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Back in mid-January I wrote an ESPN column about Todd Asselin, the KC Chiefs fan whose prototype helmet concept was shown on a national game broadcast. As I wrote in that column, “Fans send unsolicited uniform and logo designs to teams all the time, but it’s unheard of for one of those submissions to make it onto the air.”

Or maybe it’s more common than I realized. In 1993, 19-year-old Randy Miller whipped up a new design for the Colts and sent it to a local Indianapolis sports show hosted by Mark Patrick, who featured it on the air. Okay, so that’s not quite the same thing as being showcased on a network broadcast, but it’s still pretty cool. Take a look:

I love how Patrick talks about having made uniform drawings himself when he was a kid. Also interesting that he wanted to Colts to try blue pants — which is exactly what they did two years later.

As for Randy Miller, the guy who drew up those tweaks, here are his thoughts on the matter:

Seventeen years later, I hate what I did back then. I am now, FIRMLY with the belief that the Colts have a uniform you should simply not touch. Back then, though, I was younger and the team stunk, so I guess I was just trying to create a new image that wasn’t associated with losing.

A couple of notes to consider:

• I was big into the throwback NY Jets uni’s at the time and modeled the jerseys after them. This is well before the Jets switched back to a retro style.

• Though now I’m pretty much opposed to dark-colored pants on football uniforms, here I went with a blue pant for the road, as well as a blue facemask for the helmet. The Colts actually adopted this two seasons later, but the pants didn’t last long — thank god!

• At first glance, you might think the horse is a direct copy of the SMU/Stampeders/Mustang horse logo, but actually the angle is different and I modeled it after a picture I found in a very old historical picture book on the Civil War. The horse in the book had a rider with a sword in battle. I obviously dropped the rider.

I think Mark Patrick thought I was a bit younger than 19. I never mentioned to him how old I was when I wrote to him (didn’t think it mattered). I had first sent another copy of the design to the Colts, with no reply. The Colts’ set probably went straight to the trash, but Mark returned his set to me. I long since lost it.

Good stuff. May all you tweakers out there end up with your designs being shown on the teevee at some point.

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Oink: If you like meat even a fraction as much as I do, you really ought to snap up the deal currently being offered by Heritage Foods USA: 15 pork chops for $90 — and that includes shipping. A total bargain, especially given that heritage-breed pork is about 1,732 times tastier than factory pork (and also better for the planet, good for small farmers, blah-blah-blah). And in case you’re wondering whether I’m putting my money where my mouth is on this one, my shipment’s arriving tomorrow.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Phil and I had a great time yesterday at the Plainfield Curling Club, where we got personalized instruction from Dean Gemmell, the man behind the greatest (only?) curling podcast (you can see him in the video at the bottom of this page). He was a great teacher, and we were both getting the hang of it by the end of our 90-minute session. Very satisfying! ”¦ Tim Brulia‘s “White at Home in the NFL” listing has been updated to reflect the full 2009 season. ”¦ Yesterday I linked to this photo and asked what occasion might have brought these players together. Charlie Frank thinks it was from a Southern Christian Leadership Conference benefit game staged in March of 1970. Here’s a photo from that event. ”¦ R.A. Dickey has been wearing stirrups in Mets camp (with thanks to Terence Kearns). ”¦ Follow-up to yesterday’s note about the Colts adding a third jersey next season: A little birdie now tells me that they’ll be going with a 1954 throwback with a blue helmet. ”¦ And the news of the Packers adding a throwback next season appears to be more of a rumor (with thanks to Ray Barrington). ”¦ Two good auction finds by Bruce Menard a 1940 Philly A’s prototype and a rare 1962 A’s road cap. ”¦ You footwear geeks out there should enjoy these Utah kicking shoes that Under Armour made for the Utes’ bowl game. ”¦ And for you sneakerheads, here’s the new Nike Hyperdunk Kobe Bryant Aston Martin Edition. ”¦ “Good story out of Columbia, Missiouri, about a freshman who won the state wrestling championship and wears his uncle’s headgear from the early ’90s, inscribed with the years he himself won,” writes Allison Kleiber. “He now has permission to add his own championship year to the headgear since he won. The headgear has also been worn by his brothers in the last few years.” ”¦ Ryan Connelly notes that Alex Ovechkin has personalized hockey pants. ”¦ Check out all the cool DIY jerseys Jeff Barak has made. ”¦ Nike has found an annoying new place to put a swoosh: low on UNC baseball’s left thigh. And yes, the jersey looks like shit too (with thanks to Chris Warfford). ”¦ Check out this shot of Mark McGwire carrying Odibbe McDowell around during the 1984 Olympics. Nice striped stirrups, no? (Cool find by Larry Granillo). ”¦ The Twins have scrapped their pinstriped road pants this year, but apparently they’re still wearing them for Florida workouts. And speaking of Joe Mauer, he was catching without a helmet for part of yesterday’s drills (big thanks to Jonathon Binet). ”¦ Check out this completely awesome vintage curling sweater, complete with amazing patches. A smidge to big for me, alas (great find by Jason Bernard, who also spotted this odd Penguins jersey). ”¦ Matt Lesser sent along photos of airplanes with team liveries based on the Falcons, Colts, Ravens, Cardinals, Panthers, Eagles, and Steelers. ”¦ Hey, you want some grayhound racing silks? Okay, you probably don’t, but here’s a set of them anyway (fascinating find by Roger Faso). ”¦ I obtained Tom Dempsey’s contact info from the Saints and have sent him an e-mail asking if he could tell us more about this photo. No response yet. Meanwhile, Larry Wiederecht has posted a video in which you can see Dempsey kicking for the Eagles and using a shoe with a metal-plated toe, just like the one shown in the photo. Black shoes in the video, though, as opposed to white in the photo. ”¦ Current issue of The New Yorker has a great photo of Tommie Smith and John Carlos wearing the same gloves they wore on the medal podium in Mexico City. ”¦ Ryan Atkinson notes that Nebraska-Omaha has what might be the nation’s largest mid-court logo, stretching almost from one three-point line to the other. Interesting to see that there’s no circle in the center, too. ”¦ Here’s something really awesome: a Topps negative in mid-airbrush! (Great find by Jon Helf.) ”¦ Norway’s king (yes, they have a king) may end up wearing the crazy Norwegian curling pants (with thanks to Jim Vilk). ”¦ Maker’s Mark is putting out a special bottle honoring the 20th anniversary of the Reds’ 1990 World Series win (with thanks to Jerry Wolper). ”¦ Coupla Olympic hockey notes from Chaz Noerenberg, who got screen shots of Norway winger Mats Zuccarello Aasen’s magnificent NOB and Patrick Kane’s patriotic mouthguard.

