Saturday Open Thread

HOLY CRAP! Those are fugly!

On another note, I’m a Cubs fan but Reyes of the Cardinals did it right last night:

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Why did the linemen bother putting on knee braces. Did they expect some Adidas sales rep to chop block them?

I do like the pants… as long as they don’t go monochromatic black on us…

[quote comment=”77372″]One other observation of those unis for OSU….if it was just an unveiling of new unis why are the linemen wearing their knee braces….just odd I thought.[/quote]

Or eye black?

Oh…my…G-d…

They make Oregon’s unis look normal

Wow, just when you thought Nike could not do any worse…

i think Joakim Noah put it best the day before the national championship game.

“Ooooh myyyy Goooooodddddddddd!!!!”

First off, why do you have two guys wearing the same combo. Second, was it really necessary to have another guy just to wear the black pants with the white jersey?

[quote comment=”77369″]On another note, I’m a Cubs fan but Reyes of the Cardinals did it right last night:

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reyes always does it right. the only thing he does wrong is the stupid flat bill.

And we have a histroic inaccuracy note for you on those Steelers retro uniforms:

According to Football Uniforms Past and Present, which can be linked from the menu bar on the right side of your screen, from 1960 through 1963, the Steelers wore numbers on the side of the helmets, not the Steel logo you know and love today.

if the yoke was a solid color instead of having the baseball jersey pitstains on top, they would look a lot better. the orange jersey is no good. the white on white is ok. black on black sucks. never been a fan of white on black.

[quote comment=”77401″]And we have a histroic inaccuracy note for you on those Steelers retro uniforms:

According to Football Uniforms Past and Present, which can be linked from the menu bar on the right side of your screen, from 1960 through 1963, the Steelers wore numbers on the side of the helmets, not the Steel logo you know and love today.[/quote]

The uniforms are replicas from the 1962 season if I’m not mistaken. That is the only season the Steelers wore a gold helmet with the steel logo on the side. The next season they switched to black helmet. The uniforms are accurate. The only thing things that could be pointed out as inaccurate are the link and the fact the link looks more like a child molester lumberjack than a steel worker.

One thing that I do like about the Oregon unis is the stripe down the side of the pants. other than that, they can burn the damn things. Funny how the best uniforms in college football(link , link, link, and link have the least amount of shit on them. Just an observation. lol

Funny how the best uniforms in college football(here , here, here, and here have the least amount of shit on them. Just an observation. lol
Exactly.

The Steelers have been a white shoe team since 1999, but does anyone else think they should switch to black this year? The retro uniforms just look weird with white shoes. It would also give the Steelers a slightly different aesthetic identity under Coach Tomlin, even when paired with the normal home/away jerseys.

[quote comment=”77398″][quote comment=”77369″]On another note, I’m a Cubs fan but Reyes of the Cardinals did it right last night:

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reyes always does it right. the only thing he does wrong is the stupid flat bill.[/quote]

um ..yeah…and the 0-4 record and the constant high in the strike zone 2 seam fast balls kind of suck too, for us Cardinals fans…

messed up the links, Miami has the Oregon picture, Oregon has the Miami one, and heres Oregon

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[quote comment=”77406″][quote comment=”77401″]And we have a histroic inaccuracy note for you on those Steelers retro uniforms:

According to Football Uniforms Past and Present, which can be linked from the menu bar on the right side of your screen, from 1960 through 1963, the Steelers wore numbers on the side of the helmets, not the Steel logo you know and love today.[/quote]

The uniforms are replicas from the 1962 season if I’m not mistaken. That is the only season the Steelers wore a gold helmet with the steel logo on the side. The next season they switched to black helmet. The uniforms are accurate. The only thing things that could be pointed out as inaccurate are the link and the fact the link looks more like a child molester lumberjack than a steel worker.

One thing that I do like about the Oregon unis is the stripe down the side of the pants. other than that, they can burn the damn things. Funny how the best uniforms in college football(link , link, link, and link have the least amount of shit on them. Just an observation. lol[/quote]

I still think the Penn State has the best uniform in all of football.

