Light(weight) Sabres

The matching side panels on the Sabres sweater and trunks may very well be another “push” from Reebok to make the new form-fitting jerseys for next season tucked in the pants. With the sweater/jersey tucked in the pants, the side panels would be a lot more likely to match up.

BohdiBros beat me to it.. And Jackie Sherrill’s walk-on specal teamers i’m sure made for some wonderful errors..

The Texas A&M could have been the 12th man on the team. Each year, one walk-on is selected to play special teams, kick-off and punt coverage, and that player is considered the physical representation of the fans (the other 12th man) on the field.

I didn’t know they wore a special patch, but a quick glance at the Aggie roster shows no one wears the actual number 12.

The biggest problem with the Buffalo jerseys is the fact that the color scheme is stolen from a team with even uglier jerseys (Nashville). The should have left out the silver/gray color.

The other thing is the blatant better alternative of just creating a jersey that looked like the LaFontaine-era sweaters. You can use the darker blue and modern logo, but go back to the traditional template, a la the Islanders.

At my local high school’s football game this week, someone decided that logo creep would be motivational to the team: link.

Apparently it worked, since they dominated a highly-ranked opponent.

[quote comment=”9308″]The Texas A&M could have been the 12th man on the team. Each year, one walk-on is selected to play special teams, kick-off and punt coverage, and that player is considered the physical representation of the fans (the other 12th man) on the field.

I didn’t know they wore a special patch, but a quick glance at the Aggie roster shows no one wears the actual number 12.[/quote]

That was the jersey of the designated “12th Man”. The Texas A&M 12th Man tradition dates to 1922 when E. King Gill (an A&M student)was asked to come down from the stands and suit up for a game against Centre College. He did so and that willingness to enter the fray on behalf of the team has been tradition ever since. In the 80’s when Jackie Sherrill was coach he created an entire kickoff coverage team that was all walk-on students. This team covered all kickoffs at home games. During the Jackie Sherrill era they never allowed a runback for a TD. During RC Slocum’s tenure they did allow a runback and Slocum later changed the tradition from an entire kickoff team to one player in kickoff coverage. These are the only players that wear number 12.

Going back to Sunday’s open thread, are we sure the City of Hartford is holding onto the Whalers logo & insignia, just waiting for the NHL to return? Because if that was the case, wouldn’t it make sense for the city to sell licensed products, and show the league, “Hey, we’ve sold 50,000 jerseys and we don’t even have a team! We deserve a franchise.”

I say this because I’m sure I’ve read that the Hurricanes owner still has the rights to the Whalers logo, and shelved it, fearing more people would buy the green instead of the red and black.

Same way the TB Bucs owner wants everyone to buy the maroon and pewter, not the exquisite orange that we all love and miss so much.

[quote comment=”9318″]Going back to Sunday’s open thread, are we sure the City of Hartford is holding onto the Whalers logo & insignia, just waiting for the NHL to return? Because if that was the case, wouldn’t it make sense for the city to sell licensed products, and show the league, “Hey, we’ve sold 50,000 jerseys and we don’t even have a team! We deserve a franchise.”

I say this because I’m sure I’ve read that the Hurricanes owner still has the rights to the Whalers logo, and shelved it, fearing more people would buy the green instead of the red and black.
[/quote]

I think you’re right on this. When the NHL was rolling out all the throwbacks a few years ago, you couldn’t get any Whalers merch. And it was due to the ‘Canes trying to distance themselves from the existance of the Whalers.

[quote comment=”9302″]The matching side panels on the Sabres sweater and trunks may very well be another “push” from Reebok to make the new form-fitting jerseys for next season tucked in the pants. With the sweater/jersey tucked in the pants, the side panels would be a lot more likely to match up.[/quote]

Unfortunately i agree with you. But I can’t see it working. Ever try a slap shot, or make a glove save? The sweater moves… tucking it in would be highly restrictive..

Just my 2 cents.

[quote comment=”9324″][quote comment=”9302″]The matching side panels on the Sabres sweater and trunks may very well be another “push” from Reebok to make the new form-fitting jerseys for next season tucked in the pants. With the sweater/jersey tucked in the pants, the side panels would be a lot more likely to match up.[/quote]

Unfortunately i agree with you. But I can’t see it working. Ever try a slap shot, or make a glove save? The sweater moves… tucking it in would be highly restrictive..

Just my 2 cents.[/quote]

Tucking it in works, but it’s usually more of a pain in the ass than it’s worth. It is always coming untucked.

Also, if the jersey is too small, it kind of tucks itself in. It will probably look bad with the uniforms, but the jersey just kind of falls into looking tucked.

As to the 12th man on Texas A&M’s kickoff coverage, I read that in the blowout opening game this season vs. Louisiana-Lafayette, A&M used all walk-ons for one kickoff coverage play. Presumably, this was late in the game after the outcome had been decided.

Yes, the 12th Man Kickoff team is used in blow outs, and only once or twice a game. So far I think Fran has used it once in three games. The singular 12th Man is still used in all kickoff returns.

[quote comment=”9310″]The biggest problem with the Buffalo jerseys is the fact that the color scheme is stolen from a team with even uglier jerseys (Nashville). The should have left out the silver/gray color.[/quote]

I see nothing wrong with the Predators’ jerseys (except the mustard ones) and color scheme. I think it’s one of the best of the new expansion/relocation teams.

I mean the Sabres unis are terrible, but the away (white) socks are horrendous. Also, can someone PLEASE get a royal blue pants shell for them to wear with the 3rd jerseys? Those angled navy things are not gonna cut it when you’re wearing a retro jersey. The Rangers did it when they wore the vintage ones a few years ago, no reason the Sabres can’t

Also regarding the A&M-Army game, the Black Knights were wearing patches on the front that had different divisions(cavalry, infantry, etc.) represented…

Paul, Japanese jerseys have had player name lettering whose width depends on the length of the name ever since names were first put on the jerseys, and there are in fact three levels of width: the “standard” size (used by Kataoka in link; names of about 6-9 letters), an extra-wide style (Hiyama in the photo; 2-6 letters), and an extra thin style (9 letters or more).

