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Two weeks back I wrote about Lovie Smith’s inflatable pump jacket. Now, in the interests of equal time, here’s a note I received a few days ago from Colby Taylor, CEO of Innovative Sports, who has some choice words for Lovie’s outerwear:

Just so you know, that Reebok pump jacket is a rip-off of our zip-in heated jacket, which has been selling to NFL coaches and players since 2003. Reebok can’t match our actual heat technology, so they introduced this joke to battle us for players and fans. ”¦ We have a pressure-sensitive fabric switch on the chest to control temperature. Do a Google search for “heated jacket,” or a Google video search for “heated jacket” or “Innovative Sports” — you’ll see the heated jackets we did for SportsCenter, Monday Night Football, and Oregon Coach Mike Bellotti, including jackets I personally did for Carl Ravich, Peter Gammons, John Kruk, and Harold Reynolds for the outdoor postgame shows in Chicago during the 2005 World Series. Pump jacket — please.

Frankly, I think putting the pump jacket (which uses the wearer’s body heat to create a buffer of warm air) up against Innovative’s heated jacket (which is battery-powered) is a bit of an apples/oranges comparison. But I was intrigued by the idea of an electric jacket, so I gave Taylor a call. Here’s what we talked about:

Uni Watch: So how does this jacket liner work?

Colby Taylor: It just zips in seamlessly. So Reebok’s still able to maintain their outerwear brand presence”¦

UW: Or Nike, or whoever, right? Basically, their outerwear logo is still on display, but meanwhile your zip-in liner is doing its thing underneath, out of sight.

CT: Right. Also, one of the provisions of all of those exclusive contracts — whether it’s Nike’s contract with Oregon, or Reebok’s contract with the NFL — is that if they’re not able to supply what the team wants in apparel form, then the team has the right to go get it somewhere else. So in some cases we’ve been able to slide in there as equipment.

UW: You mean you qualify as “equipment,” instead of “apparel,” so the apparel rules don’t necessarily apply to you?

CT: Exactly. So now I’m thinking Reebok’s gonna be going to NFL equipment managers and saying, “We’ve got this pump jacket now, so you can’t wear Innovative’s products anymore.” That’s my main fear. For example, we’ve had teams like Green Bay, which in the past wanted three zip-in jackets for their coaches. But then suddenly this year, they and everyone else went totally quiet about it. And it’s not because it didn’t work. I think it’s Reebok working behind the scenes — that’s been suggested to me. And I don’t know how much warm air Lovie Smith can pump into that jacket, but ours gets 145 degrees. And we’ve got a battery in there the size of a pack of Tic Tacs.

UW: So is it like an electric blanket?

CT: No. It operates on electrical current, but we use stainless steel yarn that’s the conduit — it literally feels like yarn. There’s also a fabric switch mounted on either the forearm or the chest, which the user can use to control the temperature. And the whole thing’s washable.

UW: Wow! Like, machine washable?

CT: Yes. In addition, there are dual USB and FireWire outputs that you can use to charge your phone, iPod, BlackBerry, anything you carry with you.

UW: Double-wow! So I’m curious, what’s your background? How’d you get involved with all this?

CT: I was a scout for the Brewers and Braves for about 10 years. My father is Dean Taylor, former GM of the Brewers and assistant GM of the Braves. I developed that pitching sleeve concept with the Brewers’ and Braves’ trainers and tested it with the players. Once we got that system the way the players liked it, we took those modular components and can make anything with them.

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Pretty interesting stuff. Later on, Taylor sent me even more info, as follows:

The first guy to wear a heated sideline jacket in all of major football was [Oregon head coach] Mike Bellotti. This jacket was used in the 2003 Civil War game, in November of 2003. This was not a zip-in — we actually took his Nike jacket apart and inserted the electronics, then reassembled it and added a dial controller in the pocket to control temperature. The zip-in solution came the following season, and is what you see on our web site.

That same year, 2003, we did jackets in the winter for Joey Harrington in Detroit and Jake Plummer in Denver. Alex Smith was using one at Utah, and we also did them for KC and Dick Vermeil and their kicker — I think it was Morton Andersen. The Rams got two jackets as well, although I don’t know who wore them.

In addition to the ESPN jackets in the 2005 World Series, we also did Monday Night Football jackets in 2005 for Al Michaels, John Madden, Sam Ryan, Michelle Taffoya, and producer Jeff Dufine. Unfortunately, some ridiculous apparel deal MNF had with some Italian suit company prevented them from wearing them on air, even though it did not carry our logo.

There’s more, but you get the idea. Taylor has generously offered to send me a jacket to test-drive (and he’s promised that it won’t be purple). Full report to follow.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Never mind what Mo Williams wass wearing on his left shoulder — what the hell did Gerald Wallace have under his jersey the other night? ”¦ Not uni-related, but there’s a really fascinating logo creep article here. ”¦ As long as we’ve been on an all-star kick, check out what the ABA all-stars were wearing. “I leave it up to you to decide which looks more painful,” writes Chuck Miller. “The satiny uniforms with red-blue spangles and piping, or the two players whose shoes seem to match up with their uniforms — or the large crowd disguised as empty seats in the background.” ”¦ The Canadiens retired Ken Dryden’s number last night (long overdue, no?) and wore jersey patches to mark the occasion. There were some cool uni-related moments, like Russian goalie Vladislav Tretiak showing up in his old CCCP jersey, Dryden’s brother Dave wearing his old Sabres jersey, and Dryden’s grandchild wearing a tiny Habs outfit. My only gripe: Why did Dryden himself get stuck wearing a jersey with the NHL’s Vintage logo, instead of a clean throwback jersey?

 
  
 
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    I never understood why when players have their number retired they don’t just wear an actual game jersey from when they played??? You know they have at least one.

    My only thought is that they don’t fit, but if they do fit I would rather see that.

    link of many why the Innovative Sports jacket is much cooler than the Reebok one.

    It is $700 thought. A little pricey.

    [quote comment=”48917″]link of many why the Innovative Sports jacket is much cooler than the Reebok one.

    It is $700 thought. A little pricey.[/quote]

    That’s the only reason I need to like the jacket

    Did you guys see the Cruizin Cooler on the Innovative Sports site that Lukas linked?!

    Holy Crap! That thing is friggin awesome!

    It looked like what Gerald Wallace was wearing was some type of shoulder padding. It was too well formed not to be plastic. That’s just my 2 cents, take it for what it’s worth.
    ZG

    [quote comment=”48925″]Did you guys see the Cruizin Cooler on the Innovative Sports site that Lukas linked?!

    Holy Crap! That thing is friggin awesome![/quote]

    Friggin awesome indeed. Wicked awesome in fact. One of those is so neccessary for trips to the Port-O-Potty while tailgating.

    The stuff Gerald Wallace is wearing is basically the stuff they put into the padded apparel, otherwise known as “Impact Gear” by UnderArmour. Looks like he just trimmed it down.

    There is a company, whose name slips my mind at the moment, who makes a full line of padded gear (UA does too, but I refuse to pay the $20 upcharge for their logo). I bought myself a padded shirt for hockey practices where I know I’m going to be getting a lot of pucks that sometimes barely squeak past my chest protector.

    They also make pants with extra padding built into the belt and seat, which a friend of mine uses. He uses link.

    Wearing crap under a basketball jersey reminds me of Patrick Ewing when he was at Georgetown. It was his signature look. Why did he do that? Who else wore a shirt under their jersey? Why didn’t he do that in the NBA? Did they make him stop? Why didn’t he ever bring a championship to NY?

    [quote comment=”48935″]Wearing crap under a basketball jersey reminds me of Patrick Ewing when he was at Georgetown. It was his signature look. Why did he do that? Who else wore a shirt under their jersey? Why didn’t he do that in the NBA? Did they make him stop? Why didn’t he ever bring a championship to NY?[/quote]
    The story I remember was that G’Town played many of it’s home games in an arena with a court over a rink setup so it was always cold and he did it to keep warm. When he first started Nike took the opportunity to outfit him in a shirt with a sneaker pic on the sleeve, the NCAA put the kibosh on that rather quickly. I’ll look for a pic. Soon it was a G’Town look. I know the NBA wouldn’t let him do it and the NCAA made it a rule that the t-shirts had to match the uni and High Schools had similar rules.

    SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career. My favorite is #10, where you can see the number 21 on the skates and gloves of the opposing Buffalo Sabres player.

    link

    The one throwback jersey I wish was available is the white #29 you see in these pictures.

    You are [quote comment=”48938″][quote comment=”48935″]Wearing crap under a basketball jersey reminds me of Patrick Ewing when he was at Georgetown. It was his signature look. Why did he do that? Who else wore a shirt under their jersey? Why didn’t he do that in the NBA? Did they make him stop? Why didn’t he ever bring a championship to NY?[/quote]
    The story I remember was that G’Town played many of it’s home games in an arena with a court over a rink setup so it was always cold and he did it to keep warm. When he first started Nike took the opportunity to outfit him in a shirt with a sneaker pic on the sleeve, the NCAA put the kibosh on that rather quickly. I’ll look for a pic. Soon it was a G’Town look. I know the NBA wouldn’t let him do it and the NCAA made it a rule that the t-shirts had to match the uni and High Schools had similar rules.[/quote]
    You are spot on Metsfan, with a slight addendum. Ewing started wearing the t-shirt while battling the flu.

    [quote comment=”48935″]Wearing crap under a basketball jersey reminds me of Patrick Ewing when he was at Georgetown. It was his signature look. Why did he do that? Who else wore a shirt under their jersey? Why didn’t he do that in the NBA? Did they make him stop? Why didn’t he ever bring a championship to NY?[/quote]

    A lot of college players wear shirts under their jersey. I think it’s a comfort thing that they are just used to from growing up playing in t-shirts. I know that’s why I do it, I’m just not comfortable in just a tank top without anything covering my arms at all. My link link under the link link in college now.

    [quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career.[/quote]

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?

    Not necessarily uni-related…
    I was at the Pitt @ Villanova game last night, and this has to top the list of stupid in-game promotions. During the final TV timeout in the 2nd half (in a tight Big East game), the braintrust decides their lame contest is going to be “throwing cabbage into a metal grocery cart” right between mid court and the 3 point line. Needless to say, they start throwing the cabbages and of course they begin to explode everywhere, causing all the debris to absolutely cover the court. The PITT coaches start flipping out, Mike Tranghese (BE commish) is pissed, and the game gets delayed 10 mins as all the little kids with mops, assistant coaches, refs, and several other dudes in suits all get on their knees trying to pick up all the scraps.

    [quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career. My favorite is #10, where you can see the number 21 on the skates and gloves of the opposing Buffalo Sabres player.

    link

    The one throwback jersey I wish was available is the white #29 you see in these pictures.[/quote]

    That’s a link that dude link. I don’t know much about hockey but I know that it would hurt if you got hit in the head with a puck coming at you and that link he’s got on leaves plenty of link for a puck to the head.

    most of those great ken dryden photos were taken by denis brodeur… father of the devil’s marty brodeur…. his dad was the team photographer for many years…

    I’m sure this is common knowledge for many of the uniwatch faithful!!

    YEars back Nate Gerwig from Kent State University had problems with his shoulder dislocating, sound serious but he usually just had popped back in then wore a brace taht held it there. i am guessing that is what Mo Williams had on. It honestly looks like he is wearing a cilice.

    Here’s a picture of his contraption. It’s on his right arm then it runs up underneath is like a flap jacket…

    Colby Taylor: It just zips in seamlessly. So Reebok’s still able to maintain their outerwear brand presence…

    Isn’t a zipper actually a seam — in fact the most conspicuous kind? Yes he’s speaking in metaphor, but perhaps one avoid clothing metaphors when actually talking about clothing.

    [quote comment=”48943″][quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career.[/quote]

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?[/quote]

    Yo paul the little recessed dots were the waffle part of the blockers. it was made with little holes in the leather to reduce the weight because those things sucked up water and got really heavy as a game got into the 3rd period. They dont make them today because the blockers are so damn light these days and they are pretty much waterproof. And the little holes make it hard for the companies to put their logos on the front.

    Gerald Wallace is wearing the McDavid Hex pad. Very similar to the padded undershirts that every other company is making and if I recall corectly (I’m to lazy to go check) the picture of Iverson’s jersey hanging in his locker before his first game in Denver had a different version of the McDavid Hex pad hanging in his locker as well.

    [quote comment=”48943″][quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career.[/quote]

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?[/quote]

    Back in the day, the leather used to cover the blocker was pretty heavy… so the “dots” were actually cut out of the leather, exposing the padding underneath. The catching gloves of that time were basically first-basemen’s mitts with a lightly-padded “collar” that covered the wrist.

    The leather used on today’s goalie equipment is much thinner and lighter, so the holes are no longer needed.

    Speaking of crappy retirement jerseys, weren’t the Rangers jerseys at Mike Richter’s ceremony mostly current Koho replicas? I remember looking down the line of other Rangers greats there and being amazed at how lame the jerseys they gave them wore.

    I managed to watch the Ken Dryden ceremony via Center Ice. One note about the grandchild’s sweater (and it is a knit sweater) in his remarks Dryden mentioned that both of his children wore that sweater to their first Habs Christmas parties. So one person did in fact wear an actual garment from his career.

    And I had to call my Dad to remark that the Habs certainly took their time in honoring this legend. I guess they’re now sure he’s not going to pull a Guy Lafleur on them.

    Sorry if this has been posted before but I didn’t have time to go through all the posts from yesterday.

    From HFBoards.com:

    “Mike Heika” of the Dallas Morning news says this..

    Quote:
    “From what I’ve heard, they are very simple and basic. The white one has black striping with green in the letters and the old logo. The black ones have “DALLAS” in a semicircle across the front. Both have numbers on the front (I don’t like that much) – the whites with the number on the shoulder and the black with the number underneath the “DALLAS.” The striping is traditional around the arms and on the bottom of the sweater.”

    link, not the official thing that I found on the SportsLogos.net message board

    stumbled upon these cartoonish staring linup type things, and when rotated each figure around, dare i say… logo creep?

    link

    Not Uni related but big news for those who follow the US Men’s National Team. US Defender Oguchi Onyewu has agreed to a link with Newcastle United for the rest of the season. I bet Gooch will look fantastic in those black and white stripes of Newcastle.

    [quote comment=”48943″][quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career.[/quote]

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?[/quote]

    Simple weight reduction and less place to absorb water. But the modern equiptment is so much lighter its not needed.

    [quote comment=”48976″]stumbled upon these cartoonish staring linup type things, and when rotated each figure around, dare i say… logo creep?

    link
    I would say that they’re accurate figurines. I like that they left the shoes generic.

    [quote comment=”48943″][quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career.[/quote]

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?[/quote]

    The old blockers were made of leather, good for stopping pucks and keeping the pads inside. Like a baseball glove, the leather would hold onto the water if it got wet. Playing on ice, it normally would trap both sweat and water inside of it. The holes acted as aeration for the topside of the blocker as the plastic piece underneath the leather would allow a pool of water/sweat to form on the plastic.

    Now, having said this, I’m not sure how many goalies end up having their blockers face down on the ice, but my guess is close to zero. However, since leather tends to get wet and stay wet, that is what I was told by the goalie on my hockey team.

    [quote comment=”48978″][quote comment=”48943″][quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career.[/quote]

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?[/quote]

    Oh yeah it also made it slightly more flexible along teh length for comfort, in the pics ou can see the slight curve its got from use.

    Simple weight reduction and less place to absorb water. But the modern equiptment is so much lighter its not needed.[/quote]

    Noticed during the Dryden number retirement ceremony last night that Dryden’s jersey seemed to be of a different red than the current Canadiens jersey. Did anyone else notice this? Was this intentional? Was the Canadiens jersey of the 1970s like this, or was this just an anomoly? Have a look link and link. Does anyone know what might account for this color ‘evolution’?