[quote comment=”77410″]Jamarcus Russel is wearing a “VT” Virginia Tech lapel pin on his suit -ESPN[/quote]

So is the commish. One more and it’s a trend.

To comment on the Mets wearing their blue 5950’s for batting practice…

they may be doing it because it matches the blue batting practice jerseys better than the either black hat…

Jaworski’s in with a VT pin. As are all the ESPN broadcasters.

Don’t worry. I’m sure Berman will make sure we all know he’s wearing one. God, that guy’s a tool. I wish I had the NFL Network.

The number “4” on those OS jerseys looks heinous.

Any comments on the hats the draftees are putting on. It seems that each year there is a new design that (Reebok?) is pushing. Haven’t really gotten a good look at them, but I do notice a lot of mesh in back.

the hats are more than likely the new “on field” cap of the team.

[quote comment=”77437″]It looks like Russell left in the cardboard protector in the front of his hat. Also, the bar code sticker is still on the underbill. Tacky.[/quote]

they probably dont really think about taking the stickers off the hat before they pose for their photo. all they can think about now is $$$

again the group think on this board is overwhelming.

Yes Nike designed them, but the players like them and someone at Oregon State approved them. If they hated them, they could have refused the design or even swutched to another uniform supplier (although I doubt OS would have shunned an Oregon based company)

You can hate orange, you can hate monochrome, and you can hate Nike, but realize that there are other parties that are involved in teh design and approval process.

that all said, I don’t like the uniforms, but I havent liked the OS unis for a few years now.

[quote comment=”77455″]again the group think on this board is overwhelming.

Yes Nike designed them, but the players like them and someone at Oregon State approved them. If they hated them, they could have refused the design or even swutched to another uniform supplier (although I doubt OS would have shunned an Oregon based company)

You can hate orange, you can hate monochrome, and you can hate Nike, but realize that there are other parties that are involved in teh design and approval process.

that all said, I don’t like the uniforms, but I havent liked the OS unis for a few years now.[/quote]

Why is it groupthink to say the unis are hideous when they so clearly are? You, yourself, say you don’t like them. We are not here to say, “Well, the players like them, so they are ok.” It’s not necessarily groupthink if it is really what everyone really thinks. Besides there have been a few people who have stated they likem.

I didn’t have to read a single comment to cringe when I saw the unis. I will differ in that I think both the monochromatic looks are the best (yes, the black), but the negatives (sports bra look, ridiculous font, garish orange) far outweighs any positives.

James Craven, you and I better not be King the same day because if I were Sports Royalty, it would be All Black All The Time. Don’t tell me it wouldn’t work (Burrill) because I would make it work.

Speaking of all black, link looks good rocking the all-black suit. Ok, I can’t see his pants, but I’m assuming.

did anyone happen to catch this?

The NFL rep pinning the ” VT ” pin on the suit of Peterson after he was drafted by Minn for the pictures? why didnt Goodell make it mandatory for all draftees to have this pin on?

now all it looks like is ” ok wear this for pictures so it looks like our players give a damn “

OMG!!!! I’m watching the NFL Draft, and Adrian Peterson was just selected 7th. Shown at his table with his posse, he had a VT lapel pin as well as a shiny gold NIKE lapel pin. On his way to the podium when he received his hat and jersey, ESPN showed a man messing with AP’s suit! When he held up his jersey with the commish, there was no NIKE pin!!!!!!!

Before getting picked at no.7 Adrian Peterson was wearing a Nike pin above his VT one. As he left the green room to go on stage, someone took it off so he was just left with the Tech pin

[quote comment=”77456″]I must say i kinda like the UofOregon jerseys, but OSU’s jerseys just make me wanna throw up[/quote]

I like the new OSU uniforms. They’re a huge improvement from their old ones: link

I also think the Oregon uniforms are cool simply because of how ugly they are.

I agree completely with the guy who said (with tongue in cheek) that many of you who post are becoming a cult of Paul Lukas worshippers. Don’t get me wrong–I think Paul is the shit. I read this blog every day and his column is great, but you guys need to get off your knees and develop some of your own opinions.