Here’s a good link of the wide style (Atsushi Yano #39) and the thin style (Tsuyoshi Shimoyanagi #42) on that same Hanshi Tigers team.

Where things get really interesting is when teams use numbers of different widths depending on whether the jersey has 1, 2, or 3 digits. The Tigers don’t do this anymore, but until about 2000 they used them. Here’s link.

The Yomiuri Giants produce a gimmick jersey with the number 4869 (this is for a detective manga and is a pun on the word “Sherlock”) that has link on it. (That’s a drawing, but this jersey is actually available for sale in kids’ sizes.)

They also ran a promotion where fans could get Giants jerseys with their own numbers on them, ranging from 200 up to four digits. In this sample from the Giants’ web site, you can see link.

Another thing they’ll often do is leave extra space between each letter, like link. When he was playing, he wore the extra-wide #6, but I can’t find any photos.

And I could have sworn that Scott Karl used this when he pitched with Milwaukee in the mid-1990s. It stood out because it looked so Japanese. Anyone got a photo?

Here’s a picture of The 12th Man patch.
12Th Man
I wish I could rememebr how long they have been wearing this patch. I think it been on the uniform for a little while though.

[quote comment=”9341″][quote comment=”9334″][quote comment=”9310″]The biggest problem with the Buffalo jerseys is the fact that the color scheme is stolen from a team with even uglier jerseys (Nashville). The should have left out the silver/gray color.[/quote]

I see nothing wrong with the Predators’ jerseys (except the mustard ones) and color scheme. I think it’s one of the best of the new expansion/relocation teams.[/quote]

I’ve gotta be a homer here and say that the Wild’s link is the best of the expansion teams. It’s a classic “old time” type of look. No unnecessary piping, or stripes… just a solid, good looking jersey.

The only thing that makes it better is when goalie Josh Harding pairs that jersey with his “old school” link. You just feel like you’re back skating on the pond, don’t you?![/quote]

Now THAT is a good look for goalies!!

OK, one more lettering-width-related post.

The Daiei Hawks didn’t use thinner numbers, so poor Hirota (#105) has his number hanging off the sides of his jersey:

link

[quote comment=”9341″]The only thing that makes it better is when goalie Josh Harding pairs that jersey with his “old school” link. You just feel like you’re back skating on the pond, don’t you?![/quote]

I would, except I’ve never skated on a pond and that goalie helmet sticks out terribly. I see your point, but the helmet kills it for me. I also like the sweaters (they deserve to be called that), but I love those link.

I posted this yesterday and didn’t get any response, so I’m throwing it out there again even though it was ignored or showed my ignorance or both. I hope the links still work.

What’s the NFL rule on shoe color again? I thought it was only black or white, and that it should be uniform for the whole team. Giants observations from the last two weeks:

link. link. link (I know the rules are different for kickers). link. link. link (bonus shot of Dominic Rhodes’ name template coming off. link. link (I know both teams wear blue socks, but the Giants keep more blue showing than the Colts).

So questions are:
Since when was red allowed? How much is too much? These shoes are certainly not uniform. Are other teams as flippantly misbehaved?

[quote comment=”9344″][quote comment=”9326″][quote comment=”9324″][quote comment=”9302″]The matching side panels on the Sabres sweater and trunks may very well be another “push” from Reebok to make the new form-fitting jerseys for next season tucked in the pants. With the sweater/jersey tucked in the pants, the side panels would be a lot more likely to match up.[/quote]

Unfortunately i agree with you. But I can’t see it working. Ever try a slap shot, or make a glove save? The sweater moves… tucking it in would be highly restrictive..

Just my 2 cents.[/quote]

Tucking it in works, but it’s usually more of a pain in the ass than it’s worth. It is always coming untucked.

Also, if the jersey is too small, it kind of tucks itself in. It will probably look bad with the uniforms, but the jersey just kind of falls into looking tucked.[/quote]

On second, I can think of link who made the tuck in work…[/quote]

I can’t really do a ton of searching here at work, but I believe Modano also tucked in one side of his jersey.

I don’t know if there is picture proof of it, but I remember doing it when I was little, and the North Stars were here, because he did it.

About Josh Harding’s helmet, I really like the tribute to the old style masks on it. What I really wish he would do is take his mask and change it to a tribute to an old North Stars goalie or something. What he has now looks nice though.

I’m not super into the alternate Wild jersey. I don’t really like the logo on there. I’d rather see it say Minnesota or Wild diagonally across the jersey (Colorado uses something like it already, which may be a reason not to do it, though).

In regards to Coco Crisp wearing soccer cleats, they sort of look like they may be since soccer cleats are less bulkier than regular baseball cleats. The only thing I could think that would be a disadvantage to wearing a soccer cleat in baseball is that soccer cleats have no cleat right up front where a baseball cleat has one.

[quote comment=”9348″][quote comment=”9341″][quote comment=”9334″][quote comment=”9310″]The biggest problem with the Buffalo jerseys is the fact that the color scheme is stolen from a team with even uglier jerseys (Nashville). The should have left out the silver/gray color.[/quote]

I see nothing wrong with the Predators’ jerseys (except the mustard ones) and color scheme. I think it’s one of the best of the new expansion/relocation teams.[/quote]

I’ve gotta be a homer here and say that the Wild’s link is the best of the expansion teams. It’s a classic “old time” type of look. No unnecessary piping, or stripes… just a solid, good looking jersey.

The only thing that makes it better is when goalie Josh Harding pairs that jersey with his “old school” link. You just feel like you’re back skating on the pond, don’t you?![/quote]

Now THAT is a good look for goalies!![/quote]

Agreed. This is a rare time when an alternate jersey looks “old school” rather than “futuristic” or “faux-retro”. The brown goalie pads re-enforce the “old school” look. Anyone got a better close up shot of Josh Harding’s mask which has drawings of old-time masks (Cheevers’, Dryden’s, Plante’s, etc.) on it? A very cool tribute to his predecessors at that position.