 
  
 
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    I am sure that UNO has a circle in the middle of their court – it is an NCAA rule and they wouldn’t be allowed to play without it.

    The rule doesn’t state how wide the line has to be though, and so I bet it is a “pinstripe” line that is really only able to be seen by the players on the court.

    “The Twins have scrapped their pinstriped road pants this year, but apparently they’re still wearing them for Florida workouts. And speaking of Joe Mauer, he was catching without a helmet for part of yesterday’s drills (big thanks to Jonathon Binet).”

    Those pins don’t look grey to me, and if they are not white it seems more likely they are the new creme pins.

    “Nike has found an annoying new place to put a swoosh: low on UNC baseball’s left thigh.”

    The US Men’s Curlers are also wearing the Nike swoosh on their left legs, but down just below the knee link

    [quote comment=”379112″]The US Men’s Curlers are also wearing the Nike swoosh on their left legs, but down just below the knee link

    that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in these retro beauties

    [quote comment=”379111″]”The Twins have scrapped their pinstriped road pants this year, but apparently they’re still wearing them for Florida workouts. And speaking of Joe Mauer, he was catching without a helmet for part of yesterday’s drills (big thanks to Jonathon Binet).”

    Those pins don’t look grey to me, and if they are not white it seems more likely they are the new creme pins.[/quote]

    Definitely grey pants:

    link

    link

    Can someone explain to me why JOE D was wearing a PHILTHY-delphia A’s uni in that picture with Campy and all them all stars in Dodger Stadium in 1970? (With is his Number no less!) I assume it would be b/c he was a SF Seal and the A’s were new in his hometown?

    [quote comment=”379116″][quote comment=”379111″]”The Twins have scrapped their pinstriped road pants this year, but apparently they’re still wearing them for Florida workouts. And speaking of Joe Mauer, he was catching without a helmet for part of yesterday’s drills (big thanks to Jonathon Binet).”

    Those pins don’t look grey to me, and if they are not white it seems more likely they are the new creme pins.[/quote]

    Definitely grey pants:

    link

    link
    I’ll concede, and stand corrected. But, the Mauer worn pins don’t look nearly as grey as Gardenhire’s

    [quote comment=”379119″]Can someone explain to me why JOE D was wearing a PHILTHY-delphia A’s uni in that picture with Campy and all them all stars in Dodger Stadium in 1970? (With is his Number no less!) I assume it would be b/c he was a SF Seal and the A’s were new in his hometown?[/quote]

    joe dimaggio was the OAKLAND a’s executive VP and coach from 1968-69

    remember this gorgeous photo which appears on UW from time to time?

    you might recognize some of the players with him: john donaldson, reggie, rick monday, sal bando and joe rudi

    Ichiro is STILL wearing those crazy biker shorts. He first sported them in Japan while working out, and they continue to be worn in Arizona at the Mariners’ facility.

    Yikes. It’s like he stole some little kid’s Zubaz.

    link

    I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?
    I love looking at uniforms and imagining what would look better. Olympic apparel is pretty hot right now. Hindsight is 20/20 but if I were to do it all over again I would definately get into the unform industry and would not have allowed some of todays current uni’s to be used. I won’t list them because there are a ton!

    WooHoo for Curling!

    I told you that you would have a great time. Plainfield is a great group of people. They are the self-proclaimed “Delta House of Curling”

    I will be there, in mid-April, for the BON-SQUEAL!
    link

    I would rather swallow my own toungue than take a sip from that “special bottle.”

    worst world series ever.

    [quote comment=”379126″]I would rather swallow my own toungue than take a sip from that “special bottle.”

    worst world series ever.[/quote]
    More for me.

    [quote comment=”379122″]Ichiro is STILL wearing those crazy biker shorts. He first sported them in Japan while working out, and they continue to be worn in Arizona at the Mariners’ facility.

    Yikes. It’s like he stole some little kid’s Zubaz.

    link

    Don’t forget that he is on his own time, so he’ll wear something that appeals to him. Don’t forget his batting gloves from 1996.
    link

    nice look at the Reds sleeve patches on picture 17 of the Yahoo spring training slideshow. Also, the Dodgers and Yankees looked like only half the players/coaches were wearing the new BP caps while the rest were wearing the “normal” caps.

    The jackets for the dog racing are for the former race track in Portland called Multnomah Kennel Club or Murray Kemp Greyhound Park.

    My grandmother used to live in the area and would bet on the dogs and the jackets were always on the programs that she would have.

    Sadly, the track closed about 5 or 6 years ago. It is still standing, but only hosts a flea market.

    link

    [quote comment=”379124″]I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?[/quote]

    Considering it’s no longer the anniversary (or, more properly, the “50th season” for those teams), I would think it unlikely. Throwbacks may very well continue to be part of various NFL teams’ uniform sets in 2010, we’ll have to wait and see. But no one knows at the moment.

    In other news, anyone who spent any time in Indianapolis in the time period of that video clip is cringing at seeing Mark Patrick again.

    “Nike has found an annoying new place to put a swoosh: low on UNC baseball’s left thigh. And yes, the jersey looks like shit too”

    Know what else that jersey looks like? The underarm panel looks exactly like a vertically-oriented swoosh while the batter is in mid-swing!!! coincidence? doubt it.

    [quote comment=”379120″][quote comment=”379116″][quote comment=”379111″]”The Twins have scrapped their pinstriped road pants this year, but apparently they’re still wearing them for Florida workouts. And speaking of Joe Mauer, he was catching without a helmet for part of yesterday’s drills (big thanks to Jonathon Binet).”

