Coming Soon: The Bronze Jockstrap

I’m thinking another “award” that has apparel on it could be the baseball Hall of Fame plaques. Much ado is made of what team goes on the caps, and it is their official commemoration. That’s the first thing that comes to mind, and I don’t know if it will be the last. Definitely the most prominent.

And I especially like the R and L on the legs of that Gold Pants Club thingy. What the hell kind of purpose could that possibly serve? Are we outfitting mice and teaching them to put their pants on one leg at a time like us humans? Or, is it for when they look down at their feet to put on their shoes, so that they know which foot is which?

[quote comment=”23071″][quote comment=”23069″]And I especially like the R and L on the legs of that Gold Pants Club thingy. What the hell kind of purpose could that possibly serve?[/quote]

I think those are the recipient’s initials.[/quote]

Funny nonetheless.

[quote comment=”23075″][quote comment=”23072″]I think the winner of the annual LSU-Arkansas tilt gets a trophy called ‘The Boot’, but its shaped like Louisiana and Arkansas stuck together.[/quote]

That is correct, and it weighs 175 lbs.

link

[quote comment=”23071″][quote comment=”23069″]And I especially like the R and L on the legs of that Gold Pants Club thingy. What the hell kind of purpose could that possibly serve?[/quote]

I think those are the recipient’s initials.[/quote]

That is a fantastic coincidence. Mind if I ask why you think that? (Other than the fact that it would be a totally inane thing to put left/right there.)

Why don’t victorious Wolverines now get little silver sweater vest charms? Seems like a no-brainer.

[quote comment=”23065″]Mornin’ Anybody know the league’s rationale behind letting Mike Nolan and Jack Del Rio only wear suits for 2 games this season?

Let’s hope they both go with the black cleats/white sock look that Lombardi made famous.[/quote]

Mike Nolan had requested through the league to wear a suit every game this year but the league turned him down, something to do with NFL licensed apparel. Nolan wanted to do it to honor his father if I remember correctly. As for Del Rio wearing a suit I have no idea why.

[quote comment=”23079″][quote comment=”23071″][quote comment=”23069″]And I especially like the R and L on the legs of that Gold Pants Club thingy. What the hell kind of purpose could that possibly serve?[/quote]

I think those are the recipient’s initials.[/quote]

That is a fantastic coincidence. Mind if I ask why you think that? (Other than the fact that it would be a totally inane thing to put left/right there.)[/quote]

Read the “caused quite a stir” article linked by Paul.

I posted this last night also but it was late…

I am at a college and we are looking to purchase new decals and bills for our batting helmets. Anyone know of a place online…

Thanks for all your help!

The ‘R, L’ thing is easy to explain.

It’s for Ohio State players…they need the directions.

[quote comment=”23087″][quote comment=”23079″][quote comment=”23071″][quote comment=”23069″]And I especially like the R and L on the legs of that Gold Pants Club thingy. What the hell kind of purpose could that possibly serve?[/quote]

I think those are the recipient’s initials.[/quote]

That is a fantastic coincidence. Mind if I ask why you think that? (Other than the fact that it would be a totally inane thing to put left/right there.)[/quote]

Read the “caused quite a stir” article linked by Paul.[/quote]
Apparently lawyer’s fees are mounting for Mr. Clarett.

[quote comment=”23094″]link at UC-San Diego (in blue).[/quote]

What in the world are they thinking? Is there any possible explanation for what that is supposed to look like!?!?

The link to the charm being sold had the inititals MC (Maurice Clarett, it seemed to imply) on it. I’d say they’re personalized.

And the marks on the QB’s helmet are just scuffs. Another mark of amatuer football is the lack of funds to repaint helmets.

This BAFL stuff is fascinating. Someone at ESPN needs to get on this story. Probably the best reality TV source material since ANTM. I’m picturing Two-A-Days meets Monty Python, and loving it. That’s what all brits are like, right?

Colorado State and Wyoming play each year for the “link“. I have a feeling that Boot trophies are quite common in football. The in-city rivalry in Iowa City, IA also plays each year for “The Boot”. Sorry no pics of that one, but i do believe that game is this weekend.

link describing the colors and decision making process on the link. The aricle is more interesting than I expected.

Some snippets:

“Unlike the Hawks’ former logo (a standard baseball with blue trim and a nostalgic script of the letter B), their new identity will primarily consist of the color green, Rahr said. He describes the color as a “City-of-Trees green.”

“The other colors that will make up the Hawks’ new look are what Rahr termed ‘downtown red, sunshine orange, and corn silk yellow.'”

Not sure if this was mentioned, but according to the link, the link minor league baseball club is unveiling their new logo brick by brick.

Via the Sun:

“The Atlanta Braves Class A affiliate announced Wednesday that it will unveil its freshened-up look via its Web site and a wall that will lose its bricks gradually over the coming weeks.”

According to the article, the new logo will also facilitate new uniforms for the team.

link for a German peewee football (American) team. Interesting, I think the NFL would have a hard time figuring out which team would be allowed to sue.

AAAAAH!!! Stop showing that damn picture of Antonio Bryant. Oh and that card of Leon Washington is amazing!

[quote comment=”23105″]This is not necessarily a uni-related comment, but it fits in connection with the “gold pants” thread. What on earth is the deal with Ohio State not wanting to acknowledge the second word in their name? (Third if you count their inane insistence of referring to “The” Ohio State University.) Two of their most cherished traditions — “script Ohio” and the gold pants — omit “State” altogether.

Honestly, this only bugs me because I’m a Michigan fan and am inclined to be bugged by dumb things that Ohio State does. (e.g. “Hang on Sloopy.”) But if I were an alum of Ohio University, I would be genuinely pissed by it. Any Ohio State grads/fans want to explain their eagerness to masquerade as the university in Athens rather than the university in Columbus?[/quote]

I was just going to post on this. The gold pants at the top of the page say Ohio 20 Mich 9. That looked a little weird to me and seems a little weird that they would put Ohio, not OSU or Ohio St. on there

Great article here on an un-retired, then re-retired number at Marquette.

did anyone see the baylor/gonzaga game last night on espn 2? baylor has to have the worst uniforms in college basketball. even worse they are wearing black when black is not even one of their colors. their colors are green and gold and they all of a sudden are wearing black. i don’t have a pic, but man are they bad.

[quote comment=”23068″]I was at the Panthers-Bucs game on Monday night, and whenever Deangelo Williams got tackled and we could see the bottom of his cleats, it certainly looked like they were lit up. While he was running, it looked normal, but the bottom of his cleats were definitely a very brilliant, electric blue.[/quote]

I was sitting in the end zone and saw the lights. Our entire section got a kick out of it. The lights appeared to be in the bottom of the soles of his shoes. Very Cool. We could see the lights when he ran.

