The Departed

Good luck with the green Galant, Paul.
You should take it cross-country on the Uni tour.

Wow, you asked for a picture of a bloody jersey, and nobody sent you this-

Chris

During the Cardinals game last night on ESPN they mentioned that Tim Hudson lost his grandmother and former college teammate Josh Hancock on Sunday. Not sure how to check this but maybe the “JH” had two meanings.

[quote comment=”79026″]I think they mentioned on Baseball Tonight that Huddie had permission from the Commish’s office to wear Hancock’s initials on his jersey.[/quote]

Yes, they did.

I remember the baseball episode of DS9. The uniforms were actually pretty nice, but I would have preferred the Starfleet team wear red or black caps with the combadge logo embroidered on the front, rather than the much-too-busy embroidery they actually used.

The Vulcan “Logicians” cap logo is the Vulcan IDIC symbol (“Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations”), which originally appeared in the original series (I forget which episode) and was essentially designed to be sold commercially, launching the STAR TREK merchandising franchise. You can see the same symbol rendered in mosaic on the wall of Spock’s quarters in The Wrath of Khan.

Baseball was a common motif on the show, as Cmdr./Capt. Sisko was a huge baseball fan. In the pilot episode, he used baseball to explain the concept of linear time to the wormhole aliens. There were many references to him and Jake playing ball or watching classic games in the holosuites, and he kept a baseball on his office desk which he was often seen holding during meetings.

[quote comment=”79030″]During the Cardinals game last night on ESPN they mentioned that Tim Hudson lost his grandmother and former college teammate Josh Hancock on Sunday. Not sure how to check this but maybe the “JH” had two meanings.[/quote]

Yeah, I read that Hudson was honoring his departed grandmother also. From ESPN-“Before every inning, he scribbled the letters VM in the dirt with his cleats.” It goes on later to explain those were her initials.

In the Cubs picture, what was the 34 for? Woods isn’t dead. Maybe one of his many trips to the DL?

[quote comment=”79027″]Wow, you asked for a picture of a bloody jersey, and nobody sent you this-

Chris[/quote]

???

I think that was the most mentioned incident.

In fact, that link is linked in Paul’s link sidebar story.

Was the 34 on the Cubs picture for Kirby Puckett? I remember a few players on teams other than the Twins did this.

[quote comment=”79044″]In the Cubs picture, what was the 34 for? Woods isn’t dead. Maybe one of his many trips to the DL?[/quote]

Kirby Puckett maybe?

I can certainly understand what Hudson did.

Back in high school, a friend of mine, who was on our school’s tennis team had a brain anurysm and died in the middle of a match. Needless to say, when a 17-year old friend dies like that it’s a shock.

At that time I was the goalie on our lacrosse team and my way of honoring him was to wear these large wrist bands with his name on them. I did it all season long.

I think the just of what I’m trying to say is that I can see both sides of this argument. I can see Tim Hudson’s desire to wear JH so large and I can see Paul’s argument that the tribute was too much.

[quote comment=”79035″][quote comment=”79031″]Wow. I love the column, but a pill is just one word for it, Paul. Why do you care how a guy chooses to remember his friend, as long as it’s within reason?[/quote]

Yeah that is pretty ridiculous…he should be able to do whatever he wants, without question. I thought it looked good.[/quote]

I don’t see the big deal with this tribute to JH either.

Is it just me or it there a link going on with the new link jerseys. You can see it link if click on the show larger boxes on the screen.

Here’s a 2006 link of Cla Meredith hauling the girly backpack behind him.

[quote comment=”79061″]Another reason why I like MLB more than the NFL. Remember when the league wouldn’t let Jake Plummer wear a small sticker on his helmet for one of his fallen teammates? (can’t remember who it was, but it was 2-3 years ago..) Yet Selig doesn’t have a problem with a huge tribute like Hudson showed last night. And that’s the way it should be. Bravo, MLB.[/quote]

It was for Pat Tillman…

[quote comment=”79068″]To clarify: Culturally speaking, our society tends toward memorials that are low-key and dignified (unless you’re in New Orleans, in which case they throw a big party). Hudson’s massive “JH” struck me as neither of these. The effect borders on “look at me” territory, although I’m sure that wasn’t his intent. It’s just so damn big! Let’s put it this way: If I die tomorrow, I sincerely hope nobody will wear a giant “PL” like that.

I don’t mean to sound insensitive, and of course Hudson should be able to salute his friend however he chooses. I’m just assessing it from an aesthetic standpoint.[/quote]

I do also think the “JH” was a little big (ok…it was WAY big). It looks like a sponsor on an NFLE or soccer (futbol) in europe. But…I also think its alright that he chose to do it, and better that he wasn’t fined for it (No Fun League).

[quote comment=”79068″] It’s just so damn big! Let’s put it this way: If I die tomorrow, I sincerely hope nobody will wear a giant “PL” like that.
[/quote]

I am quite sure that when Paul does go, no one will be able to see the tribute we should be wearing to honor Paul. After all who would see my stirrups if I am wearing slacks to work.

I think a donation to Philly Textile would be appropriate as well.

I wonder why it took the Reds so long to retire Concepcion’s number? He played for them for 19 seasons. Also, I thought they had retired Rose’s #14, but it wasn’t mentioned in that article.

I know the SF Giants don’t retire a number unless the player has been voted in to the HOF, which is strange logic. You are essentially letting the sportswriters decide if you should honor one of your own employees.

[quote comment=”79039″]Judging from the look of the font, the “JH” on Hudson’s jersey appears to use the same letters as the Braves’ nameplates. Probably its a result of it being an hastily made and unofficial tribute.[/quote]

Yeah, I’d say he didn’t think, “Boy, I’d like a huge JH on my jersey over my heart.” It was probably more along the lines of, “Hey, equipment manager, do you have a J and an H you can stitch into my hersey over my heart?”…and the equip mgr found a J and an H (normally used for nameplates) and went to work. Maybe equipment managers should keep a bunch of small letters lying around for occasions like this.

You can see a picture of Jonathan Papelbon wearing the pink back here

[quote comment=”79074″]Semi-Uni related (and I haven’t seen it on this site yet) but UCF which dropped the “Golden” from their name has applied for some trademark logos. The new “possible” school logo (sure to show up on uni’s eventually) can be found link. Theres no color (but that’s been the norm for UCF logos in the past too…[/quote]

That was posted here on April 16th, the date of that article. Sorry.