    [quote comment=”48979″][quote comment=”48976″]stumbled upon these cartoonish staring linup type things, and when rotated each figure around, dare i say… logo creep?

    link
    I would say that they’re accurate figurines. I like that they left the shoes generic.[/quote]

    I second that. This, coming from someone who while working from home a few years ago went on a severe starting lineup bender on ebay…

    [quote comment=”48974″]Sorry if this has been posted before but I didn’t have time to go through all the posts from yesterday.

    From HFBoards.com:

    “Mike Heika” of the Dallas Morning news says this..

    Quote:
    “From what I’ve heard, they are very simple and basic. The white one has black striping with green in the letters and the old logo. The black ones have “DALLAS” in a semicircle across the front. Both have numbers on the front (I don’t like that much) – the whites with the number on the shoulder and the black with the number underneath the “DALLAS.” The striping is traditional around the arms and on the bottom of the sweater.”

    link, not the official thing that I found on the SportsLogos.net message board[/quote]

    How silly does the black one look with the number under “DALLAS.” Reminds me of when they had NBA player football-ish jerseys. So very ugly. So very stupid. I don’t think that black jersey passes the “Is it good or is it stupid” test.

    [quote comment=”48974″]Sorry if this has been posted before but I didn’t have time to go through all the posts from yesterday.

    From HFBoards.com:

    “Mike Heika” of the Dallas Morning news says this..

    Quote:
    “From what I’ve heard, they are very simple and basic. The white one has black striping with green in the letters and the old logo. The black ones have “DALLAS” in a semicircle across the front. Both have numbers on the front (I don’t like that much) – the whites with the number on the shoulder and the black with the number underneath the “DALLAS.” The striping is traditional around the arms and on the bottom of the sweater.”

    link, not the official thing that I found on the SportsLogos.net message board[/quote]

    Wow, I really like those black ones!

    [quote comment=”48980″][quote comment=”48943″][quote comment=”48939″]SI.com has some great shots in their Photo Gallery retrospective on Ken Dryden’s career.[/quote]

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?[/quote]

    The old blockers were made of leather, good for stopping pucks and keeping the pads inside. Like a baseball glove, the leather would hold onto the water if it got wet. Playing on ice, it normally would trap both sweat and water inside of it. The holes acted as aeration for the topside of the blocker as the plastic piece underneath the leather would allow a pool of water/sweat to form on the plastic.

    Now, having said this, I’m not sure how many goalies end up having their blockers face down on the ice, but my guess is close to zero. However, since leather tends to get wet and stay wet, that is what I was told by the goalie on my hockey team.[/quote]

    While a goalie wouldn’t put their blocker face down on the ice much they often get sprayed with snow from players stopping fast in front of them.

    [quote comment=”48989″]Quickie Quiz on the new 2008 Atlanta NHL All-Star Game logo?

    How many colors are in this monstrosity?
    And why?

    link

    5 Colors, possibly 6 if the blue in “All Star” is a different blue than the one in the Thrashers logo. We’ve got Black, Yellow, Brown-Yellow, Blue, Red, and possibly a second shade of blue.

    As for why there are that many colors, I have no idea. I always found the best logos stick to two colors, three at the most.

    [quote comment=”48991″][quote comment=”48989″]Quickie Quiz on the new 2008 Atlanta NHL All-Star Game logo?

    How many colors are in this monstrosity?
    And why?

    link

    5 Colors, possibly 6 if the blue in “All Star” is a different blue than the one in the Thrashers logo. We’ve got Black, Yellow, Brown-Yellow, Blue, Red, and possibly a second shade of blue.

    As for why there are that many colors, I have no idea. I always found the best logos stick to two colors, three at the most.[/quote]
    plus the grey inside the star

    5 Colors, possibly 6 if the blue in “All Star” is a different blue than the one in the Thrashers logo. We’ve got Black, Yellow, Brown-Yellow, Blue, Red, and possibly a second shade of blue.

    Def. two shades of blue. There’s also gray and white (the null color).

    [quote comment=”48993″][quote comment=”48991″][quote comment=”48989″]Quickie Quiz on the new 2008 Atlanta NHL All-Star Game logo?

    How many colors are in this monstrosity?
    And why?

    link

    5 Colors, possibly 6 if the blue in “All Star” is a different blue than the one in the Thrashers logo. We’ve got Black, Yellow, Brown-Yellow, Blue, Red, and possibly a second shade of blue.

    As for why there are that many colors, I have no idea. I always found the best logos stick to two colors, three at the most.[/quote]
    plus the grey inside the star[/quote]

    Gray is a shade of black, doesn’t count as a new color. White is the absence of color in computer graphics. So those two wouldn’t technically count.

    How silly does the black one look with the number under “DALLAS.” Reminds me of when they had NBA player football-ish jerseys. So very ugly. So very stupid. I don’t think that black jersey passes the “Is it good or is it stupid” test.[/quote]

    It looks exactly like us link jerseys, which I personally find a little weak. Too often, NCAA hockey sweaters look like something transferred from the link or the link team – link very link at all.

    [This is not on any of today’s topics; I did a search in this week’s postings and couldn’t find it, and wanted to open a thread. I am a new reader; let me know if there’s a better way to do it according to Uni Watch etiquette.]
    It seems obvious to me that link at the Australian open is a tribute to Australia in general and Aboriginal culture in particular. She is unquestionably wearing Australia’s sporting colors (green and gold); and I have seen those winding dot patterns in many pop (or otherwise abstracted) versions of Aboriginal art. My Australian girlfriend confirms this unscientific impression. It couldn’t be an accident, couldn’t even be considered subtle, with Nike involved, but I have not been able to find any other reference to it. If it’s true, it’s interesting and touching, considering Williams is an African-American. Any feedback?

    In the pix posted above from Dryden’s career, his sleeve number was inside the blue stripe. That’s a pretty cool style. The jersey he wore at his ceremony, though, positions the number above the stripe, like the current look.

    Maybe he wore that style too, dunno.

    What I do know is this: hockey, way more than the other sports, forces its players to wear jerseys for off-ice and ceremonial functions.

    Retired athletes are capable of many things, but looking good in jerseys simply isn’t one of them.

    Like we wouldn’t know it was Ken Dryden if he didn’t have a jersey on?

    NHL players always seem to wear their jerseys when they do community-work and p.r. events.

    Now, this is either because the league itself is desperate to brand and sell jerseys at every turn, or it’s to compensate for their failure to make NHL skaters household faces, if not names.

    Either way it’s a sad state for hockey.

    [quote comment=”48991″][quote comment=”48989″]Quickie Quiz on the new 2008 Atlanta NHL All-Star Game logo?

    How many colors are in this monstrosity?
    And why?

    link

    5 Colors, possibly 6 if the blue in “All Star” is a different blue than the one in the Thrashers logo. We’ve got Black, Yellow, Brown-Yellow, Blue, Red, and possibly a second shade of blue.

    As for why there are that many colors, I have no idea. I always found the best logos stick to two colors, three at the most.[/quote]

    I got 8…silver, white, black, yellow, burnt orange, maroon, dark blue and sky blue. I’d be a lot harder on this, but almost all those colors are in the Thrashers logo, so I’ll give it a pass.

    [quote comment=”48946″]
    That’s a link that dude link. I don’t know much about hockey but I know that it would hurt if you got hit in the head with a puck coming at you and that link he’s got on leaves plenty of link for a puck to the head.[/quote]

    Yeah, that’s the kind of link that link wore link throughout link and link link.

    I could be wrong about this, but I’m pretty sure that the late Pelle Lindburgh was the last goalie to wear one of these (although, there was a goalie for Vancouver and Grant Fuhr wearing them as late as 1983)

    link.

    Which reminds me: Why did goalies’ blockers used to have those recessed circles/dots? Did they serve some purpose? If so, why are they not included on current blockers?[/quote]

    Maybe it was a weight issue, the leather would get wet and become heavier, perhaps it was just a way to lighten the blocker.

    Nice post today Paul. Such amazing jacket technology. But did you really say “double wow” while on the phone with this guy?

    Just so you know, that Reebok pump jacket is a rip-off of our zip-in heated jacket, which has been selling to NFL coaches and players since 2003. Reebok can’t match our actual heat technology, so they introduced this joke to battle us for players and fans. …

    Unless Innovative Products has patented this zip-in heated technology the jokes on them because Reebok to their credit is protecting the multi-million dollar sideline rights deal they have with the NFL…

    Innovative Products was selling this pump jacket to NFL coaches… why the hell would an NFL coach ever pay for anything on the field? That’s stupid. Why, because Reebok will pay you big bucks to wear their product?