Maybe the pants charms omit “state” to keep the second ‘O’ in Ohio in its precarious spot.

Uh oh, this is starting to get a bit link-ish.

[quote comment=”23112″]link for a German peewee football (American) team. Interesting, I think the NFL would have a hard time figuring out which team would be allowed to sue.[/quote]

the Tex-Red-skin-noles?

[quote comment=”23093″]The ‘R, L’ thing is easy to explain.

It’s for Ohio State players…they need the directions.[/quote]

They put it on their shoes too.

They put their pants on one leg at a time, just like Bruce Dickinson, but once his pants are on, he makes gold records, not gold pants.

I’m having a hard time finding an article to confirm it online, but I remember in the early 1990’s Karl Malone wore those silly “L.A. Lights” shoes that would light up on every step. L.A. Gear agreed to pay the fine, but he eventually stopped wearing them.

Can we please keep this about uniforms and not OSU vs. UM?

I am sure this has been linked to a number of message boards on both sides by now, and we’d like to keep the discussion on topic.

We don’t need a repeat of the Ron Santo incident.

[quote comment=”23008″][quote comment=”23005″]MetsFan:
you getting season’s tickets for the new stadium?[/quote]
Being that I live in Tucson, no. I make it to Phoenix to see them play the D-Backs and road trip to LA and SD. But i will make every effort to make it out for opening day ’09. How about you?[/quote]

Well, I’m a Yankees fan, so…hmmm.
Would love to see Yankees vs Mets at the new Yankee Stadium.
Season’s tickets? ha! I don’t have the income that Donald Trump or Regis take in, so probably not season’s.

Not really “uni” talk, but it made my link
Not too many people support this guy.

[quote comment=”23144″]Not really “uni” talk, but it made my link
Not too many people support this guy.[/quote]
Yes, please stick to “link” related posts please.

[quote comment=”23146″][quote comment=”23143″][quote comment=”23132″]>On a larger scale, defeating Michigan is a state >pride sort of thing. Why not have the state name >instead of an acronym?

So when the marching band spells out “Ohio” instead of “Ohio State” — which, after all, they do at all games, not just against Michigan — your explanation is that they are paying tribute to the state of Ohio rather than Ohio State University?[/quote]

How many members do you want this band to have? Why not have them spell out “Ohio State University Buckeyes?” There’s a very limited amount of letters that one band can spell out.

Unless there is some very offended Bobcats out there somewhere I don’t see the big deal.[/quote]

I’m not sure “offended” is the word. Ohio State is by far the largest institution in Ohio, and it certainly has more exposure publicly because of its athletic programs. But it not THE (as in only) State University in Ohio, as their fans and players assert to the disrespect of at least 20 other public universities in the State including the University of Ohio, which is older. The insinuation that it is, made every single time one of their football alumni announces that they went to THE Ohio State University is obnoxious.[/quote]

They aren’t saying they are the only university in Ohio. It’s a cocky, arrogance thing that every athlete has. They say “THE Ohio State University” like “yea, there are others, but this is THE Ohio state university that matters.” I’m sure there are plenty of other schools that do a similar cocky gesture.

But, this still doesn’t explain the objection to the omitting of the “State.”

[quote comment=”23149″][quote comment=”23146″][quote comment=”23143″][quote comment=”23132″]>On a larger scale, defeating Michigan is a state >pride sort of thing. Why not have the state name >instead of an acronym?

So when the marching band spells out “Ohio” instead of “Ohio State” — which, after all, they do at all games, not just against Michigan — your explanation is that they are paying tribute to the state of Ohio rather than Ohio State University?[/quote]

How many members do you want this band to have? Why not have them spell out “Ohio State University Buckeyes?” There’s a very limited amount of letters that one band can spell out.

Unless there is some very offended Bobcats out there somewhere I don’t see the big deal.[/quote]

I’m not sure “offended” is the word. Ohio State is by far the largest institution in Ohio, and it certainly has more exposure publicly because of its athletic programs. But it not THE (as in only) State University in Ohio, as their fans and players assert to the disrespect of at least 20 other public universities in the State including the University of Ohio, which is older. The insinuation that it is, made every single time one of their football alumni announces that they went to THE Ohio State University is obnoxious.[/quote]

They aren’t saying they are the only university in Ohio. It’s a cocky, arrogance thing that every athlete has. They say “THE Ohio State University” like “yea, there are others, but this is THE Ohio state university that matters.” I’m sure there are plenty of other schools that do a similar cocky gesture.

But, this still doesn’t explain the objection to the omitting of the “State.”[/quote]

Umm…. the title “THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY” is the universities actual title. No, I don’t like them referring to themselves as Ohio, but to say that it is just being cocky by saying “THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY” is wrong. That phrase is the name of the school just like Michigan is “University of Michigan.”

the university of california, berkeley’s (“Cal”) marching band spells out ‘California’ in script from endzone to endzone, which i find quite impressive.

[quote comment=”23149″][quote comment=”23146″][quote comment=”23143″][quote comment=”23132″]>On a larger scale, defeating Michigan is a state >pride sort of thing. Why not have the state name >instead of an acronym?

So when the marching band spells out “Ohio” instead of “Ohio State” — which, after all, they do at all games, not just against Michigan — your explanation is that they are paying tribute to the state of Ohio rather than Ohio State University?[/quote]

How many members do you want this band to have? Why not have them spell out “Ohio State University Buckeyes?” There’s a very limited amount of letters that one band can spell out.

Unless there is some very offended Bobcats out there somewhere I don’t see the big deal.[/quote]

I’m not sure “offended” is the word. Ohio State is by far the largest institution in Ohio, and it certainly has more exposure publicly because of its athletic programs. But it not THE (as in only) State University in Ohio, as their fans and players assert to the disrespect of at least 20 other public universities in the State including the University of Ohio, which is older. The insinuation that it is, made every single time one of their football alumni announces that they went to THE Ohio State University is obnoxious.[/quote]

They aren’t saying they are the only university in Ohio. It’s a cocky, arrogance thing that every athlete has. They say “THE Ohio State University” like “yea, there are others, but this is THE Ohio state university that matters.” I’m sure there are plenty of other schools that do a similar cocky gesture.

But, this still doesn’t explain the objection to the omitting of the “State.”[/quote]

The omission of State is part and parcel of the THE Ohio State University quandary. It is two parts of the same “cocky gesture” indicating that Ohio State is “the [only] school that matters”.
For the record I think it is also lame and arrogant when alumni of the Miami (Florida) football program refer to themselves as “the U”. I think that the “THE” thing is the same type of gesture, but I think it’s really lame because of who is it is directed at. Seriously, Ohio Univ.? Akron? Bowling Green (State University, for the record)? Cincinnati? What’s the deal? Which Ohio state university are they afraid they are being confused with? Do they really need to emphasize that they are better than these teams? Or does it just make them look cocky, like somebody from the U.