[quote comment=”79078″][quote comment=”79033″]The Browns players have their link…. also, I found this pretty cool site on the link[/quote]

I don’t think the NFL is going to let an Offensive Tackle wear ‘1’…

ed[/quote]

He probably didn’t decide on a jersey number yet, since he was too busy fishing…….

Just to add-on to the bit about the bullpen bag… the Twins also make the rookie bring the bag out, and it’s also ridiculous. In making my annual trip to KC, I snapped link pic of Glen Perkins carrying a Spongebob dufflebag to the pen. Last year, I got link of Pat Neshek Carrying the Barbie backpack (you can clearly see it’s pink, but can’t clearly see that it’s Barbie, but it is).

And how about link handsome devil in a good lookin’ jersey?!

Here are the Sox rookies of 2 years ago in drag
link
On the far left is Papelbon, then the next one is Manny Delcarmen, currently in Pawtucket in AAA… not sure the other guys names

[quote comment=”79088″][quote comment=”79078″][quote comment=”79033″]The Browns players have their link…. also, I found this pretty cool site on the link[/quote]

I don’t think the NFL is going to let an Offensive Tackle wear ‘1’…

ed[/quote]

He probably didn’t decide on a jersey number yet, since he was too busy fishing…….[/quote]
I think Joe Thomas and link are the same guy.

[quote comment=”79090″]Just to add-on to the bit about the bullpen bag… the Twins also make the rookie bring the bag out, and it’s also ridiculous. In making my annual trip to KC, I snapped link pic of Glen Perkins carrying a Spongebob dufflebag to the pen. Last year, I got link of Pat Neshek Carrying the Barbie backpack (you can clearly see it’s pink, but can’t clearly see that it’s Barbie, but it is).

And how about link handsome devil in a good lookin’ jersey?![/quote]
(shaking my head)…Boof Bonser, Francisco Liriano AND Joe Nathan for AJ Pierzynski. How does Brian Sabean of the Giants still have a job?

I for one second PL’s thoughts about Hudson’s JH patch. I’ll even go further (yes, I’ve been called worse than a pill) and suggest that the entire Athletes Mourning thing is overdone — it looks to me like the players/teams/etc are exclaiming “Look over here, we’re mourning too! Don’t forget about us!” I realize that people aren’t robots and we all have our own ways of grieving, but these guys are professionals, too. That means they have to adjust when they step onto the playing field. Some things should be left in the clubhouse, IMHO.

FWIW, I think Manning had it right when Johnny U died and he tried to celebrate the man’s life by wearing black cleats a la Unitas.

Oops, I forgot to mention that prior to this season, Nebraska wore some nifty striped socks as well. I was sad to see them go.

#14 is not retired by the Reds, though my guess is that nobody would want it—both out of respect for the legacy and to avoid the infamy.

How long before the Reds retire #11 for Barry Larkin? That number seems a done deal. I would also retire #44 for Eric Davis, but they may not (since he likely isn’t going to the Hall, while Larkin will probably get there eventually).

[quote comment=”79102″][quote comment=”79090″]Just to add-on to the bit about the bullpen bag… the Twins also make the rookie bring the bag out, and it’s also ridiculous. In making my annual trip to KC, I snapped link pic of Glen Perkins carrying a Spongebob dufflebag to the pen. Last year, I got link of Pat Neshek Carrying the Barbie backpack (you can clearly see it’s pink, but can’t clearly see that it’s Barbie, but it is).

And how about link handsome devil in a good lookin’ jersey?![/quote]
(shaking my head)…Boof Bonser, Francisco Liriano AND Joe Nathan for AJ Pierzynski. How does Brian Sabean of the Giants still have a job?[/quote]

Hahahahahaha! Even with Liriano down for the count, the Giants wuz robbed!

Didn’t Manning get fined for his tribute to JU or told to desist?

>Didn’t Manning get fined for his tribute to JU or told to desist?

He was threatened with a $25k fine and didn’t do it. Someone on the Ravens did change his cleats, but was only hit with a $5k fine. So sez wikipedia…

10:30 AM and already 61 postings!

Minna, I believe that Manning was not allowed to wear black sneakers and did not. I believe that was reserved to Baltimore. (A silly ruling, if you ask me.)

Todd, send me an e-mail at my personal address: link (since this isn’t legal work) and I’ll get you some info.

[quote comment=”79066″]Is it just me or it there a link going on with the new link jerseys. You can see it link if click on the show larger boxes on the screen.[/quote]

Correct you are — and what a fantastically cool detail that is. Nice catch.

I found some great striped stirups on my high school alma matter’s site. Check them out.

[quote comment=”79110″]How long before the Reds retire #11 for Barry Larkin? That number seems a done deal. I would also retire #44 for Eric Davis, but they may not (since he likely isn’t going to the Hall, while Larkin will probably get there eventually).[/quote]

Larkin is an automatic, while Eric Davis . . . I’m not sure. Probably not, since another guy who had some great years for the Reds, George Foster, has not been so honored.

As for timing, the Reds are seemingly never in a hurry to retire numbers. It might take another few years for Larkin to get nod.

[quote comment=”79122″][quote comment=”79066″]Is it just me or it there a link going on with the new link jerseys. You can see it link if click on the show larger boxes on the screen.[/quote]

Correct you are — and what a fantastically cool detail that is. Nice catch.[/quote]

On further reflection, though, two things occur to me: those jerseys haven’t been manufactured yet, so the pictures on the site are just digital mockups. There’s a chance that the actual production models will go the easy route.

Also, we both confused vertical and radial. The pictures show radial arching, what we like and hope for is vertical arching. Easy mistake to make.

[quote comment=”79122″][quote comment=”79066″]Is it just me or it there a link going on with the new link jerseys. You can see it link if click on the show larger boxes on the screen.[/quote]

Correct you are — and what a fantastically cool detail that is. Nice catch.[/quote]

This drives me crazy…we have discussed the link a 1000 times!

I am not convinced that the jerseys have any arch to them, even though the long surnames appear to be VERTICALLY arched. Look at link, there is no arch. I think we are just seeing the contour of the hanging shirt making it appear arched.

All this talk of rookie hazing reminds me of the uni-centric rookie hazing that link.

[quote comment=”79132″][quote comment=”79122″][quote comment=”79066″]Is it just me or it there a link going on with the new link jerseys. You can see it link if click on the show larger boxes on the screen.[/quote]

Correct you are — and what a fantastically cool detail that is. Nice catch.[/quote]

This drives me crazy…we have discussed the link a 1000 times!

I am not convinced that the jerseys have any arch to them, even though the long surnames appear to be VERTICALLY arched. Look at link, there is no arch. I think we are just seeing the contour of the hanging shirt making it appear arched.[/quote]

Calm down there, Joe. I already corrected my mistake before you posted.

