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Candy Up, Terrapin Nation


By Phil Hecken

Earlier this week, in the ticker, Paul posted a fantastic quote from former Longhorn Coach Darrell Royal, which read:

“Hell no. I’m not going to candy this thing up. These are work clothes.”

The quote was in reference to a suggestion that the Texas football team start putting some fancy stripes onto their uniforms. Several readers thought it was a fantastic quote, one worthy of describing any time a team seeks to alter its uniform. It didn’t seem to catch on, however, so I’m making the official motion to adopt it as part of the Uni Watch lexicon. Who’s with me?

If you’ve been following college football for any length of time, but particularly this season, it seems now it’s news when a team doesn’t candy up on a weekly basis. No team or uniform manufacturer (whether it’s Nike, Russell, UnderArmour or adidas) seems immune to the introduction of something new, often a brand new uniform and helmet, seemingly to be worn as a one-off. Whether it be for cancer awareness, the WWP or simply because a uni manufacturer can, the candy keeps on coming. Today just happens to be about the tenth new uniform this season for Maryland, but the Terps are by no means alone in this shenanigans. While this may suck for purists, it’s good for business for a uniform discussion blog.

I’ve given up criticizing college unis for not remaining true to anything the university stands for anymore — whether it be school colors, design elements or shiny motorcycle helmets…and I now tend to judge these one-offs and alternates based simply on how they look as a uniform.

A couple weeks ago, Maryland sported what was arguably the worst alternate uniform (certainly the most gaudy) in college football this year.

But just a scant few weeks before that, they wore one of the nicest alts in school history (IMHO). That almost all-white uniform was known as white ops, and looked clean, pure and good. Today, they’ll be taking the field in almost the mirror opposite, shockingly being referred to as black ops. Military imagery aside, I like the look of this new one. And, technically, it’s not even BFBS, since black is a school color.

As you can see from those pics, they’ve gone from in-your-face to subtle, replacing their “black flag” bright colors with charcoal gray representations of the flag. “MARYLAND” is spelled out in red, with gold-outlined black numbers, which also bear the checkerboard pattern of a portion of the flag. About the only flair on the entire uni is, of course, the tramp stamp flag pattern on the lumbar region. Better than their usual ass stripes, that’s for sure (although just as the white ops pants had sublimated ass stripes, it appears as though the black ops pants will as well).

So the ‘black ops’ is the uni-du jour for Maryland, their latest attempt to candy up the work clothes. It won’t be their last. What better way to honor the legacy of the late, great Darrell Royal than to put a version of his wonderful wordplay into our own lexicon. Candy up boys.

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50 Years Ago This Week

50 Years Ago…This Weekend

Last year, Rick Pearson took us “back in time” to bring us his look at the featured television college football match-up from 50 years ago. (If you’re not familiar with it, this was the inaugural post of “50 Years Ago” from last year — after that, it became a recurring feature on UW for the remainder of the season). Last year, Rick looked at the 1961 season, and fortunately for us, he “uni tracked” the games from 1962 as well, documenting the game via his “kid cards”. Each week this fall, he’ll do the same, again.


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Nov. 17, 1962…Minnesota 7, Purdue 6 at Minnesota on CBS

I know you’re shocked—shocked—to see that Minnesota actually once was a national drawing card and appear in the weekend’s only TV game. But, being Number One in the country will do that for you. In Minnesota this week, because of the special network telecast of Gophers-Iowa last week, we saw two of the teams we saw a week ago…in the same uniforms. Gophers’ home, Boilermakers’ road. The final score tells us the game wasn’t exactly an Oregon vs. USC track meet….Forest Farmer (shown here with the black helmets worn through 1960 or so; I’m sure Helmet Hut has the answer) never played pro football…Neither did Ray Zitzloff, who went on to run a flying service based at a suburban Minneapolis Airport.

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Thanks Rick! Great job with that as always.

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Uni Tweaks Concepts

We have another new set of tweaks, er…concepts today. After discussion with a number of readers, it’s probably more apropos to call most of the reader submissions “concepts” rather than tweaks. So that’s that.

So if you’ve concept for any sport, or just a tweak or wholesale revision, send them my way.

Please do try to keep your descriptions to ~50 words (give or take) per image — if you have three uniform concepts in one image, then obviously, you can go a little over, but no novels, OK? OK!. You guys have usually been good with keeping the descriptions pretty short, and I thank you for that.