    Those pins don’t look grey to me, and if they are not white it seems more likely they are the new creme pins.[/quote]

    Definitely grey pants:

    link

    link
    I’ll concede, and stand corrected. But, the Mauer worn pins don’t look nearly as grey as Gardenhire’s[/quote]

    They look gray.
    White in shadow doesn’t go toward gray.
    It goes toward light blue.
    (Study thousands of photos over more years than you care to count and you learn such things. LOL)

    I doubt they’ll break out the new creams in spring training. Not saying the won’t, but wearing the gray pins is a pretty good sign they’re saving the new stuff for the regular season.

    —Ricko

    hey, when did the reds sign chris rock? link

    I know, it is chapman, as a long-suffering reds fan I may even switch to drinking maker’s mark …

    [quote comment=”379134″][quote comment=”379124″]I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?[/quote]

    Considering it’s no longer the anniversary (or, more properly, the “50th season” for those teams), I would think it unlikely. Throwbacks may very well continue to be part of various NFL teams’ uniform sets in 2010, we’ll have to wait and see. But no one knows at the moment.

    In other news, anyone who spent any time in Indianapolis in the time period of that video clip is cringing at seeing Mark Patrick again.[/quote]

    I think it’s safe to assume that the Jets and Bills will probably use theirs again, since they’d been using them prior to last year as well. Beyond that, I’d say it’s rather doubtful for any of the other teams.

    [quote comment=”379138″][quote comment=”379134″][quote comment=”379124″]I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?[/quote]

    Considering it’s no longer the anniversary (or, more properly, the “50th season” for those teams), I would think it unlikely. Throwbacks may very well continue to be part of various NFL teams’ uniform sets in 2010, we’ll have to wait and see. But no one knows at the moment.

    In other news, anyone who spent any time in Indianapolis in the time period of that video clip is cringing at seeing Mark Patrick again.[/quote]

    I think it’s safe to assume that the Jets and Bills will probably use theirs again, since they’d been using them prior to last year as well. Beyond that, I’d say it’s rather doubtful for any of the other teams.[/quote]

    Chargers, too, right?
    (Honest question)

    —Ricko

    Someone on the crew of Mike & Mike this a.m. was wearing what appeared to be green teeshirt with a white Whalers logo on the back. Was almost impossible to miss it.

    Well, for people like us, anyway.

    —Ricko

    For the heck of it…
    Jayson Stark’s trivia question from this a.m….

    Only five managers in MLB history have managed the same team for 20 seasons or more.

    Name them.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”379139″][quote comment=”379138″][quote comment=”379134″][quote comment=”379124″]I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?[/quote]

    Considering it’s no longer the anniversary (or, more properly, the “50th season” for those teams), I would think it unlikely. Throwbacks may very well continue to be part of various NFL teams’ uniform sets in 2010, we’ll have to wait and see. But no one knows at the moment.

    In other news, anyone who spent any time in Indianapolis in the time period of that video clip is cringing at seeing Mark Patrick again.[/quote]

    I think it’s safe to assume that the Jets and Bills will probably use theirs again, since they’d been using them prior to last year as well. Beyond that, I’d say it’s rather doubtful for any of the other teams.[/quote]

    Chargers, too, right?
    (Honest question)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I’d say no, due to the powder blue third that shares the template with the primaries.

    [quote comment=”379141″]For the heck of it…
    Jayson Stark’s trivia question from this a.m….

    Only five managers in MLB history have managed the same team for 20 seasons or more.

    Name them.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well, Bobby Cox, obviously. And Connie Mack. John McGraw with the Giants. But I can’t think of the other two. Did Tommy Lasorda make it to 20?

    [quote comment=”379143″][quote comment=”379139″][quote comment=”379138″][quote comment=”379134″][quote comment=”379124″]I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?[/quote]

    Considering it’s no longer the anniversary (or, more properly, the “50th season” for those teams), I would think it unlikely. Throwbacks may very well continue to be part of various NFL teams’ uniform sets in 2010, we’ll have to wait and see. But no one knows at the moment.

    In other news, anyone who spent any time in Indianapolis in the time period of that video clip is cringing at seeing Mark Patrick again.[/quote]

    I think it’s safe to assume that the Jets and Bills will probably use theirs again, since they’d been using them prior to last year as well. Beyond that, I’d say it’s rather doubtful for any of the other teams.[/quote]

    Chargers, too, right?
    (Honest question)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I’d say no, due to the powder blue third that shares the template with the primaries.[/quote]

    Thanks, that’s why I asked.
    But they do have that power blue throwback on hand from wearings prior to this past season. Just not room for it in the prescribed NFL jersey platform.

    —Ricko

    Question about NFL throwbacks/alternates. Are teams stuck with their “3rd” uniforms, or limited in how long they can use them. This comment was made in the article/video about the probable Packers throwback.
    “Murphy said the team is now looking to have something that it can use for several years, but there are NFL rules.
    “You can have a third jersey, whether it’s a different color or a historical throwback, and you have a 5-year window. Those are some of the details we really need to work out,” said Murphy.” link

    [quote comment=”379144″][quote comment=”379141″]For the heck of it…
    Jayson Stark’s trivia question from this a.m….

    Only five managers in MLB history have managed the same team for 20 seasons or more.

    Name them.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well, Bobby Cox, obviously. And Connie Mack. John McGraw with the Giants. But I can’t think of the other two. Did Tommy Lasorda make it to 20?[/quote]

    Yes.
    And Connie Mack was the one Greenie missed.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”379146″]Question about NFL throwbacks/alternates. Are teams stuck with their “3rd” uniforms, or limited in how long they can use them. This comment was made in the article/video about the probable Packers throwback.
    “Murphy said the team is now looking to have something that it can use for several years, but there are NFL rules.
    “You can have a third jersey, whether it’s a different color or a historical throwback, and you have a 5-year window. Those are some of the details we really need to work out,” said Murphy.” link

    NFL regs require a team to have only one alternate at a time. That can be either an alternate jersey in the team’s existing color palette or a full-on throwback uniform (exceptions were made for the AFL anniversary last year so teams could do both home and road throwbacks).