On the subject of the Peyton Manning Unitas tribute, didn’t the Colts wind up switching to black cleats the following year?

They (speaking of the Colts) would have close to a perfect uniform if they would go back to their striped socks.

[quote comment=”79048″][quote comment=”79031″]Some players may inscribe the deceased’s link onto their caps.[/quote]

kerry wood died?[/quote]

No, but his career has pretty much bitten the big one…

[quote comment=”79146″][quote comment=”79132″][quote comment=”79122″][quote comment=”79066″]Is it just me or it there a link going on with the new link jerseys. You can see it link if click on the show larger boxes on the screen.[/quote]

Correct you are — and what a fantastically cool detail that is. Nice catch.[/quote]

This drives me crazy…we have discussed the link a 1000 times!

I am not convinced that the jerseys have any arch to them, even though the long surnames appear to be VERTICALLY arched. Look at link, there is no arch. I think we are just seeing the contour of the hanging shirt making it appear arched.[/quote]

Your link is to a replica jersey, not the authentic one. The authentic ones are arched. Yea, and calm down.[/quote]

Sorry bout that guys…just frustrating when it’s a concept concepts Paul has addressed a whole bunch…

Anyway, I’m not sure that a vertically arched football nameplate would look good or not??? I’d have to see it on the field. Off the top of my head I can’t think of any team that has used it before??

link

[quote comment=”79153″]A’s rookie hazing from a year or two ago.

Note Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton dressed as matching plug and socket. Overtones? Nah, not much.

link

link

link

link[/quote]

Is that a Black Label Society tattoo on Swisher (I am assuming that Swisher in the guy in the middle)?

[quote comment=”79148″]Also, you can check the link to the authentic Ward jersey from my original post, his name is vertically arched. It think the fact that the replica jerseys are not arched while the authentic ones are seems to indicate that the real jerseys will in fact be arched, which I think is kind of neat detail.[/quote]

There is nothing worse than a replica that is link than and authentic! The point of a replica to to replicate as closely as possible the real thing using more affordable methods.

im gonna chime in on the JH on hudson, then (ill try to) shut up about it.

i cant speak for paul, but my interpretation of his entry today WAS:
a. tim hudson wore a tribute patch(es) on his uniform.
b. pretty unique in that it was on the chest of his jersey.
c. it was large.

im sure that if any team or player would have done something similar in size and location, for any reason (tribute, anniversary, championship, et al) it would have been written about and criticized, if not by PL then by one of the readers.

i cant speak for paul, but my interpretation of his entry WAS NOT:
a. damn you tim hudson for having feelings for a loved one.
b. how could you even think of wanting to to pay tribute to a former roommate.
c. if those were the only size letters you could find, you should have passed.

patch on guys uni–its big, real big–fodder for my blog.
thats it.

[quote comment=”79031″]Wow. I love the column, but a pill is just one word for it, Paul. Why do you care how a guy chooses to remember his friend, as long as it’s within reason?[/quote]

Becuase that was beyond reason, it looked like crap.

[quote comment=”79160″][quote comment=”79129″]Why is it that Tim Hudson pays tribute to an old college buddy who tragically dies and gets shit on by Paul and a few other people, but everybody praised the out of control Jackie Robinson thing?
There was absolutely nothing wrong with what Tim Hudson did, there is a lot of negativity in here.[/quote]

Broker, you missed the point entirely. The tribute isn’t the issue. It was a size issue… as if Hudson was using his jersey to be a billboard. “I hate to be a pill, but couldn’t he have worn a simple sleeve patch like the Cardinals did” says it all: a small JH on the sleeve would have sufficed.

I’m all for honouring teammates and family members, but the JH covered his entire left shoulder. Hockey players don’t wear the captain’s “C” or alternate captain’s “A” that big.[/quote]
We are talking about a death here, who cares what you look like, or what you do to pay your respects, speaking of missing the point; “Hockey players don’t wear the captain’s “C” or alternate captain’s “A” that big”.-> has nothing to do with this subject.

[quote comment=”79160″][quote comment=”79129″]Why is it that Tim Hudson pays tribute to an old college buddy who tragically dies and gets shit on by Paul and a few other people, but everybody praised the out of control Jackie Robinson thing?
There was absolutely nothing wrong with what Tim Hudson did, there is a lot of negativity in here.[/quote]

Broker, you missed the point entirely. The tribute isn’t the issue. It was a size issue… as if Hudson was using his jersey to be a billboard. “I hate to be a pill, but couldn’t he have worn a simple sleeve patch like the Cardinals did” says it all: a small JH on the sleeve would have sufficed.

I’m all for honouring teammates and family members, but the JH covered his entire left shoulder. Hockey players don’t wear the captain’s “C” or alternate captain’s “A” that big.[/quote]

Very well asid, Teebz. I am not dissing Hudson for his tribute; I am just saying the letters could be read by a pilot of a blimp fliyng overhead. As other people speculated, it was probably a time issue–getting it done quickly, but there had to be a way to make it smaller.

I have to admit, when I saw the pic of the jerseys in the dugout and the bullpen, I thought it was a bit much, but from a humanistic view. It must be hard enouh to play the game as is; having to stare at the jersey would make it that much harder, I think.

[quote comment=”79171″][quote comment=”79166″]I’ve wondered this before: Those of us who read this site and submit uniform banter, what do we call ourselves? Are we “Uni Watchers”, “Those Who Get It”, “Paul’s People”, “Lukas’s Legion”? Surely there are more creative people on here than me who can think up a name for ourselves.[/quote]

“Uni Watchers” pretty much says it all. Concise and to the point.[/quote]

Yeah I think we should just leave it at Uni Watchers and not try to make ourselves sound like some weird cult…

[quote comment=”79176″]Yeah I think we should just leave it at Uni Watchers and not try to make ourselves sound like some weird cult…[/quote]

Ironically enough, someone made that accusation the other day, during a discussion of stirrups and whatnot, that the people on this website were becoming a Cult of Paul and agreeing with everything he said.

[quote comment=”79166″][quote comment=”79162″][quote comment=”79147″][quote comment=”79048″][quote comment=”79031″]Some players may inscribe the deceased’s link onto their caps.[/quote]

kerry wood died?[/quote]

No, but his career has pretty much bitten the big one…[/quote]

Along with poor Mark Prior’s.

I think Manning should have manned up, wore the cleats and paid the fine. It’s not like he couldn’t afford it.

