their T hats yesterday.
[quote comment=”114159″][quote comment=”114094″][quote comment=”114088″]Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?[/quote]
I’m liking this theory the most.[/quote]
But why would Ruth and Gehrig have worn pinned-on 3 and 4 when their regular Yankees jerseys already had 3 and 4 sewn onto them? Something doesn’t add up.[/quote]
Conformity? It is a uniform, so maybe they just forced them all to do it.
Who knows… it is very strange…
Hmmm… Jimmy Carter and Fidel Castro. Now, there’s a couple of screwballs!
My UniWatch t-shirt link. My foosball partner and I came in third, taking home, in my opinion, the best prize, Take 5 Bars:
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Sorry this is totally random.. I was thinking about how I hope the Predators stay in Nashville, but I wish they’d modify/simplify their colors. Something more like the Chargers… just have two or three colors like a lighter blue and a more true yellow. Thoughts anyone?
[quote comment=”114188″][quote comment=”113904″][quote comment=”113895″][quote comment=”113893″]I’m disappointed the A’s didn’t break out their red, white and blues. I mean, it’s not like the get the opportunity every day.[/quote]
Explain? What Red/White/Blue?
Got a photo?[/quote]
I’m guessing we’re talking about the Kansas City link[/quote]
Nope. The A’s have been wearing a red, white, and blue jersey (that looks nearly identical to the KC jersey, but it’s not a “retro jersey”) on Independence Day for a few years now. For some reason, though, they decided to just throw on a boring flag patch on their hats thid year.
And the Blue Jays were wearing their J hats instead of their T hats yesterday.[/quote]
No idea how I didn’t know this. Cool. Anyone have a photo?
[quote comment=”114122″][quote comment=”114076″]link guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about, especially when it comes to the Ravens and the 49ers.[/quote]
This is one of the worst columns I’ve ever read.[/quote]
1. Browns have one of the best uniforms.
2. 49ers uniforms are just classic and awesome.
3. He obviously doesn’t realize that the Saints have gone all black.
4. Read this:
“After much pondering, wondering and deliberating, I have decided that if I had an NFL franchise, I would have the uniforms be all black. The helmets would be all black with nothing on them. All players would be forced to wear mirrored visors over their face masks and no one would wear socks. The colors would be the same on the road as well as at home. The name of the team would be The Jay Mohr’s. Unless they started a really long losing streak. Then they would be changed to the Black Cardinals.”
All black uniform = cool
All black helmet with nothing on it = retarded
No one wearing socks = idiotic
The Jay Mohr’s? = absolutely dumb
Black Cardinals? = even worse
Overall, terrible article.
[quote comment=”114133″]
I also pointed out that the Phillies are one of the few remaining teams that has only two uniform styles.[/quote]
Of course, the Phillies do have the alternate blue-brimmed cap for interleague games, so I don’t know if that counts or not.
hey, take a look at #33 of the broncos in the shot: link
weren’t we led to believe that the afl always had players names on the backs?? if so, then is this photo from an exhibition game, or possibly this photo is from 1960, and the nameplates were NOT mandatory???
[quote comment=”114197″]hey, take a look at #33 of the broncos in the shot: link
weren’t we led to believe that the afl always had players names on the backs?? if so, then is this photo from an exhibition game, or possibly this photo is from 1960, and the nameplates were NOT mandatory???[/quote]
link has a shot of a Broncos/Oilers game from 1960. It looks to me that neither team is wearing names.
[quote comment=”114078″][quote comment=”113887″][quote comment=”113818″]Biggio’s helmet used to look worse then that! I remember back around 2000 someone locally or on ESPN made so many jokes about the amount of pine tar on his lid that he actually cleaned his helmet to make it less grungy. Now, it still looked dirty, but you could see the Astros logo on the front a little better and that’s the way he has been ever since.
Side note, but why doesn’t Dressed to the Nines have the solid red with the gold star on the left breast(can’t find an image right now), link, or link?[/quote]
Thats one thing I’d love to see the league get on guys about. Every helmet must be clean before the game, and if its gets pinetar on it during the game its gotta get cleaned off. before you are up again. It looks like crap.[/quote]
1) Many players that have dirty helmets do so becasue they keep pine tar up there that they can use during an at bat (see most players who dont wear batting gloves). You would then have batters running between the on deck and the batter box between pitches to get some stickyness on their hands 2) What would be the penalty if ones helment was not “clean”? an automatic out? does he get thrown out of the game? What determines “clean” is that at the umps discretion?[/quote]
Maybe they should consult George Brett.