    Once a team adopts an alt, they have to keep it for five years. That means the Bucs, having introduced their throwback creamsicles in 2009, cannot introduce a black alt until 2014 at the earliest.

    Now, what we don’t know is to what extent teams are obligated to wear their existing alternates during the 5-year period.

    [quote comment=”379147″][quote comment=”379144″][quote comment=”379141″]For the heck of it…
    Jayson Stark’s trivia question from this a.m….

    Only five managers in MLB history have managed the same team for 20 seasons or more.

    Name them.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well, Bobby Cox, obviously. And Connie Mack. John McGraw with the Giants. But I can’t think of the other two. Did Tommy Lasorda make it to 20?[/quote]

    Yes.
    And Connie Mack was the one Greenie missed.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Okay, that’s four. But who’s the fifth? That’s really going to bother me.

    [quote comment=”379149″]
    Okay, that’s four. But who’s the fifth? That’s really going to bother me.[/quote]

    who was before tommy?

    [quote comment=”379115″][quote comment=”379112″]The US Men’s Curlers are also wearing the Nike swoosh on their left legs, but down just below the knee link

    that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]

    God, those are beauties! Excellent find, Phil. I like your “Skip Lukas,” too.

    [quote comment=”379138″][quote comment=”379134″][quote comment=”379124″]I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?[/quote]

    Considering it’s no longer the anniversary (or, more properly, the “50th season” for those teams), I would think it unlikely. Throwbacks may very well continue to be part of various NFL teams’ uniform sets in 2010, we’ll have to wait and see. But no one knows at the moment.

    In other news, anyone who spent any time in Indianapolis in the time period of that video clip is cringing at seeing Mark Patrick again.[/quote]

    I think it’s safe to assume that the Jets and Bills will probably use theirs again, since they’d been using them prior to last year as well. Beyond that, I’d say it’s rather doubtful for any of the other teams.[/quote]
    I would guess the Patriots will use their throwback as their 3rd jersey.

    [quote comment=”379154″][quote comment=”379138″][quote comment=”379134″][quote comment=”379124″]I’ve come here for a uni answer. I wonder if the AFL teams of the NFL are going to be sporting their anniversary uniforms for this season..?[/quote]

    Considering it’s no longer the anniversary (or, more properly, the “50th season” for those teams), I would think it unlikely. Throwbacks may very well continue to be part of various NFL teams’ uniform sets in 2010, we’ll have to wait and see. But no one knows at the moment.

    In other news, anyone who spent any time in Indianapolis in the time period of that video clip is cringing at seeing Mark Patrick again.[/quote]

    I think it’s safe to assume that the Jets and Bills will probably use theirs again, since they’d been using them prior to last year as well. Beyond that, I’d say it’s rather doubtful for any of the other teams.[/quote]
    I would guess the Patriots will use their throwback as their 3rd jersey.[/quote]

    Is the Silver still technically on the table as their third? Maybe not, have they worn it in the past five years?

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”379155″]

    Is the Silver still technically on the table as their third? Maybe not, have they worn it in the past five years?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    i don’t think they’ve worn it since 2006, but they FIRST wore it in 2003, which means it’s had its five year run and they can wear the throwback as their third, if they have put in the paperwork

    [quote comment=”379148″][quote comment=”379146″]Question about NFL throwbacks/alternates. Are teams stuck with their “3rd” uniforms, or limited in how long they can use them. This comment was made in the article/video about the probable Packers throwback.
    “Murphy said the team is now looking to have something that it can use for several years, but there are NFL rules.
    “You can have a third jersey, whether it’s a different color or a historical throwback, and you have a 5-year window. Those are some of the details we really need to work out,” said Murphy.” link

    NFL regs require a team to have only one alternate at a time. That can be either an alternate jersey in the team’s existing color palette or a full-on throwback uniform (exceptions were made for the AFL anniversary last year so teams could do both home and road throwbacks).

    Once a team adopts an alt, they have to keep it for five years. That means the Bucs, having introduced their throwback creamsicles in 2009, cannot introduce a black alt until 2014 at the earliest.

    Now, what we don’t know is to what extent teams are obligated to wear their existing alternates during the 5-year period.[/quote]
    Any idea how long the rule has been in effect? Because I wonder if it is a “floating” window, since the Packers had their Thanksgiving throwbacks in ’01 & ’03, and of course the 75th Anniversary one (well “one’s” since it was colors and whites) in ’94

    I believe the rule dates back to 2006, although don’t quote me on that.

    The Packers’ throwbacks in 1994 and 2001 were well before then, and even the 2003 Thanksgiving throwback is outside of this window.

    [quote comment=”379157″][quote comment=”379148″][quote comment=”379146″]Question about NFL throwbacks/alternates. Are teams stuck with their “3rd” uniforms, or limited in how long they can use them. This comment was made in the article/video about the probable Packers throwback.
    “Murphy said the team is now looking to have something that it can use for several years, but there are NFL rules.
    “You can have a third jersey, whether it’s a different color or a historical throwback, and you have a 5-year window. Those are some of the details we really need to work out,” said Murphy.” link

    NFL regs require a team to have only one alternate at a time. That can be either an alternate jersey in the team’s existing color palette or a full-on throwback uniform (exceptions were made for the AFL anniversary last year so teams could do both home and road throwbacks).

    Once a team adopts an alt, they have to keep it for five years. That means the Bucs, having introduced their throwback creamsicles in 2009, cannot introduce a black alt until 2014 at the earliest.

    Now, what we don’t know is to what extent teams are obligated to wear their existing alternates during the 5-year period.[/quote]
    Any idea how long the rule has been in effect? Because I wonder if it is a “floating” window, since the Packers had their Thanksgiving throwbacks in ’01 & ’03, and of course the 75th Anniversary one (well “one’s” since it was colors and whites) in ’94[/quote]
    Wait. I could have sworn the black Philadelphia Eagles jerseys took a one year sabbatical to make way for the Angry Parakeet anniversary pastels. Which makes this either an exception, or a dimension of alternate rules we have forgotten about.