Anyone notice Adrian Peterson had the VT logo AS WELL AS a Nike logo?

I wonder if anyone has an Under Armour logo on. I don’t see Brady Quinn with a TV logo. It must be on his jacket. He’s wearing a vest right now.

[quote comment=”77467″][quote comment=”77456″]I must say i kinda like the UofOregon jerseys, but OSU’s jerseys just make me wanna throw up[/quote]

I like the new OSU uniforms. They’re a huge improvement from their old ones: link

I also think the Oregon uniforms are cool simply because of how ugly they are.

I agree completely with the guy who said (with tongue in cheek) that many of you who post are becoming a cult of Paul Lukas worshippers. Don’t get me wrong–I think Paul is the shit. I read this blog every day and his column is great, but you guys need to get off your knees and develop some of your own opinions.[/quote]

Again, I will repeat, just because ninety percent of people think something (i.e., the OS unis are hideous), it doesn’t mean we’re the cult of Paul Lukas. I’m always puzzled by people who think the board slavishly follows whatever Paul says because I see far more dissension than agreement. There are even several staunch Nike supporters.

Myself, for example. I love black. I am apparently one of three people. I don’t mind purple in some instances (default as a Vikings’ fan). I also like bright colors over pastels (including baby blue) for the most part.

In other words, I think people who are calling out the board as followers or whatever are only seeing what they want to see.

[quote comment=”77411″]Funny how the best uniforms in college football(here , here, here, and here have the least amount of shit on them. Just an observation. lol
Exactly.

The Steelers have been a white shoe team since 1999, but does anyone else think they should switch to black this year? The retro uniforms just look weird with white shoes. It would also give the Steelers a slightly different aesthetic identity under Coach Tomlin, even when paired with the normal home/away jerseys.[/quote]

In the 99 season… they wore black shoes and it was the first season that finished with a losing record and out of the playoffs under Cowher. I think that is the main reason they won’t wear black shoes. Also the white shoes have a historic sense to them because i believe they won their first 4 super bowl championships with white shoes. Again not 100% sure, but i think that is why they stick with the white shoes and not be like half the NFL now and switch to the black shoes

Joe Thomas (the guy OL that went #3 and went fishing instead of to the draft) was wearing Under Armour turtleneck, sweatshirt, and hat.

[quote comment=”77471″][quote comment=”77467″][quote comment=”77456″]I must say i kinda like the UofOregon jerseys, but OSU’s jerseys just make me wanna throw up[/quote]

I like the new OSU uniforms. They’re a huge improvement from their old ones: link

I also think the Oregon uniforms are cool simply because of how ugly they are.

I agree completely with the guy who said (with tongue in cheek) that many of you who post are becoming a cult of Paul Lukas worshippers. Don’t get me wrong–I think Paul is the shit. I read this blog every day and his column is great, but you guys need to get off your knees and develop some of your own opinions.[/quote]

Woah Woah Woah!! Calm it down over there.
As you know, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And with the 300 million people in America, there are bound to be people with the same opinions, right. It’s called agreeing, and it’s happening all around the country as we speak! Just because a few people agree with Paul on this subject, doesn’t mean we are a cult and agree on everything. Like Minna, I enjoy monochrome black. I also love the D-backs red alts, and like Oregon’s football jerseys. We agree on some subjects, disagree on others, and maybe soon you can realize that your last comment made absolutely no sense. At all.

[quote comment=”77493″]Zero percent uni-ralted, but I think it’s complete bullsh*t that the NFL commissioner gave Brady Quinn “a private suite without tv cameras”.

Every other player in history has been forced to sit in the green room until his name was called.

Why the preferential treatment for this schmuck?????

Freaking Notre Dame…..[/quote]

I wholeheartedly agree. With any luck, his punishment will involve wearing an ugly uniform next season.

While pictures were being taken of Calvin Johnson, his name came partially off the back of the jersey. It was attached with velcro.

Interesting that Russell was already prepared in Raiders colors – he certainly matched his suit with the raiders hat/jersey. Think the Raiders knew all along?