Not sure if it’s been linked to but Trevor Hoffman explains his uniform number at the bottom of this link for the baseball hall of fame.
[quote comment=”114093″][quote comment=”114042″]This is a few days old, but I didn’t see any mention of it when I searched Uni Watch.
Golfer Brian Bateman won the Buick Open this past Sunday, and he was wearing a Miami Dolphins shirt.
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It isn’t the first time a player has won wearing NFL apparel. Ben Curtis won the Booz Allen Classic last year wearing a Washington Redskins outfit and the 84 Lumber Classic in Sept. 2006 wearing a Pittsburgh Steelers outfit.[/quote]
More significantly, the late Payne Stewart had a sponsorship agreement with NFL Properties for several years, and linkof the NFL team nearest a tournament course.[/quote]
I LOVED those outfits, especially the knickers he wore with them (and the high socks). Would love to see someone pick up where he left off with those.
[quote comment=”114133″]Fake hustle? What the hell are you guys talking about? Who cares how much Biggio grimaces when he’s going from first to third on a single, as long as he gets there. Results, people.
True Uni Stories: at Wednesday’s Phils/’Stros game at Dick Cheney Field, the guy sitting next to me, upon hearing from his female companion that the Astros were wearing different uniforms than they’d worn on Tuesday, asked me how many different uniforms the Astros have. (N.B.: I did *not* initiate this uni-centric conversation.)
I replied that they have five: link, link, never-worn link, link, and link.
I also pointed out that the Phillies are one of the few remaining teams that has only two uniform styles.[/quote]
Thankfully.
But they DO have the interleague caps.
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[quote comment=”114194″][quote comment=”114122″][quote comment=”114076″]link guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about, especially when it comes to the Ravens and the 49ers.[/quote]
This is one of the worst columns I’ve ever read.[/quote]
1. Browns have one of the best uniforms.
2. 49ers uniforms are just classic and awesome.
3. He obviously doesn’t realize that the Saints have gone all black.
4. Read this:
“After much pondering, wondering and deliberating, I have decided that if I had an NFL franchise, I would have the uniforms be all black. The helmets would be all black with nothing on them. All players would be forced to wear mirrored visors over their face masks and no one would wear socks. The colors would be the same on the road as well as at home. The name of the team would be The Jay Mohr’s. Unless they started a really long losing streak. Then they would be changed to the Black Cardinals.”
All black uniform = cool
All black helmet with nothing on it = retarded
No one wearing socks = idiotic
The Jay Mohr’s? = absolutely dumb
Black Cardinals? = even worse
Overall, terrible article.[/quote]
The Ravens also have gone all black once or twice (no pics)/
[quote comment=”114213″][quote comment=”114194″][quote comment=”114122″][quote comment=”114076″]link guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about, especially when it comes to the Ravens and the 49ers.[/quote]
This is one of the worst columns I’ve ever read.[/quote]
1. Browns have one of the best uniforms.
2. 49ers uniforms are just classic and awesome.
3. He obviously doesn’t realize that the Saints have gone all black.
4. Read this:
“After much pondering, wondering and deliberating, I have decided that if I had an NFL franchise, I would have the uniforms be all black. The helmets would be all black with nothing on them. All players would be forced to wear mirrored visors over their face masks and no one would wear socks. The colors would be the same on the road as well as at home. The name of the team would be The Jay Mohr’s. Unless they started a really long losing streak. Then they would be changed to the Black Cardinals.”
All black uniform = cool
All black helmet with nothing on it = retarded
No one wearing socks = idiotic
The Jay Mohr’s? = absolutely dumb
Black Cardinals? = even worse
Overall, terrible article.[/quote]
The Ravens also have gone all black once or twice (no pics)/[/quote]
Here’s link.
Here’s link.
Here’s link.
[quote comment=”114212″][quote comment=”114133″]Fake hustle? What the hell are you guys talking about? Who cares how much Biggio grimaces when he’s going from first to third on a single, as long as he gets there. Results, people.
True Uni Stories: at Wednesday’s Phils/’Stros game at Dick Cheney Field, the guy sitting next to me, upon hearing from his female companion that the Astros were wearing different uniforms than they’d worn on Tuesday, asked me how many different uniforms the Astros have. (N.B.: I did *not* initiate this uni-centric conversation.)