Like the colorizations, I’m going to run these as inline pics — click on each one to enlarge.

And so, lets begin:


First up is Matt Berning with 2 for the league where they play for pay:

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seahawks+concept+2 - Matt Berning


Here’s a Giants and Seahawks concept. I’m planning on doing the whole league so, I might have more this week.

Matt Berning

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Next up is David St. Clair, with a political matchup of sorts:

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Paul’s ticker on September 19th had talked of how New Yorker cartoonist Barry Blitt had re-imagined the two major political parties as baseball teams and so I got to thinking. How would that look Uni-wise ? As I began work on the uniforms I got a wild idea, why not re-imagine the whole thing. I present for the Uni Watchers’ scrutiny. . . The 2012 Presidential Series Match-up. 7-game series in Boston (Republicans home field) and Chicago (South side, of course) between the two parties to decide who runs the country for the next 4-years. I used a lot of elements from a number of clubs such as, the Athletics elephant and Pirates numeral font on the sleeve patch. I may even turn this into a DIY project for Nov.


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And we close today with Roger Morrow, who has a tweak or three for the Rays:

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rays away - Roger Morrow

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I have been a Rays fan since their start. They have had only on good run on uniforms and that was right before the name change. This concept is based off their current uniforms with some tweeking. I would like for them to be more tradition with the city name on the road unis.

Roger Morrow

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And that’s it for today. Back with more next time.

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“Benchies” first appeared at U-W in 2008, and has been a Saturday & Sunday feature here for the past two years.

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Okay, okay, this IS kind of an inside joke…


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Robert’s Rules of Rups 2

I’m back again with Comrade Marshall who has some new news on the stirrup front lines.

Here’s Comrade:

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Greetings Stirrup Comrades!

Yada-yada, there are some new offerings on the site due in Chicago in a week, check it if you want, you don’t need to get anything from me to participate in what I am about to talk about. But I am here to reiterate what I said last week about Stirrup Friday, and the give away stirrups.

Now I love the standard Stirrup Friday shots, especially when they have funny shoes, sanis over the top with zubaz, getting ready to bike to work, or show someone in right proper office attire.

And I know everyone has warnings against the proper aesthetic hanging in their offices, but I know the spirit of stirrup Fridays out-ways the iron fist of our oppressors. Stirrup Friday gives you an excuse to be awesome, but really, it is more of an abstract idea to be enjoyed any day, and for any reason. and like I have always said, you need not take a snap-shot, it isn’t something you need flaunt, but something like the ladies and their fancy underroos, that can be your little secret.

That being said, I want to encourage people to really push the envelope in their photos from time to time. and if you manage to make me snicker and understand you get the concept, I will send you a free pair of UW stirrups, something of a Holy Grail since I don’t ever sell them.

I have asked Phil not to run any “competition” shots this week to allow for contemplation, and it does not mean you shouldn’t send the usual in, Comrades — I still love that. I am just hoping to jump start some fun, and yes, some photos from my end are coming post haste, taking what I hope to be a doozy Thursday. But let’s see if I can get your hamsters running on the wheel:

• Maybe you went to fantasy campplay ball … or your kid plays ball.

• Maybe you had a kick arse wedding party … are good at Photoshop, or are just every day awesome.

• Maybe, and I looove this, stirrup Friday falls on Halloween so you not only dress up as Fred from Scooby-Do to complete your family theme, but you ALSO hike em up and show you are also celebrating stirrup Friday for a pixture, HA! or …

• Maybe you just have a good abstract idea like telling your roommate to take off because your predisposed.

So I don’t want to limit you, just give you some things to think about until the UW stirrups come in.

From each according their stirrvp, to each according their strype.
Comrade Marshall

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Thank you Comrade. OK, fellow stirrup nation…time to show your rups…

Stirrup Friday

Stirrup Fridays…

Because we love the stirrup here at Uni Watch, this section is devoted to those of us who sport the beautiful hose on Fridays — a trend popularized many years ago by Robert P. Marshall, III. For many of us, it’s become a bit of an obsession, but a harmless one — a reflection of our times. Where we once had Friday ties, which has been replaced by Casual Friday — we now have Stirrup Fridays. It’s an endearingly simple concept — no matter where you work (or even if you don’t) — break out a fresh pair of rups to compliment (or clash with) your Friday attire.