On “Ohio” vice “OSU”: as an alum of Texas A&M, I’m well acquainted with the complex that some people have about uniforms or logos that display a name other than the official title of the university. A&M’s teams are consistently referred to as the “Texas Aggies” by people familiar with the institution. The baseball team, in fact, has in past years worn link reading “Texas Aggies” (no “A&M”), and the link at link used to be painted as such. In recent years (since the appointment of Bill Byrne as AD) there has been a shift towards increased usage of “Texas A&M” on uniforms and logos, probably in an effort to eliminate confusion and create stronger associations for marketing and merchandising.

All of this by way of saying that to most Aggies, there’s no reason that the term “Texas Aggies” would be confusing. A&M doesn’t use this term to steal the University of Texas’ thunder (though it amuses me that “Texas Aggies” burns them up so much) or to intentionally create confusion. There used to be Oklahoma Aggies (Oklahoma A&M, now Oklahoma State), New Mexico Aggies, and Utah Aggies. The Texas Aggies were in College Station and attended Texas A&M. They were the agricultural, engineering, working-man’s alternative to the effete, white-collar, liberal education one received in Austin.

In any event, Ohio State is clearly the flagship university of the state, even if there IS an Ohio University. It’s larger and much more well-respected nationwide, both athletically and academically. It seems clear that they’re Ohio’s football team in much the same way that LSU is Louisiana’s (not ULa-Lafayette or ULa-Monroe). So why are we surprised that they would claim to represent the entire state?

[quote comment=”23159″]On “Ohio” vice “OSU”: as an alum of Texas A&M, I’m well acquainted with the complex that some people have about uniforms or logos that display a name other than the official title of the university. A&M’s teams are consistently referred to as the “Texas Aggies” by people familiar with the institution. The baseball team, in fact, has in past years worn link reading “Texas Aggies” (no “A&M”), and the link at link used to be painted as such. In recent years (since the appointment of Bill Byrne as AD) there has been a shift towards increased usage of “Texas A&M” on uniforms and logos, probably in an effort to eliminate confusion and create stronger associations for marketing and merchandising.

All of this by way of saying that to most Aggies, there’s no reason that the term “Texas Aggies” would be confusing. A&M doesn’t use this term to steal the University of Texas’ thunder (though it amuses me that “Texas Aggies” burns them up so much) or to intentionally create confusion. There used to be Oklahoma Aggies (Oklahoma A&M, now Oklahoma State), New Mexico Aggies, and Utah Aggies. The Texas Aggies were in College Station and attended Texas A&M. They were the agricultural, engineering, working-man’s alternative to the effete, white-collar, liberal education one received in Austin.

In any event, Ohio State is clearly the flagship university of the state, even if there IS an Ohio University. It’s larger and much more well-respected nationwide, both athletically and academically. It seems clear that they’re Ohio’s football team in much the same way that LSU is Louisiana’s (not ULa-Lafayette or ULa-Monroe). So why are we surprised that they would claim to represent the entire state?[/quote]

1] Because there are about 10 other schools playing division one college football in Ohio. Theses are not small schools either. Cincinnati would be one of the larger schools in the Big Ten. Most of the MAC schools have enrolments over 12-15 thousand, some have more than 20 thousand.

2] Many people would dispute Ohio State’s academic reputation. I’m not here, I’m just saying many people would. I’m sure a Michigan fan will jump in for me here.

3] As Texas Aggie (which do you prefer Texas Aggies or Texas A&M) I would think that you would be more sympathetic to my point of view, what with the Univeristy of Texas running around. At least they don’t refer to themselves as THE University of Texas.

Do you think that allowing Del Rio and Nolan wear suits signals that Reebok (er, Adidas) and the NFL have finally decided to conquer the last area of clothing they don’t have a stake in – business attire?

Think about it. Lapel pins of your favorite team. Striped or logo-patterned ties to wear to the office to support your team. Sportcoats with a team patch. Sweaters and sweater-vests with the team logo, all perfect for supporting your NFL team in the work week leading up to the big game.

They’ve already got the weekend-wear covered – polos, sweatshirts, tshirts, jackets. They’ve got the jerseys and hats, too. For teams with traditional color schemes (Bears, Niners, Cowboys, Patriots, Steelers, Browns, Redskins, Colts, Chiefs, Broncos, etc.), a striped tie with the team colors and a small Reebok logo at the bottom would sell like hotcakes for $35-45 a pop. It’s the perfect way for the white collar crowd to support the team Monday thru Friday.

[quote comment=”23161″][quote comment=”23159″]On “Ohio” vice “OSU”: as an alum of Texas A&M, I’m well acquainted with the complex that some people have about uniforms or logos that display a name other than the official title of the university. A&M’s teams are consistently referred to as the “Texas Aggies” by people familiar with the institution. The baseball team, in fact, has in past years worn link reading “Texas Aggies” (no “A&M”), and the link at link used to be painted as such. In recent years (since the appointment of Bill Byrne as AD) there has been a shift towards increased usage of “Texas A&M” on uniforms and logos, probably in an effort to eliminate confusion and create stronger associations for marketing and merchandising.

All of this by way of saying that to most Aggies, there’s no reason that the term “Texas Aggies” would be confusing. A&M doesn’t use this term to steal the University of Texas’ thunder (though it amuses me that “Texas Aggies” burns them up so much) or to intentionally create confusion. There used to be Oklahoma Aggies (Oklahoma A&M, now Oklahoma State), New Mexico Aggies, and Utah Aggies. The Texas Aggies were in College Station and attended Texas A&M. They were the agricultural, engineering, working-man’s alternative to the effete, white-collar, liberal education one received in Austin.

In any event, Ohio State is clearly the flagship university of the state, even if there IS an Ohio University. It’s larger and much more well-respected nationwide, both athletically and academically. It seems clear that they’re Ohio’s football team in much the same way that LSU is Louisiana’s (not ULa-Lafayette or ULa-Monroe). So why are we surprised that they would claim to represent the entire state?[/quote]

1] Because there are about 10 other schools playing division one college football in Ohio. Theses are not small schools either. Cincinnati would be one of the larger schools in the Big Ten. Most of the MAC schools have enrolments over 12-15 thousand, some have more than 20 thousand.

2] Many people would dispute Ohio State’s academic reputation. I’m not here, I’m just saying many people would. I’m sure a Michigan fan will jump in for me here.

3] As Texas Aggie (which do you prefer Texas Aggies or Texas A&M) I would think that you would be more sympathetic to my point of view, what with the Univeristy of Texas running around. At least they don’t refer to themselves as THE University of Texas.[/quote]

One difference is that link is the university’s name. It’s not Ohio State University. Gosh, when will you people understand. THINK!! It’s not that hard.