I replied that they have five: link, link, never-worn link, link, and link.
I also pointed out that the Phillies are one of the few remaining teams that has only two uniform styles.[/quote]
Thankfully.
But they DO have the interleague caps.
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Which brings up the question, does a different cap count as a whole different uni?
And why would you need a different cap just for interleague?
[quote comment=”114159″][quote comment=”114094″][quote comment=”114088″]Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?[/quote]
I’m liking this theory the most.[/quote]
But why would Ruth and Gehrig have worn pinned-on 3 and 4 when their regular Yankees jerseys already had 3 and 4 sewn onto them? Something doesn’t add up.[/quote]
Were they wearing Yankees jerseys or AL jerseys?
I just ordered a wool 59/fifty off of the internet. It is 100% wool but has the black underbill. Anybody know what is going on here?
[quote comment=”114223″]I just ordered a wool 59/fifty off of the internet. It is 100% wool but has the black underbill. Anybody know what is going on here?[/quote]
Is it an Angels cap or a fashion cap?
[quote comment=”113827″]Wow – with red already in the color scheme, the AAA Rochester Redwings wouldn’t have had to stretch too much for 4th of July jerseys. But link are really bad.[/quote]
What makes it even worse is that the Red Wings have such tremendous inspiration in town: The impeccably dressed Rochester Americans:
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[quote comment=”114189″][quote comment=”114159″][quote comment=”114094″][quote comment=”114088″]Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?[/quote]
I’m liking this theory the most.[/quote]
But why would Ruth and Gehrig have worn pinned-on 3 and 4 when their regular Yankees jerseys already had 3 and 4 sewn onto them? Something doesn’t add up.[/quote]
Conformity? It is a uniform, so maybe they just forced them all to do it.
Who knows… it is very strange…[/quote]
I was thinking along these lines as well…. perhaps they simply had a roster of ALL STAR uni #’s and gave the list to a kid with a box of safety pins, told him to put em on the jerseys. Kid didn’t wanna get yelled at so he did it.
[quote comment=”114077″][quote comment=”114069″][quote comment=”113850″]I thought I read somewhere (ambiguous enough?) that the Mets starting pitcher gets to pick the uni set the team will wear for that game.[/quote]
I can speak only for what I know of the Angels. They allow the starting pitcher to choose the jersey. Kelvim has requested the red alts all season because he has gotten some good run support in them. I imagine many other teams allow this practice.[/quote]
Oh, I forgot to respond to this. The Mets equipment manager Charlie Samuels decides on the Uni. Also since the Mets were told to start wearing the BP caps during BP they also wore the blue cap during home games. 5 straight games, then they went on their current road trip. I’m hoping the mlb also told them to wear their home cap at home and their road cap on the road. We’ll have to see what Wright, Reyes, Beltran and Wagner are wearing at the all-star game. Last year they wore the snow-whites with the black and blue caps…blech[/quote]
Twins pitcher Boof Bonser wears the alternate navy jersey everytime he pitches. He is the only one that does that. Carlos Silva used to be a big fan of the navy jerseys in year’s past and as far as I remember, he’s the only one who ever wore the red alternate cap. It is still listed as an alternate, but they have not worn it this year. They may have worn it once last year (Silva I think) but I’m not sure. Anyone have any more specific info on that?
[quote comment=”114077″][quote comment=”114069″][quote comment=”113850″]I thought I read somewhere (ambiguous enough?) that the Mets starting pitcher gets to pick the uni set the team will wear for that game.[/quote]
I can speak only for what I know of the Angels. They allow the starting pitcher to choose the jersey. Kelvim has requested the red alts all season because he has gotten some good run support in them. I imagine many other teams allow this practice.[/quote]
Oh, I forgot to respond to this. The Mets equipment manager Charlie Samuels decides on the Uni. Also since the Mets were told to start wearing the BP caps during BP they also wore the blue cap during home games. 5 straight games, then they went on their current road trip. I’m hoping the mlb also told them to wear their home cap at home and their road cap on the road. We’ll have to see what Wright, Reyes, Beltran and Wagner are wearing at the all-star game. Last year they wore the snow-whites with the black and blue caps…blech[/quote]
I don’t follow the Mets too closely, but based on the poor sartorial choices of their equipment manager, perhaps instead of the “Ditch the Black” campaign (Which I completely agree with), there should be a ditch Charlie Samuels campaign. Hope I’m not offending any Mets fans here.