A relatively small set this week — I’m counting on you Uni Watchers to break out the ‘rups for your Thanksgiving get togethers, now … here we go (click on each thumbnail for a glorious, full size image):

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James Poisso - StL Browns

James Poisso:


These stirrups might be StL Browns stirrups, but they are my Thanksgiving stirrups today!

James Poisso

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John Kimmerlein - Phillies

John K.:


Wearing modern Phillies today to honor my son’s little league team this past Spring. When we found out what team he was on I checked with RPM and ordered the last pair of ’48 Phillies that he had. I also looked around elsewhere on line to see what might be available. I found these on e-bay and believe that I was the only bidder. Until they arrived we did not know if they would fit me or my son. I alternated between modern and ’48 ‘rups all year, and neither seemed to bring better or worse luck. It was a good bunch of kids and they had a lot of fun, and did well in the end-of-season tourney.

Happy Thanksgiving to all next week–still debating which stirrups go best with turkey.

John K

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Thomas Qualls - Braves

Thomas Qualls:


Gettin’ a little house work done this fine Friday evening.


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And that ends today’s look at Stirrup Friday — all of you who participate, send me your pics and a brief (~50 words) description of their relevance, and I’ll run ’em here on Saturday (and sometimes Sunday too!).

If you’re not a member of Stirrup Nation and want to join, just visit Comrade Marshall’s house of hose (and you can see the available selections here) or if you have any questions about the availability of stirrups, drop him a line at Here’s what’s NEW this week:

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That will do it for this fine Third Saturday in November. Enjoy the games today, for next weekend we have some huge games (with some more candying up, to be sure).

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“I wouldn’t worry about what kids like in uniforms. Kids grow out of these sort of things. For instance, when I was a kid I liked soccer and the NBA.”
–Scott Merzbach

Comments (90)

    Roger’s tweaks are not too bad. But the Rays already have a striped sock pattern (either not always worn or not always visible) which is better. In any event, whatever stripe pattern they use should be used on all their uniforms (not just the home whites, as Roger seems to suggest).

    Also, using the full team logo as the away cap logo is not very practical (the embroidery required to pull it off might not turn out very well). The TB monogram is a perfectly fine cap logo; why not stick with it?

    Using the Sunray logo on the BP cap is a good idea.

    Bland. Milquetoast. Uninspiring.

    These are the words which I think of whenever I see the Rays uniform. There’s a sameness about it, too much like the Dodgers and Royals. The green/blue uniform set was better, when the franchise was known as the Devil Rays.

    From a visual context, the term rays does lend itself to more creative possibilities than the conservative route which was taken.

    There’s a difference between clean, classic & simple and clean, boring & simple. The Rays is the latter. It has zero hint of any original thought or human touch. It looks like it was made on a computer (it was), looks like it was typed out (it was) and is the most generic uni in baseball (it is).

    I don’t know, concealed… I think the new ‘Stros uniforms (excluding the BP jersey) just jumped into the lead for most generic.

    Astros ‘new’ caps are all good & the set at least hints at tradition. Rays TB cap is uninspired – it doesn’t even interlock. Rays are on their 3rd completely different uniform set (within 11 seasons 1998-2008)& have an identity crisis. Are they the Sun Rays or the Devil Rays? Are they black & purple or forest green or navy?

    I’d hate to think the current set will be considered a classic many years from now by Rays fans because they’ve had some great teams with it (458-352 .565%)

    Bowl Season starts today

    1. Uteck Bowl: Acadia at Lavel
    2. Mitchell Bowl: Calgary at McMaster

    These are the winners of the play-offs in the four university conferences. What a novel system,

    I have just started watching more canadian university football ths year and I have to say that I am pretty impressed. I would put the ending of that Queens/Guelph playoff game against any of the great NCAA finishes I’ve seen lately.

    Just been a bad year for WLU though:(

    You should see Universite de Montreal’s unis from when they beat powerhouse Laval. the all grey getup was pretty awful, as was the logo.

    From a uni perspective, it’s a day of red

    Laval, Calgary and Acadia, all wear a bright shade of red, Mc Master wears maroon. I guess being Canadian college football the dominance of red is not surprising. All the uniforms are pretty well ugly to be honest.