    [quote comment=”379156″][quote comment=”379155″]

    Is the Silver still technically on the table as their third? Maybe not, have they worn it in the past five years?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    i don’t think they’ve worn it since 2006, but they FIRST wore it in 2003, which means it’s had its five year run and they can wear the throwback as their third, if they have put in the paperwork[/quote]

    I hope so. The silver alt was the dumbest thing. Most of the Pats fans I know couldn’t even tell the difference. They said I was crazy and the lighting in the stadium was weird that day.

    I think the white jersey the Colts wore in 1954 had blue Northwestern stripes on the sleeves. I hope they wear that instead of simply recyling the blue \”three-stripe\” jersey from the 1956 throwback.

    [quote comment=”379159″][quote comment=”379157″][quote comment=”379148″][quote comment=”379146″]Question about NFL throwbacks/alternates. Are teams stuck with their “3rd” uniforms, or limited in how long they can use them. This comment was made in the article/video about the probable Packers throwback.
    “Murphy said the team is now looking to have something that it can use for several years, but there are NFL rules.
    “You can have a third jersey, whether it’s a different color or a historical throwback, and you have a 5-year window. Those are some of the details we really need to work out,” said Murphy.” link

    NFL regs require a team to have only one alternate at a time. That can be either an alternate jersey in the team’s existing color palette or a full-on throwback uniform (exceptions were made for the AFL anniversary last year so teams could do both home and road throwbacks).

    Once a team adopts an alt, they have to keep it for five years. That means the Bucs, having introduced their throwback creamsicles in 2009, cannot introduce a black alt until 2014 at the earliest.

    Now, what we don’t know is to what extent teams are obligated to wear their existing alternates during the 5-year period.[/quote]
    Any idea how long the rule has been in effect? Because I wonder if it is a “floating” window, since the Packers had their Thanksgiving throwbacks in ’01 & ’03, and of course the 75th Anniversary one (well “one’s” since it was colors and whites) in ’94[/quote]
    Wait. I could have sworn the black Philadelphia Eagles jerseys took a one year sabbatical to make way for the Angry Parakeet anniversary pastels. Which makes this either an exception, or a dimension of alternate rules we have forgotten about.[/quote]
    Maybe it was 2007? We don’t know exactly when it was enacted.

    We can presume that it’s a relatively recent rule (I hadn’t heard about it until the Bucs’ change last season).

    [quote comment=”379162″]I think the white jersey the Colts wore in 1954 had blue Northwestern stripes on the sleeves. I hope they wear that instead of simply recyling the blue \”three-stripe\” jersey from the 1956 throwback.[/quote]

    the blue jersey had northwestern stripes…but the white always had three equidistant stripes

    timmy b & ricko helped provide a great colts (and saints) uni chronology bit for the super bowl

    Alas, the logo on the Pittsburgh Steelers airplane is on the wrong side of the tail…or, presuming it’s on both sides, shoudn’t be on the left side.

    [quote comment=”379165″]Alas, the logo on the Pittsburgh Steelers airplane is on the wrong side of the tail…or, presuming it’s on both sides, shoudn’t be on the left side.[/quote]

    I’ll give them a pass on that one … if the entire plane resembled a helmet, I’d feel different, but since they’re obviously looking at cross marketing, the Steelers colors without the logo would only be meaningful to … well … us.

    My favorite of this group is the Cardinals. All the others seem like lazy “put a couple stripes together and slap the logo on” treatments, where the Cardinals’ plane gives the illusion of an actual flying bird.

    [quote comment=”379156″][quote comment=”379155″]

    Is the Silver still technically on the table as their third? Maybe not, have they worn it in the past five years?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    i don’t think they’ve worn it since 2006, but they FIRST wore it in 2003, which means it’s had its five year run and they can wear the throwback as their third, if they have put in the paperwork[/quote]
    Last I recall it’s still listed as their 3rd, but they haven’t worn it in quite some time, ’06 sounds right. I know Paul mentioned it yesterday about 3rd jerseys, but I want to say there was some banter here about them bringing Pat Patriot back for good as the 3rd. Maybe a year ago?

    [quote comment=”379166″][quote comment=”379165″]Alas, the logo on the Pittsburgh Steelers airplane is on the wrong side of the tail…or, presuming it’s on both sides, shoudn’t be on the left side.[/quote]

    I’ll give them a pass on that one … if the entire plane resembled a helmet, I’d feel different, but since they’re obviously looking at cross marketing, the Steelers colors without the logo would only be meaningful to … well … us.

    My favorite of this group is the Cardinals. All the others seem like lazy “put a couple stripes together and slap the logo on” treatments, where the Cardinals’ plane gives the illusion of an actual flying bird.[/quote]

    I really dig what Alaska Airlines did with the Seahawks livery back in the day:
    link

    I. Would. Wear. That. Colts. Uni! Wow, that was good.

    1993 would have been a great time to unveil that look. The Colts were still somewhat new in Indy and they stunk. It wasn’t until ’95 that they had a shot at the Super Bowl. If the team never left Baltimore I’d say thanks, but no. With the team in Indy I say yes.

    Well, even if they were still in Baltimore, I might say use the horsey helmet but keep the rest of the classic look.

    Don’t be so hard on yourself, Randy Miller – you did a great job. Wanna take on some other teams’ current unis?

    “Can’t believe that the Dodgers had two managers in the space of 42 years.”
    Connie Mack managed the A’s from 1901 – 1950. That’s FIFTY SEASONS under ONE manager! Now THAT’s longevity…

    OK, not really uni-related, but…
    It seems the San Fransisco Giants intend to actually hold their fans, upside-down, by the feet, and shake the remaining change from their pockets.
    “Giants make a dynamic move on ticket pricing”
    link

    [quote comment=”379174″]Paul has always said the best medal shouldn’t be gold. Apparently, he’s not the only one …

    link
    Apparently Plushenko needs a Snickers
    link

    Not complaining at all, but the finished product of that Topps Cito Gaston card link is something you wouldn’t have seen in 1979. One, they had the dreaded pillbox hats then, and two, they wore the black pillbox with the yellow jersey (something current management forgot during last year’s throwback game). If he was wearing a helmet, then they would have nailed the look.