I like the idea of a Rolodex o’ Uni-Watchers world-wide. todd k., I’m assuming you’ll be in charge of it?[/quote]
I’ve wondered this before: Those of us who read this site and submit uniform banter, what do we call ourselves? Are we “Uni Watchers”, “Those Who Get It”, “Paul’s People”, “Lukas’s Legion”? Surely there are more creative people on here than me who can think up a name for ourselves.[/quote]

True Believers in the Cult of Lukas?

[quote comment=”79179″][quote comment=”79176″]Yeah I think we should just leave it at Uni Watchers and not try to make ourselves sound like some weird cult…[/quote]

Ironically enough, someone made that accusation the other day, during a discussion of stirrups and whatnot, that the people on this website were becoming a Cult of Paul and agreeing with everything he said.[/quote]

That was me. I suggested issuing a fatwa against the radio station that used Paul’s “why players chose their numbers” column without crediting it.

[quote comment=”79182]

True Believers in the Cult of Lukas?[/quote]

Snicker. I like this one, Michael C.

Watchers of the Unis? Catchers in the Rye?

Seriously, I am fine with Uni-Watch Nation. We need a flag and a creed–maybe even a credo. Beer will be the official beverage of choice (except for me. I will apply for an an exemption); Philly cheesesteaks the entree, and beignets for dessert.

[quote comment=”79184″][quote comment=”79179″][quote comment=”79176″]Yeah I think we should just leave it at Uni Watchers and not try to make ourselves sound like some weird cult…[/quote]

Ironically enough, someone made that accusation the other day, during a discussion of stirrups and whatnot, that the people on this website were becoming a Cult of Paul and agreeing with everything he said.[/quote]

That was me. I suggested issuing a fatwa against the radio station that used Paul’s “why players chose their numbers” column without crediting it.[/quote]

Nah, it wasn’t that, Michael C. Someone said we all agree with Paul and don’t have a thought of our own. Someone else agreed with him. I used my unhealthy love for black as proof that I don’t always agree with Paul.

It had to do with the OS uni-change.

[quote comment=”79190″]The big JH size is not unprecedented though. Check out the link.[/quote]

True, Joe. However, that is on the arm so it’s not as immediately eye-catching.

[quote comment=”79159″][quote comment=”79153″]A’s rookie hazing from a year or two ago.

Note Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton dressed as matching plug and socket. Overtones? Nah, not much.

link

link

link

link[/quote]

Is that a Black Label Society tattoo on Swisher (I am assuming that Swisher in the guy in the middle)?[/quote]

The tattoo on Swisher’s chest is, ironically, a tribute to his grandmother Betty Swisher. explained in this link

[quote comment=”79136″][quote comment=”79079″]I wonder why it took the Reds so long to retire Concepcion’s number? He played for them for 19 seasons. Also, I thought they had retired Rose’s #14, but it wasn’t mentioned in that article.

I know the SF Giants don’t retire a number unless the player has been voted in to the HOF, which is strange logic. You are essentially letting the sportswriters decide if you should honor one of your own employees.[/quote]

The Reds are a little weird about retiring numbers. They didn’t retire Frank Robinson’s, Sparky Anderson’s, or Joe Morgan’s until relatively recently, and only after plenty of lesser lights had worn them, I guess because all of them spent large chunks of their careers elsewhere. They sitll haven’t retired Rose’s, presumably because he might not be permitted on the field for the ceremony.[/quote]

That is correct. The Reds have not retired Rose’s number because MLB/Bud Selig will not permit him to participate in anything involving Major League Baseball(except for when MasterCard pays MLB a shitload of money to have the all-century team, then by all means he can participate). MLB is so hypocritical in this respect.

[quote comment=”79190″]The big JH size is not unprecedented though. Check out the link.[/quote]

but thats on the sleeve, and also on everyone on the team, its not some awkward looking thing on one guys uniform.

[quote comment=”79200″]I don’t think you have the right to get mad at Tim Hudson for wearing a large-sized “JH” on his jersey. [/quote]

I think the point a lot of people are missing here is that nobody “got mad” at Tim Hudson.

[quote comment=”79181″][quote comment=”79179″][quote comment=”79176″]Yeah I think we should just leave it at Uni Watchers and not try to make ourselves sound like some weird cult…[/quote]

Ironically enough, someone made that accusation the other day, during a discussion of stirrups and whatnot, that the people on this website were becoming a Cult of Paul and agreeing with everything he said.[/quote]
Read a few of todays comments and see if everyone agrees with what paul says.[/quote]

Never said it was true; just said someone made that accusation.

I own a Mets Ice cream man cap. Bought it that year cause I loved it. Same with the Reds white striped cap. Perfect for a Sunday Matinee. And in both cases, better than the damn black.

Paul had an opinion, his own personal view that the letters on Hudson’s jersey were too big. He didn’t get mad at or say that it was wrong that Hudson was honoring his former teammate; in fact, that first paragraph shows that he understands the practice is widespread in baseball, if not in all pro sports.

Since when did stating an opinion become a taboo practice? If his opinion is unpopular, you know what? It’s his website. He can pretty much say whatever he wants. You don’t like it? Fine, then move on. In case you didn’t know, the name of the website is “Uni Watch: The Obsessive Study of Athletics Aesthetics”. And nothing speaks more to that than a ballplayer putting huge letters on the front of his jersey that don’t normally belong there. That’s what we’re here for; to talk about uniforms. And that’s what the conversation is about: The letters on the front of Tim Hudson’s uniform. I feel sorry for the Hancock familiy, and for all the players that knew him and were affected by his sudden and tragic death. But in the grand scheme of things, you know what? We’re talking about letters on a jersey, hardly a topic that is insulting to the memory of Josh Hancock.

Personally, if a Mets player died tragically and they wore a patch in his honor, I would hope that they don’t wear something like what Hudson wore; in my opinion, that would look horrible. Your opinion might be different. What I don’t undertand is people coming on here with this indignation, an attitude that ” I don’t like what you said, so don’t say it again”. That kind of attitude might work for a 4-year old, but I would like to think that we’re all adults that can discuss something in a civilized, albeit passionate, manner. Disagreeing with someone’s opinion is one thing; castigating the guy because he offended your moral compass on a rather silly issue is pretty sad. Calling something stupid because you don’t agree with it? Saying that someone “doesn’t have a right” to comment on something because you don’t like what he has to say? I’m sorry, but sometimes I wonder what planet some of you people live on……

[quote comment=”79200″]I don’t think you have the right to get mad at Tim Hudson for wearing a large-sized “JH” on his jersey. That was his former teammate, former roommate, and close friend. Don’t question the way other people grieve. Grieving is very personal, and I don’t think it should be questioned or even mentioned unless it’s in a commending manner. “I hate to be a pill, but couldn’t he have worn a simple sleeve patch like the Cardinals did?” I hate to be a pill, but maybe Tim Hudson should decide on how he chooses to honor his friend. That such a thing would be questioned, in such a stupid manner, turns me off to this site completely.[/quote]

The point is that when you choose to take a personal act and make it public (like a large display on a uniform in a televised game), people do have the right to comment on it. And then other people have a right to comment on the comments. All in a civil, non-attacking way (which most everyone has done – kudos).