I read an interesting comment yesterday (I forget where) regarding NFL players saying where they went to school during introductions. The person said they thought the player shouldn’t be allowed to say “The Ohio State University” or “University of Michigan” if they had not graduated from that school.

The person equated it with putting a school on a resume’, and that surely anyone who did that, but did not graduate from the school would face criticism or worse. He suggested that only the highest level of school completed be announced on TV. I had never thought about it before, but it does make sense.

[quote comment=”23152″]

This is uniform related. It’s about soccer though (yawn).[/quote]That link gives a far-from-comprehensive list of some teams with alcohol sponsorships on their shirts. Here are some images.

link (Scotland) — Carling
link (Scotland) — Carling
link (England) — Carlsberg
link (England) — Chang
link (Poland) — Tyskie
link (Germany) — Krombacher [Interestingly, this photo shows the players safety-pinning the back of their shirts prior to posing for pictures]

I’m just watching the Panthers Bucs game I DVR’d, I don’t think Williams is wearing LEDS, his soles are just ultra-shiny, and thus reflect the lights in the stadium

[quote comment=”23170″][quote comment=”23161″]
1] Because there are about 10 other schools playing division one college football in Ohio. Theses are not small schools either. Cincinnati would be one of the larger schools in the Big Ten. Most of the MAC schools have enrolments over 12-15 thousand, some have more than 20 thousand.quote]

Cincy is in the Big EAST
a true football powerhouse conference.

GO RUTGERS(btw I actually like their red on red look)[/quote]

I am aware Cincinnati is in the Big East, my point is that if they were in the Big Ten, like Ohio State, they would be one of the larger schools in it.

[quote comment=”23176″][quote comment=”23167″][quote comment=”23161″][quote comment=”23159″]On “Ohio” vice “OSU”: as an alum of Texas A&M, I’m well acquainted with the complex that some people have about uniforms or logos that display a name other than the official title of the university. A&M’s teams are consistently referred to as the “Texas Aggies” by people familiar with the institution. The baseball team, in fact, has in past years worn link reading “Texas Aggies” (no “A&M”), and the link at link used to be painted as such. In recent years (since the appointment of Bill Byrne as AD) there has been a shift towards increased usage of “Texas A&M” on uniforms and logos, probably in an effort to eliminate confusion and create stronger associations for marketing and merchandising.

All of this by way of saying that to most Aggies, there’s no reason that the term “Texas Aggies” would be confusing. A&M doesn’t use this term to steal the University of Texas’ thunder (though it amuses me that “Texas Aggies” burns them up so much) or to intentionally create confusion. There used to be Oklahoma Aggies (Oklahoma A&M, now Oklahoma State), New Mexico Aggies, and Utah Aggies. The Texas Aggies were in College Station and attended Texas A&M. They were the agricultural, engineering, working-man’s alternative to the effete, white-collar, liberal education one received in Austin.

In any event, Ohio State is clearly the flagship university of the state, even if there IS an Ohio University. It’s larger and much more well-respected nationwide, both athletically and academically. It seems clear that they’re Ohio’s football team in much the same way that LSU is Louisiana’s (not ULa-Lafayette or ULa-Monroe). So why are we surprised that they would claim to represent the entire state?[/quote]

1] Because there are about 10 other schools playing division one college football in Ohio. Theses are not small schools either. Cincinnati would be one of the larger schools in the Big Ten. Most of the MAC schools have enrolments over 12-15 thousand, some have more than 20 thousand.

2] Many people would dispute Ohio State’s academic reputation. I’m not here, I’m just saying many people would. I’m sure a Michigan fan will jump in for me here.

3] As Texas Aggie (which do you prefer Texas Aggies or Texas A&M) I would think that you would be more sympathetic to my point of view, what with the Univeristy of Texas running around. At least they don’t refer to themselves as THE University of Texas.[/quote]

One difference is that link is the university’s name. It’s not Ohio State University. Gosh, when will you people understand. THINK!! It’s not that hard.[/quote]

If you think that when Santino Holmes gets introduced on TV and says THE (you simply cannot dispute the emphasis they place on that word) Ohio State University, his concern is only about making it absolutly clear which college he attended, than you are absolutely right. I think that’s nonsense of course, but you are entitled to that opinion.[/quote]

It doesn’t matter what the emphasis is when that is the name of the school they go to. What am I missing here?

[quote comment=”23178″][quote comment=”23163″]4] How would you feel if UT made the claim to represent the ENTIRE state of Texas? I think that there might actually be blood shead over that.[/quote]I hate to drag this even further away from uniforms, but I suppose this — as a branding concern — is peripherally related: UT actually DID this for a long time, and many of their alums probably still do. In fact, they ran an ad campaign (on TV and elsewhere) with the tagline “We’re Texas!” You don’t want to get me going on all that. (Incidentally, you may or may not have heard Aggies refer to UT as “t.u.” This is alternatingly explained as “the university” or “texas university,” but this form is intended to show disdain for that institution’s claim to represent the entire state. It’s also instructive to remember that Texas A&M’s student body is very, VERY Texan — probably somewhere in the high 90s percent-wise.)

I agree with thos who have maede the point about OSU’s official name — it IS “The Ohio State University.” When I hear guys emphasize the “The,” I never thought of it as a suggestion that OSU is “THE, sole, number 1, representative university in Ohio.” And even if that is what they’re saying, is there any reason to dispute this when you’re considering the perspective of intercollegiate athletes?

I guess when it comes down to it on all this, I could understand your consternation if OSU people were saying “THE Ohio university.” But they’re not. They’re saying “The Ohio State University,” which also happens to be the name of the institution.

As far as the A&M stuff goes, I liked “Texas Aggies” in the endzones and on the baseball jerseys, and I’d really like to see it on the basketball unis as well. It’s traditional, it’s distinctive, and it flows better — it actually sounds weird to me every time I hear a national television commentator refer to the “Texas A&M Aggies.” To me, the university is Texas A&M and the individuals are Texas Aggies. I have no problem with the former on the unis, but would prefer the latter.[/quote]

Look, Look, Chris Mewett is using his brain!!! Way to go man.

[quote comment=”23175″]I’m just watching the Panthers Bucs game I DVR’d, I don’t think Williams is wearing LEDS, his soles are just ultra-shiny, and thus reflect the lights in the stadium[/quote]
Further to that here’s a showing the shinyness.