Is it me, or does the Bronco helmet decale seem bigger this year?

[quote comment=”9361″][quote comment=”9348″][quote comment=”9341″][quote comment=”9334″][quote comment=”9310″]

Agreed. This is a rare time when an alternate jersey looks “old school” rather than “futuristic” or “faux-retro”. The brown goalie pads re-enforce the “old school” look. Anyone got a better close up shot of Josh Harding’s mask which has drawings of old-time masks (Cheevers’, Dryden’s, Plante’s, etc.) on it? A very cool tribute to his predecessors at that position.[/quote]

link a little closer look at Harding’s mask and pads.

Natron, thanks. It looks even better with him being a left-handed goalie; gives him the old Tony Esposito look. – Barney

Does anyone out there know what link and link wear on their shoulder pads. You have to look close in the pictures, but if you see them play their jerseys are being pushed up right on their names. I know other players have these, but Taylor is the one I most associate with this item.

So, what is this thing called, and what does it look like sans jersey?

[quote comment=”9371″]Does anyone out there know what link and link wear on their shoulder pads. You have to look close in the pictures, but if you see them play their jerseys are being pushed up right on their names. I know other players have these, but Taylor is the one I most associate with this item.

So, what is this thing called, and what does it look like sans jersey?[/quote]

It’s a tube for their TMS (Temperature Management System) pads. They pump some sort of water or something through them to keep cool. A picture of them plugged in can be found link.

My girlfriend (an Aggie) said when she was there in the mid-90’s that there was not a single 12th Man for the season, but one for each game, so there were actually a dozen or so 12th Men.

She knew someone who had the chance to be a 4th-team LB and never play all year or be the 12th Man for one game (it was an either/or situation for some reason under RC Slocum). He chose the 12th Man.

Does anyone know when the Reskins announced that they were going to wear Link Name for last night’s game? I was surprised to see them. Have they worn black shoes ever in recent years?

I know that the Red jerseys are rare because WAS chooses white at home, but will they continue to wear black shoes for the rest of the season with any or all of their uni combos?

[quote comment=”9341″][quote comment=”9334″][quote comment=”9310″]The biggest problem with the Buffalo jerseys is the fact that the color scheme is stolen from a team with even uglier jerseys (Nashville). The should have left out the silver/gray color.[/quote]

I see nothing wrong with the Predators’ jerseys (except the mustard ones) and color scheme. I think it’s one of the best of the new expansion/relocation teams.[/quote]

I’ve gotta be a homer here and say that the Wild’s link is the best of the expansion teams. It’s a classic “old time” type of look. No unnecessary piping, or stripes… just a solid, good looking jersey.

The only thing that makes it better is when goalie Josh Harding pairs that jersey with his “old school” link. You just feel like you’re back skating on the pond, don’t you?![/quote]

As a former high school ice hockey goalie I love those brown pads, however Natron I disagree with you about Minnesota having the best expansion jerseys. Personally I love the Columbus alternate jersey Jackets Jersey

Then again I also have season tickets to the jackets and like the color blue so is my opinion biased? Oh yes, but just my 2 cents.

/long time lerker
//first time poster

Sorry screwed up the link

link

any chance webmaster we can get a preview post buttom for people that suck at html like me?

[quote comment=”9381″][quote comment=”9379″]Does anyone know when the Reskins announced that they were going to wear Link Name for last night’s game? I was surprised to see them. Have they worn black shoes ever in recent years?

They wore black shoes link at home. I think it’s year long.[/quote]

Ooops! Try link instead. Sorry!

[quote comment=”9382″][quote comment=”9341″][quote comment=”9334″][quote comment=”9310″]The biggest problem with the Buffalo jerseys is the fact that the color scheme is stolen from a team with even uglier jerseys (Nashville). The should have left out the silver/gray color.[/quote]

I see nothing wrong with the Predators’ jerseys (except the mustard ones) and color scheme. I think it’s one of the best of the new expansion/relocation teams.[/quote]

I’ve gotta be a homer here and say that the Wild’s link is the best of the expansion teams. It’s a classic “old time” type of look. No unnecessary piping, or stripes… just a solid, good looking jersey.

The only thing that makes it better is when goalie Josh Harding pairs that jersey with his “old school” link. You just feel like you’re back skating on the pond, don’t you?![/quote]

As a former high school ice hockey goalie I love those brown pads, however Natron I disagree with you about Minnesota having the best expansion jerseys. Personally I love the Columbus alternate jersey Jackets Jersey

Then again I also have season tickets to the jackets and like the color blue so is my opinion biased? Oh yes, but just my 2 cents.

/long time lerker
//first time poster[/quote]

Everybody has a home team favoritism I guess (I know I do), but for me, I’m not a big fan of throwing stars all over a link. It always reminds me of link.

[quote comment=”9387″][quote comment=”9384″]any chance webmaster we can get a preview post buttom for people that suck at html like me?[/quote]
I’ve toyed with the idea. Is this something that people here would want?[/quote]

YES! I constantly look like a moron posting on here because I KANT TIPE! I’m really a moron for so many other things as well… this makes me look like a one trick pony.

I can confirm that the Navy kicker was wearing “NAYV” on his jersey. I was one of the unforunate to witness the Stanford game on TV. I am unable to capture images from TV though.

Also, I specifically looked at NFL socks this weekend, and was saddened to see only TWO teams wore striped socks- the Bears & Cheifs. Every other team wore solid socks. (the Broncos do have an orange stripe below the blue on their socks).
Too bad we have lost the Dolphins, 49ers, Saints, Packers, Colts even the Browns. With all the crazy stripes/piping the NFL has been slapping on uniforms, who decided solid color socks were the way to go?
And I will bet you anything by the time next year rolls around, the NFL will put in a standard amount of white vs color socks will have to show, since you get situations like last nights Redskins game where some players wore solid marron socks, and some wore virtually all white.

finally, while the Minnesota Wild may have decent looking third jerseys, they are still called the “Minnesota Wild”. Lamest name in top flight American sports, and their logo is awful as well.