I would like to see league-wide a serious curbing of the alternate unis. What started out as a niche thing that a few teams did once in a while has gotten way out of hand and become a ridiculous merchandising ploy. It’s mind-numbing to try to figure out the likes of the Diamondbacks, Astros, Rockies and Mets.
[quote comment=”114193″][quote comment=”114188″][quote comment=”113904″][quote comment=”113895″][quote comment=”113893″]I’m disappointed the A’s didn’t break out their red, white and blues. I mean, it’s not like the get the opportunity every day.[/quote]
Explain? What Red/White/Blue?
Got a photo?[/quote]
I’m guessing we’re talking about the Kansas City link[/quote]
Nope. The A’s have been wearing a red, white, and blue jersey (that looks nearly identical to the KC jersey, but it’s not a “retro jersey”) on Independence Day for a few years now. For some reason, though, they decided to just throw on a boring flag patch on their hats thid year.
And the Blue Jays were wearing their J hats instead of their T hats yesterday.[/quote]
No idea how I didn’t know this. Cool. Anyone have a photo?[/quote]
I link (well, someone at Athletics Nation found it for me). They only wore them in 2001 (at least, that’s the most recent date that I could find pictures of the game), and they only produced about 250 for sale to the public.
Here’s an link I found, of the July 4, 2002 game. Hatteberg has his stick-on flag patch on the normal side of his hat, but since Ramon Hernandez wears his helmet backwards, the sticker ends up on the wrong side of his head.
Paul Kariya threw out the first pitch at a Cardinals game on 7/3/07:
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[quote comment=”114227″][quote comment=”114223″]I just ordered a wool 59/fifty off of the internet. It is 100% wool but has the black underbill. Anybody know what is going on here?[/quote]
Is it an Angels cap or a fashion cap?[/quote]
No, I’m guessing “official,” site unseen. First off, you know an official on-field New Era hat if it doesn’t have an external New Era logo (Major Leagues only–this rule does not apply to the minors). Secondly, before everybody got black under-bills, gray was the under-bill color of most teams. Exceptions: the Seattle Mariners, some of the Texas Rangers, Orel Hershiser, and the Angels. No pictures, but Mr. Lukas lamented this fact when he predicted the decline of under-bill graffiti.
This is more like a Useless Info column, but what is the record for comments on a UniWatch post? We are approaching 240 today.
[quote comment=”114285″]This is more like a Useless Info column, but what is the record for comments on a UniWatch post? We are approaching 240 today.[/quote]
I think I recall a 300+ post day.
I think I’ve found the reason the flag stickers don’t stay on the hats is because the players whose flags have fallen off are mostly pitchers who, to my knowledge, sweat a lot and it must wear down the glue, causing the flag to fall off.
Talk about logo creep:
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NO NAME ALERT
Reds/Giants game, the new pitcher for the Giants (I believe his name is Atchison [?sp]) had his contract purchased today or yesterday . . . well, lo and behold, he has no name on the back of his jersey. He is wearing #52 . . . sorry no pic.
Scott Atchison, called up TUESDAY by the Giants, is pitching in the bottom of the 8th at Cinci right now and has NO last name on the back of his jersey. Come on..he’s been up since Tuesday?! I realize yesterday was a holiday, but sheesh..
Re: today’s column.
Is it possible that the league did not want any duplicate numbers on the team so they gave everyone a piece of fabric with a number to cover the one they usually wore?
I’m liking this theory the most.
But why would Ruth and Gehrig have worn pinned-on 3 and 4 when their regular Yankees jerseys already had 3 and 4 sewn onto them? Something doesn’t add up.
Conformity? It is a uniform, so maybe they just forced them all to do it.
Who knows… it is very strange…
“Uniformity”? No special rules for anyone on the team. Everyone gets an extra number panel
[quote comment=”114301″]Scott Atchison, called up TUESDAY by the Giants, is pitching in the bottom of the 8th at Cinci right now and has NO last name on the back of his jersey. Come on..he’s been up since Tuesday?! I realize yesterday was a holiday, but sheesh..[/quote]
wow, i didn’t know he had been up since Tuesday. it also looks like the Beck patch is missing from his sleeve.
[quote comment=”114301″]Scott Atchison, called up TUESDAY by the Giants, is pitching in the bottom of the 8th at Cinci right now and has NO last name on the back of his jersey. Come on..he’s been up since Tuesday?! I realize yesterday was a holiday, but sheesh..[/quote]
The Giants are notorious for this. Happened as far back as when Kevin Mitchell joined the team in 1987 against Chicago
re: Biggio
Hustle/fake hustle issues aside, he’s a Hall Of Famer. 3,000 hits will do that to a guy.