    Had the Bucs gone with the Topps version, it would have been up there with the ’71 and ’60 unis as one of my favorites.

    [quote comment=”379172″]”Can’t believe that the Dodgers had two managers in the space of 42 years.”
    Connie Mack managed the A’s from 1901 – 1950. That’s FIFTY SEASONS under ONE manager! Now THAT’s longevity…[/quote]

    Well Connie Mack is the real exception to the rule about longevity… I mean he owned the damn team in most of those 50 years…

    Pretty cool hockey blog/store I found recently – I sent a note to Paul, but here is the link for anyone interested. Really like the hat with skate laces and the olympic hockey themed shirt.

    link

    [quote comment=”379176″]Not complaining at all, but the finished product of that Topps Cito Gaston card link is something you wouldn’t have seen in 1979. One, they had the dreaded pillbox hats then, and two, they wore the black pillbox with the yellow jersey (something current management forgot during last year’s throwback game). If he was wearing a helmet, then they would have nailed the look.

    Had the Bucs gone with the Topps version, it would have been up there with the ’71 and ’60 unis as one of my favorites.[/quote]

    ’79 Bucs: link

    2009 throwbacks:
    Oops, part one: link
    Oops, part two: link

    [quote comment=”379166″][quote comment=”379165″]Alas, the logo on the Pittsburgh Steelers airplane is on the wrong side of the tail…or, presuming it’s on both sides, shoudn’t be on the left side.[/quote]

    I’ll give them a pass on that one … if the entire plane resembled a helmet, I’d feel different, but since they’re obviously looking at cross marketing, the Steelers colors without the logo would only be meaningful to … well … us.

    My favorite of this group is the Cardinals. All the others seem like lazy “put a couple stripes together and slap the logo on” treatments, where the Cardinals’ plane gives the illusion of an actual flying bird.[/quote]

    I know…and halfheartedly agree with you…but this is what we do! LOL

    [quote comment=”379176″]Not complaining at all, but the finished product of that Topps Cito Gaston card link is something you wouldn’t have seen in 1979. One, they had the dreaded pillbox hats then, and two, they wore the black pillbox with the yellow jersey (something current management forgot during last year’s throwback game). If he was wearing a helmet, then they would have nailed the look.

    Had the Bucs gone with the Topps version, it would have been up there with the ’71 and ’60 unis as one of my favorites.[/quote]

    That’s weird. Cito Gaston retired after the 1978 season, but he still had a 1979 card? (I’m not questioning this, I just looked at the Topps list for 1979 and the card is legitimate, just a little baffled.)

    And he played for the Pirates in 1978, if Topps was doing a 1979 card why did they need to airbrush a Braves photo?

    [quote comment=”379179″][quote comment=”379176″]Not complaining at all, but the finished product of that Topps Cito Gaston card link is something you wouldn’t have seen in 1979. One, they had the dreaded pillbox hats then, and two, they wore the black pillbox with the yellow jersey (something current management forgot during last year’s throwback game). If he was wearing a helmet, then they would have nailed the look.

    Had the Bucs gone with the Topps version, it would have been up there with the ’71 and ’60 unis as one of my favorites.[/quote]

    ’79 Bucs: link

    2009 throwbacks:
    Oops, part one: link
    Oops, part two: link
    Wow. For the first time ever, I will say: I wish they didn’t bother. The modern tailoring just KILLS that look. The Pirates look like lost NFL referees in the cold with those long black pants. Very underwhelming.

    [quote comment=”379170″]I. Would. Wear. That. Colts. Uni! Wow, that was good.

    1993 would have been a great time to unveil that look. The Colts were still somewhat new in Indy and they stunk. It wasn’t until ’95 that they had a shot at the Super Bowl. [/quote]

    And they came kinda out of nowhere in ’95.

    In 1991, they had gone 1-15. In 1992, Ted Marchibroda got them to 9-7, a bit turnaround. In 1993, there was a lot of optimism, but they fell on their faces (that might have been the year Jeff George held out, didn’t say why, and was a general turd). 1994 they were fair to middling, I think, but in 1995, Jim Harbaugh led them to a bunch of comeback wins and things were really exciting. That is, in fact, when they tried out the blue pants. Really, they didn’t look as good as one might think.

    I think it’s great that the Colts are honoring Baltimore with a 1954 throwback with a blue helmet.

    In related news, the Ravens will be wearing the CB logo Browns helmet and uniform as a throwback this year.

    ***Don’t be so hard on yourself, Randy Miller — you did a great job. Wanna take on some other teams’ current unis?***

    Thanks for the positive comments… I wasn’t trying to be down on myself, I just a have different taste in uniform design now, than I did 17 years ago. Thanks again.

    Also in the clip, if you listen carefully, someone off stage LAUGHS when Mark Patrick says “using Jeff George as an example”

    Jeff George was used for ONE simple reason: 1’s are EASY TO DRAW!!!

    LOL

    [quote comment=”379110″]That ’62 KC hat is sweet. Love the gray and red.[/quote]

    I DIYed one of those 15-16 years ago. Turned out not half-bad…for a hack seamstress such as myself. Last time I checked, I think the dang red button had popped off.

    ’62 was only year they wore that hat.
    link
    On the road it (with red sleeves and stirrups) alternated with the navy home hat (with navy sleeves and stirrups).
    link
    Saw them play a doubleheader at the Met in ’62, especially to see them wear both versions, one in each game…and the did.

    At home they wore the navy (red visor) hat all the time. Navy sleeves and stirrups one game, red sleeves and stirrups the next. No matter what anyone tries to tell you, there was NO white-crown version of that hat.

    (And, yes, the John Wyatt card is from ’64. In ’63, of course, the gold and green A’s came in. That’s just an example of how less-than-fussy Topps still was at the time.)

    —Ricko

    Maybe it’s been called out already (and I apologize if this is a retread), but I noticed that in all the images of Tom Dempsey, he isn’t wearing a chin strap.

    [quote comment=”379141″]For the heck of it…
    Jayson Stark’s trivia question from this a.m….

    Only five managers in MLB history have managed the same team for 20 seasons or more.