    Hey Colby, welcome to Team Outfitting 101 dude…if you want a licensing deal with the NFL, put up your minimum guarantee and pay your royalty fees just like the next guy…Sour grapes here.

    Maybe he wore that style too, dunno.

    He did. Check out #link in thelink

    What I do know is this: hockey, way more than the other sports, forces its players to wear jerseys for off-ice and ceremonial functions.

    Retired athletes are capable of many things, but looking good in jerseys simply isn’t one of them.

    Like we wouldn’t know it was Ken Dryden if he didn’t have a jersey on?

    NHL players always seem to wear their jerseys when they do community-work and p.r. events.

    Now, this is either because the league itself is desperate to brand and sell jerseys at every turn, or it’s to compensate for their failure to make NHL skaters household faces, if not names.

    Either way it’s a sad state for hockey.[/quote]

    No Way! It’s actually quite the opposite. Wearing your sweater has been a huge deal since you were a kid. When you made a rep team, kids always wore their sweaters to school the next day. Hockey sweaters were common apparel at school, period. Your uni was your tribe, and hockey has always embraced that notion. You go watch kids play on the local pond, and you’ll invaiably see different sweaters out there, from your favourite team to the team you’re on. In my experience, you’ll see more sweaters at link than you will basketball unis at a pickup game, or baseball jerseys at the sandlot. Hockey has always been about throwing on your colours whenever you get a chance.

    I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”

    Just as a sidenote for the goalies out there (and Uni Watcher in all of us):

    Dave Dryden, Ken’s brother, developed the hybrid helmets that the majority of NHL goalies use today. Dave used to play net for the Buffalo Sabres.

    [quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    glad to see i am not the only farker around here . . . and i assume there are many more

    [quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    Correction: “The goggles! They do nothing.” Borrowed from the Simpsons. Radioactive Man movie episode when Milhouse was given the role of Fallout Boy and was supposed to swoop in and save Raineer Wolfcastle (Radioactive Man) from a big wave of some sort of acid water. Milhouse failed to show up for the scene and Radioactive Man was given goggles to protect his eyes from the acid water when if it had come crashing down on him after for some reason. He puts on the goggles before the water hits him and then as he is being drenched in the liquid yells “The goggles! They do nothing!”

    I know, very nerdy of me to know this whole scene and the origins of such a stupid and random quote.

    [quote comment=”48938″][quote comment=”48935″]Wearing crap under a basketball jersey reminds me of Patrick Ewing when he was at Georgetown. It was his signature look. Why did he do that? Who else wore a shirt under their jersey? Why didn’t he do that in the NBA? Did they make him stop? Why didn’t he ever bring a championship to NY?[/quote]
    The story I remember was that G’Town played many of it’s home games in an arena with a court over a rink setup so it was always cold and he did it to keep warm. When he first started Nike took the opportunity to outfit him in a shirt with a sneaker pic on the sleeve, the NCAA put the kibosh on that rather quickly. I’ll look for a pic. Soon it was a G’Town look. I know the NBA wouldn’t let him do it and the NCAA made it a rule that the t-shirts had to match the uni and High Schools had similar rules.[/quote]

    BTW that arena was the Capital Centre, home of the Bullets and Caps. Or as Tony Kornheiser loving referred to it: “The Potato Chip on the Beltway”. It was pretty much across the Beltway from FedEx Field. It’s a mall now, I think.

    And yes, it was spelled Centre.

    [quote comment=”49016″][quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    Correction: “The goggles! They do nothing.” Borrowed from the Simpsons. Radioactive Man movie episode when Milhouse was given the role of Fallout Boy and was supposed to swoop in and save Raineer Wolfcastle (Radioactive Man) from a big wave of some sort of acid water. Milhouse failed to show up for the scene and Radioactive Man was given goggles to protect his eyes from the acid water when if it had come crashing down on him after for some reason. He puts on the goggles before the water hits him and then as he is being drenched in the liquid yells “The goggles! They do nothing!”

    I know, very nerdy of me to know this whole scene and the origins of such a stupid and random quote.[/quote]

    I’m sorry, awful grammar in that middle sentence. I hope you can figure it out. Geez, that was embarrassing.

    [quote comment=”48974″]Sorry if this has been posted before but I didn’t have time to go through all the posts from yesterday.

    From HFBoards.com:

    “Mike Heika” of the Dallas Morning news says this..

    Quote:
    “From what I’ve heard, they are very simple and basic. The white one has black striping with green in the letters and the old logo. The black ones have “DALLAS” in a semicircle across the front. Both have numbers on the front (I don’t like that much) – the whites with the number on the shoulder and the black with the number underneath the “DALLAS.” The striping is traditional around the arms and on the bottom of the sweater.”

    link, not the official thing that I found on the SportsLogos.net message board[/quote]

    Wow those actually don’t look that bad, better than current jerseys. I love the name over number look. Very classic. Just like BU, which have the best uniforms in the country.

    [quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    I’d wear that suit in a heartbeat. I’d love to see the shoes he chose to wear with it.

    anyone know what teams are wearing what uniforms in the Super Bowl? I also would like to say that the 2007 NBA All Star Jerseys look sweet with the Vegas Theme, even if the number is over the player nameplate!

    just watching the replay of the Bears’ Media Day session, and they had Brian Urlacher take off his hat a couple of minutes into his interview. The hat, a Vitamin Water hat, I guess was not approved apparel from the NFL…

    [quote comment=”49023″]anyone know what teams are wearing what uniforms in the Super Bowl? I also would like to say that the 2007 NBA All Star Jerseys look sweet with the Vegas Theme, even if the number is over the player nameplate![/quote]

    Colts – White
    Bears – Blue

    The Stars unis need a little work. I love the current ones (original but not tacky for the sake of tacky)and was intrigued when I read the description in the DMN. I think they should lose the traditional stripes. Just go with the logos on plain jerseys. The simpler the better. i really like the road design without the striping.

    [quote comment=”49024″]just watching the replay of the Bears’ Media Day session, and they had Brian Urlacher take off his hat a couple of minutes into his interview. The hat, a Vitamin Water hat, I guess was not approved apparel from the NFL…[/quote]

    I heard a commercial on the radio yesterday if you do a Urlacher song with Vitamin Water included in it you can win something…tickets to the Super Bowl maybe

    I also heard there would be no sighting of link at the Super Bowl

    I got 8…silver, white, black, yellow, burnt orange, maroon, dark blue and sky blue. I’d be a lot harder on this, but almost all those colors are in the Thrashers logo, so I’ll give it a pass.

    Mike- You’re a winner!

    Spot on. Eight colors, if you were to embroider a hat or silkscreen a shirt it would take 8 colors to reproduce that mess…

    I disagree about giving it a pass however…why is it necessary to repeat the same visual trainwreck twice…the Thrasher (dumbass name and logo) being swallowed in the vortex is ridiculous…

    No logo creep, but rather product placement: link

    Hopefully the stripes around the bottom of the link in this super-unofficial mockup will carry over…

    Last night the Habs gave out little cardboard replicas of Dryden’s link, and lots of fans kept them on throughout the game, but I can’t find a photo.

    Been meaning to ask this for sometime, but what is the link patch Villanova has been wearing all season for?

    [quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    …and the suit…and that tie! I know it was the 70’s, but come on…that’s got to be the worst combination of colours and patterns that ever been linked to here, including anything purple.

    [quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    Wow, I never knew Bubbles was a Conn Smythe winner!

    [quote comment=”49033″]Been meaning to ask this for sometime, but what is the link patch Villanova has been wearing all season for?[/quote]

    Paul Arizin, “Villanova legend” and 1949-50 National player of the year, died in Dec. He wore #11.

    link

    I think the BU college hockey “sweater” is pretty classic and keeping it traditional is good, though Dallas trying that is a bit iffy, I’m not sure how much I like that idea in the NHL.