[quote comment=”23175″]I’m just watching the Panthers Bucs game I DVR’d, I don’t think Williams is wearing LEDS, his soles are just ultra-shiny, and thus reflect the lights in the stadium[/quote]

Since my info on DeAngelo Williams and his cleats was glossed over, this is from his blog:
I also have to tell all the Memphis fans about the makeup of my shoes. I had some shoes made from Nike. For those of you who don’t know, you can’t have anything that’s not team issued or something from another team (college or pro). So what do i do? I tell the guy who built my shoes I want a metalic blue bottom. The guy asked, “why?” I quickly replied that its for the people back home in Memphis, and that he wouldn’t understand. See there is a creed we live by in Memphis: “I’m Tiger blue, I’m Tiger breed, when I die I will be a Tiger fan dead!”…and he still did not understand. I write two words on the bottom of my shoes before I play now! Those two words are PATIENCE and BELIEVE, for the simple reason of how much adversity we were hit with but still prevailed. That is how big my Tiger heart is, how big is yours? GO TIGERS

It doesn’t matter what the emphasis is when that is the name of the school they go to. What am I missing here?

You’re missing the fact that emphasis in spoken language can convey a message beyond the printed words. For instance, if Ohio State did make a consistent point (as many of us are arguing they should do) of saying they are “Ohio State” rather than “Ohio,” then if their football alumni were to appear on TV and say “I’m from The Ohio STATE University,” I for one would have no objection. The message conveyed is, “I went to Ohio State and not Ohio U., thank you very much.” The message conveyed by “I’m from THE Ohio State University” is “I went to the only state university in Ohio that matters.”

So in other words, in the first example only Ohio U. is dissed. In the second, Ohio U. *and* all the other state universities in Ohio are dissed.

Incidentally, every so often there are discussions about which institution — Ohio State, Oregon State and Oklahoma State — “deserves” to use the “OSU” abbreviation. If Ohio State and its fans/alumni are so enamored of “The Ohio State University,” then maybe they should call themselves “TOSU” for short and take themselves out of that discussion. (Or, since they like to emphasize the definite article, they could call themselves “The OSU.”) It could even be turned into a logo to be placed on uniforms and such. (See, I brought it back to uniforms again!)

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Interesting footnote to that. I was at the Celtic -DC United game this year where they had the Coors Light logo on their shirts. We saw them from a distance and thought ‘it sure looks like it says Coors Light, but why would they have that?’ Interesting that they’d tailor their advertising to the local market.[/quote]Carling is owned/brewed by Molson Coors Brewing Company (as, obviously, is Coors Light) and not sold in the US. Considering that on the preseason tours, the shirts usually have no player names and are simply sequentially numbered, I guess it shouldn’t be surprising that they could affix a temporary sponsorship logo. It DOES seem like good foresight, though, to think about the fact that the brand typically advertised on the shirts isn’t sold in the place where the games are being played. Good catch, anyway. Here’s a link.

Regarding Paul’s main page article:

– How can Rutgers, with their fantastic football unis, screw things up so horribly with link?

– It’s unfortunate that Indiana State moved away from the link design. Great stuff.

– Central Michigan’s link strike me as odd; in my experience, a two-level word mark like that is arched on top and straight on the bottom. These have link. I like the circular feel this creates. Has it been done before?

For the record, many Bucknuts refer to their university as tOSU on message boards. And the majority of attendees at Ohio U. are Ohio residents, and therefore Buckeye fans. There isn’t the disconnect between the MAC schools (OU, BGSU, MU, UT, KSU, etc.) Cincinnati, Dayton, Cleveland State, etc. being against Ohio State because they rarely play against Ohio State in football and basketball.

[quote comment=”23197″]- How can Rutgers, with their fantastic football unis, screw things up so horribly with link?
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Here’s the Rutgers uni link. Take an Aleve or five before clicking.

[quote comment=”23196″]The THE in THE Ohio State University is actually from 1878 when the school’s named changed from Ohio A&M to The Ohio State University. It did not become THE Ohio State University until the tenure of University President E. Gordon Gee. When Gee arrived in the 1990’s, OSU was losing funding, students, and credibility. He began an $85 million campaign to improve the school and its reputation. Along with the money came an emphasis on the The in The Ohio State University. By saying you were from THE Ohio State University you showed that you were proud to be a Buckeye. It was not meant as a slap in the face of other schools in the Buckeye state, just a morale booster for those in Columbus. This turnaround has continued both in the classrooms and on the athletic fields and Buckeyes everywhere are not being cocky by saying THE Ohio State University, they’re just being true to their school.[/quote]

Way to go Jason!!

In rugby there is a semi-traditiion of “Shooting the Boot” after a good match (or bad).

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It’s not dissing the other schools as has been noted here a little bit after your post. The point is that this is the Universiy’s name so it is not a problem with a player saying “THE Ohio State University” nor will it ever be. It’s placing pride in the university they attended or graduated from and doesn’t disrespect any of the other universities from Ohio. Those players are not saying that it is the only university in Ohio but are saying the name of the University they attendeth with pride. That is perfectly fine.

You have to acknowledge, though, that the emphasis on THE can be interpreted as a diss (or, alternatively, in crossing the line between college pride and arrogance) even if it’s not delivered that way. As a Michigan fan, I’m always going to be annoyed by this little habit of OSU fans and alumni anyway, whether or not they are trying to diss anyone, so I’m hardly an impartial observer. But I’m also not the only one posting on this (admittedly not terribly uni-related) topic to make the same interpretation. I can’t imagine that all of them are Michigan fans who just haven’t admitted their loyalties.

[quote comment=”23201″][quote comment=”23197″]- How can Rutgers, with their fantastic football unis, screw things up so horribly with link?
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Here’s the Rutgers uni link. Take an Aleve or five before clicking.[/quote]
i actually like these unis, b/c white anrd red is a nice combination as long as it doesnt go to oregon proportions

[quote comment=”23207″]It’s not dissing the other schools as has been noted here a little bit after your post. The point is that this is the Universiy’s name so it is not a problem with a player saying “THE Ohio State University” nor will it ever be. It’s placing pride in the university they attended or graduated from and doesn’t disrespect any of the other universities from Ohio. Those players are not saying that it is the only university in Ohio but are saying the name of the University they attendeth with pride. That is perfectly fine.

You have to acknowledge, though, that the emphasis on THE can be interpreted as a diss (or, alternatively, in crossing the line between college pride and arrogance) even if it’s not delivered that way. As a Michigan fan, I’m always going to be annoyed by this little habit of OSU fans and alumni anyway, whether or not they are trying to diss anyone, so I’m hardly an impartial observer. But I’m also not the only one posting on this (admittedly not terribly uni-related) topic to make the same interpretation. I can’t imagine that all of them are Michigan fans who just haven’t admitted their loyalties.[/quote]

and this is a lot better than miami saying “the U” that is ignorance because there is hundreds of “U’s” in the country. that is a slap in the face, THE ohio state university is the only THE ohio state university because that is the actual name of it

oregon *ugliness* proportions sorry

[quote comment=”23213″]as far as miami goes and what they refer to themselves as, my philosophy on that school is as follows:

You can’t spell THUG without the U!

this philosophy was notarized last night when i finally completed reading the ray lewis article in SI.[/quote]

krvanch, that and maybe that’s all the education they have and that’s all they know how to spell and read.

anyone in for an end of the year awards ceremony?
The UNI’s? The Paulie’s? The Ekky’s? (name can be figured out later)

was thinking of categories

Blog topic of the year
Most overrated/overstated topic
Most underrated/understated topic
Uni blunder of the year
Uni of the year
The “thats been posted many times already” award (this should automatically go to kenny rogers bp hat)

just thinking of what could be put together

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Regarding Paul’s main page article:

– It’s unfortunate that Indiana State moved away from the link design. Great stuff.

link

[quote comment=”23218″]link[/quote]

i think those are the spandex biker shorts UNDER his unifrom, not the actual uni. look at where the red stripe is on his left leg compared to the right.