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[quote comment=”77514″][quote comment=”77503″][quote comment=”77496″][quote comment=”77493″]Zero percent uni-ralted, but I think it’s complete bullsh*t that the NFL commissioner gave Brady Quinn “a private suite without tv cameras”.

I doubt the commissioner said “Hey buddy, sorry you weren’t pick yet, how about you hide from the limelight?”[/quote]

Why is the idea of the Commish saying that to a potential posterboy of a team inconceivable? It would have been the right thing to do for Aaron Rodgers and Leland McElroy before him.

[quote comment=”77504″]Interesting that Russell was already prepared in Raiders colors – he certainly matched his suit with the raiders hat/jersey. Think the Raiders knew all along?

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he also wore a blakc and white suit yesterday on ESPN, not quite silver but close

First the fucking ugly uniforms, now the Eagles have traded their #1 pick to the DALLAS FUCKING COWBOYS!?

Sell, Lurie, SELL!

No. That would be 1963. Maybe the Steel logo was in place for the Playoff Bowl game (remember that game?), but according to FUPP, the black helmets came in 1964. But the Steelers did wear numbers on the sides of the helmets.

Well, those Oregon State uniforms definitely fail the is-it-stupid-or-is-it-good test? I’d be really interested in the explanation for that contrasting panel at the chest and shoulders.

[quote comment=”77559″]All the talk about the Steelers yellow helmet but it also looks as if the facemask is BLACK not GREY!?![/quote]

This is just my opinion, but I don’t see a pressing reason to make them gray. True, most (but not all) facemasks were gray before the 1970s, but it wasn’t because the teams said “We’d really like to have gray facemasks.” It was because it wasn’t possible or practical to give facemasks colors.

It’s kind of like what the Steelers did when they wore 1933 throwbacks– the 1933 team wore leather helmets. Instead of trying to somehow represent that on a plastic helmet, the Steelers just wore their normal helmets with the decals removed.

In this case, there was no way they were going to make the helmet look the same without going to single-bar facemasks, so they just went with a color that didn’t stand out. Gray would have been fine, but black works too.

[quote comment=”77550″]What I’m seeing for the Steelers on FUPP (from the link on the right of this page) is gold with a number in ’61, gold with the steelmark in ’62, and the current black design in ’63.[/quote]

I think that is right, or at least closer to being right. Based on what I have seen, the Steelers added the Steelmark symbol to their yellow helmets in the 1962 season. It might have actually been partway through. (If this blog had been around then, the change would have been decried as “logo creep,” since it was basically an ad for the Steel industry!)

The symbol originally said “Steel,” just like it does on steel products you may see from time to time.

The Steelers ended up having their best season ever, finishing second in their division and going to the “Playoff Bowl” or “Runner-Up Bowl” in Miami to play the other second-place team, the Lions. For that game, they switched to black helmets and got permission to change “Steel” to “Steelers.”

You can see some photos showing the different versions at link.

The only thing that doesn’t fit in is the picture of a yellow helmet at the Hall of Fame. Not only does it say “Steelers” and not “Steel” on it, but the logo is on the left side for some reason! I don’t know what to do with that.

So maybe there’s something we still don’t know about the transition.

The most tired thing of the NFL draft: Jet fans

Actually, grey was the only color mask used in the sixties, (the only exceptions being the dark brown Schutt bolt on masks which were basically left overs from the fifties and the Adams or Wilson ivory white masks which were primarily used by universities and colleges).
Dunguard, who was the first to match the color of the mask to the team colors, didn’t start producing colored masks until the seventies.
As far as using leather helmets or one bar masks I think it is quite obvious that the throw backs are not supposed to be technologically accurate. (In other words only the visual aspects are considered and the facemask is definitely a part of that.)
Finally, you may want to consider that in recent years some of the most succesful throwbacks helmets from the Chargers, Browns, Bills, etc. have all used GREY facemasks.