Lee

[quote comment=”9391″][quote comment=”9382″][quote comment=”9341″][quote comment=”9334″][quote comment=”9310″]Everybody has a home team favoritism I guess (I know I do), but for me, I’m not a big fan of throwing stars all over a link. It always reminds me of link.[/quote]

I understand the whole looks like the 4th of July and everything and Uncle Sam, but that’s what the Jackets are going for with that alt. The Logo is supposed to be the blues(like the union army) and they are tryin to get support that way. come on, we are the same state that tried to have a football team that was named the glory and wore
link thats just how they do in C Bus, kind of like everyone trys to put the nights and titans in New york, etc. as for me, I really like the alt unis too.

[quote comment=”9387″][quote comment=”9384″]any chance webmaster we can get a preview post buttom for people that suck at html like me?[/quote]
I’ve toyed with the idea. Is this something that people here would want?[/quote]

Yes indeed!!!

not sure if you guys talked about it at all, but apparently the Bruins goalie Toivannan is wearing a mask that pays tribute to Slap Shot. the movie, not the band.

[quote comment=”9396″]Also, I specifically looked at NFL socks this weekend, and was saddened to see only TWO teams wore striped socks- the Bears & Cheifs. Every other team wore solid socks. (the Broncos do have an orange stripe below the blue on their socks).
Too bad we have lost the Dolphins, 49ers, Saints, Packers, Colts even the Browns. With all the crazy stripes/piping the NFL has been slapping on uniforms, who decided solid color socks were the way to go?[/quote]

link

[quote comment=”9404″]
link[/quote]

My bad… but the Patriots barely count.
=]

Lee

[quote comment=”9310″]The biggest problem with the Buffalo jerseys is the fact that the color scheme is stolen from a team with even uglier jerseys (Nashville). The should have left out the silver/gray color.

The other thing is the blatant better alternative of just creating a jersey that looked like the LaFontaine-era sweaters. You can use the darker blue and modern logo, but go back to the traditional template, a la the Islanders.[/quote]
Casey…… ‘LaFontaine era????? I’m no Sabres fan, but the correct term is “Martin-Robert-Perreault’ era. Pat Laf was but a pimple those collective arses… the french connection was a massive line.

[quote comment=”9371″]Does anyone out there know what link and link wear on their shoulder pads. You have to look close in the pictures, but if you see them play their jerseys are being pushed up right on their names. I know other players have these, but Taylor is the one I most associate with this item.

So, what is this thing called, and what does it look like sans jersey?[/quote]

I can assume two things from this post, one you are a young kid, and two new to the game of football. I will try to help out as much as I can. Not knowing exactly what they wear under their jersey’s you can assume it is one of two things normally. The first would be a basic Neck Roll, however, they do not seem to stick out as high as a normal neck roll would. So it could be a youth neck roll. I actually wore one of these and it fits adult size shoulder pads, but isn’t as big. The other option could be a McDavid Cowboy Collar. Now, again this would normally stick up a lot higher than the two pictures used earlier, but I have seen them cut to gain the desired look. It won’t be as functional, if at all, but it was more of an intimidation/appearance decision.

I am from MN, obviously, but I do not like the Wild logo or name. I *do* like the colors–the green and red look sharp.

It seems there are quite a few folk from MN. How many strong are we? Maybe we could entice Paul to our great state by strength of sheer numbers. Count off, those from the land of a zillion lakes–and more mosquitos; Paul, first beer is on me.

[quote comment=”9411″][quote comment=”9371″]Does anyone out there know what link and link wear on their shoulder pads. You have to look close in the pictures, but if you see them play their jerseys are being pushed up right on their names. I know other players have these, but Taylor is the one I most associate with this item.

So, what is this thing called, and what does it look like sans jersey?[/quote]

I can assume two things from this post, one you are a young kid, and two new to the game of football. I will try to help out as much as I can. Not knowing exactly what they wear under their jersey’s you can assume it is one of two things normally. The first would be a basic Neck Roll, however, they do not seem to stick out as high as a normal neck roll would. So it could be a youth neck roll. I actually wore one of these and it fits adult size shoulder pads, but isn’t as big. The other option could be a McDavid Cowboy Collar. Now, again this would normally stick up a lot higher than the two pictures used earlier, but I have seen them cut to gain the desired look. It won’t be as functional, if at all, but it was more of an intimidation/appearance decision.[/quote]

Well, lets see, nope, I’m 29, and nope, been an NFL guy for a while now. So, I’ve known about this neck roll you speak of for link and I’ve also seen link.

So, that’s why I’m confused, neither of these make the jersey do link, or link. And, this smaller “neck roll” doesn’t seem to add much help in the head snap dept.

[quote comment=”9418″]Now that I got my MN pride out of the way, to other topics.

The Sabre jersey–I agree with Paul on all accounts. Buffaslug is cute, but not mascot-worthy.

Ek, I, too, would like a preview button, if only because I nearly always want to revise what I’ve written.

The horror: I was browsing through the NHL shop for kicks and came across this– link

While I don’t mind the form-fitting aspect, I hate the pink. Just because I’m female doesn’t mean I want to wear pink. It appears that’s the official women’s jersey of the NHL.[/quote]

I got my official NHL catalog on saturday. Two-page spread of officially licensed Pink apparel for the ladies (at least one could assume that from the sizes and pictures of ladies wearing the stuff). It actually hurt my eyes going from pages of jerseys and logos to nothing but pink.

And Minna- my wife had the same reaction. Just because she’s female doesn’t mean she needs a pink Pens shirt.