[quote comment=”23219″][quote comment=”23218″]link[/quote]

Whoops…those are actually his compression shorts

And for some reason linkwere one of my favorite college basketball unis…too bad they’re gone now[/quote]
both teams in the Lamar pic are refreshingly logo-free (with the exception of the UA).

[quote comment=”23222″]Regarding Paul’s main page article:

– It’s unfortunate that Indiana State moved away from the link design. Great stuff.

link[/quote]
John Stockton is retired, and that is a good thing. But I love the sock stripes.

[quote comment=”23216″]anyone in for an end of the year awards ceremony?
The UNI’s? The Paulie’s? The Ekky’s? (name can be figured out later)

was thinking of categories

Blog topic of the year
Most overrated/overstated topic
Most underrated/understated topic
Uni blunder of the year
Uni of the year
The “thats been posted many times already” award (this should automatically go to kenny rogers bp hat)

just thinking of what could be put together[/quote]

A couple more:

Worst uni
Most improved uni
Best throwback/retro uni
Best anniversary/memorial/other patch
Best typography

This isn’t a clothing related trophy either, but UAB and Memphis play for a trophy that is a bronze rack of ribs. How awesome is that.

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[quote comment=”23208″]
MLS team Real Salt Lake look to be the first MLS team to obtain a sponsor to place on the front of their kits, instead of the team name. News should be official tomorrow.[/quote]

Not unless you count that the MetroStars became the Red Bulls and their logo is the Red Bull drink logo….

[quote comment=”23216″]anyone in for an end of the year awards ceremony?
The UNI’s? The Paulie’s? The Ekky’s? (name can be figured out later)

was thinking of categories

Blog topic of the year
Most overrated/overstated topic
Most underrated/understated topic
Uni blunder of the year
Uni of the year
The “thats been posted many times already” award (this should automatically go to kenny rogers bp hat)

just thinking of what could be put together
[/quote]

I fully endorse this idea. I do this on a blog of my own where I had out awards based upon votes from the people that read my blog. It’s a lot of fun.

So yes… let’s get a Uni Watch Awards Night going. :o)

Apparently they took away spelling class at the link… check out the error.

I like how the English team (“the Olympics”, the second linked image) can’t afford their own set of unis or helmet decals, but that one back has a brand new Revolution helmet.

The Rangers and Astros play for the Silver Boot in a recently fabricated “tradition.”

[quote comment=”23247″]The Rangers and Astros play for the Silver Boot in a recently fabricated “tradition.”[/quote]

The series is actually on it’s second boot trophy. The first trophy had a lot of glass in it’s construction. The Astros, while traveling with it two years ago accidentally broke it and presented it to the Rangers as such. I believe now the new trophy has much less glass in it.

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Today is probably the most off-topic day this site has seen in a while.[/quote]

There is one topic that trumps all other topics this week. It’s THE topic.[/quote]

Andy, that was the perfect response. Thanks for the laugh over a much-debated topic. My quick hits:

Teebz, what’s your website? Is it sports-related?

I agree with Dave about The Ohio State University. I highly doubt the former players are giving props to the full name rather than being cocky. The reason it’s cocky, dchis, is because if they were simply stating the name, the natural inflection would be The Ohio State University, rather than The OSU. It annoys the hell out of me, just as it annoys me when a player says he’s from The U. I’m not a Mee-chigan fan, either, so it’s not a biased thing.

Then again, I have wondered for years why they say where they went to school at all. NBA players don’t do that, nor do MLB players.

todd k., I like your idea about uni awards. The color never to be found anywhere near sports: pink. That’s my contribution.

Kenny, I like the picture of Bryant’s bare ass. He has a nice ass.

Did you guys notice Tessa’s post from a couple nights ago that St. Paul is the patron saint of clothing? How apropos for this board. Paul, the capital of MN is St. Paul, as you undoubtably know. This is kismet—you have to come here!

Pete B. and Chris, thanks yor the info and pic on Williams’ blue shoes. I like. I also like the collared shirts. I hope the No Fun League doesn’t put the kibosh on either.

Finally, I am still not totally for the suit move in the NFL, but it’s better than the angry homeless man look. I still advocate slacks and a nice shirt, but I think I’m fighting a lost cause.

I’m out.

[quote comment=”23253″][quote comment=”23243″][quote comment=”23241″]

Then again, I have wondered for years why they say where they went to school at all. NBA players don’t do that, nor do MLB players. /quote]

In the NBA, the PA announcers, when doing the starting lineups, usually announce where player went to school. If that player (like Kobe) did not attend college, the PA announcer will often say the name of his high school instead.

You are correct about baseball though, you hardly ever hear a player’s alma mater mentioned unless it is done so by the play by play or color guys.

[quote comment=”23254″]

oh, and im gonna have to see if sue bird, sienna miller, keira knightley or natalie portman is available for that night… im not showing up at the ekky’s without a date! i think sue would appreciate it more though, being an athlete an all, but she should be leaving for russia soon… damn…hmm, wonder what will be in the gift bag we get?[/quote]

the ekkys….I REALLY like that. Hey, teebz, how’s it going on my Christmas present? link could double as my date for the Ekkys—or the guy behind him. I like Hines Ward, too. He’s half Korean.

[quote comment=”23259″][quote comment=”23256″]

In the NBA, the PA announcers, when doing the starting lineups, usually announce where player went to school. If that player (like Kobe) did not attend college, the PA announcer will often say the name of his high school instead.

You are correct about baseball though, you hardly ever hear a player’s alma mater mentioned unless it is done so by the play by play or color guys.[/quote]

Really? I’ve never been to a NBA game live, so I didn’t know that. Huh. Thanks for updating me. I still see no need to know that information, however.

Oh, Matthew S., good post last night about product endorsement versus logo creep. I couldn’t have said it better myself.[/quote]

I don’t think all arena PA announcers do it, but next time your watching a local broadcast of a basketball team (as opposed to ESPN or TNT), they might show that part. They do this at Rockets games. This is how I know that Scottie Pippen went to the University of Central Arkansas.