    The Asian Winter Games have started up and have created crazy hockey scores, Kazakhstan over Thailand 52-1, China over Macau 26-0, but things have been pretty modest when it comes to the sweaters. Here are a number of the recent hockey photos (sorry, the writing is all in Chinese): link
    Here, Kuwait is wearing what appears to be an unlogoed RBK practice jersey (though gotta love the stripes on the Toronto leggings): link

    here’s the mascot playing all the different sports: link

    I will continue to check it out and see if there are any interesting uni happenings…

    [quote comment=”49046″]
    Here, Kuwait is wearing what appears to be an unlogoed RBK practice jersey (though gotta love the stripes on the Toronto leggings): link

    Or perhaps the Minnesota Wild-esque jersey of the opposing team. link. link at that unnamed Asian team.

    [quote comment=”49050″][quote comment=”49046″]
    Here, Kuwait is wearing what appears to be an unlogoed RBK practice jersey (though gotta love the stripes on the Toronto leggings): link

    Or perhaps the Minnesota Wild-esque jersey of the opposing team. link. link at that unnamed Asian team.[/quote]

    Wow. Pretty interesting stuff. I’m also seeing some Buffaslugs and Coyotes templates re-logoed by these teams, but my colorblindness may be deceiving me.

    Also of note, when I access this page, in the bar at the top of the window, none of the Chinese characters translate, so I’m left with just a bunch of empty squares… with “NIKE” right in the middle! Man, if there is an opportunity they miss, I’m sure not aware of it.

    [quote comment=”49060″]any idea what happened to this guy?

    link

    Helmet off = neck/back injury… 99% of the time.

    I assume he probably got run into the end boards by someone.

    Someone was asking yesterday about Puma making NFL uniforms. Here is photographic proof today that the Titans did at one point: link

    Check out the logo on the right hip of Joe Salave.

    And here’s more Puma proof on the sleeve Kurt Warner’s Ram’s jersey.

    link

    It’s funny because I don’t remember Puma ever making football uniforms–authentic or replica–and yet there they are.

    [quote comment=”49063″][quote comment=”49037″]If the NHL is not going back to home whites next year, as I believe Paul confirmed, why would the Stars’ link? That’s contrary to the link of link vs. link unis.[/quote]

    Actually, what I confirmed was that the league will NOT be switching back to white-at-home next season.[/quote]

    Paul, that’s whay he said…you confirmed that “the NHL is not goingback to home whites next year,”.

    [quote comment=”49062″]Someone was asking yesterday about Puma making NFL uniforms. Here is photographic proof today that the Titans did at one point: link

    Check out the logo on the right hip of Joe Salave.[/quote]

    Puma made uniforms for quite a few NFL teams in the late 1990s. At that time, the league was split roughly evenly between Nike, Adidas, and Puma. What really bugged me about the Puma logo (aside from the usual logo creep concerns) was that it included the jumping tiger and the word “PUMA.” Since many football jerseys don’t include any words other than the player’s name (this was more true in the late 1990s, but it’s still true of many teams today), the Puma-outfitted teams were wearing uniforms that contained only one word — and that word was “Puma.” That, to me, was really, really wrong.

    Also: I believe Puma outfitted the Bengals during this period, so the sleeves had two different jumping tigers.

    [quote comment=”49065″][quote comment=”49063″][quote comment=”49037″]If the NHL is not going back to home whites next year, as I believe Paul confirmed, why would the Stars’ link? That’s contrary to the link of link vs. link unis.[/quote]

    Actually, what I confirmed was that the league will NOT be switching back to white-at-home next season.[/quote]

    Paul, that’s whay he said…you confirmed that “the NHL is not goingback to home whites next year,”.[/quote]

    Someone needs to pay closer attention here. And that someone is me….

    About the Bengals being outfitted by Puma (see Comment #92), you can see the two leaping tigers on one sleeve link. That photo is from 2000.

    [quote comment=”49050″][quote comment=”49046″]
    Here, Kuwait is wearing what appears to be an unlogoed RBK practice jersey (though gotta love the stripes on the Toronto leggings): link

    Or perhaps the Minnesota Wild-esque jersey of the opposing team. link. link at that unnamed Asian team.[/quote]

    My thoughts exactly, Teebz. By the way, why didn’t you join the jersey-fest last night???

    Jeff I, your links of you in your jerseys didn’t work. Repost?

    [quote comment=”49069″][quote comment=”49050″][quote comment=”49046″]
    Here, Kuwait is wearing what appears to be an unlogoed RBK practice jersey (though gotta love the stripes on the Toronto leggings): link

    Or perhaps the Minnesota Wild-esque jersey of the opposing team. link. link at that unnamed Asian team.[/quote]

    My thoughts exactly, Teebz. By the way, why didn’t you join the jersey-fest last night???

    Jeff I, your links of you in your jerseys didn’t work. Repost?[/quote]

    I’ve been busy the last few days. 5 hockey games in 4 days… let’s just say that the legs feel like rubber today.

    As for jerseys, it will take me some time to post all of them. My obsession goes back into my teens, and I have some obvious “ugly” jerseys: the Islanders’ Fisherman, the link, the link… despite all three of these being eyesores that no one bought, I thought they’d be worth the money if/when I open my own sports-themed bar. Like that will ever happen with no pro sports in this city. :o)

    [quote comment=”49068″]About the Bengals being outfitted by Puma (see Comment #92), you can see the two leaping tigers on one sleeve link. That photo is from 2000.[/quote]

    Two leaping tigers… I love it!

    I was aware of the “Puma Era” of NFL jerseys because I had one of link (not autographed, though), which I purchased the day after “The Onside Kick Game” at Texas Stadium in September 2000. link is further manufacturer-related evidence. (Add Da Iggles to the list of Puma-wearers if we haven’t already.)

    [quote comment=”49022″][quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    I’d wear that suit in a heartbeat. I’d love to see the shoes he chose to wear with it.[/quote]

    Forget the shoes, here’s the link he left at home.

    When did the NFL start making players wear their game pants for Media Day? It looks corny to me. I wonder if is because of the Reebok license?

    [quote comment=”49055″][quote comment=”49050″][quote comment=”49046″]
    Also of note, when I access this page, in the bar at the top of the window, none of the Chinese characters translate, so I’m left with just a bunch of empty squares… with “NIKE” right in the middle! Man, if there is an opportunity they miss, I’m sure not aware of it.[/quote]

    yes, great moments in logo creep, Nike has signed a deal with sina (one of the main Chinese websites) and thus all their sports pages are sponsored by Nike. There are also photos each month of the newest Nike products…

    The injury to the UAE player happened on a collision, it turned out not to be as bad as it looks, though he won’t be playing in the tournament again.

    This is too strange, the Chinese cross country skiers celebrate after their victory: link
    okay, all adidas, but then on the medal stand:
    link
    Nike head to toe….

    Thailand celebrates its one goal in their 52-1 defeat: link

    Kuwait’s home jersey’s are unbranded and definitely use the Toronto template (here playing China whose nameplates look horrible) : link

    This is something I’ve never seen before, typical name above numbers, but then the team name between the stripes? link

    and since the all star game kick of late, here’s the Chinese League Basketball All Stars against the Korean League Basketball All Stars: link

    [quote comment=”49074″][quote comment=”49068″]About the Bengals being outfitted by Puma (see Comment #92), you can see the two leaping tigers on one sleeve link. That photo is from 2000.[/quote]

    Two leaping tigers… I love it!
    [/quote]

    Wouldn’t one be a leaping tiger and one be a leaping puma?

    [quote comment=”48997″]It looks exactly like us link jerseys, which I personally find a little weak. Too often, NCAA hockey sweaters look like something transferred from the link or the link team – link very link at all.[/quote]
    You’re painting with a pretty broad brush there, far more NCAA teams don’t have numbers on the front than do. Off the top of my head, the teams I remember wearing front numbers this year/recently are BU, UMass, Merrimack, UAF, Miami, Bemidji, Denver, Colgate, Dartmouth, Harvard, and Yale. That’s 11 out of 59 or 60 D1 programs.