Ekdahl- A preview button would be great. Especailly for those of us without any experience with code, etc.

[quote comment=”9402″]not sure if you guys talked about it at all, but apparently the Bruins goalie Toivannan is wearing a mask that pays tribute to Slap Shot. the movie, not the band.[/quote]

I mentioned it in another post, but I think it kind of got skipped over.

I saw a picture of the Denis Lemiuex mask, and it looks cool.

As far as the Wild go, I hated the name right from the start, but I’m kind of used to it now. Being a Minnesota guy, I’m just glad to have hockey back. I thought the logo was dumb, but it’s worn onto me.

I wish they would put that logo on the red jersey, just to see what it’s like.

Paul,
I disagree with Brooks about the quality of the site. I think things have rebounded nicely since the Nike infiltration last week. In fact, I was concerned after it happened and the rest of the day was swept up in it, that the general uni-centric discussion that we normally have on here, would be altered. But we have steered things back to the normal and I couldn’t be happier. I don’t say this to kiss butt or defend anyone as I don’t believe either is necessary. I applaud your commitment and the site. I don’t always agree with your opinion, but that’s what the discussion is all about anyway.
Moving on… John I do agree with Minna, I would love a preview button. It seems a better idea than an edit button, to me anyway.

Talk about Logo-Creep overkill – Is Brady Quinn being paid for all this promotion?

link

I dont get where anyone questions where this site has gone to. This is simply a forum to discuss our quirky obsession with others who understand. It angers me to see people taking shots at others for no reason. Just wanna thank you again Paul for doing this, and dont let the very small minority who are unhappy get in the way of what youre doing.

how many swooshes in total appear on the entire Oregon ensemble. They’re everywhere! I remember the hoopla when the swoosh got added to the jerseys of my Nittany Lions. I only hope it doesn’t expand any more.

[quote comment=”9424″][quote comment=”9421″]I got my official NHL catalog on saturday. Two-page spread of officially licensed Pink apparel for the ladies (at least one could assume that from the sizes and pictures of ladies wearing the stuff). It actually hurt my eyes going from pages of jerseys and logos to nothing but pink.

And Minna- my wife had the same reaction. Just because she’s female doesn’t mean she needs a pink Pens shirt. [/quote]

The horror! The agony! Thanks, ESS, for verifying my deepest fears.

NHL: Go ahead and make your pink outfits, but make a true replica for women as well. Don’t make me hurt you.

Hey, ESS, sounds like you have a keeper in your wife. Not only does she apparently like sports, she also has discerning taste.[/quote]

Thanks! Except for her born-in-Picksburgh-dyed-in-the-wool love for all things black and gold, she is a keeper! We have some rough sundays here in Philly during the fall and winter!

[quote comment=”9422″]Paul, get a life, I meant nothing from the comment, I was making an assumption, hence the “I assume” part, I have really been turned off to the direction this site has taken in the last week or so, and will be adjusting my readership accordingly. I have never witnessed anything more snide than the comments made about the poster from Nike. They may not have been made by you, but you should have some control over what your webmaster posts. So Paul keep up your pointless crusade against Nike and corporate America, because this site has gone down the crapper quickly.

Also if you were to look back at my posts you will see that not a single one was ever snide nor disrespectful, they were always meant in the nicest way, but hey whatever.[/quote]

I’m sure the last thing Paul needs is somebody arguing on his behalf, so I’ll try not to get into it too much, but suffice it to say, I disagree with you. To say there is a “crusade against Nike and corporate america”, I believe is an incorrect statement (although Paul himself may disagree!). In fact, I think there’s just the opposite occuring on this site – so much so that an entire column was dedicated to INCLUDING link.

The crusade – in my eyes – is against the corporate america MINDSET, that they’re entitled to desecrate dozens of traditions by plastering swooshes and stripes all over the place. In many cases, corporate logos have to be a necessary evil – I don’t think anybody that posts on this board or writes on this blog is naive enough to think that the money generated by these companies is insignificant. Of course it is, and as a result, the companies should be entitled to some link, but to just completely link? I don’t think there’s anything wrong with questioning that.

[quote comment=”9372″][quote comment=”9309″]I didn’t have a chance to write over the weekend but I was watching the BC/BYU game and noticed that BYU had 2 merit stickers, One was silver and one was gold. I couldn’t find a good picture of it. I know Paul wrote about stickers before but I can’t remember if he mentioned BYU (I would look at the article but am not an “Insider”). Anyone know the meaning of each sticker?[/quote]

BYU has two different merit stickers. The blue (not silver) stickers are for on field accomplishments. The gold are for academic accomplishments or for work in the community.[/quote]

Thanks Bryan

[quote comment=”9403″]I can’t argue the team name either. I agree with you about the plural sounding team name. But of the alternatives given (Blue Ox, Northern Lights, White Bears, Voyageurs, and Freeze), Wild isn’t all that bad.

As far as the link, it drove me nuts when I first saw it too, it but as a Minnesotan, I like the sybolism within – it gives a big nod to a lot of the “Minnesota lifestyle” (for lack of a better term). The mouth is a river, the green trees on the face (there are also red trees if you look at it upside down), and the star on the sun it intended as a two fold tribute… it’s the North Star (being that Minnesota is the North Star state), and it’s a nod to the Minnesota North Stars as well.

I don’t expect anybody outside of Minnesota to give 2 craps about this by the way![/quote]

I still say, that until they moved, the Minnesota Moose (which IS PLURAL by the way!) had the coolest name and logo in hockey – although Manitoba Moose is just as cool, and the little Maple Leaf in the logo is a nice touch![/quote]

Wow! Were those other names (Blue Ox, Northern Lights, White Bears, Voyageurs, and Freeze) actual choices for the team name? They’re awful!

Does anything think there is a similarity in link and link? Methinks Sabres owner B. Thomas Golisano needs to mix in some veggies and a salad.