[quote comment=”77481″]Joe Thomas (the guy OL that went #3 and went fishing instead of to the draft) was wearing Under Armour turtleneck, sweatshirt, and hat.[/quote]

He had just signed a big deal with them

EXCELLENT dialog today from the Astros announcers during the tops of the 6th inning of the Milwaukee/Houston game. It started with them noting that Hunter Pence (making his MLB debut) was quoted to “be excited” about being in the big leagues so he could wear his socks up. A long conversation ensued that sounded like it was written by Paul Lukas himself.

Re #89:

Thanks, Timmy.

Can anyone explain to me what is going on in this picture? Uniform wise that is.

Looks like spring training, where BP jerseys are often worn.

[quote comment=”77571″]These new OSU Jersey’s are disgusting!! The Pants look great……However It’s a wash though being that their previous uniforms were also disgusting!! so basically no change, they still suck! So concerning the Pac 10……Teams with still horrible jersey’s continue to be Oregon, Oregon St, California and Arizona![/quote]

I know this isn’t grammarwatch, but you don’t need an apostrophe when referring to more than one jersey.

schuby, I think you and I might be in a cult of our own (except the Oregon uni thing. I want no part of that). Let’s set the shrine up in the All-Black Wing of Uni-Watch over there.

I was watching the Yankee/BoSox game (because, really, what other game is there?), and the only uni-related piece of news was that Robinson Cano, who was named after Jackie Robinson, wears 24 in honor of his idol.

There might have been more, but I tend to tune out the Buck and McCarver Show.

Hm. Who did the Vikes take at #7 again? I agree with the notion that perhaps JaMarcus Russell wore black because he was hoping to be the first pick.

By the way, I don’t like the picks having to wear the caps of their new teams. As one scribe said, “You pair a baseball cap with a three-thousand dollar Armani suit. Ridiculous.” I think it was Gene W. of ESPN, but I’m not sure.

i meant just before or after practice yesterday….

i think it’s great that oregon and oregon state wear crazy unis. they don’t have the national fanbases or traditions of schools like ND, ohio state, michigan, penn st, or alabama and the SEC schools. because they don’t have a uni identity that everyone identifies them with, why not experiment with crazy stuff to keep your name in the paper. honestly, if they hadn’t come out with new unis, how many of us would be discussing badger football. i’m a pr major by the way

ok, I hope this works. new guy trying to post a link…

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got some pics from my cousin to the north, every single player; Knickers and high socks, lose points for lack of stirrup(that just doesn’t look right but spellcheck is always right.. right?)

Mohawk High School from Sycamore, OH

[quote comment=”77696″]Minna, Vikes took Adrian Peterson…. I hope the NFL never moves the draft… usually falls around my birthday… now that I have found this site I look at it a bit differntly now though~[/quote]

Thanks, Brandon. I mean, I couldn’t find it ANYWHERE on this site today. Yes, I’m being sarcastic. I think it’s great, however, that the Vikes got talked about so much for something other than their unis. Welcome to the site, by the way.

I read on Yahoo (therefore it must be true) that the new Commish ushered Quinn out of the green room so he (Quinn) wouldn’t have to be humiliated. I’m torn. On the one hand, if you’re going to be making that kind of money, you should take the bad with the good. On the other hand, he’s still just a kid.

drew in #104, I’m going to have to agree with Paul on this one. Bad pub is not necessarily better than no pub at all. If they want to be a laughingstock–fine. I would rather look damn sharp in relative anonymity than look like a clown in notoriety.

My God,

Nike is undoubtedly the devil incarnate. This is just the latest example of the type of sartorial abomination they have visited on sports teams around the world. For the love of all that is sacred,please stop them before they get to Penn State football or Indiana Basketball or, gulp, the Red Sox!

[quote comment=”77493″]Zero percent uni-ralted, but I think it’s complete bullsh*t that the NFL commissioner gave Brady Quinn “a private suite without tv cameras”.

Every other player in history has been forced to sit in the green room until his name was called.

Why the preferential treatment for this schmuck?????

Freaking Notre Dame…..[/quote]

Every other player in history waited in the green room under a different commissioner. Roger is just doing things different.

I like ’em. Yeah, I said it.

And it absolutely is important that the players like the uniforms. I can’t prove it, but I bet Oregon recruits much, much better now than they did when they wore the old, boring unis.