    Name them.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Since we’re on trivia. This question was posed on the local sports radio show here. What city or cities have had two professional franchises with the same head coach spanning an entire decade (e.g. 1960-69)?

    [quote comment=”379168″]Some great old Yankee uni shots:
    link
    There is some nice stuff there.

    But I looked at the site of the group that put it together, and they deserve a plug.

    link

    NYC members (and historical preservationists) Should take a look, and perhaps help them out. Seems like a pretty worthy goal to me.

    They’re currently taking down the concrete slabs around Wrigley Field to “open up” the ballpark. I wonder what that’s going to do to wind conditions on the field in 2010.

    link

    [quote comment=”379133″]I think an interview with someone who executed Topps airbrush art in the ’70’s would be illuminating.[/quote]

    Some were worse than others, which makes them useless for IDing equipment. They would not only airbrush out the decals and screw up the colors, yet, all the other subtle details; rivets, vent holes, chin strap snaps, etc. I guess it’s still better than relying on illustrations?

    [quote comment=”379185″]I think it’s great that the Colts are honoring Baltimore with a 1954 throwback with a blue helmet.

    In related news, the Ravens will be wearing the CB logo Browns helmet and uniform as a throwback this year.[/quote]

    Good one!

    About those planes with the NFL team markings, I wonder if the Steelers logo is on only one side of the plane?

    Not exactly an olympic DIYer, but when you have to wax your own skis and fix your own uni, close enough:
    link

    Can’t believe the US ski team doesn’t support the jumpers. Time for another Stephen Colbert-type person to step up and help this kid.

    Did any UW readers make it up to Syracuse, NY on Saturday for the first outdoor AHL game between Syracuse and Binghamton?

    If so, please contact me. I’d like to get your thoughts on the game, atmosphere, etc.

    [quote comment=”379164″][quote comment=”379162″]I think the white jersey the Colts wore in 1954 had blue Northwestern stripes on the sleeves. I hope they wear that instead of simply recyling the blue \”three-stripe\” jersey from the 1956 throwback.[/quote]

    the blue jersey had link…but the white always had link

    timmy b & ricko helped provide a great colts (and saints) uni chronology bit link[/quote]

    Quoting that very article: “1953 – The jerseys were rather generic; white had blue front/back numerals with blue NW sleeve stripes, while the blue jersey had white front/back numerals with white NW stripes.”

    “1954 – The 1953 white jersey stayed the same, but the blue jersey had a stripe tweak to 3 even sized white stripes.”

    “1955 – White jersey sleeve stripes changed to match the style on the blue jerseys.”

    So there. :-) But, I will point out that the photo links in that portion of the article do not support the text, so I compared the quotes to Tim’s ‘Pro Football Uniform History’ article (link on the right, near the top) and it also says the 1954 whites had blue NW stripes and the blues had three white stripes on the sleeves.

    Seeing what the Colts are doing makes me even angrier about 1994, when they “threw back” to 1958 by using their regular ’94 unis. (This was against the Steelers, who wore the 1933 throwbacks.)

    andy…my bad

    1953 definitely had northwest stripes on the white…but i was fairly certain the northwest stripes went out with the new blue horseshoe helmets…

    now im not so certain…perhaps the change was made during the season…lotsa stuff then was done midyear

    Hey Andy,

    Check in with me if you please on the 1954 Colts look. You can reach Paul or LIPhil for my email addy.

    We’ll get ‘er sorted out.

    Thanks in advance.

    Speaking of sausage….

    Swung by Honey 1 BBQ on N. Western Avenue today…. that sausage was fierce!

    ‘the smoke is NO joke’….. indeed. :)

    [quote comment=”379115″][quote comment=”379112″]The US Men’s Curlers are also wearing the Nike swoosh on their left legs, but down just below the knee link

    that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]
    These guys look as if they should be wearing kilts… now, THERE’S a curling look to strive for.

    [quote comment=”379121″][quote comment=”379119″]Can someone explain to me why JOE D was wearing a PHILTHY-delphia A’s uni in that picture with Campy and all them all stars in Dodger Stadium in 1970? (With is his Number no less!) I assume it would be b/c he was a SF Seal and the A’s were new in his hometown?[/quote]

    joe dimaggio was the OAKLAND a’s executive VP and coach from 1968-69

    remember this link which appears on UW from time to time?

    you might recognize some of the players with him: john donaldson, reggie, rick monday, sal bando and joe rudi[/quote]
    that is a beautiful snap! Rick Monday was an A???? WFT?!?!?

    [quote comment=”379125″]WooHoo for Curling!

    I told you that you would have a great time. Plainfield is a great group of people. They are the self-proclaimed “Delta House of Curling”

    I will be there, in mid-April, for the BON-SQUEAL!
    link
    Tossing rocks and pig??? It’s just a short drive from Mountainside, NJ. Sweeeet.

    [quote comment=”379195″][quote comment=”379133″]I think an interview with someone who executed Topps airbrush art in the ’70’s would be illuminating.[/quote]

    Some were worse than others, which makes them useless for IDing equipment. They would not only airbrush out the decals and screw up the colors, yet, all the other subtle details; rivets, vent holes, chin strap snaps, etc. I guess it’s still better than relying on illustrations?[/quote]

    I know. They were so bad that they were good, you know?

    Whenever a new airbrush job appeared in a pack it was a field day for kids….like us. We were befuddled and amused and outraged and got to feel a little superior to the big card company. :)

    anyone else find it odd that Lundqvist’s mask has a reference to the USA (or France) with the Statue of Liberty

    link

    Watching the K-State – Texas Tech game, and TT has NNOB, but “Red Raiders.” Has it been this way all season? Sorry, no screen grabs.

    [quote comment=”379216″]anyone else find it odd that Lundqvist’s mask has a reference to the USA (or France) with the Statue of Liberty

    link
    It’s not that weird. It’s a reference to his pro team, the New York Rangers.

    [quote comment=”379190″]did tebow sign a contract with Under Armour? He is covered head to toe with UA

    link

    Don’t know if he signed an individual contract, but I am pretty sure the NFL Combine is “sponsored” by Under Armour. I could be wrong though.