[quote comment=”9426″]Hannu Toivonen is indeed wearing an awesome link as well as brown pads (also by Itech which is worn by Ricky Franchise.)[/quote]
Toivonen is actualy wearing yellow pafds as the Bruins colors include yellow. I have yet to come across a picture of him in the vintage colord pads. As a goalie who is shopping for new pads, the old school looking brown is an option and manufacturers call ti vintage.

On the football front, here is another uniform that’s using side panels – link.

[quote comment=”9449″]>As far as the logo, it drove me nuts when I first saw it too, it but as a Minnesotan, I like the sybolism within – it gives a big nod to a lot of the “Minnesota lifestyle.”

If it’s about the MN lifestyle, then it’s sorely incomplete without link[/quote]

if that is correct, then based on the picture below below, i though brady quinn might have claimed minnesota as his home. Alas, i was link

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[quote comment=”9432″]how many swooshes in total appear on the entire Oregon ensemble. They’re everywhere! I remember the hoopla when the swoosh got added to the jerseys of my Nittany Lions. I only hope it doesn’t expand any more.[/quote]

I’ll bet they make the diamond plating pattern into little nike swooshes. If only they took out that stupid pattern, I think that they would have some awesome uniforms.

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Ricardo’s link (above) shows Hannu Toivonen with a goalie stick that has “Montreal” written on it. For a Bruins’ fan, this is totally unacceptable. Back to Europe for you, Hannu!

[quote comment=”9458″]http://www.wickedbruinsfan.com/gallery/091506scrimmage/091506bruins_177

Ricardo’s link (above) shows Hannu Toivonen with a goalie stick that has “Montreal” written on it. For a Bruins’ fan, this is totally unacceptable. Back to Europe for you, Hannu![/quote]

Montreal is a stick manufacturer who’s sticks are gaining popularity with goaltenders. Mikka Kippersof of the Flames is probably the most notable goaltender using the brand of sticks.

[quote comment=”9462″][quote comment=”9458″]http://www.wickedbruinsfan.com/gallery/091506scrimmage/091506bruins_177

Ricardo’s link (above) shows Hannu Toivonen with a goalie stick that has “Montreal” written on it. For a Bruins’ fan, this is totally unacceptable. Back to Europe for you, Hannu![/quote]

Montreal is a stick manufacturer who’s sticks are gaining popularity with goaltenders. Mikka Kippersof of the Flames is probably the most notable goaltender using the brand of sticks.[/quote]

And since Montreal Sports is based in Finland, they are particularly popular among Finnish goalies such as Hannu and Kipper…

-Ricardo

[quote comment=”9466″][quote comment=”9459″][quote comment=”9452″]It’s sort of an odd dijon mustard sort of thing, with strips of French’s cheap yellow mustard (the standard sport gold) mixed in. Speaking as both a Bruins fan and a goalie, I don’t care for it at all…[/quote]
But tell us…what do you think as a condiment fan? ;)[/quote]

In condiments, as in sports uniforms, I prefer cheap yellow mustard!

-Ricardo[/quote]

Some prefer cheap yellow mustard, some prefer link.

My apologies.

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[quote comment=”9471″][quote comment=”9470″]The Live Preview for Comments is now open for business.[/quote]
Aewsmoe![/quote]

I mean… Awesome!

Damn thing is broken.

[quote comment=”9473″]I noticed that Michigan had a yellow wrap-around stripe/piping against Notre Dame on Saturday. You can see it link and link. Is this new for this season?[/quote]

Yup – I think someone mentioned it over the weekend in the open feeds, but we believe it’s new for this season – more of the Nike framing.

ah yes, my instincts served me correct…

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Ok, this is a long post, but bear with me. As a Canadian kid, hockey = life, so I will address what I know.

The Great One’s jersey tuck was his signature. However, this signature started out of necessity. When Wayne was six years-old, he played for a team called the Nadrofsky Steelers. His jersey was too big and reached his knees, so his dad, Walter, tucked in the right side of his jersey to facilitate his right-handed shot. He carried this through his days in junior, the WHL, and the NHL. Other Gretzky tidbits? He used baby powder on his stick because the snow from the ice wouldn’t stick to it. He also used wooden Titan hockey sticks until he was traded to LA. There, he used the Easton aluminum stick for the first time.

Peter Karmanos still owns the Whalers’ rights. This is why there are no NHL Vintage jerseys of the Hartford Whalers. In my opinion, I wouldn’t want the Whalers outselling the Hurricanes if I owned the ‘Canes.

Natron in post #79 had it right about the Wild logo. However, in regards to the Wild’s alternate jersey, I do like the traditional look. I don’t like the logo. The mini-Wild logo in the middle screws it up. What they need to do is go traditional, much like the Golden Gophers’ “M”. Or put the “M” inside the circle like the Boston Bruins’ logo. Either way, the current alternate logo detracts from the traditional styling of the jersey.

Golden Gophers: link

Speaking of alternate jerseys, the Colorado Avalanche’s alternate jersey should not be applauded. The diagonal lettering has been done before: NY Rangers and Pittsburgh Penguins to name two. They need to employ their current logo or their alternate logo and ditch the diagonal lettering. It works for the Rangers because of tradition. It was scrapped by Pittsburgh because people didn’t like it. The Avs simply copied the Penguins jersey. Personally, they should slap the alternate logo on there, and give it a go. It worked for Nashville.

Avalanche alternate logo: link

As for Nashville’s alternate jerseys, mustard yellow is not a hockey color or a self-respecting color. Michigan and Sweden are two of the most successful yellow teams, and both employ a bold yellow. Nashville needs to scrap that puke-colored jersey and try the yellow that is currently in their design.

Josh Harding’s switch to more modern pads may be for a good reason. The older, brown leather pads are heavier. Old goalie pads were made of deer hair, sponge and/or felt inside the leather. When the leather got wet, it made sliding across the ice almost impossible. Modern pads are made of synthetic materials. These newer pads are lighter and offer more protection. Any advantage you can get in today’s NHL is seen as a good one, so Harding might be switching due to the nature of the old, brown pads.