    And I gotta say I find it amusing that you site Maine’s jersey as a “not very hockey” jersey, since (though it pains me to say so as they are an opponent in my alma mater’s conference) the Maine jersey is considered a classic. I know a lot of folks who hate Maine but love that jersey…

    -Ricardo

    [quote comment=”49084″][quote comment=”48997″]It looks exactly like us link jerseys, which I personally find a little weak. Too often, NCAA hockey sweaters look like something transferred from the link or the link team – link very link at all.[/quote]
    You’re painting with a pretty broad brush there, far more NCAA teams don’t have numbers on the front than do. Off the top of my head, the teams I remember wearing front numbers this year/recently are BU, UMass, Merrimack, UAF, Miami, Bemidji, Denver, Colgate, Dartmouth, Harvard, and Yale. That’s 11 out of 59 or 60 D1 programs.

    And I gotta say I find it amusing that you site Maine’s jersey as a “not very hockey” jersey, since (though it pains me to say so as they are an opponent in my alma mater’s conference) the Maine jersey is considered a classic. I know a lot of folks who hate Maine but love that jersey…

    -Ricardo[/quote]

    I think YOU are painting with a broad brush. Calling Merrimack a Division 1 hockey team is just wrong. My alma mater and I’m even hesitant to call them division 1. They are the Lions of college hockey.

    [quote comment=”49087″][quote comment=”49084″][quote comment=”48997″]It looks exactly like us link jerseys, which I personally find a little weak. Too often, NCAA hockey sweaters look like something transferred from the link or the link team – link very link at all.[/quote]
    You’re painting with a pretty broad brush there, far more NCAA teams don’t have numbers on the front than do. Off the top of my head, the teams I remember wearing front numbers this year/recently are BU, UMass, Merrimack, UAF, Miami, Bemidji, Denver, Colgate, Dartmouth, Harvard, and Yale. That’s 11 out of 59 or 60 D1 programs.

    And I gotta say I find it amusing that you site Maine’s jersey as a “not very hockey” jersey, since (though it pains me to say so as they are an opponent in my alma mater’s conference) the Maine jersey is considered a classic. I know a lot of folks who hate Maine but love that jersey…

    -Ricardo[/quote]

    I think YOU are painting with a broad brush. Calling Merrimack a Division 1 hockey team is just wrong. My alma mater and I’m even hesitant to call them division 1. They are the Lions of college hockey.[/quote]

    But they do have a great logo. link

    Did anybody else see H.B. Blades from Pitt’s helmet in the Senior Bowl. He was wearing the Pitt script in Navy on a Gold helmet rather than the block PITT they used this year. I looked for pics, but found none. Also Tyler Palko wore the regular helmet.

    From what I’ve heard the Super Bowl is a place that, in this case, Reebok tests new produts that they use the next year.

    I bet this is the linknext year…

    Oh and baseball did this in the 05 WS when Chicago and Houston debuted the ‘sphere’ nike drifits with the speckles that were used league wide this year…

    [quote comment=”49056″]Don’t know if any of you are familiar with shopgoodwill.com, but they have some cool stuff…like link![/quote]

    someone buy that!! If not for the classicness of the helmet, then for the fact that those sell for like 200 bucks on ebay

    [quote comment=”48989″]Quickie Quiz on the new 2008 Atlanta NHL All-Star Game logo?

    How many colors are in this monstrosity?
    And why?

    link
    I seriously don’t know why the NHL doesn’t pull ratings..apparently the Neilson ratings flunked in Dallas, roughly 1000’s tuned in the to the game, in Dallas alone, what’s wrong U.S. fans, you wanted goals you got’em, you wanted new rules you got’em, what gives..NHL should just pack up and leave the south and stay with cities like Pitt.Buff.etc.

    [quote comment=”49090″]Great article about out of control logos on college hoops floors on link today.[/quote]

    damn, just missed it

    [quote comment=”49083″]link link from media day.[/quote]

    Yes sir!

    Anyone catch Pat Forde’s column today on the college basketball courts? Who’s keeping him accountable?

    I still can’t find photographic evidence of the cardboard Dryden masks last night, but I did find this:

    link

    [quote comment=”49099″]Anyone catch Pat Forde’s column today on the college basketball courts? Who’s keeping him accountable?[/quote]

    The column was interesting, but I’m surprised there was no mention of the increase over the pst few years in schools that don’t paint the key.
    I think he omitted the large W at Washington and should have mentioned the flames shooting from the baselines at Northwestern State.

    [quote comment=”49094″][quote comment=”49056″]Don’t know if any of you are familiar with shopgoodwill.com, but they have some cool stuff…like link![/quote]

    someone buy that!! If not for the classicness of the helmet, then for the fact that those sell for like 200 bucks on ebay[/quote]

    Youth-size or not, that helmet’s a collectible. Many college and professional teams used the very same style.

    [quote comment=”49092″]From what I’ve heard the Super Bowl is a place that, in this case, Reebok tests new produts that they use the next year.

    I bet this is the linknext year…

    Oh and baseball did this in the 05 WS when Chicago and Houston debuted the ‘sphere’ nike drifits with the speckles that were used league wide this year…[/quote]

    you mean those atrocities that are actually against the ruses of baseball? In teh baseball rulebook undershirts must be solid colored.

    [quote comment=”49103″][quote comment=”49099″]Anyone catch Pat Forde’s column today on the college basketball courts? Who’s keeping him accountable?[/quote]

    The column was interesting, but I’m surprised there was no mention of the increase over the pst few years in schools that don’t paint the key.
    I think he omitted the large W at Washington and should have mentioned the flames shooting from the baselines at Northwestern State.[/quote]

    Not a bad article, if I do say so myself. While I may disagree with some of his comments, I gotta thank him for giving a shout out to my personal favorite. Could’ve found a newer pic, though…we’ve got new electronics and lighting in there, plus the logo faces the other side now and has the interlocking IU on it instead of the regular capital “I”.

    [quote comment=”49082″][quote comment=”49074″][quote comment=”49068″]About the Bengals being outfitted by Puma (see Comment #92), you can see the two leaping tigers on one sleeve link. That photo is from 2000.[/quote]

    Two leaping tigers… I love it!
    [/quote]

    Wouldn’t one be a leaping tiger and one be a leaping puma?[/quote]

    Isn’t “puma” another name for a mountain lion?

    [quote comment=”49097″][quote comment=”48989″]Quickie Quiz on the new 2008 Atlanta NHL All-Star Game logo?

    How many colors are in this monstrosity?
    And why?

    link
    I seriously don’t know why the NHL doesn’t pull ratings..apparently the Neilson ratings flunked in Dallas, roughly 1000’s tuned in the to the game, in Dallas alone, what’s wrong U.S. fans, you wanted goals you got’em, you wanted new rules you got’em, what gives..NHL should just pack up and leave the south and stay with cities like Pitt.Buff.etc.[/quote]

    The problem is that the all-star game was on a channel called Versus in the U.S., a channel that close to no one gets…That would be a Bettman mistake, not at all the fans. I wanted to watch it, but couldn’t cause I don’t get that channel.

    Really Minna?

    Hm, most were taken from Mysapce or facebook and rehosted on ImageShack.

    I’ll have to investigate so you guys can see my ugly mug. At least one of the pics I have a bag on over my head :)

    I’d wear that suit in a heartbeat. I’d love to see the shoes he chose to wear with it.[/quote]

    Forget the shoes, here’s the link he left at home.[/quote]

    I’d wear link one instead.

    [quote comment=”49077″]When did the NFL start making players wear their game pants for Media Day? It looks corny to me. I wonder if is because of the Reebok license?[/quote]

    I agree. I understand jerseys because most of the players you wouldn’t know unless they were wearing their jersey. Pants (and socks) just look dumb, especially with no other equipment on.

    link

    What was wrong with khaki shorts or jeans?

    . What really bugged me about the Puma logo (aside from the usual logo creep concerns) was that it included the jumping tiger and the word “PUMA.” Since many football jerseys don’t include any words other than the player’s name (this was more true in the late 1990s, but it’s still true of many teams today), the Puma-outfitted teams were wearing uniforms that contained only one word — and that word was “Puma.” That, to me, was really, really wrong.

    The adidas jersies also had lettering, since they had link on them. It “flows” better than the puma logo, though.