Thanks Minna. It was so late when I wrote it that I didn’t think anyone would see it. I figured my insomnia might as well be put to good use.

[quote comment=”23260″][quote comment=”23259″]

Really? I’ve never been to a NBA game live, so I didn’t know that. Huh. Thanks for updating me. I still see no need to know that information, however.

Oh, Matthew S., good post last night about product endorsement versus logo creep. I couldn’t have said it better myself.[/quote]

I don’t think all arena PA announcers do it, but next time your watching a local broadcast of a basketball team (as opposed to ESPN or TNT), they might show that part. They do this at Rockets games. This is how I know that Scottie Pippen went to the University of Central Arkansas.

Thanks Minna. It was so late when I wrote it that I didn’t think anyone would see it. I figured my insomnia might as well be put to good use.[/quote]

See, that’s my problem. I turn the game on at the last possible minute before tip-off. Next time, I’ll have to turn it on earlier and see what high school Garnett attended.

The thing I liked about your post, Matthew, is that you were informative and articulate about a somewhat heated subjectwithout being inflammatory. Kudos to you.

Oh, and I found that first pic you posted. The logo creep is terrifying, but the guy himself is kind of creepy, so that might have added to my distress.

Reading that article about the NBA rules from the NY paper…
Players are not allowed to sway during the national anthem???

Us Puckheads should be glad that these rules are not in the NHL, 90% of the players would be fined!

[quote comment=”23157″][quote comment=”23149″][quote comment=”23146″][quote comment=”23143″][quote comment=”23132″]>On a larger scale, defeating Michigan is a state >pride sort of thing. Why not have the state name >instead of an acronym?

So when the marching band spells out “Ohio” instead of “Ohio State” — which, after all, they do at all games, not just against Michigan — your explanation is that they are paying tribute to the state of Ohio rather than Ohio State University?[/quote]

How many members do you want this band to have? Why not have them spell out “Ohio State University Buckeyes?” There’s a very limited amount of letters that one band can spell out.

Unless there is some very offended Bobcats out there somewhere I don’t see the big deal.[/quote]

I’m not sure “offended” is the word. Ohio State is by far the largest institution in Ohio, and it certainly has more exposure publicly because of its athletic programs. But it not THE (as in only) State University in Ohio, as their fans and players assert to the disrespect of at least 20 other public universities in the State including the University of Ohio, which is older. The insinuation that it is, made every single time one of their football alumni announces that they went to THE Ohio State University is obnoxious.[/quote]

They aren’t saying they are the only university in Ohio. It’s a cocky, arrogance thing that every athlete has. They say “THE Ohio State University” like “yea, there are others, but this is THE Ohio state university that matters.” I’m sure there are plenty of other schools that do a similar cocky gesture.

But, this still doesn’t explain the objection to the omitting of the “State.”[/quote]

The omission of State is part and parcel of the THE Ohio State University quandary. It is two parts of the same “cocky gesture” indicating that Ohio State is “the [only] school that matters”.
For the record I think it is also lame and arrogant when alumni of the Miami (Florida) football program refer to themselves as “the U”. I think that the “THE” thing is the same type of gesture, but I think it’s really lame because of who is it is directed at. Seriously, Ohio Univ.? Akron? Bowling Green (State University, for the record)? Cincinnati? What’s the deal? Which Ohio state university are they afraid they are being confused with? Do they really need to emphasize that they are better than these teams?

Or does it just make them look cocky, like somebody from the U.[/quote]

The phrase “the U” and the gesture that goes with it are used to pay homage to the Hurricanes’ logo, which happens to be a link

[quote comment=”23268″]Feng Shui[/quote]

Ahhhhhhhhh, I cut instead of copied

give me a sec to explain

[quote comment=”23271″]

If you work in cubicle world like I do you are probably in constant fear of someone catching you doing something that you shouldn’t (i.e. Uni watching). This is likely another cause of the bad grammar and spelling, I know it is for me. I hate this back to the world thing, whoever invented the cubicle should be shot and put through a meat grinder. I get the practicality but it totally goes against human nature. We like to see whats coming, not get stabbed in the back. Seriously, this is totally messing with my Feng Shui.[/quote]

Makes sense, Chad G. I hate having my back to a room—feels very exposed.

I was curious how you were going to work Feng Shui into a conversation about unis. When you just posted Feng Shui, I was going to respond, “gesundheit”, but then i thought better of it.

[quote comment=”23265″][quote comment=”23263″]

And the funny thing about those pictures is that all I had to do was google ‘Finnish Hockey League’ and those pictures came up. As annoying as logo creep can be here in the states, it is epidemic overseas.

Thanks again for your generous compliments. Even though I was writing at 2:30am Texas time, I was still able to have decent grammar and spelling. Yet when I’m at work in the middle of the day I have trouble with both. Go figure.

Mexican and South American soccer (er, futbol) leagues are also great mines for logo creep evidence.[/quote]

The thing is, most other countries’ leagues aren’t as rich as the major American leagues, which means more corporate sponsorship, and therefore, more logo creep. I don’t think we’re far-off from it here.

Interesting op-ed on stadium logo creep link.

By the way, Matthew, you wrote your post last night at 1:30 a.m. I know because I read it before I went to bed, and I retired at 2 a.m., MN time—which is the same as Texas time. Either way, it’s probably the fact that you were interested in what you were writing that made it easier to write than something for work.[/quote]

It was 1:30? I couldn’t remember the exact time as I was wrapped up in writing and finding the appropriate examples of atrocious logo creep. I think my grammar/spelling are better when typing comments at home rather than at work because at work I’m typing quickly lest, as Chad said, someone pass my cubicle and see that I’m not on a work related website.

And actually my job doesn’t involve much writing unfortunately, mostly number crunching. And Chad I agree, cubicles are soul crushing inventions.

An interesting question regarding logo creep overseas comes from the English Premiership: teams have nicknames (e.g. Arsenal Gunners, Bolton Wanderers, Liverpool Reds, Manchester United Red Devils, Chelsea Blues, West Ham U. Hammers…you get the idea), but to my knowledge these nicknames have never appeared on jerseys. In fact, some of these nicknames come come from a team’s uniform colors (e.g. Liverpool and Chelsea). So while in European hockey leagues uniforms are so splattered with sponsor logos that you can’t even tell what the team’s nickname is, EPL teams usually don’t have more than one or two sponsors on their jersey. This logo creep is far less egregious. So I guess the question is this: are there degrees of logo creep? Can some sponsor logos be considered acceptable? I would have said yes until Minna mentioned that our leagues on this side of the pond are probably heading the way of European leagues. So while I’m ok with a few small sponsor logos on EPL teams, I would never want to see this on any pro team here.

Not sure what prompted such a long post. Everyone feel free to pick my reasoning apart.