Finally, if you’re thinking about putting a preview button in, John, please do so. Since we’re concerned with esthetics (if we aren’t, why are we here?), this addition would reduce the amount of typos and double-posts. And we all want to be part of the best site on the Net, right? Well, except for those located in Beaverton, Oregon. :o)

Could that fish drawing on Brady Quinn’s wristband be a Jesus Fish? Is he big on religion?

[quote comment=”9445″]Does anything think there is a similarity in link and link? Methinks Sabres owner B. Thomas Golisano needs to mix in some veggies and a salad.[/quote]
I would much rather see the Buff Wild logo that that disgusting slug. That thing is a disgrace to the Sabres past, the City of Buffalo and most importantly its fans. While I appreciate the return to blue and gold, the organization should either make a full return to the originals or use the designs shown and fully explained link

An open question: How did Islanders fans go about getting that fisherman removed? How can we replicate this in Buffalo? I dont want to see that legless puke rainbow again after this season.

i disagree with that aspect of thinking…
a representative of the school or athletic department would have to approve a submission of a few different designs, no?

i mean, although the navy michigan jersey seen link, adheres to the new template of using the 2 fabrics, the concept is not accentuated by added piping like the white michigan jersey. if nike was really trying to create brand awareness, wouldnt it also be on the blue shirt? it would just seem logical that michigan would have the final say on what their uni’s will be…

also, the new kobe replica jerseys are up for sale. i guess adidas is getting a jump on things…
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[quote comment=”9489″][quote comment=”9487″]i disagree with that aspect of thinking…
a representative of the school or athletic department would have to approve a submission of a few different designs, no?

i mean, although the navy michigan jersey seen link, adheres to the new template of using the 2 fabrics, the concept is not accentuated by added piping like the white michigan jersey. if nike was really trying to create brand awareness, wouldnt it also be on the blue shirt? it would just seem logical that michigan would have the final say on what their uni’s will be…

also, the new kobe replica jerseys are up for sale. i guess adidas is getting a jump on things…
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wow, you just took what i was gonna say. i happenned to stumble upon the link for the new kobe jerseys at nba.com. it looks like the nba has switched from reebok to adidas as their main sponser, as shown in the previous photo. hopefully they won’t screw with the jerseys.[/quote]

The numbers on the back look a little…different. Larger maybe? Maybe I’m just not used to any number other than 8 being on a Kobe jersey.

I happened to notice that McFarlane is featuring new images of the latest line of NBA figures on his website link. There happens to be a Kobe Bryant figure (the fourth Kobe-McFarlane figure). I was happy to see that they didn’t detail the figure out with the moonboots and tights that Kobe featured for the majority of last season.

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It makes me wonder who will be the first McFarlane figure to be wearing tights?

In non-related uni Nike/Oregon news.

Discovered by OU website after terrible call on the onside kick.

Replay booth official is John Walters.
International Sales Coordinator at Nike

[quote comment=”9480″]
Speaking of alternate jerseys, the Colorado Avalanche’s alternate jersey should not be applauded. The diagonal lettering has been done before: NY Rangers and Pittsburgh Penguins to name two. They need to employ their current logo or their alternate logo and ditch the diagonal lettering. It works for the Rangers because of tradition. It was scrapped by Pittsburgh because people didn’t like it. The Avs simply copied the Penguins jersey. Personally, they should slap the alternate logo on there, and give it a go. It worked for Nashville.

Avalanche alternate logo: link

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I believe, maybe, there was something like that WAAAAY back in the day (all of 10 years ago), but no one wanted a foot on their jersey. Not even Adam \pun. Any photo evidence?
And what about the old Hockey Rockies apparel? Do the Devils still own those rights?

While we were on the discussion about goalie masks, I immediatly thought of Kellen Brigg’s mask. He is one of the goalies on the U of M’s hockey team. It is very very similar (basically identical) to the Bruins goalie’s. However, this picture does not show his very bright, gold pads. They are not a gold gold but a gophers gold (way to be technical, eh?)

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[quote comment=”9502″]While we were on the discussion about goalie masks, I immediatly thought of Kellen Brigg’s mask. He is one of the goalies on the U of M’s hockey team. It is very very similar (basically identical) to the Bruins goalie’s. However, this picture does not show his very bright, gold pads. They are not a gold gold but a gophers gold (way to be technical, eh?)

link[/quote]

link. It’s quite similar to link (not to be confused with link)

[quote comment=”9505″]link for “Trevor Kidd Is Out Of His F*uckin’ Mind” Red and White.

Sorry ’bout that.[/quote]

The design on his red-and-white pads are actually the hurricane warning flag. Yes, it’s overdone and tacky. However, it is unique. And my post does lag terribly bad too.

[quote comment=”9507″][quote comment=”9505″]link for “Trevor Kidd Is Out Of His F*uckin’ Mind” Red and White.

Sorry ’bout that.[/quote]

The design on his red-and-white pads are actually the hurricane warning flag. Yes, it’s overdone and tacky. However, it is unique. And my post does lag terribly bad too.[/quote]

Yeah, they’re warning flags, and I guess it’s kind of creative. Maybe he’s just a team guy… but I’m guessing he was more of a team guy in Toronto when he had a matching link and link.

Wonder if he ever took acid…

[quote comment=”9496″]In non-related uni Nike/Oregon news.

Discovered by OU website after terrible call on the onside kick.

Replay booth official is John Walters.
International Sales Coordinator at Nike[/quote]

Awesome stuff. Obviously no fan wants to be accused of being a crybaby after a tough loss, but as an Oklahoma fan, I knew there was something more than met the eye there. I mean, I know the guy is human, but how could he miss TWO obvious calls (including the pass interference) WITH replay in a minute and twelve seconds?