But seriously, he needs to retire. Now. His numbers are pretty brutal, and for a leadoff hitter they’re atrocious. 64 Ks to 17 walks? .258/.301/.402? Yikes. And he’s blocking Chris Burke, among others, by sticking around. Hate to say it, but the Astros would be much better with him on the bench.
You’ve all link of link But did anyone realize he was sporting link? Honestly, this was the first time I’ve noticed them.
EDIT: Just googled for more pics of him, and I dumbly link he’d link (btw, that pic is when he was on the link) for link.
oops…Jacksonville Tars
[quote comment=”114328″]You’ve all link of link But did anyone realize he was sporting link? Honestly, this was the first time I’ve noticed them.
EDIT: Just googled for more pics of him, and I dumbly link he’d link (btw, that pic is when he was on the link) for link.[/quote]
No real surprise; everyone wore them at that time.
[quote comment=”113849″]I was at the Nationals Cubs game yesterday and saw the Nats LF, Robert Fink not only wearing his socks high, he was definately wearing stirrups. I do not know if these were real, or fake, but they were most certainly a darker color than the other two Nats who wore their socks up.
stirrups are on the way back. Our local team played the Dayton Dragons last week and I noticed they are all in stirrups. My boys asked me why they were wearing those “weird sock things”. See link and link
[quote comment=”114301″]Scott Atchison, called up TUESDAY by the Giants, is pitching in the bottom of the 8th at Cinci right now and has NO last name on the back of his jersey. Come on..he’s been up since Tuesday?! I realize yesterday was a holiday, but sheesh..[/quote]
link is a blurry picture of #52 for the Giants with no name on his uniform. I thought it looked odd that he had no name on his back. I didn’t realize it was him pitching during the game. It’s hard to see the pitcher’s back from the 3rd level almost directly behind the plate.
link a random photo of a pretty cool baseball uniform as posted to Shorpy.
[quote comment=”114321″]re: Biggio
Hustle/fake hustle issues aside, he’s a Hall Of Famer. 3,000 hits will do that to a guy.
But seriously, he needs to retire. Now. His numbers are pretty brutal, and for a leadoff hitter they’re atrocious. 64 Ks to 17 walks? .258/.301/.402? Yikes. And he’s blocking Chris Burke, among others, by sticking around. Hate to say it, but the Astros would be much better with him on the bench.[/quote]
Well, you know they werent going to bench him before he got to 3,000. Maybe now with him struggling, the team struggling too, you’ll see a youth movement
[quote comment=”114397″][quote comment=”114321″]re: Biggio
Hustle/fake hustle issues aside, he’s a Hall Of Famer. 3,000 hits will do that to a guy.
But seriously, he needs to retire. Now. His numbers are pretty brutal, and for a leadoff hitter they’re atrocious. 64 Ks to 17 walks? .258/.301/.402? Yikes. And he’s blocking Chris Burke, among others, by sticking around. Hate to say it, but the Astros would be much better with him on the bench.[/quote]
Well, you know they werent going to bench him before he got to 3,000. Maybe now with him struggling, the team struggling too, you’ll see a youth movement[/quote]
If he needs to be moved down in the order, that’s fine, but he is the best thing to ever happen to that franchise. Give the guy a little respect.
BTW, I’m a Giants fan who always hated Biggio, probably mostly out of jealousy that he wasn’t on my team.
[quote comment=”114207″][quote comment=”114093″][quote comment=”114042″]This is a few days old, but I didn’t see any mention of it when I searched Uni Watch.
Golfer Brian Bateman won the Buick Open this past Sunday, and he was wearing a Miami Dolphins shirt.
link
It isn’t the first time a player has won wearing NFL apparel. Ben Curtis won the Booz Allen Classic last year wearing a Washington Redskins outfit and the 84 Lumber Classic in Sept. 2006 wearing a Pittsburgh Steelers outfit.[/quote]
More significantly, the late Payne Stewart had a sponsorship agreement with NFL Properties for several years, and linkof the NFL team nearest a tournament course.[/quote]
I LOVED those outfits, especially the knickers he wore with them (and the high socks). Would love to see someone pick up where he left off with those.[/quote]
link, not knickers