That being said, I would love to be a member of the Uni-Watchers. I prefer this term to Uni Watch Nation (sounds a little to Red Sox-y for this Yankee apologist), but I will go with whatever you all decide.

Maybe Tim wore a big JH so people wouldn’t just forget about his old teammate. A little JH on the side of an Atlanta Braves jersey sleeve isn’t going to be recongized by that many people.

[quote comment=”79233″]Maybe Tim wore a big JH so people wouldn’t just forget about his old teammate. A little JH on the side of an Atlanta Braves jersey sleeve isn’t going to be recongized by that many people.[/quote]

With all due respect, MLB cancelled a baseball game and it was the non-stop topic of the day. The Cardinals hung his jersey up in their dugout and bullpen. They’re going to be wearing a patch on their sleeves for (presumably) the rest of the season. And I’m sure that anyone who saw a small “JH” on his sleeve would ask “what’s that stand for?”, opening a whole new discussion on how Hudson and Hancock were teammates.

I doubt people will forget about his old teammate after one day.

Nothing to do with uniforms, but looking at Natron’s photo got me wondering about that bullpen catcher #75 Dammann in the background of his picture, which led me to a nice little article on his duties:

link

I love reading stories about those background guys whom you otherwise don’t get to hear about. (Plus, they have really unconventional uni numbers!) What an experience that must be — I’d do a job like that just for the meal money!

This is definitely nit-picky, but shouldn’t Hudson have gone all the way and used JMH (for Joshua Morgan Hancock)?

Usually you see all three initials and not just two on those type of tribute patches or whatever you want to call them.

[quote comment=”79189″][quote comment=”79182]

True Believers in the Cult of Lukas?[/quote]

Snicker. I like this one, Michael C.

Watchers of the Unis? Catchers in the Rye?

Seriously, I am fine with Uni-Watch Nation. We need a flag and a creed–maybe even a credo. Beer will be the official beverage of choice (except for me. I will apply for an an exemption); Philly cheesesteaks the entree, and beignets for dessert.[/quote]

The food of choice at the Dallas Uni Watch Party was bratwurst. And while beer is always the official beverage, my dessert of choice is usually more beer.

[quote comment=”79257″][quote comment=”79248″][quote comment=”79189″][quote comment=”79182]

True Believers in the Cult of Lukas?[/quote]

Snicker. I like this one, Michael C.

Watchers of the Unis? Catchers in the Rye?

Seriously, I am fine with Uni-Watch Nation. We need a flag and a creed–maybe even a credo. Beer will be the official beverage of choice (except for me. I will apply for an an exemption); Philly cheesesteaks the entree, and beignets for dessert.[/quote]

The food of choice at the Dallas Uni Watch Party was bratwurst. And while beer is always the official beverage, my dessert of choice is usually more beer.[/quote]

Any pics from the get togethers[/quote]

There already is a link!

Paul, I agree with you 100% on Hudson’s display. Yeah, it’s a horrible thing that happened, but there’s nothing wrong with saying the memorial is over the top.

Reminds me of those garrish (and ironically distracting) memorials people put up on the road after someone dies in an accedent.

[quote comment=”79195″][quote comment=”79159″][quote comment=”79153″]A’s rookie hazing from a year or two ago.

Note Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton dressed as matching plug and socket. Overtones? Nah, not much.

link

link

link

link[/quote]

Is that a Black Label Society tattoo on Swisher (I am assuming that Swisher in the guy in the middle)?[/quote]

The tattoo on Swisher’s chest is, ironically, a tribute to his grandmother Betty Swisher. explained in this link[/quote]

That is a great article about Swisher, I never heard about that before. It proves that you cant judge a book by its cover. Swisher just moved close to the top of my list of favorite ballplayers.

Maybe Juan Pieer ought to be the Uni Watch poster child, maybe even interviewed to find out why he choses to do things right. If PL doesn’t want to do it, I’ll do it if he can get me the contact.

[quote comment=”79271″]Todd, I also don’t mind the low pants in baseball. I hated, HATED! wearing stirrups in Little League. The were so uncomfortable, the stirrup part would always get twisted. I wanted to wear long pants like they did in the majors. (I played little league in the late 80’s/early 90’s). But the unis we got were pullovers (which sucked) and elastic waisted pants with no belt loops that only went down to the mid shin area. So we had to wear stirrups to cover the empty space. Also, I didn’t have any long white socks, so my crew socks which were just long enough to cover the opening in the stirrup would always bunch up at my ankles leaving skin exposed between the white sock and the stirrup. This ended up looking like crap. The way juan pierre does it is the best look I think in baseball. I hate high stirrups, they look retarted and serve no purpose (I blame this trend for the loss of all the great sock stripes, not the low pants). I also don’t particulary like the soccer sock look with the high pants, if you’re not gonna do it right like Juan Pierre, go with the long pants.[/quote]

Back in Little League, I never liked wearing stirrups. Oh, sure, they look good, but they just felt odd to wear on top of a sock.

In sum, I like how they look, but never liked how they felt on my foot.

[quote comment=”79227″]Enough already, argue-monkeys!

Anyone know why link and his assistant coaches were wearing this lapel pin last night?
[/quote]

The lapel pin appears to be the WAG logo. I can’t make it out completely, but that looks like the similar image.

[quote comment=”79227″]Enough already, argue-monkeys!

Anyone know why link and his assistant coaches were wearing this lapel pin last night?

For the umpteenth week in a row, John Buccigross has written that the NHL will return to home whites next season, which I thought had been debunked here months ago. Do we have anything definitive? Maybe I missed something.[/quote]

Could it be the memorial patch the Sharks have on their sleeves for their goalie coach in pin form?

[quote comment=”79272″]Maybe Juan Pieer ought to be the Uni Watch poster child, maybe even interviewed to find out why he choses to do things right. If PL doesn’t want to do it, I’ll do it if he can get me the contact.[/quote]

When you interview him, find out why he can’t throw out a runner at third to save his life. 45 million we’re paying this guy!!! But I do like his uni sense.