As you can see, the two days since this happened haven’t really helped my blood pressure…

Army and Navy wear division patches when they declare their field of interest. But this isnt limited to football, ive seen it in baseball, but most often in Lacrosse games.

I’m watching the Monday Night Football game now. On a different logo creep note, anyone else bothered as much as I am by GMC being in the opening credits like they are so much? Last year with ABC it was even worse.

On another note, anyone in the Washington, DC are know of a Maryland D-II or III team (might be Bowie State?… or the team they just played this past weekend) that has (I *think*) the state of Maryland on its helmet? And since the picture of the state can’t have a mirror image, it goes “left to right” on both sides of the helmet? (As opposed to every other football helmet design.)

Or I could have confused that team’s logo with something else that wasn’t the state of Maryland and making a fool of myself in the process.

By the way, being from Buffalo, it’s nice to get some attention (any attention), even if it is about less than par uniforms.

Just watching the Tigers / Sox game and the announcers started talking first about Guillen’s new two-tone glove and they noticed how his pocket was also out. That’s fine, nothing unnormal about that, but they they happened to mention that they had seen JIM LEYLAND wearing his pocket out around the clubhouse. JIM LEYLAND. I couldn’t believe it!!!!

[quote comment=”9521″]And since the picture of the state can’t have a mirror image, it goes “left to right” on both sides of the helmet? (As opposed to every other football helmet design.)[/quote]

Well, except for the 50% of helmets that have letters on them (Cal, Steelers, Miami, etc)

Louisiana Tech also has the state in their link meaning no mirror image on the helmet. The starting QB also has the best link in college football.

okay, okay…i’m ALL FOR uni related details, minor tweaks, etc…but for Gods sake can the new sweaters of a crappy NHL team be dropped??!! maybe due to the fact that I’m from FL makes me less caring..but still…

[quote comment=”9531″]okay, okay…i’m ALL FOR uni related details, minor tweaks, etc…but for Gods sake can the new sweaters of a crappy NHL team be dropped??!! maybe due to the fact that I’m from FL makes me less caring..but still…[/quote]

No. You should realize this will be discussed ad infinitum.

This is somewhat un-uni related but…
I’m glad, being a Met fan currently living in Los Angeles that MLB.tv didn’t cut the feed and let us watch the celebration…classy move that I didn’t expect.

Hoverver did anyone notice that the hats say link while the shirts said link as expected?

[quote comment=”9477″][quote comment=”9473″]I noticed that Michigan had a yellow wrap-around stripe/piping against Notre Dame on Saturday. You can see it link and link. Is this new for this season?[/quote]

No, it began last season. Interestingly, I got a note about this last night from someone at Nike. He says he’s a big fan of the site, and he works in Nike’s R&D department. He said the R&D people often “butt heads” with the aesthetics/design people, and then he said this about Michigan’s wraparound stripe:

“Those bibs on football uniforms? that’s actually a seamline between two fabrics engineered for for better breathability during hot & humid weather – a big improvement over the older thick jerseys that players used to wear. and yes, this technology is tested scientifically at nike. the designers added that bib line not just as an attempt to make it asthetically pleasing, but also to highlight the performance feature of the jersey, which nike hasn’t been really communicating to the public.”

Here’s what I wrote back to him:

“But why does the seam need to be a different color? Why do you have to HIGHLIGHT this performance aspect? Why can’t the team just wear it and benefit from it? It’s basically a way of saying, ‘Look at Nike, look at us, look what we did!’ It’s all about Nike, instead of about the team. That’s my biggest problem with Nike — not the design elements themselves (although some of those are pretty bad too), but rather that these design elements are used within the context of team uniforms to advertise the company. Nike uses graphic design elements like the bib to create Nike brand awareness, when the only brand a uniform should be promoting is the team itself. You wanna do all sorts of high-tech performance-enhancing stuff? Great! But don’t advertise it on my team’s jersey. The only thing I want to be thinking about when I root for my team is, um, MY TEAM. I don’t want to be thinking about Nike (or Reebok, or whoever).”

This exchange, to me, is the Nike/anti-Nike debate in a nutshell.[/quote]

Yeah, I got to watch My Buckeyes win this weekend, but since it was a bacholr party and one dude was there in a scUM jersey, and u can see that it is 2 diff types of fabric. One was the old school mesh around the numbers where the pads would be so it could stay cool, the other part was the silky looking stuff that basketball uni’s are made out of.

I didn’t see the Broncos game live, but on highlights, it looks like Tatum Bell was wearing his normal “T. BELL” jersey while Mike Bell just had “BELL” with the area to the left of it taped over. Did they lose the Mike jersey and give him a makeshift extra Tatum model?

[quote comment=”9480″]
Josh Harding’s switch to more modern pads may be for a good reason. The older, brown leather pads are heavier. Old goalie pads were made of deer hair, sponge and/or felt inside the leather. When the leather got wet, it made sliding across the ice almost impossible. Modern pads are made of synthetic materials. These newer pads are lighter and offer more protection. Any advantage you can get in today’s NHL is seen as a good one, so Harding might be switching due to the nature of the old, brown pads.
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Harding never wore the older style pad. The “retro” color pads were made interally from the same materials as any other modern pad. His pads had a material called “bucky” on the face. It’s a synthetic leather with a rough face. The pads he is wearing now use jenpro as the facing material.

Don’t forget that last season the NHL mandated that all goalies use a narrower 11″ pad forcing all goalies to wear new pads. Along with smaller gloves, body pads and tighter fitting pants.

[quote comment=”9658″]
Don’t forget that last season the NHL mandated that all goalies use a narrower 11″ pad forcing all goalies to wear new pads. Along with smaller gloves, body pads and tighter fitting pants.[/quote]

All the old, brown leather pads were much smaller than what was used. You would need 6-8 deer to get the pads that Garth Snow used to use!

I was talking about the pads that were once used in the NHL up to the mid-80s. All I was saying was that if Harding was using the old style of pads, he might have switched out of necessity.