I haven’t read all of the previous posts, so I’m not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but In this week’s issue of SI, Rick Reilly’s column is entirely about logo creep. Pretty funny stuff.

[quote comment=”23273″]link #45 is wearing in the BAFL.[/quote]

that’s got to be a keeper jersey.

81 for pitt, who just laid that nasty block on the punt return, is clearly wearing a nike undershirt, complete with goofy sleeve design, when pitt is an adidas school.

[quote comment=”23280″]81 for pitt, who just laid that nasty block on the punt return, is clearly wearing a nike undershirt, complete with goofy sleeve design, when pitt is an adidas school.[/quote]

Was it the mismatched sleeves or the big blue swoosh that gave it away?!? you beat me to the comment! Kinder #81 isn’t the only one wearing that either, there was another player but I didn’t catch his number. Great play though

Just got back from the Lehigh-Michigan wrestling match, and it appears the Michigan coaches have blue polos with the same shoulder striping as the new basketball unis. This is the only picture I could find, but you get the idea of how it looks:

link

I really wish the Bruins would make their vintage jersey permanent:

link

[quote]

I always like it on MNF when the olayers say, (name,) THE Ohio State University.

=bg=
THE Univ of Cincinnati ’84[/quote]
FWIW, i always thought that THE Ohio State University was born from a lawsuit with Ohio University. I can’t find anything to confirm that, but maybe some savvy commUNIty member knows. I seem to remember that, as my brother and sister graduated from Ohio University and my wife graduated from THE Ohio State University.

MHF
THE University of Cincinnati, 2001 (little shout out to fellow bearcat BG there)

[quote comment=”23228″][quote comment=”23222″]Regarding Paul’s main page article:

– It’s unfortunate that Indiana State moved away from the link design. Great stuff.

link[/quote]
John Stockton is retired, and that is a good thing. But I love the sock stripes.[/quote]

As a student at ISU, it was disappointing to see the Sycamore leaf absent from the uniform. Also, there has been talk on campus how it would be cool to see the shape of Indiana being used as the “I” in Indiana State once again like in the days of Bird, but use the “Sycamore Blue” instead of the powder blue used before ISU was the “Sycamores.”

[quote comment=”23277″][quote] An interesting question regarding logo creep overseas comes from the English Premiership: teams have nicknames (e.g. Arsenal Gunners, Bolton Wanderers, Liverpool Reds, Manchester United Red Devils, Chelsea Blues, West Ham U. Hammers…you get the idea), but to my knowledge these nicknames have never appeared on jerseys. In fact, some of these nicknames come come from a team’s uniform colors (e.g. Liverpool and Chelsea). So while in European hockey leagues uniforms are so splattered with sponsor logos that you can’t even tell what the team’s nickname is, EPL teams usually don’t have more than one or two sponsors on their jersey. This logo creep is far less egregious. So I guess the question is this: are there degrees of logo creep? Can some sponsor logos be considered acceptable? I would have said yes until Minna mentioned that our leagues on this side of the pond are probably heading the way of European leagues. So while I’m ok with a few small sponsor logos on EPL teams, I would never want to see this on any pro team here.[/quote]

To answer your question needs more info. Some teams you mentioned are nicknames, not proper names, arsenal are not called arsenal gunners, but just arsenal, bolton wanderers are called just that, that is their correct name, actually their nickname is the terriers…i wont explain ;-)

Some nicknames are worth more than others. Nicknames like “The Gunners” for Arsenal for example are fairly unique, it refers to the very origins of the club hence the club crest has a gun on it.

Others like “reds” or “blues” as you say are purely dependent on the colours worn and as such actually change depending on the home and away unis.

A favourite colour for road unis is yellow, hence many visiting fans chant “Yellow, Yellow” in a monotonic manner as a chant, in that case you would not call them the blues or the reds, it is purely a function of the colour they are wearing on that day.

As for logo creep, clubs are allowed the following in the epl: a sponsor, a club crest and a uni manufacturer logo eg everton (my team) have Chang Beer as their main sponsor, a club crest and an Umbro logo as their uni manufacturer. Their nickname “the toffees” appears nowhere on the kit.

A common joke this side of the pond is that the lower down the leagues a club is, the more sponsors it is allowed, i.e. teams below the EPL are allowed separate sponsors for their shorts and even socks the lower down you go. Money is tight down there so more sponsorships are allowed.[/quote]
Well Said Matt, I was going to attempt to jump in to relay to the question, but i’m glad you did, instead. You are mostly spot on… except i’m going to flip on my pedantic cap and say that Bolton Wanderers are the Trotters, no? Being a Rovers follower, I should know that !!!!

[quote comment=”23253″]
Teebz, what’s your website? Is it sports-related?
[/quote]

Nope. Since hockey is the only real focus of my sports love, it’s got zero to do with sports. But my faithful readers seem to like it. And that’s all that matters. :o)

Here’s a late entry to Paul’s list of new college basketball uniforms. Virginia Tech has switched from the link that it has worn for the last few years to a link
link. I also noticed that the link
link are a recycling of link
link.

I don’t think the tops and shorts really match, but there is one thing that I really like: the link
link on the back nameplate matches the ‘VIRGINIA TECH’ VAL on the front (plus it looks good for players with longer surnames such as ‘Krabbendam’ and ‘Washington’).

[quote comment=”23300″]Sorry about the HTML snafu in my previous post (first-timer to the Comments board).
One more uni-related item of interest before going to bed. I have not followed the Premiership for very long, but I happened to stumble across this link today. In it, he makes a comment about “that silly season in the 1990s when Charlton decided to categorise their players alphabetically (eg. No.1, Stuart Balmer)”. Anyone know of other instances of assigning jersey numbers based on alphabetical order?[/quote]

Welcome, Kyle Oetman. This is really fascinating. I have no idea if any other team have done the alphabetical number thing, but I hope someone else comes up with something.

Don’t worry about making mistakes—we all do.

Also, I’d like to introduce myself, since I am a first tome poster also, but a long time fan of UniWatch and the blog. I am a senior at Central Michigan University, so if you’ve got CMU uni questions or even some MAC questions, I can help ya out…..and i hate purple.

link

Ok. Gotta do it. Gotta roll the numbers over. Welcome, Jason Axel. Thanks for the mini-history on Central Michigan. Gotta admit, I was wondering about the black unis—which I like except for the lettering—whin I didn’t see black in the logo.

The oxford phenomenon seen on certain Saints players seems to actually be the byproduct of a slight modification of “Under-Armor” mock turtlenecks.

Cutting the mock turtle below the chin will allow more room in the neck. However, it will also cause either side of the cut to fold down, resulting in a quasi-golf-shirt look.

Of course, I have no confirmation on this, but the sleeves on most of the “collared” players seem to be consistent with “Under-Armor”.