[quote comment=”79257″]

Any pics from the get togethers[/quote]

link with notes and pictures from his visits to Dallas and San Fran.

[quote comment=”79257″]

Any pics from the get togethers[/quote]

link with notes and pictures from his visits to Dallas and San Fran.[/quote]

Thanks Ian K. I am an Idiot, I forgot that was that long ago where we got the great run down from The maker of Arena football unis. That was during tax season so those months are running together and lost in the back of my mind.

[quote comment=”79195″][quote comment=”79159″][quote comment=”79153″]A’s rookie hazing from a year or two ago.

Note Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton dressed as matching plug and socket. Overtones? Nah, not much.

link

link

link

link[/quote]

Is that a Black Label Society tattoo on Swisher (I am assuming that Swisher in the guy in the middle)?[/quote]

The tattoo on Swisher’s chest is, ironically, a tribute to his grandmother Betty Swisher. explained in this link[/quote]

Sure enough. Check out this Black Label Society t-shirt, though. Similar to the tat, eh?

link;

What the hell..i know hes probably never going to read this, but leave Hudson alone. I’m sure if people were bitching about something you do when someone close to you die you’d be pissed.

and another thing, who the hell cares about vertical or radial arching

[quote comment=”79276″][quote comment=”79271″]Todd, I also don’t mind the low pants in baseball. I hated, HATED! wearing stirrups in Little League. The were so uncomfortable, the stirrup part would always get twisted. I wanted to wear long pants like they did in the majors. (I played little league in the late 80’s/early 90’s). But the unis we got were pullovers (which sucked) and elastic waisted pants with no belt loops that only went down to the mid shin area. So we had to wear stirrups to cover the empty space. Also, I didn’t have any long white socks, so my crew socks which were just long enough to cover the opening in the stirrup would always bunch up at my ankles leaving skin exposed between the white sock and the stirrup. This ended up looking like crap. The way juan pierre does it is the best look I think in baseball. I hate high stirrups, they look retarted and serve no purpose (I blame this trend for the loss of all the great sock stripes, not the low pants). I also don’t particulary like the soccer sock look with the high pants, if you’re not gonna do it right like Juan Pierre, go with the long pants.[/quote]

Back in Little League, I never liked wearing stirrups. Oh, sure, they look good, but they just felt odd to wear on top of a sock.

In sum, I like how they look, but never liked how they felt on my foot.[/quote]

when i played little league, this was the look. i went through so much athletic tape to try to manipulate standard issue stirrups so they would look like them.
link

i guess at that point in my life i never thought to look for a different pair at a friggin SPORTING GOODS STORE!

Well, I liked Hudson’s sponteaneous display.

We’ve become a nation of commodified grievers. As soon as someone famous dies — particularly in the sports world — the machine creates league-sanctioned official designs.

Aesthetically, Hudson’s “JH” letters were sure huge. Debate that all you want.

However, I’m totally into Hudson’s spontaneous tribute. He obviously went to the equipment manager, and possibly management, and they all pitched in to some degree.

In this age of leagues policing every single stitch of uniform comportment, this is a good thing.

[quote comment=”79309″]and another thing, who the hell cares about vertical or radial arching[/quote]

These things DO matter. They are a part of how we perceive our world. Are the details on a uniform noticed? Are those details seen elsewhere in life? In the grand scheme of things, sure, it’s not politics or law, but it is a part of the perceptions we have of our world.

[quote comment=”79324″][quote comment=”79280″][quote comment=”79227″]Enough already, argue-monkeys!

Anyone know why link and his assistant coaches were wearing this lapel pin last night?
[/quote]

The lapel pin appears to be the WAG logo. I can’t make it out completely, but that looks like the similar image.[/quote]

The lapel pin is a “WAS” for Warren A. Strelow, whohad been goaltender coach for the Sharks for 10 seasons and also was goaltender coach for the 1980 “Miracle on Ince” squad. (Sorry, I don’t have a picture.) links[/quote]

Yeah, sorry. I apologize to the Sharks, and to the Strelow family. We were having a conversation about the tail wagging the dog here at work, and I guess it crossed over as I was typing.

Good catch, Jon. My apologies to all.

here’s the link to the new WNBA unis:
link

And before any smartaleck remarks, please remember there ARE some people who actually appreciate womens sports.

[quote comment=”79328″]pics for the WNBA unis:
link

Some of them look pretty darn awful, others a bit better. Since when are the names on jersey BELOW the number?[/quote]

I certainly don’t like that ever uniform has the same darnd pattern, but it works for some of the teams. Seeing this has me worried about what RBK is doing to NHL jerseys. If they tinker with the Original 6 jerseys my head just might explode.

[quote comment=”79329″]here’s the link to the new WNBA unis:
link

And before any smartaleck remarks, please remember there ARE some people who actually appreciate womens sports.[/quote]

agreed… and appreciate sue bird, swin cash, becky hammon…

also, in seeing the sparks home uni, it looks like they made a color change going from yellow to more of a white gold color.

[quote comment=”79335″][quote comment=”79329″]here’s the link to the new WNBA unis:
link

And before any smartaleck remarks, please remember there ARE some people who actually appreciate womens sports.[/quote]

yawn……….[/quote]

I dunno, Zack, I quite prefer Women’s basketball to mens Golf. Though personally, I’d rather see mixed gender major leagues than seperate mens and women’s leagues.

Teebz
This question is ‘Out of the Blue’

[quote comment=”79329″]here’s the link to the new WNBA unis:
link

And before any smartaleck remarks, please remember there ARE some people who actually appreciate womens sports.[/quote]
Why would a league short on fans make the teams look the same (except for the colors). These are just lame, the triangle at the base of the neck is a pointless design element I’ve never agreed with and what’s with the different fabric on the butt for the team name?

[quote comment=”79063″]Dave Concepcion’s No. 13 was already de facto retired because the Reds’ excellent equipment managers (Bernie Stowe and sons) refused to assign it to any players since Concepcion retired. I wonder how often this happens, and how many equipment managers wield that kind of power.[/quote]

Late response and I didn’t read through the rest of the comments but I have an example: the Maple Leafs haven’t had a number 17 since Wendel Clark was traded to Quebec (now Colorado) for Mats Sundin. I’m not sure it was just the equipment managers deciding that, though. I recall the president of the team saying something like, “Number 17 won’t be used for a while.” after the trade.