    [quote comment=”49110″]Wow I’ve never seen the Cowboys were these link before. They’re from Super Bowl 5. Very similar to the home Colts unis.[/quote]

    They replaced those with link for road games versus white-wearers, meaning they have two different shades of blue on their unis; the link match the link when applicable but are link, like the link.

    link it looks like a certain ne’er-do-well is wearing the wrong pants.

    [quote comment=”49110″]Wow I’ve never seen the Cowboys were these link before. They’re from Super Bowl 5. Very similar to the home Colts unis.[/quote]
    Would someone explain what’s going on with the pants in that picture? Why the two-tone?

    The thing that Mo Williams is wearing under his jersey is nothing more than a padded moisture wicking shirt, much like the one that UA, McDavid and other companies make. I have seen the shirt before (I work at a sporting goods store), but right now myself nor any co-workes can remember the company. Whenever I find out I will let you know.

    [quote comment=”49139″]Has everyone else noticed that the “I” the Super Bowl XLI link is the humble link?

    It has to be the best use for the field device since link.[/quote]

    That is so lame.

    “ha ha. it says, ‘i choo choo choose you to be my valentine.” – wiggum

    [quote comment=”49087″]I think YOU are painting with a broad brush. Calling Merrimack a Division 1 hockey team is just wrong. My alma mater and I’m even hesitant to call them division 1. They are the Lions of college hockey.[/quote]
    Well, I didn’t want to be impolite. I know they try hard (like Union)…

    -Ricardo

    I think YOU are painting with a broad brush. Calling Merrimack a Division 1 hockey team is just wrong. My alma mater and I’m even hesitant to call them division 1. They are the Lions of college hockey.[/quote]

    But they do have a great logo. link[/quote]

    They do. It’s a shame they didn’t put it on the front of their sweaters.

    Hey, you all remember one of the all-time fun court designs…how about the Houston Rockets old court design…wacky good God…

    link

    Sweet. That’s when the NBA was fun. Oh the good old (Jordan) days…

    Has anyone noticed that in this pic of Ken Dryden wearing a Vintage jersey that the NHL logo in the Vintage logo is the old one, not the New Silver one.
    link

    OK, I forgot to mention this before, but it was terrible.

    During today’s NFL Live Jimmy Johnson was wearing a master card logo pin on his jacket. It was small, but you knew what it was. Tre Wingo also introducted him as something along the lines of Jimmy Johnson sponsered by mastercard and sam’s club…

    WHERE DOES IT END?!!!!!!!!!

    Has everyone else noticed that the “I” the Super Bowl XLI logo is the humble pylon?

    It has to be the best use for the field device since this.

    That is so lame.

    Great observation. Yeah, that’s the last thing in the world you would want to feature in the NFL’s most prestigious logo icon ever?

    Hmmm. let’s see… let’s use a pylon in the logo this year…never done that before…and for good reason… lame is correct…

    [quote comment=”49175″]Has everyone else noticed that the “I” the Super Bowl XLI logo is the humble pylon?

    It has to be the best use for the field device since this.

    That is so lame.

    Great observation. Yeah, that’s the last thing in the world you would want to feature in the NFL’s most prestigious logo icon ever?

    Hmmm. let’s see… let’s use a pylon in the logo this year…never done that before…and for good reason… lame is correct…[/quote]

    I guess its good that link isn’t a Roman numeral.

    [quote comment=”49121″][quote comment=”49077″]When
    What was wrong with khaki shorts or jeans?[/quote]

    If they showed up in their game jerseys and khaki shows, I would hope plenty of people on this board would rip that too. We might not want to see o-lineman in khaki shorts. Plus I think many of these players have better fashion sense than to combine khaki shorts with a football jersey.

    [quote comment=”49006″]I dont know if this has been talked about or not, but I ran across this years link.[/quote]
    Please tell me this is a mean joke of some sort, meant to cause damage to our retina

    [quote comment=”49037″]If the NHL is not going back to home whites next year, as I believe Paul confirmed, why would the Stars’ link? That’s contrary to the link of link vs. link unis.[/quote]
    Rumor has it the switch back to home whites is goin down next year

    [quote comment=”49217″][quote comment=”49121″][quote comment=”49077″]When
    What was wrong with khaki shorts or jeans?[/quote]

    If they showed up in their game jerseys and khaki shows, I would hope plenty of people on this board would rip that too. We might not want to see o-lineman in khaki shorts. Plus I think many of these players have better fashion sense than to combine khaki shorts with a football jersey.[/quote]
    Khaki shorts and a football jersey does not look bad at all. I and probably half of the football team wore khaki shorts on Fridays before games, and it looks perfectly fine.

    Tonight’s Mich. St.-Illinois game is bright orange vs. green. Pretty cool if you ask me, although a tad bit hard to watch.

    [quote comment=”49011″]I’m just amazed nobody has commented on link pic. To borrow a cliche from Fark.com, “The Goggles! They do nothing!”[/quote]

    Uh..nice ORANGE and BROWN jacket, Ken.

    [quote comment=”49066″][quote comment=”49062″]Someone was asking yesterday about Puma making NFL uniforms. Here is photographic proof today that the Titans did at one point: link

    Check out the logo on the right hip of Joe Salave.[/quote]

    Puma made uniforms for quite a few NFL teams in the late 1990s. At that time, the league was split roughly evenly between Nike, Adidas, and Puma. What really bugged me about the Puma logo (aside from the usual logo creep concerns) was that it included the jumping tiger and the word “PUMA.” Since many football jerseys don’t include any words other than the player’s name (this was more true in the late 1990s, but it’s still true of many teams today), the Puma-outfitted teams were wearing uniforms that contained only one word — and that word was “Puma.” That, to me, was really, really wrong.

    Also: I believe Puma outfitted the Bengals during this period, so the sleeves had two different jumping tigers.[/quote]

    In the 90’s, there was Wilson..Starter..Russell..Apex..Champion..then Nike, Adidas, Reebok, Logo (GET REAL!) Athletic, and Puma. (you couldnt even wear Puma shoes!)

    Puma bought Logo, and just sliced off the “L” and replaced it with their own logo- a lot of those jerseys looked sloppy.

    Apex was bought by Converse, which is how they got to be “The official shoe of the NFL” (like Apex was.)

    If I recall, Nike had nothing to do with the NFL outside of shoes and gloves, til Jerry Jones forced the issue and signed his OWN deal for Nike to do the Cowboys-w/o league approval, but he had to wait a year or something. He did it cause Apex went under. So for that season, the coaches wore plain white polos and plain navy jackets..and no corporate logos anywhere on the uni’s.

    Today’s Super Bowl Media Day made me think of something that I’m sure someone on this board has the answer to. What is the breakdown of Super Bowl winning teams that wore white jerseys vs. Super Bowl winning teams that wore dark jerseys? I know that the “home” conference team typically wears the dark jerseys, but last year Pittsburgh opted for white jerseys, and I’m guessing the Cowboys chose to wear their whites once or twice in the 90’s. Just a thought…

    [quote comment=”49121″][quote comment=”49077″]When did the NFL start making players wear their game pants for Media Day? It looks corny to me. I wonder if is because of the Reebok license?[/quote]

    I agree. I understand jerseys because most of the players you wouldn’t know unless they were wearing their jersey. Pants (and socks) just look dumb, especially with no other equipment on.

    link

    What was wrong with khaki shorts or jeans?[/quote]

    My only thought is to know who is a player and who isn’t, i.e. a media person impersonating a player. Another thought on all the Reebok stuff is the hats, who designs them? Every hat I try to buy these days is the one with no Reebok or NFL shield. The hats today are way too flashy. What happen to the hats of the good old days?

    [quote comment=”49225″][quote comment=”49037″]If the NHL is not going back to home whites next year, as I believe Paul confirmed, why would the Stars’ link? That’s contrary to the link of link vs. link unis.[/quote]
    Rumor has it the switch back to home whites is goin down next year[/quote]

    The NHL should go back to the home team wearing white. For how many games they play it is nice to see some contrast. That was the whole reason Tex Schramm had the Dallas Cowboys wear white at home in the first place.