    The equivalent to this play-off system would be as if

    1. The SEC
    2. Big 10
    3. Big 8
    4. Pac 12

    got together to and nominated 4 teams each, the first two rounds of the play-offs would be within conference. Obviously this works in Canada, because there are only 4 conferences, but if these conferences wanted to make sure they received the most money, well…….

    Ignoring the whole money issue (yeah, I know, good luck with that) there’s 120 NCAA division 1 teams. All you need is 10 12-team conferences. 10 conference champions and 2 wildcards – 12 teams, giving you a playoff structure that basically mirrors the NFL. The playoffs however, do NOT need to be neutral site games. So you run through your 3 weeks of playoff games during that period where there’s normally no NCAA games at all… then you have the championship game and all of the random pointless bowl games can still happen anyway, because they’re already random and pointless. Let’s face it, every bowl game that isn’t the National Championship is already just an exhibition game.

    I’d look no further than FCS. Somehow they managed to have solved the riddle of a playoff system years ago.

    Fully agree, the moment they established a championship game,it became a play-off system, a play-off system of 2 teams, making as you say, every other game meaningless. Now instead of a play-off involving 2 teams, it involves 4 teams, which if possible, makes the rest of the Bowls even more meaningless – such a wasted opportunity.(I’ve said this before, but IMO, there is no way, based on the way Football is ingrained in America’s fabric (Like Hockey is for Canadians), that March Madness should be a bigger event than Bowls/Slight Play-off system.

    To involve all NCAA -1 teams, you could group the conferences (geographically) for the initial rounds

    1. Big Ten/Big East
    2. SEC/ACC
    3. Big Eight/MAC/Sunbelt
    4. Pac 12/Whatever.

    I know people hate that green the Seahawks use, but i think that alternate looks good in that template.

    “Candy up” is a good insult…until kids take it and run with it. “I hope we candy up our uniforms this week. That would be tight!”

    despite how darrell royal meant it, i wasn’t even thinking it would be an insult…i just thought it was the perfect way to describe “fancying” up the uni, or deviating from the standard

    im sure the kids would love to candy up their unis every week…the double entendre would be great tho

    I like the Presidential Series. A LOT. Brings baseball back to its roots when all MLB teams wore red, white, & blue. Sure, it may take the democracy out of us voting on a President, but hey we technically don’t vote for President anyways. (I’m stopping right there with the politics. Just stating a fact with the electoral college.) Hopefully, we don’t have any ringers playing on each team. I’d say go for it as a DIY project David. Would love to see the finished product.

    Well, I wouldn’t want the actual election settled on the diamond. But I love the spirit of David’s concepts. In fact, his Nats/Obama mashup logo would be a decent logo for the actual Democratic Party. Some criticism that’s meant to be constructive, and in no way a denigration of David’s very fun work:

    Two navy caps is one too many. Either move the Democrats to royal blue, which is more in keeping with the party’s actual current logos and branding, or make one a red team and the other a blue team. Might even be fun to switch them up from the post-2000 red/blue consensus!

    Both scripts are too flat and horizontal. For the GOP roadies, I’d say go with a more overtly battleship-block lettering, maybe even with white drop-shadows like on the hull of a ship, but arched across the chest. For the Dems, I’d look to a script that more closely resembles either the “In Congress” bit atop the Declaration of Independence or the “We the people” bit at the start of the Constituttion, either of which would function nicely as a straight horizontal. And then echo the D from the script on the cap.

    Oh, and how about a big check mark, like on a ballot, instead of the little White House in the series logo?

    Keep in mind that these suggestions come from someone who’s quite jealous he didn’t think of the idea and probably couldn’t have done such a good job with it if he had!

    An awesome idea. Would love to see a “GOP” alternate for the Republicans (akin to the alternate “DC” logo for the Nats).

    Yeah I would have put the Dems in royal blue or black/silver/gold/teal/purple & made them very non-traditional looking & the GOP team in a red cap.

    And why Boston? I’m pretty sure Boston is heavily Democrat.

    Boston is the “home town” of the 2012 Republican nominee, just as Chicago is home to the Democratic nominee. If the cities were going to represent the parties themselves, rather than the particular candidates in the given election, then it’d have to be either Ripon, WI or Springfield, IL for the GOP and Carlottesville, VA or Nashville, TN for the Democrats. But each state actually leans toward the other party these days, so sticking with the candidates’ home towns probably makes the most sense.