[quote comment=”79355″]As an Oklahoma Cityan, count me as embarrassed by the name and spelling of our AF2 team. Shoot — I’m embarrassed by the very fact that we even have an AF2 team! We supported our major league AFL team, but they (and their really sharp unis) bolted with their out-of-town owner…

But why the current ownership played right into the stereotype of uneducated Okies by intentionally misspelling “Dogs” is way beyond me. They should have just called the team the Red Necks. Sheesh.[/quote]

ive never understood why people would go out of their way to incorrectly spell anything let alone the name of a professional sports franchise.
whether it be typing on a message board (wuz for was, etc), or a team (former wnba team utah starzz) there is no excuse for going out of your way to spell an accepted word differently.

Utah’s WNBA team was the Starzz because the NBA team is the Jazz.

Plus, what did you expect OKC to do? Their first two choices for dog-variant names are copyrighted (UGA has “Dawg” and Snoop has “Dogg”).

Regarding the “unofficially” retired numbers . . . the Steelers and Cowboys don’t retire numbers, but I can’t recall anyone having worn the “superstar” numbers since the players who made them famous retired (nobody has worn 12 on either team since those two QBs quit, for instance). The Raiders, on the other hand, seem to hand out old numbers all the time–with the exception of Jim Otto, as the NFL has said you can’t wear 0 or 00 (as LeCharles bentley will attest). Don’t know what the policy is in other sports, with rare exceptions (The Boss loved Paul O’Neill, so nobody’s going to wear his number ever again, even if it is “available” right now).

[quote comment=”79240″]From today’s TMQ:

link with the caption: “Spider-man follows the all-black alternate uniform craze.”

I think Spidey looks better than the link link.[/quote]

Not black. That is gray. I like the football (and rugby) all-blacks better.

Dessert–ice cream bars/drumsticks. More accessible than beignets.

tessa, I didn’t think of the Red Sox connotation when I suggested nation. I retract it as I wouldn’t want you to spontaneously combust.

Joe, I forgot about the pennant. I guess we can adopt that as our flag.

more than a day…

[quote comment=”79244″]This is definitely nit-picky, but shouldn’t Hudson have gone all the way and used JMH (for Joshua Morgan Hancock)?

Usually you see all three initials and not just two on those type of tribute patches or whatever you want to call them.[/quote]

i think that huddy wouldnt have done that since he knew hancock on a personal level so he wouldnt have referred to him with hid middle initial.

Also, I think that im in the definite minority here in that I actually liked how the memorial looked. It stayed with the uniform(using the same colors as the names on the back) and actually made you stop and think. If he had worn that black circle patch, it wouldnt have been noticed for two reasons- A) The braves are already wearing a black circle patch (33 i believe) to remember TWO former players who wore the same number. and B) if he had simply moved the JH oatch to the right side, thats his pitching arm, which is moving most of the game, making it hard to see.
well anyways, props to TH for the nice reminder

[quote comment=”79068″]Let’s put it this way: If I die tomorrow, I sincerely hope nobody will wear a giant “PL” like that.[/quote]

So I’m guessing you wouldn’t like it if the Mets wore their all blacks as a sign of mourning?

[quote comment=”79348″]Teebz
This question is ‘Out of the Blue'[/quote]

Is this a beer question? :o)

ive never understood why people would go out of their way to incorrectly spell anything let alone the name of a professional sports franchise.
whether it be typing on a message board (wuz for was, etc), or a team (former wnba team utah starzz) there is no excuse for going out of your way to spell an accepted word differently.

I’m with you Todd. Let’s get link link to start spelling things correctly as well.

I’m not a WNBA fan, but some of those jerseys are hideous and some not so much. The SA, HOU, and LA jerseys look terrible tho..what the hell is that on the sides?!

So you people say that the rest of us just spend our time agreeing with Paul. I think you’re nuts.

What do you think, Paul? I mean, if you think it’s gotten out of hand, we could always try to disagree with you sometimes. Whatever you think is best.

Keyshawn Johnson may well be done as a receiver. Was he the first receiver to wear digits in the 10-19 range since the numbering system was instituted?

[quote comment=”79425″][quote comment=”79423″]Keyshawn Johnson may well be done as a receiver. Was he the first receiver to wear digits in the 10-19 range since the numbering system was instituted?[/quote]
No, link, #19 for the San Diego Chargers[/quote]
Actually, on second thought, when was the number system firmly in place?
To expand on your point, Keyshawn kept #19 through a loophole in the system. He was given #19 in his first training camp with the Jets because there were too many wide receivers, and not enough 80-something numbers. He made the team, thus felt strongly about #19 and did not want to give it up for a more “traditional” receiver’s number. Oddly enough, the NFL obliged, and he had the only “unorthodox” receiver’s jersey number for some time.
Later, as teams complained about a lack of numbers for receivers due to tight ends and retired numbers, the NFL decided to make 10-19 kosher for wide-outs, meaning Johnson was no longer an exception.

[quote comment=”79418″]huh, I wonder if the Mets pitchers do have any input on the days uniforms. Because they are wearing snow whites and blue caps. Mike Pelfry is pitching and the Mets last wore this combo during Pelfrys last start. Whats also interesting is that this is the first night gane the Mets have worn the blue caps this season. They other 2 games were day games.[/quote]
Well Mr. 0-2 mnight want to consider the pinstripes then. This reminds me and I think Paul has answered this before. If the Mets go on a win streak and they keep wearing the black jerseys and caps would you be happy? I think the answer is no, but how about the rest of the Mets fans? I know the rest of you hate it when this turns into a Mets blog but … Gotta run, but I look forward to reading the answers tomorrow. For the record, if it’s black unis and World champs ok. Anything less then no go. The best solution is just “Ditch the Black!!”

[quote comment=”79432″][quote comment=”79418″]huh, I wonder if the Mets pitchers do have any input on the days uniforms. Because they are wearing snow whites and blue caps. Mike Pelfry is pitching and the Mets last wore this combo during Pelfrys last start. Whats also interesting is that this is the first night gane the Mets have worn the blue caps this season. They other 2 games were day games.[/quote]
Well Mr. 0-2 mnight want to consider the pinstripes then. This reminds me and I think Paul has answered this before. If the Mets go on a win streak and they keep wearing the black jerseys and caps would you be happy? I think the answer is no, but how about the rest of the Mets fans? I know the rest of you hate it when this turns into a Mets blog but … Gotta run, but I look forward to reading the answers tomorrow. For the record, if it’s black unis and World champs ok. Anything less then no go. The best solution is just “Ditch the Black!!”[/quote]

During the regular season I don’t think it should matter that much, I want them to wear as much blue as possible. In the playoffs you gotta stick with a good thing, so if they keep winning in a particular uni you gotta go with it. But I would certainly want that uni to be the pins with the blue caps. Can you imagine if they won game 7 of the NLCS? They would have worn that uni in the World Series and then if they won the series we would have finally seen more of a return to the proper uni. To bad beltran can’t kit a looping curveball…he struck out on that same pitch in the first inning today.