    This may not be uniform related specifically, but it is all about logos on basketball courts. I thought some might be interested — I hope it hasn’t been posted yet.

    Was watching the AHL All Star hockey game today on FSN. The link werent too bad. Team link jersey was a little boring, but one thing I did notice was that instead of the USA vs. Canada, it was link vs. Canada. Didnt know if there was a reasoning behind this. I just thought it was kinda funny since well…The US isnt a planet?

    [quote comment=”49113″]Really Minna?

    Hm, most were taken from Mysapce or facebook and rehosted on ImageShack.

    I’ll have to investigate so you guys can see my ugly mug. At least one of the pics I have a bag on over my head :)[/quote]

    Jeff, yeah, really. It happened to someone else using ImageShack trying to post jersey pics (think it was Kenny, but don’t hold me to it). Please repost as I like seeing everyone’s different jerseys.

    [quote comment=”49254″]Today’s Super Bowl Media Day made me think of something that I’m sure someone on this board has the answer to. What is the breakdown of Super Bowl winning teams that wore white jerseys vs. Super Bowl winning teams that wore dark jerseys? I know that the “home” conference team typically wears the dark jerseys, but last year Pittsburgh opted for white jerseys, and I’m guessing the Cowboys chose to wear their whites once or twice in the 90’s. Just a thought…[/quote]

    Teams wearing the white uniforms are 23-17 in the Super Bowl.

    Pictures on the Mets website on John Maine, Tom Glavine, Julio Franco and Jose Reyes doing some charity work in the new BP jerseys. They look SO muhc better without the black block shoulders. Blue as the primary color looks phenominal. Looks a little weird without the front numbers though

    [quote comment=”49254″]Today’s Super Bowl Media Day made me think of something that I’m sure someone on this board has the answer to. What is the breakdown of Super Bowl winning teams that wore white jerseys vs. Super Bowl winning teams that wore dark jerseys? I know that the “home” conference team typically wears the dark jerseys, but last year Pittsburgh opted for white jerseys, and I’m guessing the Cowboys chose to wear their whites once or twice in the 90’s. Just a thought…[/quote]

    17 winners wore colored jerseys, 23 wore white.

    Of the 23 who wore white, only 3 teams that had the choice and picked white won (Redskins 17, Cowboys 27, Steelers 40)

    What team has worn the most different uniform designs in Super Bowl history. This does NOT include whether the jersey was white or color, just that the designs were different designs?

    [quote comment=”49310″]What team has worn the most different uniform designs in Super Bowl history. This does NOT include whether the jersey was white or color, just that the designs were different designs?[/quote]

    A bunch of teams have worn three, including Dallas, Pittsburgh, Denver, San Francisco, and Washington. But the most different designs winner would probably have to be New England, because most of the aforementioned teams only made small changes to their uniforms. The Patriots on the other hand had 3 very distinct looks – the red Pat Patriot look in 1985, the Bledsoe/Parcells era bright blues in 1996, and the current navy look in 2001/03/04.

    [quote comment=”49277″]Was watching the AHL All Star hockey game today on FSN…I did notice was that instead of the USA vs. Canada, it was link vs. Canada. Didnt know if there was a reasoning behind this. I just thought it was kinda funny since well…The US isnt a planet?[/quote]

    Canada has enough All-Star caliber players to make up a side. The other side is players from the USA and every other country on the planet. (Europe, of course, but has any other continent placed a player in a hockey All Star game yet?)

    Just a naming device to let us know which are the Americans.

    [quote comment=”49136″]
    Would someone explain what’s going on with the pants in that picture? Why the two-tone?[/quote]

    the different materials used in making the pants cause the two-tone effect. it really wasn’t supposed to look that way but the technology of the time limited what they could do. the same effect can been see on the white nhl all star sweaters.

    Puma were also exclusive suppliers to NFL Europe in 2000 and 2001 until Reebok took over in 2002.

    link

    Hope you like the sponsorship logos as well! Ericsson (the mobile phone compnay) were a league-wide sponsor and Airtel (a Spanish mobile phone network) were a team sponsor, so each team had a different logo on their left shoulder.

    [quote comment=”49338″][quote comment=”49277″]Was watching the AHL All Star hockey game today on FSN…I did notice was that instead of the USA vs. Canada, it was link vs. Canada. Didnt know if there was a reasoning behind this. I just thought it was kinda funny since well…The US isnt a planet?[/quote]

    Canada has enough All-Star caliber players to make up a side. The other side is players from the USA and every other country on the planet. (Europe, of course, but has any other continent placed a player in a hockey All Star game yet?)

    Just a naming device to let us know which are the Americans.[/quote]

    Technically, Rod Langway – an all-star defenseman from the 70s and 80s – was from Taiwan. And more recently, Robyn Regehr from the Calgary Flames is from Brazil. Yes, they spent their formative years in Canada….


    Khaki shorts and a football jersey does not look bad at all. I and probably half of the football team wore khaki shorts on Fridays before games, and it looks perfectly fine.[/quote]

    Yes and when you throw on your khaki’s, polo shirt and a pair of running shoes, it still looks “sharp”!

    [quote comment=”49304″]Maxim did a link with the link.

    Couldn’t they at least give her a pair of NFL officials socks, rather than link?[/quote]

    Thanks, Anthony for the link. Didn’t notice the socks, though.

    What team has worn the most different uniform designs in Super Bowl history. This does NOT include whether the jersey was white or color, just that the designs were different designs?

    A bunch of teams have worn three, including Dallas, Pittsburgh, Denver, San Francisco, and Washington. But the most different designs winner would probably have to be New England, because most of the aforementioned teams only made small changes to their uniforms. The Patriots on the other hand had 3 very distinct looks – the red Pat Patriot look in 1985, the Bledsoe/Parcells era bright blues in 1996, and the current navy look in 2001/03/04.

    Lindsay- you’ve cranked the DaVinci code. The Patriots have in fact worn three distinctly different uniform designs in the Super Bowl… Yes the Flying Elvis logo helmet carried over from Super Bowl,

    1986- link

    1997-
    link

    2001-
    link

    [quote comment=”49331″][quote comment=”49310″]What team has worn the most different uniform designs in Super Bowl history. This does NOT include whether the jersey was white or color, just that the designs were different designs?[/quote]

    A bunch of teams have worn three, including Dallas, Pittsburgh, Denver, San Francisco, and Washington. But the most different designs winner would probably have to be New England, because most of the aforementioned teams only made small changes to their uniforms. The Patriots on the other hand had 3 very distinct looks – the red Pat Patriot look in 1985, the Bledsoe/Parcells era bright blues in 1996, and the current navy look in 2001/03/04.[/quote]

    SB teams that wore two distinctive styles include:

    Philadelphia Eagles: uber-striped green/silver (XV) and dark green/white (XXXIX)
    St. Louis Rams: bright blue/yellow (XXXIV) and Navy/gold (XXXVI)
    New York Giants: w/ “GIANTS” on helmet (Parcells era) and w/ “ny” on helmet (XXXV)

    Since all three have settled on their current styles, New England’s record appears safe.

    Ahem… so.. I don’t see where it says coaches paid for it. They don’t. They can still get their money and wear it under the onfield jacket, and do. Sour grapes are for loosers, and Pumpin ain’t easy. Have you check the scoreboard recently? Cream Rises. Is this a little clearer for you?

    [quote comment=”49008″]Just so you know, that Reebok pump jacket is a rip-off of our zip-in heated jacket, which has been selling to NFL coaches and players since 2003. Reebok can’t match our actual heat technology, so they introduced this joke to battle us for players and fans. …

    Unless Innovative Products has patented this zip-in heated technology the jokes on them because Reebok to their credit is protecting the multi-million dollar sideline rights deal they have with the NFL…

    Innovative Products was selling this pump jacket to NFL coaches… why the hell would an NFL coach ever pay for anything on the field? That’s stupid. Why, because Reebok will pay you big bucks to wear their product?

    Hey Colby, welcome to Team Outfitting 101 dude…if you want a licensing deal with the NFL, put up your minimum guarantee and pay your royalty fees just like the next guy…Sour grapes here.[/quote]

    Answered in the response above

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