    OK, that was weird. As soon as I submitted that comment, the font changed back to what it was. I swear it had been narrower when I was reading it. Going to take a nap now.

    Nice looking game there today. Those black pants look much better than the all white look.

    I love the ignore-the-bass-line hand claps.
    When Rusty Bullets tangled himself in the mic cable at the end… genius.

    They basically swapped their standard shirts for ones with camo on them, wearing khakis (no full fatigues).

    Today roughly marked the 70th Anniversary of Clint Castleberry’s only season on the Flats, he finished the highest a Freshman ever finished (3rd) in the Heisman up to that point, and for sometime after. Then enlisted in the Army Air Forces with plans to return to Tech following the end of the War. Sadly his plane took off 11/7/1944 and was never seen again, he was classified as KNB. His #19 is the only number that will ever be retired for football. His short time at Tech and the sacrifice he made were commemorated at halftime today, in addition to the various military tributes

    And unless they fixed it since the pictures the Terps still don’t have the flag done right on this uniform. Great…

    Maybe it’s because we’re so close to Thanksgiving but in a weird way I like that turkey head. If it was just that and it was on a hat or the jersey sleeve it would look OK. But this on the helmet? Not so much.

    wow. that is epic awful. At the end of the season I hope they fire that guy that green lighted all the monstrosities that vt have tried this season.

    I still hate the all white look on the road but that Harvard-Yale game is a nice looking game. Nicely done by the Ivy League. IMO Penn State needs to look at Yale to see how to use those colors but then again I despise the Shittany Lions.

    Regarding concepts: I was wondering why someone might include a makers mark (the swoosh, for example) on his or her concept? This is not directed at Mr. Berning’s today, necessarily. I’ve seen it on other’s concepts, too.

    Unless one is designing specifically for the maker, why would one sully his or her vision, creation, with that ubiquitous, corporate mark?

    I appreciate the work, the creativity, the effort, the bravery of putting one’s concept out there, but seeing that corporate stamp on it is, I don’t know… disheartening.

    For authenticity sake. I understand what you’re saying, as I often forgo makers marks on my concepts, but some people want their uniform concepts to look as real as possible.

    That’s called realism. If Nike’s making the uniforms for the league, then a uniform designed for a team within that league is going to have a Nike swoosh on it, so…

    Agreed. It’s not like Nike came up with the concept. If anything, makers marks detract rather than enhance a concept.

    Personally I think concepts should be on a clean canvas without any distracting enhancements so the work alone can stand out on its own merits. I remember seeing a great Cleveland baseball contest entry but it had this glaring “fancy iron railing” border around each individual uniform in an effort to amplify the concept.

    League logos is about as far as I’ll go and even those I find distracting.

    Last night the Reading Phillies announced their branding overhaul:
    the Reading Fightin’ Phils

    This is seriously bizarre. The home and blue alternate uniforms are acceptable, minus the side panels on the blue and the gigantic pointless sleeve patches on both. The Fightins script could grow on me. Then you scroll down past the hats and What the fuck? They need to scrap EVERYTHING about the away uniforms. Everything is just wrong.

    I just saw the reveal from the Creamer site. Wow…

    Between our new RailRiders and now this it’s been a sad week for baseball in Eastern Pa. The faux-flannel is actually pretty cool and nice to see making it’s way up from the NCAA levels. The Phils in Philly can learn something from this. A logo should be on the sleeve and the numbers should be on the front of the uniform. I can take or leave the new Fightins name and the ostrich but the hot dog and the whole “Baseballtown” thing is terrible. Take that away and go with Reading and it’s acceptable. Otherwise. Wow…

    I really hope that some other Eastern League team puts together “Baseballville” home unis for a series against Reading, so we can see a truly ridiculous matchup.

    If you ask people where “Baseballtown” is, nobody outside of Reading would answer Reading, and probably not too many people inside the town. That’ll still be the case a year from now.

    And if the you’re looking for a distinct new identity, and the best you can come up with is based on a goofy hot dog vendor, maybe you should just continue to identify with the longtime parent team.