Watching the Angels-Royals game again…
Zach Greinke is wearing an infielders’ glove. Pretty rare for a pitcher to use a glove that doesn’t have a closed web. It’d be really easy to see through and know what kind of grip he has on the ball.

[quote comment=”79108″]Oops, I forgot to mention that prior to this season, Nebraska wore some nifty striped socks as well. I was sad to see them go.[/quote]

No, they still wear stripped socks this year; if I have some time later I’ll post a few pictures from some of their home games this season. Everyone wears their pants at the knees, and its a nice classic look.

I’m watching the Marlins/Mets game and I’ve noticed a few things:

Willie Randolf’s hat has orange holes in the front instead of all blue holes

I also saw a guy with what looked like a Mets jersey but there was a huge Pepsi logo instead of a number

Also, have the Cool-Flo helmets become the norm in the majors. I have yet to see a player not wear one.

During tonight’s Reds-Astros game, one of the announcers said that “in that double-flap helmet, [Arroyo] looks like a misplaced little leaguer.” Hmmph.

Hey Mr. Lukas: why do you insist on a green car? You should have gotten a black one. ;-)

[quote comment=”79457″]I’m watching the Marlins/Mets game and I’ve noticed a few things:

Willie Randolf’s hat has orange holes in the front instead of all blue holes

I also saw a guy with what looked like a Mets jersey but there was a huge Pepsi logo instead of a number

Also, have the Cool-Flo helmets become the norm in the majors. I have yet to see a player not wear one.[/quote]

A lot of teams don’t use the Cool-Flo helmets. The Yankees don’t, the Phillies don’t…

The Mets jersey with the Pepsi logo is worn by members of the “Party Patrol” who shoot t-shirts into the crowd between innings.

I don’t ever want to see Aaron Heilman pitch in a close game again. EVER.

Philip Hughes is wearing last year’s cap (grey bill). Unusual for a rookie. It’s working, though. Yankees are winning. By the way, can anyone confirm that Hughes requested 65 because it was the smallest vacant number ending in 5? I mean, it’s true that all the smaller -5’s are taken, but is that why he picked that number?

[quote comment=”79480″]Philip Hughes is wearing last year’s cap (grey bill). Unusual for a rookie. It’s working, though. Yankees are winning. By the way, can anyone confirm that Hughes requested 65 because it was the smallest vacant number ending in 5? I mean, it’s true that all the smaller -5’s are taken, but is that why he picked that number?[/quote]

Yes, it’s true. They mentioned it last week during his first start. All of the other numbers are either retired, or currently used (25, 35, 45, and 55 are currently used). It’s a shame he got hurt and couldn’t try for the no-no!

[quote comment=”79329″]here’s the link to the new WNBA unis:
link

And before any smartaleck remarks, please remember there ARE some people who actually appreciate womens sports.[/quote]

Appreciate womens sports or not, those new unis suck.
There are about 10 things that fail the ‘good or stupid’ test.
Paul could devote a week of columns with what is wrong with those, and still not capture just how bad they suck.

[quote comment=”79431″]“Other than the obvious, is it possible to suck and blow at the same time?” ;-)[/quote]

I was once a member before I was banned for life.

I have to say, I, too, am curious as to Paul’s responsibility to his readers. As far as I know, it’s his blog started with the sole purpose of uni-watching. Yes, on some days it doesn’t stay there, and I take my share of blame/credit for that. I look to Paul to show me details on unis I might have missed (especially since I don’t have cable) and to give me his take on it. I count on him to know when the changes are happening and to post his take on that as well. I really expect him to visit the Twin Cities when he is in the Midwest.

When he posts his views, I agree or disagree. I post about that. I do not expect Paul to censor his opinions or only post about subjects that interest me. At the end of the day, it’s his blog. You don’t like it, you can disagree respectfully or you can not read it. Paul is not responsible for his readers’ emotions or reactions to what he writes. Personally, I think Paul is pretty damn even-handed in his writing and could be a hell of a lot more incendiary if he so chose.

That’s my forty-two cents’ worth.

[quote comment=”79521″][quote comment=”79378″]
tessa, I didn’t think of the Red Sox connotation when I suggested nation. I retract it as I wouldn’t want you to spontaneously combust.
[/quote]

I appreciate your concern, Minna. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next injury to the Yankee pitching staff is spontaneous combustion. After tonight’s newest injury, there is very little that would surprise me. I am beginning to retreat into the cocoon of cynicism for protection.

How awful is it when I see high-socked Yankees now, I think of the walking wounded of link?[/quote]

Nice, tessa, tying in your Yanks with a war scene. How apropos. Who’s the newest casualty?

I hope you have the rosary working 24/7.

tessa, I just read. My sympathies (I know about a link going down. And it was worse than they thought).

At least he link. I know, small consolation.

Man, one can’t navigate away from the page for a minute without being rendered redundant by the quick responses of this well-educated blog community (I jest, I jest…). :P

[quote comment=”79537″]Man, one can’t navigate away from the page for a minute without being rendered redundant by the quick responses of this well-educated blog community (I jest, I jest…). :P[/quote]

I know! I had to chastise Teebz earlier for this very thing. At least at this time, it’s just you, me, and Joey Guns. Maybe Frankie is still here.

Of course, I could have held off on asking before I looked it up, but where is the fun in that?

[quote comment=”79542″]And Zach! C’mon, Zach, don’t be so nitpicky. What do you think this is? An obsession for details board?[/quote]

Sorry pal. I get the same way when people refer to hockey as having 3 quarters instead of periods.

[quote comment=”79544″][quote comment=”79542″]And Zach! C’mon, Zach, don’t be so nitpicky. What do you think this is? An obsession for details board?[/quote]

Sorry pal.

I get the same way when people refer to hockey as having 3 quarters instead of periods.[/quote]

You know I’m just messing with you, right?

There are actually people who say hockey has three quarters? That doesn’t even make logical sense.

tessa, it does seem like Hughes should get credit for the next two pitches since he would be on the hook for any runner on base. 6 1/2 innings sounds about right to me.

This is all beginning to sound a little too much like math.