    I find those greyhound silks to be interesting. I still have the muzzle for Adam, our rescued greyhound. They gave it to us when we adopted him. I’m fascinated by it, but I’ll never let him see it. He is honestly haunted by it. Those dogs get hosed. Big time. The only reason why Adam is pretty well adjusted is because he won a lot.
    You should meet one that didn’t.

    [quote comment=”379210″][quote comment=”379115″]that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]
    These guys look as if they should be wearing kilts… now, THERE’S a curling look to strive for.[/quote]

    If worn the traditional way, that’s not something a guy should try – wouldn’t want to have your other stones that close to the ice unprotected…

    [quote comment=”379219″][quote comment=”379190″]did tebow sign a contract with Under Armour? He is covered head to toe with UA

    link

    Don’t know if he signed an individual contract, but I am pretty sure the NFL Combine is “sponsored” by Under Armour. I could be wrong though.[/quote]

    The Senior Bowl unis were made by UA. Tebow had about ten different UA logos on various parts of himself. Don’t know about the combine.

    [quote comment=”379221″][quote comment=”379210″][quote comment=”379115″]that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]
    These guys look as if they should be wearing kilts… now, THERE’S a curling look to strive for.[/quote]

    If worn the traditional way, that’s not something a guy should try – wouldn’t want to have your other stones that close to the ice unprotected…[/quote]

    you sound like you’ve worn one

    you have, haven’t you

    [quote comment=”379223″][quote comment=”379221″][quote comment=”379210″][quote comment=”379115″]that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]
    These guys look as if they should be wearing kilts… now, THERE’S a curling look to strive for.[/quote]

    If worn the traditional way, that’s not something a guy should try – wouldn’t want to have your other stones that close to the ice unprotected…[/quote]

    you sound like you’ve worn one

    you have, haven’t you[/quote]

    Now does Vilk sound like a Scottish name, lad?

    [quote comment=”379224″][quote comment=”379223″][quote comment=”379221″][quote comment=”379210″][quote comment=”379115″]that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]
    These guys look as if they should be wearing kilts… now, THERE’S a curling look to strive for.[/quote]

    If worn the traditional way, that’s not something a guy should try – wouldn’t want to have your other stones that close to the ice unprotected…[/quote]

    you sound like you’ve worn one

    you have, haven’t you[/quote]

    Now does Vilk sound like a Scottish name, lad?[/quote]

    OK, all this kilt talk is bring back visions I had bannished from my mind. Last year one of the bowler on our league wore a kilt on St. Patrick’s day (Yes, the traditional way). Bad visions. Bad, Bad I say.

    Was Providence doing a blackout thing against Syracuse tonight? It looked like Halloween on the court.

    [quote comment=”379224″][quote comment=”379223″][quote comment=”379221″][quote comment=”379210″][quote comment=”379115″]that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]
    These guys look as if they should be wearing kilts… now, THERE’S a curling look to strive for.[/quote]

    If worn the traditional way, that’s not something a guy should try – wouldn’t want to have your other stones that close to the ice unprotected…[/quote]

    you sound like you’ve worn one

    you have, haven’t you[/quote]

    Now does Vilk sound like a Scottish name, lad?[/quote]

    im not sure you answered my question

    [quote comment=”379226″]I am the only one who thinks that the Canadian ski cross participants look like their wearing pajamas?

    link

    Yes – the Canadian skicross stuff looks like pajamas.

    Your link goes to the first photo in the set, which is the French team dressed as mexican wrestlers. That’s actually more intriguing, and is probably the correct headgear for skicross.

    [quote comment=”379229″][quote comment=”379224″][quote comment=”379223″][quote comment=”379221″][quote comment=”379210″][quote comment=”379115″]that’ll all change in 2014 when skip lukas outfits the team in link[/quote]
    These guys look as if they should be wearing kilts… now, THERE’S a curling look to strive for.[/quote]

    If worn the traditional way, that’s not something a guy should try – wouldn’t want to have your other stones that close to the ice unprotected…[/quote]

    you sound like you’ve worn one

    you have, haven’t you[/quote]

    Now does Vilk sound like a Scottish name, lad?[/quote]

    im not sure you answered my question[/quote]
    Too much info gents. It’s cold enough just having to endure winter without thinking of what could happen on ice…

    [quote comment=”379194″]They’re currently taking down the concrete slabs around Wrigley Field to “open up” the ballpark. I wonder what that’s going to do to wind conditions on the field in 2010.

    link
    …and for the record, the taking down of the panels from Wrigley is the first time in the history of the park that concrete was intentionally removed before falling from the superstructure.

    I wonder what the most interesting sports nameplate is …

    Marty Schottenheimer

    Jared Saltalamacchia

    Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink

    or

    Mats Zuccarello Aasen

    Not sure if anyone’s pointed this out yet, but it definitely showcases the lack of funding for US Curling: the women are link.

    Those appear to be simply link.

    Randy Miller was one of my best friends in college. We used to stay up late talking uniforms, and before UniWatch, he and our buddy Geoff were my only outlets for this stuff.

    Randy had told me about these uni’s a few times, but never brought the tape up to school, so his verbal description was all I had to go on. After all these years, I must admit I’m amazed how nice the mock-ups he sent in were. Keep in mind, he didn’t have photoshop or illustrator at his disposal.

    The first year we hung out was the fall of 2000, and I remember one night we got to talking about which NFL teams needed a rebranding. Our choices… the Broncos and Bucs. I can still see Randy’s face when he came running into my room when the Broncos introduced their new look. When the Bucs followed suite a month or so later, we were pretty proud of our predictions.

    Randy and I still keep in touch… and did so even before Facebook. But I must admit that we still don’t talk much about work, family, or anything else. Still mainly uniforms, and of course, the Colts. Great to see him get recognized today.

    After all this reminiscing, I’m in the mood for some Tecmo SB III.

    Kyle, dude, I think you mis-typed, we hung out well before 2000, like in 1995 man. By 2000 the Broncos had already won 2 superbowls in their new uniforms. Just clarifying in case someone gets confused. Thanks for the nice comments!!!

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