    I like the work they did on the Iron Pigs and other past projects but lately I’m really starting to despise Brandiose.

    When I first saw the ostrich logo I though tit was supposed to be a plucked chicken or goose running away from getting cooked… I swear, that was my first thought. Then I saw the hot dog w/mustard cannon. Wow.

    Fuckin’ ugly. Just fugly to the bone.

    I’m still calling the Reading Phillies, thankyouverymuch.

    about the terrapin uniforms…I don,t really care about their look one way of another, but to me this black ops and white ops b.s. is just second rate copying of things Nike have been doing for years. Other than the ‘pride’ unis, I’ve never seen Under Armour actually do something new or groundbreaking in their design. Not too sure I would want to be associated to the whole pride thing either. Its inevitable that when trying new design ideas and trying to push boundaries they will have some ups and downs, it goes with the turf. However, it’s their only real contribution to design in football. Most of their other efforts (South Carolina, I’m looking at you), look like shit and aren’t in the least bit creative (anthracite jersey with white helmet to name but one horrible failure).

    The Maryland bball uni for the Brooklyn game was pretty cool.

    everyone’s been copying oregon for years, not just UMd, although they’re the most blatant about it

    it’s a decent looking uni and a good looking game

    if you’re going to candy up, the least you can do is wear a good looking uni

    Can’t disagree with any of the above. Oregon is the test subject from which the mainstream and trends are created, that’s a given…but given that Under Armour like to play make belief at being cutting edge, it would be interesting for them to use their little pet project more creatively.

    As I pointed out, the Pride Uni is the only real new thing that they have actually contributed to Uni design. I will, however, add a positive, which is that although the pride Unis are both horrible, they brought back the design in the ops uniforms and shown that the idea itself is pretty good if executed properly (which is alot like Oregon, push the boundaries and then bring it back in order to create something new and nice).

    And I will amend the above statement…they also designed the Tortoise helmet, which they seemed to have decided wasn’t worth bringing back…I’d like to see that come back with better execution.

    Beat me to it!!! Turned on my tv and was like WOAH! LOVE IT!!!

    Great classic looks on both sides of the ball. We better see this on the 5 & 1.

    3 things about this game..

    1.) I missed the beginning — did the road team (USC) get a penalty at the beginning for wearing color, or is it legal now?

    2.) Some of UCLA players have ‘F5’ on the back of their helmet to the right of the number. It appears to be some sort of a merit sticker, as a lot of them don’t have it, but I saw one with three of them. F5? Fans of the fifth function key?

    3.) The UCLA offensive co-ordinator seems to have a Boston Red Sox “B” on his jacket.

    Its legal now, as long as the 2 teams and the referees agree that the uniform colors have enough contrast.

    UCLA uses that Red Sox font for the “B” on their baseball hats, I think they’ve used it for quite awhile, probably decades.

    Watching the Maryland / FSU game on TV it was really hard to see the helmet effects, partly because I think they weren’t pronounced enough (coulda gone with a bit more grey I guess), but more because of the huge shadow that was on the field. At multiple times during the game, it took a second for the TV feed to adjust to the changes in light and the UM players looked to disappear. Very weird.

    A seven year old kid with ADD designed the Reading Phillies uniforms. “I want dark blue hats with uh,uh, an eagle on it…no an ostrich, a mad ostrich. Ok, the shirts will be white with red stripes and and and a dark blue one with white on the sides. Wait, that’s not it. I want another hat that’s blue like the sky with another ostrich…no, with a baseball player, but not a person…a hot dog playing baseball. And gray shirts and also black ones too with yellow and sky blue…and they can say uhhhhh…’Baseball’ on them. Oh wait, no, I want it to say ‘Baseballtown’. That would be a funny name for a place.” And that’s how Reading got their new uniforms.

    After that debacle playing storm trooper a few weeks ago it’s nice to see the Ducks are back in their proper school colors, Silver & Black.

    If it’s Alabama and ND in the championship game I’ll be playing xbox that night. 2 of my least favorite teams. Joy.

    Hope for a ND loss and wait and see what happens with the 1-loss anarchy.

    If that happens I hope Oregon gets in, but could see FSU filling that spot

    What’s really ticking me off is that they lost 2 games this year. Stanford scored and ND had a violation (2 guys on the field during a play wearing the same number) during the Pitt missed field goal….

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